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changed username to WBurnside Guy B.: Well, WB, seems we are the first two here. WBurnside: Hello Guy B. Guy B.: I was reading my e-mail until the window popped open with someone entering. WBurnside: I was helping my daughter with her mathematics Guy B.: Which kind of math? WBurnside: percentages Guy B.: Those and fractions were always the toughest for me. WBurnside: The problem is that certain percentages work better if you convert them to fractions like 33 1/3% to 1/3 WBurnside: She has not quite caught on to that concept. Guy B.: That's true. WBurnside: I have to leave for a moment. My wife wants to use the computer.
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changed username to BobSlopsema BobSlopsema: hey dude!!! Guy B.: Bob, you missed WB a little while ago. BobSlopsema: got here late.....and all the others left because I smell soapy ????? BobSlopsema: Hd stuff to do son...... Guy B.: What happened? BobSlopsema: how's Wille anywhay??? Guy B.: He's doing Ok. He might be back, wife needs the computer. BobSlopsema: credit card problems with Mandy..........DUMB youg kids BobSlopsema: I think his wife believes we are all beautiful women strying to chat with her man........... Guy B.: Overdid it again. I bet she knows what can happen. BobSlopsema: course.........naw!!! that ain't right! BobSlopsema: no, that is thre strange part, Mandy just seems to put her head in the sand like the problem will go away BobSlopsema: she got burned a year ago, moved home and cleaned up her mess.... BobSlopsema: then started over, got $500 in debt and ignored it and then 7 months later it is a $1000 debt..... Guy B.: How hard were you to her? BobSlopsema: hey, she has to pay it, I'm not........ Guy B.: She's working? BobSlopsema: she pregnant, sigle, temp job, in debt to phone, cable, credit card, and lord knows who else....what can I do to her???? Guy B.: Boy, you're right, she's in a BIG mess. BobSlopsema: I think she swallowed a DUMB pill or something BobSlopsema: plus she owed us about $2500 unitl we said no more!! under no circumstances Guy B.: Becoming pregnant is going to make a whole lot worse. BobSlopsema: she is working full time nowm, living at home for now.....and whittling down the debts BobSlopsema: but who knows????? BobSlopsema: she is liable to take off again and pull the same stupid stunts all over again Guy B.: How old is she now> BobSlopsema: and she is not the only one out there....WHAT the HECK is happening to these young kids????? BobSlopsema: be 21 in Nov 25th Guy B.: Boy, she's not even ready for what's lying ahead. BobSlopsema: that's the truth Guy B.: The problem is that today's generation think they are ready and they are not. At least we were smart and took things at a time. BobSlopsema: well, at least we didn't make a mess of life the way they are doing! BobSlopsema: of course, whenb Judy and I got married, we had a hard time getting $200 credit at Sears Roebuck!!! Now there are 20 different Guy B.: Agree with that. Some do know better. BobSlopsema: credit card companies lined up to take these kids to the cleaners BobSlopsema: and they are bankrupting america! Guy B.: I didn't get my first credit card until I started working fulltime. The problem is the credit card companies are greedy. Guy B.: And still are doing it at the colleges. BobSlopsema: "got credit problems????let us HELP by taking your house exuity aways from you and giving you a fresh start to start charging on BobSlopsema: your credit cards all over again" so sasys the ad for the credit card BobSlopsema: these kids shouldn't have anything over $100 or $200 until they PROVE they can handle it Guy B.: That's what got Jeanene and I in trouble. But, I'm finally got things under control and it's alot better for me now. Jeanene??? BobSlopsema: I wonder just how many of these young kids stick the credit card companies with their bad debts, I bet is a large number Guy B.: Could be alot. BobSlopsema: Jeanene still under the 8 ball with credit??? BobSlopsema: how is she doing anyway????? BobSlopsema: just remember....IF you want to play;....you GOTTA PAY!!!!! Guy B.: Well, the problem with her was her car payments. She was paying over $300 a month and since she's on disability she couldn't keep up. She redid the loan and added an extra year and got it under $200. Her back is not doing too good. BobSlopsema: gotta get a cheaper car then..........needs an operation??? didn't she have on e not too long ago?? Guy B.: Her credit is really messed up. Still has the same car '97 Cavalier. Trying a new different back therapy. BobSlopsema: back problems is NO picnic, I can sympathize with her; just a sore back is troublesome Guy B.: Hers involves her spine. BobSlopsema: youch! Guy B.: I get them too. I use a seat cushion at work since the chair I have is not very confortable. Guy B.: An MRI revealed a pretruding bone. It seems some parts of her spine are out of whack let's say.
