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changed username to //\\//\\ichael //\\//\\ichael: (PRIVATE) hi Michael //\\//\\ichael: heelo
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changed username to james //\\//\\ichael: heelo James james: good morning //\\//\\ichael: how are things in Japan? james: or at least morning. i won't say it's good as i barely got 3 hours sleep. james: now.. rainy and busy :)
moved to room Meeting Place //\\//\\ichael: glad to hear you are busy I guess it is really early there! :-)
changed username to BobS BobS: Hiya guys!!!!! james: it's about 11 am. i'm supposed to have a class now but my student hasn't shown up yet. //\\//\\ichael: Hello Bob james: hey bob. BobS: Michael!!!!! welcome ya'll BobS: James, how's Miyuki doing??? //\\//\\ichael: Oh well time for a chat then James james: not too bad. getting big. james: yeah, if she doesn't show up in about 15 minutes i'll chat for a bit and then take a nap. //\\//\\ichael: Bob so good to see you here it's been a while eh! BobS: yes like since toronto????
moved to room Meeting Place //\\//\\ichael: you got it!! james: she just showed up. i may or may not be back later. pretty tired and i have to teach tonight so a nap is in order. james: please say hi to everyone for me. james: cheers.
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changed username to Dr. D. BobS: ssay HI to Miyuki!!!!!! //\\//\\ichael: take care cjames we'll let them know you we here BobS: hey Dr D Dr. D.: Bye James, on your way out... rich-c: michael, glad to see you did make it //\\//\\ichael: Richard Made it too Wonderful BobS: you been following this virus thing???? Dr. D.: Hi Michael.
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: hi Bob Dr. D.: I am virus-free 'cause I'm Microsoft-free. Guy B.: Greetings Everyone! rich-c: and the virus isn't on my machine BobS: hi Guy Dr. D.: Hello Guy. rich-c: evening, Guy //\\//\\ichael: hey Rich have been watching the lego robotitic on your site as well as an ADAM screen saver BobS: EVERYBODY's early this week //\\//\\ichael: welcome Guy Dr. D.: Haha...glad someone besides Ron recognized it. Guy B.: Michael, good to hear from you. How is everything? rich-c: oh, I'm told Unix and Apple viruses do exist, they just aren't common Dr. D.: Re: early, I'm early 'cause I gotta go soon...Egg Hunt coming up, I've had too many 20-hour days beginning at 3 or 4 AM. //\\//\\ichael: The robots are really neat I'd wished I had made it last year to learn more Dr. D.: Hoping to get some sleep tonight. BobS: Papers signed boys.......AUGUST 8-11, 2002 is convention Dr. D.: Woo hoo! Guy B.: All right!!! Where at? rich-c: good show Bob we'll put it on the calendar BobS: rIght mate !!!!! //\\//\\ichael: sounds great! rich-c: Dr.D., any chance you're thinking of setting up a backup chat server? Dr. D.: It's at Motel 666...we'll leave the flame on for ya :-) BobS: got an awesome conference room Dr. D.: I never heard any tech specs from Dale about what would be involved... Guy B.: Sounds like you picked a winner. BobS: Comfort Inn, right next to where we held ADAMCON 09
moved to room Meeting Place //\\//\\ichael: not a great deal from what i've heard of it Rich rich-c: any idea if this chat module we're using is still available as a freebie? Dr. D.: I actually do run a very private chat server on my desktop machine, that is only active at the scheduled times when me and my Friend from Finalnd talk.
changed username to George Guy B.: Then, we should have no problem getting there. Guy B.: HI George. BobS: hiya Geogre //\\//\\ichael: yes and a better version if we pay BobS: George rich-c: hello George - where have you been? //\\//\\ichael: welcome George Dr. D.: Hello George. George: hi everyone rich-c: when you didn't answer my emails I was afraid you'd caught a virus George: no. just a bad network BobS: actually, Yahoo has a chat where you can set up a room, I am assuming it works like Dephi only not a permanent location rich-c: Comfort Inns are part of teh Choice group - a Canadian outfit George: my aol was out for a few days rich-c: george, do get something off to me soonest so we can take a crack at your problems' BobS: it was between the Sleep Inn and the Comfort Inn; both kinda linked somehow, but the Conmfort won out because of the conference room, a little more for rooms, but it will budget ok George: ok rich-c: yes, and as we age we value our comfort more rich-c: do they throw in a breakfast or something? BobS: well, George, tell us all what the problem is and we will solve it PRONTO //\\//\\ichael: Well all have a very early hospital appt in the am. will be back soon to hear more about whats up, Take care everyone!! BobS: contintental breakfast with hot items too BobS: be good michael rich-c: more to it than that Bob; he needs moe help than chat can deliver Dr. D.: Hope all goes well, Michael. BobS: oh........bummer DUDE //\\//\\ichael: on my way take care and will see you next week Guy B.: Bye Mike, Glad you dropped by. //\\//\\ichael: poofff rich-c: see you Michael
//\\//\\ichael left chat session George: i think it mainly has has to do with aol they have been doing nasty things lately rich-c: actually AOLs problems may be related to the @Home network bankruptcy BobS: me don;'t like dat AOL thingy rich-c: on the other hand it could be local BobS: vut THAT is MY preference...so there!!! :-) rich-c: my cursor crony in AZ is getting thru to me fine on AOL George: they have part of the aolplus service in cable rich-c: and so is my brother's family on AOL George: the philly area has been very hard hit rich-c: my brother needed a triple bypass Friday so we have shall we say been in communication Dr. D.: Applet window is hung...try to be back in a sec...
