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changed username to BobS BobS: Hallo rich-c: good evening Bob rich-c: hows things in Michigan? BobS: question......... rich-c: ga BobS: for $100 US what do I get in adn ADAM computer?????? rich-c: R80 complete with everything in teh original box, delivered to your door by USPS rich-c: how many qwould you like? BobS: had a guy email me (thinking I was you I believe) and was asking about what he would get BobS: in the ORIGINAL box with manuals etc????? rich-c: you don't get the original box - but manuals, tapes, cables, ribbon, yes BobS: OK, that's what I wanted to know, IF he contacts me again, I will take his $$$, send it to you and you can send him one!!!! rich-c: and of course all cleaned, tested, drive timed, etc BobS: well YAAAAA rich-c: oh, he can send it to me direct and considering what the post office does with mail these days, it would save a lot of time BobS: unless they are afraid to purchase if they know it is coming from out of the country BobS: people Are FUNNY
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: just tell him to do an internet se4arch on my name - Rich or Richard BobS: as in KING Richard
changed username to HLM rich-c: hello, here's Herman rich-c: welcome, Herman! BobS: HERMAN welcome my son!!!!!! HLM: Evening folks rich-c: we don't hear too much from you these days BobS: about time you got off the sofa can joined us....... ;-) BobS: everything going good....with Zandra and the little one..... HLM: yea rught I was at the last chat or was it 2 chats ago BobS: ???? rich-c: hey, we're here twice a week BobS: welll ya musta come when i wasn't there!!!! HLM: Yes, all is fine Bib
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changed username to Jillian Jillian: Greetings All! rich-c: now welcome to Jill - HI Jillian: How is everyone? Anything exciting happening? BobS: Hi JILL!!!!!! rich-c: how's the new Mom? HLM: Hi Jill rich-c: bet our lives arent as exciting as yours right now! BobS: oh nothign exciting here Jill.....anything with you and Dale ???????? Jillian: On the whole pretty good, tired today, Jeffy had a rough night last night and it has continued into today.
(BobS smiles) rich-c: got a touch of colic or something? HLM: yea I know about rough nites that carry over Jillian: A bit of a cold I think. He's sleeping now, but I may be paged at any moment. rich-c: we'll happily cut you the necessary slack, Jillian rich-c: where's the old man? HLM: they probably sleep in shifts Jillian: Thanks. Dale is still at work, stuck with the tech support problem that never ends and the user that doesn't listen. HLM: his turn to sleep rich-c: have you looked at Dilbert the lst few days? rich-c: he should hire Dogbert for his tech support Jillian: Normally Dale takes care of Jeffy from 8pm to midnight and I sleep. He gets from midnight to 8am. Jillian: Dogbert rules. rich-c: actually, to hear George Wahl's tales here, you'd think Dogbert was doing tech for AOL BobS: Judy wants to know Jill..........did you get a package from us??????? BobS: forgot on sat richard, did you show up and did George?????? Jillian: Yes we did. Thanks so much! The blanket is beautiful! We may actually use it as a wall hanging instead of using it in the crib. rich-c: yes, we were both there, and Guy was in too BobS: we were concerned maybe it got lost or something rich-c: we wre able to give George a lot of help - he seems good on hardware but lost on software rich-c: you have to allow for the post office here, Bob Jillian: I'm behind on my thank you notes, but we did get it. rich-c: you know that extra you pay to send things to Canada? that's the storage charge BobS: sent a portable computer to Canada the othere day and got it back in the mail today....wrong version of the declaration form ya know......and I mailed it AT a breanch office!!!!! BobS: SA RIGHT me dear!!!!!!! HLM: we ain't gonna go there I had more probs at P O than if I guess at weight etc myself and just load pkg up with stamps rich-c: hate to tell you, but I've never encountered a US postal clerk yet who knew anything about out of country mailing requirements HLM: atleast it will get there my way rich-c: dont know what Canada Customs and Revenue requires as a declaration these days rich-c: I think the little green tag is OK up to about $400 rich-c: but don't know what they demand beyond that HLM: brb BobS: NOPE!!!! I had the little green tag on it and it came back...had to use a LRGE white form in a plastic envelope they said...... BobS: even pasted the big plastic envelope on it with the form inside ready to fill out
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Jillian: at least they sent you the form rich-c: hello Guy
