rich-c: Hello there! Pamela C.: hi, Dad rich-c: Got the satellite dish up today Pamela C.: Does it work? rich-c: Yep, just fine far as I can see rich-c: How does Russell like the game? Pamela C.: Have you tried the channels you normally have trouble with? rich-c: Yep, and they are loud and clear Pamela C.: He's still evaluating it - we'll see rich-c: I'll be interested in his reaction Pamela C.: Have you played the game? rich-c: No, I downloaded a demo months ago but it wasn't playable rich-c: I ended up deleting it rather quickly Pamela C.: I'll have to bring it back so you can try it - he says there are tricks youhave to learn rich-c: Does he have it all on the hard drive or still need the CD to play? Pamela C.: He loaded it on the HD but you still need the CD to play the game - most are like that rich-c: Figured as much rich-c: anyway no hurry - it takes a lot of hard disc space Pamela C.: If he likes it well enough, we'll acquire 2 and you can have the original back rich-c: and also I just may have other things to do with my time nwo Pamela C.: Such as? rich-c: well, Speedvision will have flag to flag coverae of teh Daytona 24 Horus Pamela C.: Oh, brother. yippee. rich-c: don't you think your mom will be deleriously happy? Pamela C.: Fer sure Pamela C.: What other channels came with the package than the sports ones? rich-c: And ity looks like I can get the entire NASCAR season, plus some Busch races rich-c: All of the Canadian and US networks plus some miscellaneous - shopping, weather Pamela C.: Doesn't the nascar season include the Winston Cup? rich-c: yes, that's the big series, Busch is the triple-A so to speak Pamela C.: You'll like the weather network - local weather every ten minutes on the 10's and it's usually pretty accurate, plus long range forecasts and environmental news rich-c: But I will likely have all NASCAR, F1, CART, IRL, ALMS and a pot of others available - plus CFL rich-c: yes, we've found the weatehr fairly interesting when we've stayed in hotels Pamela C.: Road reports in the winter are handy rich-c: I expect, but we don't do much winter driving any more Pamela C.: Still, if you want to know what your drive to CPL is going to be like, it can tell you, or if you go anywhere on the 401 rich-c: oh, for the 401 the COMPAS system on the internet is really neat Pamela C.: yeah, but to get that you have to log on - this is faster rich-c: depends - I'd say logging on is usually faster than waiting for the part you are interested in to come on Pamela C.: Depends if you know when it's scheduled. I seem to have fumble fingers tonite rich-c: besides, with COMPAS you can get a camera view of the exact stretch you're interested in Pamela C.: Dad, I hate to break it to you, but you're a techno junkie rich-c: you noticed? Pamela C.: I guess you figured that out, huh? rich-c: well, I'd been beginning to get a little suspicious Pamela C.: when? rich-c: about a week after I got the Adam, maybe? Pamela C.: Yeah, the timing is about right. rich-c: or was it back when I got my first subscription to Road & Track and started reading the spec notes? Pamela C.: No, that made you a car junkie Pamela C.: Altogether different. rich-c: can we compromise of car-techno junkie? Pamela C.: I can do that. Pamela C.: Speaking of wheels, I washed mine on Saturday. did you know my car is actually blue? rich-c: hey, I actually understand compression ratios and camshaft configurations and some aero stuff and... rich-c: Really? far as I can see, our van is salt over dirt
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changed username to james Pamela C.: Believe it or not, I'm actually learning something about the way vehicles are put together. I've had to out of self defense. Pamela C.: HI JAMES!! rich-c: well, daughter, bout time we got some company james: good morning :) Pamela C.: How did you like my mini novel? rich-c: good morning to you - we were getting lonesome james: still reading it ;) just kidding. i hope to get around to replying soon! Pamela C.: Was I right about the ID of the person in the picture I mentioned? james: if i recall, yes :) james: how's it going rich? rich-c: pretty good around here, just telling Pam we got the satellite dish in today Pamela C.: Good, then I'll know who to look for in April. FYI, Dad, I went on James' website on Monday. rich-c: good for you, Pam; I keep planning and forgetting rich-c: right now I'm busy assembling that free Adam to ship to the taker Pamela C.: I also went on Rich Drushel's site for the Legobots - no pictures, but the descriptions sound really interesting james: i'm still updating it. there's a whole section on a bunch of 486 upgrades i did that i haven't uploaded yet. rich-c: pity you won't be at Adamcon - we're going to spend an afternoon at the Lego lab there Pamela C.: James, when I tried to load the November update, it said it couldn't be found - any suggestions? Pamela C.: Who says I won't get down there? rich-c: now that's an interesting comment... Pamela C.: Has a date been set yet? james: yeah - i updated the index page but haven't uploaded the other pages yet. i figured my web pages weren't gettting quite the traffic rich-c: third weeknd in July iof suitable accomodations can be found james: that sites like yahoo or amazon do, so it'd be okay for a few days ;) Pamela C.: What am I, chopped liver? james: i hope to upload them today sometime :) rich-c: well, it's about a five hour drive to Cleveland, and it runs Thursday evening thru Sunday nite late Pamela C.: Good, then I can go back and view them. Dad, I have to check