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changed username to Robert Miller George: my father had it three years ago rich-c: well hello Robert - it's been a while Robert Miller: Yes, as usual ;o) it has hehehe rich-c: yes, George, now they're so common they're almost a routine operation rich-c: anyway he came through fine and hope to be home next week George: yes my father is better than ever and he's 77
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changed username to Hrothgar Hrothgar: Stupid thing is misbehaving for me tonight... rich-c: now we seem to have someone new
Hrothgar changed username to Dr. D. Dr. D.: No, it was me... rich-c: or am I just missing an allusion to Star Trek or something? Dr. D.: I was P.O.ed at the chat applet and gave it a garbage name... George: that's good my father sill works fulltime as a security guard Dr. D.: Hrothgar Brynwaeldigfas is the name I use for all the "throwaway" online registration things. Dr. D.: When they ask for an E-mail address, I say he's got email@example.com. rich-c: oh, I have a pseudonym too but keep it more plausible Robert Miller: what do you do if someone else already has taken that???? Dr. D.: If a real Hrothgar wants to come back from Saxony and complain, I'll listen to him :-) rich-c: add a number - HrothgarII Robert Miller: Yea right... you should see the spam his decendants now get hehehe BobS: hi Robert!!!!! Dr. D.: I would be surprised if there are 10 living people today whose name is Hrothgar, on the entire planet. Robert Miller: Hey Bob, hows it going? BobS: GREAT, leave for the Caribbean next week and ADAMCON 14 is set.......Aug 8-11, 2002 Dr. D.: General query: when is Jillian's expected delivery date? BobS: you gonna be there?????? BobS: \Jna sometime I think Dr. D.: I knew it was getting close. BobS: Jan BobS: of 2002 rich-c: Guy, found me a rather nice compilation software package on eBay last week Robert Miller: <<< out of touch. Where is it? BobS: Grand Rapids, MICHIGAN Dr. D.: (PRIVATE) Blah BobS: Thurs thru Sun rich-c: Norton Utilities, Anti-Virus, Ghost, Cleansweep, Go-Back and WinFax for $24 delivered BobS: you SHOULD come!!!!!! BobS: $300 gets you 4 nights hotel; convention, linch and breakfast BobS: banquet Robert Miller: I've had 2 planned now that didn't pan out. Family 1st you know. Dr. D.: Re: anti-virus, I read that our dear FBI have instructed Norton and MacAffee how to not detect Uncle Sam's official spyware... BobS: take them along, there is plenty to do here rich-c: I noticed that discussion and that McAfee at least weren't saying anything for publication BobS: SHAME on them!!!!!!! BobS: will have info on my website after Jan 1 rich-c: Bob, teh FBI may have told them how, that doesn't mean they will Dr. D.: And Phoenix (the BIOS people) are shipping motherboards with built-in network spyware on it. Dr. D.: Enabled by default, some versions with no way to deactivate it. rich-c: missed that, Dr. D. - how's it work and what's the point? Dr. D.: It "phones home" whenever you're on the net...if you use MS stuff, it magically sets bookmarks etc. in Exploder. BobS: and this bios does what????????? Guy B.: I have to reboot the system. So, I'll be back.
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moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: To deliver unsolicited advertizing to your desktop. George: oh i'm in trouble BobS: ALL......james sayas HI, was here but left REAL early.......might be back rich-c: why, George? Dr. D.: Maybe someday to even let you boot your machine to an advertizement... Dr. D.: And certainly to tell Chairman Bill what you're doing. George: all the sites i've been at Dr. D.: Of course there has been an outcry against this. rich-c: yes, but your machine is too old for this business Dr. D.: You can read about it at Phoenix's website. rich-c: besides, there are lots of ways to defend yourself rich-c: as I say, answer my email and we'll deal with it rich-c: or if it's up this weekend, come on chat at 3 p.m. Sat and maybe we can do some Dr. D.: Not if it's in the BIOS and the setup program doesn't give you any way to either disable it or even to know if it's there. rich-c: I thought I saw that there had been such protest Phoenix had already canned it Dr. D.: Last I read they hadn't made up their minds...but what I read had some baaaad publicity; let's hope it gets nixed.
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Ok, I'm back Dr. D.: Hey, the logical endpoint is a GPS in every auto, in every person, with some satellite activation code so that someone can find out where you are "if proper authorization has been obtained". rich-c: George, some folks define that as free to snoop on you all they want rich-c: welcome back, Guy, see you had problems getting in Dr. D.: For a price, of course, you'll be able to buy out of it. For a higher price, you'll be able to override someone else's buyout. Like unlisted phone numbers today. rich-c: by the way, Dr.D., have you looked at scumware.com lately? George: let them as long as they don't come in with smartbombs Guy B.: Got hung up. So, I managed to end the session and try again. My system resources were down to 5, that's why I had to reboot. Dr. D.: no, I haven't...never heard of the name. Doesn't sound appetizing, though... rich-c: it talks about scumware; they're people after your own heart rich-c: take a peek, you'll find them fascinating Dr. D.: My brain is about to shut down...I think I'd better adjourn for today and get some sleep. Dr. D.: Glad the server was back up tonight...talk to you all later. rich-c: yes, 20 hours is a limit - take care - see you Sat? Guy B.: Bye Dr. D. Dr. D.: Starbase Cleveland closing hailing frequencies... Dr. D.: Saturday, prob. not, it's my prep day before the Egg Hunt Sunday. Dr. D.: Too busy to chat. rich-c: right - we'll try to peek at the hunt Dr. D.: watch legocam.cwru.edu at 12:30 PM EST and see some LEGO robots. Dr. D.: G'night, all.
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changed username to WB WB: Hello All! rich-c: coulsd well be, Robert - the cam's on even when the lab is closed, I believe BobS: HI Willie!!!!! BobS: long time no see!!! Robert Miller: I'll try again. I'm expecting a mini "battle bots" rich-c: hello Willie - how's Chicago tonight? rich-c: well, not quite battle bots, but they are a hoot WB: Nice and balmy! Extremely nice for Dec. 5. rich-c: if you'd come to the last Adamcon, you'd have got to build and run one
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changed username to Jillian Jillian: Hello! rich-c: yes, Toronto hit 60 today rich-c: hello Jill - how are you two? Jillian: Good. Tired. but good. I have only one more week of work. Guy B.: Hi Jill. Everything settled in your new place? BobS: had 68 degrees F. here today George: hello Jill Robert Miller: <<< Marking down AC on calendar now. rich-c: wow, you're running up pretty close, aren't you? BobS: HI JILL!!!!! Welcome back from your new apt too eh????? Jillian: Well, we're in the new place. hmm... settled? Well no towers of boxes are actually in danger of collapsing. BobS: Judy wants to know "how you doing???""