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changed username to George Guy B.: Hi Jill, How's the new mother doing? BobS: that's what I use Richard. got the price right, and the mail guy is my friend!!!! and he mailed it out!!! rich-c: and now here's George too Guy B.: HI George. BobS: hiya George!!!!! BobS: hi Guy!!! George: Hi everyone rich-c: the gang's really building up tonight rich-c: still Pam and Ron and james to come, but they tend to be later Jillian: Good, altough tired HLM: back Guy B.: Baby's been keeping you up, eh! HLM: Hello Guy BobS: BACK????? back from where?????? Guy B.: Hi Herman, Good to see you. HLM: Hello George BobS: got lost on the way to the little room?????? Jillian: His highness is requesting a snack. I'll be back as soon as possible. George: Hi Guy B.: We'll be here. Guy B.: Hi Bob Guy B.: Where's Judy tonight? rich-c: you got Zone Alarm up and running now, George? BobS: sitting here and watchintg the boob tube HLM: nowhere Bob Be nice HLM: had to answer the door BobS: ok, that works
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changed username to Meeka rich-c: hi Meeka Meeka: Hello Guy B.: I now will have a double protection against viruses. Got my E-mail Watchdog the other day. Not yet installed. BobS: hi Meeka Guy B.: Hi Meeka. HLM: No had our other grandchild dad came to get him George: i got it, but i forgot to set it up HLM: Hello Meeka rich-c: George, don't go surfing without it rich-c: you're safe on this website, but with an always-on connection, you're always vulnerable George: i'm not doing much of anything now Guy B.: And who knows what evil lurks out there! rich-c: yes, but you have a DSL connection so you're online all the time George: not the way aol does it HLM: I use tiny firewall since our last deal, and have had no probs rich-c: it's real upsetting to try to close down the computer and be told someone else is using your hard drive rich-c: I haven't tried it but the tiny firewall has a good reputation Guy B.: I printed out the docs for Tiny Personal Firewall that was on one of my Practical Windows CD-Rom's. rich-c: although I think it conflicts with Norton or something - there was a reason I didn't try it George: besides when i'm offline i'm powered down HLM: I like it its a pain the first few days saying yes or no to this that ant the other but it is worth it rich-c: happily, Zone Alarm is a set-and-forget operation rich-c: except for those programs that you do want to let out sometimes but mostly not HLM: I use mcaffe bit don't have any running fulltime in backround rich-c: I got a real deal on Norton System Works 2002 for the new computer Guy B.: Bob, I found a 14" monitor that someone was throwing out last weekend. I haven't yet tried it. If it works, do you want it? I can bring it with me to the con. HLM: I have nortons but TO ME, it slows my system down too much in backround George: the only things i can get away with running in the background are explorer and systray rich-c: at 1.4 gig slowdowns really arent an issue for me HLM: not so much downloads, I run a lot of things at once locally HLM: to not have dsl or cable my downloads are pretty good at about 52000 rich-c: yes, when you find out how many processes you have going at once, it can be intimidating BobS: Guy IF it works, can always use monitors.....gotta figure out HOW to put one on an ADAM
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changed username to <undefined> Guy B.: That would be great if that could be done. rich-c: far as I know, Bob, a VGA needs a 31 mhz minimum signal HLM: my home is controlled by X10 so it is up and all my chats and mail browser and whatever I am actually doing at the time rich-c: and I don't think Adam puts out even 15 mhz video
<undefined> left chat session BobS: well that's a BUMMER rich-c: yes, Frances" Amiga has two video outs, one for Commodore monitors @15, one for VGA @31 rich-c: even at that it will support 640 x 480 maximum HLM: DOES Anyone know of a generic sound driver that will work in DOS HLM: Seems NOW everyone feels dos is just for booting rich-c: hey, with 2000 and XP DOS has gone away completely BobS: hmmmmm...how about a sound blaster 16, the old one......... HLM: may have to be SB8 it is for that laptop rich-c: yes, the older sound cards were all allegedly SB compatible HLM: but soundblaster USUALLY checks to see it it is actually a creative labs card and bails out rich-c: guess you need the driver for an old SB clone, then HLM: tried to run a sb16 install pgm I had and it bailed out on me rich-c: my old computer has a Yamaha card that's supposed to be SB compatible rich-c: but the driver seems specific to amaha in some areas BobS: BUT ifd it has to go in a laptop, don't ya'll got to have a littel bitty one FOr that laptop???? rich-c: I see George has bailed on us
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changed username to George rich-c: ah, George is back BobS: yessir!!!!! HLM: I been stumped maybe Dougie fresh can bail me out somewhere down the road George: my keyboard locked up BobS: well tell Meeka to give ya his email address!!!!! Meeka: that would bbe if you can get him off of his on-line computer game ;-) rich-c: yes, she has rejoined now, I see BobS: can't ya vivist Toshiba website and get the specs for a soundcard?????
