scott: Hello... scott: Guess I'm the only one here...
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changed username to rich WB: Hello Rich and scott! rich: well, hello all! rich: seems qwe both arrived at the same time WB: How are you doing Rich?
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changed username to Meeka rich: ghello Meeka Meeka: Hello WB: Yes I am Willie! rich: I did manage to get on your site Meeka: what did you think? WB: HelloMeeka! rich: Willie, have you looked at the rogues gallery on Meeka's site yet? WB: Yes I have! rich: She still hasn't got the pictures up that I sent her from Adamcon 03 WB: All in do time I guess Meeka: ya ya I am working on it. I do have 3 site's to maintain you know rich: Considering teh time I spent finding them, scanning them and editing them, naturally I expect them up the same day rich: what are the other two sites, Meeka? Meeka: a personal one that has family photos Meeka: and I am creating one that is for my cross stitching hobby rich: neat -Pamela and Gillian will be looking forward to that, maybe Frances too rich: pity you can't find a way to let us add identifications directly rich: writing down a number, writing down the name, then writing an email is tedious and error prone scott: Hello all. scott: I was away writing an e-mail. WB: Hello Scott! rich: aha, he's awake scott: Rich, I talked with my dad, and he says there's still a part to replace. Meeka: I know. I m working on it, but me and my book for Dummies can only work so fast. scott: Didn't sound like anything major, but I have been reminding him to get it done like I said. rich: gee, sometimes I get my personal projects finished within the same decade (but not alwasy) scott: I don't know why he's been soooo slow. rich: anyway, Scott, your efforts are very much appreciated scott: I would like to learn how to do repairs myself
moved to room Meeting Place scott: Would prepare me for the computer engineering that I want to pursue as well.
changed username to BobSlopsema scott: Hello Bob. rich: pity you can't get the old man to teach you, but I reckon he's pretty busy WB: Hello Bob! BobSlopsema: hi peo;le! BobSlopsema: people....... rich: hi Bob - just telling Meeka I got to her site BobSlopsema: long time no see Willie! scott: Last time I asked, he told me there's a ton of things I'd need to know before he'd even begin to teach me. WB: Work keeps me busy! scott: But I can ask him what those are and take classes so that one day I can become... the man! WB: In fact I am at work right now! rich: yes, in electronics there's a lot of basic theory you have to pick up first scott: WB, sorry who are you? scott: Willie? WB: Hello Scott I am Willie Burnside WB: Otherwise known as WB scott: I'd also like to learn how to design expansion boards for my favorite computer!!! scott: Well, welcome Willie... scott: Nice to make your acquaintance.
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changed username to Pamela scott: Room's getting full. WB: The pleasure is all mine scott: Hi Pam. rich: hello daughter scott: No, tis all mine! Pamela: Hi everyone WB: Hello Pamela Meeka: hi pam scott: And mine... Pamela: Willy, long time no see! WB: Good to be here! rich: yes, it's early and already we've got a great crowd Pamela: I can't stay for long - I HAVE to get some sleep WB: Sleep ? What's that? Pamela: Yeah, that's the proble Pamela: m rich: by teh way, Pam, got your email and your mother and I enjoyed teh laughs Pamela: Yes, some of those were rather good, weren't they? BobSlopsema: sleep....that which deprived peopledo not know as a friend......... rich: oh, it's great stuff - recommend it to anyone Pamela: says the retired one Pamela: the older I get, the less hours there are in a day rich: right, and don't think it isn't about time! Pamela: or is that fewer scott: Cooking a pizza, but I am back... rich: you mean you don't order in? Pamela: Some of us actually do make pizza at home, Dad scott: Cheese and sausage, for those who must know. Pamela: You should try it sometime scott: $1.50 from Albertsons... Pamela: As long as there are no anchovies, I'm in scott: The pizza Gods... rich: a small one, then scott: I've got extra, if anyone's interested. Pamela: Send it this way scott: But you probrably won't see it until ADAMCon... scott: :( rich: I tend to favour Pizza Hut's meat lover's special Pamela: : (( rich: but I haven't had a good pizza feed yet this year scott: Are there any ADAM repair people around these days?? Pamela: Too much salt in Pizza Hut's pizzas rich: yes, Howard Pines down in Florida WB: Meat Lover's! A man after my own heart! BobSlopsema: I switched to Pizza hut's hawaiian pizza mit da pineapples and bacon scott: Twisty Crust... scott: God's gift... Pamela: For all the men in the crowd, try this on for size: Veggies! BobSlopsema: NO WAY!!!!! scott: Blasphemy!!! rich: bite yer tongue! Pamela: Yes way - it really works, believe it or not WB: What are those? BobSlopsema: got to have crispy cow or pig on there somewhere!!!! Pamela: moo or oink is okay, but you gotta balance it out scott: How about... mexican pizza... Taco Bell... rich: actually, Frances always wants the Veggie Lovers scott: Yum... yum! Pamela: Where I come from they call those quesadillas and they have veggies in them rich: I tried Taco Bell once but wasn't impressed scott: So, Rich. Who, besides yourself of course, repairs ADAM hardware these days... Pamela: I have to admit to enjoying the "Bacon Double Cheeseburger" pizza from Pizza Pizza occasionally BobSlopsema: with say pineapple....or green pepper.....or.....or Pamela: dare you say it Bob - mushrooms! rich: scott, your man is Howard Pines of Oscar's Computers in Fort Walton Beach, FL rich: don't be surprised if he hosts teh 2002 Adamcon scott: Is he still active?? scott: Guess so... BobSlopsema: OK, mushrooms!!!!! well done Pamela: I approve of anyone who likes pineapple on their pizza BobSlopsema: well.......Howard is around.........get email from him occasionally rich: yes, I don't know how he does it, having to cope with