james: good morning :) Rich Drushel: Hello James, we just finished Trick-Or-Treat here. james: my mother mentioned that. also tells me they got 2 cm of snow too :) meanwhile here it was sunny and 23 yesterday. Rich Drushel: We had about 1 cm of snow last Friday...cold and nasty, but melted right away. Rich Drushel: Tonight was a beautiful warm fall night, full moon, clear sky. james: don't think i'll be seeing snow here for at least a couple of months yet. james: finished sanding the bits and pieces of my deck yesterday. most of it's been restained too. some of it's in the garage and some of it james: beside my school outside. Rich Drushel: Hard to say when real winter will hit here. Rich Drushel: Some Halloweens it's poured buckets of rain or been a cold whiteout blizzard. james: i keep forgetting where you are Rich Drushel: Cleveland, on the North Coast :-) james: okay, that would explain it. despite what canadians think, the us northeast is no different in terms of weather from the ottawa area. Rich Drushel: The meteorologists blame everything on "lake effect", so their job is easy. james: saves them actually having to figure it out. Rich Drushel: Our house is in the snow belt, so while west siders might get a couple flurries, we east siders get 6 inches. james: i've heard that. where i am is "cold" and very snowy by japanese standards. Rich Drushel: Yeah, when they start saying "lake effect sunshine", you know it's baloney :-) james: ;-)
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: How much snow is usual? james: we got alot of snow last year
changed username to BobS BobS: Howdy fellas Rich Drushel: Abend Herr Slopsema.
moved to room Meeting Place james: last year at one point we got 80cm in one shot. BobS: ya sure james: morning bob
changed username to rich-c james: yappari :) hi rich. Rich Drushel: And our peripatetic Clee has returned... rich-c: Hey, teh gang's all here! Rich Drushel: In one piece, we hope... rich-c: yup, under our own power and no corners knocked off BobS: mornihg james, and Rich x 2 james: yes. i as usual can't be on for too long courtesy of the local telcos. was on for 3 hours yesterdy downloading norton antivirus. rich-c: right, the yen is getting a beating too these days. Hi James james: student of mine got a virus in her e-mail and decided to "install" it to her desktop :/ Rich Drushel: I use elm from a bash prompt, no worries about .VBS for me :-) james: yeah, it's kind of low now but i think any canadian would be happy to see our dollar at that level. rich-c: Oh dear. what ARE you teaching those kids, anyway? james: i use eudora. she of course was using m$ outlook express. Rich Drushel: Bob or Rich, you get many trick-or-treaters tonight? james: virology rich-c: yes, but surely you're teaching them not to open attachments? Rich Drushel: Other than our kids and 3 friends who went with them, we had exactly 2. james: no, she's self-taught rich-c: I doubt we've even had ten kids by tonight, let alone the usual 30 - 40 Rich Drushel: Hold a sec, gotta get Gretchen out of the bathtub... BobS: no we hqad about all the immediate neighborhood kids i thnk BobS: Judy sasy nshe had about 150 rich-c: I noticed on the trip that the Halloween decorations were few and up late rich-c: and the really over the top setups were very rare rich-c: everybody was busy putting up flags instead BobS: can't recall any decorations around here rich-c: oddly enough, we saw almost as many elaborate setups in Toronto as anywhre on the orad Rich Drushel: Back from bath duty. BobS: good!!! and dry????? Rich Drushel: Our neighbors across the street had a nice setup, fog machine, good horror makeup, and a wire/pulley system to make a ghost fly an erratic course all through their yard.
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: hello Guy Rich Drushel: Yep, Gretchen is dried and dressed. Rich Drushel: Hi Guy. Guy B.: Greetings Everyone. I'm on the P133 tonight. The Athlon is screwed up. Rich Drushel: It was my turn to sit at home while Joan took the girls out. (We alternate years, I did last year.) BobS: Hi Guy!!!! BobS: on Netzero, are ya?? rich-c: why, what did you do to it? Try to install XP? Rich Drushel: I want XP on my ADAM 486 :-) rich-c: that's unkind, Rich Guy B.: No, Corecomm. Expires this Sunday. I haven't reinstalled Netzero on the P133. Rich Drushel: I know, but I found it amusing that there was an Adam 486 that some poor soul got and somehow associated it with Coleco. Guy B.: Why do you thibk that? james: yeah, i read that too and it struck me as odd that someone who can't tell the difference would even be attempting a processor upgrade. rich-c: give her credit, she obviously doesn't know much but equally obviously is trying hard BobS: I don't think it IS an ADAM 486.\, probably just some poor mis BobS: guided lady not knowing what it is Rich Drushel: I find it quite likely that some clone maker independently would use the name Adam. rich-c: I have a vague recollection of hearing something similar somewhere before Guy B.: Anyone want to buy System Commander Deluxe with a free disk update? I'm selling it. rich-c: there does seem to be a rogue board out there that says Adam on it somewhere rich-c: sorry, already have it, Guy Rich Drushel: There is also an embedded controller system similar to BASIC stamps called ADAM (in all caps). rich-c: anyway, you haven't told us what you did to your Athlon Guy B.: I knew you had that Rich C. rich-c: anyway I thought McQ answered her quite nicely BobS: the Athalon Guy............. Rich Drushel: Yes, he really had all the info. Guy B.: I have Win95 with USB on it. Then I installed System Commander Deluxe with just Win95. Then I got Win98. Installed that and that's where the problems started. Both OS's are freezing on me. BobS: oh,oh james: what is system commander? Guy B.: So, I managed to backup what I have onto CD-RW. Tomorrow, I'm going to delete and repartition the hard drive and install just Win98. rich-c: you mean you have three partitions, 2 x Win95 plus Win98? Rich Drushel: Gang, I have to leave so Christina can use the phone...hope you all looked at my Ugly Professor picture :-) I'm told I'm winning the contest so far with $$$ raised... rich-c: not yet, but will look - hope you can rejopin later BobS: bye Rich Guy B.: No, one partition with Win95 which is FAT32 with 12gig. The other partition is 1gig with Win98 as FAT16. I think both cannot recognize each other. Guy B.: Bye Rich D. Rich Drushel: Bye for now...<poof>
