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changed username to George rich-c: greetings, George rich-c: thought it was likely to be you George: hi rich rich-c: how's life today? George: ok rich-c: got any more computers fixed yet? George: not yet rich-c: but working on it, I trust rich-c: are all of them worth fixing or would you be better cannibalizing them to upgrade your best ones? George: getting parts together rich-c: I need to do a bit of work on my computers today or tomorrow George: my father is just leaving rich-c: ah, you've had a visitor rich-c: does he come often? George: yes George: a few times a month rich-c: we don't visit Pam as often as we should rich-c: but with the meetings on chat and phone calls, stay pretty well in touch George: that's good rich-c: yes, she;'s our only child rich-c: but with her work and Russell's oddball shifts, getting together can be a problem George: it can get complicated rich-c: sometimes when Russell is on the 4-midnite shift she comes by here for dinner George: do you have any ADAM software available on 160k floppy? rich-c: anyway, when you finish the repairs, what computers do you plan to have working? rich-c: with very few exceptions, every Adam program is available on floppy, some exclusively so rich-c: only program not available on 160 floppy is the Richard Scarry Workbook rich-c: it's 255K so just won't fit rich-c: but I have that on a 320K disc George: my amd k6-2 500 mhz pntium 100mhz and 180 mmx overdrive
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changed username to BobS rich-c: allo Robert BobS: Hi boys rich-c: good to see you, kid BobS: how's Geo tofday???? BobS: got computers running good now? BobS: and Richard???? George: all are almost maxed out rich-c: yo? rich-c: found a gender-bender for my parallel cable today rich-c: now I should be able to use DCC to transport files from my old to new computer George: i maxxed my compters out as far as upgrading goes BobS: ok, now then rich-c: it all depends on the motherboard BobS: you are going to transfer ALL yor stuff from one to the other rich-c: that's why I spent absurd amounts on the motherboard for my new unit rich-c: no, just key files, the old one will remain usable BobS: well, just "copy" the whole business and leave it ALL ont he old one rich-c: but I'd like to get my mail archives over if I can rich-c: and there are a couple of freeware programs I have archived that I want rich-c: no point in copying everything rich-c: if we had space I put some special stuff on it for Frances George: my 180 overdrive is over clocked from 90 the bios reads it as a133 rich-c: I'm surprised at that level of overclocking it hasn't set the place on fire, George George: it benches as a180 mhz rich-c: I'd expect it to bench as "imminent blue smoke!" George: i've had it that way three years now rich-c: or wait - that's a professional "Evewrgreen" upgrade you're talking about, right? George: it seems to be the most relieable rich-c: well, if it works, you can't knock it rich-c: still, it's a bit outdated, while your 500 has a few years left yet George: that mother is maxxed out too rich-c: hey Bob, we've actually got sunshine - how you doing? BobS: HA rich-c: why, is the 500 an overclock? George: oops i mean motherboard BobS: we are supposed to have 2-3 inches of snow today, then maybe a peeka ta sun tomoorw BobS: and then snow mon and tues BobS: OUTDATED!!!!!!! my 486/33 is still working good rich-c: we're apparently slated to stay above freezing next several days, incidents of flurries from time to time rich-c: but mostly lots of clouds but staying dry rich-c: my 386/33 is working fine too, but it really isn't up to today's hardware and software George: it's warm here and dry. ithink it's going to be that way all winter BobS: the only software I need to run is ADAMEM basically rich-c: I don't reckon you're inclined to throw that back, George BobS: the 486 runs an A/C system which is supposed to have a Pentium 166 running it.... BobS: but the little 486 works, so ........ rich-c: well, ADAMEM was written for a 486 basically, so go for it rich-c: A/C? George: i'm having trouble trying to keep up with the chat BobS: at the office buildings I manage, with about 220 tons of ac to run electronically rich-c: oh, you were talking the application you're using it for rich-c: there's a lot of flexibility in what computer you can use for what rich-c: remember the guy from Rhode Island who was running his motel's TV announcement channel on an Adam using LOGO? BobS: the A/C man is APPALLED, but what the heck...I told him not to worry, it works and since I supplied the computer........ George: i have a copy of ADAMEM but i only know how to the cv roms work with it BobS: a 486 /33 is less sdaleable here tahn a pentium 166 , so I traded it out rich-c: you could always invite him to buy you a new one if he's upset BobS: right, bob Miller wasn't it????? rich-c: you're one up on me, George BobS: my CHEAP boss didn't even think we needed one, that is why I supplied one...but now he things it is awesome. but offer to pay?????? NOT rich-c: don't remember the last name but Bob it was George: i haven't used it in a long while rich-c: I've had Adamem for donkeys years but just haven't got into it rich-c: all the guys are on my back about it at the conventions rich-c: I heard about a guy out in western Canada who was running a sawmill on four Adams BobS: I think it was Miller BobS: he designed the AC11 logo too rich-c: I'll not dispute you rich-c: wonder where he went - haven't heard from him since and that was three years ago George: they used to have a lot of sites to aquire ADAMEM but they seem to have gone down rich-c: really? I haven't checked lately rich-c: I still have the files, they're among the ones I plan to transfer over rich-c: Bob, do you know which sites if any Marcel still has up? rich-c: also, did he carry out his plans to move to Brazil? BobS: BRAZIL!!!!!! BobS: think Marcel's site is still up rich-c: he said he was going to join his girlfriend there, if I recall rich-c: he's finished university now so I doubt the utwent site still works BobS: Marcel is still AT: http://www.komkon.org/~dekogel/adamem.html George: i also have vcoleco rich-c: right, that was the original BobS: why you want an aftermarket one???? rich-c: he was also on xs4all.ne/dekogel I believe rich-c: what's vcoleco? George: virtual coleco vision rich-c: never heard of it. tell me more George: i think neil danner had it rich-c: is that one of the gamer sites? George: i think he had a lot of info too rich-c: I'm not into classic gaming so I'm out of the loop on that George: that's Neal Danner sorry George: i have a lot of the carts rich-c: oh, I have a collection of carts, also ROM images rich-c: but we don't mention them as they're naughty George: so do i BobS: hey guys gotta go HAVE A FUN WEEKEND YES??????
