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changed username to Rich Drushel rich-c: hi Rich Rich Drushel: Hello Richard. rich-c: maybe to prevent confusion, you should consider signing in as Dr. D Rich Drushel: Okay, I could do that...back in a flash. rich-c: though what my option wil be if Rich Cossaboon ever joins us is a problem
Rich Drushel changed username to Dr. D. Dr. D.: Couldn't find the menu choice for the name change... rich-c: have you had a chance yet to help Eric Pearson?
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: No, I only skimmed the messages in that thread...I haven't given any real thought to it. Dr. D.: This evening I was scanning some more ColecoVision Programmers' Manual stuff.
changed username to BobS rich-c: scanning and cleaning up, I gasther rich-c: hello Bob BobS: howdy young-uns!!!! Dr. D.: There are some sections which absolutely have to be retyped, they are completely illegible unless you know the info already. rich-c: with more cleaning than scanning, I'll wager Dr. D.: Hi Bob. rich-c: well, you have a couple of volunteers, it seems Dr. D.: Well, for the legible stuff that's scanned already, yes. rich-c: anyway, Pearson does need some help that's pretty much your baliwick, or Dale's rich-c: not that Ron hasn't made a valiant and most useful attempt Dr. D.: I'm out of town all day tomorrow, so it will have to be Friday. BobS: turkey day!!!!!!!! rich-c: c'est la vie, but it will be appreciated BobS: hey Dr D scan me a copy of Powerpaint that printds to dot matrix from the hard drvie will ya??? rich-c: right, you folks have your Thanksgiving tomorrow, don't you? Dr. D.: Yes, turkey...Joan is actually off work this Thanksgiving, though she has to work evening shift Fri-Sun. rich-c: Is that Michigander being uppity, Rich? BobS: ya sure rich-c: OK, figured you wouldn't be losing your touch, Bob Dr. D.: Still haven't dug out my MW system... rich-c: by the way, the saw trick worked just fine - many thanks for the advice BobS: bummer DUDE BobS: nno problem, glad to help a "northerner" Dr. D.: Sunday, on my way back from Dayton, I stopped by to see Pat Williams and Sandy Schwering, two "retired" members of B.A.S.I.C. rich-c: speaking of niortherners, we got a mis-addressed package in the mail yesterday Dr. D.: They are now so retired that they made me take all their ADAM stuff... rich-c: the return address was in Nunavut Dr. D.: They asked me to convert their game floppies over to ADAMEM disk images so they can play them. rich-c: good, Dr. D., you can have a basement like the rest of us Dr. D.: This stuff had to go in the garage, the basement is full. Dr. D.: 2 complete systems, about 4 floppy drives, a HD system...scads of software. Dr. D.: Also what looks like a complete run of Nibbles 'n' Bits. Dr. D.: Plus the usual stack of NIADs. rich-c: for the cartridge games, the ROM images are easily available BobS: owwww. a REAL haul, so to speak rich-c: yes, lots of good stuff there BobS: jkljlk BobS: testin....... Dr. D.: No, they don't have cartridge games, they have non-cartridge games on floppy disks. rich-c: migod, he;s talking Klingon Dr. D.: It's getting slow... BobS: welllll.....Telegames kind of put a stop to that Richard rich-c: which means shifting them to TDOS and using Clone.com and Image.com and stuff? rich-c: guess Dale or someone is using a lot of server cycles BobS: no lie BobS: no way!!! BobS: you just put them ointo a disk drive and tell adamem to read it and put it into a file rich-c: it's the nature of the graphics biz BobS: works REAL swell
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changed username to rich-c rich-c: back in, but for how long?