Rich Drushel left chat session rich-c: Why wuold you be using FAT16 for your Win98 partition? Guy B.: That's what System Commander ended up doing. I couldn't make it FAT32. rich-c: Weird. rich-c: anyway, no, they should not be able to see each other rich-c: in fact, I'd expect trouble if either could see the other Guy B.: Isn't it. So, in addition to System Commander I'm selling. I'm also going to sell the Win95 USB. james: gang, i need to go for a bit. there's a chance i'll be on again in about an hour if people are still gabbing ;) rich-c: you may find the market limited; the USB edition is flakey and incompatible with some of the (% sopftware Guy B.: We'll be here James. rich-c: look for you later james BobS: ok james BobS: be good james: see you soon! james: *poof*
james left chat session Guy B.: That I found out. It won't work with the Lexmark printer as USB. It will with Win98. rich-c: not only that, there aer some other programs that don't like it either BobS: we have an HP usb and got it working once with 98 but now it won't........wierd rich-c: I was looking into getting it then discovered I wouldn't be able to run certain of my programs - forget which now Guy B.: Make sure the cables are connected and your BIOS is setup to recognize the USB ports. That's what I did with the Athlon. BobS: "bill" has the idea taht then you will buy an upgrade BobS: yes??? rich-c: I'd have thought on your Athlon the USB ports would be recognized by default BobS: SO, Richard, how was your travel???? rich-c: Actually we didn't travel much - spent three weeks in the Prince William National Forest BobS: and where is that daughter of yours????? BobS: which is where???? BobS: prince edward island???? rich-c: which is in Virginia and has a full-hookup campground Guy B.: I had to set it through the BIOS first before the OS recognized it. And you need the drivers too. rich-c: Pamela is down with a nasty bout of the flu rich-c: she also watches West Wing or something on Wednesday nights Guy B.: Let's see if she makes it. BobS: and you did what for 3 weeks, traveled about using it as home base??? or just relaxed??? rich-c: does it give you a clue that it was 18 miles by I95 from the Metro terminal? BobS: no rich-c: by Metro it's an easy traffic free trip into Washington rich-c: we actually got a decent look at the Smithsonian at last BobS: good!!!! rich-c: took us six separate days, but we put a big scratch in the surface, so to speak BobS: run into any problems access wise getting around Washington??? rich-c: didn't try to take the car in, period. rich-c: But even going up and down I95 from the subway could get pretty fraught at times Guy B.: Can't blame you for that, especially with the heavy security. rich-c: Sort of like driving into the Loop in rush hour, Guy Guy B.: Sounds about right. rich-c: yes, the security is really more than a little ridiculous BobS: overboard and mostly by untrained personnel Guy B.: Even Yankee stadium is heavily secured for the World Series. rich-c: yes, minimum wage, no experience, no training and an ignorant attitude BobS: RIGHT!!!! rich-c: that's unfair to the Smithsonian guards who were mostly pretty decent Guy B.: I know what you mean Rich. rich-c: even if one twit demanded to see in my glasses case rich-c: there's a difference between rational precautionary measures and hysterical paranoia BobS: and right now it is hysterical paranoia BobS: can't have fingernail clippers on an airplane....... BobS: GET REAL!!!! whatcha gonna do with them???? rich-c: yes, did you hear about the sirline that won't give its passengers sugar for their coffe because it's a white powder? BobS: yes, heard that..........gonna have to givre up coffee because I want BOTH sugar and cream rich-c: and the other one that wont let passengers get up even to go to the bathroom? BobS: pee on the seat, I say BobS: or better, the floor rich-c: better still, get on board with diarhea rich-c: and use teh aisle Guy B.: That's getting drastic there. BobS: that'd be messy rich-c: well, extreme problems sometimes demand extreme answers, Guy BobS: I hope before Dec they wise up a little Guy B.: True and I wonder who will clean it up. rich-c: but in case anyone's curious, we had no border trouble at all BobS: good rich-c: US Customs wanted to look in our trunk, but never gave a thought to the trailer BobS: reports were taht the us/canadian borders were backed up badly rich-c: not that the Behemoth's trunk isn't big enough to hold two boards of a terrorist chess tournament rich-c: but we could have had half of al Queada in the trailer BobS: minimum wage, un trained............. rich-c: no, these weer professional Customs types rich-c: in justice that my expect our easy pass - they've seen us before BobS: that doesn't make them any better rich-c: maybe literally, maybe "so to speak". i.e. generically rich-c: Frances and I would have a hard time convincing anyon3e we represented a threat of any kind rich-c: couldn't even be going in planning to settle illegally - we're entitled to immigrate anyhow rich-c: they can't close teh door when you're carrying a US birth certificate Guy B.: That's right. BobS: did ya have to show anything like a birth certificate???? rich-c: nope, we had them with us but weren't asked rich-c: had no problem getting back into Canada either, though I did see some cars ahead in the line getting grilled rich-c: did throw a couple of trick questions at us, though BobS: like what..... BobS: where yu been and who is that with you??? rich-c: the licence number of teh car BobS: like I 'd know that rich-c: that's interesting because they always look at it before you pull up rich-c: so they can type it into their records compute BobS: 'oops ours in only in the back rich-c: and what we were doing in the US BobS: setting up a bombing........er,.....vacationling BobS: like you are going to admit wrongdoing........ rich-c: the point I think is to see how long it takes you to think up an answer rich-c: like the licence - most folks know the numbers of their own cars rich-c: if they don't, that warrants a bit moe explanation rich-c: fast as you can type, Guy - what's your licence number? BobS: mine says MI on it Guy B.: GSB 73 rich-c: took you a while to look that up rich-c: surprised you don't have it memorized BobS: why BobS: the only time I need it is for camping BobS: and then I go look rich-c: you always seem to need it for something - gas on a credit card, campground registration, general b.s. rich-c: though I admit I';d have trouble remembering the trailer plate as no one ever asks for it rich-c: but there are so many t4al Safari/Astro vans around Toronto if I didn't know my plate I'd never be able to find it in the mall parking lot BobS: there are that many???? rich-c: I can't even go around the block without seeing a couple rich-c: and that's before teh contractors building the new houses arrive rich-c: of course you have to realize our neighbourhood has a lot of Orhtodox Jews BobS: huh??? what does taht have to do with anything rich-c: and given their family sizes, seven or eight seater vehicles can be VERY useful BobS: ok that what it hass to do with it BobS: so you stayed 3 weeks in Pr William Natl park......that was all BUT travel time yes????
moved to room Meeting Place BobS: HE"S BACK rich-c: right - we dawdled going down and dawdled coming home BobS: well somebody's here rich-c: also had some minor difficulties with the car
changed username to bair BobS: that is what retirement is for BobS: HI BOB!!!!! rich-c: greeting to the Great Bair BobS: wonders NEVER cease,.......... Guy B.: It's the Bair. Hi Bob, how are you doing? bair: hi every one bair: find BobS: see Bob???? I TOLD you theya ll missed ya BobS: how Virginia?????? BobS: and is she still working her tail off??? bair: YES BobS: well tell her to STOP!!!!!! Guy B.: And keeping you busy as well? BobS: all work is NO fun bair: We now have 1572.00 BobS: wa's that????? bair: That is in the bank Guy B.: Very good. Planning on coming to next year's Adamcon? BobS: that is GOOD!!!!!!!! bair: for Ann Net News BobS: that's right Guy, plead with Bair, encoruage him, beg bair: not sure yet rich-c: yeah Bob, it';s only up to Michigan, you gotta come BobS: we get some new subscriptions I don't know about??????? Guy B.: We all missed you from the last two. bair: no BobS: Virginaia is going to NEED a vacation about next August bair: not sure yet rich-c: or if it's July, that should be better yet rich-c: reminds me - have you set a confirmed date, Bob? BobS: nope gotta be August and not 1st weekend Ron says Guy B.: I'm already plan on going and it would be good for the both of you to come up. BobS: tentatively 2nd weekend of August, but no hotel yet bair: how many has completed adam bomb rich-c: it.s OK, I can live with that Guy B.: That's ideal for me. rich-c: just make sure if you make me miss the Molson Indy that thye motel has cable BobS: when's that rich-c: CART haven't put out their 2002 schedule yet BobS: Pam says not July, meeka same, Ron M has 1 st weekedn family reunion BobS: SHEES BobS: \well then call them and tell them to work around that weekend
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changed username to Rich Drushel BobS: hello der........... Guy B.: Rich D is back. rich-c: welcome back Rich BobS: tis Richard!!!! alinve and in the flesh Rich Drushel: Bair, is that *the* Bob Bair?!?! Guy B.: We got the Bair on. bair: hey rich very sorry about the check BobS: yupper Rich Drushel: No worries...you want it back? Not that I'll ever cash it. BobS: don't memtion it, 'casue he lost it anyway.... ;-) bair: no Rich Drushel: Mr. Bair, we miss you and Virginia at these ADAMcons... bair: just added it back in Rich Drushel: Here's hoping we can see you in Michigan or somewheres. BobS: nope, but I DO want my ADAMCON 13 check one day, maybe at AC14 Guy B.: I was just telling him that. We'ew asking them to come up for next year's. Rich Drushel: Yeah, I still have all those worthless checks...I will keep 0001 for me, though. bair: I feel real bad about that Rich Drushel: I've heard you've not been well, so we understand...hope you can be on the mend. bair: I think I'm getting there Rich Drushel: I've been getting too big for my britches at these ADAMcons without you to take me down a peg or ten... Rich Drushel: :-) rich-c: well, someone has to explain things to us, Rich rich-c: or at least translate Dale into English BobS: \RIGHT, last year, rich thought he owned the place or organized it or something Rich Drushel: And see where *that* got us... BobS: jsut because he had his own robot lab too!!!!!! Rich Drushel: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." BobS: :-) Rich Drushel: Well, I might be able to bring a robot kit for folks to play with, if it wouldn't be viewed as a distraction from ADAM stuff. bair: well I am making jumps for motor cycles with my tractor rich-c: oh, we're pretty tolerant of distractions Rich Drushel: What would be really great is software to make it an ADAMnet device, 'cause that really is technically possible. rich-c: now that would be fun bair: sounds like fun rich-c: Frances would even settle for having it Amiga compatible Rich Drushel: Yeah, write to block 0 turns on motor 0, or something like that. Rich Drushel: It would be tethered, of course.
