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changed username to Meeka rich-c: good evening meeka Meeka: hello rich-c: beast the old man in tonight rich-c: that's beat Meeka: yea I guess I did rich-c: do you know if he plans to join us later? Meeka: I have a new web site I would like you to look at Meeka: I think he will be here later rich-c: OK, tell me about it Meeka: The address is http://adam.hollowdreams.com Meeka: I have finally got around to putting the convention pictures up rich-c: that's terrific, Meeka; I gather that is your site Meeka: Doug just created the site name on Monday, so if you can't find it yet, keep trying for a couple days Meeka: he says it might take a few days to populate to the serves rich-c: right, I've made a note. looking for any more pictures? Meeka: yes!!!!!! Meeka: I will add any you wish to give me rich-c: I will see if I can come up with any scans for you then rich-c: meantime, james should be landing in Vancouver about now Meeka: I am doing pretty good on the reecent conventions, Meeka: but i don't have many of the early years rich-c: Pamela was here earlier and may try to get on from home, but she is having a busy night rich-c: michael hurst also said he'd try to join us Meeka: so am i we have recently gotten a dog and he thinks that he wants to play rich-c: anyway, for me it's a major excavation, but I will give it a try rich-c: what is your email address? Meeka: i have several. the most often checked ones are firstname.lastname@example.org & email@example.com Meeka: brb. dog need to go outside a min. rich-c: I tend not to trust freebie websites with email if there are attachments involved, especially if they are large rich-c: by the way, tried to look at Guy's new website earlier, but the server was down rich-c: wonder if he was busy uploading more stuff to talk to us about? Meeka: ok i'm back Meeka: I have not tried to look at his site yet rich-c: god - what kind of dog did you get? Meeka: a shih tzu rich-c: that's good
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: they are a small dog, aren't they?
changed username to scott rich-c: hello Scott long time no see scott: Hi rich, meeka.
moved to room Meeting Place Meeka: yes. he will only get to be between 10-16 pounds when he is an adult
changed username to Guy B. rich-c: actually let you have an hour off, did they? Guy B.: Greetings!! Meeka: hello scott: I've been caught up in school for awhile now. rich-c: ah, here's Guy now. we were just talking about you scott: Hi, guy. Guy B.: You were! rich-c: couldn't get on your website earlier - were you uploading satuff? scott: Has anyone seen Dale? scott: Just curious... Guy B.: It's now all up and running. Made the announcement before I went to Kentwood last Saturday. rich-c: he isn't on yet tonight, but has been on the last few sessions Meeka: Rich- he must have been cuz i just tried and got in just fine scott: Guy, what is the URL to your site? Guy B.: members.core.com/~bonag/Index.htm scott: Is it an ADAM site? rich-c: that's what I tried around 7.30 - 8 and got can't find server rich-c: tried it using both IE and Opera, same result Guy B.: It should be members.core.com\~bonag\Index.htm Guy B.: It's on the Adam Emulator Utilities. rich-c: internet usage is a solidus, not a backslash, Guy scott: Good stuff. Are you fairly knowledgeable regarding the ADAM Emulator?? scott: I've played a little with the emulator, like it a lot. Guy B.: I picked this all up on my own since Marcel dekogel didn't provide any docs with his utilities. scott: I will have to take a look at your site. rich-c: have you noticed there's now a sort of mass emulator covering almost all teh 8-bit game systems? scott: I would like to learn more about ADAM Emulator... scott: Haven't noticed that, Rich. scott: Would love to see their source code for the emulator :) Guy B.: Even a Nintendo emulator is out there too. The 8 bit and I believe the 16 bit one as well. rich-c: it's called MAME32 