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changed username to Dale rich-c: sounds like our living room, but we moved in in 1965 Dale: Hi all. Guy B.: Well, let's say your in, but still haven't unpacked everything yet.
changed username to Ronald Guy B.: Hi Dale. Jillian: I didn't want to stay at home and do nothing for too long. Ronald: Hi y'all WB: Hello Dale rich-c: hi Dale, thanks for getting things back up Guy B.: Hi Ron. Mac or PC tonight? Dale: So I'm on through the cable modem, but the server is on DSL where Jill is on. We are about 3 feet apart. Ronald: Great job Dale, given the state of the universe rich-c: welcome Ron, didn't realize you'd checked in too Ronald: P200 Guy Ronald: appreciate all the replies re Krispy Kream - I now know more about the product than I thought I would rich-c: or than you necessarily want to? Ronald: yeah Ronald: will be a while before they get to the ISLAND BobS: Hi Daole, ron........ rich-c: count your blessings Ronald: Mr S. how goes it eh? Ronald: based on your remarks, Rich - that would seem to be a fair statement BobS: Gut, mon!!!!!! rich-c: Tim Hortons, Country Style, Robins, - who needs KK? Ronald: right Ronald: Although our Robins has succumbed to market forces rich-c: Dale, do you know if this chat module is still available? Jillian: Tim's is good enough for me. Especially since I'm more likely to want a bagel with cream cheese than an actual donut. Dale: Last I checked. Ronald: you're my kinda girl Jillian Dale: I am allowed to give it away if you can';t find it else where. rich-c: maybe we should encourage Dr.D. and maybe even Michael to get it for their servers so there would be backup in case Ronald: a contingency communications plan rich-c: with multiple redundancy Ronald: or is that communications contingency plan Jillian: we won't be moving again soon. so hopefully all will be well again, rich. Guy B.: I got a whole bunch of those today with reduced fat cream cheese. rich-c: unless Rogers gets snarky - that seems the main concern rich-c: though Michael said something about being able to keep a static IP address Jillian: I never bother with reduced fat cream cheese. Unless it's strawberry flavoured. Jillian: I think the static IP address is why we now have both DSL and cable. DSL for stability and cable for speed. Ronald: :) Guy B.: Doesn't taste any different, Especially since I already lost 11 pounds. Jillian: Good for you, Jillian: guy! rich-c: and you don't miss the weight either, right, Guy? rich-c: who's your DSL ISP, Dale? Ronald: After Christmas I go for my medical, and once again I will be told about........ Jillian: Dale's getting a drink. It's ica.net Guy B.: I'm going to keep getting this down as long as we don't have any snow yet. Abby and I walk 20 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening. Weekends, it's 45 minutes sometimes. rich-c: smart move, Guy Ronald: yes Jillian: Walking is the best excercise in the world. Ronald: Comes from the 'take my advice, I'm not using it ' dep't. Guy B.: My doctor said it was the best thing for me. rich-c: the younger you do it and the longer you hold to it, the better your life expectancy Ronald: meanwhile rich-c: yes, I'm the horrible example of the one whose sins haven't caught up - yet Ronald: the doughnuts of whatever brand beckon Guy B.: Abby, my dog seems to know too. Sometimes, she takes charge when we go walking. rich-c: resist, Ron Dale: The ica.net lets me host this chat and some other things with a static IP address. The cable modem is at least twice as fast... Ronald: get thee behind me Satan
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changed username to Judy Guy B.: Hi Judy. Dale: and for uploading 5 times as fast. When I work from home, I often find my self uploading 5 meg files. So the speed is useful. rich-c: welcome, Judy BobS: yes, Doug has cable modem and it IS fast Judy: Hi, everyone Jillian: greeting, Judy Ronald: evening Judy BobS: but....us po folks are in thre back hills Dale: Rogers is changing the way they manage their network, and plan to change the IP addresses more frequently (it was about once or twice a year previously). Dale: It is part of the Excite @ Home phase out. Judy: how are you doing Jillian rich-c: I'd always heard that on cable a static IP address was a necessity Judy: is the time going fast now? rich-c: I mean, if you're always on line, you can't be bouncing around, can you? Guy B.: It also affected Excite.Com as well. They changed providers too. I have an e-mail address with them. Jillian: I'm good. Looking forward to next Wednesday(my last day at work) but otherwise good. Dale: My DSL modem is capable of 8megabit down and 640kbit uploading...but I'm on a consumer grade switch which caps the speed at 1.2megabit down and 160kbit up. Judy: thats good Jillian: Time is going fast since we still don't have most of the needed baby furniture. Guy B.: Jill, how long are you going to be on maternity leave? rich-c: the down isn't too bad but the up seems kinda chintzy, Dale Jillian: We have a crib, but I've decided it wouldn't be safe so I'm going to get rid of it. Judy: I just about finished my Christmas shopping today Jillian: I can take up to a year. I get full pay for six weeks and 60% after that. Guy B.: I'm 90% done with mine already. Guy B.: That's pretty good. Dale: It is the same hardware that is used for Sympatico High-Speed edition back at the phone company. Ronald: 20% rich-c: Dale, what is ica charging for DSL? Judy: that is great, that will give you a lot of time with the baby Ronald: we run shower in the west Ronald: when we run at all Jillian: I haven't started Christmas shoppig yet. I don't know what I'll do, but maybe Dale will do it on Dec 24. Dale: The introductory rate is 24.95 for 3 months, then it becomes 34.95/month. rich-c: I assume you have to supply your own modem Guy B.: That's cheaper than what it is here. Ronald: going to Edmonton, so there's the West Edmonton Mall Ronald: Dec 21 - 24 rich-c: well, all your internet prices seem far higher than ours, Guy Ronald: wild eh? Judy: that way you may hit some great sales Dale: Yes, I bought a GVC DSL modem from them for $220. Other DSL providers (dsl.ca is one I think) charge about