those dates to see if Russell is off that weekend. Pamela C.: My world revolves around Russell's schedule james: too bad i'm still not in ottawa. it'd be nice to make it to the conventino. rich-c: well, don't book them yet - $uitable $sites can be $scarce in touri$t $eason Pamela C.: Having a problem with your s's, Dad? ; ) rich-c: anyway, do you want a weekend when he's working or when he's not? Pamela C.: One where he's not - I have to have company for all the time I don't spend in the technical seminars rich-c: yeah, it'd be kinda rough having to spend it with your parents :+)) Pamela C.: Come now, when was the last time I had trouble spending time with you (excluding the last dinner, of course)? rich-c: quite a long while ago, but can't I tease a little? Pamela C.: Mumph. rich-c: Besides, first we have to deal with James and his visit - what is it, nine weeks now till? Pamela C.: James, are you sure you don't want to reschedule your school trip and take a side to Cleveland? james: is it really that close? james: the *last* thing i want to do is play with that schedule any more. rich-c: did I hear you gasp, james, all teh way over here? Pamela C.: What I want to know is where did the first three weeks of January go? Pamela C.: James, surely there must be a hotel you haven't wrangled with yet james: suffice it to say that it's been a lot of work putting this thing together, so i'm not open to suggestions now on changing it :D rich-c: are there parts of it you still don't have firmed up, james? james: no. essentially everything is complete. just making final payments. rich-c: ah so - the hard part rich-c: will you have evrything prepaid before you leave? james: actually, this has been the easiest part. most people have been very good about paying me on time. james: yup. almost everything. Pamela C.: How much spending money are you recommending? james: brb. rich-c: prudent, unless some sharpie decides to fink out on you Pamela C.: Well, I guess lunch must be ready. rich-c: looks like we're losing james for a minute Pamela C.: What's the time difference between here and Japan, Dad? rich-c: think it's a bit early for his lunch rich-c: I get the feeling that like me he likes it a bit later
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changed username to james Pamela C.: Oh, oh, James is twins
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moved to room Meeting Place james: sorry - i gotta go for a bit (both of me it would seem). they're here to do some work james: on the school. rich-c: I think it's either 12 or 13 hours - on standard time, I think he's 13 hours ahead james: i'll try to come back. bye for now! Pamela C.: okay, see you shortly rich-c: see you later james Pamela C.: come back soon, okay? james: will do :) and we're currently 14hrs ahead of eastern standard time.
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: OK - you still have an identity to go Pamela C.: Good evenig, Guy! rich-c: well, bye james, hello Guy Guy B.: Well, I'm here and I see that Dale fixed the chat server. rich-c: yoou're a bit late coming on tonight Pamela C.: Yes, it made for an interesting evening last wednesday rich-c: whoops! just had someone probing my NetBIOS Pamela C.: thanks for the bulletin, Dad rich-c: got his number; have to look him up later Pamela C.: Just keep thinking techno junkie, Dad Guy B.: I hope to have my website up this weekend. I was planning to have it up last weekend. But, one girlfriend, plus my sister had a computer problem. It was a mess with her.
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela C.: So, Guy - about this romance - are we ever going to get the story? rich-c: what happened with your sister?
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changed username to Ron rich-c: hello ron Pamela C.: Hi, Ron - what took you so long? Guy B.: What would you like to know? Hi Ron. rich-c: hey, he hasn't even had dinner yet out there on the Wet Coast Pamela C.: Everything Ron: Supper, dishes, putting out garbage - priority stuff Pamela C.: Ron went poof Guy B.: Oh boy, I have a adventurer here. Ron: And I'm running tonight on a 25 mhz mac, hooked to the cable....just to see if it can be done rich-c: which flavour Mac is that? Ron: LC475 Ron: 68040 processor Pamela C.: Ron, you're not showing up on the name list - what happened? rich-c: surely if it will support a netwrok card that's all you need? Ron: I see my name on the name list Pamela C.: Is anyone else seeing Ron? rich-c: he's in stealth mode - you know these Apple people Ron: yup. And it works thru the hub ok Guy B.: I've noticed that the description is missing after our names. Ron: If you can't see me, then there's definately something wrong..... I am quite 'seeable' Pamela C.: For me, those are showing rich-c: but the 040 is the equivalent of an 80486/50 Pamela C.: you're a shadow of your former self, Ron rich-c: you aren't showing in the users window, though Ron: think so Rich C. It does quite a bit for a computer of it's age Pamela C.: didn't I just say that? Guy B.: Ron is not on the list, but he's coming through. Ron: i wish
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changed username to <undefined> Ron: must I be on the list Ron: ?? rich-c: well, it seems the 68K chips the way Apple uses them are about equal to Intel chips of couble the speed Ron: indeed
<undefined> changed username to BobS Pamela C.: no, but it gets confusing when one part says you are and another says you're not. How can we talk about you if we can't tell if you're here or not? Guy B.: Hello Bob Ron: James, Bob, evening gents Pamela C.: Hi, bob! rich-c: I asked Dale about it once and understood some of his answer, I think rich-c: Hey, look who's here
