changed username to George rich-c: hello George George: Hi Rich rich-c: need to tell you now - there will be massive delay on your order rich-c: the reeason is I am seriously ill and temporarily cannot cope George: ok George: sorry to hear that rich-c: do not know how or why but last Thursday got hit with bad case of pneumonia rich-c: so far I have not had to go into hospital, and the doctor did not push the idea George: please take care of yourself rich-c: but I've been able to sleep only fitfullly, have lost at least five pounds rich-c: oh, I will do exactly as the doctor says when and how he says to do it rich-c: pneumonia is like that - it dictates your life, you no longer have a say George: i know that George: i had it in 1991 for three months rich-c: well, I'm not interested in pushing boundaries and having blackouts in return or such like rich-c: sometime early next week we'll have to have a lung x-ray and see how we stand George: it left me weak rich-c: then the decsion will have to be made on which medication for how long rich-c: yes, I've always believed that real men mow their own lawns rich-c: 24 hours after analyzing this with the doctor, I signed on a gardener for a year rich-c: the doctor was mutting things about maybe having it cleared up in the fall
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changed username to BobS BobS: HI fellers rich-c: hello Robeert George: Hi Bob BobS: how's things?????? rich-c: not good - am down with pneumonia - full E-ticket version BobS: YIKES!!! and just WHY did you get it now????? BobS: runnjing around with no jacket eh???? rich-c: who knows? last Wed. I was fine, next a.m. I was down with it by noon rich-c: no one can take the wildest guess as to what caused it or why BobS: well..........lst wed you were probably coming down with it............... BobS: got antibiotics???? rich-c: it must have been incubating overnight, yes rich-c: yes, the doctor thinks its bacterial and an antibiotic does seem to be helping BobS: GOOD BobS: does this mean that Frances has a chance of contracting it??????? rich-c: the first course of antibiotic runs for ten days rich-c: of course I've already covered some of that BobS: well then, youa re workign on a week tomorrow morning rich-c: no one seems to know what risk to Frances may be if any BobS: seems like bacterial could be passed around like a plate of cookies rich-c: anyway, at the end of the first course I'll get an xray and decision on where to go from there rich-c: doctor does seem to think he should have me fairly well over it by fall, barring unforseens BobS: BY FALL!!!!!!! I would certainly hope so BobS: tha givces him about 6 months........ rich-c: pneumonia is not a trivial problem - I'm lucky to have escaped hospital so far
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changed username to Pamela Pamela: Hi all rich-c: I always assumed it was just some sort of hot-rodded cold - no way is that so rich-c: hi daughter BobS: PAMELA...........the bedridden's relative!!!! Pamela: How are you feeling Dad rich-c: hey, I even got dressed today BobS: you not watching your papa good enough.........he got into trouble Pamela: wow, that's impressive George: Hi Pamela BobS: tha is a GOOD sign Pamela: Bob, if I watch him too closely, he shoos me away Pamela: Hi, George Pamela: Don't fuss, he says rich-c: don't let her kid you, Bob, she's already been invaluable running errands and stuff Pamela: I'm fine, he says Pamela: What's a girl to do? I can't disobey my Daddy Pamela: He tells me to go away, I go away Pamela: At least temporarily BobS: well, comes a time, when you HAVE to put your feet down and take root............. rich-c: you know how acute daughters' hearing is when the old man is saying something they dont want to hear BobS: but let the folks think it was their idea...... Pamela: extra sensitive
(BobS winks) Pamela: Haven't got to that point yet, Bob Pamela: But I'm sure my folks are planning for the day
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changed username to Dr.D. Pamela: Better? rich-c: hello again BobS: hi Rich Pamela: Dad, how's Mom? rich-c: breathing down my neck, why? Pamela: Just hoping she's feeling better - I didn't have time to call today BobS: HI FRANCES!!!!! Pamela: Hi, Mom
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changed username to Judy Pamela: Hey, Judy Dr.D.: Back at last. rich-c: Frances says her fever seems slightly diminished from yesterday Judy: hi, Pam BobS: oh oh, Judy[s here, be aquiet andf don't talk about her rich-c: hi Judy Pamela: BTW Dad, the monitor's working fine - but boy, is it ever small Dr.D.: Fever? Ouch. George: Hi Judy BobS: and just what is wrong with Frances????? Pamela: That's good news Dr.D.: Well, I'm here tonight courtesy of my new ADSL connection . BobS: PAMELA!!!!!!! take care of those two Judy: Hi, Rich, hear you are not feeling to great BobS: at the university or at home?????? Pamela: I'm trying Bob - helping out wherever I can Dr.D.: At home. BobS: COOL Judy: hi, George Pamela: They call, I come running BobS: you ar int he big leagues now