the same. Guy B.: SBC Ameritech wants $49.95 a month. BobS: well see Santa when you are there Ron Jillian: Should be good prices then Ron. Dale: Guy, I bett that that is US$ too. Ronald: you see EVERYTHING at the WEM Guy B.: It is. Judy: it seems there are quite a few already rich-c: I noticed that teh US cable companies just raised their internet rates too Dale: Rogers charges $39.95/month for the cable modem. Guy B.: I keep forgetting about the difference between the two currencies. Jillian: Maybe I'll get out this weekend, but I may just stick around home and unpack things. Ronald: understand that Shaw Cable may consider charging people extra if they're behind a router Ronald: for whatever is behind the router rich-c: Only $40 a month? Jillian: Dale suggests that I leave shopping until I'm trying to induce labour. Ronald: same here for Shaw - right now rich-c: Cogeco just raised their price to $45/month rich-c: and thatr's for people in a package deal Judy: how is the new place, do you have a lot more room than you had before? rich-c: but then Rogers real rate is $50 - $55/mo too Jillian: We would if we were unpacked. There's alot more storage but most of it is empty right now. Judy: that does not work, Mandy tried that last year Jillian: The cats are really happy though. Dale: Rich, if you don't get basic cable they charge a $10 penalty. But with cable, it is 20/mo for the first 6 months and 40/mo after. Jillian: Having empty closets and stacks of boxes? rich-c: I have satellite so have no use for cable
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changed username to Pamela Judy: put the boxes in the closet Ronald: Is internet service available off the satellite? rich-c: and frankly I dont want a cable ISP $600/yr worth - before taxes Guy B.: My gosh, She's here. Hi Pam Pamela: Now arriving from Toronto . . . Judy: not really the answer is it WB: Hi Pam! rich-c: Hi daughtee Ronald: Pamela! Pamela: Greetings all -Junkyard Wars is over Judy: Hi, Pam Jillian: Most of the boxes are actually plastic bins that we are renting. $1.25 a week which isn't bad but does add up. Jillian: Hi Pam. Guy B.: No, still going. Pamela: Hi, Jill Pamela: We seem to have quite a crowd tonite BobS: ABOUT time Pam!!!!! Guy B.: How's Russell doing? Pamela: He says fine thank you Jillian: I still have packed boxes from when I was in co-op in the storage unit. My goal for the next year is to empty some of them out. rich-c: has Kimberly got the Linux done yet? Judy: yes, but when you are not working you will have a lot of time to empty them. Pamela: Not yet Dad BobS: and, and, james and dr d already left........... BobS: and meeka is not here Pamela: Jillian, when are you due? And how are you feeling? Jillian: I've gotten a commitment from Dale to spend two hours every Saturday in the storage unit for the next year. Judy: we use to move alot and if I didn't need the stuff in a box for a year it needed to be gotten rid of
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changed username to james Guy B.: Morning James. james: wow, full house this morning Pamela: See, someone later than I - hi James james: hi pam WB: Hello James! Pamela: Tap dancing on your bladder, is s/he Jill? rich-c: welcome back james Guy B.: How's the weather in Japan? Judy: the troub;e is now we are not moving and just adding to the stuff, now I wouldn't want to move.. rich-c: I came in just as you left james: rainy and damp. Ronald: On that basis Judy, I just closed my storage unit, saving myself $53.50 a month james: hi rich :) Ronald: Hadn't been out there to look at it in a year Jillian: Mostly between 3 and 4 am. Ronald: 'LO James BobS: see!!!! I toldya'll he might come back Pamela: Dad, Kimberly is having trouble with the 486 - that's why no progress with the Linux Guy B.: We're unseasonably warm here in Chicago, but that will be changing very soon. Back to winter cold. Dale: Hi james. Ronald: Dale, a question Jillian: We spend way more than we should on storage. I really do want to clear out a box a week. but even a box a month would be progress. james: i had a very rough night. despite being dead tired, could not fall asleep until 5 a.m. and have been up since 9. Ronald: while you're here..... Pamela: Jill, don't feel too bad - we moved almost five years ago and there are boxes I still haven't unpacked Ronald: give me one more time the syntax for compiling the ADAMEM source in Linux james: will take a nap soon. i'm in no condition to deal with pre-adolescent girls as things are now. rich-c: that's OK, Pam, we don't need them back yet Guy B.: Whoa, 4 hours sleep. Not very good. When are you due at work? james: hi dale :) how's the new place? Pamela: Hi, Dale james: 5 p.m. Pamela: Sorry, not ignoring you Dale: make Dale: make X Guy B.: Need all the sleep you can get. Dale: So you need to: rich-c: Ron, on the Mandrake Linux distribution Dale: tar -xzvf adamem.tar.gz james: i can function fine on a lack of food or affection but i'm very irritable when i don't get sleep. Ronald: distribution should matter not Dale: then chenge to the adamem directory that you created. rich-c: if you want an extra copy, cheapbytes.com sell just the CD at little more than materials and postage cost Dale: then type 'make X11' I think. rich-c: I bought a copy of the book Linux in 24 hours today Ronald: noted Dale: Just 'make' by it self gives hints. rich-c: it has the Caldera distribution in it Jillian: I tend to be irritable and not realize why when I'm tired or hungry. james: :) james: i usually know why. Ronald: C the final frontier Pamela: Me too - tired is not good for me rich-c: yes, when I'm hungry I tend to eat people Pamela: Just ask my Mom Jillian: Dale usually knows why in my case. rich-c: or so my wife and daughter claim :-) Pamela: Just a few nibbles, Dad Judy: that will go away soon, Jill james: so i've got a few "new" games for my adam :) rich-c: tell us about them, james Ronald: tell us more James james: picked up pac-man (not dac-man) which seems to be a very good port of the arcade and made by atarisoft. Jillian: I worry about people who tell me they can get by on two or three hours a sleep a night for many nights in a row. Especially if they drive on a regular basis.
