yipyano: Who am I am where am I at?
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changed username to rich-c rich-c: hi george George: hi rich rich-c: yes, hoped that would let you know I'm here rich-c: hear it's been pretty wet down your way George: tes. i started to resd my email rich-c: yes, if you're on early you never know when someone is going to show up George: the rain hasn't started yet rich-c: really? it started here a couple of hours ago and is to run through tomorrow rich-c: you are east of us of course but you're also south and that's where it's coming from George: they expect it thurs-fri here rich-c: guess then that it is making its northing faster than its easting rich-c: on the satellite photo that is one humungous wad of cloud
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changed username to Guy B. George: yes. most of the time the storms go north
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: hello Guy Guy B.: Greetings!!! rich-c: does the big rain area extend as far west as Chicago? George: hello
changed username to Severus Snape Guy B.: Right now, we only have drizzle and fog. It's making driving difficult. rich-c: see we have a new entrat here - Dr. D perhaps? Severus Snape: :-) George: we still have above normal temps rich-c: yes, we had the warmest November on record and it continues Severus Snape: Mme. Pamela would recognize the reference, Richard. Severus Snape: I was hoping the Mighty Mitchell would be here, as I just E-mailed him how to save the MIDI file. rich-c: yes, but she's at the company Christmas party tonight so likely won't be home in time to join us Severus Snape: Boo-hoo, then I better change my monicker back to a non-Harry-Potter form... rich-c: and Ron likjely hasn't finished dinner yet - it's only 6.15 on the Left Coast
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George left chat session rich-c: we'll be without teh Slopsemas tonight too - they're off on their cruise Guy B.: I have the notebook up here, so I'll be going back and forth while I'm writing my annual Christmas letter. Dr. D.: Just us hard-core homebound types, then. Dr. D.: Anybody else listen to my MIDI file (on any platform)?
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changed username to George rich-c: oh, you mean we can play it on the DOSbox too? George: sorry i clicked the wrong button Dr. D.: You can play it on anything which will play a MIDI file. rich-c: don't sweat it, George, we're all expert at hitting the wrong key Dr. D.: SoundBlaster and DOS, yep, there's a MIDI player for it. Dr. D.: Win 3.x, 95, etc. rich-c: OK, I will give it a try later then Dr. D.: Easiest, of course, with later OSes; if the plugins are set up right for QuickTime or Media Player, using your browser to grab it will just launch the player. rich-c: I have bothQT and MP but whether they're set up right I can't tell rich-c: I might even find I end up launching it in Slowview, it's a very capable program Dr. D.: Well, my 2 ADAMs performed superbly at the Egg Hunt this Sunday. Dr. D.: One idiot spectator, however, kicked off a power supply with his foot during a round, crashing the timer ADAM. rich-c: what function were they assigned in the production? Dr. D.: Fortunately, someone looked at his watch real quick and kept time 'til I could reboot. Dr. D.: One ADAM was timer, the other was scoreboard. Dr. D.: 30-foot ADAMnet cables from ADAMs/monitors to the scorer's table at mid-court. rich-c: neat - how did the spectators react to that? Dr. D.: Works very well. A 13-year-old was the computer operator, son of my colleague, Dr. Beer. Dr. D.: Incredulous. A few students were just old enough to have played with ColecoVisions when they were, oh, maybe 4 years old... rich-c: me, I'm picking up my new computer tomorrow George: is this a robot wars thing? rich-c: same basic idea but non-violent, George Dr. D.: competition, but no wars....