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. System got hung up. Meeka: Doug's e-mail is: email@example.com rich-c: back and twins, Guy, shades of Saturday HLM: they ditched me like I had the plague... best they do is offer a CD Rom driver for dos HLM: and it is OLD as in 16x or something BobS: why the heck do you want a sound card to sork only in dos?????? rich-c: Herman, give Yamaha a try just for luck HLM: thanks Meeka rich-c: also try a search for a driver on google rich-c: you don't always win on google rich-c: I did a search for a new battery cover for my camera there HLM: not ONLY in dos, just whlle in DOS booting a pet peve been doing it for years... Guy B.: Herman, try www.windrivers.com. They have CD-Rom drivers for Windows there. rich-c: but I sure got some expert answers on why I can't get one BobS: and Herman.........explain to Doug EXACTLY what you want to do and with what...........and operating system and why..... rich-c: hey, could Doug explain why suddenly the modem on my old computer won't work? George: you have to signup at windrivers now BobS: broken.......... Meeka: e-mail him and find out HLM: ok just really wanted some wav files to work on boot before windows comes up... It is my trade mark for systems I set up
(BobS winks) Guy B.: The last time I was there, you didn't have to. Did they change that now? George: it used to be free HLM: I will email him Meeka thanks... Guy B.: Bummer! rich-c: don't be surprised to hear from me too, Meeka Meeka: ok rich-c: Bob, I gather that motherboard hasnt got there yet BobS: nope.......... rich-c: mailed it last week so expect it soon BobS: ok rich-c: got real purty stamps on it! BobS: COOL!!!! Guy B.: Mine will be sent off next weekend. BobS: so Herman.......you have always set up the computer to play tunes while booting......since what version of Windows have you NOT been able to do it???? HLM: this damn 2000 me BobS: well back up to win98!!!!! Guy B.: Herman, do you have Windows 2000 Professional or Windows ME? HLM: thelaptop I am not exactly sure what it hs in it that is the biggest prob I guess and Toushiba is kinda evasive about it HLM: ME rich-c: can't you look on the POST screen? BobS: don't rightly know me boy........plays noises though..... HLM: probably Rich... Guy B.: How much memory is in the laptop? rich-c: that should tell you HLM: yea in WINDOWS it does excellent HLM: 32K BobS: Bill Gates is doing you a favor by keeping things silent for a little while!!!!!! HLM: George kicked his to 64 but they guy only had ONE Memory strip Guy B.: That's the minimum you need for WinME. You might need 64mb. rich-c: he's starting to run scared Meeka: brb HLM: OH wait laptop has 2nd edition 98 I was not thinking I have ME on this system BobS: well will George's do what you want????? Guy B.: I have Win98 SE on my Athlon and it runs fine with 128mb. It can run better with 64mb. BobS: ah ha ya'll don't KNOW what ya gots!!!!! rich-c: mine has 256 and runs fine with Win98SE Guy B.: Rephrase that. Your laptop will run better with 64mb with Win98 BobS: how much $$$ wa it to get the extra memory and was it available or hard to get??????? HLM: no it is not the memory Bob, it is just I need a dos driver... Just got this brainstorm for laptop 2 days ago BobS: I see............ Meeka: Doug got my chip from an on-line company rich-c: Herman, if you installed it as Win3.1 then overlaid the 98SE upgrade it would keep your DOS-loading drivers, wouldn't it? BobS: how much you got?????? Meeka: 96 ;-) HLM: laptop maxes out at 128 can't go no further... but it has the OLD type EXPENSIVE memory in it been trying to find it at a computer show George: i need a voice activated system as in star trek to be totally happy Guy B.: I use Win2000 Professional at work and IT put in 256mb memory when they upgraded us from WinNT. Runs without a hitch. HLM: doesn't use same ramm as desktops Meeka: duh Guy B.: Try online Herman. rich-c: no, laptop memory has historically been ferociously expensive HLM: I have 512 on my main desktop system and it is excellent despite most rumors I have not had a crash in ME yet that I did not force rich-c: is it Windows itself or TweakUI that has the system config panels? George: join the i hate ME fanclub HLM: yes Meeka it uses EDO or something I forgot exactly the letters but not sd ramm rich-c: way I heard it, Herman, the crashes start at anything over 512 BobS: IF you have OVER 512 ram???????