left chat session Pamela C.: James is on standby, Ron - something about repairs to the school BobS: howdy ya'll rich-c: dragged you out of the Michigan snowdrifts, did they? Pamela C.: Cowboy Bob is back Ron: Bought a 17 inch monitor for this here LC, and a new keyboard, and it feels more human than the iMac Pamela C.: I think I have monitor envy Ron: Is it white in Michigan? rich-c: I think that's what my cursor crony in Phoenix has, but he just bought a 7100 used Guy B.: Ok, found the problem with the descriptions. The box where Show Users in All Rooms wasn't checked. Checked it, now the meeting place shows up. Still no Ron on the list. Ron: :) - well Pam, let's say this about that. Once you've experienced 17 inch monitor, you don't wanna go back Ron: and I hear same is true for 19 rich-c: now in TO they'er offering some 19 inchers under $400 Pamela C.: 17 inch monitor at work, 15 inch at home - it's a rough life, I tell you. Ron: yeah, I can believe that Rich. They've even been coming down in price here pretty good Pamela C.: Dad, I'm still paying for the car - where do I get $400 for a bigger monitor? Ron: should be the other way around Pamela Ron: Don't talk to me about cars today Ron: grrr! rich-c: guess you'll just have to make do for a few more months, Pam Pamela C.: Unfortunately, they have yet to make any of our work monitors surplus rich-c: unless Lotto gets real cooperative tonight, of course Pamela C.: Alright, Ron, spill it. What happened? Ron: My fan belt divided in two and started making a weedeater like noise against the inside of the engine compartment Ron: and it ain't just a fan belt any more Guy B.: I'm thinking about a new monitor for my Athlon which i hope to have up by March. I'm going to stay with 15", no room for a 17" monitor. Ron: damn thing goes everywhere rich-c: oh, one of those sepentine belts? They're REAL fun Ron: something called a belt tensioner has to come from Edmonton Pamela C.: Weedeater? I've heard a lot of descriptions, but that's a new one Ron: so I'm walking for the next day and a half Pamela C.: And remember, I work for the claims department BobS: just turning white a little but not staying around rich-c: Ouch - it ate the metal part as well, did it? Ron: well, it would have Rich if I'd kept driving.... obvious signs rich-c: yes, when the broken ends start flying around, they can whip up a real mess Pamela C.: Ron, did you try your local Speedy? They sometimes have these things, or can get them Ron: have a trusted mechanic just up the road Ron: took it there
(A dog howls in the distance) Ron: Is James alive? Pamela C.: They would sellyou the part over the counter, but there's no warranty on it that way. rich-c: I have one too, but sometimes the specialty shops can help too Pamela C.: James is having repairs done at the school Pamela C.: He's on standby. Ron: my guy tried all around town incl the Found-On- Guy B.: Ok, I'm finalizing my website for the weekend. Any suggestions from you guys concerning what I'm missing? rich-c: Bob, what did you say your price was for tape drives, and do you still offer them? Ron: Found-On-Road-Dead Dealer Pamela C.: Ah, what kind of Ford, Ron? Ron: Guy, I haven't been there yet Ron: Taurus - aka Rosy the Bull Ron: cause of her colour Pamela C.: Guy, we still don't have your web address. What kind of Taurus and what year? Ron: 1993 Pamela C.: Keep going. Ron: 6 cyl 3.0 Pamela C.: Wagon or sedan? rich-c: sedan or wagon? Ron: w/ air, tilt, cruise Ron: everythink operated by damn electrical buttons Ron: sedan Ron: Anyway.... rich-c: what's the mileage on it now? Pamela C.: Well, my aforementioned mortgaged vehicle is a . . .ready? 93 Taurus Wagon, 3.8 L V6 Guy B.: it will be http:\\members.core.com/~bonag It's not up yet, it will say not on server. Ron: 137K and change Pamela C.: Better than my 155,000 rich-c: still, after seven years it's not that unusual for a fan belt to go Guy B.: That's htp://members.core.com/~bonag Ron: gotcha Guy rich-c: though of course out there they don't get the dry heat normal folks see Guy B.: One more time. http://members.core.com/~bonag Pamela C.: Three cheers for Guy and his fingers Pamela C.: Eight years, Dad. They were built in '92. Ron: Just saw detail on your wagon Pam..... how about that! rich-c: thought modern browsers were supposed to type the http:// for you anyway Ron: you probably got the same fanbelt rich-c: no, she has the bigger engine; it may be different Pamela C.: I love my car. I don't know, I had mine changed in June of last year. No problems with it so far except some squeal. Ron: I wrote it down as \\, Rich, but I think you're right. Ron: the backslashs are for DOS path's rich-c: yes, on trailer haulers they tell you to replace them about evry three years Pamela C.: Also, mine isn 't fully power. Windows and door locks are manual - less things to break at the wrong time. Ron: interesting. rich-c: not that I do, but that's what they say, and I do do it when I remember Ron: This belt was new - replaced as a condition of my buying the car - 3 years ago Pamela C.: After market, or OE? Ron: or one of the conditions at least rich-c: have you drivern through many puddles of wter lately? Ron: OE - or it was put in by a Found On Road Dead Dealer Ron: do I sound cynical? Ron: nah Pamela C.: That's Fix Or Repair Daily, you Pamela C.: Realistic. rich-c: last time I lost a fan belt was in Tennesee Ron: actually I've been