and I believe you can get it at www.classicgaming.com scott: Sounds interesting... Guy B.: I have that. This one of the best arcade emulators around. There are tons of arcade game roms around. scott: Hmmmm... rich-c: it's a download of just over 3 meg apparently scott: Not very large at all... rich-c: is it happy to run under Win95, Guy? Guy B.: The rom files are between 10 and 25K. Yes, it runs under Win95. rich-c: I know it runs, but does it do so happily? Is it well-behaved? Guy B.: No problem with me. Even with this P133. scott: Rich -- do you have any videos that were taken from ADAMCon? rich-c: what does it use to emulate a joystick, or does it just pick up the Windows one?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: no, I don't have a videocam scott: Does anyone have any ADAMCon videos? scott: Could this be Dale??? Meeka: no, but i have lots of pictures going up on my site
changed username to BobS Guy B.: The joystick gives me some trouble. The arrows keys works fine and the control and alt buttons are the firing buttons. rich-c: hello Bob, you're late scott: Hellllllo Bob! Guy B.: Hey Bob. BobS: not late.....just NOT early! Meeka: hi dad BobS: SCOTT!!!!!! the one and only Scott Gordon?????? scott: Hmmm... Pictures. Perhaps we could create a slideshow of sorts... rich-c: so Guy if you don't have a joystick, the arrow keys are better anyway? scott: Hiya Bob, yes it's me... what's left of me... BobS: hi dear Guy B.: They work better for me. scott: School's a killin' me. BobS: and all you "other" users....... ;-) BobS: welCOME welcome scott: It's taken awhile for me to get here. rich-c: school or job or teh combination? BobS: was Dale Here??? thought I saw his name when I entered.... scott: Nice to see that you're still meeting... Guy B.: Hey Bob, just ordered that monitor for $99 from Tigerdirect. scott: Brand new? BobS: and that was a 17" SVGA??? rich-c: no, Dale hasn't shown up yet scott: Wow. I should get one too. scott: It's only money, right? rich-c: that seems a little on the cheap side, unless it's a .29 dot pitch or something scott: Currently I am studying Computer Science, which keeps bringing me back to the Coleco ADAM... scott: Have you guys seen that ADAM Computer up for sale on Ebay??? rich-c: well, one great joy of the Adam is that it's a terrific place to make your acquaintance with computers scott: All the packaging, everything included... scott: Yes, ADAM has helped me a great deal... scott: Put me ahead of many others in my classes... rich-c: and what's teh top bid? $5? scott: No, it's getting kind of expensive. BobS: been watching lately as always BobS: what is it? Guy B.: It's a .28 dot pitch and they KDS monitors. They are calling them moniputers since a computer with an LPX motherboard can be built in them. scott: The guy wants $300 for the Buy It Now option... scott: It's a standalone ADAM Computer with all of the original packaging, barely used. scott: Quite a nice collectors item... rich-c: he's nuts - you couldn't get that money for an original unopened box Guy B.: Who's selling it? scott: You'll have to do a search on "Coleco ADAM". scott: Nobody I'd recognize... rich-c: pass on teh packaging and you can get an Adam for free (if you pay shipping) Guy B.: $300 is quite steep. I think he won't sell it at that price. scott: I'd forgotten what a better chat room this was over my old one. scott: Works much nicer... rich-c: yes, Delphi was such a mess it was unusable Guy B.: And we can get more on. rich-c: yours was good but it had quirks scott: Yes, $300 is an arm and a leg. Guess he won't be selling it very quickly... rich-c: here things seem to go quite smoothly scott: Rich -- has my dad contacted you about the disk drive? scott: He told me that he had fixed it, and had one last thing to do...
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: haven't heard a word, Scott, and I must admit I'm deeply disappointed scott: But it was minor. The major work was done...