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: just as long as you bring a LONG spool of wire rich-c: hello daughter, felling better? bair: remote Pamela: Hi, sorry I'm late Pamela: Sorta BobS: well about time, playing sick and all Rich Drushel: Trick or Treat, Pamela! Pamela: feeling better that is rich-c: that doesn't sound too good Rich Drushel: Ouch, didn't know you were ill... Guy B.: Hi Pam rich-c: although once you're over the hump with flu, it does seem to clear up fairly quickly Pamela: Trick or treat, Rich. Dad, I will tell you all about it alter Pamela: It's not the flu Rich Drushel: Too bad you can't see me sitting here in my Captain Kirk uniform. BobS: anthrax?????? rich-c: speaking of which, Pamela, any idea where all the kids were tonight? Pamela: No, Bob BobS: aw Rich and no trick or treaters Pamela: Sorry, Dad, can't help you there Rich Drushel: I wore it to work today, even to a 9 AM faculty meeting. Pamela: Cool, Rich bair: who wants to watch kids rich-c: oh, some of them are pretty cute Rich Drushel: Only one other person wore something, though. BobS: go over big did ti?????? rich-c: we only had about ten, if that Rich Drushel: Stodgy bunch, our faculty. Pamela: The days of dressing up at work seem to be over Pamela: Dad, in answer to your question about your address book, I still have it rich-c: one of the clerks at NoFrills today was wearing a witch costume Rich Drushel: Yeah, I can be both Ugly and Trekkie at Halloween. bair: start it up agian Pamela: It's in a bag with stuff to goto the house which never got there rich-c: long as I know where it is, Pam - I was getting a bit panicky Rich Drushel: Joan was off today, and came down to campus dressed as a hippie. We had lunch at a local restaurant near campus. BobS: Capt Pamela: BTW Rich, I loved your pictures bair: rich just at halloween BobS: Capt'n Kirk and a HIPPIE??????? rich-c: from City at the edge of forever? Rich Drushel: As for the girls, Christina was some kind of black shadow Ninja who was supposed to be on vacation, so she was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and lei over her Ninja suit. Rich Drushel: No, Edith Keeler was not a hippie...a 1930s pacifist. Pamela: Dad, its' City on the Edge of Forever" Rich Drushel: Elanor was a Japanese princess with kimono and chopsticks in her hair. She wouldn't wear a black wig, so she was the only red-headed geisha girl on the block :-) rich-c: us librarians use a down style for such things Rich Drushel: Diana was her favorite Pokemon, a fox-thing called Eevee. Guy B.: That's something different for her. Rich Drushel: And Gretchen was a ladybug. Joan of course made all the costumes. Pamela: Those are all really cool ideas too, Rich - did anyone win any prizes? Guy B.: My nephew Jason went as young Obi Wan Kenobi from Star Wars. Rich Drushel: No formal prizes, but they all came home with full bags of candy :-) Pamela: I can just picture Gretchen - cute as a bug's ear Rich Drushel: I can post photos when they are developed. No digital ones this time. rich-c: we will look forward to that, Rich Pamela: ya post! Rich Drushel: <back in 5 minutes> rich-c: by the way, Rich, is Cleveland as plastered with flags as the east coast? Pamela: I think he snuck outon you dad rich-c: afraid so Pamela: (darn space bar) BobS: probably Rich, flags all over here too bair: indiana is Pamela: I have to get this key board cleaned rich-c: just take the vacuum to it, it's pretty tough Pamela: No, the key is sticking in this case - I'm pretty sure it has something to do with a previous dinner of Russell's rich-c: must be that cherry 7-up Guy B.: There's a better solution. Get a new keyboard. bair: set it out doors in the rain Pamela: But Guy, that costs money rich-c: but that could cost almost $10, Guy BobS: Jean Stone used to clean them inthe bathtub and then let thenm dry good BobS: and they worked!!!!! Guy B.: But, you have a spanking new keyboard, problem free. Pamela: Maybe I should ship it to Jean for cleaning rich-c: nothing that belongs to a computer is ever problem-free, Guy bair: I just use a big hammer BobS: just get a new one cheap and sav3we th old for backup Guy B.: Ok, even a hard drive will die too as what happened to me just before 2000 with the P133. Pamela: You know, Bair, I like your idea the best bair: you will feel better Pamela: Coincides with some of the ideals I was brought up with Pamela: : ) rich-c: anyone know where Ron has got to tonight? Pamela: Right, Dad? bair: I run over mine with the tractor Pamela: Yeah, he said something about giving out candy rich-c: yes, Pam, if it won't work, get a bigger hammer Rich Drushel: <Rich returneth> BobS: Ron is looking for my copy of Powerpaoint to run on the hard drvie, I am sure........... Pamela: Heeee's back rich-c: which reminds me, Bobn, what' bair: wy bair: why rich-c: s this bit about motorcycle jumps? Pamela: Cos he forgot to send it last week Bob? Rich Drushel: Re: flags, Rich, yes, there are flags around most places. I wonder if WW2 was like this. BobS: RD, yo got a copy of PowerPaint HD edition handy for email???????? bair: Yea two weeks ago my son had 13 bikes here rich-c: no, not to this extent BobS: right Pam, couldn't find it rich-c: there were a fair few flags around, of course rich-c: but rmember materials wre needed for the war effort rich-c: and at the end of the Depression money was still scarce Rich Drushel: Re: PowerPaint HD, I could probably find it. Rich Drushel: It would be easier to install by block-copy. rich-c: mostly there would be fairly generous displays on special occasions - 4th of juyl or such Pamela: You were still living in the States then, right Dad? BobS: whatever, just tell me when ya send it Rich Drushel: But then it would have my "personalization". BobS: OR emulator style rich-c: no Pam, we came to Canada in January 1938 Rich Drushel: Somewhere I (and Herman) have the programs which can put a new serial number on the boot screen. Pamela: I didn't realize it was that early Rich Drushel: But I bet I can't easily lay my hands on it (nor Herman). Rich Drushel: So, an image of my image will do. Pamela: BRB - meds time BobS: heck got those but PP won't work BobS: ANd print to ADAM's dot matrix printer rich-c: Rich, an item in Langalist this week said one reader was getting administrative pings at his computer