Elizabeth's MS and all scott: Sega just recently made an interesting piece of hardware. rich: what's that? scott: Their console, the Dreamcast, was reduced more or less to a single chip design and implemented in set top boxes. scott: Which got me thinking (oh no!) BobSlopsema: hurt did it???? ;-) Pamela: ( I knew I smelled something burning) scott: What if we had the Coleco ADAM on a chip solution. rich: hey, then I could take a computer with me in the trailer scott: Now we already have the emulator, so it's usefullness would be questionable. Pamela: Mom would never forgive you rich: oh, as long at it had a screen, and some sort of printer, she'd love it BobSlopsema: meaning???? the whole ADAM on a single chip doing its thing??? Pamela: You're supposed to be getting away from it all, remember? scott: But you could get it to run with a Ez80 chip and enable it to share PC devices. rich: maybe so, but she keeps muttering about a laptop for writing letters... BobSlopsema: right, you can NOT have a true vacation UNLESS you have computera long to relax with pam Pamela: Don't tell Russell that, okay? rich: now if someone will just write an Adam version of Free Cell... scott: It could be 100% compatible, but again it's more of a subject of discussion than a project. Meeka: that's what Doug thinks too. We never leve the house without the laptop. :) Pamela: My husband, the computer game addict scott: Any ideas there? rich: we're thinking... Meeka: my husband is an on-line game addict Pamela: I see the idea fairy has left town scott: You could have a video output from the board so that your monitor could be a developer's environment and the other output would be the ADAM. rich: oh, do you have a high-speed connection? Meeka: 2 isdn lines Pamela: two? scott: I bet Dale could come up with some good Pro's and Con's if he was here... Pamela: I was just thinking that Meeka: yes TWO rich: sure makes our dinky dialup look puny scott: Coleco ADAM on a chip would be a neat thing, though. scott: We could have the ADAM installed in a laptop. rich: I agree with you on that BobSlopsema: basically an ADAMemulator on a single ibm compatable computer chip...small, compact easyto use and internet accessable....GREAT!!!! Meeka: now he is talking about cable modem too. Pamela: that's scary scott: Yes, a hardware emulator. Hmmm.... rich: but getting a TI9918 to support an 800x600 display might be tricky ;-) scott: With an embeddable hardrive. scott: And say, 2 MB of RAM. scott: Perhaps a couple of ROM chips of all of your favorite software... Pamela: Keep talking Scott scott: 2 MB of expansion RAM, that is... WB: No Cartridge slot? BobSlopsema: ya can't have EVERYTHING Willie! :-) rich: yikes! Willie's shot us down aggain Pamela: Gotta be a cartridge slot so we can play Donkey Kong Jr. scott: One could upgrade the Word Processing so that the onboard chip is the latest and greatest... rich: he's right - what's an Adam without a cart slot? scott: Wouldn't need a cartridge slot. scott: You'd just need a ROM image of the game. scott: You would need joystick ports, though. rich: true - they aren't hard to come by Pamela: So is this gonna be ready for ADAMCon? Pamela: ; ) scott: However, those joysticks really hurt the hands. WB: Are all the coleco roms public domain? rich: well, there are aftermarket joysticks for the Adam scott: Perhaps there are some similar joysticks on the market that have a numeric keypad??? rich: no, almost all Coleco ROMs are still commercial
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changed username to Ron Pamela: Hi, Ron Meeka: hi ron Ron: evening WB: hello ron rich: hello Ron - missed you last week scott: Hi, Ron. Ron: how is all? WB: fine Pamela: All is good - want some pizza? Scott has leftovers Ron: cousin's from Charlottetown/Edmonton rich: Willie, you're entitled to make a copy of anything for your own use Ron: had to console the former re snow he had to return to scott: Obviously, the "Coleco ADAM on a chip" idea needs more time to think over. rich: so as a matter of convenience, we all have ROM images - of the carts we own, of course Pamela: It's got some merit - keep thinking scott: Dale was telling me about these embeddable hardrives that could be used with the ADAM. scott: Last he looked, they were a little expensive. Ron: Interesting WB: What about hooking up a 250MB zip drive scott: I believe the maximum hardrive one could have would be a 65 MB drive anyway. rich: yes, and in teh computer context, if Dale thinks they're expensive, be afraid - be very afraid scott: The ADAM on a chip could use ALL of the PC's hardware. Ron: correct Scott. Because of the system's mathematics Ron: Who's proposing this? rich: didnt Dale say something about a partitioned hard drive being visible to Adam as two drives? Pamela: Scott's brilliant idea Ron: yes, there's a MOUNT program that Guy Cousineau wrote that could swap partitions scott: I (gulp) was the originator of the idea. scott: But it is just an idea. Ron: Away put your weapon. I mean you no harm scott: My dad was saying that an ADAM could be connected with up to 16 hardrives or something like that. Pamela: that's a lot of partitions Ron: sure there must be a way of doing something like a virtual segmentation rich: how about an interface that would accept an LS-120 drive? scott: I forget. But if you could have one logical embedded drive and fool the operating system into thinking it's 16 65MB drives rich: then each 120MB disc could have two 60 MB partitions rich: and you could have as many discs as you could find programs to fill scott: Well... you get the idea... Ron: Meanwhile, here in the snake pit Ron: the population is about to be seriously culled Pamela: things are getting snakey? BobSlopsema: got a rattler???? rich: oops - what have you been up to now, Ron? BobSlopsema: oh, oh....... Ron: Sunday next the local's are having a "hazardous materials disposal day". They've specified old computers may Ron: be brought for recycle rich: but teh Timex hardly takes up any room at all!! Ron: :) BobSlopsema: and the ADAM still works