quite happy with this car. The current problem could happen to any of them Pamela C.: How careless of you, Dad. rich-c: had just fought my way through a true mountain cloudburst Ron: and there you were Ron: Say something Bob Pamela C.: Since Dad and I spent 9 months looking for the thing, it had better be perfect. BobS: HELP!!!!! rich-c: the service guy said that it was common for belts to break in cloudburst driving conditions BobS: :-) Ron: ok rich-c: and on the road back to camp I did notice a couple of broken fanbelts on the road Pamela C.: Bob, you disappointment me - I was expecting "something" Ron: great, a mechanic with a sense of humor Pamela C.: Are you sure those weren't worms, Dad? rich-c: and Bob, you ducking my question on tape drives? BobS: like what???? Ron: According to my ADAM and SB1.x, it Saturday Jan 24 Guy B.: Ok, you guys, I guess you want to here about her now. Pamela C.: Yes we do, Guy. Spill. Ron: out with it rich-c: go for it, Guy BobS: right on!!!!! Pamela C.: Check the year Ron. Saturday was the 19th. Ron: was hoping Dr. D would be here.... he gave me an explanation a while back of how that happens Guy B.: Ok, her name is Bernadette (Nickname Bunny). Been married twice, both were abusive. Guess you guys want to know how old she is? Ron: but I forgot Pamela C.: Gremlins. I'm sure of it. rich-c: No!! No!! No!! Is SB 1,x not Y2K compliant? BobS: 500???? Pamela C.: How old is she, Guy? Ron: Bob! BobS: or 21...... Pamela C.: Bob!! BobS: ok, ok........ was only foolin' ya Ron: ROTFL BobS: what happened to Ron???? Pamela C.: Stealth tech. Ron: you guys are a prescription for a riot, really rich-c: He;s in stealth mode - this site doesn't rcognize Apples Ron: what happened to me? BobS: how's come Ron is not on my list of users currently in spaniel???? Pamela C.: As in a cure? Or cause? Pamela C.: Guy, don't get sidetracked Ron: am not a spaniel Guy B.: I'll give you ONE clue. She's older than me. Pamela C.: Okay, I'll bite. How old are you? Ron: we don't know how old you are Guy Guy B.: I'm 43 rich-c: but she's younger than me... Ron: everybody is younger that you Rich Pamela C.: How much older than you - everyone's younger than you, Dad Ron: (ok... you set yourself up now admit it) rich-c: no, Princess Margaret is one day older Pamela C.: But she's not here Ron: if she was she'd die laughing Pamela C.: LOL Ron: James left Pamela C.: No, he's right - I'm sure of it. rich-c: no, but right back, that could be Ron: my tea is going cold Pamela C.: Nuke time. Guy B.: You guys aren't even trying are you? Ron: ya rich-c: iced tea is SUPPOSED to be cold Ron: seriously Guy Pamela C.: You didn't answer my question, Guy - how much older? Guy B.: 51 Ron: you are obviously enjoying her company rich-c: I'd say we're very trying, Guy Pamela C.: Cool. Do you have a thing for older women? Ron: and that's all we need to know Guy B.: I have never dated an older woman before. But, she is fantastic. Pamela C.: Guy, did you say you met her at work? rich-c: I don't regard any woman who doesn't qualify for AARP as "older" Ron: good rich-c: and I think AARP's age standard for membership is too low Ron: how old is that Rich? Pamela C.: 55, if I'm not mistaken. rich-c: 55 - in CARP. 50 Ron: like as in my case - tool old to work, too young to be a senior? Ron: too old to work, that should be Guy B.: Would believe those guys sent me an invitation for AARP. I'm not even near their minimum age limit. rich-c: yes, that's about it rich-c: you're a senior when the kids give you a seat on the bus - and you take it Ron: :) Pamela C.: Take it, Guy - the discounts are incredible Guy B.: I threw it out. rich-c: right answer, Guy, but when you're legitimately eligible, join Pamela C.: Why does it look so weird to say "my parents are seniors"? Ron: At our last FSNA Branch meet, we discussed 'associate membership' Ron: like- if you're going to receive a pension in the next 3 yeas Ron: years Ron: can't type either Pamela C.: Just don't admit any of your local politicians Pamela C.: Pensioners at 35 - hah! Ron: we don't have politicians out here Pamela C.: Oh? What do you have? Pamela C.: And don't swear Ron: I'm not sure what we've got, but they're not politicians Ron: words will not describe rich-c: yes, but that's the term you substitute for the appropriate description, in polite company Ron: let's just say that everything you hear about BC politics is true BobS: yea. so I missed somthinhere, when the wedding Guy????? Guy B.: I'm a long way from even thinking of retirement. Let alone, I just started my 401(k) contributions. Guy B.: There will be no wedding yet Bob! But, I'll let you know. Ron: It will come soon enough Guy, and you'll be glad for whatever 401(k) you're able to build rich-c: you'll be surprised how fast teh next 20 years go, Guy Ron: what's a 401(k) Pamela C.: I started thinking about retiring the minute I got a full time job. I think my parents rubbed off on me despite my best efforts. Ron: keep hearing the term on Seattle TV stations rich-c: sort of like an RRSP BobS: ok, well keep us updated and don't scare her off by going to fast down the road of love!!! Ron: thot so Pamela C.: It's an America RRSP, sort of Pamela C.: American BobS: retirement plan where the employer matches your input of sdollars Ron Guy B.: Yes sir. In fact, she's saying the same thing. Ron: speaking of updates Bob, I much enjoyed the pic of you and the new young'un Guy B.: It gives me a lot of thought what I should do. Pamela C.: Don't go too slow, either Guy. rich-c: marriage is supposed to be a long-lasting thing - don't rush it Pamela C.: Take it from a woman, we like a little progress once in a while Ron: I am not qualified to comment on that Pamela C.: What, a woman's point of view, or marriage? Ron: relationships