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changed username to Ron rich-c: at the rate of 2 or 3 per second - have you seen anything like that? BobS: HARK!!!!! the MIGHTY Mitchell bair: hi ron Ron: I used to be a werewolf, but I'm ok noooooooooowwwwww!! rich-c: bout time, Ron! Ron: hello Ron: trick or treat thing, you know Guy B.: Hi Ron. On the Mac? Tonight, I'm on the P133. The Athlon is screwed up. Ron: slumming eh Guy? Rich Drushel: Well, the most hopeful thing to do would be to fire up my MW HD system and write out the PP volume to disk image, then make it into emulator format. Ron: iMac Guy B.: OS trouble. Pamela: There, horse pills consumed Pamela: Hi, Ron Ron: Hi Pam Ron: So tell me Dr. D Pamela: Glad there's someone later than I was Ron: who won the contest? rich-c: did you get many "customers" tonight, Ron? Ron: 29 Rich Drushel: The exchange of "iMac", "OS trouble", and "There, horse pills consumed" is very interesting... Ron: light BobS: if ya got time Rich Rich Drushel: Ugly Professor? It's still running (through Friday). rich-c: we got barely any
(Guy B. laughs heartily) Ron: ah. Ron: well like I said
(A dog howls in the distance) Pamela: Rich, the doc gave me antibiotics rich-c: don't know what I'm going to do with all those Reeses peanut butter cups Pamela: they Pamela: re horse pills Rich Drushel: Anecodotal reports are that I'm winning, but no firm numbers from the actual contest organizers. bair: good pills Pamela: Reese's? Daddy, how much do you love me? Rich Drushel: Bwahahaha! Guy B.: Look out Rich C. bair: look out bob Rich Drushel: Sounds like Christina talking now... Pamela: I'll trade you for your address book rich-c: you got your cut with the pop - don't get greedy! BobS: send them over here email Rich Ron: more trick or treaters Ron: they're getting older now Rich Drushel: BobS, what's your current E-mail? Pamela: In fact, lets just say that your address book is history until I get my share Pamela: Is that fair? : ) rich-c: yeah, Bob, like tonight's? rich-c: well, you gotta come here to get them BobS: rslopsema@ netzero.net ; email@example.com Pamela: That's reasonable Ron: Bob - got your message. Gonna see my guy here tomorrow rich-c: and what will the address be next week? Rich Drushel: Thanks, BobS. BobS: same richard BobS: might dump netzewro.n but can keep mailbox due to free time per month rich-c: for the next Adamcon, we should have a contest question about who's email address hasn't changed Pamela: That's too easy - yours and mine bair: i would win BobS: who'd win???????? rich-c: and no others that I can recall Ron: bair? Rich Drushel: Ha, wonder if anyone has the address firstname.lastname@example.org Ron: is that THE bair? bair: yes Ron: hey! Pamela: Speaking of contests, Rich,are there any further entries in the scavenger hunt? Rich Drushel: Argh, I never did post the list, did I? Bad Rich, bad. Ron: Anywy Rich D. that was some pic you sent Pamela: for shame! Rich Drushel: New entries are always possible. rich-c: Bob, you STILL haven't explained the motorcycle ramps Rich Drushel: We could have another such hunt at the next ADAMcon, if we can disqualify past winners from eligibility for any prizes :-) Ron: :) Pamela: ! rich-c: next time, I'll bring my BASIC book and computer tools bair: I push dirt about 4 feet of dirt for the guys Guy B.: That sounds fair. Pamela: Heck, Dad, why not just throw the whole office in the back of the van? BobS: Frances an Pam are going to have to do an ADAM demonstratin on taking it apart nex tyear......... Rich Drushel: It's mostly to prevent Dale from intimidating new participants :-) Pamela: Maybe we could do Russell and Dad against Mom and I Ron: Actually, Dale was encouraging everyone else to do things - Ron: like me bair: He owns 1.25 acres and it is full of jumps rich-c: maybe I'll even have the laptop working usefully by then Rich Drushel: I think Judy should be the Mistress of Ceremonies and make me and Dale compete blindfolded... Ron: yeah! Pamela: this is getting kinky Rich Drushel: BobS doesn't have to say if she already has a whip or not... Pamela: there is such a thing as TMI Rich Drushel: Too Much I....? Pamela: Information Rich Drushel: Ahhh. Ron: Is this an ADAMCON we're talking about or....what? BobS: judy says.........anyone who connived to get her involved this past year is in trouble NEXT year bair: May be Icould do some thing on adam bomb if there would be an interest Pamela: Good for her BobS: yup