BobSlopsema: and the old 8088 still smokes alittle, but works..... Ron: yes. No ADAMs will be so treated Pamela: I thought you were using them for boat anchors, Ron rich: and how could anyone abandon a Commodore 64? scott: So, you could have the ADAM Emulator Hardware with an embeddable hardrive and expansion RAM of 2 MB. Ron: phoned to ask if one person could bring as many as 20 systems Pamela: Twenty???? Ron: and they said - bring 'em on baby! BobSlopsema: hokey smokey!!!!! Ron: That still leaves me with 7 or 8 Pamela: Okay, Dad I take it back - your morgue has nothing on Ron scott: Could have some EPROMs with all of the documentation and Public Domain programs that have ever been written. BobSlopsema: I take it these are all dead hulks stripped of good stuff, etc Ron: Guess they've got a contractor in Vancouver who's agreed to do meltdowns rich: you'll never eb able to cope with the withdrawal symptoms Ron: Hey, I didn't say this was going to be easy BobSlopsema: no cryin' now, hear???? Ron: Let's just say I'm under a certain amount of pressure to DO SOMETHING Pamela: Just think of all that free space you'll have to fill with new ones rich: don't egg him on-- Ron: my criteria was anything that has not been powered up in the past 6 months Pamela: Like he needs encouragement BobSlopsema: no, Pam.....other old ones........ rich: you have some like that? Ron: yes.... in fact, BobSlopsema: well that makes me in the area of throwin out nuthin........ Ron: I'm becoming somewhat jaded in my old age WB: Anyone want a mattel Aquarius Ron: If it ain't pentium or PPC it don't get much use Pamela: A what? scott: I also had an idea of creating a VB application where you could create software and have it converted into a binary that would execute on the ADAM. Ron: Macintosh Power PC scott: Of course, it's only time, right? BobSlopsema: tha part we might jsut like Scott Pamela: Exactly, Scott BobSlopsema: what's VB???? scott: Visual Basic. WB: Mattel Aquarius! Ron: Visual Basic Ron: Microsoft BobSlopsema: darn!!!! knew that would mean I have to learn somthing rich: watch your language, Mitchell Pamela: Is that the pre-Hot Wheels version, Willie? Ron: :) WB: It was a computer created by Mattel. They named it the Aquarius. scott: I was playing around with VB the other day using it to create HTML pages out of simple database structured information. Ron: somewhere around the age of Intelevision? Pamela: I thought I'd heard about them all but that's a new one WB: I have acquired three of them. rich: Atari we remember well, but a Mattel computer is a new one scott: And I was thinking that it wouldn't be too difficult to convert it into a text file that could be converted with 22disk WB: The age of Aquarius scott: then brought over to the EOS environment. Pamela: Scott, you just started speaking Greek rich: that's geek, daughter BobSlopsema: naw, had one oncest, but Doug sold the sucker to someone......had TI (early too with all the bells-kid sold that one too!) Pamela: same difference WB: It comes with MS Basic and has its own tape recorder and printer. WB: Software comes on cartridge and tape. Ron: seems to me there'd be a lot of re-writing Scott. Is VB BASIC -like in it's command syntax? rich: and not even formatted tape - the old slow stuff Ron: I have version 5 here, but have never used it scott: Yes. VB has some similarities to SmartBASIC. Pamela: Sounds like an ADAM wannabe, willie Ron: oh really? scott: But a heck of a lot more powerful. WB: Has a mini expander with extra memory in the form of cartridges 4K and 16K. Has a slot for cartridges. Ron: well yes I'd imagine rich: yes, teh security folks say take it off your computer rich: if you get a VBS file attachment, don't run it Ron: Ok..question... WB: Very little sofware is available for it and it is not Intellivision compatible scott: I don't write those type of attachment, BTW. Ron: what's the difference between Visual BASIC and VB Script? rich: I should hope not, Scott WB: Visual Basic is a full blown programming langauge that produces stand alone applications scott: VB Script is a dummed down subset of Visual Basic to run in browsers, most notably for scripting in ASP. Ron: thank you Pamela: there's that geek again WB: Vb Script is mainly used for web browers scott: Don't get it confused with VBA, which is primarily used to manipulate MS Office. Pamela: sorry, Greek Ron: Geek, Greek, whatever scott: Or is it GEEK??? WB: VBA-Visual Basicx for Applications. A superset of Visual Basic Pamela: I'm still confused Meeka: I get to listen to this kinda "greek" all the time Pam. scott: You can think of VB Script as MS's attempt to compete head-to-head with JavaScript. Pamela: Unfortunately, I don't have anyone who speaks it Ron: Poor Meeka rich: some of it must be sinking in, Meeka WB: VBA is the programming language for MS Office applications Meeka: well, kinda Pamela: Except Dad, and I can't listen to him all the time rich: you are after all doing up three websites Meeka: I recognize all of the abbrevations and sometime know what they mean Ron: How did the get together with James go? Meeka: but a lot of it is still greek to me rich: terrific Pamela: Went well, Ron. We had a lot of fun Ron: great! scott: VB's a pretty good entry level programming language. rich: he was apologetic about not having enough time to talk scott: It is easy to learn and can be used professionally. rich: we were amazed he made so much time considering what he had to cope with Pamela: I'm still learning plain Basic scott: You can make some really nice applications with it. Ron: been on my 'roundtuit' list for some time. I've got the 'idiots' version of 5 and a freebie 6 working compiler model Pamela: Speaking of whom I was supposed to send him an e-mail and forgot rich: and some not so nice ones - hit a malicious website that messed me up real good scott: If your work offers Academic Reimbursement, take a class. Ron: spending too much time tearing apart old gear. This has got to stop scott: That's what I did. Got the books, tuition and software reimbursed 100%!