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changed username to james Pamela C.: I seem to be taking after my parents - 12.5 years and still going. I know people who are on their second marriage by that time Pamela C.: WB, James james: hello :) rich-c: welocme back, james Ron: Eh? James? rich-c: when will you be sending us your trip schedule? Guy B.: Hi James! Pamela C.: I've become a minority - someone who's parents are still married Pamela C.: I mean whose Ron: it's the truth Pam. james: my parents are still married. going on 27 years i think. Ron: they still in Ottawa James? james: yup. the suckers are still in ottawa. james: trip schedule is on the way rich :) Pamela C.: I got mine already, Dad Pamela C.: Nah, nyah Guy B.: My dad is in his second and it's 30 years for him. The first one lasted about 18 years. rich-c: you've got pull. Pam Ron: takes two adults to make a relationship work Pamela C.: You have to wonder what happens after that long Pamela C.: No comment please, Dad. Guy B.: That's correct and you have to be good to each other. Wish I could have been that way with the first. rich-c: over time, people change. some adapt, some dont Pamela C.: How long was the first one, Guy Guy B.: 9 years. Ron: for me 20 james: i've already decided that one way or another, i'm only doing the marriage thing once. Pamela C.: More than one, Ron? Guy B.: Make it count James. rich-c: that's easy to say at your age. maybe you'll pull it off Ron: nope, just one. Now I'm gun shy - which is not the right attitude, but ..... Ron: long story rich-c: probably is - wait till you find one who can cure you Pamela C.: Hey, some of us females are okay james: i figure if my wife could just learn to *shut up while i'm driving* we could cut down our arguments to about once a month.
(Guy B. laughs heartily) Ron: Yes, Pam I know that. Pamela C.: I solved that problem - I'm the only driver Pamela C.: Russell shuts up or he walks. rich-c: Yes, I'm getting unhappy at how Frances swears at the other drivers Pamela C.: Dad, she learned from the best Ron: now there's an offer he can't refuse rich-c: yes, and you're a bad influence on her, Pam james: i solved it another way. the last time i decided to go somewhere and she asked to come with me, i said no. Pamela C.: I am not! Guy B.: Good for you James. But, don't shut her out entirely. james: i told her why and told her the *next* time she'd be welcome to join me. Pamela C.: Until Russell is ready to tackle the driving himself, he's not entitled to criticize. Besides, he doesn't have much to complain about rich-c: I reckon if you can learn to drive on the wrong side of teh road, you're allowed a little slack rich-c: well, you had a good teacher, Pam Pamela C.: I would love to have the chance to learn - I hope there's a trip to Great Britain in my future. Ron: one drives on the left side of the road in Japan? (if one want to avoid collision that is????) james: the thing that pisses me off is she's always commenting but has never driven once in canada. i got my licence here on the first Pamela C.: That's true, Dad. The one place we never fought was in the car. Ron: didn't know that james: try. i hear most people fail it twice. james: i'd say 75% of our arguments start in the car. rich-c: Funny - I found my drivers test a lead pipe cinch Pamela C.: Yes, Ron. I didn't know that about Japan until the Olympics a few years ago. Ron: there see.... these chat groups are educational Pamela C.: Dad, get real. You took your test about 50 years ago. It's a bit different now. james: they had roads back then? :D Ron: I have driven in Toronto. You guys are special rich-c: yes, then you had to know how to use a proper gearshift james: i thought back then they just gave you the licence when you bought the car.. Pamela C.: Well, when are you going to teach me to drive standard? Ron: Now I have trouble with a congregation of even 10 cars in the same place Pamela C.: Scary, huh James? james: don't worry pam, i can't drive standard either. rich-c: I have to admit Toronto is a different place to drive BobS: James, package has lifted off here. when it gets to you, I forgot to put in the box instructions for ADAMcalc rich-c: these days it's about on a par with Detroit and challenging Montreal james: i'm getting adamcalc? Pamela C.: I understand the principle behind it, but have never had the chance to put theory into practice. Ron: Good James..... that's why were here Guy B.: I hope Rich D. makes the dates soon on the convention. There's a possibility that I might have to change my vacation schedule. I have the fourth week of July reserved. But, I already know what I have to do. rich-c: just move your 4th of July holiday to the 20th Ron: My knowledge of spreadsheets as a class of software extends over many platforms Pamela C.: If the info I'm getting is correct, it's the weekend starting July 19th. Ron: I hate them all rich-c: We just won a bid for Amiga Pro-Calc on eBay Ron: Frances could never figure out why I didn't like ADAMcalc Pamela C.: I like spreadsheets. They're very useful for things like making lists. Guy B.: Then I'll have to change it then. rich-c: we have the program and it's legal, but the donor couldn't find the manual Ron: I can add a column of figures on each one I have. That's it rich-c: she still can't, Ron Ron: I know Pamela C.: Pick one and