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: yes, Jill, I don't think I fancy sharing the road with them Pamela: I got dumped! james: also picked up powerlords, dig-dug and joust and a few oldies - illusions and slither. Judy: some people don't need as much sleep as others james: i need 8.5 hours myself. rich-c: where did you find them, james? WB: What is Powerlords James BobS: WB.....wb Ronald: 8 hours - what's that? Jillian: True, but everyone needs some sleep. Right now I'd appreciate about 12 a night, but am getting by on nine. james: did a net search on "powerlords" because i refused to pay $70 on an e-bay auction. came across a guy with a bunch so i bought them. Pamela: That's time horizontal while dreaming of sheep, Ron Judy: some nights I don't get to much more than 3 or 4 hours Pamela: It's called sleep Ronald: ooooohhh Pamela: Something I rarely get enough of james: anyone here played dig-dig? some serious sprite multiplexing going on in that game. Pamela: Not since the arcade, James BobS: powerlords.........an adam game??????? rich-c: did you get physical carts or images, james? Judy: how do you get 9 hours???? Ronald: this is a title of which we have not heard BobS: downloaded it is all rich-c: retire, Judy james: yup. only played it once to make sure it works. oh yeah -also picked up defender to test my 2600 adaptor :D Ronald: nope Rich....that doesn't work james: physical carts. Jillian: I don't do much housework and have cut my commute by an hour each way. james: unfortunately no boxes or manuals but i'm a bright enough lad to figure them out ;) Jillian: I don't know what I'll do when we're having number 2 and I feel this way. Ronald: most certainly James Judy: I just get busier not more time Pamela: Cutting the commute makes a big difference, Jill rich-c: if not, Dr.D. has likely been into them and can tell you james: i love my commute. a 12 second walk from my house. Ronald: you could write the book I'd imagine rich-c: I have docs for many of the cart games BobS: but is PowerLords an ADAM cart????? rich-c: I can scan them and send them if needed Guy B.: Mine's an hour and a half by train. james: it's a "new" colecocart. Pamela: I live for the day when the transporter is perfected BobS: ah ha!!!!! BobS: and you got it where????? Guy B.: Where can we get it at? BobS: some guy had a bunch of them??? Ronald: reminds me of a job I had up coast in the mid 70's. My car was farther away from the front door of the office that I was leaving home Jillian: I'd love a transporter. I really wanted one when we were moving. james: let me check who made it (have my adam hooked up now in the upstairs of my school, where i am now) james: have an isdn flat rate service and internet connection sharing set up. great for spreading viruses across your network ;( Pamela: I can understand that - we moved my sister in law on Friday and it took us from 8:00 am to 6:15 pm, and that was just downstairs rich-c: why, did goner getcha? james: no, badtrans and nimda rich-c: Lindsay has moved? Pamela: Yup, from 502 to 407 BobS: haven't heard of nimba Guy B.: According to what I read today, U.S. Australia, Germany got hit with this virus hard. Asia wasn't so bad. Jillian: I didn't help on the day when we had the truck as I had to work. but the day when we did the final clean up I was up until about 4am. rich-c: guess she didn't like the neighbours ;-) james: okay, the power lords title screen reads: "power lords quest for volcan", copyright 1983, NAP consumer electronics. licensed from strongin-mayer int'l Pamela: No, like the rest of us she's a packrat and needed a two bedroom BobS: hmmmm previouslyunreleaased game?????? rich-c: now she gets to listen to all that thumping around upstairs james: nimda (admin spelled backwards), another e-mail worm. haven't been hit by goner yet. got norton antivirus installed. Pamela: yah, but at least she knows who to complain to james: not sure bob since i don't have the manual. maybe like steamroller. Jillian: I heard it only affected AOL and Outlook users. rich-c: sure, but will Willow and Inky listen? Pamela: Never james: i think the guy i bought them from does game conventions. my guess is that he makes the carts. Ronald: brb good folk Guy B.: Mainly Outlook and Outlook Express. james: ie: burns the proms rich-c: that's one reason I switched to Eudora - less subject to virus attack Dale: I recieved one copy of goner, but it looked like other viruses, so I didn't install it. It is pretty clever though. Pamela: what does it look like? james: i found pac-man interesting for two reasons - it's not, as far as i can tell, dac-man by that gentelman in europe, but actual pac-man. rich-c: you have an antivirus running, don't you, Dale? Jillian: I use Netscape for my mailreader and I haven't been hit by a virus yet. Guy B.: I use Netscape messenger. Don't have much of a problem with it. james: i would never install a screen saver included with a message like that. Dale: Rich, my antivirus is me. Dale: What it looks like is: rich-c: well, if you disable "hide extensions" you see the second one and are warned WB: I have to go good people! Have a safe night and may the powers that be allow you to awake in the morning! james: not a big fan of outlook but so far i've been want for finding a mail client that won't garble japanese. Jillian: Either my netadmin is too crafty or noone is writing viruses for NS. Guy B.: Bye Willie.