changed username to Pamela Guy B.: Hi Pam! rich-c: hello daughterde Meeka: hi pam scott: Hi, Pam? Pamela: Hi, sorry I'm late rich-c: spent too much time talking to your Mom Pamela: Very funny, Dad Pamela: Hi, Scott - who are you? scott: Don't dispair, Rich. scott: Hi Pam. Nice to meet you. Pamela: You too. rich-c: his last name is Gordon - as in Micro Innovations - his father made the Adam stuff BobS: HIYA pamela! scott: I will bug my dad for you again, Rich. Pamela: Good Evening, Robert Guy B.: We sure haven't heard from Rich D. since he made the cost of the convention avalable. But, nothing since then. scott: I am glad that he did actually fix it for you. rich-c: no, and I wouldn't mind some details Pamela: Lots of second generations here tonite scott: Usually my dad doesn't procrastinate on things like that. rich-c: we're really going to take a whack on that with a 64 cent dollar Pamela: Hi, Meeka - long time no see! scott: I guess he didn't have an ADAM fully set up to test the drive until I took it out of the box not too long ago... Meeka: I know . I have been busy lately rich-c: Meeka has a new puppy, Pam Guy B.: And I saw that puppy. Meeka: his name is Bnadit Pamela: Oooh, puppy! What kind and how old? Meeka: oops thats bandit scott: That's funny. I also got a puppy while I've been away. Meeka: he is 3 1/2 months old and is a shih tzu Pamela: How was the trip to Grand Rapids, Guy? scott: It's a Jack Russell Terrier, now 6 months. Absolutely insane... BobS: Looonnngggg....... ;-) scott: Will provide pics... scott: Bob, are you still publishing the ANN disks? Pamela: I'll bet he's adorable, Meeka. Yours too, Scott. Guy B.: Went pretty well, except on the way back we hit about 3 heavy squalls of lake effect snow. Pamela: Fun, wow. Thanks for not sending it our way. Meeka: he is cute. everyone that see him says so BobS: yup Scott just been neglectful about getting them on my website of late BobS: he is a Frito Bandito!!! Pamela: My aunt has a shihtzu of about 6 yrs names Saki. They are wonderful dogs. scott: I really should forward you some items to include with your ANN disks. rich-c: aren't Fritos too salty for him? Guy B.: Had my dog with me on my trip. Meeka, I bet Abby wanted to play with Bandit. scott: So much content is sitting on my hardrive, inaccessible to the community... Meeka: no as much as bandit wanted to play with abby BobS: ya sure mon!!!! rich-c: yes Scott, did you evenmanage to get any OCRs of teh ASG? scott: My girlfriend translated an old Powermate manual into Spanish. Pamela: look out, Dad's using acronyms Guy B.: Abby wanted to interact with everyone there. rich-c: puppies are like that scott: Rich -- Only about the first 2 1/2 - 3 chapters. The text was extremely difficult to OCR. Pamela: Just try that with cats and look out. Good thing they get along. rich-c: tell me about it - I am not happy with my OCR function scott: I actually gave my girlfriend a chapter to translate into Spanish, but she got sidetracked. scott: I have planned to get back to it, Rich because I enjoyed the content. rich-c: just having it on the net in any downloadable form would be so nice Guy B.: I just bought a scanner for my new system myself. Got it at a steal from Sams Club. Pamela: How's the website going, Guy? rich-c: wonder if a pdf scan would come out usable? scott: I can forward to you what I did OCR. Guy B.: Pam it's up and running. scott: Hmmm... rich-c: I don't have a website to put it up, but Dale might like to have it Pamela: Is Dale already in Montreal? scott: I e-mailed Dale today. I don't think he's responded yet. scott: That might be a good thing to start with. rich-c: don't know, just that he will be back to join us for dinner Sunday scott: I am getting to the end of this semester. scott: So I can donate some time here and there where possible. Pamela: Whatcha studying, Scott? rich-c: Dale is busy with his company, and may be out of town scott: I am studying Computer Science BobS: ah yes....JAMES!!!! he should be on his way to Canada by now rich-c: he isn't the worlds most prompt about replying to emails BobS: OR even in Vancouver??? Pamela: I thought James was leaving tonite his time, tomorrow ours? scott: Currently I'm add the Community College bolstering my GPA. I've got a 4.0 since returning to school. rich-c: wasn't he supposed to land in YVR at 6 Pacific? That's 9 Eastern Pamela: Wow. Pretty impressive, Scott. scott: I will probrably