specialize, Ron. They can do all sorts of nifty things rich-c: maybe you should have listened to Louis up in Quebec when he was with AUFG james: anyone know his whereaboots? rich-c: he could do anything with Adamcalc, even use it as a word processor Ron: should really james: oops. ignore that. james: thought you were talking about lou hubert. rich-c: last I heard he was still there, but that was a long time ago Guy B.: Bob, any word from Doug on those Pentiums. The girlfriend is still interested in one. Ron: He sat in my apartment for the better part of 2 hours trying to convince me that ADAMCalc was the Ron: best thing since sliced bread Ron: Even gave me all his tapes Pamela C.: At the time, it probably was BobS: sure guy, what ya need.... james: ron are you talking about lou hubert or louis fauteux? rich-c: did you know I have all of those auxiliary programs he wrote for AC? Ron: no, this guy was a retired accountant living in....um somewhere in central Quebec (name has gone) Ron: but he used ADAMCalc for everything rich-c: I sent him a whole mess of discs and he copied them and sent them to me BobS: got pentium 75's with 1 gig hd full package for $160 Ron: including word processing james: well, i guess lou or louis is not exactly a rare name in that neck of the woods. Ron: sec ... brb Guy B.: P75's are good. They have modems and Win95 installed correct? rich-c: anyway, Frances assures me it is a seriously neat program BobS: yup! ie 5.5 & outlook express 5.0 and FREE Juno too!!!! BobS: but ya'll got to come and get em or pay shipping Guy B.: Oh, that's a good deal. $160 you said? BobS: how many ya want rich-c: I assume you're throwing in a monnitor, Bob
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changed username to ntt sucks rich-c: Bingo, Ron BobS: well ya.......and a keyboard and mouse too!!!! Pamela C.: Having trouble, James? rich-c: hey james, we've got a buddy of yours here Ron: when he couldn't convince me on ADAMcalc, he tried to convert me to the ways of the Lord Guy B.: Probably one. Jeanene just got a old IBM Aptiva from her next door neighbor for free. Her neighbor bought a new Compac with AMD athlon processor. ntt sucks: went over to the classroom to get my glasses and when i'd come back, ntt had disconnected me. Pamela C.: how rude! ntt sucks: a buddy? who? Ron: failed on both attempts - I'm going straight to Hell, and there'll be nothing but spreadsheets rich-c: oh, my panel showed james still on ntt sucks: yeah, it does here too. rich-c: but lots of good company, Ron ntt sucks: hey bob :) Pamela C.: James, you have a twin again BobS: \ok willie B????? BobS: ntt...... ntt sucks: wb is gone. rich-c: Nippon Tel & Tel ntt sucks: "ntt sucks" is james Guy B.: Let me run it by Bunny to see if she's still wants one. They also have monitors right? Pamela C.: Are you kidding? The place will be full of accountants! BobS: oh ok Ron: do you have a choice James... other than ntt I mean? ntt sucks: not yet but i will soon. BobS: but ntt doesnt translate in ANY language ntt sucks: i could always go cellular but that's still pricier than even ntt. rich-c: dumb question, Ron - if he had a choice, think he'd be with NTT? ntt sucks: apparently for local calling i will have an alternative soon. Ron: obviously not, he seems to have relatively strong feelings on the matter Pamela C.: James - do you have Interntet capable computers in the school? rich-c: now I'm waiting for the satellite companies to offer high speed rich-c: got my satellite dish [put up today ntt sucks: actually, those idiots called again. asked me if i'd switch my long distance back to ntt and when i flat out said "no" Ron: Coleco ADAMs are internet capable Ron: it's the ISPs who are not internet capable Pamela C.: He's had satellite for exactly one day and already he's a convert Guy B.: How are they capable? ntt sucks: they asked if i'd keep my other calling services with ntt even when alternatives become available. i flat out told them "no" Pamela C.: Very definitive, James ntt sucks: the computers are capable. all that's lacking is a connection. rich-c: me, I've been with teh same ISP ever since I first got on line Ron: sounds like a conversation I had with Sprint about 4 years ago rich-c: and I'm still quite happy with them Ron: Haven't heard from them since ntt sucks: if i get this wireless stuff going, i'll have a completely ntt-free connection. Pamela C.: Unless the wireless is run by NTT Guy B.: Ron, correct me if I'm wrong. A text base program Lynx will work with an Internet connection? Ron: yes Guy, but it limits where you can go. Increasingly websites require your browser to be Ron: capable of handling frames Guy B.: That's what I was going to say concerning that and graphics. Ron: and Lynx - or at least the version that appears on most community nets - will not Ron: According to Dale Wick, the next iteration of Lynx was going to do that, but I've never seen it ntt sucks: no, the wireless will be run by *me* rich-c: yes, but you're going to have to buy your connection from someone Ron: Our local community net is looking at a plan with the local Amateur Radio Club..... far off stuff, but we Guy B.: Well, I'm going to go. I'll let you all know when the website is up and running. Keep an eye on the list. Ron: want to cover some places where there is not yet service rich-c: OK, and keep us posted on "Bunny" ntt sucks: yup and i found an outfit that can give me 1.5mbps leased line access without so much as one cent going to ntt. Guy B.: I will. Ron: niters Guy Pamela C.: Keep us posted, Guy. Have a good night!