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changed username to BobSlopsema rich-c: see were back Bob BobSlopsema: you are twins man BobSlopsema: who to kill......... rich-c: ignore it, one will go away BobSlopsema: I dropkicked the connection and retried rich-c: when the applet acts up, it's better not to fiddle BobSlopsema: true BobSlopsema: this is MUCH better rich-c: anyway, we all obviously got dumped BobSlopsema: things kinda stopped and no talk so i closed it down rich-c: my guess is that the server was being used for something else and we fell off the prioity list BobSlopsema: could be BobSlopsema: taled to Dale or Jill lately???? rich-c: I got dumped then dumped again on atempted reentry BobSlopsema: they should be inthe new house by now rich-c: no, I have no contact with them outside chats and cons BobSlopsema: just got a email for the Dale!!!! BobSlopsema: he says the chat is cacelled tonight because he is moving to a new place!!!! BobSlopsema: hmmmmmmmm rich-c: well, let's carry on till it boots us off BobSlopsema: maybe it is up at the new place rich-c: but once it does I guess we might as well give up BobSlopsema: y4es, IF we get dumped, hang it up rich-c: maybe Dr.D got the email and abandoned retrying BobSlopsema: whatcha know about BASIC?????? BobSlopsema: I will emial him rich-c: vast fund of ignorance, why? rich-c: test rich-c: hope no newbies are trying and being denied entrance BobSlopsema: jsut sent Dr D and emial rich-c: hoping Ron will come on; I mailed his order today BobSlopsema: I need to change or otherwise wreck the christmas disk, hope Rion shows up soon BobSlopsema: Ron...s in Mitchell???? rich-c: you got it
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: that's likely Dr.D Guy B.: Greetings All! BobSlopsema: check yoru emial a minute and you will get Dale's message.....don't know what it means/..... rich-c: Why hello Guy! BobSlopsema: has just movef the sefrver BobSlopsema: or is going to move it tonight BobSlopsema: HI GUY rich-c: last time Itried multitasking from this applet it froze me out rst of the night rich-c: I'll check my email after signing off, but that's it rich-c: what's the word from Chicago, Guy? Guy B.: Just discovered that I can't run Netzero on the P133. Not enough memory, even though I have 32mb in there. Guy B.: Got into the 50's today and will be the same for tomorrow. BobSlopsema: bullshit, I can here rich-c: greast heavens, how many banners are they dumping on you, anyway? rich-c: we were up to 45 today and will be hanging around there next few days rich-c: the wind was cold but we had sunny intervals which helped matters Guy B.: Probably too many icons running in my system tray, plus changing the screen resolution from 640 by 480 to 800 by 600 doesn't help. Your right Bob, it should run. I had an older version that did work. rich-c: what is there about NetZero's software that is grossly different from the usual dialup connection? rich-c: other than the snooper stuff, that is Guy B.: You have to use their propietory software. rich-c: yeah, I know that, they can't monitor your activities otherwise rich-c: but do you clear your cookie cache and history files regularly? Guy B.: At least with the Platinum, you don't have the banner ads. Guy B.: I usually let Norton's fast and safe cleanup do that for me. I have it scheduled to run every 15 days. BobSlopsema: Netzero.is why I dumped Netrzero !!!!!!! BobSlopsema: got a local phone co and it is just like Corcomm is, plain vanilla internet explorer rich-c: I clear all internet files and history at shutdown, and disable cookies Guy B.: Juno still has their free service. And they have the same platinum service as Netzero and the same price too. rich-c: that's the kind that works, Bob, like I've been saying all along
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changed username to Judy rich-c: hello Judy Guy B.: Hi Judy. Bo'b getting frustrated again. Judy: Hi, Who are you all? Judy: that is nothing new!!! Judy: that should have been how are you all Guy B.: Are you all set for Thanksgiving tomorrow? rich-c: in Toronto, all doing fine BobSlopsema: yes Judy: are you ready fo r Turkey day? rich-c: Pam is coming over for dinner tomorrow BobSlopsema: going to a restaurant, can ya believe that?????? rich-c: ours was Oct. 8th Judy: yes I am, we are going out to dinner Judy: How about you Guy? Guy B.: I am. I'll be spending Thanksgiving at my sister in-law's house. Going to be a few of us there. Jeanene and the rest of the her family are having Thanksgiving at her sister's