james: good morning :) Dale: Hiya James., james: how'S it going? Dale: It's going good. james: i'm still a little jetlagged but otherwise holding up well :)
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changed username to rich james: bingo james: morning rich :) Dale: Hey Richard. rich: Hi there Dale and james rich: made it home safely, I see james: yes, and my luggage too :) rich: that latter is a real triumph rich: how many days did you sleep once you got back? james: yeah. they managed to temporarily misplace one of sharon's bags. made a little side trip to narita instead of going directly to osaka. rich: was that for teh bag or another reason? james: i slept very well when we got back but was up at 6 the following morning. still haven't managed to sleep past 8:30 yet. Dale: Well, with that many flights, that's still pretty good. james: it got checked accidentally with a large group that was beside us at the checkin. rich: yes, I would think 8.30 would be tolerable even with your late bedtime james: fortunately they were also going to japan. james: managed to stay up until 11 last night rich: gradually, your internal clock is resetting james: yeah, and i'm crazy enough to be thinking about doing another trip *this* summer. rich: now, now, - sit down - relax - calm down there..... james: actually, i'm feeling quite up to it. rich: well, as long as it includes Cleveland the weekend of July 12-15th... james: wish it could. cleveland would be a little out of my way though. i do promise though that if there's an adamcon in vancouver to do my james: best to make it. rich: I am afraid that it will be some time before that comes about rich: if they choose to nforce it, Florida (Ft. Walton Beach) has dibs on next year james: so it seems. well at least i got to meet you all in person finally, even if we didn't talk all that much. james: will pam be joining us today? rich: I thought that given the other duties you did very well indeed james: well, 12 kids in tow makes for being busy :) rich: haven't talked to her for a few days so I don't know rich: I know she enjoys the chats but may watch west wing first then join after 10 james: i'm assuming since i live on the dark side of the moon, that that's some kind of medical drama tv show.. rich: I can tell you she got an enormous kick out of meeting your and your group, and Jillian rich: actually it's a politcal drama - as in White House West Wing Dale: It was a bit of a brief meeting. You were both so busy. james: it was nice for her to come up the tower with us.
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changed username to BobSlopsema rich: she really enjoyed it - she likes a dose of tower every once in a while rich: well, HERE'SD BOB! james: hey bob :) rich: cat';s got his tongue Dale: Hi Bob. rich: anywasy, I am sort of shopping for a new computer
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changed username to Guy B. rich: thinking in terms of maybe an Athlon 800 Guy B.: Greetings!!! rich: aha, now we have Guy too james: i'm thinking very much that my next personal machine will be a mac. maybe one of the g4 cubes. BobSlopsema: Hi DUDES!!!! Guy B.: Ok, who's thinking about an 800 Athlon? rich: bout time, Slopsema! rich: I am. What's a good motherboard? BobSlopsema: was busy....only a few seconds late anyways!!!! Guy B.: James, how was your trip to Canada? BobSlopsema: good motherboard for what computer????? james: it went very well bob :) kids had a great time and i'm not too much worse for wear myself. rich: one using an Athlon 800 james: a couple of new gray hairs, one of which i've named chiharu, after the 14 year old girl who was with us. BobSlopsema: don;t have the FAINTEST idea on that....... Guy B.: That's great. Good to have you back. rich: the Microstar K7T Turbo and Pro2A models seem to have good reviews Dale: I set up my buddy with an Athalon 800 and it screams. A very nice setup. rich: which motherboard did you use, Dale? Guy B.: My motherboard is an M800LMR. It will support Athlon Slot A from 500 to 850. james: pc hardware is all very nice, now if only we had an os that didn't suck half the life out of it. rich: yes, I can see why you want a Mac, and that G4 is a going machine BobSlopsema: that's the truth james rich: can you say Linux, James? rich: bet that's what Dale has on his buddy's machine Guy B.: By the way that new computer will finally be ready this weekend. Got my new 17" monitor. BobSlopsema: I can, but don't know what it means rich: about time, Guy. I expect you'll love the bigger screeen BobSlopsema: howmuch for the 17"?????? Guy B.: $99 from Tigerdirect. Now the price went down $10. rich: that must be pretty ancient then BobSlopsema: dat's as good deal.....ABC warehouse (outlet sutff out of Detroit) had them for $100 this week after rebate
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changed username to Meeka rich: hello Meeka Meeka: Hello. Guy B.: I picked up Saturday and it came in great shape. Guy B.: Hi Meeka. BobSlopsema: hello dear..........no trip to mom and dad tonight? Meeka: yes, we just got back Meeka: would have been back sooner, but got delayed by the tonado warning rich: ah, that big storm is into your area now, is it? Guy B.: You had a tornado warning! Nothing like that here in Chicago yet. But, it's raining pretty good here. BobSlopsema: no rain here, and just cancelled tornado watch rich: we're supposed to get it later tonight in Toronto BobSlopsema: GOOD you can have it! rich: they say fair amount of wind, rain and thunder but the big nasties will be spent Guy B.: We'll pass it on to you Rich. Dale: It was an Asus with a VIA chipset. The Asus ones are quite good. Meeka: in Kent City the sirens went off and we actually saw a little of the swirling clouds BobSlopsema: oops!!! still a watch I guess, no warning! rich: yes, Dale, I looked at teh review for the A7V group rich: they thought they were very neat but a tad pricey Meeka: we decide to get home befor we gat stuck out there rich: do you have a weatehr radio, Bob or Meeka? Guy B.: Guess the rough weather is heading your way Rich. Meeka: just a normal radio rich: oh, the weather radios sound an alarm when there is a tornado watch or warning BobSlopsema: none here BobSlopsema: comesa on the TV rich: if you're in tornado country or travelling into it, it is well worth having BobSlopsema: we got GREAT BIG sirens placed about and they blow them.....AND your ears off rich: yes, I've met them in the Dakotas Guy B.: Mine is a block away and our village install lightning warning systems on five different areas. rich: but the weather radios are still the best by far in our observation rich: our latest kick is that the Weather Office has put their Doppler radar online rich: you can follow a storm as it comes right into your living room Guy B.: You can view the radar on Yahoo. That's what I did before I came online. Most of the heavy stuff is north of me now. Meeka: Rich, thanks for the pictures. I did put them up, but I haven't had time to Quiz Mom and Dad as to the names of some people rich: right, ours is smaller scale, with teh antenna just northwest of Toronto rich: OK, and I've told Dale they are there if he wants to link or copy them to his site Guy B.: Dale, my website is now up. Do you have the address? rich: As I get the opportunity I will send you more too Meeka: ok. Jerry Vranks sent me some this week. I am still sorting through those. Dale: I haven't seen it yet Guy. Dale: What's the URL?