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changed username to Judy rich-c: hi Judy Guy B.: That's the first that I heard of Windows crashing over 512mb. Judy: Hi, Rich Guy B.: Hi Judy rich-c: there are power users out there, Bob HLM: then I am straight because I will not be adding anything else... it is pretty stable and I am happy Meeka: when we got the memory for mine, Doug found it off of e-bay. he searched the guys web-site and bought it that way, but he doesn't remember where or quite how much it was right off hand Judy: Hi, Guy HLM: Laptop is STABLE, just ME wanting to do the impossible HLM: Hi Judy rich-c: the reason I have Win98SE is because of all the reviews I read about ME Judy: Hi, All Meeka: hey mom ;-) Guy B.: I heard of certain laptops not doing well with WinME. But, runs fine with Win98. rich-c: even Consumer Reports said it wasn't what it ought to be Judy: Meeka, Mandy went to the doctor tonight and found out she sprained her ankle rich-c: and George, if you're not an ME fan, you should subscribe to the Langa List Meeka: how? Guy B.: How did she do that? HLM: SE os gppd... my wife's system I passed down to her has never had a real prob except power supply seeing I leave all my systems on 24/7 Judy: fell in the doctors parking lot Monday Guy B.: Did she trip on the snow or ice? rich-c: well, if you're going to sprain something, that's the place to do it HLM: that is when it iwas MINE now it is only on maybe once a week or every other week for her mine stills stays on Meeka: does she have to wear an ace bandage or anything? Judy: if you have to get hurt I quess the doctor is the place to do it HLM: Don't Sue Bob... Judy: yes they put one on it tonight
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changed username to Dale Dale: Hi all. rich-c: hello Dale Dale: Finally made it home. Judy: she did skin it up too so it is really bothering her HLM: Hello Dale Meeka: I know exzctly how that feels, I used to do that ot mine all the time in school BobS: HI Dale!!!!! Judy: Hi, Dale Dale: What a day. And I still have work to do tonight. Guy B.: Hi Dale rich-c: Dale, we've decided you need to hire Dogbert to do your tech support BobS: got the day's problems all worked out yes?????? George: i zoned out
(Guy B. laughs heartily) Dale: It would have helped today forsure. Dale: The problem is that the target system has an unusual setup. Guy B.: Yesterday wasn't my day at work. Got socked bad with semi annual reports. rich-c: there's such a thing as a usual setup? Dale: C: is a removable Smart media reader, and the boot drive is G: Judy: she is up in bed keeping it up Dale: The software they were installing doesn'r support that configuration. Judy: we went to Sams to get diaper for her tonight rich-c: I see even Microsoft now is telling you to buy from your own systems builder and get a custom config Judy: we should have bought them last night Guy B.: That's the way to go now. You can put what you want down. That's what I did with the both the P133 and the Athlon. rich-c: what OS is he running that allows G as a boot drive? Dale: Windows 2000 Professional Meeka: I will try to remember to bring over my ace sock. In a few days she will be able to wear that instead of the bulky bandage one. HLM: you can use any drive as a boot drive if configured Judy: that would be great, thanks rich-c: really? Bill has finally got over demanding C or nothing? Judy: did you get your stuff from Menards yet rich-c: not in Windows, Herman; I've been down that road Meeka: no HLM: takes a bit of switching but you can or should I say force it to another area HLM: NO SIR GK uses K as his windows directory YES it does put SOME files in C, but basically K is his windows drive HLM: he is running se George: my encarta installed on d much to my surprise rich-c: encarta's just an application, you can put it anywhere Meeka: Sherri's Doug didn't get home till 6:30 tonight and by then she decided that she would rather jsut stay if we didn't mind cuz the boys were giving her fits by fighting with eachothter over the toys and she was just going to put them to bed HLM: we sat up half the nite but it is NOW working Perfectly on K for windows George: i thought it would default to c Judy: Michael was not to happy either