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changed username to Guy B. Pamela: Work does, but it has to relate specifically to my job Ron: Mr Bona I presume rich: yes, but us retirees don't have that option WB: Hello GuyB Guy B.: Well, I'm here. Meeka: hello scott: Hello Guy. Pamela: Hi, Guy rich: hello Guy, you're late tonight Ron: wha, doing something useful? rich: Pam, Meeka is in teh process of setting up a cross-stitch site BobSlopsema: misteer Guy!!!! Allo !!!!!! BobSlopsema: whassup??????? Pamela: Cool! URL, please Guy B.: Rich, I had to run out to a vendor tonight. I have two PCI soundboards for the two towers I got from Bob and I couldn't get one of them to work. Meeka: it is still under construction. Meeka: will let you know when I have it done Pamela: As soon as you're ready, let me know. Ron: Watch it Guy.... you too could be bitten rich: you don' rich: t use "www" as part of her URL Pamela: Just finished a piece for friends who got married recently and a needlepoint piece for myself rich: that's why I couldn't get on it scott: Well, the "ADAM on a chip" sounds like good material for an article. Pamela: next up is a baby announcement scott: Rich, what is the newsletter that is still active??? rich: definitely, Scott - go for it Guy B.: Well, I talked to someone there and he says he can get them working. I told him, I'll try again and if I can't get them to work I can bring the towers in and he can get them to work. rich: the MTAG letter - talk to Ron or Dale Pamela: Since the baby is due at the end of May, I have to get cracking scott: I'll talk to Dale. Need to anyway. He'll also have plenty of ideas. Ron: I have volunteered..... (pass the roundtuits) scott: Well, gotta go and do homework. Got classes finishing up, then I get to jump into CISCO. Meeka: should be now problem. plent of time till May. Right?? rich: don't forget a copy to Bob for the ANN disc scott: :( Ron: yeah Scott, go acquire some knowledge Guy B.: See you Scott. Don't study too hard. WB: goodnight scott rich: take it easy, Scott, see you next round Pamela: Actually, it shouldn't be too bad - it's a Pooh piece and mostly solid colours scott: I won't forget about the ANN disk. scott: Later. Pamela: G'nite Scott
scott left chat session BobSlopsema: see ya Scott BobSlopsema: gotta find some time and catch up on putting the ANN issues ont he web Meeka: I am currently working on pillows for my living room Ron: Don't forget Tigger rich: yes, I did find teh link from Meeka's site to yours WB: Rich, are your catalog prices in Canadian amounts and do you accept money order not the post office kind Ron: and the donkey....what's his name? BobSlopsema: think the last is the Dec issue...... Ron: Eor? Pamela: No, Tigger is for the next piece - this one is strictly Pooh - that's the theme for the baby's room Guy B.: Ok gang. I'll be having an update to my website shortly. First one will be two links and an update to the VBscript file. Meeka: eore Ron: aha! rich: Willie, I think you likely have my US price list Pamela: The donkey is Eeyore rich: to check take any US dealer's price and mine should be $1.00 more because I quote delivery included, not extra Pamela: Needlepoint pillows or cross stitch, Meeka? rich: and yes, I take personal cheques if you're willing to have shipment held till they clear - about 10 days Meeka: cross stitch. But I would like to learn needlepoint one of these days rich: or you can use any third-party method for immediate shipment Ron: sign up for pay-pal WB: What US dealer? The only one I know of is Coleco House. rich: look at any old newsletter from any club or dealer - NIAD for instance Pamela: Its actually much faster and I find somewhat easier too. I have a really beautiful pattern for pillows that I got from a magazine recently Pamela: If I don't make it to Adamcon, I will send it with Mom and Dad Meeka: how different is it from cross stitch? rich: can't get Pay-Pal in Canada at the moment, Ron Guy B.: Did you guys hear about the settlement involving the Iomega Zip drives? Ron: send me pity guys Ron: I have to look at political candidates for the next 28 days rich: they're cutting a deal with one of the banks and are on hold till it gets done WB: yes to the Zip Pamela: Two things - the canvas is different - bigger holes, and if you visualize doing half stitches, that is what needlepoint really is rich: I