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changed username to Pamela Guy B.: It's http:\\members.core.com\~bonag\Index.htm Guy B.: Hi Pam. BobSlopsema: PEOPLE?????? WE DON'T KNW ANYONE.......... rich: ah, here's Pam now, james james: hi pam :) BobSlopsema: hi Pam! Pamela: Hi everyone Meeka: Hi Pam Pamela: Is there a reason why my ears are burning guys? rich: well, james was saying he wasw lonesome... BobSlopsema: YUP! Guy B.: Try again //http:members.core.com/~bonag/Index.htm Pamela: and . . .? james: so how have you been pam? Guy B.: By the way. I'm working on my first VBscript and a Visual Basic setup for running Dcopy from Windows. Pamela: Things are a mite busy at the moment Pamela: More to the point, how are you? james: not too bad. still a little jetlagged. Pamela: I can imagine. Pamela: Did you go face down on the bed like I predicted? james: not as bad as a few days ago though. james: very close to it, yes :D Pamela: So what's the date for next year? Pamela: ; )) james: yeah, uhmm here's the funny part, it might be this year. Pamela: You're gonna try it again? Brave soul. james: well, i know most of the ins and outs and could probably put it together in a matter of a few hours this time.. Pamela: Well, just let us know when - we'll be there! Pamela: Where'd everyone else go? rich: we're here, just letting you two say hello Dale: It looks good Guy. I just looked it over. james: i'm looking at august. i was originally looking at july and doing the calgary stampede but "forgot" that my brother james: would be here BobSlopsema: TV bulletin....2 inches of rain in less than 2 hours......headed your way Rich, Pam and Dale!!!! Guy B.: Thanks. I'll be adding two links to the main page by the weekend. One to Meeka's site and to Adamcon 13. Pamela: gee, thanks Bob - any more good news? rich: oh wwell, the van needs a wash BobSlopsema: not for the moment...... Meeka: there could be flash floods ;) Pamela: wash? It'll be floating! rich: though that hailstorm the other night gave it a pretty thorough power flush Guy B.: Your getting the brunt of it. Pamela: I was parked outside for that, too - didn't help much Pamela: Gee, maybe we won't have to go to work tomorrow - awww rich: just be glad you didn't get any hailstone dents - some of those iceballs were BIG Pamela: I didn't hear any hail - maybe we didn't get it here. BobSlopsema: rain wasn't here, Pam just north of us BobSlopsema: no hail reported there rich: we are apparently only supposed to get brushed by the northern edge of the system Pamela: Hope so. rich: mind you, it could be a nasty night in New York state Pamela: Why do I see a lot of claims in my future? Guy, are you supposed to get this? rich: Pam, try ec.gc.ca/weather.htm for full up to date info james: be back in a few minutes. they're doing construction here and have some questions. Pamela: heck, I'll just go and turn on the weather network. you could do that too, Dad Pamela: Don't be gone long, James
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changed username to Colecoguy BobSlopsema: MICHAEL!!!!!! Pamela: I love a mystery man rich: well, Michael finally makes it - hooray Pamela: Hi, Michael1 Colecoguy: Hello All Finally made it here!! Pamela: oops, ! Guy B.: Hi Mike. Glad you made it. Colecoguy: Thanks glad to see a great group amased rich: yes, we're doing fairly well tonight BobSlopsema: HUGE bunch of 'puter-ese people Colecoguy: So what's up with everone Colecoguy: y Guy B.: You can say that again. Pamela: Michael, there's too much silence from your end of the phone lately. Are we gonna do lunch soon? Colecoguy: Sure thats sounds like a good idea I'll call ya next week early in the day! Pamela: Okay, sounds good. rich: the Michiganders are busy ducking the weatehr we'll have in a fw hours Colecoguy: Oh major blast heading our way? rich: you mean you don't know? BobSlopsema: LOOK OUT TORONTO rich: still haven't sounded the all clear there, Bob? Colecoguy: Boom bang bang Boom a little thunder is always fun...specally if the floor shakes a bit! Pamela: I think we'r about to get drenched again. Colecoguy: Live in a apt house... rich: you're gonna have a real fun night then, Michael BobSlopsema: just tornado watch and flood watches Guy B.: My dog hates being in heavy rain. Monday morning was no picnic. Pamela: let's hope Russell gets home from work before it starts, or he'll be one wet puppy Colecoguy: Sounds like fun when do we expect it ?? BobSlopsema: ya sure! Pamela: Do we have a choice? rich: oh, in a couple of hours, I think Colecoguy: Ok I'll be aware rich: just had the weather radio on - the big stuff many stay just south of us Pamela: Bob, are you on the computer in the storm? Is that wise? rich: no problem as long as he has surge suppression, Pam BobSlopsema: no storm her, no rain hardly Meeka: Major part of the storm is north of us for now BobSlopsema: all just north about 40 miles Colecoguy: Ya Guy our old dog P.J. doesn't like the rain either, he tends to stand out front under the awning and look at ya like you don't want me to go out there do you! Guy B.: Got rain here in Chicago, but no lightning. Pamela: just close enough to be annoying Pamela: Funny thing is, Michael, I can picture PJ doing that Guy B.: Abby hates it. But, I try to get her to she needs to do then she steers me right around to head back home. Colecoguy: Ya don't cha know it's a really P.J. thing Pamela: Don't look at me, I have cats rich: yes, dogs have sense enough to come in out of the rain Pamela: As in, what rain? Guy B.: Abby can tolerate light and slightly moderate rain, but heavy rain? She's heading back home even before we start. Pamela: Cats have enough sense not to go out in the first place Colecoguy: Ya P.J. is getting to the point where now at lunch time he just goes out has a pee and back into the house for lunch... Pamela: PJ is such an old man Colecoguy: He is isn't he... Colecoguy: Kinda reminds me of grumpy old men BobSlopsema: more rain coming onshore to the west right now Pamela: Crotchety and set in his ways BobSlopsema: be here in about 30 or 40 minutes Colecoguy: you got it! rich: no, his body may creak but he's still a smart puppy Pamela: no arguments there Colecoguy: Yes he is at least to me! Guy B.: Abby turned seven in February and shows no sign of slowing down. Pamela: What breed, Guy? Colecoguy: Well P.J. is heading into 16 or 17 as of June 1st thats as close as I can get Guy B.: She's a mixed breed. Part sheperd and whippet. She's built like a one. Colecoguy: P.J. is boarder collie and scotish terrier Pamela: Aww, thats so cute. rich: like big and skinny, Guy? Guy B.: My sister has a border collie. 13 years old now. Colecoguy: Looks like a boarder collie but is a bit bigger that a terrier Guy B.: Abby is good shape and my vet says she's at a good weight for her age. Pamela: a bit??? Colecoguy: P.J. is way over weight...poor thing... thing is he has a wait problem he can't weight to eat!! rich: more border collie than terrier in him, to my eye rich: I think that's because he can't move around enopugh to exercise any more Pamela: It's those big pleading eyes - please Daddy, I'm soooo hungry! Colecoguy: Welcome to Pets One oh one rich: actually, what PJ wants is attention, not food Pamela: I've got some trouble with Willow at the moment - hyper thyroid and nothing will stay down. Ever tried to force-feed a cat? Colecoguy: Ithink if you lived here and where as whipped as lorne and I are you would quickly realize that P.J. is the one we have to say NO to!! Colecoguy: Thats not fun pam and yes I have when Brandy passed away a couple of years ago I and lorne went through just that Pamela: He's down to 6.2 pounds - if we can't get him to eat, we may have to hospitalize him and I'm afraid we're going to lose him. Colecoguy: Well we hope not rich: has the vet now decided his problem is the thyroid? he sure is one skinny cat Pamela: More skinny now than when you saw him last, Dad. You can see all the bones in his spine, his shoulders, his ribs and his hips Colecoguy: usually when it is thyroid they gain weight??!! rich: there's hyper and hypo thyroids, Michael Pamela: That's hypo thyroid - underactive. This is hyper thyroid, overactive metabolism Colecoguy: OH Ok mays sense rich: cat's always prowling - barel;y in teh same place two seconds running Pamela: Yup. Pamela: Doesn't have much energy recently though Pamela: Maybe we should have him trade glands with Inky for a while - there's a cat who it would do some good for rich: hey, we've lost james Pamela: James popped out about five minutes ago Guy B.: Probably his wife needed the phone. rich: that or the construction workers cut teh cable Pamela: Speaking of the west coast, where's Ron? rich: yes, he should be joining us about now Pamela: BTW, Dale, I really enjoyed putting a face to the name last week rich: he usually seems to make it on about 10 p.m.