*and* the robots are autonomous, not joystick-controlled. Dr. D.: http://www.eecs.cwru.edu/courses/lego375/ rich-c: we had a ball building and playing with them at the last Adamcon Dr. D.: will tell you everything you want to know :-) Dr. D.: Yep, just the same sort of stuff, only for a whole semester (not 6 hours). rich-c: well, we barely got ours working, even in teams, in the time wehad rich-c: but then the building was a big part of the fun Dr. D.: But "barely" is still working. rich-c: you got it Dr. D.: You are additional data points to bolster my claim that I have a good educational design in my course. rich-c: right - you could hardly have a more varied sample base Dr. D.: Now if only I could get the university to guarantee funding for it.... Dr. D.: Well, some good news today, anyway: the Journal of Experimental Biology accepted a paper of mine for publication. Dr. D.: J. Exp. Biol. is in England. rich-c: that is good - as I recall, that is one big name journal Dr. D.: They are still reviewing a second paper; we're waiting for comments. Dr. D.: A third paper won't be submitted until January, though. rich-c: what's the accepted paper on? Dr. D.: I am first author on paper #2, and #2 author on the others. Dr. D.: The three of them represent the last 4 years of my professional work. rich-c: right - sea slugs - which part of the anatomy, again? rich-c: some part of the digestive tract, isnt it? Dr. D.: The feeding apparatus, inside the head. rich-c: ah, OK, close but a little down the line Dr. D.: Got some real monster slugs a few weeks ago, 950+ grams each...that's over 2 pounds for your non-metric types. Dr. D.: Yes, a 2-pound slug. rich-c: wow, for that in a terrestial slug you'd have to go to Washington State George: ugh Dr. D.: Wonder if they have 'em in Comox, too... rich-c: nope, I don't even think they spread down to Oregon, either rich-c: at least we've only seen and heard of them in Washington rich-c: although a particularly repellant variant species is found in DC ;-) Dr. D.: G.H.W.B.Jr. rich-c: tactfully, no comment Dr. D.: All three of Dorothy's companions to Oz (with all their weaknesses) in the same guy... George: i think i have reformat my harddrive rich-c: well, I do confess to being no great fan of Shrubbery rich-c: why would you have to reformat your drive, George? Dr. D.: I'd rather cut down the largest tree in the forest with a herring... George: dsl and aol going goofy rich-c: well, that's surely a symptom of something, but not necessarily a drive failure George: it keeps on detecting my dsl modem rich-c: reformatting is a really drastic step rich-c: well, why shouldn't it detect your modem?
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changed username to abrasiv1 George: only once not every five min rich-c: lessee - now we have New Hampshire heard from abrasiv1: yup....cool up here rich-c: yes, you folks have actually had snow, haven't you? abrasiv1: yes still have some on the ground rich-c: we have eyt to see any in Toronto - you should hear the ski operators up north abrasiv1: had about 5 inches here....but the ski areas are still hurting rich-c: we've even only had one or two nights cold enough for snowmaking machinery abrasiv1: some of our ski areas actually opened up...then the warm weather came and washed it all away Guy B.: We are still waiting for snow here in Chicago. No snow for November. rich-c: our local sportscaster is using his backyard hockey rink as a wading pool rich-c: lots of rain though, Guy rich-c: anyway can we get back to looking at George's problem? rich-c: George, what do you mean by the program detecting the modem every five minutes? rich-c: do you mean it shuts down then restarts or something? Dr. D.: Gotta go for tonight gang; I'll try to stop by Saturday. George: the westell icon pops up and says itsv decting modem rich-c: OK Rich hope you can make it Dr. D.: <poof>