didn't - what's the word? Pamela: PITY PITY PITY Meeka: half stitchs are easy Ron: :) tks Guy B.: I got an email from Iomega about the settlement. It involves rebates on future purchases from Iomega's website. Meeka: no wonder it is faster BobSlopsema: Willie, just look upthe pricing @ my website, then eamil Richard to confirm pricing! (might be a little outdated, don'ty know) Pamela: exactly - that's why it's so much faster rich: nope, it's still on the same cost base, Bob, so the price holds rich: as long as I still have it in inventory rich: if I have to offer a used copy from my own stock, that's different WB: Does the name Don Bueltmann ring a bell to anyone? Pamela: I started a 6 inch square piece on the Sunday that James came in, and finished it tonite Ron: yes. Former member of St. Louis ADAM User Group Guy B.: Isn't he the guy that was giving away free Adam software? rich: yes, wasn't Don with teh St. Louis group? Ron: recently heard from him - he was selling some ADAM gear I think Meeka: brb. got to let the dog out. Pamela: ok BobSlopsema: absolutey! Ron: Who let the dog out? Pamela: Ron, you watch too much TV! BobSlopsema: yes, he wan'ts to sell of some stuff, have emialed back with no replies
(A dog howls in the distance) Ron: Woof Woof - Woof Woof Guy B.: Rich, Ron. I have two VBscript programs that I just completed on my notebook that involves Eosdisk. BobSlopsema: and now the dog won't come bvack??????? WB: He sent me some of the software and several manuals including the ASG. Rich do you still own the copyright for the ASG and do you have any other copies. Pamela: damn dogs rich: I hold the copyright in t5rust for ANN jointly with the other tow rich: and yes, I believe I still have a copy or two left (orrather ANN has in my care) Meeka: ok. i'm back Guy B.: That was short. rich: must be as cold there as it is here Meeka: sometimes I get lucky :) Pamela: But it's been such nice weather for February WB: Has anyone had any dealings with Coleco House ie Terry Fowler? rich: hey, don't knock it - I managed to get the Christmas lights down yesterday Ron: I won't say it ..... about lawn cutting, flowers and blossoms Pamela: shut up, Ron Ron: I know, I know Meeka: I have flowers blooming in my yard Ron: snow drops? rich: Willie, I suggest you ask Herman and George in Cleveland that question Pamela: Everywhere you look the daffodils and crocii are shivering Meeka: hyathincs, dafidiols, and tulips are on there way Guy B.: I ended up having snow here on Monday. Ron: they'll make it BobSlopsema: yes, willie......BUT buy from Richard FIRST......then Terry and USE your credit card....and don't ASSUME ANYTHING as to product rich: yes, our crocuses have been up for some time, and teh daffodils are up and budding Ron: there's life in the east Pamela: Believe it or not BobSlopsema: let's say, Teryy has been known to stretch the truth and the copyright laws, etc rich: another four weeks and we should be out of hibernation rich: at least down here in teh banana belt Pamela: I hope it's closer to two - we're supposed to go to the trailer next weekend WB: You mean he has been known to copy software and sell it as original? Ron: NO! Meeka: they are saying it should get around 70 this weekend around here Guy B.: Same here for Chicago. Pamela: Send it this way, Meeka - we could use it rich: Willie, hlm-gmk.com has words on the subject you may find helpful Pamela: Of course in July, we'll all be moaning about how hot it is Meeka: Pam, Did you ever make it on to my site? Pamela: I haven't had a chance to try again but I will, probably tonite rich: just leave out the www and you'll be OK Meeka: I am thinking you might be having the same problem your dad did. rich: see all your old man's neat photos Meeka: You can not use the www in the address Pamela: Between work, physiotherapy and a suddenly active social life, I'm lucky to get on this thing once a week Meeka: It wont work that way. Pamela: I tried it without the www but it didn't work WB: Well good people it is time for me to go home and see the family before I go to bed. Rich are you still meeting on Saturdays Meeka: Type it in like floolws http://adam.hollowdreams.comm Ron: good to hear from ya WB Pamela: There's that sleep thing again rich: yes, 3 pm Eastern and I wait 15 minutes for anyone else to show up Guy B.: See you WB. Ron: To sleep, aye.. WB: Good night all!