downstate. rich-c: keep forgetting that by Illinois standards, you're a northerner, Guy Guy B.: Besides, I'm going to give lessons on the Internet to my brother in-law. Heaven forbid. rich-c: aw come on Guy, the internet is easy BobSlopsema: we are going courtesy of the in laws Judy: sounds like fun! rich-c: the only tricks you have to learn deal with security Guy B.: My sister in-law won't do it. She's afraid he'll screw the computer up. So I volunteered to help him out. rich-c: and Zone Alarm and a few trips to grc.com will square that away Judy: my whole family is getting together for the first time in several years. Guy B.: That's great Judy. Are you hosting? BobSlopsema: fun, fun FUN !!!!!! rich-c: sounds like it will be quite the bash, Judy rich-c: how many people will be there? BobSlopsema: hope not that Rich Judy: hope it will go all right. Judy: 25 I think. rich-c: wow, the restaurant will love that! Guy B.: Wow, that's quite a bunch. rich-c: I hear trade isn't what it used to be these days rich-c: they should give you a private room and wine all around Judy: probably, great tip for someone
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: yes, the staff should be pretty happy too
changed username to i-MacRon BobSlopsema: yea right, what we will get is SCREWED i-MacRon: yo! rich-c: Hi Ron, your board is in the mail BobSlopsema: Ronie me boy!!!!!! i-MacRon: tks my son Guy B.: Well, don't need to ask Ron that question tonight. How are you? i-MacRon: good Judy: Hello, Ron i-MacRon: and all of you? Guy B.: I still haven't setup the Mac Performa yet. BobSlopsema: Christmas card.....HOW in the heck do I edit the hgr pictures?????? Judy: Do you get a turkey day on the island? rich-c: nope, he's Canadian rich-c: had it back in October i-MacRon: be interested to know how much memory it has i-MacRon: Oct i-MacRon: been there, killed it, ate it Guy B.: So do I. I have some Cd-roms that came with it. Mac OS 7.6.1 is included. i-MacRon: Now we got Trumpeter Swans all over Judy: that sort of gets it out of the way.. rich-c: this year it fell on our wedding anniversary i-MacRon: they come here every year i-MacRon: Hope you guys celebrated well rich-c: yes, you're on the Pacific flyway, aren't you, Ron? BobSlopsema: tomorrow my son i-MacRon: yup i-MacRon: we even have a local society who preserve and defend rich-c: waterbirds are not a local specialty i-MacRon: wouldn't expect rich-c: though we apparently have the largest known colony of ring-billed gulls Judy: what do you eat than? rich-c: getting some new perching birds, though i-MacRon: turkey i-MacRon: or Alberta beef rich-c: house finches moved in a few years back and are now well established i-MacRon: but it has to be from Alberta rich-c: have had a mockingbird around this year rich-c: and we can expect titmice in the next year or so Judy: why?? rich-c: Canadian beef is bred for less fat i-MacRon: from Ontario I remember whipperwills (sp??) rich-c: whippoorwills are rare in urban areas, but we've encountered them in cottage country the odd time i-MacRon: thank you i-MacRon: consider myself duly edumacated i-MacRon: Rich, now let me get this straight BobSlopsema: but back to my dilemma............. i-MacRon: You mean you got the cheque already? rich-c: we've also had the odd nuthatch and goldfinch visit our feeder, but not often rich-c: got the cheque yesterday, Ron i-MacRon: sorry Bob, did I interrupt something rich-c: unfortunately our postie has us at the end of his walk so delivery is late i-MacRon: It's a plot I tell you. Mail transitting west to east always takes less time that east to west rich-c: so couldn't get the order out same day, but did manage within 24 hours BobSlopsema: got a question for which only YOU can give solutions ronald i-MacRon: More than adequate Rich rich-c: I just hope it gets there OK i-MacRon: oh oh rich-c: I included the disdc which I doubt you need, and the documentation BobSlopsema: annual XMAS card for Dec ANN BobSlopsema: HOW do I edit the pictures????? BobSlopsema: was going to take old Dec issues and remake them into this years issue i-MacRon: Oh yes, I was going to talk to you about that. Are we going to do it? BobSlopsema: but need to edit some pics i-MacRon: well......ummm....... BobSlopsema: I was going to take a whack at it BobSlopsema: BASIC doesn't seem to lod them, PowerPaint won't i-MacRon: ok... so ..... I have used Powerpaint, importing a variety of stuff from here and there i-MacRon: using whatever looks not to grainy and horrid rich-c: I thought Powerpaint could handle any Adam graphics file?