pursue a BS at CU Boulder here in Colorado. Guy B.: Good going Scott. scott: Would like to get my Masters from Berkeley. scott: Maybe even a Doctorate one day. scott: It's just time, right guys??? rich-c: settle for one degree at a time - know your path though Pamela: Well, if nothing else, you'll get a tour of the country. Pretty big aspirations. Go for it! Guy B.: Get some computer experience from a good company and maybe tuition reimbursement will fill the bill for you. rich-c: what subject do you want your degree in, Scott? scott: I'm shooting kinda high, but it's giving me something to shoot for. Pamela: Get ready for an "I told you so" from Dad, but I wish now I had gone on to post secondary scott: Computer Science. rich-c: Pam - I told you so scott: Yes, TRW is paying for my Tuition Reimbursement 100% Pamela: See? rich-c: scott - maybe very seriously you should also look at Canada BobS: cool!!!! rich-c: the University of Waterloo has a reputation in computers that rivals MIT BobS: get all the education in compters you can swindle out of them scott: I was thinking of getting a BS in Engineering with a minor in Computer Science. scott: Really? scott: I didn't know that. BobS: talk to "Dale rich-c: oh yes, that's where Microsoft recruit half their staff BobS: he went to U of Loo didn't he??? scott: I have been going by US News & World Report. Pamela: I must admit, my ambitions were non existent at the time, and I didn't know what I was suited for. rich-c: well that's the problem, US media are so xenophobic and provincial Pamela: Think outside the envelope, Scott scott: Their national rankings of Colleges ranked by Computer-related degrees w/PhD offered. Pamela: Our universities are some of the best in the world. rich-c: you need a long chat with Dale scott: I wouldn't have a problem moving to Canada for a better education. Pamela: We would welcome you scott: It's the education that is of prime importance. scott: Thank you, Pam. rich-c: especially when you're carrying dollars worth $1.50+ local
moved to room Meeting Place scott: This is... Ron... BobS: ALRIGHT!!!! let's ALL move to toronto!!! Pamela: yep
changed username to Ron Pamela: tada! scott: Hello Ron. Guy B.: Hi Ron. BobS: Ronald! rich-c: Ron it is - hi! Pamela: Sir Ron! scott: Wow, gotta full house tonight... Meeka: hi ron Ron: alo! BobS: The west coast IS represented! Ron: ah yes Ron: late, but here Pamela: Bob, you can just come on up here anytime at all Guy B.: Plus Toronto and the Midwest. rich-c: we're just explaining to Scott why he should go to Waterloo for his Computer Science degree Ron: Hi Meeka, Hi Bob, Hi Pamela, Hi Guy, Hi Scott, Hi Rich Ron: anybody else? Pamela: Bob, you gotta bring Meeka and Doug, too scott: Wow, so Waterloo has a reputation along the lines of MIT and Berkeley??? rich-c: well, that sort of covers teh list Pamela: Think that covers it Ron Meeka: if he goes i guess we can too Ron: :) rich-c: ask the personnel managers at Microsoft scott: I will have to check them out. Pamela: If Guy comes along, we can find him a nice Canadian girl Guy B.: Gee, that sounds mighty tempting. Ron: Has the meet with James gone down yet? Pamela: Nope, not till Sunday Ron: ah rich-c: no, he should be landing at YVR just about half an hour ago Pamela: I thought that was tomorrow night rich-c: then it's on to Montreal, then Ottawa, then here Sunday Ron: ok.... by which point he'll either be used to his situation or totally insane Pamela: That man is gonna sleep for a week when he gets home Ron: I guess eh? Pamela: I vote for the latter rich-c: well, his itinerary shows Saturday as Day 4 Ron: I would not attempt such an excursion rich-c: yes, I sort of feel we should meet him at teh train station Saturday night rich-c: with a stretcher Ron: 11 scouts for weekend was enough Pamela: James has youth on his side, Ron - and not enough wisdom to know better yet Meeka: well now that tere are more people on I thought that i would let you know that I have finally started my site of convention pictures Ron: and that was 30 years ago Pamela: Address please, Meeka Meeka: The Url is http://adam.hollowdreams.com if anyone is intrested. rich-c: long silence while everyione writes it down scott: Bob -- do you want these chapters from The ADAM Survival Guide to include on your website Pamela: Done Meeka: I am also intrested in any pictures you all might have rich-c: say yes, Bob scott: and possibly include in the