WB left chat session Pamela: Good nite Willie Ron: Ok.... yes... back to Saturdays Pamela: Meeka, I wrote that down - will try again Ron: must remember......remember.....remember BobSlopsema: Willie, THAT IS THE STORY I heard....from some reliable sources.........mind you- one scource related that it did not say "original" int he description Pamela: write it on your forehead, Ron rich: remember....remember.... rich: does it help if I repeat it? Ron: zzzzz Pamela: You are getting sleepy . . . Ron: huh? Pamela: WAKE UP! Ron: Oh ook Pamela: shades of Homer Simpson Guy B.: D-Ohh! Pamela: Very good, Guy rich: Guy, how's the Duroin coming? Ron: if you hear the wailing of old computing devices emanating from the west Pamela: we'll know where it's coming from Ron: yup rich: let's not be too hasty about this, Ron Ron: Sunday..... Pamela: Since when is twenty years hasty? Guy B.: The Athlon will be going up this weekend. I just created a new Data Lifeguard Tools disk for the Western Digital hard drive. rich: have you tried offering them for adoption on eBay? Ron: no Ron: wha? 386's Ron: XT's Ron: a 286? Ron: Have found homes for the 486's rich: Bob even finds homes for Adams on eBay Pamela: Bop can sell anything, I think Pamela: Bob, that is Ron: well.....let's just say that if I try that, they'll stay here forever Pamela: Sorry, Bob, freudian slip Ron: I want 'em OUT Guy B.: Well, we got 3 towers built from him and Doug recently. rich: well, if that's teh wrost that can happen ;-) Ron: Bob, are you looking for spare parts ? (chuckle) Pamela: Time to send your keyboard back to typing school, Dad rich: yes, I'm getting that feeling BobSlopsema: bop YOU!!! ;-) Pamela: No bop! BobSlopsema: darn connection is slow tonight! Pamela: ; ( rich: oh? mine seems fast or slow as usual Pamela: ditto Ron: C128, 2 Atari 1040's - the list goes on rich: occasionally our time slice of the server goes down momentarily Pamela: That's really scary Ron - talk about graveyards Meeka: mine too ;) Ron: wait till Mother finds out I'm keeping 5 Coleco ADAMs Pamela: Shh. Don't tell her Ron: in case I hold an ADAMCON Ron: some time rich: I'd say eBay would have someone wants those - what you think, Bob? Pamela: I thought the cons were BYOC Ron: well yes, but rich: oh no, they don't fit well on an airplane Ron: it helps to have some gear lying around rich: so the hosts just rustle up a few of teh local ones Pamela: true to both statements BobSlopsema: but, but EON! they are FAMILY!!! rich: I supplied Adamcon 07 pretty well singlehanded Ron: EXACTLY BobSlopsema: like shortly???? gotta get back to the island....... Ron: indeed you do BobSlopsema: parts only maybe Richard......Ebay is hard to get rid of older stuff Pamela: Now everyone knows why I moved out - so you could have more room for your ADAMs rich: yes, but Atari 1040s are among the more desired, aren't they? Ron: May keep one 1040, because it supposedly can run LINUX rich: got a kinda neat MIDI interface too, doesn't it? Ron: besides, I just paid $70. CDN for a mouse for it....via EBAY Pamela: Don't start thinking that way Ron, you'll never get rid of them Ron: yes Rich, that too..... as yet untried...(more roundtuits please) Ron: I know Pam, that's my problem..... Sunday....this SUNDAY Pamela: roundtuits for everyone for Christmas Ron: lots of 'em Pamela: It'll take that long to get . . . wait for it . . . Pamela: around to it Ron: :) :) Pamela: quit groaning! Ron: who me? Pamela: everyone rich: pity is, the old computers are still useful rich: there are people around whose ambitions will never get beynd a tad of word processing BobSlopsema: we are just sympathizing with poor ol' Ron Ron: Well that's what I don't like about this exercise Rich. They all still work as originally designed Ron: yeah, hey! Cut it out. I must be tough and bloody minded Pamela: don't worry, someone will get some use from them rich: you don't expect ME to back off on that point, do you? BobSlopsema: we have a push on her to turn in older coputers, etc also....what we NEED is a push to simply use the computer you need for the jobs you require REGARDLESS of the # of the cpu!!!! BobSlopsema: HERE Ron: exactly Bob Ron: I couldn't agree more rich: so when remorrse hits, Ron, I do have a few spare Adams Ron: Our community net had a similar project a year or so ago. Got no acceptance at all from the public Pamela: I have an old 486 rich: maybe can even throw in a barde TI or two Pamela: a what? BobSlopsema: a lot of computers are haing an early death becasue the public is ingrained that they need the latest greatest cpu or they can't do anything! rich: TI99/4A, Pam Ron: Was talking to a local consignment dealer here, and he says he can't give away 486's any more. But most BobSlopsema: FOOLS ALL!!!! Pamela: true, Bob Ron: people who come to his shop only want a word processor Pamela: I meant, what is "barde" supposed to be rich: bare Ron: Oh Oh. The Vancouver Canucks are about to start a game of hockey Pamela: thankyou Ron: their last perhaps Pamela: Go Leafs! rich: yes, we have a team plays that game too, Ron BobSlopsema: now, don't that just SAY IT ALL Ron?????? Ron: indeed rich: with luck for us tonight will be the last of this round BobSlopsema: I tell ya, Bill Gates and co have got the entire public confused!! Pamela: fingers, toes and eyeballs are duly crossed Pamela: makes typing difficult, I gotta tell you Ron: corporate boonswangled. that's what we are BobSlopsema: I