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changed username to George< rich-c: hi George rich-c: having trouble typing tonight, I see George<: Hi Rich rich-c: using an unfamiliar keyboard? George<: no George<: just butter fingers rich-c: having a case of the miseries? George<: yes very rich-c: or as Bob says, farn dingers rich-c: know how you fell went shopping today rich-c: did no more than push a cart around the shop, but my hip is complaining hard rich-c: it just does not want me walking about, period
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: hello Guy, you're early Guy B.: Greetings!!! George<: Hi Guy rich-c: to what do we owe this honour? Guy B.: No more overtime until sometime late July or early August. rich-c: hallelujah rich-c: just so it doesn't mess up your Adamcon attendance Guy B.: I'll be there for the con. No doubt about that. rich-c: you'd betteer be - it's close enough that if you fink, we'll come and get you! Guy B.: Besides, I'm working on a Visual Basic program to run Dcopy from Windows. rich-c: maybe I'll understand what that's all about when we get together in Grand Rapids George<: ? rich-c: I will be bringing the laptop with the emulator install discs on it Guy B.: You will, it will be an executable file once the testing is done and I will show it there, plus it will be added to my website. rich-c: Guy is doing utilities for teh Adam emulator program, George rich-c: did you see the email from Geoff Oltmans today? George<: don't know the first thing about it Guy B.: I've done some programs that will setup most of the switches the utilities require. They have to use DOS, but I've done some to run from Windows. rich-c: well since tehre is a front end that lets the emulator run from Windows, that's desirable
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: hi daughter Pamela: Hallo George<: Hi Pam Guy B.: My gosh, Hi Pam. rich-c: you're on early, too Pamela: I'm on time for a change. See what happens when the TV season ends? Pamela: I'm actually coming to you from Kimberly's - keeping the kitty company and chatting at the same time rich-c: at this rate we should get a good crowd tonight rich-c: well say hello to Kimberly and the kitty from me Guy B.: Just need Dr. D, Ron and the Slopsema clan. Pamela: that would be nice - haven't seen Dr. D for a while Pamela: can't say hello to Kimberly till tomorrow - she's in China rich-c: I'm hoping Dr.D will be on soon, he was going to look at something for me Pamela: that's why I'm keeping the kitty company rich-c: China??? Pamela: Yes, didn't I tell you? rich-c: not that I recall, though I've had the odd foggy day of late Pamela: don't think your drugs are that good Dad - must'a been me rich-c: t'aint the drugs, it's what I take them for Pamela: Kimberly and her mom and Art and his Dad are in China taking a country wide tour rich-c: holy jumpin" - I'm sure I'd have remembered that rich-c: how long have they been gone? Pamela: I guess a friend of Mr. Pankratz's let him know about a tour that was being organized for their church group Pamela: Since last Thursday morning. 17 hour flight Pamela: yuck George<: ah lifestiles of the rich and fomous rich-c: double yuck George<: farn dingers Pamela: the original idea was brought up last year before Mrs. Pankratz died. rich-c: this has been some time in the planning, then Pamela: Mr. P wanted to go anyway so asked Art who said yes, then asked Kimberly and Jeanette if they'd like to tag along Pamela: yes, but the players are somewhat different Pamela: George, I know about farn dingers rich-c: right, are they doing any church business or is it strictly personal? Pamela: especially on an unfamiliar keyboard Pamela: strictly personal Pamela: Kimberly's only complaint is that she and Art don't have much time for just them rich-c: any idea of their itinerary? rich-c: you two swapping email about it? Pamela: yes, but it's upstairs. When I go back up and log on there, I'll let you know Pamela: surprisingly, yes - altho K hasn't been very forthcoming because her Mom is always present Pamela: she's been able to find an internet access at all their hotels so far rich-c: doesn't she know about writing the copy and saving it, to send later? Pamela: actually, she's been keeping a journal of the trip so will have all the gory details for me when she returns rich-c: I imagine the Chinese internet censors must be having fun with that Pamela: not much to sensor - they've been all very vague. I'm dying to find out all the