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changed username to BobS rich-c: welcome back Judy: he should be coming back i-MacRon: but there's ton's of clips for Xmas in the ADAM world i-MacRon: which reminds me...... how did you make out with Powerpaint on your HD....seein' as how your source of help i-MacRon: didn't come through i-MacRon: I'm disconnected i-MacRon: Am I still here? BobS: PowerPaint son't load the old pics, and SmartBASIC gives an out of memory error or something rich-c: he is back - I warned him about multitasking within the chat applet Judy: he thought that the chat ended BobS: you are HERE i-MacRon: think my input has started going west to west instead of west to east Judy: he wasn't BobS: wasnn't doing nothing but chattting i-MacRon: around the other way BobS: No PowerPaint yet BobS: freom anywhere's rich-c: Dale is moving so we may get the plug pulled at any moment i-MacRon: Ok.... gotta work on that tonight BobS: that is what I thought happed rich-c: gather he sent an email warning us about it i-MacRon: either that or we're bouncing off the Rockies
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changed username to Eric rich-c: hello Eric - Pearson, right? Eric: Hi everyone BobS: HI Eric
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changed username to Guy B. i-MacRon: I voted yes for the removal i-MacRon: but I can be bought
Eric confirmed ban Guy B.: Someone get rid of the evil twin. i-MacRon: Eric!!! BobS: but sir.....HOW do I load and be able to cvhange the picturesd?????? Guy B.: Hi Eric. Judy: they were trying to do that Eric: Hi Ron rich-c: just leave it, Guy, it will go away on its own BobS: besides, you look GOOD as twins rich-c: anyway, let's welcome our newcomer, Eric Judy: which is the good one? rich-c: from, I believe, IBM, though not sure where BobS: OK, Welcome, welcome!!!!!!! i-MacRon: You haven't used the multi media utilities eh? rich-c: Eric, has Ron's input given you enough clues to solve things yet? Eric: Thanks, good to be here. The baby just went to bed. BobS: no, whassat?????? Guy B.: Well, it's bad enough I was trying to read a file and that's where it got hung up. i-MacRon: Yes, Welcom Eric..... BobS: see?????? multitasking................ i-MacRon: hows the cold? Eric: Seems better tonight, the fever seems to be breaking. i-MacRon: drink hot rums till you can't see the end of the bed BobS: ah YES rich-c: Eric, has anyone mentioned you don't need a Miniscribe hard disc? rich-c: I had one but replaced it with a generic 80 meg, of which 64 is addressable
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changed username to George i-MacRon: correct rich-c: welcome George - a second new member tonight! i-MacRon: actually you can use up to 63 meg BobS: \HI George rich-c: glad you have chosen to join us, George i-MacRon: Eric, from what I read of your qualifications, you should be leading us Eric: Did you determine if the latest IDEPART can format? Eric: haha George: Hi everyone Eric: Hi George rich-c: hi george - this is Eric's first night on too rich-c: we're delighted to have two new folks join us Guy B.: Hi George i-MacRon: Was going to suggest after your last e-mail - next garage sale where there's a 486/66 or better, with a 5-1/4 inch i-MacRon: drive - buy it i-MacRon: actually, even a 486/33 would do Eric: Good suggestion, I'll look around, maybe eBay. ADAMs are fairly hot on eBay lately. rich-c: Ron, he could even pick up an original PC with a 360 drive and it would work i-MacRon: yup BobS: right.........been there, done that......zippo i-MacRon: They come in handy for your newly chosen hobby Guy B.: Me too. Until it died. Now those drives are in another PC. rich-c: really, Eric? must confess I haven't looked at eBay for months i-MacRon: There is a complete ADAM emulator package written by Marcel DeKogel in Holland (Public Doman and downloadable) i-MacRon: and a set of conversion utilities Eric: Picked up 2 disk drives the other day. rich-c: Ron, your suggestion is because the emulator will run on the 486, right? i-MacRon: Also, Rich Drushels