all day rich-c: well, it's those basic files on C that do it, Herman Meeka: she said that he got his tooth through today, so maybe that will help Judy: poor little guy must have hurt, he told her his mouth hurt Judy: he may be working on more teeth rich-c: yes, when they start teething. kids do have a hard time BobS: pamela, pamela......where are you?????????? Judy: he doesn't even have as many teeth as Ryan HLM: no I am not sure...when asked he changed it first it rejected but then it took NOW I have a beta testers version of SE and 98 rich-c: funny, I've been wondering the same thing rich-c: we don't have james or Ron either BobS: that's right......... Guy B.: Ron should be coming soon. HLM: so I am not sure if it is different from commercial but I/we were beta testers and I got all my stuff free rich-c: maybe Dale can tell you if Windows betas have special tweaks to make testing easier HLM: and I use the switch ?ND after setup Judy: he was happy yesterday but wouldn't sleep HLM: /ND that is Judy: so , quess I was lucky that he just wouldn't sleep rich-c: Windows does not hand out much depth of documentation to general users HLM: we were told that /nd overwrites ALL exhisting stuff with NEW info... maybe that has something to do with it also. rich-c: I uninstalled the 33.6K modem from my old machine and shut it down rich-c: then I put in a 56K and let Windows detect it and install the software rich-c: but it won't work, and the 33.6 reinstalled won't work either rich-c: went all thru the Help troubleshooter - it finally said "I Dunno" Guy B.: You have to remove the old modem from the System panel. HLM: ok install it twice it is probably on the wrong port rich-c: I did - I removed it from the system panel and through the modem icon rich-c: I have already installed/removed/reinstalled everything several times Guy B.: You probably will have to restart the system BEFORE you install the new modem. rich-c: I even uninstalled and reinstalled Dial-up Networking rich-c: oh, I shut down the system between installs too rich-c: now the phone dialler and the modem specs both agree it's on COM2 HLM: I had that problem... think now what I DONE was this AOL is good at purging a sysem... IT TOLD ME where modem was, and I changed info to match where it told me and it eworked ok rich-c: but it can't hear a dial tone and doesn't dial HLM: I had a modem to die 2 weeks after I got my system. they wanted entire system back by then I had added memory 2nd hd and all that Guy B.: Here what you should try. Reinstall the new modem. If Windows doesn't detect on startup. You will have to manually install it through the Add New Hardware Wizard. HLM: so I I had to wing it on my own. rich-c: done that, Guy, a couple of times Guy B.: Did it detect it? rich-c: I've been pulling and putting hardware so much I've left the computer case off HLM: I think it is installed you just have software figured as it WAS instead of maybe new com port.. rich-c: yes, it detects it and says it installed the software and everything is working fine HLM: if it says it is there it is there jsut software may not be talking to it. Guy B.: When I installed the 56K modem on the P133. My manual said I to install the software drivers first before I installed the modem. rich-c: go into settings, hit the system area, and it shows "device is functioning properly" HLM: maybe you are used to seeing it on say com2 look elsewhere try telling software to try another com port. rich-c: this modem they say put the device in first and let Windows detect it Guy B.: Did you go to the System Panel to see if there are any unknown devices? Meeka: well guys, I gotta go. I need to finish folding my laundry and get it put away before bed. see ya next week Guy B.: Bye Meeka. HLM: ok nite Meeka Dale: Jill is watching "The Anotomy of the Callapse" on TLC. All about the structural integrety of the World Trade Centre. Judy: bye, Meeka, see you soon rich-c: yes, but they don't relate to modems - just non-existent USB ports BobS: one problem we had with modems not working was......the modemd HAS to be installed BEFORE the internet program can be installed OR it wil NOT work rich-c: nite Meeka George: bye Meeka BobS: you may even be able to "talk" to tght modem but the ie programs will not use it Guy B.: You probably didn't set the USB ports through the BIOS setup.