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changed username to Mr Jive Mr Jive: Woohoo finally made it! Guy B.: She was standing up and Home Depot where she worked wouldn't let her have a chair to sit on. Guy B.: Hey, Mr. Jive what's going on with you? BobSlopsema: finally?????....as in like you could NOT get hooked up here???? Me and ol' guy were lonesome!!!! Mr Jive: Good news I got my Adam that I bought on ebay...... Guy B.: Did you try it out?
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changed username to Dale Mr Jive: lol Mr Jive: Haven't tried it yet I'm waiting for the glue to dry. Guy B.: Hi Dale. Finally getting everyone. I was the first one here tonight. BobSlopsema: oh, oh.......what happened to it Mr Jive: Hi Dale Guy B.: Lost Dale. Mr Jive: Six keys got busted off the keyboard and all the tabs on top of the printer. Guy B.: Oh boy, looks like the seller must have a done a lousy job of packing the system. BobSlopsema: printer tabs ara a given, and super glue works great on the keys Mr Jive: It was filthy too but I disassembled/cleaned/reassembled it. BobSlopsema: I have found that sellers by and large are LOUSY packers
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changed username to Dale BobSlopsema: 2 pieces of flat newspaper do NOT count as packing...... Dale: Hi all Guy B.: Dale's back. Mr Jive: I hope this doesn't happen to my ham gear I bought. BobSlopsema: welcome back ya'll!!!!!!! Dale: Sorry I'm late. Mr Jive: Hi again Dale BobSlopsema: an, an, an you done missed last week didn't ya?????? Guy B.: Just for the record, I was the first one here and sat for almost 20 minutes until WB came on. Dale: I was sick all last week, so I didn't make it then either. Mr Jive: Me too I'm bad :( Guy B.: How are you now Dale? Dale: I'm finally better. I had stomach cramps and basically couldn't eat for a week. Guy B.: You had the stomach flu, eh? Mr Jive: Wow did you loose much weight? Dale: A bit. It is a kind of shock diet. Guy B.: Did Jill get it? Mr Jive: I have a few extra pounds if you need them :) Dale: But that's okay. I don't exercise enough lately, so I could use to be thinner. Dale: She got it this week. So she's still not completely better. Dale: A quiet chat tonight? I haven't posted a reminder for a couple of weeks. Guy B.: Watch that very carefully, you can dehydrate very fast. Be sure she gets enough water. BobSlopsema: don't want it , even IF it helps lose some wight!!!! Dale: I will. Guy B.: Well, here in the US got the second presidential debate tonight. Also, the Cardinals, Mets game is on too. BobSlopsema: weight Dale: I see. Dale: Well, I guess I should get a discussion going on the mailing list. Dale: I've been working with Scott lately. Was he here last week? Guy B.: Well, what have got in mind? Dale: Well, one thing that Ron and I have been talking about is making an Adam wish list. Guy B.: What we like to see in additional stuff for the Adam? BobSlopsema: don't think he came last week Guy B.: Scott wasn't here last week, but Ron was. BobSlopsema: exchanged emailwith him but that's all Dale: Yes, like hardware and software. BobSlopsema: web browser, text only probably, but faster than ie or netscape Guy B.: More hard drives for the Adam. Regardless of size. BobSlopsema: ya dat too Guy B.: How about we get the floppy drives back too. Mr Jive: Incredible....I was checking out ebay's listing for coleco stuff....some game cartridges are selling for more than my Adam I bought. Mr Jive: I saw a colecovision and ten games sell for over $120.... BobSlopsema: actually, the hd's AND disk drives could probably come from the same controller card couldn't they???? BobSlopsema: and not worry about straight adamnet plug in
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changed username to james BobSlopsema: DEFINE your own self!!!!! BobSlopsema: hi James! james: morning all :) Guy B.: Hi James, how's things in Japan? Mr Jive: Hi james james: as of yesterday, they were nice and warm. 27 and sunny :D Dale: Hi James. james: hey mr. jive, hey dale. long time no see :) Guy B.: Got fall weather here in Chicago. But finally made it in what it should be at this time of year. james: today it's cool, foggy and rainy. ron would feel quite at home i bet. Guy B.: He sure would. BobSlopsema: yUCK!!! sounds depressing Guy Guy B.: Bob, isn't it alot better by you? 60's james: got my package from rich a few days ago. i'm now the proud owner of a disk drive and some manuals, a 64k expansion card and some new software :) Dale: Well, I'd be in favour of an AdamNET ZIP disk drive. Guy B.: After all it was in the 40's last weekend. Guy B.: I like that idea Dale. BobSlopsema: heck make an interface card to access all the stuff BobSlopsema: OR make it adamnet compatible with a software program plug-in Guy B.: And you get Zip disks in packs of 10 for between $70-80. And they hold 100mb. Mr Jive: Better than a hard drive for the Adam. Guy B.: You can put alot of games and programs on one disk. TDOS on another.