eh? rich-c: so now the girls can talk and you can still chat online - neat Dr.D.: $50/month, same as $20 56K dialup + $30 2nd phone line. Pamela: good economics, Rich Dr.D.: So I figured I'd keep one line and have faster net.access for same $$$. Dr.D.: Also not sure that this house is wired right for 2nd phone line... rich-c: in your position, it makes good sense BobS: cool Dr.D.: But as for ADSL bandwidth, I really don't need it. rich-c: doubt you could have survived much longer on one phone line anyhow Dr.D.: It does let me watch the archived LEGO lab video at higher frame rate and in stereo sound, though. Pamela: not with four girls plus Joan in the house Dr.D.: In tests, I have 60Kbytes/sec download and 18Kbytes/sec upload. Judy: our kids think we need a second line , also rich-c: tell them they can have as many as they want to pay for, Judy Dr.D.: Depends on whether you need only one voice line or not. Pamela: After all, my parents only had me, and we eventually needed a second line Dr.D.: Here we really need only one voice line. Pamela: Still remember the number too Judy: I don't think they want it that bad Dr.D.: It was clogging it up with computer stuff that created the bottleneck. rich-c: there was some question about the needed bit, if I recall Dr.D.: If it weren't for Joan and Christina complaining, I probably wouldn't have done it :-) Pamela: Well, you certainly weren't sharing! Dr.D.: So Pam had the gift of gab as a teenager, Richard? Pamela: C'mon, is it any wonder I work on the phone for a living? Pamela: Once I learned to talk, I never shut up Dr.D.: I don't think I talked to anybody on the phone about non-school stuff until spring of my senior year... rich-c: think there's still some leftover echoing around her old room... Pamela: which he is occupying Dr.D.: (high school, that is) Dr.D.: I was (and am) hardly Mr. Society... Judy: we had one child llike that too Dr.D.: Christina, on the other hand... Judy: it wasn't Doug, though Pamela: Problem was, I acquired a boyfriend at the ripe old age of 15 - and spent all my spare time talking to him rich-c: not all - there were girlfriends, and mutual friends, too George: i'm in La La land nodding in and out Pamela: yes, but Chris was the catalyst Judy: we didn't have too much trouble when the kids were young, but now Bob is on the internet everynight Pamela: George, gotta stay with the program Dr.D.: Sounds like ADSL would be a good match for you, assuming you are within 12000 feet of the central office. Pamela: either that or go to bed Judy: yes, it is only 9:40 Dr.D.: That is the distance limit, at least here in Ameritech land... BobS: don't think we are within 12000 ft of anything Dr.D.: Then that is a problem... Pamela: where's your nearest neighbour? George: i'm at 12007 ft Dr.D.: I think they will attempt to connect stuff up to 14000 feet, but they will not guarantee it. rich-c: tell them to pull a little harder on the wire, George Judy: now that we network the kids can instant message me so that is a help Pamela: they obviously need to take up the slack Dr.D.: 7 feet isn't much...probably within statistical tolerances. George: dsl techs said i got a raw deal Judy: not too far away Pamela: need to move to the next building over, George Dr.D.: So they wouldn't even try it, George? George: it works slowly rich-c: well, if you're buying from AOL, you have to expect a raw deal George: only twice as fast my 56k connection Dr.D.: What kind of connect speeds did you get with 56K? George: 46000 Dr.D.: Except in a driving rainstorm, I am routinely 44K-46K. Pamela: I'm getting 48000 right now Dr.D.: I've never seen it that high here, Pam. Pamela: how about you, Dad? rich-c: what program are you using to verify your speed? Pamela: who? Dr.D.: The MacOS dialer tells me the connect speed at dialup. rich-c: Windows Dialler shows alleged connect speed - always for me 45333 Dr.D.: The ADSL speed test I mentioned, I just transferred a large file with an FTP program which also tells bytes/sec. rich-c: I do have Free Net Monitor installed but haven't activated it George: now its 45333bps BobS: can get 44000 here at optimum times only, mostly a lot slower BobS: 28.8 in laptops only run at 26.6..........a correlation here??????? BobS: maybe only run at pere=cent of possible speed of modem?????? rich-c: your speed reading will vary depending on whether you use the Windows module or one of the independent units that tells the truth rich-c: Bob, the base speed measure is bps, overall in Kbps which is x1024 not 1000 BobS: well, we have also had ie dial up networkifn tell us it is connected at faster than the spped of the modem .......hmmmmmmm Pamela: neat trick BobS: menaing what?????? BobS: 26.6 is really 28.8 ????????? George: its still better than the old 300 baud rich-c: I believe that that is possible on certain of the older modems, Bob BobS: 300 baud text went pretty well Pamela: BRB folks rich-c: something about some being labelled 28.8 but actually dping 33.6 or something George: but could you use realplayer? George: am i still with you? BobS: makes ya wonder huh?