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changed username to Exegete Exegete: Hello rich: hey, someone new! Guy B.: Well, it's not Ron. BobSlopsema: hello der!!!!! Pamela: Hello, there rich: welcome, visitor Exegete: The name is Roy Guy B.: Welcome Roy. Pamela: Welcome aboard, Roy Exegete: :) Meeka: hello rich: right - you wrote vabout teh mailing list? Exegete: Thanks Exegete: Yes Pamela: I love it - a speed typer rich: neat that you chose to drop by, then Exegete: :-) Exegete: I learned to type with Exper-Type Meeka: Where are you locaterd at? Exegete: Linocln, Nebraska Exegete: Or was that Expert-Type? Pamela: Obviously more effective than my eighth grade teacher rich: hey, the highest point on Interstate 80 Exegete: The program was by Coleco.... Exegete: for the ADAM Pamela: Dad, have I been to Nebraska? rich: we remember it well, in fact all likely have it rich: we just haven't been as ambitious as you in applying it1 Pamela: I can't remember BobSlopsema: yes, it tis a GOOD program for learning to typw, I tried it but couldn't stay with it BobSlopsema: got bored, maybe rich: yes Pam, it's on I-80 - remember teh trip to California? Exegete: Well, at the time (c. 1985) I was in grad school, and typed with four fingers, I really needed to learn the right way BobSlopsema: because I kneow how to type already Guy B.: I took typing in high school. BobSlopsema: it helps Roy Pamela: I got most of my practice at my job rich: everyoner I've talked to who has used Expertype says it's a really effective program Meeka: I still have to look at my finger in order to type correctly an d with any speed :) Exegete: I certainly sped up my production of papers for classes Exegete: Now, if I could only learn how to spell.... rich: yes, I gathered from the handle you were a teacher Pamela: Maybe that's why my essays were so lousy Exegete: :-) BobSlopsema: all you really need is to learn the finger spots BobSlopsema: and Expert type was good for tha BobSlopsema: t with it's repetitive practicing rich: me, I've always belonged to the search, discover and land school Pamela: the fastest four fingers in the west BobSlopsema: the WHAT?????? Pamela: two fingers on each hand, Bob Meeka: hunt and peck method rich: down, boy Guy B.: That's why! BobSlopsema: naw. you got to use all FIVE fingers!!!! Exegete: So, how is Lincoln the highest point on I-80? Pamela: He still hasn't taught his keyboard to spell, though Pamela: Thumb too, Bob? rich: by the way, Roy, if Dale hasn't added you to the mailing list yet, now's your chance to swear at im! BobSlopsema: moving upto the numbers was alwasy ny problem BobSlopsema: yup got to use the thumbs to hit the space bar rich: oh, I thought it was that your keyboard can't spell Meeka: just like the rest of the keyboard? :) Pamela: seems to be going around Exegete: I did enjoy when one of my profs said that papers couldn't be handed in from PCjrs, on that lousey thermal printer they had BobSlopsema: heck, he's sleepin' Exegete: but my papers on my ADAM were ok rich: yes, I still like the Adam for formal letters Pamela: real, letter quality printers have a lot going for them rich: the sort that end "and you will be hearing from my attorney" type Pamela: You have an atty? Exegete: LOL - my ADAM cost me $300, and the PCjr boys paid c. $900 for their setups rich: guess you got yours in teh selloff like the rest of us Exegete: Yup BobSlopsema: PREselloff Pamela: repeat after me, Dad -the-the-the rich: can't you tell I'm Canadian - eh, eh, eh,
Colecoguy left chat session Exegete: wish I still had all the stuff I once had... but I'm in the process of gathering again... BobSlopsema: heck they got down to $200 for the setup in MI Pamela: Lots of people to choose from here, Roy rich: well, all you need a few few disc drives, hard disc, memory expanders, Pamela: I think I'm the only one in the group who doesn't have one BobSlopsema: yes, Roy........oinly Guy, Meeka dn I are US, the rest are our Canadian freinds..... Guy B.: With some of those hard to come by. rich: that can be cured, Pam Pamela: I repeat, where would I put it? Exegete: Well, I have some games, and I'll be getting several systerms (or parts thereof) in a few weeks from a friend - a trade for my TI 99/4a loot BobSlopsema: oh geez, PAM, IF you ask DAD real nice, he will getyou one I am sure BobSlopsema: get rid of the cat and there will be lots of room Pamela: I just go and play on his instead - gives me a good excuse to go visit Pamela: Fortunately, the cats are moveable rich: unless they're on teh table, or something... Exegete: We had a Canadian student at the grad school - he seemed real lost in Mississippi rich: missed the snow? Exegete: but then, this Pennsylvania boy would have been too if my mom wasn't from the south Pamela: He didn't speak the language maybe? Pamela: Now, I do remember Pennsylvania rich: which part of Pennsy, Roy? BobSlopsema: that's IT Pam!!!! whenever we go south, they comment onthe "cute" way we talk.... BobSlopsema: and we talk english....... rich: you do? Pamela: LOL Exegete: I was born on the Delaware, lived in sight of Trenton NJ all my life rich: though you talked 'Murrican Exegete: and an ugly sight it was too Exegete: ;-) Pamela: So why Nebraska now, Roy? rich: OK, got you well placed now, Exegete: I work here now Exegete: I'm an exegete.... rich: yes, Trenton is the last place Pam's mother got lost while navigating the car BobSlopsema: which ias??????? Exegete: the last time you let her navigate? rich: high=-demand profession Exegete: I'm a minister Bob BobSlopsema: COOL!!! I got brother who is too! Pamela: Okay, question to the rest of the Americans - did you move away from your home town for job reasons? BobSlopsema: what denomination? rich: no, just gave her such a hard time she hasn't made an error since Exegete: Orthodox Presbyterian - we got kicked out of the large church in 1936... too conservative Pamela: I'll bet you turned left when she said right, Dad Exegete: You don't want to get lost in Trenton, believe me! rich: no, but we have been very suspicious of that particular map ever since BobSlopsema: my brother is Protestant Reformed.....have talked seriously with Pres church Exegete: Were you on I-95, or US 1? rich: this was a few years back, Roy - like around 1957-8 Exegete: Whoa, PR? Exegete: cool! Exegete: ;-) I was just a kid then rich BobSlopsema: well, Iwas also....but IF youhit 'em hard enough, they get some sense knocked ito them Exegete: so it was probably US 1 or US 13 BobSlopsema: he is in Gr MI now, was in Minn and WI rich: probably - road signing wasn't quite so effective then rich: the fact it was night and raining didn't help either Exegete: I went to Reformed in Jackson Mississippi, and served in Kansas and here BobSlopsema: some places the road signs sre STILL not effective BobSlopsema: we find that traveling with the motorhome Pamela: I hear LA is one of those places BobSlopsema: neat! BobSlopsema: the world is very small sometimes rich: well, 9 provinces and 44 stats later, she hasn't lost us since BobSlopsema: whoa!!!! don't even think about LA BobSlopsema: from what I hear it is a nightmare Exegete: Bob: I had pastored a Baptist and a Baptist-in-everything-but-name church before seminary rich: why not? if you're from Toronto, LA driving is easy Meeka: la is not that bad. I did it for a week BobSlopsema: that is tru Richard rich: remember, Pam, going to Disneyland? I could drive one hand on the wheel Pamela: so I've been told - my girlfriend was there a couple of years ago and she says if you want to go anywhere, you have to know what's on the way rich: on the freeway, in rush hour Exegete: and one hand on the pistol??? BobSlopsema: yes Roy, that is not far off either rich: no, they can't get near enough Pamela: Things have changed a bit in 25 years, Dad BobSlopsema: loved the hotel last year in toronto....our room faced the airport anfd the long line oftraffic to it rich: oh, LA was quite rough enough when you were there, Pam Exegete: my parents live between two little villages Yardley (founded late 1690s) and Washington's Crossing, where George proved he wasn't a sailor Pamela: I'm not talking rough, I 'm talking traffic rich: yes, but when teh traffic got serious you were in the convention rich: you missed all the real fun Exegete: Is ADAM's House a "safe" place to buy stuff? BobSlopsema: that was OK, even at night it was busy......like 11:30 at night.... BobSlopsema: ONLY IF you use your charge card Roy Pamela: Pearson - the airport that never sleeps BobSlopsema: better yet, ask Rich for what you need BobSlopsema: he's BETTER Exegete: great BobSlopsema: I know Terry and have bought stuff only he had, but be careful Exegete: I'll need to get set up again before I know what I want/need to buy rich: just drop me a line when you find out - we'll deal Exegete: Great! Exegete: I'll try to make the chats Pamela: Dale has any answers you may have questions for, too BobSlopsema: first off, visit my webpage ...... http;//corecomm.net/~slopsema .........and check out Rich's sale page BobSlopsema: then come on back and ask in person BobSlopsema: he's Canadian,......but you can trust him anyway...... BobSlopsema: ;-) rich: I'm cleechez@tamcotec.com BobSlopsema: oh. quit braging Richard! ;-) Exegete: BRB rich: that's just 'cause Dutchmen get along well in Canada BobSlopsema: ya know,,,,,,I think there a LOT of people out there just like Roy Pamela: How so? BobSlopsema: I get some inquires from time to time but most don't even follow thru BobSlopsema: there's a lot of them there Dutchmen in Canada, ya????? rich: yas Pamela: Yes, they like it here rich: you know the tulip festival every year in Ottawa? BobSlopsema: they have one????? rich: that/'s "thanks" fior playing host to the Dutch royal family during the war BobSlopsema: only one I knew about was here in Holland, MI and I think there is one in Iowa or somewhere rich: you want to see "thanks" that mean it, see Ottawa in the spring Meeka: they have one in North carolia too BobSlopsema: but Ottawqa is a little far to travel....now that the mighty Mitchell has moved Meeka: North Carolina BobSlopsema: nOrth CarOlina......... Pamela: Just think how much you'll get for your dollar, though BobSlopsema: that's new BobSlopsema: that's true.......... rich: also, it was Canadian troops that liberated teh Netherlands, at huge cost BobSlopsema: ESPECIALLY if I could stay with freinds! ;-) Pamela: It would be a seven or eight hour drive for you, Bob BobSlopsema: friends rich: actually you should take the motorhome, Bob Pamela: Maybe a little more, seeing as how your'e comin from the other side of Michigan rich: they have a really nice campground there BobSlopsema: FIRSt they have to bring the price of gasoline down rich: tell me about it - my van demands premium when towing BobSlopsema: it si getting high again BobSlopsema: OUCH! rich: even regular is 76.5 a ltre today BobSlopsema: that translates into.......