BobS left chat session rich-c: amazing what you acquire in 20 years of buying old Adams George: i thought it was ok as long you have the carts rich-c: OK our best to the family; enjoy, Bob rich-c: yes, the makers don't like it, but a single backup for your own use of any piece of software is legal George: or hardware as the case may be rich-c: in fact when I sell software I offer a backup at extra cost rich-c: I suppose it would be legal to burn a new ROM from the original for your own use George: what i have fits on a 1.44 floppy rich-c: of course actually that's considered firmware rich-c: for the Adam I only have 320K and 720K floppy drives, plus the hared disc of course rich-c: do also have a pair of 160K drives on the backup Adam in the basement George: i was talking about to use on a pc rich-c: right - of course all pcs come with those rich-c: you should have seen the look on the vendors face when I said I wanted a 5-1/4 disc on my Athlon 1600XP rich-c: fortunately I was able to supply my own so he decided to humour the old fart George: i thought the roms could only be used on pc George: I mean IBM type rich-c: no, in fact they can only be used on a pc when it's emulating an Adam rich-c: it's the Colecovision graphics protocol that they respond to George: so the can be used on an ADAM? rich-c: oh, yes rich-c: there were lots of programs around that let you make images of your cartridge ROMs on the Adam rich-c: I have backup images of all my cartridges on disc rich-c: and by that I mean an Adam disc George: i need someone to teach me rich-c: well, that's what these chats are for rich-c: ask and someone who knows will answer you rich-c: I will with things I know about, others about their area of expertise rich-c: I used a very friendly program from the Practical Programs utility suite George: the chats get me mixed up rich-c: but there was also a program listing in Hacker's Guide to Adam you could type in rich-c: and there is also a CP/M program that does it rich-c: yes, you usually get a lot of crosstalk and it's hard to keep the threads separate rich-c: you get the girls talking about cats and kids and needlework and stuff George: i need to know what to type in in exact form rich-c: while the males are off on three different hardware subjectws at once rich-c: well, you need the text from the Hackers Guide - I don't know if anyone has that posted yet rich-c: you are on the Adam mailing list, aren't you? George: i don't know i haven't seen anything relating to ADAM in my email George: excet for your emails rich-c: mine are to you directly, not through the list rich-c: you did ask Dale to add you, didn't you? rich-c: reason I'm asking is, Scott Gordon just reported he hopes to have the Adam Resource website up soon rich-c: he's working on posting scans of the Adam Survival Guide George: i used the email link you sent and type subscribe in the subject box rich-c: I think he also had mirrors for Geoff Olthofs" and Pat McHugh's site, tho' I'm not sure rich-c: you did right, but Dale is awfully slow about acting on such things rich-c: sometimes you have to nag him George: maybe it just takes a while rich-c: of course, as you noticed Wednesday, he has a few other things on his mind at the moment! rich-c: oh, send him a direct message - dmwick@rogers.com - and ask him to please act on your mailing list request rich-c: or, I'm sure he has a personal link on the Adamcon.org main page rich-c: that likely goes to his company, Opengraphics George: ok i'll try that rich-c: yes, catch him while he's actually at the computer and online and it might stir him into action George: how will i know him? rich-c: well, on his personal address, it doesn't matter, and adamcon.org is also one of his personal endeavours George: ok
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changed username to rich rich-c: sorry George someone just tried to break into my computer rich-c: knocked me out of the chat room for a few moments George: that will never do rich-c: well, that's why I run Zone Alarm, to stop intrusion attempts George: how can you tell? rich-c: anyway, I don't know what form Dale uses for his email address at work rich-c: oh, every time there's unauthorized traffic in or out of my computer, ZA intercepts it rich-c: then it puts an alarm box up on my screen to tell me about it George: i have to watch what i put on my computers with aol rich-c: same way, if I inadvertantly install snoop software, ZA stops it from "phoning home" rich-c: I would say if AOL isn't prepared to deal with ZA, then no one should ever deal with AOL George: i had to disable mcafee firewall to get into chat rich-c: not this chat, I hope George: yes it was rich-c: that's ridiculous - Zone Alarm is free, works better, and as you can tell works fine with chat rooms George: aol will coexist with other firewall software and such George: i mean wil not coexist rich-c: I've been happy with McAfee Anti-Virus and PC First Aid on my old computer - like Crash Monitor rich-c: very seriouly, George - if AOL won't accept Zone Alarm, you have to ask yourself - rich-c: what is my computer telling them behind my back? rich-c: and is it any of their business? do I want them to know that? George: i think i need to go to bed i can't type right now rich-c: been a hard day, has it? George: too many typos rich-c: don't worry too much about them - you may notice BobS surely doesn't George: my fingers don't want to work rich-c: anyway, some day soon go to grc.com and read what's there rich-c: better rest your fingers, then. See you Wednesday? George: ok will do rich-c: good enough. bye for now, then George: goodbye rich-c: bye
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