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changed username to james BobS: YES BAIR Pamela: Hi, James Guy B.: Jmes is back. Pamela: Happy All Saints Day james: hi :) rich-c: welcome back james BobS: that is going to be a centerpoint of the convention I think james: in the middle of stuff. back and forth between the classroom. Guy B.: Now my typing is slipping. Ron: Is Halloween celebrated in Japan? james: no. no candy for me.. Ron: aw Pamela: Have a Reese's peaunt butter cup - Dad had leftovers james: i prefer chocolate anyways. rich-c: a little gyoza, maybe? Pamela: (REESE) james: :) bair: bobs give some reeses BobS: yum,,,,,,,,that is GOOOOOODD!!!!! Pamela: Hey Bob, that was for James! james: my student's computer is a mess. desktop full of icons, 15 apps launching at startup, a virus which is pretty nasty. going to take awhile to clean up. BobS: heck no, I am going to keep them all for myself Rich Drushel: The plural of rice is reese? rich-c: consider yourselves emailed one each Guy B.: Bob, cut that out. Now your making us all want one. Ron: throw some of those over the Rockies eh? bair: you are a mean dad to make her beg james: *punches bob in the face and grabs reese's crumbs from his mouth* Pamela: Reese frisbees. What a concept
(Guy B. slaps BobS playfully) Rich Drushel: And you've never had Tim groveling at your feet, BobB? :-) BobS: GET OUTA THERE bair: NO Pamela: Okay there's enough for everyone - don't fight Rich Drushel: Well, shame on you then, shoulda grabbed the chance when ya had it :-) Ron: mine, mine , mine Pamela: reese, reese, reese, reese, reese reese . . . bair: I have been a good dad rich-c: am I going to have to send out anohter round? james: if anyone is curious i've got some coleco games on order Rich Drushel: I know BobB, I know. BobS: yup, rich rich-c: tell us about them, james Ron: which ones James Rich Drushel: My eldest has started to try to yank our chains a bit, and we are restraining ourselves from yanking back too hard. Rich Drushel: The temptation is there, though. james: slither, turbo, illusions, defender for 2600 (have the exp module), BobS: which ones James?????? Pamela: You have a good relationship with her Rich - you'll get through it rich-c: the critical age is 15 - after that they improve - slowly james: pac-man, dig-dug, joust and warlords. BobS: she will drive you NUTS Rich,,,,,,for sure Guy B.: Well folks, got a big day tomorrow. On vacation this week and I'm going to clean Jeanene's rugs tomorrow and repartition the hard drive on the Athlon, plus whatever else I have to do. So, see you all next week. Pamela: (Says the voice of experience) BobS: hang in there and don't give in bair: come on richd give a little james: i sort of know what you'Re going through rich given the demographics of my students. 71 students. only 13 are boys. rich-c: see you Guy; assume Saturday is a non-starter BobS: say HI to Jeanene Pamela: G'nite Guy, good luck with the Athlon Rich Drushel: Bye, Guy. james: bye guy Guy B.: I might, depends what I'm doing. bair: bye guy Ron: nite Guy Pamela: That's some split, James
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: actually ditto here; if the Argos game conflicts, I'll not be on Rich Drushel: I'm not mean enough to be too mean, I don't think, so I don't think that there will be any long-term dangers. james: yeah skewed ratio for sure. alot of these kids started when they were in 4th grade. now they're in sixth, the hormones have kicked in and i can't get james: them to shut up. rich-c: if that's the worst of your problems, count your blessings, james BobS: aliens take teeenagers at about 14 or 15 and give them back at 21.......... Pamela: As long as they chatter in English, your worries are over james: one of them brought a whistle to class. i asked her what it was for. she said "in case some old lewd guy comes up to me" at which point james: she looks at me straight-faced and of course, blows the whistle. Pamela: What bothered you most James, the Old part or the Lewd part? james: same girl is learning the restaurant unit i have and i'm explaining what a "booth" is and how it's a semi-private place to sit. Rich Drushel: Hmm, I thought the stereotype of Japanese culture was respect for one's elders...guess us Americans are de-civilizing them. james: she then says "oh, so people can have sex there!" and i say "well, we don't normally do that in restaurants" and it took five minutes to calm them down. james: fifth grade no less. james: probably the old part to be honest. bair: I think that is gone Pamela: That's one for the records Pamela: I can't wait to read your memoirs Rich Drushel: Hey, I get to be as old as Jack Benny on Saturday... james: respect for one's elders? well i don't think i'm quite seen as an "elder".. james: seriously though, most of the kids are bright, have fun and do well. rich-c: yes, we got that impression when you had them here in Toronto Pamela: and you know what, James? They learn better in that environment james: that's what i'm hoping. bair: youare that old aren't you Pamela: a "fun" class is more likely to stick than a structured one james: the 7th and 8th grade girls take alot out of me though. rich-c: anyway, Rich, happy birthday, young feller Rich Drushel: :-) Ron: birthday? james: how young, rich? Ron: ya mean one of them annual thingies? Pamela: Thirty nine, I'd say from the clues Rich Drushel: I am also as old as Bill Shatner in the first season of Star Trek, so this is my perfect time to be in his Captain's outfit for Halloween. bair: rich d do you need a cain yet Rich Drushel: As I told someone today, I have the right figure and right hairline, too, to play Capt. Kirk :-) james: and i think my students give me a hard time for being 27. that's still green as far as i'm concerned. james: scotty, we *need* more *power*.. bair: you are past that age Pamela: That's still green for most of us Ron: today everything hurts Rich Drushel: Hey, that's what I programmed my