$1.75 or so USD rich: multiply by 3.8 to get gallons (U.S.) Pamela: Talk about annoying - I went past the gas station on Tuesday at 5:00 and the price was 70.5 cents / litre - when I came back at 6:00, it had gone up to 76.5 cents / litre rich: then by 0.63 to get it in US dollars Guy B.: That's what we have for Midgrade here in Chicago. Give or take 4 cents a gallon. Pamela: I KNEW I should have filled up at 5:00 Exegete: Back, until my supper is ready.... BobSlopsema: $2.89 ????? that's outrageous rich: it's OK, we were discussing the price of gas rich: wasn't too fit for ministerial ears Exegete: A couple of items I know that I'm going to want to get in the future: Hackers Guide #1&2, and the tapes BobSlopsema: supper????? a little late there Roy Exegete: and the MacADAM assembler Pamela: Food - what a concept - why didn't I think of that? Exegete: Right on Bob, I slept right through supper BobSlopsema: even Nebraska is only a hour behind the rest of us BobSlopsema: :-) rich: Hackers Guide is hard to come by - I may have a used copy of #1, though Pamela: 9:30 there, right Roy? BobSlopsema: I might have a few also Exegete: I can bid on it on eBay, or ADAM's House is supposed to have one BobSlopsema: of Hackers Guide I mean Exegete: Right Pam Exegete: or do you prefer Pamela? Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to go here. Have to get my e-mail. I should be able to make it Saturday. Meeka: see you later Guy Pamela: Pamela on paper, Pam if you're talking to me rich: will look forward to it, Guy - 2 p.m. Chicago time Exegete: Bye Guy Pamela: Good night, Guy - same time next week Guy B.: Of course. BobSlopsema: byer GFuy BobSlopsema: farn dingers Pamela: For some reason, I have never liked the way "Pam Clee" looks on paper rich: need a course of expertype, Bob BobSlopsema: WHAT!!!! you go by two names?????? Guy B.: Careful there. See you all later.
Guy B. left chat session Pamela: More than two, actually. For some reason, my common-law husband's relatives seem to think I carry his name Exegete: Well, Pamela is a beautiful name, and I don't like shortened names, normally, except my own of course BobSlopsema: yup Pamela: I gotta tell you, I'm glad Dad got overruled. I could have been Fiona Grace. Exegete: Ahhh, here comes my beloved wife with my hoagie... rich: no comment Pamela: LOL, dad rich: hoagie - you can tell he's from Pennsy, can't you? Exegete: I wanted my first born son to be Abinadad Eleazar, but at the time I couldn't spell it BobSlopsema: OUCH Pam!!!!!! Exegete: :-) got that right rich Pamela: Probably a good thing, Roy rich: as in submarie, or grinder, or Italian hero, or... Exegete: or hoagie ;-) Pamela: Somehow, I just don't see me as a Fiona rich: all sorts of regional names for that Pamela: And Pam is very preferable to Fi Exegete: Fi Fie Fo Fum?? Pamela: Or other variations on a theme rich: oh, you'd likely have escaped the issue of abbreviation Dale: Jill's sister isn't Fiona, but Pheona. rich: or maybe just used Grace Dale: More like Pam than Fiona IMHO. BobSlopsema: as in "your grace" Rich?????? Pamela: That's a very different spelling, Dale - where did that come from? BobSlopsema: boy that would have been a mistake for you to name Pam that! rich: nope, a maternal grandmother Pamela: No, Bob, as in my maternal great grandmother rich: good Celtic name - but then, what's Dutch about Bob? BobSlopsema: ah so!!!! Exegete: So, does ANY one still do hard/soft ware projects for the ADAM anymore? rich: can we call you Piet instead? BobSlopsema: hey James never got back from Japan did he......... rich: let Dale answer that one
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BobSlopsema: ;-) Pamela: James, meet Roy - he's a newbie, so be nice to him james: no, they're doing construction up here in the house. mom-in-law is turning my study room into a closet and i get a new study room. james: hi roy :) Exegete: Hi James james: they needed to ask me some questions and questions always take awhile here. james: where are you from? rich: james is an old Adam hand just returned to the fold Exegete: nebraska Exegete: I had an ADAM in 1985-1994 rich: maybe you should say at teh moment, Roy Exegete: I should be getting another system in a few weeks Pamela: James, is the construction ever going to be done? rich: if you need any more, let me know, but you'll have to pay postage james: this is different construction. construction on the school has been done for over two months now. BobSlopsema: got the whole building up? Pamela: I meant construction in general, really. Must be like living in a war zone rich: thought you were already planning an addition? Pamela: BTW, how's Miyuki? james: no, no. school is done and i hope it stays that way at least until i get it paid for :) james: always something going on around here though. rich: Roy, james is teh man to talk to if you need a Japanese translation of the Logo manual james: miyuki's doing well, keeping buys. Exegete: Oh my - not too likely... Pamela: Did she go to work the day after you got home as she planned? james: speaking of which, i've been rather negligent. do hope to get back at it soon once i've moved to my new room. Exegete: now if he could help with my Greek or Hebrew... james: yes and slept for 12 hours that night. Pamela: Not surprised. rich: and teh night after, and the night after...??? Meeka: Roy, If you would like to have faces to go with the names, I have a site with past convention pictures. Almost everyone here is in them. Exegete: Great, thanks Meeka Pamela: Except myself, never having attended one Meeka: URL is http://adam.hollowdreams.com BobSlopsema: OOOOO, don't tell "Roy that!!!! then he would now us! BobSlopsema: ;-) rich: it's OK, I always hide in teh background so as to not scare the children and horses Pamela: Meeka, I tried that last week and couldn't pull it up. Has anyone else said anything? Exegete: try www.applelinc.com and some where in there are pics of the Apple club I restarted here meeting in my basement, including me Exegete: really terrible pics of m Exegete: me Meeka: I haven't heard of any Pamela: Dad's usually behind the camera rather than in front of it rich: Meeka. I also