ADAMServe program which will allow you to use the DOS box for hard drive access and comm port access i-MacRon: yes Rich i-MacRon: It'll run on a 386, but you don't want to die waiting rich-c: In Toronto, used 3.5 floppies are on offer at $5 each i-MacRon: aha rich-c: George, we're trying to solve Eric's hard disc problem rich-c: it has stopped booting for him BobS: justWHAT IS his problem?????? i-MacRon: Told Eric a couple of days back that it looks like he's going to have to low level format that Drive, and i THINK the BobS: ADAM w. ide card and ide hard drvie???? Eric: Seems the boot sector has gone the way of the dodo. i-MacRon: latest revision of IDEPART.CoM will do it, but I have to go practice before I start gassing on i-MacRon: Got your address Eric. Eric: That's great Ron. George: are you talking about an IDE drive on adam? rich-c: yes i-MacRon: yes i-MacRon: IDEPART11.COM BobS: you got the original EOS boot disk?????? rich-c: most of us have them, some even use them' George: this is new to me BobS: that boots the hd with NO boot on the hd and then you can install the syetem rich-c: that's OK, George, that's why chatting is so useful BobS: brings the ADAM into the millinium George i-MacRon: sounds like all Eric got was a TDOS datapack BobS: that sucks Eric: I have the EOS boot tape. But it just freezes. rich-c: well, he bought it in Texas Judy: well, I will be calling it a night, bye all, talk at you next week!! i-MacRon: hmmmm...... rich-c: night Judy, enjoy the big dinner tomorrow BobS: AHSO!!!!!! from the Terry fella, eh??? Eric: bye Judy Eric: Yep i-MacRon: yes, because somewhere in the boot sequence, it checks for the presence of a hard drive
Judy left chat session i-MacRon: and if it doesn't find one it dies Eric: It does that very well BobS: did it originally boot into EOS or go directly to tdos????? i-MacRon: however...... seems to me that there was a message -- to the effect ide hard drive not found ???? Eric: Directly into EOS menu i-MacRon: Wouldn't be the first ADAM data pack that got zapped in transit i-MacRon: Eric, did you say you have an ADAM disk drive? Eric: Never really used the EOS data pack until the hard drive wouldn't boot, so I don't know if it worked previously. Eric: I have one disk drive and 2 more on the way. i-MacRon: ok what I should do, or one of us should do is send you the boot program on disk. I have one here that I know works i-MacRon: see if that makes any difference i-MacRon: it may, or it may not Eric: Will do, appreciate it. BobS: BUT Ron, is it the full fledged boot or is it just the disk you made when installing the system????? i-MacRon: anybody else closer got one of these setups actually in service? rich-c: folks, I have just tried my hard disc i-MacRon: and.... rich-c: it won't boot from my EOS boot disc BobS: and, and....... BobS: yes, got them here Ron rich-c: but it will boot from the TDOS boot disc i-MacRon: Eric is in Poughkeepsie rich-c: but when I type EOS from TDOS, it goes to the Smartwriter entry screen BobS: Eric, email me !!!!!!!! adamcomputer@netzero.net i-MacRon: oh oh rich-c: any clues from this? or comments? BobS: give me your address and I will send the disk. TDOS boot on one side, EOS boot onthe other i-MacRon: good.... will be faster than from here i-MacRon: we have the Rockies ya know. Slows things down BobS: of course, island time is more relaxes Eric: E-mail on the way Bob. i-MacRon: that's wierd Rich. Could be that your EOS boot block needs service BobS: might be next Mon before ai get around tuit but..... BobS: I will get to it rich-c: just trying something - brb Eric: Understandable with holidays and all. Whenever you have time. i-MacRon: I don't know how people with modern computers survive
moved to room Meeting Place i-MacRon: life must be so boring i-MacRon: Still think Eric, that the reformat will have to be done. i-MacRon: but this is less drastic, and if it works