Meeka left chat session HLM: Rich I really feel modem is ok just on another port t ry re installing communication software and see it it detects the difference rich-c: no, the old computer never had USB ports installed, just the pins and they're disabled HLM: make sure other modem is removed from hardware list rich-c: the old computer is still on Win95 Guy B.: I bet there is an Unknown device in the System panel. I had that in Win95 and I double clicked on it and sure enough there were the other hardware devices. I had to reboot the system and Win95 detected it and installed the drivers. rich-c: erman, what I'm seeing says the modem is OK but the software isn't detecting it rich-c: did I mention that the error messages vary too? BobS: maybe it is a chinese modem....... ;-) BobS: likre they ALL are rich-c: sometimes I get an error 630 - hardware not installed (Windows can't detect) HLM: OK then you can manually change software... I have had to do that rich-c: other times I c rich-c: get dialling failure, no dialtone BobS: try putting the telephone line intot he "phone" connection BobS: we have had a lot of them mislabeled....or mis pinned rich-c: that's whre it's supposed to go - line is for networks Guy B.: Rich, which system are you having the modem problem? BobS: how many connections you got to pluyg into......don't care WHAT they say..... rich-c: P166MMX - Win95 rich-c: just the two connections, Bob Guy B.: The old one. Is it a PCI modem? rich-c: and yes, I tried the line connection too - it said can't find the other computer BobS: have you tried with the phone cable in both?????? rich-c: no, it's a hardware modem, runs in the ISA slot BobS: we HAD modems that had to use the "phone" connection to work Dale: I'd better go have supper. Bye for now. HLM: against your better Judgement I HATE IT ALSO, but I bet CASH MONEY if you install AOL it will find it, install it, and attempt to use it rich-c: bye now Dale - take it easy, Pop Guy B.: How many external serial ports do you have on the old system? Dale: I'll try to find some time to update the archive. Dale: poof Guy B.: Bye Dale. HLM: AOL and COMMUTE32 are the BEST programs that use a modem I seen at finding bastard setups that I usually use do to my X10 rich-c: physical, two
Dale left chat session Guy B.: Try disabling one of the them through the BIOS setup. I bet that will clear it up. rich-c: my distrust of AOL is so great I won't even save their CDs to use as coasters George: what? rich-c: I"m afraid just having them in the house might infect something! rich-c: actually, COM1 - the mouse port - is fine; COM2 is set on Auto George: did i hear someone say that aol is good for something? HLM: I got mixed emotions service is not bad SERVICE IS JUST SO LARGE it is targed for hackers... it has a lot of loop holes in it or DID Guy B.: You don't have a PS/2 for the mouse? rich-c: every time I tried installing a modem it went to a different port - I saw 2, 3, 4 and 5 rich-c: I didn't even know I had a logical 5 Guy B.: Do this. Disable COM2 through the BIOS. Then boot the system up and see if WIndows detects the modem. rich-c: George, you gotta get used to Herman, he has strange ways sometimes HLM: 5 is a NO NO on new systems, usually 3 from factory I THINK I like 4 as not to interfere with my X10 George: i have two words for hackers STOP IT rich-c: I have two words for you, George: stop them Guy B.: Use the Firewall George. HLM: they got good hackers and bad hackers... I have hacked for YRARS but not into companies sysems, just on software rich-c: that's what Zone Alarm (and updats and Pest Patrol and firewalss and stuff) are for BobS: oh for the days when the modems had jumpers to set ports Guy B.: Serial boards too. HLM: yea those days are gone for good Bob BobS: trouble is can't find them above about 33.6 or so and theya re hard to find HLM: good old plug n play George: mom said if you can't do anyhing good don't do anything at all BobS: plug and plays SUCKS Guy B.: Sometimes, they can be a headache. George: i disabled plug and play HLM: It only Sucks if you are not the average person that does NOTHING but buy a sysem printer and use it... for US who does the unsuspected it sucks HLM: HEY we got ADAM's we are used to it... :) rich-c: Jill, something I forgot to ask Dale - about the JamCam 3.0 rich-c: is the "multi-media" memory card it uses the Compact Flash card? Guy B.: Well folks. Have to read the e-mail. So I'll see you all next week. Won't be here on Saturday. Going into work. rich-c: and if so, is there a limit to the size it will take? HLM: ok nite Guy rich-c: OK Guy, see you next week then BobS: bye guy