dirt rich-c: figures Pamela: well, she has a constant chaperone in the form of her Mom - not much she can say Pamela: I'm impressed that she's been able to find English keyboards rich-c: oh, she didn't take her own computer then, just using local ones Pamela: can you imagine having to type everything in Chinese? rich-c: I gather from that she hasn't got a laptop yet Pamela: nope, strictly internet cafe stuff Pamela: no but even if she had, I doubt she would have taken one along - they're moving every other day or so and it would have been one more thing to lug around, and very little benefit rich-c: finding those must take considerable persistence - but then Kim is always resourceful George<: my keyboard says made thailand Pamela: yes, but it says it in English! rich-c: yes, probably just make the Chinese cops paranoid George<: yes the keys have the strange marks rich-c: wonder where Bob is tonight - he's overdue George<: thats what you get from AT&T Pamela: in my email this morning I reminded her of chat tonite and sent the address but I doubt she'll have time - it's 10:26 pm Thursday for her Pamela: sorry, 10:26 am Friday Pamela: since she's across the international date line rich-c: wow, wouldnt that be neat, a live report from China rich-c: that's even better than from Japan Pamela: wouldn't it just? we'll see, we may yet get lucky Pamela: Don't tell James that! George<: load the web cam Pamela: that's on my "to get" list, George rich-c: good suggestion, George Pamela: some day in the dim, distant future rich-c: well, webcams are relatively cheap - under $100 for a good one, some under $30 Pamela: I have other priorities at the moment Pamela: groceries come to mind rich-c: like Adamcon, which is only 8 weeks away Pamela: exactly rich-c: oh well, at least our dollar is improving a little Pamela: yes, and may it keep growing George<: now we have to find a way to send pictures in chat rooms rich-c: personally, I wouldn't send anything in a chat room, including my real name rich-c: excluding private chats like this, of course George<: i did Pamela: you know George, I thought about that once upon a time, and concluded it wouldn't be as much fun. rich-c: in a chat room, trust nothing and no one Pamela: much of what makes this so enjoyable is being able to do things like tease Bob about his spelling rich-c: use a phoney name and disposable email address Pamela: Hi, I'm Sarah, from Scotland (och)! rich-c: Oy vey, I'm Izzy from Haifa Pamela: that's too close to home, Dad George<: hi i'm george from the throne Pamela: TMI, George George<: where the crohns rules rich-c: George I, I presume Pamela: depends - what generation is the throne? George<: a one holer Pamela: ah, old style Pamela: must be George I rich-c: prince of the porcelain pony George<: yes Pamela: okay, where did Guy go? He's been waaaay too quiet Pamela: now how do those actions work again? rich-c: oh, he likes to wander off to other websites from time to time
(A strange smell wafts around the room) rich-c: now he's exiteed entirely Pamela: where'd he go? Pamela: George! rich-c: maybe Abby needed feeding or something George<: we must have scared him off Pamela: yes, but he doesn't usually sign off like that Pamela: no, Guy does'nt scare easily rich-c: exactly - he goes but he says goodbye first Pamela: darn keyboard Pamela: or is that dark neyboard rich-c: there are days when that would fit Pamela: two problems here - unfamiliar keyboard and no wrist rest rich-c: so George, how's the weather been down your way? George<: spotty t-storms rich-c: any forecast for the weekend yet? like Sunday? Pamela: by the way, Duchess says mew rich-c: meow George<: sunny and mild here for the weekend rich-c: great - there's a big race at Pocono Sunday rich-c: I'll be watching the Grand Prix of Canada but can tape the other Pamela: I think our weather is supposed to crap out again this weekend George<: everyting here should be clear by then Pamela: Hey Dad, football season starts at the end of the month Pamela: then what are you going to do? rich-c: it really had better not, although F1 runs in the rain and Jacques would likely show better Pamela: I said ours, not Montreal rich-c: oh, the football is Friday nights, no problem Pamela: I haven't checked Montreal Pamela: oh, well then . . . rich-c: well, Montreal is usually 12 hours or less behind us but same weather Pamela: Do you have any idea why the Argos and TigerCats are playing a pre season game in London? rich-c: racing is almost always