WB left chat session Pamela: Thanks, Willy - good to see you rich-c: take it easy Willie and come back soon BobS: sounds plausable James.....got to be a lot of previously unknown games out ther I would think Dale: an email message with an attachment called "goner.scr" -- which is a screensaver. The email message has the subject Dale: "Hi" james: i have a bunch of them. BobS: you fdon't just STOp making games without warning that there will not be sold Pamela: well, haven't seen it yet james: anyone here played joust? were the programmers just too lazy to put in sound? BobS: you got a bunch og what????? BobS: carts of powerLords rich-c: actually the attachment was goner.scr.vbs Dale: Then the body says: "How are you ?" BobS: is it me or do ONLY virus files have a double extension????? Guy B.: My co-worker and I were talking about that. Since the message has the word Harry. Most people would think the screensaver might be Harry Potter? Dale: "When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you" Dale: "I am in a harry, I promise you will love it!" Dale: -- with the spelling mistake and everything. james: typically most viruses can't self execute so one needs to fool the user into executing it, hence the double extension on alot of them. Pamela: I have yet to see it or any of the others either BobS: had bad trans here, and Ron...and Jerry V and I think in FL Ronald: tell ya, I'm gettin plumb paraniod about this stuff Dale: Of course I don't use Outlook, since that is too dangerous with out a software vase anti-virus program. james: i hate spelling mistakes but mabye because i'm an english teacher. rich-c: yes, although it can have the single extension .exe Ronald: most of my mail I get on the iMac first Pamela: I wouldn't open an executable anyway for just that reason - too many viruses hiding in them Dale: Our email server scans attachments for the VBScript viruses like ... Ronald: which doesn't seem to be affected by Winstuff Ronald: Uncle Norton scans mail coming to and going from the P200 Dale: Kournikova virus... Ronald: It's only when I actually open one - like one I thought was from Bob james: here bob: http://www.vgmuseum.com/ads/classic/odyssey0002.jpg rich-c: no, most viruses are targetted to Outlook and only operate in Windoze Dale: The tennis star has her own Internet worm. Guy B.: I have Virucide 2001 and it warns me, if something isn't right and asks me what action to take.
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left chat session rich-c: I use McAfee and it hasn't let me down yet rich-c: not sure Bob but I may have got that loaded message from you rich-c: but I opened it in Eudora and nothing happened james: more at you bob: james: http://www.classicgaming.com/o2home/newprobe.htm Guy B.: On the P133, I have Inoculate Personal Edition. Which it's free. james: the guy mentioned in the article - sean kelly is the one i dealt with. BobS: not from me...from my old unused no pay for corecomm account james: did someone say free virus scanner? Guy B.: I still have to download updates with that program. Ronald: Yeah, poor Bob. We don't want you think you're a bad person, 'cause you're not ya know Dale: The Kornikova virus was called had an attachment called kornikova.jpg.pif rich-c: yes, there are free virus scanners, james, some pretty good Dale: Which made it executable like a .exe or .com file is. rich-c: if you can stand the way it slows down your computer, there's one at finjan.com Guy B.: F-Prot, I believe is one that is free. rich-c: it is claimed to be even more effective than McAfee or Norton Dale: If you go to http://www.tucows.com these have a selection fo free virus scanners. Ronald: the sicko's who write these things..... what is their game? Ronald: power? Guy B.: To leave their signature on your PC. rich-c: james, Langalist mentioned a website last issue with all sorts of great freeware, including an antivirus Jillian: To prove that they are good enough programmers to do it? rich-c: I'll try to send you the URL later james: i have a theory about who writes viruses. Ronald: Yes> Jillian: Why do any vandals vandalize? Dale: There's a saying that virus writers don't exist for Linux because they can't beat the system, they become the maintainers of the system. Jillian: Cause they hate Bill Gates? rich-c: I think it's because Linux takes learning and they're too lazy Guy B.: I wonder that myself, Jill! Ronald: there was an article on the Red Hat site a while back - there is, apparently, such a thing as a Linux virus Pamela: we obviously are not of criminal mindset Ronald: they were telling everyone how to avoid it...... by upgrading to the next distro Judy: if they would just use the smarts for something good!!! Ronald: exactly Judy. Obviously these people know how to program Dale: The DOS (Denial Of Service) attacks are an example of a Linux virus. james: personally i think that there is a sub-basement level both at the mcafee and norton offices. just a conspiracy theory. Dale: It was used about 2 years ago to shut down ebay for a day or two. Ronald: we just lost our community net a couple of weeks ago. Denial of service. Brought the server to its knees rich-c: right, james - it's part of the marketing department Ronald: lesson's learned -- Back The drnd thing up Jillian: I sometimes wonder if virus writers are really just tech support people who are totally frustrated with users who don't want to learn how to use their computers. Pamela: I heard that somewhere - like back in July? Ronald: we thought the isp had a backup...they thought we did Ronald: and guess what Ronald: neither did rich-c: I think that I have heard that song before.... Ronald: Oh probably Guy B.: Well folks, got to read the e-mail. I'll try for Saturday if I'm not tied up with getting Christmas cards ready. Bye All! james: bob, did you see those url's i posted? i'll try to get you the guy's e-mail addy the next time i'm on my machine in my study room. Ronald: Dale.... Jillian: Night Guy. Pamela: g'nite Guy Ronald: is there any difference between Brute Force attack, and Denial of Service? rich-c: see you then Guy Ronald: Nite Guy Dale: Ron BobS: bye guy
Guy B. left chat session Dale: Bye Guy Judy: night Guy Jillian: I think I'm about to hit the sack as well. I've got an early ultrasound tomorrow. BobS: got them james./.....interesting yes????? rich-c: right Jill, take care - both of you Ronald: be good Jillian Dale: Yes Ron. BobS: and the PowerLords game works???????? james: i thought you might find them so. Ronald: and... james: works great. Pamela: Jillian, keep us posted and take good care of yourself BobS: be good jill .....and baby Wick !!!!!!! Jillian: Pumpkin says 'thump thump" to you all. Ronald: niters Pumpkin Judy: bye, Jill Pamela: Well I suppose that's better than whozit Dale: A brute force attack will make many connections... Jillian: poof