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changed username to Guy B. Pamela: Which reminds me, Rich, just where are they hiding the free version of RealPlayer on that site? George: ? Pamela: Hi, Guy Guy B.: Greeting Everyone! Dr.D.: Depends on if you are looking with a Mac or a PC... Judy: hi, Guy Pamela: PC George: Hi Guy BobS: and I got a wisecom at work that is 33.6 and it only connects at 14.4 or 19.2 and that is correct, cause it is slow BobS: HI GUY
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(Guy B. reboots <undefined>'s computer remotely.) Pamela: Guy! Guy B.: At least I didn't do it to you, right! Pamela: poor souls, if they're new here, they may think we don't want them Guy B.: Well, maybe they don't know what to do. Pamela: Just where have you been hiding this nasty streak, Guy? Dr.D.: (<undefined>'s computer burns up, freezes, or falls into the sun, and almost everyone dies) Judy: we are a friendly bunch BobS: Pam, he has alwasys been that way, you just haven't known him that long Guy B.: Me, nasty! Not me Pam. My sister maybe, but not me. Pamela: You know, I think that may have been Dad - he just disappeared Dr.D.: Sister! You have a twin sister! Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from us! BobS: was just a cojputer software glitch Guy B.: Well, we have seem to lost them. Pamela: Sorry, Guy, your secret is out Dr.D.: If you will not turn...perhaps *she* will!
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changed username to rich-c Pamela: Hey Dad, was that you? Pamela: the twins, I mean BobS: po richard, having a BAD time gettign on the boat Guy B.: It was your dad all along Pam. Judy: that is what Bob said right away rich-c: quite likely - I was multitasking and it backfired BobS: its the pnemonia Pamela: now, don't you feel sorry for being nasty? Dr.D.: PNEUMONIA!?!?!?! I missed something here. BobS: POW, boom!!!!! Pamela: He came down with it a week ago, Rich BobS: the Clee's are UNDER the weather Judy: Rich has it Dr.D.: Gack, why isn't he in hospital? rich-c: yes, have a nasty dose, Rich Guy B.: Well, we all know how your dad's ISP can give him a headache sometimes. rich-c: not that there are any nice ones Pamela: the elder Clees are anyway - I finally ditched my cold Guy B.: By the way. My sister is younger than me. Pamela: my ISP too Judy: is the weather that bad up there? Dr.D.: I was just trying out my Darth Vader voice, Guy :-) rich-c: doctor said I didn't have to go if I'd rather not rich-c: felt I could cope at home if that were my choice
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changed username to Meeka Meeka: hello Dr.D.: Hope they have you on good antibiotics. Guy B.: Hi Meeka Dr.D.: Hi Meeka. Pamela: Antibiotic horse pills and two inhalers, he'll be moving mountains in no time Pamela: Hi, Meeka Judy: Hi, Meeka BobS: back from the store I see Meeka Dr.D.: Wonder what it is...tetracycline? Rifampicin? Erythromycin? Judy: back from the store Meeka: yup Pamela: dunno - what is it, Dad? rich-c: still in the diagnostic range, Rich, see what the xrays say in a few days Judy: Ryan didn't go to sleep until after 9 Pamela: perhaps good old fashioned penicillen? Dr.D.: Well, let's hope the weather isn' Meeka: ahh, poor grandma Dr.D.: isn't bad in Toronto. BobS: had to play Richard Scarry's computer game for him Pamela: wow Meeka, you do that so well Meeka: do what so well Pam? Pamela: just the right tone and inflection Judy: yea, feel sorry for me, I need it rich-c: it's called Ceftin, generically Cefuroxime Axetil BobS: CUT THAT OUT!!!!!! Pamela: but tugging tails is sooo much fun! Dr.D.: Okay, a cephalosporin. They went right to level 2 of antibiotics. Dr.D.: They aren't taking any chances, if that's any comfort to you, Richard. Pamela: Nice to know the doc was on the ball - did he tell you she made a housecall??? rich-c: septaugenarin smokers with sudden onsets do inspire caution I guess, Rich Dr.D.: Nope...glad to hear it. Pamela: I was shocked, I ddin't think they knew what the word meant anymore Dr.D.: Well yes...I hope you are cold turkey for the duration (speaking as a biologist-type person). rich-c: I'd imagine th level two was more for fear of resistance endemic to our area