Sundays except teh trans-oceanic events; they can be anytime rich-c: likely to test the market rich-c: the Dome may be in use by the Blue Jays, of course Pamela: they can't keep Ottawa going regularly, what makes them think London would be any better? rich-c: but as far as I know Ivor Wynne is usually available rich-c: seems there are indications of interest there, and also in Halifax area Pamela: George, I've forgotten - are you in Pittsburgh or Philly? George<: Philly George<: brb BR run Pamela: sorry, no short term memory these days rich-c: I'm getting old; what's your excuse? Pamela: well, I wonder where everyone disappeared to tonite? The first time I'm on early, and everyone else is late Pamela: not enough sleep Pamela: chronically
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changed username to Guy B. Pamela: Ah, he's back rich-c: no Slopsemas, Guy falls off and doesn't come back, no Dr. D., no Ron, no James Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. Netscape crashed and I had to reboot. Pamela: Guy is back Pamela: Yayyy, he's back! Pamela: we wondered when we didn't get your two cents on something Guy rich-c: ah, we were just discussing your absence - it was uncharacteristic Guy B.: I have an updated version of Netscape 4.79. Pamela: I am still on the ever popular IE Pamela: but I did upgrade. Kimberly hasn't yet rich-c: Netscape in infested with too much spyware for my tastes
(The lights sudddenly go out) Pamela: gee it's awful dark in here
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) rich-c: you can only go up to IE 5.5, Pam - 6.0 is XP only apparently Pamela: I know there's a can of Diet Coke out there but I can't see it because SOMEONE TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS! Pamela: ow, I just found that can Guy B.: Ckick Pamela: Thanks, Guy
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changed username to rich Pamela: what happened, Pop? Guy B.: Guess your Dad is coming back on. Oh, there he is. rich: mea culpa - did a dumb-dumb Pamela: what did you do? rich: was checking my IE version and hit close by mistake Pamela: oops rich: anyway, I do have IE 6 - it's Media Player 6 I can't have Pamela: I have IE 6 too - it took an hour and a half to load rich: and by the way if you don't have 6 I strongly recommend it Guy B.: Actually, there is a version 7. I use it at work sometimes. George<: oh i tried to come back too soon rich: which Windows does that run on? XP and up? Pamela: well all, I'm going to log off here and go upstairs - I need my wrist rest rich: or wait a minute - 7 is still in beta, isn't it? Guy B.: Media Player is up to version 7. It will run with Windows 98 on up. Pamela: I'll be back in about 15 minutes rich: OK Pam Pamela: BRB - ciao for now
Pamela left chat session Guy B.: We'll be here. rich: I tried to get the latest Media Player and was told it wouldn't run on 98SE Guy B.: I don't have it on mine. But, I do at work since we have Win2000. rich: clicked on it on the Microsoft site and they said it was for XP only rich: by the way, did you notice they've found another security hole in IE? George<: i hadit on my computre with 98se rich: had which, George? George<: windows media player 7.1 rich: how did you get it, and did it work? George<: it worked well then i upgraded to ME rich: there are those who say moving from 98SE to ME is not an upgrade rich: mostly, I gather, those who have done so George<: it takes away the dos rich: I gather teh DOS is still there, they just make it very hard to find and get at George<: ilike real dos rich: there was some talk about it in the Langalist a few issues ago Guy B.: I have Oil Change and it said Windows Media Player version 7 is available. Got get it Rich. rich: I tried to get it and Microsoft wouldn't give it to me George<: i can't put version 7 on this computer because its too slow rich: maybe its just part of their plan to stick it to users of older versions of Windows
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changed username to ron rich: hi ron, you made it ron: yeah , finally ron: Hello all rich: did you see the email from Geoff Oltmans this afternoon? Guy B.: Hi Ron George<: Hi Ron ron: falling victom to my own setup ron: Hi George, Guy ron: um, no...what did he say? ron: been away all day rich: briefly, his girlfriend has invited him to Victoria and he wants to know what it's like ron: aha..... can provide some detail rich: don't know his background, but it could be quite a shock to a boy from 'Bama rich: especially if he hasn't had much travel far from home ron: yeah rich: I replied to him and said you lived there and Bob had visited recently, mentioned my own last visit long ago ron: we're gentle ron: and so is Victoria rich: yes, but Wreck Beach ain't Gulf Shores, and 'Bama doesn't stand on edge ron: true rich: maybe we should warn him a Texas-type accent might not be as well received as usual right now ron: must have a look for the e-mail