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james left chat session Pamela: Bob, when do you sail? BobS: well, james has that one for sure BobS: Monday George: yes i'm trying to take it all in BobS: fly south at 7AM get on ship at 3 PM Pamela: We are all envious BobS: we be back at 10:30 sat night Judy: it is a great way to go rich-c: aftyer today, won't you find it cold down there in FL? BobS: will fill ya in at AC 14 Pamela: ridikkulus BobS: going WAAAY sounth of FL, to Puerto Rico and then south rich-c: you sail from Puerto Rico? bair: sounds like fun Pamela: I just hope we don't land in winter by getting a foot of snow all at the same time BobS: weather reports say brown xmas season rich-c: well, historically, dump day is Dec. 12 Pamela: thank you Mr. Ray of Sunshine - that's Christmas party day Ronald: got a question for y'all to ponder rich-c: good - makes another good reason to leave the car at home Ronald: to change the subject BobS: yes Ronald: buddy of mine just phoned Pamela: Actually, that's one of the few days I do drive in Ronald: he's buying a new system from a local vendor Ronald: who has recommended that he choose Windows Me rather than XP rich-c: we don't know much about Macs Ronald: anybody got any comment on that Ronald: These people are coming from a P75 with Win 95 installed Dale: I'm off. rich-c: yes, forget ME, get Win98SE - there is still some around
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changed username to Dale Ronald: why Rich Dale: I'm back. Pamela: that was quick George: i won't use windows xp BobS: Dougs opinion of ME is YUCK...XP he is using to test for work......not complaining too much Dale: Well, XP is pretty nice. BobS: except that it takes while to set up all the stuff win95/98 did all by tiself Ronald: ok.....is it that XP is such a radical departure? rich-c: Windows Xp requires registration - repeated every tine you change your configuration Dale: I'm on tonight from 2000, and XP is very similar to 2000. Ronald: or is this vendor simply trying to peddle a computer that already has ME installed? George: i don't like ME rich-c: really want to have to ask Bill Gates' permission every time you add a new drive or such? Ronald: I'm hearing about Me what I expected to hear Dale: XP rearranges everything to be easier to find. BobS: Win95 works, don't fix it rich-c: or have to phone REdmond for a password to reinstall after a crash ? Dale: Of course if you're used to where everything goes, it has all disappeared. Pamela: why is it necessary to have ME or XP anyway? how different is it from98 SE? Ronald: valid Rich George: not on agp systems Ronald: have heard that BobS: EXACTLY what doug was complaining about Dale: Rich, it only restricts changes of more than 4 devices in every 6 months. Dale: Not as evil as it sounds. Ronald: would like specifics if at all possible BobS: WHY restrict anything at all???????? rich-c: Dale, I don't trust Bill Gates peering over my shoulder anytime for any reason Dale: It also doesn't include USB devices either. Ronald: look and feel? peripheral support? Ronald: dependability? rich-c: as for ME, I have yet to find any writer who has a good word for it rich-c: but I sure have see a lot of bad ones bair: i like the usb ports Dale: With laptops, because almost everything is removable, I think that it has been determined that there aren't 4 things that you can change that it tracks. rich-c: 98SE supports USB George: i still need to refer to dos Dale: The start menu is all rearranged. Ronald: after a fashion Rich. my experience with USB on my Win 98 se has not been good rich-c: yes, how do you run ADAMEM under XP? Ronald: my burner works when the wind is blowing from the north at 8.5 kh/h Dale: I've mostly used XP in French for testing. So that leave me kinda hazy about what things are supposed to be like. Ronald: Got this buddy of mine to fone my son in Vancouver. He's got XP rich-c: I just bought the 98SE upgrade package Judy: night all, have to pick up some things before retiring. Otherwise Ryan will find them. rich-c: I plan to use it on the new computer I plan to buy Dale: Rich, I haven't really tried it, but I'd expect it would work. George: win 98se has issues with via usb chipsets rich-c: goodnight Judy, nice having you by Pamela: goodnite Judy Ronald: anyway... guys...didn't mean to divert the topic, and I think I have your impressions.... tuvm Ronald: nite Judy bair: by judy
Judy left chat session Pamela: I think it's time I packed it in too - the rooms starting to spin rich-c: what sort of issues, George? I've not seen any literature on it Dale: XP has some cool features though. And is pretty stable, which is nice. Ronald: think So George. I tried another box here I was fixing for a friend... my burner worked great under 98se on that rich-c: get your beauty sleep, daughter, and take it easy bair: by pamela Pamela: Bob and Judy excepted, see you all next week Dale: It is really good at autodetecting things like new devices (digital cameras, etc) Pamela: Bob, have a great time Pamela: I am outta here Ronald: that's the kind of stuff that's going to be attached on this one Dale. The owner is a Photographer Pamela: poof BobS: thank you Pamela....will catcha a wave for ya!!!!!! George: it wasn't designed to run via usb chipsets on processor above 350 mhz
Pamela left chat session Ronald: how about 200 mh Ronald: mh Ronald: mhz Ronald: can't type either BobS: farn dingers!!!!! George: they say it has has something to do about timing loop Dale: Well, I hate to duck out early, but ... rich-c: you mean Win9x wasn't? Dale: I think I have to go. BobS: gotta go now guys.........can say GUYSnow, the girls are history....... Ronald: thanks for the info Dale... In know you were on your way out earlier rich-c: Sounds fascinating, GEorge. Do you know where I could look it up? George: win 98 se Ronald: nite Bob... go straight home BobS: see ya in 2 weeks THANKS DALE for getting this thing back up so quickly!!!!! rich-c: Goodnight Bob, you and Judy enjoy the cruise Ronald: hand of applause for Dale George: i called microsoft Ronald: (e-mailed) Dale: Richard, XP includes 6000 new device drivers. With 98 you invariably have to install something from a CD first. rich-c: clap clap clap BobS: clap. clap, clap.....is taht at disease??????? Ronald: no BobS: bye!!! splash!!!!!!!