ANN Disk? Meeka: especially of the early years. Ron: The URL makes me feel sad Meeka. Was that the intent? Meeka: so far the only early picutes have con from Ron, cuz i wan't around then Pamela: Dad, get busy Meeka: We picked it cuz of the street we live on Meeka: Maple Hollow rich-c: we've talked about it before you came in, daughter Ron: Oh ok. I conjured up several stories about why Ron: they shall remain untold BobS: YES!!! ship them over email Pamela: Bob, you disappoint me - I was waiting for a "Yes, Bob" scott: What's your e-mail address, Bob? Pamela: Please, Ron, enlighten us BobS: firstname.lastname@example.org OR email@example.com Ron: some day maybe Pamela: poop Ron: :) Pamela: ; ( scott: Well guys, it was nice talking to you, but I have to get back to my homework. Meeka: see you later scott Pamela: Nice to meet you, Scott. Be back next week? scott: I would like to stay, but I'd better keep plugging along... rich-c: OK Scott, hope to hear about that drive soon Ron: study well Scott...... learn it all Guy B.: Great to hear from you Scott. Take care and come back soon. rich-c: and any success with tgetting the ASG on line will be super welcome scott: Yes Rich, will do my best to annoy my father. Pamela: Always a worthy goal rich-c: thanks - hope to see you soon again scott: Bob, I will send you the files before I get offline. scott: Thanks all. scott: And will try to see you next week.
scott left chat session rich-c: great - nite now Pamela: What, no comments, Dad? rich-c: well, haven't heard from Scott for some time - that was welcome Pamela: Nice to have a full house Ron: Indeed rich-c: it is, miss james but that was sort of inevitable Pamela: Well, we can fill James in on Sunday Guy B.: Yes, that was. At least he took sometime from his busy schedule to come in. rich-c: didn't have a single sould turn up Saturday Pamela: Saturday is the only time I get to sleep - by the time I think of it, it's usually too late Meeka: Guy was at our house saturday, so we kinda forgot rich-c: I have teh feeling it's too awkward a time for most people Guy B.: I would have been there, except I was on my way to Grand Rapids. Will try for this Saturday. BobS: and I forgot again. was at dfoug' Ron: Yes, with any luck, me too Pamela: Since Saturday is the only day I have free this weekend, I may be able to swing it BobS: was at Mekka and Doug's and forgot when the time came Pamela: A dinner date with Kimberly doesn't count rich-c: well, we'll be there on Saturday and see who turns up rich-c: I've already let Dave Compson know - he emailed me today about it rich-c: but I'm going to have my own problems getting on as the year wears on rich-c: the IRL has a couple fo Saturday afternoon races rich-c: and the CFL likes Saturday afternoon games in the summer Pamela: That's what videotape is for, Dad rich-c: yes, with tape you can at least fast forward through teh commercials Pamela: One satellite dish and we've created a monster rich-c: yes, but the monster is at leasst easier on your nerves Pamela: And it means I can now tape at your place instead of mine when you're away rich-c: yes, and even have two simultaneous tapes going at the two places if necessary Ron: I take it something new has been added? rich-c: I signed up with Star Choice Ron: oh boy! Pamela: After years of insisting he wasn't paying for TV, we finally talked him into a satellite dish rich-c: got tired of imposing on Pamela for tapes of F! events Pamela: He got all the sports channels and my Mom has become a TV widow Guy B.: Rich, how much will this be costing you each month? rich-c: $21 rich-c: that's about $14 US Ron: And yet another ADAM computer sits in the corner neglected Guy B.: That's not bad, how many channels? Pamela: You should hear the ADAM crying - it's pitiful rich-c: big basic package plus a half-dozen sports Ron: I know that pitiful sound Pamela: "57 channels and nothin' on" rich-c: actually, all it means so far is that Frances gets more internet time Ron: Was going to say rich-c: yes, I only expect to use six to eight channels Pamela: My parents, the techno addicts Pamela: I come by it honestly BobS: well then WHAT are them other channels for???? Pamela: Filler Ron: If it wasn''t for Tiger Woods, I would watch little rich-c: the gummint insists on them - they're there to be politically correct Pamela: Ron, do you actually watch the Golf Channel? Ron: Always enjoy watching people do well that which