Dr. D. left chat session rich-c: sounds like a fault in that program then Guy B.: That was quick. rich-c: have you done a scandisc and defrag recently, George? George: every day rich-c: well, that's a bit extreme, but it sure eliminates one likelihood! abrasiv1: how about reinstalling the program? rich-c: why do you even have an icon for westell? rich-c: he's on AOL on a DSL connection, John George: i have support on the phone rich-c: right, you can phone out even when online with ADSL abrasiv1: hmmm.....don't know a whole lot about dsl rich-c: while George is busy, Guy, I'm picking up my new computer tomorrow abrasiv1: but know quite a bit about aol...i have had to reinstall their software every now and then to get things working right rich-c: I know the price, John, which totally eliminates any other interest abrasiv1: indeed abrasiv1: new computer?whatcha gettin? rich-c: george was saying AOL wants 90% of his computer's resources to work Guy B.: Great, will it be an Athlon? rich-c: Athlon 1600XP - MSI topline motherboard - 256MB - 40 gig - CD-RW Guy B.: Whoa, what speed is the processor? rich-c: figure I might get all the necessary files transferred over and configured by the next equinox abrasiv1: video card? rich-c: processor is 1.4 gig - the 1600 bit is because it's the new enhanced series, suggests a former 1.6 equivalent Guy B.: Now, will you be keeping the old system after you do the transfers or are you going to sell it? rich-c: just a 32 meg nVidia, John Guy B.: Got to ask, what version of Windows are you getting? abrasiv1: still ....not shabby by any means rich-c: likely keep it - especially if Frances can ever figure out a place to put it Guy B.: Very good. rich-c: I'll be putting Windows 98SE on it - bought it a few weeks back abrasiv1: have you had good success with msi mobo's? Guy B.: Good, that's what I have on my Athlon. rich-c: well, I've only had the current one, but I have no complaints with it abrasiv1: sounds quite nice rich-c: the new one is 266FSB, uses DDR SDRAM, has the Promise chip rich-c: the case has 9 bays, I'll have connectors for 10 devices - not counting the USB ports abrasiv1: raid? George: i was told to get a new computer rich-c: yes, RAID mode 0 or 1 abrasiv1: nice rich-c: fiugred if I ever figured out what computers are supposed to do, I'd be ready to do it abrasiv1: i have to get a new one soon rich-c: also has 5 - PCI slots, an AGP4x, and CNR abrasiv1: i had been hoping that the sis 735 chipset would go places but it didn't George: i never met a MS operating system that didn't crash Guy B.: Whoa, that's about the same as mine. Didn't do bad Rich.
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changed username to Ron Ron: late rich-c: George, the only difference among OSs is some are harder to crash than others Guy B.: Hi Ron, on the PC tonight? Ron: PC Pentium II at 300 mhz rich-c: the less they can do and the harder it is to make them do it, the more crash resistant they are Ron: One small step for progress rich-c: this is new Ron (BTW, hello)
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changed username to BAIR Ron: even have a DVD player on this one rich-c: well, your last shipment of that is starting to arrive here now, Ron Ron: aha Guy B.: Oh look, it's the Bair. How are you Bob? Ron: Evening Mr. Bair BAIR: just find rich-c: welcome Mr. Robert Bair!!! BAIR: hi Guy B.: How's Virginia? rich-c: George, if I wanted to, I could resurrect my old 386 and get online with it rich-c: a techie who tells you to buy a new computer doesnt know his job BAIR: she is in bed but feeling find also Ron: a techie like that may as well wave a red flag in front of my face rich-c: my 386 maybe wouldn't support DSL but it would sure work on dialup George: i just feel DEVASTATED Ron: I'm sure rich-c: why? because he's a jerk? ignore the.... abrasiv1: welll all ...gotta go abrasiv1: have a good week Ron: we will do that sir if you do
abrasiv1 left chat session rich-c: very good John come back soon George: aol is screwing the hell out of their broadband rich-c: wonder if they got hit by the @Home business? George: i don't know who they subcontract with rich-c: maybe you should see if you can get a better deal out of MSN or Earthlink or Prodigy or such Ron: What are you running there George? George: a mess Ron: :) that bad eh?