Guy B. left chat session HLM: ok what software came with your modem Rich... try that I KNOW you may don't want it but IT WILL TELL YOU exactly where the modem is and what ports rich-c: the software is just a couple of .INF files that duplicate ones in Windows' livrary already George: there was something in the new about plug and play making it vulnerable to hackers HLM: ok I bought a Zoom and it came with COMMUNICATE32 rich-c: you can cure that by downloading an update from Microsoft, George rich-c: mine is an ifxC or something George: did they have it on the windowsupdate? BobS: the drivers should NOT duplicate what is in windows, they shoul dbe specific to the modem..... HLM: ok you got a private ISP I assume no body with self installing software rich-c: I believe so, but with Zone Alarm who cares? The black hats can't get at it anyway BobS: course if they are like the printer software i got, they were old and not working right rich-c: well of course Windows has a built-in library of drivers for all sorts of peripherals BobS: THAT is why I HATE plug and pray.......... HLM: problem is this if you MANUALLY CHOOSE anything then the com ports AND the IRQ ports gotta match BobS: and they might not be the correct one either BobS: for that damn printer, we had to ge them online form the HP website BobS: SOLD that sucker and got it the heck out of here rich-c: I am quite sure my problem is internal to Windows, not in the modem driver per se rich-c: remember that when reinstalled my old 33.6 modem wouldn't work either HLM: My nephew had probs with HP I got the cheapest s... on themarket a Lexmark and it works fine his HP had to go back also BobS: who knows......and the old modem not working now either does NOT surprise me........had that problem with one we tried to "steal" and put into BobS: another computer, never did get it working right........ HLM: I really think it has com conflicts.. OK DO THIS whenit says check for dial tone FIRST say NO, and see if you hear it trying to dial out in your speaker rich-c: the Windows troubleshooter did suggest running Windows Setup... rich-c: erman, I am sure that you are right HLM: yea but that will probably screw up everything else BUT THE MODEM rich-c: that was the way I read it, Herman rich-c: I am not anxious to reinstall Windows on a dual-boot machine HLM: OK then just manually force software to a different port and IGNORE the message that advises against it.. try 3 and 4 pretty sure it would NOT choose 1 from default rich-c: how do I force software to a different port? HLM: modem setup or sometimes under edit phone numbers you call to access it... in the advanced area it usually alows for changing ports rich-c: either the Phone Dialler isn't addressing the port it thinks it's addressing rich-c: or the modem isn't on the port where the Systems panel claims it is George: brb my house is falling down HLM: ok wait do you just have an entry in dial up properties and no real software like apk you basically just have a number and a ID no special software rich-c: I think so, Herman, if I understand your question correctly HLM: ok in modem properties create another dial up and enter said phone number and ofcourse id an PW when it asks you BobS: well I don't understand........ rich-c: I'm not going to do this now, Herman rich-c: I've found this chat applet gets unreliable when I try multitasking HLM: if you click on the TELEPHONE in control panel it will allow you to create another dialup rich-c: I will have to download the transcript and follow the ideas later BobS: yes, but IF the modem is not jumperable for settign the port address, how are you going to talk to it???? rich-c: yes, I think at one point I tried the "make new connection" route - no joy HLM: ok or I will gladly duplicate the situation on my system if you want to call and i can try to talk you through