Guy B. left chat session Ron: interesting James rich-c: so just what sort of setup are you contemplating, james? rich-c: or more to the point, what part of it do you have to do yourself? ntt sucks: i'm going to get a 1.5 mbps connection to the school. unfortunately, that costs $3000/month. so if i can get 50 people interested ntt sucks: in paying $60 per month for high speed flat rate access, it's a go. i'll be using wireles ethernet to give them connectivity ntt sucks: to my bandwidth. Ron: let see 3000 divided by 50, put down the 1 and carry the.... Ron: right Pamela C.: Use a spreadsheet for that, Ron rich-c: both prices are awdully high by Canadian standards, but Japan is different ntt sucks: no dialup charges because i completely circumvent the gouging bastards. Ron: almost attractive James Ron: oh ntt sucks: $60 here for *high speed* flat rate access. unheard of. rich-c: be like a DSL, always on, right? Ron: I have excel right here on this computer.... it's a cute little icon right up in the corner ntt sucks: yup. dedicated connection. here's the cool part: those users with laptops can roam around the town and still have their ntt sucks: connection :D rich-c: as long as they have the wireless hardware, that is Pamela C.: Okay, Ron. Open it up, put 3000/50 in a cell and see what you get Ron: brb ntt sucks: that's right :) rich-c: may take him a while, Pam Pamela C.: It gives him somthing to practice on. ntt sucks: pam, you ever worked with field codes inside tables using ms word? Ron: hah! rich-c: one of these days I have to find out how Star Office works Ron: you have to put in '=3000/50' so there! Pamela C.: No, we don't have it either at home or at work - we have Lotus Smartsuite instead ntt sucks: okay, for you computer heads out there, my "computer upgrade" section of my web pages has been uploaded. Ron: I'm dumb, but I'm not that dumb ntt sucks: ugh. i'm totally turned off lotus. Pamela C.: Why? ntt sucks: was using it for quite awhile but it was just giving me too much grief crashing all the time.l Ron: excel is not Lotus ntt sucks: http://sceneon.tv/~yoshi/upgrade/upgrdfrm.htm Ron: because otherwise, the damn thing interprets it as text BobS: hey dudes gotta go here. will see ya'll next week, K?????? Pamela C.: same difference, Ron. If you had put that calc into Lotus as I wrote it, you wouldn't need to define the label Pamela C.: Before you go, Bob, how's the new baby doing? Ron: Good niters Bob....stay well rich-c: Yep, and try to be on time next time! BobS: baby doing well was to doctor on Tues and all is well gained 8 ounces the first 2 weeks Pamela C.: Cute kid. Glad to hear it. See you next week! rich-c: terrific - Frances loved the pix, by the way Pamela C.: As did I. Ron: and me BobS: bye and good evening friends!!! Pamela C.: Ciao
BobS left chat session rich-c: nite now Ron: meanwhile rich-c: all things considered, Bob was real quiet tonioght Pamela C.: back at the farm Ron: here on the west coast ntt sucks: hey, i thought ron was gone. he doesn't show in my list. Ron: the separatists stirred rich-c: he;s found a way to hide Pamela C.: Stealth tech Ron: I haven't been showing on anybodys list James....bummer ntt sucks: yeah, i read about that. honestly, i think ottawa should just stop meddling and divulge more power to the provinces and ntt sucks: everyone would be a lot happier. Ron: I'm using an LC475 with the cable modem Ron: maybe that's it rich-c: you don't have a BC or Ontario type provincial government Pamela C.: Can you say power trip? ntt sucks: i was particularly impressed with landry, the new frontrunner for the parti squarehead. Ron: I dread the upcoming provincial election rich-c: Not in BC - can you say can't do anything? Ron: have absolutely no idea who to vote for Ron: Don't like Non-directional partisans Ron: and liberals here are inept (being charitable) rich-c: you can't vote for any. Who least needs voting against? Ron: non-directional-partisans rich-c: shall I send you a clothespin for the nose? Barf bag? Ron: they will chew themselves up if we don't vote them out Pamela C.: garbage can? Ron: ok Ron: all the above ntt sucks: we need al gore! :D rich-c: and put a bag over your head when you sneak into the poll Ron: YEAH rich-c: yes, Bob's gone so we can talk about His Illegitimacy now Ron: meanwhile, the Insurance Corp of BC is going to send us each $100 next month for being good Ron: and I have been good rich-c: haven't knocked as many corners off the cars this year? Ron: no Ron: just fan belts Pamela C.: I heard about that. Unfortunately, we don't qualify because we're a fleet - but we have three cars and 14 shops in BC - go figure