couldn't get your site last weekend Pamela: Okay, will try again this week james: better for the camera that way :D Exegete: So, how does one fix the fact that Pamela has never been pictured at a con? Meeka: I might have been updating it. I do that when ever I have had the chance to work on it BobSlopsema: just got there. works good rich: thanks, good buddy! Pamela: I have been pictured just about everywhere else - Dad was always taking my picture james: do what i can :) Pamela: Something to do with "Daddy, take my picture please" BobSlopsema: she HAS to come with Richard and Frances next year!!!! Pamela: I'm working on Russell, Bob. We'll see. rich: tell her, not us rich: we always have an extra seat in the truck Pamela: If I go, I will drive myself though rich: coward Exegete: It's coming up now Meeka Pamela: Absolutely. Meeka: go to ac 12 for the most recent pictures Pamela: Convoys are not out of the question, however Meeka: Some of the older convention pages are not done yet. BobSlopsema: Pam, take the FREE ride!!!! rich: maybe I should use teh Mighty Behemoth - if you could keep up BobSlopsema: it is only in cleveland area though Pamela: I'm the one with the lead foot, remember? rich: yes, of course - I'm always well behaved Exegete: There used to be a column in the Computer shopper by a woman from Florida, is she still active? Pamela: At least when you have the trailer hitched up rich: oh, that was Faye Deere - she sort of faded away when her husband died Pamela: I wouldn't speed in the US anyway - I have no interest in making the acquaintance of Ohio state troopers Exegete: Oh, I didn't know that her husband had died... BobSlopsema: no, but still with us...........in the flesh rich: though if we have an Adamcon in Ft. Walton Beach she will likely attend BobSlopsema: haven't heard anything from her in years Pamela: Isn't PJ in Florida too? Exegete: Faye had interesting columns rich: yes, but she's in Apopka (Orlando), not out in the pnahandle BobSlopsema: p[robably about ....oh.......96???? rich: yes, some of the things she had to say were even accurate Exegete: Pamela, my brother is a Pennsylvania State Trooper.... Pamela: Gimme a break, the last time I was in Florida I was four years old! Pamela: Then please put in a good word for me - I truly do have a lead foot. Exegete: in the days when the state license plate said "You've got a friend in Pennysvlania" Exegete: if some one was a pain Exegete: he'd had them their ticket Exegete: and say, BobSlopsema: AH HA!!!!! just looked at the pics of us at Pizza Hut.....memories....... Pamela: HAVE A NICE DAY rich: you should get him on our Saturday chat - Dave Compson is a Las Vegas policeman and so's his wife (ret.) Exegete: "Remember, 'You've got a friend in Pennsylvania'" rich: just not him? Pamela: One thing about the Ontario police, they don't bother you much unless you're doing 150 kms / hr or crazy stuff rich: one of our Adamcon hosts this year, George, is ex-Ohio trooper BobSlopsema: bet the ticket recipient LOVED that!!!! BobSlopsema: GK was a city cop wasn't he????? rich: by the way, Pam, heard from a certain Orlando Community Service Officer lately? james: ontario police are too soft. i'm quite frankly tired of being tailgated by some asshole when i'm doing 20k over the limit as it is. Pamela: Just a joke he passed along, nothing deep Exegete: Nice pic of you Meeka, with Bob and Doug - that is, once I get my bifocals on .... rich: no, George was a State Trooper - doesn't he look the part? Meeka: Doug is my husband and Bob's Son BobSlopsema: he DOES look the part, yes...... BobSlopsema: filthy rotten bunchof relatives, eh, Roy? ;-) Pamela: There is a limit to how much they will put up with. rich: now, you don't move over, you get the ticket, james Exegete: So Meeka, who drags whom to the Con??? Exegete: :-) james: sure, they can send it to me here :) Meeka: it is had to tell sometimes BobSlopsema: if you drive like you are on the sidewalk James......DON'T use the fast lane!!! Pamela: The whole Slosema family gets into the act - Judy goes too Meeka: that's hard to tell rich: oh, the kids always want to check up on what the old folks are up to Exegete: I've been wanting to go to KansasFest (for Apple II people) but my wife will kill me if I drag her there... BobSlopsema: too bad we can't say the same aobut he Clee family, right Pam??? BobSlopsema: ;-) Pamela: Until recently Bob, I didn't have a way or the means to get there Meeka: Judy is Bob's wife BobSlopsema: about the....... Pamela: Also, Russell works shifts and it's hard to time it right Pamela: He only gets every third weekend off BobSlopsema: and, and, and, we were even in Toronto last July and ya didn't come :-( rich: you could go alone Pamela: Yes, but who would keep me warm at night? BobSlopsema: we is SAD!!!!!! Meeka: take the cats :) rich: in July? BobSlopsema: turn up the heat! Pamela: Last year I didn't know you and though I did think about dropping in, I didn't want to impose Meeka: no excusse Pamela: Next time in T.O. for sure, but possibly this July if I can swing it BobSlopsema: hey kids....gotta go for tonight....Judy is beckoning......nice to meet youRoy; come BACK!!!! see ya all later!!! Meeka: see you later dad Pamela: G'nite Bob Exegete: Night Bob BobSlopsema: POOF!!!! SHAZAM!!!!! GONE!!!!! Exegete: I'd better head for the bed too rich: OK Bob, give our best to the better half and see you next week Exegete: Good night all, and it was nice to meet you