Jillian left chat session rich-c: I'm afraid we might set a new one-call record for enriching Ma Bell HLM: because windows SHOULD FIND IT and tell you what IT IS SET AS and you are supposed to configure software to match it rich-c: right, Herman, but it seems Windows is lying to me HLM: No inpossible I have already done that... ask BOB and DOUG and don't leave out Zonker... thankfully GK is local BobS: as far as I am concerned, "plug and play" stuff is a shot in the dark, may work or may not depends on the day, clouds, etc HLM: last resourt you can delete all traces of a modem and put BOTH MODEMS IN and get two entries and choose the one you want rich-c: thankfully, it isn't a critical issue for me, just a nuisance BobS: Doug hates it too. We have taken a working modem out and never got to work again....... HLM: I have done that also rich-c: I have the laptop if I need a backup to go on line with at any time rich-c: and as you can see the new computer is working fine HLM: is it XP HLM: 1.6 probably is rich-c: well, I will give that a shot too, Herman rich-c: won't be soon as I'm tied up tomorrow and all day Friday BobS: BIGGEST thing to do besides deleting from the control panel modem listing si to go under the control panel, system, device manager HLM: ok well I am available work is slow right now probably til March BobS: and delete all thos little items with the yellow exclamation points too rich-c: now that I have the key files transferred it doesn't REALLY matter if the old computer never works again HLM: it will haunt ya rich you will get it going we all know that George: HELP! rich-c: no yelloe astonishers present, just question marks BobS: if yellow, delete them, they will probably install correectly next time HLM: shoot George George: my place is caving in rich-c: what do you mean, caving in? George: books all over me BobS: HALP !!!!!! HLM: oh heck that is normal.. I cd's and books all around me trying to find a driver for dos rich-c: you having a minor earthquake in Philadelphia? George: my entertaiment center is falling apart HLM: its made for ONE STEREO and maybe TV not like me books, software and all else rich-c: is a shelf giving way or something? HLM: thats what it sounds like George: veneer is turning to dust BobS: ooops!!!! rich-c: you got termites or something? HLM: no comments how many of us can rally afford pure wood now days George: age rich-c: sounds like all you can do is your best to save the pieces BobS: hey fellers, time to hit the hay here.......... George: can't affford to replace it rich-c: OK Bob, you be here Saturday? HLM: ok sir Nite for now... BobS: Herman, GLAF to "see" you tonight......George likewise.......Richard a pleasure as always......... BobS: nope got to work on sat at the antique mall BobS: bummer dude!!!!! BobS: see ya next Wed!!!!!!
BobS left chat session rich-c: looks like the group will be thin, then - maybe Ron will make up for missing tonight George: nite BobS George: i'm missing my the spot to click rich-c: it's OK George - as anyone who's seen our house can tell you, books stack very well on the floor HLM: Well I guess I will continue hunting a driver, BUT email me rich if ya need anything rich-c: and for rebuilding, scrounge some bricks and some sturdy boards HLM: no NAILS rich-c: in my generation that was the way all of us made our starter shelving George: i have screws rich-c: Herman, I certainly will, and do give Google a shot for the driver HLM: I will try it rich-c: good to have you by tonight - do do it again soon George: now all we have left is wood dust and glue today HLM: I will Saturday is bad though that is the only day our Grand CHild's dad comes for her so we head out ANYWHERE jut to get away rich-c: well, it won't be fun picking up the mess rich-c: but with luck you'll find what broke and maybe be able to repair it rich-c: OK Herman, but do hope you can make next Wednesday HLM: ok gents I am gone will try Rich... Nite George and Rich rich-c: nite Herman George: nite Herman
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