Ron: oh really! rich-c: they don't count - only tickets and at-fault knocks count Pamela C.: Instead, every time we claim something, they send us a Crash Responsibility Chard instead Pamela C.: Charge, I mean Ron: don't suppose I should complain, but ..... Ron: cynicism, you know Ron: And we have a zinc company in Trail that makes more money selling power to the US than they do producing zinc rich-c: why? just because it's a hot button and an election looms? Pamela C.: Gee, ya think? rich-c: so weho in California needs zinc? Ron: yeah right..... but the premier says it's nothing to do with the election.....to which he adds, "what election?" Pamela C.: Sounds like Chretien got to him rich-c: anyway, they make a little less pollution making power than making zinc Pamela C.: Or at least his speech writers did ntt sucks: i really think chretien should have stepped down. Ron: and we're all going to go dark here soon, but probably not before the 8.2 quake, so it won't matter Pamela C.: Rumour is, he is planning to step down in June of this year. rich-c: why, is B.C. talking about the joys of private power too? Ron: current line of expertise is that we could and will be another California Pamela C.: Ron, if you have that quake, you'll be glad there's no power to fuel the fires Ron: That wouldn't surprise me Pam, he was just talking on the radion this morning about running for a 4th term rich-c: the current guess is it will be before the next Liberal convention Ron: no.....before that I'm going to drown.... tomorrow, the 'boys' are coming to dig up our weeping tile at the Ron: front of the house Pamela C.: Well the info I've heard comes from inside the party Ron: and they will collect $3300 when they're done Pamela C.: Ouch! Pamela C.: That Ron: but it has to be done...it's my computers that are gettiing wet when it rains for any more than 4 days Pamela C.: s a big dent in your wallet. Ron: which around here..... happens Pamela C.: does ICBC cover wallet dents? rich-c: I gather that other than that, wearing wellies in teh basement doesn't bother you Ron: unfortunately Ron: no Pamela C.: guess it depends on what you're hip deep in Ron: got used to it Rich. Thank the good Lord for the shop vac Ron: basically, we live in a swamp rich-c: we used to have that problem - and controlling it was expensive Ron: the water table is about 6 inches below ground rich-c: notice I didn't say curing it - just bringing it under control Pamela C.: Have you had flooding I don't know about, Dad? Pamela C.: Other than the downspout disaster, I mean Ron: well that's about it Rich. Alls we're doing is replacing 35 year old tile which we suspect is disintergrated rich-c: not on a large scale, Pam, and anything critical is in a dry area or off the floor Ron: but we won't know till we see it Ron: same here. I moved all the power bars 3 feet up the wall years ago rich-c: at that age my guess is that it's long been history Pamela C.: James, how are your water issues solved? Ron: several houses on this street have had the same problem rich-c: with a water table like that most de elopers won't put in basements Ron: it was a bit strange really.... but here I am Pamela C.: Up to your ears in alligators Ron: one night, I was sitting there playing the piano....well into my own world, and Ron: I had this sensation of wet feet...... looked down, and sure enough Ron: lapping around my feet Ron: Thought of Nero Ron: but he fiddled while Rome burned Pamela C.: tickling the ivories while BC flooded? Ron: yeah, right Ron: So we shall see if the 'investment' pays dividends rich-c: even if it limits the damage you are likely ahead of the game Ron: indeed rich-c: meanwhile, any idea where the water is getting in? Ron: yes, I know exactly where it's getting in. About 3 spots at the front of the house Ron: and it's being forced in because it has nowhere else to go rich-c: that's easy to fix - all it takes is massive dollars Ron: was described to me by the experts as a hydraulic sort of thing Pamela C.: Ah, gravity rich-c: you just trench along to front to below the foundation Ron: yup rich-c: and asphalt everything up to the bottom of the bedroon windows rich-c: then it goes away and starts coming in from the sides Ron: well good people..... Pamela C.: Indeed Ron: Think I've been disconnected..... and perhaps it's time Pamela C.: Time for bed, I think rich-c: getting on to that times, isn't it? rich-c: ditto - so to all a good night ntt sucks: pam, if you get around to my web pages again, there's more up now. rich-c: and we shall see you next week rich-c: same time, same URL
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