changed username to BAIR rich-c: tried leaving the hard disc on and shutting Adam off and on again rich-c: that didn't do it either rich-c: thought it might be a problem of recognition on the Adamnet i-MacRon: start the whole thing up again i-MacRon: brb - going to the other side of the room rich-c: greeting to Big Bob the Bair rich-c: thought you said you were going into hibernation BAIR: hi every one Eric: Hi BobS: BAIR !!!!!!! rich-c: no snow over teh roof peak in Indiana yet, Bob? Guy B.: The Bair is here. How are you? BAIR: not yet BobS: HI Bair, Judy just now got off the chat, she waqs waiting for you and got tired of waiting rich-c: Eric, I think I have the same problem you do BAIR: sorry but i have been watching a show rich-c: both my original and backup boot discs won't boot it in EOS
i-MacRon left chat session rich-c: nor will it go from TDOS to EOS Eric: You mean with the EOS boot, not the hard drive in general. BAIR: did she want some thing BobS: no, just to say HI to you and Virginia rich-c: right - I can access the TDOS part of teh drive, no sweat BobS: YES BAIR, she want to see your sweet faces in Grand Rapids for AC 14 come august BAIR: hope every one ahappy turckey day rich-c: but I just get the flash of the hard disc splash screen in EOS, then default to Adam entry screen BobS: heck it is practically your back yard Eric: I must be contagious. rich-c: yeah watch it Bob, if the snow's gone by then we might come down and getcha BAIR: we are still talking no answer yet rich-c: you just don't know how long it is since I've booted up that drive, Eric rich-c: also everything is on a master power bar rich-c: but I turned on the ahrd disc after the Adam rich-c: that can sometimes cause the Adam to decide there ain't nothin" there BobS: Hello y-all this is manda's boyfriend.... rich-c: hi, back with us again I see BobS: and i must say a lot better looking than the person who usually uses this screenname hahahaha BAIR: NO BobS: yep they can't get rid of me rich-c: I assume that's Mandyu's opinion, anyway BobS: i would hope so BobS: so how is everone tonight? BobS: anyone out there? BAIR: yea rich-c: Ron, how do I park the heads on my hard disc - quick
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changed username to Ron rich-c: I want to shut it down BobS: bob says shift wildcard together ron..... Ron: back rich-c: ok thanks BobS: your welcome Ron: does it work? rich-c: the noise from the fasn was driving me nuts BAIR: ron you can't eat if you don't have some for all of us Ron: wasn't eating BAIR, honest Ron: just trying to get near my ADAM which was on the other side of the room BobS: <-------young ears over here hehehe BAIR: that soun;ds bad BobS: what yeawr was the adam created? rich-c: yes, you need a wide angle lens to do full justice to the portrait of the Snake Pit BobS: year** Ron: exactly BAIR: 1983 BobS: wow i was 8 Ron: speaking of pics Rich... who was that senior gent at the AC02 registration table? Ron: the one I posted rich-c: min - brb BobS: <-------needing to go change my diaper BAIR: i could look it up in my books rich-c: Ron, dont know, maybe Doc? Ron: Eric - just for your info, I'm posting a bunch of ADAMCON pictures I just found on a website, and seeing how many can be identified Ron: Some of them I don't even know any more
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changed username to Guy B. Ron: he was, I believe, an MTAG member at the time rich-c: senior momnet - name wont come to me Ron: don't you hate it when that happens? rich-c: hell of a nice guy - former Chief Coroner for Ontario capping a colourful career BobS: okay i am lost Guy B.: Me too. BobS: thank gosh i am not hte only one hahahaha Ron: yes, I remember someone telling me that BobS: the*** BAIR: i have the first magazine wrote by coleco Ron: will have to improve the looks of that site. Don't like the template Apple forces me to use Guy B.: Which is? rich-c: he was writing is memoirs on the Adam using a 20" tv screen Ron: wow rich-c: couldn't use anything else 'cause the print was too small for his eyesight rich-c: but the Adam served him just fine BobS: hahahahahaha Ron: actually you know, the ADAM did have that advantage at the time George: i have a 5" screen Ron: still does actually BobS: where are y-all from? rich-c: Ron, give Eric and George the url for your site so they can take a peek at the Snake Pit Ron: right.... Ron: senior's moment....... wrote it down here somewhere rich-c: that's my line, Ron BobS: senior's moment???? where are the AARP cards at? rich-c: mine's in my wallet, since you ask BobS: you are only as old as you feel rich-c: got a CARP card too (Canadian flavour)