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changed username to Pamela ron: Pamela! hi Pamela: Well, we gained one person at leat Pamela: least Pamela: hi, back rich: welcome back, daughter ron: did you go away? Guy B.: Welcome back, Pam! Pamela: I did - I was on at 9:00 ish for a change rich: it was on the list - oh, are you getting the mailing list stuff now? Pamela: went down to spend some quality time with Kimberly's kitty - logged on while I was down there ron: Actually, no. I haven't heard anything from the list in quite a while ron: wonder if my address has gone upward rich: OK, I'll forward it to you - which address do you prefer? ron: bytehacker@shaw.ca ron: the other is for commercial pitchers of various types Pamela: Ron, while I think of it - I checked with Rogers for Pirates of Silicon Valley -it's available on VHS, not on DVD. Rogers didn't have it in stock but any location can order it for you. Is there one near you? rich: the email has been despatched to you, Ron ron: Thanks Pam, that pretty much confirms what the producers were showing on their web site. And I can order it from there ron: ok tks Rich Pamela: Okay. If you find you can't get it, let me know and I'll special order it ron: ok rich: what is Pirates of Silicon Valley? I thought they were in Redmond, WA Pamela: What's really funny is after I got off last week I turned on the TV for a bit and lo and behold, the Biography was Noah Wyle Pamela: It's a TV movie Dad ron: was a made for TV movie Rich. Chronicles the early feuds between Gates and Jobs rich: about? rich: ah OK tnx Pamela: Wyle plays Gates ron: and the development of the computer industry Pamela: well, from the clip that I say Pamela: sorry, saw ron: I've actually rented it here once. ron: Not something mother was interested in, obviously ron: BRB Pamela: ok rich: would have thought power struggles and stuff might be pretty general rich: me. I settled for getting South Pacific from the library this week Pamela: dunno, I haven't seen it rich: would you believe it's the first time I saw it? Pamela: "Gonna wash that man right outta my hair . . ." Pamela: you're one up on me, I still haven't seen it rich: every song in it became a deserved hit - even the comedy and incidental tunes rich: I enjoy the classic musicals - told you I had Brigadoon a week or so back ron: That's better Pamela: are you going to venture into movies made in the last two decades eventually? ron: To be effective, glasses must be cleaned now and then Pamela: rumour has it Pamela: couldn't prove it by the Clee family ron: :) rich: great heavens, Ron, when did you join our four-eyed clan? Pamela: you had glasses last year, didn't you? ron: years ago ron: I have work glasses since 1985 rich: I can't recall ever seeing you wear them ron: worn Pamela: I thought so - black frames, oblong, right? George<: pills pills pills and take some more pills ron: something like that, yes rich: know the feeling, George - I rattle when I walk
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changed username to james Pamela: ah here comes someone - James! james: good morning! rich: hello james and good morning ron: George, you are giving financial comfort to Upjohn, Roach, Ciba Geigy, etc Pamela: James, is it Thursday or Friday there? james: not sure! sec.. ron: Jame !! james: thursday it is. james: hey ron. long time. how's the wet coast? Pamela: and you're across the international date line, right? rich: Kimberly is over next door at the moment, in China james: last i checked, yup ron: cold as helll froze over my son Guy B.: Holy Cow, James long time, no see. How have you been? rich: we were wondering if she might join us rich: she has proven adept at finding internet cafes George<: doctor gave me more pills to take and trippled my dose of darvocet james: visiting the communist regime is she? what's she doing there? james: very, very busy. Pamela: so it's 11:22 a.m. for her on Thursday Pamela: Church group of her boyfriend's organized a tour Pamela: I am so confused james: for her it's probably