BobS left chat session Dale: Thanks. Sorry it had to be down for the Saturday chat, but my DSL connection wasn't working on time. :-( Ronald: so this Sat we ought to be there huh? Ronald: must write big note rich-c: can't hurt, Ron Dale: Plus XP has cool importer software and "email these images" which shrink it down for the email if you ask. Things like that. Ronald: noted Dale Ronald: I know Jeff is happy with it Dale: Oh yes, and my company's XP print wizard to print stuff at Future Shop is built into the Canadian XP. Ronald: sounds like a conflict of interest to me Ronald: :) bair: nite all rich-c: I have heard that for industrial users XP has its advantages rich-c: but that applies only to clean installations Ronald: you goin' away bair?
bair left chat session rich-c: the upgrade reportedly has issues rich-c: nite Bob B Ronald: what I'm hearing is definately NOT ME Ronald: either jump ahead, of stay put Ronald: or rather, back one to 98 se Dale: Upgrades are notoriously challenging. I've mostly done clean installs, so I can't advise either way. With 9x I've always recommended a clean reinstall about once a year. Dale: TDOS is much more stable. Ronald: experience bears that out Dale rich-c: that's what the gurus I've been reading and talked to say, Ron Ronald: OH Really! rotfl George: it probably is Dale: This is an Adam chat after all <grin> Ronald: that's right. We must stay on topic. I started out talking about Kreamy Krunchins or something Dale: ME is a mistake unless it is preloaded really. rich-c: right Dale and you didnt answer about Adamem under XP Ronald: well Dale, this is what has me wondering. Are they trying to push a box that's already there and on inventory without fully assessing the user's needs Dale: Rich, I thought it would be the same as under 2000, but it may be a little different. Dale: I haven't actually tried it yet. I'll try to remember to try it before the next chat though. rich-c: since there's no underlying DOS I am curious Dale: There is still a command prompt in XP, but the old DOS command.com is gone, only cmd.exe available now. rich-c: not that Marcel and his gang aren't capable of finding an answer Ronald: don't imagine it would be an issue for most users Dale. For me it is, and that's what turned me away from Me rich-c: yes, and Frances is eyeing an Amiga emulator Ronald: in my more perverse moments I still prefer a command line rich-c: don't know if there's enough disc space on the laptop though Dale: It with 2000, there is cmd.exe (the usual shell) and command.com for backwards compatibility. I expect that it will run the same as it did in 2000, which I had at the last AdamCon. George: what about using a boot disk? Ronald: sure. That's always an option Ronald: or is it? Ronald: Will Mr. Gates allow that? Dale: cmd.exe is really a 32-bit version of command.com introduced with NT. George: i don't know that Dale: A boot disk is always an option. But not necessary I expect. I'll try AdamEm under XP and report back. George: the windows techs weren't clear rich-c: yes, and 2000 is really effectively NT5, isnt it? Dale: Internally it identifies itself that way sometimes. Ronald: good Dale. You may influence a purchasing decision here in the next 12 months Ronald: if anything is going to be permitted here in the snakepit, it has to run the ADAM emulator Dale: What XP really needs is RAM. 256 is a good start. But RAM lately has been incrediblly cheap. Less than $45 for 256 megs. Dale: Linux runs the emulator quite nicely. Ronald: Ok now there is an issue that may be germain to my friends here. Think they'll only have 128 if they buy this box the way it is rich-c: don't know if it's still an issue, but Myles Whyte was saying some BIOSs get flaky with over 256 RAM Ronald: neat..... a little help from my friends Dale: It does run in 128 but 196 is a happier configuration. George: and agp cards too Ronald: ok Dale: Well then stick to 256 I guess. rich-c: surely anything that needs over 256 meg or RAM is too bloated to be tolerated George: nvidia has a problem with ram greater than 512 mb Ronald: got it for my iMac Rich, but only to allow me to run Red Hat 7.2, ADAMEM, Win98 simultaneously Ronald: as well as OS X Ronald: then I really get confused rich-c: anyway Ron sounds like this unit would use 168-pin SDRAM and that's dirt cheap Dale: I guess Ron LOL. Ronald: what surprises me is that it can actually be done Ronald: Connectix Virtual PC Ronald: not an ADAM product
(rich-c reboots Ronald's computer remotely.) Dale: A dos emulator for an Adam emulator. Ronald: right Rich.... just saw your comment re the memory, but because one of you raised the issue of Memory with respect to choice of OS..... it'll be factored into Ronald: the advice given Ronald: yup Ronald: it does a Passable version of the powerpaint theme Ronald: on the iMac. Ronald: Come to ADAMCON 15 and see for yourselves rich-c: you might want to check some of the consumer computer sites, Ron Dale: Anyway, I'm sure I phoned a cab to take me away from this chat... rich-c: try computerwriter.com, and canadacomputes.com Dale: I'll catch you all later. Ronald: good point Rich Ronald: thanks Dale... again, I value your comments Ronald: and those of others here rich-c: see you then, Dale. Take care of Jill Dale: I will. Dale: poof
Dale left chat session Ronald: Soooooo... having thus steered a perfectly good ADAM chat into the can Ronald: suppose I should fone my friend rich-c: hey, pooling our ignorance is what it's all about rich-c: somehow, truth emerges Ronald: that's right Rich Ronald: that part has always amazed me Ronald: is Robert Miller still here? Ronald: and George? rich-c: he's on the list rich-c: yes, GEorge has been chipping in George: i'm here i think Ronald: yep....got his input rich-c: George, can you hit the Saturday chat at 3? Ronald: I dunno.... I still have nights honestly, where if I want to get any real work done, the ADAM works best George: i hope so rich-c: horses for courses, Ron - there are thingsw Adam still does best Ronald: I'm gonna do a post-it-note here somewhere Rich. most weeks, I just plain forget Ronald: that's right Ronald: and that keyboard still feels like a pair of comfy slippers rich-c: we'll be waiting to hear what your buddy decides Ronald: yeah.... I'm off to fone him..... see ya's later gents rich-c: nite now, Ron Ronald: nite.... nite George Ronald: nite Robert George: nite ron Ronald: poof rich-c: Guess I had better get going too - I have to look up that URL I promised james
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