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changed username to bair Ron: there'll be more as 'rounttuits' permit rich-c: also see http://hollowdreams.com to see what we look like rich-c: or is that .org? Ron: .com George: my url is http://hometown.aol.com/gwahl53937 there's not much there but a goofy pic of me using my video cam rich-c: you can always echo Meeka's pages, Ron Ron: yeah we got more pictures in cyberspace that your average nutty computer group Ron: hey, there's a thought BobS: hay i know meeka Ron: Actually the whole idea was initially to put them up there so Meeka could copy them Ron: but I haven't told her that yet rich-c: really? I thought Meeka's site predated yours BobS: alright y-all it was nice to talk to you i guess i best let bob back on here before he starts jonsing Ron: yes it does, but she only has the later pics BobS: good night y-all once again nice talking to you rich-c: I'm still trying to unearth some of my early ones - know I have them, but where? Ron: Go straight home Bob rich-c: they aren't with the regular stash of photos, unfortunately BobS: <----Kris not Bob Ron: we need a central repository of pics, and Meeka is it rich-c: when I do stumble across them there will be a whole bunch of AC02 pics bair: night bob tell judy hi try earlier nextweek Ron: are ya still on the right side of the ground Bob Bair? bair: oh yae Ron: good man bair: wich is the right side rich-c: how's the motocross construction going? bair: added two more hills BobS: how big a course yo have now?????? bair: last week had 12 bikes rich-c: oops - slowdown or has the plug been pulled? Guy B.: Well gang, I'm going to run. Happy Thanksgiving to all in the USA. See you all later. BobS: have ahappy day GUy Ron: yes ..... feast well gain weight BobS: NOT gain weight!!!!! Ron: Anyway Bob S. Ron: give me a week with the Xmas Card. Think I can get to it BobS: da idea is to eat a little of all and enjoy it all rich-c: be by on Saturday, Guy? rich-c: Ron, Frances says she likes your picture of teh Snake Pit rich-c: she wants to know if you'd like to come by and tidy up ours now Ron: Or do you really want to do it? Guy B.: No, feast well, do lots of walking thereafter. Ron: hah! she does does she Eric: Ron, is the Snake Pit yours? Ron: some nights I look at it and go......What a heap of junk! Ron: yes sir and that's only one wall BobS: no, I don't care Ron....I jsut didn'twant to bother ya and thought I could do it., but ran into problems BobS: trying to lolok at the pics Ron: when we have brown-outs on Vancouver Island, they always come here Eric: Ron have you ever seen this page: http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/copper.html Ron: Ok well I'll see how far I get in the next 7 days rich-c: you should have seen his apartment when he was living in Ottawa Ron: no I haven't eric. gonna load it up and look bair: most of tims ground bair: by
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changed username to <undefined> rich-c: sorry - didn't twig to the abbreviation immediately Ron: e-mail me a piece of pie George Eric: Got disconnected <undefined>: BAIR rich-c: I'll asettle for a cookie - email me a chocolate George: for tomorrow Eric: In Smartbasic how do you get a catalog of another drive? BobS: catalog,d6 Ron: Oh wow! This sounds like a man I can relate to Ron: Tim Copper rich-c: just catalog dx where x is the drive number Eric: Some collection huh BobS: d6 is disk drive 2, d1, is tape drive 1 and d2 is tape drive 2 Guy B.: See how it goes.
Guy B. left chat session Ron: Good Lord.. I thought I had a problem rich-c: do you not have a SmartBASIC manual, Eric? George: how do you access disk in smartlogo?