than any personal questioin Pamela: he was as of yesterday, Rich Dr.D.: Hope everything gets better soon. Meeka: brb, need to get a drink rich-c: I will stay off till I feel it is safe and comfortable for me to resume Dr.D.: As for me, I am following George in starting to nod off at this keyboard...too many 5:30 AM wakeups in a row. Pamela: shoulda seen him Monday - he was doing his Fidel Castro impression. Dr.D.: So, I think I will sign off for tonight. rich-c: naw, the beard was strictly Yasser Arafat Guy B.: Bye Dr. D. Pamela: That's when I knew he was really sick - he always shaves Pamela: g'nite Dr. D Dr.D.: G'nite, and good health to all! rich-c: OK Rich take care, see you
Dr.D. left chat session George: bye Dr. D Pamela: that was a quick exit BobS: and he has the dsl line....... Guy B.: Anyone want a banana? Pamela: please - I'm still hungry Meeka: ok, I back Guy B.: That's what I'm having and it seems someone else does too! BobS: NO, want a chocolate donut!!!!! Pamela: BTW Meeka, I got Pooh back from the framers and was finally able to present it to it's rightful owner - everyone was delighted Meeka: I have some Whoppers Pam Guy B.: Judy? Pamela: sold George: i want icecream Meeka: Cool!!! BobS: BACK ???????? didn't now you was gone Pamela: I got pictures - will bring them along in August if I remember Meeka: ok Pamela: haven't had Whoppers in years Guy B.: I'll be bringing a couple of computers with me to the con. Pamela: good thing you don't have far to go, Guy Meeka: me either, but they were putting out frest stock tonight, so I got some rich-c: I will hope to bring the laptop and come home with the emulator all set up on it Pamela: hey Dad, can i have a laptop for my birthday? Pamela: pleeeaaasssee??? Guy B.: I'll be bringing the notebook, the P75 and a standalone Adam to use with Adamserve. rich-c: haven't we been round that one already, Pam? Pamela: shucks Pamela: It was worth a try BobS: keep at him Pam....he will brek someday rich-c: but speak nicely to Bob - he can likely find a nice laptop for you Pamela: sorry Dad, I'll stop making you laugh now Pamela: I tried Allyson's Thinkpad recently - really liked it Pamela: nice large keyboard, easy to use mouse, good screen, relatively fast rich-c: well, a Thinkpad 166MMX is not always that expensive Guy B.: My dog is asking me for a snack, since I had a banana. Pamela: gotta fix my monitor first, then we'll see Judy: Sandi just messaged me, Mom and Dad will be home tomorrow Meeka: that's good mom rich-c: when are you taking your monitor in, Pam? Pamela: as soon as I can find a day to take the car in - somehow I don't think I can carry the box on the subway Pamela: Once I get it to Davis, it'll be about a week and a half rich-c: must say I'd not recommend it, at least in rush hour BobS: buy anew onw, probably cheaper unless you have 19 or 21 inch one Judy: they were going to go antiquing in Mt Dora but was 92+ degrees so they just went on George: the wait is over. get connected to Comcast for just 24.95/month for two months. Pamela: I looked into that Bob but new would set me back about $300 and repairs only about $70.00 Pamela: now we know where all our warm weather went Judy: in Florida Pamela: figures rich-c: it's still a marginal call - depends on what warranty you get buying a used 15 Judy: how cold have you been? Pamela: down to 5C this morning, high today was 10C Pamela: Brrr Pamela: actually wore both parts of my jacket today - polar fleece lining, and windproof shell George: 74 F here Pamela: okay George, give it back BobS: shees!!!!! used 15 inch here is aonly about 35 bucks.......60+ CA Judy: we were in the 60's yesterday but was colder today and rainy rich-c: it's not teh price, it's the warranty BobS: brand new 17" for $100 us or 160 ca (?) Pamela: well, if it's going to cost big bucks to fix, we'll look into getting a new one and go larger -right now we have a 15" rich-c: $35 monitors last 35 vdays - that's why they're warranted for 30 Guy B.: Go for a 17". George: we are getting sever storms tomorrow Pamela: would love a 17" Pamela: Okay George, that you can keep BobS: gota a store like box lots...or something Guy B.: I have two 15" here as spares. BobS: we have ABC warehouse here and