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changed username to WBurnside Guy B.: Now the question is how much could this kind of drive cost? WBurnside: I am back!!! Guy B.: Welcome back, WB, we got nearly everyone. BobSlopsema: Hiya Willie!!!! WBurnside: BobS did you find those NIAD newsletters? WBurnside: Hi all!!! BobSlopsema: nope forgot...:-( shucks on me........I WILLL write anote right now!!! BobSlopsema: DONE! WBurnside: No problem! Thanks for looking! WBurnside: What kind of drive were you talking about? BobSlopsema: I think I got an extra set yet, have to look tomorrow night Guy B.: Dale is thinking of a Adam Zip drive using the 100mb Zip disks. WBurnside: Now that would be interesting! Dale: Well, you can buy an internal IDE ZIP drive for about $100US. Then ... BobSlopsema: ah, now you are clickin here....IDE eh???? Guy B.: He brought up the question of a wish list for the Adam. Tigerdirect.com has them for about $40. BobSlopsema: fits right in with the ide hd controller yes????? Mr Jive: test test test Dale: Right Guy. $100US is for the new 250mb drives.
(A dog howls in the distance) Dale: So, maybe we could do the IDE ZIP drives for a good price. Guy B.: That sounds really good. Now will be an external drive or could it be made an internal? Dale: I don't know how much it would cost for the AdamNET controller hardware, but not very much, I suspect. BobSlopsema: but only problem is got to have someone who knows hardware BobSlopsema: .....hmmmmm BobSlopsema: and can build it Guy B.: And there are not many left I assume , right? james: wish i knew more about hardware. sounds like an interesting project. james: yes, i've been lurking :) WBurnside: I think as a labor of love it would be a great product, but how many would you need to sell to cover development costs? Dale: You could develop it for very little capital outlay. Guy B.: Well, I'm going to finish my e-mail, but keep me informed of this project. I like the idea of it. See you all next week. WBurnside: bye Guy! james: buy guy :) BobSlopsema: question.....Dale! are there NOT parallel port zip drives??? and is so, could they be software accessed by ADAM thru an Orphanware paralle port??? BobSlopsema: see ya Guy!
Guy B. left chat session Dale: Rich Drushel has the info to do the AdamNET part. Mr Jive: I have a parallel port Zip drive. Dale: No! The Orphanware parallel port is not suitable. WBurnside: Why not? Dale: It cannot transmit both ways. WBurnside: Ahh! Mr Jive: yikes! BobSlopsema: well shoot!!!!! Dale: But the internal IDE controller is suitable. You'd just need an appropriate driver. BobSlopsema: was a great idea though....... Dale: But if we could get Rich D interested, we could do the AdamNET version. BobSlopsema: AND an ide controller which are in short supply nowadays Dale: If we actually run out, Scott could do another run of the IDE controllers. BobSlopsema: but would not the ADAMnet version make it imperitive to make an interface board from scratch to access the drive??? Dale: With the AdamNET version, it would be self-contained. And it could pretend to be disk drive 1 or 2. Dale: Chris Braymen has done this with an AdamNET ramdrive. Rich has complete plans. Dale: This could be a useful application of Chris Braymen's design.