<undefined> changed username to BAIR Eric: Great, thanks Bob. Yeah but i didn't see that in there. What happened to Smartbasic 2.0? BobS: nuthin Ron: still around Eric. Nobody used it much rich-c: SETDEV 4 BobS: SmartLOGO says,.......SETDEVICE # and follow the protocol for #'s Ron: That's better Ron: I think Eric: I asked because nobody seems to sell it. I saw 1.0 and 1.X. rich-c: It's PD so you have to ask. No one lists PD discs - too many, too costly to do so Ron: SmartBASIC 2 is public domain BobS: smartbasic 2 is publicv domain Ron: echo in here BobS: huh....huh Ron: except one part of it can't spell BobS: true rich-c: well, we invite new folks to ask questions rich-c: just shows how eager wevall are to help out Ron: the problem with Smart Basic 2.0, Eric, was that while it was capable of adding a memory expander to BAIR: GOT TO BE SMART TO ASK QUESTIONS BobS: no Bair, just curious rich-c: oh, I don't know, I do it all the time Ron: contiguous RAM, through bank switching, it took unacceptably long to do so George: what is the national adam computer council? Ron: programs that used the extra RAM were sloooow BobS: SB 2 was really implemented to add some commands for basic to work with Ron: a body of governing farts who meet when the moon is full rich-c: If I recall, George, it was a for-profit user group from long ago Ron: seriously, Rich is right BAIR: do they have long teeht Ron: yeah BAIR ,exept the spell them teeth Eric: Is any version of Smartbasic able to use relative files? BobS: before my time, it was,.....I IS young ya know rich-c: tell us about it, grandpa Bob Ron: no. you have to get into CP/M or TDOS for that BobS: depends on what your relatives LOOK like Eric: or random access if you prefer BAIR: will see that is why i don't ask queations i can't sjpell either Ron: memory management was not a strong forte in the 8 bit world BobS: but we knows what you arte taklin aabout Bair Ron: oh....ok, yes...... there was a way Ron: going to a start point or offset then reading the next x numnber of bytes Ron: like PUT or GET? rich-c: isn't that what a database does internally? Ron: here's where I wish Guy Cousineau was still with us BAIR: i have a cold and i was told not to say up to late happ y T day to every one rich-c: or Dr. D. had stayed on after we got booted early rich-c: he'd probably write a patch to do it Ron: yeah, he'd know
BAIR left chat session rich-c: goodnight Bair, see you next week Ron: drink hot rums Bair rich-c: it won't cure anything but you wont care Eric: brb BobS: but trouble is, Dr d is kinda bogged down with family and work BobS: what's the recipe for hot rums thingies rich-c: yes, he seems to do enough for any three people Ron: with that many daughters, there are bound to be other priorities Ron: In an 8 ounce glass... Ron: one ounce of water Ron: 7 hounces of rum Ron: add cinnamon, put the whole mess in the microwave rich-c: hang hat on bedpost... Ron: Repeat as required BobS: and, and ya only need ONE rich-c: adrink rum... rich-c: when second hat appears, desist rich-c: anyway, George, any questions arising from what you've seen so far? BobS: probably "what are you guys, NUTS????" rich-c: naw, the answer to that is obvious George: sorry i was away starting my pies rich-c: but we're harmless nuts, at least to everything except the budget BobS: well troups, I gotta REtire to the four poster bed Judy just got last month............. rich-c: oh, is that why you got her the new Grand Marq? BobS: see ya maybe Sat or fur sure nextr Wed Ron: sorry guys on the phone George: i have a lot to learn BobS: ya right
BobS left chat session rich-c: OK, I'll try to check by Sat at 3 if Dale has it up rich-c: trust me, George, we all have a lot to learn rich-c: too little life, too much information Ron: will sign off see ya's next week rich-c: curse of our age, and its greatest blessing rich-c: OK Ron, see you then Ron: niters rich-c: Anyway, Eric and George, thank you both for dropping by rich-c: I do hope you've found it rewarding enough to try again next week Eric: Sorry... Eric: had to give baby her medicine rich-c: right, keep forgetting you're a new papa Eric: Yep, was good to be here, I'll drop by next week. rich-c: terrific. Have a long list of questions ready rich-c: and I'll fiddle with my hard disc and see if I can find an answer rich-c: if it works for me maybe it will work for you George: i'll try for saturday Eric: Probably will. Let me know how it turns out, nite all rich-c: good show, George rich-c: we usually come on promptly at 3 p.m. and hang around 15 minutes waiting for someone to turn up rich-c: if no joy in that time, we go away home rich-c: Bob sometimes sends an email around the mailing list seeking chatters Eric: Have a wedding on Saturday, but will try to be here next Wed rich-c: Nite Eric, will do
Eric left chat session George: Nite Eric rich-c: George, I still have to put out the recycling and deal with my email rich-c: so I'm going to have to close it down too rich-c: hope to see you Saturday, if not next Wednesday George: ok, nite rich-c: dont forget - bring lots of questions rich-c: nite for now George: i will
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