communicator to say. Pamela: Like, about 9 years ago Ron: and if it doesn't hurt, it doesn't work bair: work out more james: :) i've been a fan for a long time. watched the original series when i was a kid. Pamela: Not "beam me up Scotty"? rich-c: and after a while, even if you're not working it, it hurts Ron: yep Ron: had a knee x-rayed today Ron: zap! BobS: Judy can relate Ron, got a bad foot, starting to lose the green tinge now bair: that is old age james: anyways, i have a friend coming over and a computer to fix so i must once again leave you all. i hope to be on longer next week. Ron: aurhur's itis BobS: but stull hurts Pamela: Well that's it Ron, now you done it Rich Drushel: Nope. My TOS communicator has an 8-second voice recorder in it. So, I recorded myself saying (in brogue) "Enterprise to Captain Kirk. We're ready to beam ya up." rich-c: right james, we shall look forward to it. Take cre james: cheers. i'll let you know how the games work out ;) BobS: be goo Jamesm and say HI to Miyuki (?) did Ig et it right????? Pamela: G'nite James - was a pleasure Rich Drushel: Flick it open, it chirps (sampled original sounds), push the button, Scotty talks. People were impressed today :-) Pamela: How Pamela: s the baby doing? james: *poof* james: miyuki is coming along. Pamela: feeling good? james: starting to show. hopefully the next ultrasound will reveal more detail. james: seems it *might* be a girl though it's still too early to tell. Pamela: that's so wonderful Pamela: Tell her Hi for us james: my wife says they're going to go out and spend all my money. they won't get much i'm afraid .. :) Pamela: let us know if there Ron: hey! Pamela: s anything you need too james: will do! Rich Drushel: Bye, James...and I will have to leave now, too. Class early tomorrow...hailing frequencies closed from Starbase Cleveland, sir. james: ron? Ron: yessss? rich-c: OK, Cap'n see you too next week. james: you said "hey!".. Pamela: g'nite Captain Rich Drushel: <sparkles> bair: bye rich
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changed username to james Ron: Ok, who are the dudes on Enterprise with the little antennae on their hea Ron: heads? james: andorians if i'm not mistaken. Pamela: on the new series? Andorians Ron: just started here james: the blue guys with feathers for hair, right? Pamela: James, are you getting Enterprise over there? Ron: yeah , something like that james: no. all i get is the american empire "strikes back" cnn stuff. Pamela: blue skin, white hair james: yeah, andorians. Pamela: I haven't seen tonite's episode yet james: anyways, will see you all next week!
james left chat session Pamela: that was quick BobS: by ejames Ron: yup Ron: good week James Pamela: Bob, where's your younger generation tonite? Pamela: S, that is BobS: don't know, they were here until about 9PM then went home......... BobS: thoght Meeka would come on BobS: but I guess not Pamela: Haven't seen her for a couple of weeks BobS: what's next weeks weather Ron????????? bair: 5 foot snow Ron: well, I think our weathermen have lost it Pamela: Icky - although they're saying a high of 18!! tomorrow Ron: this week was supposed to be a write off Ron: but tonight it's great. Yesterday was great Ron: I dunno Ron: Full moon is out for the festivities Pamela: that's too warm for November 1 BobS: so now you forward that yuck nothing our way eh???? Ron: you want it, you got it BobS: 18 !!!!!!! that is COLD!!! BobS: ;-) bair: had a tornado here last week Pamela: Only if you don't translate it Bob BobS: :-) Pamela: With that line of thunderstorms Bair? Ron: this is not good Bair. BobS: beautiful here today, and tomorrow and Fri Ron: were you near it Pamela: That was weird too BobS: last wed it was,.......we were inthe right place at the right time and missed it all bair: lost two factories but no lives Pamela: Yes, I remember you saying the storm chased you home from there, Bob Ron: ic BobS: OUCH Bob BobS: come anywhere near you????? Pamela: But property can be replaced Pamela: People can't be bair: about 4 miles away rich-c: anyway, isn't it aboput time for Bairs to go into hibernation? BobS: I could be replaced by 2-21 year olds Ron: that's close enough, thank you Pamela: I disagree, sir bair: two more weeks Pamela: you're irreplaceable Pamela: quit sniffeling rich-c: at least until after AC13 Pamela: Try 14, Dad Ron: brb BobS: AC14 to be correct rich-c: sorry, after all these years I'm losing count rich-c: have to go in and chack my t-shirts BobS: Pam, now, now, dad is getting on you know......... bair: mind is first to go BobS: look at them too Rich Pamela: That's why I'm here, to plague him into remembering bair: good job Pamela: Never mind, half the time it's him reminding me BobS: what good are kids anyway, ' BobS: cept to keep parents in line Pamela: and to give you insanity - I hear they're good at that rich-c: yeah, sure you have enough, Bob? bair: you need kept in line Pamela: I'll remember that, Bob rich-c: watch out, Bob. she'll be plotting with Meeka BobS: probably bair: 4:00 comes pretty early Pamela: Me?? Plot?? Never! :) Ron: well, guess that's it at the front door rich-c: well, an hour later now than it did last month Pamela: Is that your alarm time Bob? How awful BobS: BUT 'tis the bewitching hour ya'll.....and 'tis my cue to wander yonder and head for bed Ron: sleep well good sir rich-c: take it easy, Bob BobS: the bride is yawning and yawing and gaping, etc Pamela: Bed ...Hmm. Interesting idea. BobS: see you all nex week????? YES!!!!!!!!!! Ron: yes!! BobS: ;-) Pamela: Yes! rich-c: we're counting on it BobS: bye!!!!!