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changed username to Alan Neeley james: hello mr. neeley :) Mr Jive: Hi Alan Dale: Hey Alan! Alan Neeley: Yo! WBurnside: Hello Alan! BobSlopsema: Alan!!! as I live and breath!!!! Alan Neeley: Hey Guys what's up? :) james: you are :) BobSlopsema: discussin' a zip drive for ADAM BobSlopsema: thru ChrisBrayman's adanet ramdrive
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changed username to Adamnewbie Alan Neeley: Good to see you all! I recognize others by name but others have me at a disadvantage! BobSlopsema: greeting's MR newbie......or miss?????? BobSlopsema: that's the way it is supposed to be Alan...... BobSlopsema: :-) Adamnewbie: Hi...My names Eric Karovic...just stopped by for a sec. Mr Jive: Hi Eric Dale: Hi Eric. james: morning eric WBurnside: Hello Eric! Alan Neeley: But am I really Alan? wanta test me? hehe... :) BobSlopsema: WBurnside is reacently joined us from Chicago, where he is trying to teach colleger kids an easier way - ADAM Adamnewbie: Hello all...nice to see the Adam alive and well BobSlopsema: see I told ya we'd be here Eric! Adamnewbie: that you did :) BobSlopsema: MR Jive......Doug, uh.......anyway, an adamite from way back Mr Jive: Way back! :) BobSlopsema: and Eric is a former ADAM owner I was jsut emailing with and he is DYING to get his hands on it again BobSlopsema: :-) Adamnewbie: Thats for sure...:) BobSlopsema: guys meet Alan Neeley of ADAMNET BBS fame and organizer extrodinair of ADAMCON 5 Mr Jive: Laying of hands on Adam.....raising it from the dead. BobSlopsema: in Utah, one I missed.....:-( james: alan, did you have any luck finding those manuals? Alan Neeley: Hi Everyone. Sooooo great to see things still going... Adamnewbie: How often do you have these chats? Dale: What have you been up to lately Alan? Alan Neeley: James: I found the intro to it in perfect shape. I'm looking for the follow ups you asked for. WBurnside: Every Wednesday! james: cool, thanks :) Dale: We have these chats every Wed night (morning in Japan). james: :D BobSlopsema: at 9PM EST until we get sick of it! BobSlopsema: james, japan is on the WRONG time then..... :-) Dale: (James is live from Japan) Alan Neeley: Dale: Well... I am still at the same place. However, I've learned one thing for sure... Adamnewbie: thanks...it was nice meeting you all. I gotta run , but will be back Wed. night. BobSlopsema: see ya Eric WBurnside: Bye Eric! Mr Jive: bye eric Alan Neeley: You know you are working in the corporate world when your employer can change Adamnewbie: good night all...:) james: i dunno, it was sunny, 27 and *warm* here yesterday. how was it in toronto? :D
Adamnewbie left chat session BobSlopsema: sunny and about 20 or so...... Alan Neeley: three times in 6 years yet you still sit in the same place doing the same thing! :) Dale: It was okay. Maybe 15 and a friendly sunshine. BobSlopsema: so I had it a little high....it is coming your way soon Dale james: not too bad. beats snow :) Dale: LOL Alan. Dale: So you do some sort of help desk, right Alan? Alan Neeley: I refer to PB, then PBNEC, now Alorica... Alan Neeley: Official title is Senior Reporting Analyst, Call Routing Consultant, and whatever job nobody else wants. :) Alan Neeley: Anyway... enough on that... Question. BobSlopsema: but darn! it sounds impressive Alan BobSlopsema: answer,........maybe...... Dale: So we were strategizing how to make an IDE ZIP drive work with the Adam. Alan Neeley: That would be a cool thing to add to my collection Dale: Either using the IDE controller, or maybe as an AdamNET device. Alan Neeley: I'm afraid that I've lost a lot of valuable information I had on floopies and tapes. I need to go through them all and see Alan Neeley: Something like that would be nice to store them on as I went through everything WBurnside: I ave to moving on out! Nitey Nite all! See you next time! BobSlopsema: see ya Willie!!!