just need a word processor, not a whole computer that works...... rich: amen. Amiga lives!!! - ask Frances Ron: let's hear it for Amiga Ron: the one computer that never made it to my collection Guy B.: Well gang. I have to read my e-mail, so I might as well get going. I'll try for Saturday. rich: rah - rah - RAH Ron: ah well... too late now rich: look for you then, Guy Meeka: see ya next time Guy Pamela: btw, Dad - there should be an icon on your word pro for "show / hide paragraphs and enters" that should help you Ron: keep that site going Guy. eager minds want to learn Pamela: Guy, you just got here! rich: likely is, but I've got an Adam so who needs it? Pamela: Well, you did the other night BobSlopsema: be good Guy!!!! good luck installing the sound card rich: unless, of course, I'm setting up an email Guy B.: I know, but I ran late tonight due to these soundboard problems I had. But, I'll try to be there this Saturday. See you all. Pamela: Goodnite, Guy rich: nite Guy Ron: niters Guy
Guy B. left chat session Ron: So are any of these Winnie-the-Pooh pieces going to make it to ADAMCON for raffling? Pamela: Unless you're having a baby, unlikely Ron: well some have said...... rich: better hit a bit harder on that diet, Ron Ron: that I look something like that Pamela: This is the first one I'm doing. I do have patterns though, so will try to get more done Pamela: You have a character preference? Ron: so that we have something that Meeka doesn't win Meeka: teddy bears Ron: anything Meeka: I have not won the afgan yet Ron rich: there's your answer, Pam Ron: no? Then why am I thinking you've won 2 straight? Ron: must be confusing you with someone else rich: your mother has that graphics file she can convert to a needlepoint grid Meeka: no. i HAVE TRIED, BUT NO SUCH LUCK Meeka: jEAN DID HOWEVER MAKE ME ONE Pamela: you mean I have to go back to Lewiscraft again? Meeka, I need that site PDQ Meeka: sorry don't know how htat key go turned on Pamela: stray fingers Ron: fimble ningers rich: adam.hollowdreams.com Meeka: not that on Rich Pamela: not that site, Dad, the cross stitch one rich: oops! OK Ron: Now all of a sudden I'm a hockey fan Pamela: Meeka, wouldn't it be neat if you won one of your own designs? BobSlopsema: talked to Jean Stone the other day (Judy did) and Jack is not healing well from legs surgury, so she is not sure about ADAMCON Ron: haven't watched a game all year BobSlopsema: but she has ah afghan all done for it Ron: poor Jack. He's usre had his problems Ron: sure I mean BobSlopsema: SHHHH !!!!!! son't tellthem that Meeka! ;-) rich: Harold Ballard cured me of any interest in hockey, permanently Pamela: It's called playoff fever Ron Meeka: it could go on the wall with all my others; Ron: something like that Meeka: :)( Ron: My son Jeff bought me a wireless mouse for my birthday rich: now that I have the satellite dish, maybe I should watch your election fun, Ron Meeka: I will get to see it first anyway. Jean sends them to Mom To bring anyway ;) Pamela: The very first one I did, I started in grade eight and didn't finish until about four years ago. I've gotten a bit faster since then Ron: in the instructions it said, "don't put the receiver within 8 inches of anything emitting electromagnetics" Ron: hah! Ron: pretty tall order around her4e Ron: here Meeka: Mom and Sherri compail cuz I can finish cross stitch's twice as fast as them Meeka: that is complain rich: think I prefer a cord, but I have designs on an optical wheel mouse soon Meeka: we got optical wheel ones recently. they are nice Ron: really impressed with this one Rich. it's a Logitech, and it has a wheel Ron: yeah, heard good about the opticals Pamela: I;ve gotten a lot more practice recently - eveyrone is getting married or having children rich: yes, Logitech have a corded optical wheel too Meeka: ours are Microsoft. :) rich: since I want a new computer anyway, that should be part of the spec Pamela: Sounds like you have the same mouse as we do Ron - I love it. Prior to this one, we were replacing our mouse on average of every four months Ron: AllsI need here is a cat Ron: Mice I got Pamela: Have I got a graphic for you! Ron: good. Send it Pamela: address? Ron: cookemitch@home.com Ron: or bytehacker@mac.com Pamela: okay, coming your way shortly Ron: :) Pamela: First I have to find it rich: by the way, Pam, how is Willow doing? Pamela: Better - things are staying down but since we took him off the meds temporarily, I think the thyroid is climbing again. He's exhibiting the symptoms rich: like, you have a solution that works - for now. But it's still a worry Pamela: Doc thinks it was a side effect of the meds Pamela: too high a dose rich: sheesh - into that merry-go-round. That's rough Ron: medication can be a touchy thing rich: pity you can't drain off the excess and transfuse it into Inky Pamela: specially for a 5.8 lb cat Pamela: Don't think I haven't thought of that Ron: Willow is a cat? Pamela: Yes, one of two Ron: ah ok. BobSlopsema: a hefty size pussycat Pamela: Inky, short for Mr. Inquisitive, is the other one Ron: love cats rich: Inky is his brother, a 58 lb. cat Ron: to me they are most often tolerant Pamela: The fact that Inky is black is useful Ron: indeed a weighty feeline - I can relate to that Pamela: Excuse me, that's only about 28 lbs. thank you Ron: I wondered Ron: even so rich: let's just say identical twins they ain't Pamela: They are littermates - Willow is a ginger tabby, and