I've tried to do myself Ron: It's all mother's fault. We wouldn''t have had tier 3 in here if it weren't for the Golf Channel rich-c: I have five US networks, three Canadian, a whole slew of independent Canadian, the spots package and a few wild shots Pamela: I have to admit that our channels get a workout - all 60 odd of them Ron: And you can watch Tony Parsons out of Vancouver if you want Ron: The 6 pm news rich-c: yes, I believe I can get each regional Canadian feed rich-c: they do that to allow some time shifting Ron: That's what would attract me Pamela: What, and miss Lance Brown? Ron: oh..... sorry rich-c: don't think they get him in Victoria anyweay, Pam Pamela: A sportscaster with a head for puns - scary Ron: nope.....instead we on the Island have Hudson Mack Ron: or was it Mack Hudson? rich-c: do we want to know about this? Pamela: what, puns? Ron: has little to do with ADAM rich-c: Truck Rivers, or vice versa Ron: nope, his name is really Hudson Mack Pamela: The US contingent is very quiet all of a sudden Ron: WAKE UP BOB!!! Meeka: sorry, busy playing with the dog too rich-c: they've learned about Crazy Canucks on a rant... Ron: awww Pamela: Ron, you'll give Bob a heart attack if you keep that up Ron: Hope they're not watching our parliament just now BobS: I 's here..... Ron: wha Pamela: all that shouting BobS: yup! Ron: Bob, you know anybody down there who has a 1 gig scsi drive surplus? BobS: wanna go back to Victoria!!!!!!! Ron: 1 or 1.5 Ron: ok Ron: we'll have to talk about that rich-c: I know where there's a parallel port Syquest external Pamela: Right, next year's convention site is set BobS: DARN!!!! last weekend a place we bought stuff had them cheap and no shipping!!! rich-c: sorry, Fort Walton Beach has dibs on 2002 Ron: oh sh*t Pamela: Where's that? BobS: but scsi's are cheaper everywhere than ide.... Ron: Want to beef up this here laptop BobS: pcsurplusonline.com Ron: can't find any here rich-c: local glorified pawnshop has two Ron: sec BobS: and you want an internal??? or external??? rich-c: they want $135 each - dreamers!!!! Pamela: Pawnshops have come a long way recently Ron: internal, but I'll take external if needs be rich-c: this is cash converters Pamela: I know that, Dad and it's become fashionable toshop in them rich-c: but that's far too much money for an orphan drive Pamela: Where's Fort Walton Beach? Ron: Home of the Pines rich-c: in fact, they had a whole lot of Syquest big drives on eBay a while back, and cheap Pamela: Well, that was illuminating rich-c: Florida Ron: yes should check out e-bay Pamela: thanks rich-c: and he means Howard, Elizabeth Pines and family BobS: for the mac 386 laptop??? Ron: don't know why I can't just leave these derned computers the way they come Pamela: ADAMspeak, obviously Ron: ya rich-c: because they don't come built right Ron: It'll run Linux if I can come up with some more drive space rich-c: you don't really own a computer till you've taken it apart a few times Pamela: Well, obviously I don't own mine yet then Ron: exactly rich-c: wanna borrow a screwdriver? Pamela: Does an expert come with it? Ron: The only one that goes to the dealer is the iMac, and it's the one that's the finickiest rich-c: nope, you gotta find your own Ron: hows that for a word. finickiest rich-c: and besides, it's under warranty Ron: yes Pamela: Not any more it isn't - one year warranty expired in December Ron: It got OS X installed over the weekend rich-c: and warranty adjuducators get real shirty when they find pushpins inside Ron: bought 2 more years Pamela: Add it to the Ron dictionary, please Ron: :) Ron: I only put pushpins in the equipment that Bob is going to see rich-c: what do you think of the new OS, Ron? Ron: It's still green around the edges, but I'm impressed. Ron: It's actually UNIX based, and you can actually go to the UNIX command line interface rich-c: yes, it's really almost still a beta, I've heard Pamela: my office gadget of choice is the paperclip, personally Meeka: well, i had better get going. Dog needs to go out and i should get ready for bed. please let me know what you think of my site if you get a chance to check it out. Ron: which, I know wouldn't impress too many people Ron: Say Hi to Doug rich-c: OK Meeka, nice having you here. Give Bandit a pat for us Meeka: ok will do Pamela: I'll be on as soon as I leave here, Meeka. G'nite and nice to see you Ron: will check the site Guy B.: Bye Meeka.