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changed username to rich rich: made it back - you still here? james: in part :) rich: I think I know what you mean - I got dumped hard rich: had to close my browser and restart from square one james: well, at least you didn't have to reboot :) james: ntt will finally be dropping the $900 phone line installation fee. rich: oh no. did it get you too? and that hard? james: ... in 2006.. :( james: no, i'm okay here. rich: oh great, competition comes to Japanese telecommunications rich: perhaps your alternative project will pan out before then? james: yeah, big competition. i think i can still make a good go of it. my partner will be coming in june. rich: and I'll bet you are counting the days rich: can you do any preliminary work on infrastructure before then? james: indeed. i may swallow my pride and order a phone line but i'll be sure to let them know that all of my carriers will be their james: competitors. james: at least that option is available now. rich: be grateful for small blessings rich: a small question about Japanese ways rich: Europeans tend to have "general" words as names - Greenfield, Boisvert, Ferrari, etc. james: shoot rich: are Japanese nasmes made up similarly? james: i think so. for example, a common name, "moriyama" is made up of "mori" - forest and "yama" mountain. etc.. rich: can I guess that even the syllables - mo/ri/ya/ma might have had historic individual significance? james: probably not, most japanese readings for common words are two syllables. most words are no more than 4 syllables long. rich: a very concise language, then. does that make it easy to learn? james: i wish. :) rich: once you have the vocabulary, how are the rules of grammar? james: with a basic writing system of 2000 characters, most of which have at least two readings and some of which have many more james: it takes awhile. james: grammar for any language is easy for me, so i'm not sure but it's post positional, meaning that there are small particles that james: describe the function of the word *preceeding*. rich: yes, I can see why that might be teh case - how do you separate the meanings? rich: OK, guess "see above" rich: one might draw a parallel to the Latin and German habits of putting verbs at the end rich: or perhaps the German compounding, and prepositions james: japanese verbs also come at the end of a sentence. james: you spend most of your time waiting for the verb. rich: yes, I've always wondered how - and why - the Germans put up with it james: well, changing a language is hard to do i think. you can't just get everyone to agree all of a sudden to doing something rich: the Romance languages owe a big debt to Latin, but they got out of that habit fast james: so ingrained differently. rich: rather like metric conversion james: yeah, english too. the whole "let'S force latin rules on english" didn't work very well i think. rich: I have heard it said that English is one of the hardest of languages to learn rich: and teh explanations I've heard as to why make sense james: i can certainly say it's one of the hardest to teach. it's so inconsistent. rich: quite - hard on both james: nothing sounds like it's spelled, verbs are irregular, it goes on. rich: I remember Edith Guild, a Spanish prof at York, spending all year dreading the introduction of irregular verbs rich: she hasd the kids coasting along in a real easy language - then ZAP james: at least english doesn'T have noun gender. now there'S one pice of grammar any language could do without. rich: I sort of sense that teh French are more and more disregarding it in many cases james: they should. call it cultural ignorance, but it's stupid. rich: basically, anything that diminishes the effectiveness of a tool is dumb rich: and language is a tool for communication - unnecessary barriers aren't rational james: i think some english verbs are being slowly regularized too. i've actually seen the past tense of sleep written james: as "sleeped" and not "slept". it's what you grow up with and are accustomed to hearing. "sleeped" is technically more correct james: if you ask me. rich: technically, yes, but that's one that will be slow to change james: sure, but it will happen. maybe not in my lifetime but eventually. rich: moer common is to treat plural nouns as singular - data, media, etc. james: what english really needs is a new alphabet. 42 characters, not 26. you could write everything without spelling exceptions or james: convocated rules. james: that and nouns and verbs increasingly being used as the other. rich: oh, John Dewey thought 26 was more than necessary, as I believe did George Bernard Shaw rich: they were strong advocates of speeling reform - read simplification james: have you ever seen the shavian alphabet? rich: don't recall that I have; it would have been a bunch of years ago rich: being a librarian, I was more aware of Dewey james: it's 42 characters. it wasn't actually designed by shaw. he had it commissioned for someone to develop an alphabet and the winner james: has thus far been called the shavian alphabet. voiced sounds (d, g, b vs t, k p) are written the reverse of their unvoiced counterparts. rich: I rather feel that I'd prefer to deal with the odd diphthong than 16 more letters james: i guess with my background in japanese, 16 more letters would be trivial. rich: figures rich: anyway, hate to spoil the fun, but I've still got some stuff to do tonight james: it's what you grow up with i guess. if we'd had the 16 letters to start with, it wouldn't even be a topic for discussion. rich: so I am going to have to pack it in very shortly james: yeah, i'm off to lunch and to take a nap. rich: OK, trust you'll be with us next week? james: i'll do my best. should be in my new study room by then too :) rich: Neat. We'll say goodnight for now then james: ciao for now! rich: Bye james: *poof*
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