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changed username to Pamela Pamela: And we're live George: with wire spaghetti rich-c: hi daughter how was teh party? Pamela: twas good thank you Ron: Pamela - hello Pamela: Hello all rich-c: I made your apologies to Dr. D earlier George: hello Pamela: I didn't mean to be conversation stopper Pamela: What was this about spaghetti? I have some too rich-c: George, you're perfectly normal - I can barely move for wires BAIR: my best meal rich-c: and take a look at Ron's picture of his Snake Pit - you don't know from spaghetti rich-c: Ron, you're still on with the 486 occasionally, aren't you? Ron: you mean there is more than one snake pit? Guy B.: Hi Pam, I'm going between the desktop and my notebook tonight. Writing a Christmas letter. Pamela: One of these days I'm going to drill a hole in the back of the desk and move my harddrive and spaghetti underneath George: i was ask what i'm running i said a mess with wire spaghetti rich-c: Shame on you, Guy - I mailed mine on Monday Pamela: Just don't get mixed up Guy Ron: I have mine written, but can't find a berflicketysplitz printer around here that Murphy hasn't had his way with Guy B.: Well, I had a hard time just with the labels. The cards are next. Pamela: How do you pronounce that Ron? rich-c: sure, but you have a perfectly capable computer, George Ron: Blamed it on Mother. I did her Christmas letter first, and it turned out fine rich-c: use the Adam, Ron Ron: but she killed my berflicketysplitz printer Pamela: BTW Dad, Kimberly got your card on Tuesday Ron: ber - flickety -splitz Pamela: gotcha rich-c: good, hope she liked it Pamela: I was shocked at how fast it arrived Ron: she had a devilish grin from ear to ear Pamela: who, your mother? Ron: yes George: aol tech says my amd k62 500 mhz with 224mb ram is outdated BAIR: better than throwing the pan Pamela: need to get another ISP George Ron: The guy has lost his mind. rich-c: he's a liar, in this context Ron: then we won't go into what I'm running Guy B.: The letter is done. I have to use Direct Cable Connection so I can print them. Pamela: Since you have the same speed and more ram than I , you're doing fine rich-c: Pam, what does your IBM have? It's a 500 K6-2, isn't it? Guy B.: Tha will be later. Pamela: 600 Dad George: yes rich-c: 500, 600, no big deal Ron: My son Jeff also thinks he's in the dark ages with a 500 Mhz processor rich-c: Ron, will your 486 DX100 drive your cable modem? Pamela: I must admit to thinking about upgrading George: yesterday i was using a pentiun 90 Guy B.: That's the speed of my notebook. George: almost yesterday rich-c: George, I'm chatting here on a 166 and it's more than up to the job - with 32 MB of RAM Pamela: mine only has 64 meg Guy B.: I have 128mb. Ron: brb Pamela: Ron has to quit answering the phone rich-c: Guy, Geroge may have mismatched RAM, could that be a problem? Guy B.: George, how much memory do you have on your PC? rich-c: he has 128 + 64 + 32 George: the place i bought the computer at said the ram is functioning perfectly rich-c: each individual piece almost certainly is, George, but are they pulling together? Pamela: Since it's a multiple of eight, it should be okay, shouldn't it? BAIR: 3:30 is not far from nowseeyou next week Guy B.: Yeah, that's a mismatch. Each pair should be the same size. Pamela: g'nite, Bob rich-c: see you, Bob - take care George: my only problem is aol and dsl Pamela: Nice to see you
BAIR left chat session Guy B.: Bye Bob. Ron: phone calls - Ron: invitation to Dinosaur Ribs tomorrow night Ron: accepted Pamela: good call Pamela: but I wanna see the bone rack Ron: there's a old English pub out by the base that has a deal Thurs nights rich-c: without denying the bad reports I've had about AOL, this one may not be all their fault Guy B.: George, are you using the latest version of AOL's software? Ron: you go prepared to get messy.... real messy Pamela: take your bib, Ron Ron: exactly rich-c: and now stop it - you're making me hungry and I just ate! Ron: sorry Pamela: no you're not Ron: these are good Ron: but that's off topic Pamela: Well I've had enough red meat to last me for a while now Pamela: Lunch at the Keg yesterday was prime rib, tonite was roast beast rich-c: Just as a suggestion, George, you could try pulling the 32 and 64MB memory chips and see what happens George: yes they said they have compatibilty issues with westell (which the modem they sent me and are sending me another) rich-c: you might find matters actually improve Guy B.: I would use the 128 and the 64 meg. That would be enough. rich-c: On a K6-2, Guy, 128 alone should be more than adequate for anything rich-c: he is not a profession graphics designer, after all Guy B.: Your right, it should be adequate. Otherwise, the only other thing is get another 128mb module and take the other out. George: i can't remember which way they are placed in and which ones to pull Ron: need the book Ron: most often the book is not there rich-c: and they all look the same. Ouch! George: yes they do rich-c: you can always turn off the machine, pull any one, and see what the new memory is - that will tell you what you took out rich-c: after all, it will still boot up happily on 32 MB if it comes to htat Ron: trial and error Guy B.: Well, I have to check the e-mail and look at one more thing for my dog for Christmas. I'll see how Saturday looks, see you all next week otherwise. George: that crashed windows on my othwer machine Pamela: Have a good one, Guy rich-c: OK, hope you can make it Sat., Guy, but it is the season Ron: nite Guy
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: even 98SE will run in 32 MB Ron: Indeed it will Pamela: I'm thinking I should go get something done too before I hit the bed George: it's all i ever use now Ron: must do Christmas cards..... bah humbug rich-c: OK Pam, go sleep off the big dinner Pamela: Gotta put my laundry away George: on my newer computers that is Pamela: Then I can sleep Ron: Well George, don't take any guff from these techies rich-c: well, it installed fine on my 166 laptop, though that does have 64 MB Pamela: I'm outta here folks. Until next week. rich-c: nite now Ron: g'nite eh? Pamela: g'nite - poof
Pamela left chat session rich-c: and especially don't take any BS from the AOL jerks - they are clearly clueless Ron: right George: i agree rich-c: in fact, George, go down to your local library and look at Consumer Reports rich-c: a few months back they had ratings of all the national ISPs rich-c: they'll tell you what's wrong with AOL - which rated dead last Ron: my experience with them was not good rich-c: meantime you have a perfectly good computer that should serve your needs until Windows 98SE is no longer a viable OS George: i think so rich-c: and though Microsoft would have you believe otherwise, that's a good long time away rich-c: in fact, last night we wre with a gropup that surfs using Amigas - a 1990 computer George: where are they? rich-c: they're called Toronto Pet Users Group, though they cover everything Commodore Ron: George, I missed the first part of this discussion - what problem were you having with this bunch? Ron: AOL I mean rich-c: once they were the biggest Commodore group in the world George: my friend nancy has an amiga 500 computer rich-c: yes, we have one of those, also a 2000 and a 3000 George: she also has a bodega bay rich-c: that's something I have never heard of Ron: what's that? George: we are trying to get it to work rich-c: I just have Adams and Amigas and TI99/4s and DOSboxes George: it is sme kind of expansion unit rich-c: probably find some information on it by searching on the Aminet George: it holds harddrives and such rich-c: look at amigaresource.org George: ok Ron: surely there must be some data out there in cyberspace Ron: Anyway guys...... on to my Ho Ho Ho thing...... hopefullly see ya's Sat rich-c: also amiga.org and amigaforums.org rich-c: do try to make it, Ron Ron: will do Ron: nite rich-c: look forward to it then rich-c: nite George: nite Ron
Ron left chat session rich-c: if you need Amiga parts or software, I can likely give you some leads too rich-c: but hitting those URLs I gave you and following links should be helpful George: could you email me some links rich-c: if not, holler at me and we'll pursue the matter further rich-c: try the three I gave you already - they should be enough George: ok thanks rich-c: if by any chance they aren't and the links don't help, email me your questions and I'll try and aim you in the right direction rich-c: don't be shy, George - we will be quite happy to pursue this till we get satisfactory answers for you George: thank you rich-c: we've hung together in the Adam world for over 15 years by helping each other - we aren't about to stop now George: good rich-c: by the way, in our household it's Frances who is the Amiga guru rich-c: she is also very happy to answer questions George: ok rich-c: do you feel like worrying around your connection problems a bit more? George: not now i need a break rich-c: yes, most of us poop out around 11 (including yours truly) and it's about that now rich-c: want to build up a list of questions to discuss Saturday?