Inky is all black except for the white spot on his belly. They are opposite in just about every other way too Ron: not from the sound of it Pamela: Willow is skinny and nervous, Inky is fat and placid Ron: had two once Ron: Brother and Sister, so named because they were Ron: no imagination Pamela: very imaginative Ronb Ron: but talk about two opposite personalities Meeka: Dad, Doug wants to know if you were planning on playing puter tomorrow or Friday night? Ron: nothing like a good game of puter to sharpen everybody up Pamela: what kind of 'puter? Ron: not mugs BobSlopsema: wasn't planning on it..... Meeka: building computers BobSlopsema: unless he wants too Pamela: Ah BobSlopsema: that si PUT THEM TOGETHER mates! Ron: I KNOW! BobSlopsema: and whatever female "mates" are...... rich: like stick in screwdriver, observe blue smoke... Pamela: no that's destroy, not build Dad rich: computers are different... BobSlopsema: that is IT! Pamela: besides, you missed a step - that's pull the plug, stick in screwdriver, etc. Ron: Both have I seen right here in the snakepit Meeka: I was thinking of making Roast for supper some night this week and Doug suggested we have you over o we don't have too many leftovers. rich: take her up on it, Bob Ron: an offer you can't refuse Bob Pamela: Just put the leftovers in this container please ...(container) BobSlopsema: si, seenyor !!!! Ron: Can I come too? rich: yes, give her your email address so she can send teh file to you. Pam Pamela: bob, is your computer by any chance Mexican? Meeka: sure BobSlopsema: true.....got to be tomorrow night, because we got the boys Fri eve BobSlopsema: for awhile BobSlopsema: will tell mom to call ya! BobSlopsema: sure Ron!!!! rich: aha, grandfather drill, is it? Meeka: ok. check with mom and let me know Ron: I will think of you all, pigging out on roast beef Pamela: I was expecting to get back (containerleftovers) BobSlopsema: si!!!! ya'll noticed!!!!! BobSlopsema: had a heck of a time getting the chinese off it Pamela: Personally, I think it's having an identity crisis - part mexican, part cowboy Pamela: smorgasbord, anyone? BobSlopsema: gotta leave ya'll see ya next week and maybe Sat IF I can remenmber Meeka: bye rich: ok, this time do try to remember - hope to see you then Pamela: Enjoy your dinner tomorrow rich: nite for now Ron: Saturday.....Saturday.....Saturday.....Saturday Pamela: G'nite / adios Ron: adios? Pamela: Ron, pay attention. Mexican computer, remember? rich: it is about that time - Ron has a hockey game, I've got to check email Ron: missed something Pamela: no comment Ron: yeah, nothing worse than divided attention. Can't believe I'm actually watching it rich: any score from Toronto, Ron? Pamela: Ron, I sent that e-mail to you while we were talking so youshould have it now Ron: they beat Ottawa Ron: they've won Ron: earlier Pamela: YAY!! rich: wow - clean sweep Ron: yup 4 zip Ron: not sure what the score was, but think it might have been 3-1 rich: they'll need the rest - New Jersey is up next Ron: There is no joy in the Nation's Capital Pamela: Russell says 7-4 for Colorado over Calgary Ron: interesting. The Avalanche are playing Vancouver Ron: in Vancouver rich: well, at leasst one Canadian team makes it to the second round Pamela: I'm getting this second hand, remember Ron: right Pamela: he's a little sheepish right now Ron: So how many kids did James have in tow? Pamela: 12 - six girls, six boys Ron: oh Lord! rich: abouta dozen, maybe a couple more Pamela: five adults Pamela: three of whom speak English Ron: sounds like a decent supervisory ratio Pamela: It was quite entertaining Pamela: Well, Miyuki didn't arrive until the Saturday, so it was 3:4 for a while Ron: yes, had heard she was arriving after the bunch Pamela: Picture please, James in Montreal with Japanese - speaking kids Ron: they'll love it Pamela: entertaining was an understatement, I think Ron: wonder if he got a chance to see his parents Ron: who are in Ottawa I think rich: yes, he did Pamela: He did - he took a "home day" on Friday or Saturday Ron: aha rich: even got the whole gang to the Corel Centre for a Senators game rich: really top seats too apparently Ron: Now that would be an experience for them Pamela: And the boys up the CN tower Pamela: James is the only one with a fear of heights Ron: what was the average age of this crew? 11, 12?? rich: how did he take the glass floor? Pamela: 13, I think Pamela: He did okay, actually. The key as with me, is not to look down Ron: next time I'm in Toronto (and I will be in Toronto again) I must make a point of going there and to the Skydome Pamela: That way you don't have to convince your eyes of anything Pamela: I'll go up with you Ron, I love it Ron: good you're on Pamela: However, prepare to have your wallet squeezed - trip for adults is $16.00 Meeka: well folks, gotta get going Ron: oh well rich: right, Meeka - time presses on Ron: take care Meeka. rich: see you next week - nite Pamela: Okay Meeka. As soon as your site is ready, I will be there with bells on Ron: think I either turn this game off or watch it
Meeka left chat session Pamela: And I will try hollowdreams tonite before I sign off rich: well, I have to pack it in, so guess you watch teh game Pamela: Go ahead and watch it, Ron - I have to go to bed Ron: see you Saturday....Saturday.... Pamela: remember...remember... rich: Saturday it be. Nite now Ron: :)
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