WBurnside left chat session BobSlopsema: if they are on disk Alan, you can put them directly into your ibm using the ADAM emulator Alan Neeley: That was my option. I came across the documentation the other day on how to do that (Thanks Ron Mitchell!) Dale: Well, a 100mb AdamNET drive would be easy to support by EOS, you would put the 100k directory, maybe. Alan Neeley: Which leads me back to my question? BobSlopsema: which is???? Alan Neeley: Well.... Dale probably remembers my basement full of ADAM stuff... Right Dale? Dale: For sure! <grin> Alan Neeley: Well Spring clean up was going on this last week (imagine that in Fall) and I started sorting.... Alan Neeley: I need to start getting rid of some of this stuff. Alan Neeley: What would be the best way to go about it? james: give it away :) Dale: Maybe compile a list. That would be a good start. At the last AdamCon, we held a silent auction and sold 17 boxes of stuff. BobSlopsema: went cheap though Alan Neeley: An easy solution if you lived next door.... But there is some valuable stuff too.... Dale: It was stiff that belonged to a long time MTAG member. Mr Jive: Start a museum! BobSlopsema: man did my wife get upset.....but it all fit in the car and the basement Alan Neeley: Been there done that. Got leftovers Mr Jive: lol Dale: Start with a list. james: what are you looking to get rid of? Alan Neeley: For instance... 80 column card, Eve SSCC, and MIDI. I'm not going to use them, I have mine. But I paid good money for these ones as backups... BobSlopsema: James!!! Alan is almost halfway to Japan!!! shippng would be CHEAP! ;-) james: where do you live alan? i might be interested in the 80 col card.. james: what's an eve sscc? Mr Jive: lol Alan Neeley: Utah... I have the Orphanware and EVE versions... BobSlopsema: speach synthesizer Mr Jive: What's an 80 column card? james: so i could just hook it up to some kind of terminal or does it output to the tv/monitor? BobSlopsema: puts CP/M in 80 column mode on your monitor versus the standard ADAM 40 column Alan Neeley: Speech synthesizer/Clock Calendar james: that would be neat too. wonder if i could get it speaking japanese... Alan Neeley: Not Y2K BTW james: i've got plenty of calendars.. Alan Neeley: James: You teach it words based on set sounds... james: how much you want for each? BobSlopsema: If you can program it in Jmaes it would prolly speak anythingyou want! Dale: I've seen the SSCC at club meetings, but never had one to play with. james: what's an sscc? Dale: It looked pretty neat. BobSlopsema: speech synthesizer/clock calendar Dale: "Speech Synthesizer/Clock Calendar" Alan Neeley: James: SSCC is short for Speech Synthisizer/Clock BobSlopsema: ya goota keep up hetre James Alan Neeley: Calander james: yeah, i'm a little slow today. i'd be really interested in that alan. Dale: Not to beat a dead horse. <grin> Alan Neeley: The pet name from Eve Electronics was Eve SSCC james: yeah, yeah. very funny. now what was that again? ;) BobSlopsema: :-) Alan Neeley: Let me get to a point where I can test it and make sure it is good and I'll let you know what it is worth to me... james: sure thing. Alan Neeley: I'm gathering you are in Japan? BobSlopsema: well what it is worth to you and to us may be too entirely different things Alan... ;-) james: hai :) Alan Neeley: wasabe? :) james: good stuff :) BobSlopsema: that'd be a YEA???? james: yup :) james: we had a major earthquake about an hour from where i live. BobSlopsema: hey guys, I gotta head out....great "seein" you Alan, stop back!!! See the rest of ya's next week ....and maybe Alan too!!!! Mr Jive: Yea Japan got hit again....
BobSlopsema left chat session james: we're still getting aftershocks here. had another this morning and again about an hour ago. Mr Jive: It was like a 7.0 wasn't it? Alan Neeley: OK folks... I gotta make this a regular stop. Gotta go. Good to talk. I'll be back. That is for sure! james: i guess it's to be expected given that the country sits on the juncture of 3 tectonic plates.. james: yeah, it was pretty big. luckily it hit a rural area. Mr Jive: lol yea really! Dale: TTYL Alan. Mr Jive: bye alan Alan Neeley: James: hope all is well there... I heard despite the greatness of the quake. You guys came out OK. That wouldn't happen here in the same case... Dale: It's been nice seeing you. james: by alan. be talking to you again soon :) Alan Neeley: Thank you all! feeling is the same. Goodnight.
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