BobS left chat session rich-c: nite now Pamela: You know, I think he might be onto something Pamela: Maybe I should consider trying this sleep thing too Ron: you mean the lie horizontally with eye closed thing? Pamela: Nahhhh. rich-c: yes, though I think it will be a bit before I start logging sack time Ron: they say it works ok Pamela: That would be it Ron Ron: but I wouldn't know Pamela: I hear it helps if you lie down rich-c: depends on how stiff the knee is Pamela: true rich-c: did the medicine man put you on medication, Ron? Ron: well, if I got to bed before 2 am Ron: it would be different Pamela: sheesh Ron, you're going to bed as some of us get up Ron: nothing more than Tylenol at the moment. Have an appointment next Tues Ron: when the X-ray results are known Ron: that's about it rich-c: there are choices; my doctor favours Arthrotec at the moment Ron: yes, so I understand, but first we must know what we're dealing with Ron: could be strained ligaments from curling as well Pamela: Hmm, and he won't give me Vioxx. I don't get it rich-c: yes, you may need an injection of lubricant or something Pamela: How come he likes you? Ron: could be rich-c: possibly, Ron, but doesn't that get more to the thigh muscles? Ron: not the way I deliver a rock rich-c: Pam, what's Vioxx and why might you want it? Ron: the point of greatest pain is exactly where my right knee contacts the ice during delivery Pamela: Anti inflammatory - heel pain and early arthritis Ron: so we shall see Pamela: Ron, would it help if you quit landing on the knee? rich-c: our doctor is fairly conservative in his treatments Ron: yes Pamela: there you go Ron: If I was Russ Howard, I would not do it that way Ron: even the padding there doesn't work Pamela: I wouldn't want your bruises Ron: that's the odd part. There are none Pamela: Really? rich-c: maybe you should just specialize in sweeping Ron: an idea indeed rich-c: limp. sweep. limp. sweep, ... Pamela: tee hee Ron: conjures up interesting images eh? Pamela: slip, fall, !@#$%, go back to serving Ron: this week they've gone to the spares list. Ron: I'm not there Pamela: Which reminds me Ron, I've always wondered, what kind of shoes does one wear on the curling ice? rich-c: at the moment I am somewhat on the limp and not sure why rich-c: got a sore muscle in the groin area and rest doesn't ease it Ron: it's basically a sports shoe, but one sole has smooth slider attached to it Ron: the other is nomal for grip Ron: your lead foot has to be free to slide Pamela: what's normal, rubber? rich-c: not to mention arthritic knee and sort of hot feeling areas on top of my thign and lower leg Ron: yes, usually, something that will grip Ron: you got it Rich Ron: which is what makes me think Pamela: Dad, are those hot areas really red and sensitive? Ron: that's what I'm dealing with rich-c: not red at all and not especially sensitve - why? Ron: right - this sensation is definately not external -- comes from within Pamela: Cos those are my symptoms, including the groin soreness, adn the Doc said I have a strep infection in the lower right leg that was the cause of my "flu" rich-c: they're OK when I'm walking but not if I stand still for a while Ron: or sit. Things tend to seize up if I sit Ron: better if I get up and walk around rich-c: maybe I should have a little chat with him - probably due for a flu shot anyway Ron: listen to us old two Pam eh? Pamela: That's why I'm on the antibiotics - to combat the strep infection rich-c: yes, as you age you get moving or stop moving, no in-between Ron: right Pamela: This is very important gents - if you get those symptoms go to the Doc right away rich-c: I was wondering, since they're useless against the flu virus Pamela: This si the same sort of infection that can lead to flesh-eating disease Ron: yes I know rich-c: message received and understood Pamela: Scared the s**t out of me, believe me Pamela: And yes, Dad, get a flu shot Ron: Mother and I are going next week. They got a free clinic for people like us Pamela: Dad don't tell Mom right now - she has enough to worry about at the moment
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changed username to rich-c Pamela: Dad, you're on twice rich-c: sorry, someone pulled the plug onm me Ron: double double rich-c: one's a ghost but don't know which Pamela: did you get the bit about Mom? rich-c: so I'll stay twins since I'll be logging off soon anyway Pamela: Ron, flu shots are free to everyone in Ontario rich-c: and Pam no I didn't Pamela: Don't tell her about the leg - she has enough to worrry about right now Pamela: We lost Bair rich-c: right, though I doubt it's the same problem you have Ron: not here. If I'm not in the category, I pay 10 bux rich-c: mine has been building and persisting for several weeks Ron: but I don't because I am Ron: ?/ Pamela: Yes, it made sense Ron Pamela: I meant about me Dad Ron: yes rich-c: here someone told Mike Harris it was cheaper to innoculate everyone than hospitalize several Pamela: I'll know more about it Friday - I go back at 3:00 rich-c: OK, keep us posted Pamela: Will do Ron: no doubt rich-c: anyway, about time to pack it in, I'd reckon Pamela: Yup, beddie byes time Pamela: Since tomorrow I have to work rich-c: especially if the program is getting temperamental Pamela: 6:30 comes much too early rich-c: that it does - sleep tight, daughter Ron: right Pamela: I will. Good night rich-c: Ron, guess we'd better call it quits till next week Pamela: poof
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