Meeka left chat session rich-c: if it's Unix based, maybe you should try it on a DOS machine Ron: The Apple Computer corp has a way to go with X before people start talking positively Ron: For me it's a leap of faith rich-c: or no, it would have to be recompiled first, wouldn't it? Ron: good point Ron: yes, there are differences in chip architecture and all rich-c: I've noticed teh early coverage has been cautious Ron: but from what I've heard, the two are getting closer rich-c: wouldn't it be nice to have a credible competitor to Windows? Ron: Well, just to hedge their bets, the package I bought also came with OS 9.1 for those who must have software applications not yet 'carbonized' Ron: which is the term for 'made compatible with OS X' rich-c: something sugestive about that... Ron: It certainly has potential to give Gates and Co. a run rich-c: yes, everybody, now - speak nicely to Steve Jobs Pamela: Um, bedtime for me too, I think. Things are starting to get fuzzy. Ron: My dealer here was guarded in his enthusiasm Guy B.: Bye Pam. Ron: sleep well Pamela Pamela: The James report coming next week BobS: it can't be much worse than some functions of windows, can it? BobS: nighty nite Pam Pamela: Dad, will call over the w/e to arrange meetings on Sunday.. Good nite, all rich-c: night, Pamela. Let me know how things go with the CD Ron: Well, Bob, rightly or wrongly, I have the impression that it's rock solid. beeen trying to do wierd things with it all week, Pamela: Will do. Ron: and it follows along real well
Pamela left chat session rich-c: if it can stand up to Ron, that's rock stable Ron: rite Ron: Only thing I find is that there's a whack of support missing... like for CD-RW, and sound thru external speakers, which is where rich-c: and I don't mean ring of fire rock, either Ron: y sub-whoofer is BobS: now, does it have a windows look too?? or is it a do like llok?? BobS: YOOO!!!!
moved to room Meeting Place Ron: but all of that will no doubt follow Ron: pretty much exactly what they are saying in the write-ups Ron: Am I still here?
changed username to rich-c Ron: Actually, it looks more like KDE (an X-windows interface under Linux) Guy B.: Rich got knocked off. rich-c: well, we're all back, or was I the only one dumped? Ron: I almost got dumped..... there was a long pause BobS: got lost there for a few minutes.... BobS: WHAt is a X-windows interface look like? Ron: They can swipe at us, but they can't knock us over Ron: Well Ron: What's the best way to describe it...... an amateur representation of Windows 98 rich-c: don't know if I've at last found the trick, or if Opera is a lot better at recovery than IE Ron: they're trying to be just different enough to avoid laswuits Ron: but the buttons are in the same place BobS: got icons and such on a background screen and they take you to programs? rich-c: here we go again - "look and feel" Ron: It's a way of configuring Linux so the average jo doesn't have to remember command lines rich-c: yes, maybe some day I can learn to use it rich-c: then all I'll have to do is find the drivers for the peripherals Ron: Oh hey Rich....guess what being distributed with the latest distribution of Linux Mandrake Ron: Abiword Ron: really like it rich-c: tol ya so! Ron: works well, looks good, and is free rich-c: and, it will convert an html page to txt or wri Ron: neat rich-c: there's a lot of neat freebies on the net these days Ron: Some day I have to settle on something and start doing useful work with my equipment rich-c: why? rich-c: it's much more fun to just putz around Ron: I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time installing things and playing around with setup Ron: but then... it's fun rich-c: yes, I'm trying to work up the courage to get a new computer rich-c: but I was on the AMD site the other night and man, that's scary Ron: Brother Dave in Calgary just bought a new Seanix.... CD-RW 20 gig, 64 meg RAM Ron: and he hasn't the faintest idea how to use it. Called me the other night to ask how to shut it down Ron: and since I'm not running Ron: Windows ME, I couldn't help him BobS: ROTFL...... rich-c: I'm beginning to worry my 166MMX /32/8.4g is falling off teh trailing edge Ron: Anyway.... with printer and 17 inch monitor he paid $1600 Ron: Now I'm gonna have to get ME just to help my brother rich-c: tell him to trade it for Win98/2d Ron: that's what I got rich-c: all the guru newsletters and sites I see say ME is a serious loser Ron: and believe it or not, the shutdown box is different Ron: Well that's why I didn't go there... especially when they said there's absolutely no legacy support rich-c: I don't suppose they include a manual Ron: my P200 is one big Legacy rich-c: and I can guess how useful the help file might be Ron: yes, but he hadn't read it rich-c: figgers Ron: right..... Ron: Anyway, I'll have to phone to see how it turned out. He asked me if he would hurt it to leave it on, while he went to work, and Ron: ask somebody there Ron: presumably that's what he did. Otherwise the damn thing is running yet Guy B.: Well. I'm going to go. I'll try for Saturday. rich-c: depends on how good the heat management is on the Seanix and what processor he has rich-c: OK Guy, hope to see you then Ron: What surprised me was that he got it out of the box, put together and running as advertised BobS: see ya Guy Ron: its a Duron 800 meg jobbie Ron: night Guy
Guy B. left chat session BobS: heck, it won't hurt the sucker to stay on from now till 2002!!!! Ron: that's what I told him rich-c: AMD is very finicky about what they want in teh way of fans and ventilation rich-c: if the heatsink and fans are OK maybe it's better to leave it on Ron: well presumably it is suitably equipped rich-c: at least you won't get heat cycling Ron: Anyway.... so much for providing brotherly support over the phone rich-c: My thinking, subject to revision, runs along Athlon 800/128/20+ lines Ron: This kid is absolutely afraid of computers, but he's been under the gun from the workplace I gather rich-c: teach him how to play free cell and find teh porn sites rich-c: that gets to them every time Ron: Oh, that's the other thing. He's said he's not going online until he's used to the computer.. Ron: I dunno. He'll be over here in August. Will have to talk to the boy rich-c: make sure he gets Zone Alarm first Ron: oh yes Ron: I think that's the neatest little prog BobS: some people.....like me mother-in-law...will NEVER get used to the computer! BobS: what's Zone Alarm??? Ron: right Bob. Some nights I wish I was afraid of them Ron: yeah Zone Alarm rich-c: and also tip him off to adware - there's a replacement program now for OptOut BobS: I just tell myself, .......I am BIGGER than you!!!!! Ron: oh?" Ron: ROTFL Bob rich-c: Zone Alarm tells you who is trying to break into your computer, and stops them Ron: Just to show you the level of misconcept I'm dealing with Ron: He thinks that once a hard drive is full, that's it, it cannot be used any more rich-c: in fact, I haven't been probed tonight, which is unusual Ron: this despite my best explanations Ron: we have some serious basics to cover rich-c: never mind, he'll likely decide to open it up with del *.* Ron: ya....wouldn't that be interesting rich-c: I've heard it can make for some real fun times Ron: There must be a computer user's group in Calgary...surely rich-c: or surely he has a buddy of some sort who does know about using computers Ron: Think there's some of the guys at work. rich-c: give him Bob's email address - Bob knows all about computers Ron: hey! There's a thought rich-c: I've heard he's even advanced beyond pushpins Ron: Well gents..... BobS: yup, I got messy solder jobs handled! Ron: I must go balance my cheque book BobS: heck there is a program called FORMAT.COM....that cleans ALL hd's rich-c: an easy out - I have to take out teh garbage and recycling Ron: yep BobS: yes it it getting on to bedtime here on the eastern side Ron: that too... garbage collection here is Thurs morning.... and I don't do Thursday morning rich-c: so I think I better run too - see ytou both Saturday? BobS: till next week then gents! Ron: okey Ron: see ya's rich-c: nite now Ron: poof BobS: nope got to work in a far off city in the antique mall on Sat this week
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