they run the 17" special a lot George: tornados? Judy: we may have storms tonight Pamela: well, I'm using Dad's spare at the moment Pamela: and boy, is it ever little Pamela: in Philly? Since when do they have tornados in PA? Guy B.: I even have a 14" from an old Packard Bell computer. rich-c: cheap used monitors are easy to find here - ones that will last are not Guy B.: They do Pam. George: all the time Pamela: PA isn't part of Tornado Alley, is it? BobS: not technically, but they can occur anywhere rich-c: maybe so, Guy, but no part of the east coast above Chesepeake Bay is frequent tornado country Pamela: strange but true Judy: we do not want any tornados George: we have our own little pocket Guy B.: Well, Chicago is in tornado alley. Have been for years. rich-c: yes, out there on the plains you are exposed Judy: we get them here every now and then rich-c: actually it runs through into Michigan and across there into Ontario near Windsor Pamela: well, I think it's time I went to bed - I'm starting to see one and a half of everyone Guy B.: The last tornado that came really close to me was back in 1988 in Plainfield, IL. Almost wiped the town off the map. Pamela: one's okay, two's okay - one and a half is weird BobS: BED!!!!!!!!! rich-c: we have a growing tornado track about 20 miles north of Toronto parallel to the lake shore Guy B.: Leaving so soon? rich-c: goodnight daughter Pamela: yes Bob, it's that place where one sleeps Guy B.: Bye Pam. Meeka: night Pam BobS: ok, be good then George: bye Pam Pamela: g'nite all - will see you next week. Dad, will call tomorrow for sure. rich-c: OK BobS: bye Pamela: zzzzzz. . .
Pamela left chat session Judy: bye Pam talk at you next week BobS: what's my weather for tomorrow guy??????? rich-c: have you noticed that tornados actually very rarely strike major cities? BobS: youn sent yucky weather for tofday BobS: probably scared of the city lights??????? rich-c: it's as if the heat island effect of a big downtown wards them off Guy B.: It rained earlier today here. But, I won't know until later. BobS: more likely something to do with the warmer area around major cities and what they do to the surrounding area George: they had one here rich-c: mind you, I do recall an exception some few years back that got Salt Lake City but good BobS: true, but that observation is kind of a tell tale statistic isn't it rich????? BobS: never wuite thought of it that way before George: i was in a F3 tornado BobS: have had 2 here though inthe last 50 yeras go right thru GR rich-c: I have never personally met a twister, and am in no hurry to BobS: me neither, Judy know!!!!! George: i thought i was going to meet my maker rich-c: tornados are notoriously hard to control Guy B.: I have seen one as a water spout and it was right over Lake Michigan back a few years ago. It never hit the water, but we ended up watching to see if it ever came ashore. It didn't. Judy: I heard one when I was babysitting a few years back Judy: I was in high school rich-c: yes, and driving out west I've seen dust devils which are mini-tornadoes Judy: it really does sound like a train George: the one we had did Judy: we saw a water spout over Lake Michigan too Judy: I was about a block away from where it hit, and my parents were in the school it took off the roof Guy B.: Actually, there were two of them that I saw formed. But, they never hit the water. It got about halfway. George: the electric lines came down sparking all over Judy: was quite a night Judy: it did hit Bob's Grandmothers house rich-c: anyway, folks, beginnning to show some wear around the edges Judy: than we had to go through the baricades for me to get back home rich-c: think I'd beeter start winding down for the night Meeka: ok, I am gonna go. I am having a had time concentrating tonight. see ya next week Guy B.: I might be going myself in a few minutes. Guy B.: Bye Meeka. Judy: you need to get a lot of sleep to get yourselves better rich-c: right - may try Saturday, if not, in a week. See you all BobS: well then, let's just break it up and meet nexrt Wed!!!! George: bye Meeka BobS: bye everyone Judy: bye Meeka talk to you later rich-c: goodnight all
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