anywhere from 8:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. china has at least two timezones, maybe three. rich: just our usual three conversations going at once Pamela: she said thirteen hours ahead of Toronto Pamela: oh, I was going ot look for the itinerary - BRB ron: what I saw above was "A group of her boyfriends organized a tour" ron: rotfl james: weird, because we're 13 hours ahead of toronto and usually an hour ahead of the east coast of china. could be wrong about that though. ron: but that's not what was saiid james: lol. group of boyfriends. it's a reverse harem rich: maybe the Chinese don't believe in Daylight time, or something james: we don't use daylight savings time. maybe they do. not sure. james: so how is everyone? ron: no thinner James james: lol George<: a juicy t-storm is coming through ron: :< rich: I've had a rough time - pneumonia, and my left leg giving out from (arthritis?) james: i have about 75 students at my school now, have been teaching computers and just upgraded all the machines in the classroom. james: sorry to hear that rich. be careful with the pneumonia. don't want to fool around with that. ron: sounds like you're movin ahead James rich: depending on how far you upgraded, that could be done quite economically if your market is like our james: i like to think so but there are days i wonder. case keeps me pretty busy too rich: that's what I found out, James james: lol. i had the innards sent from canada and bought the heavy stuff like drives and cases and monitors here. rich: I'm now a non-smoker - not anything the doctor said, lungs just went on strike james: think i worked it out to about $3500 for 5 machines. p3-1000 Pamela: okay, I saw that - I should have said her boyfriend's fathers church group - no more howling rich: yeah, if you got decent motherboards and some minor goodies, with shipping, that sounds about right james: didn't remember you smoking when we visited toronto. Pamela: He's smoked for 55 years James Pamela: where do you think I got it from? rich: Katerina Pamela: I am very proud of him - it's not easy ron: that's right james: yeah. asus and intel mobos. the slowest machine is a p3-866. all have 256mb ram, sound cards etc. it's nice because now i can teach properly *and* rich: It is very easy to stop something your body refuses to do Pamela: No I didn't get it from CT, she's always been a non smoker Guy B.: We all should be proud of Rich. It must have been tough for him, but he did it. rich: it's just that I keep getting this urge to climb a tower with a rifle... james: i can put new software for learning english and multimedia files etc. working on building up my software library now. Pamela: and people wonder why I haven't been around the house much lately . . . james: lol. rich. i've never smoked but i've had friends who have kicked some nasty stuff like cocaine but couldn't quit smoking. ron: that will pass Rich james: so you're doing well. Pamela: of course, now Mom will be nagging me to quit too Pamela: he was my buffer rich: well, after going cold turkey a couple of weeks I cheated and got some patches Guy B.: Good idea Pamela: at Mother's insistence
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changed username to BobS rich: they cost me three times as much per week as cigarettes ron: There Mr. S. BobS: howdy mates Guy B.: There he is. The man of the hour. Hi Bob james: well no need to torture yourself rich, i don't think getting patches is cheating. 55 years is a long time chemical dependency. might do more harm than good not getting them. rich: time you got here, Slopsema ron: howdeeeeee Pamela: Bob, how is it that for once I'm on time and now you're late? rich: where you been, man? George<: Hi Bob BobS: hi ALL james: hi bob BobS: well..........Judy's folks birthday and 55th anniversary party WITH cake BobS: long time a no see james! Pamela: Okay Dad - itinerary goes like this. Toronto to Detroit to Shanghai. rich: oh well, for cake I guess you're forgiven Guy B.: Wow. That's a long time. BobS: how's Miyuki and the wee one????? ron: For that you have permission (and support) to be late rich: there's only so much temptation avman can resist Pamela: Shanghai to Beijing Pamela: send cake! james: doing well. she went back to work for a few hours in the morning this month. ron: Send the cake west first james: the wee one is growing and doing well. Pamela: Beijing to Xian. Xian to Guilin. That's tomorrow. james: he's 2 months now BobS: WORK?!?!?!?!? What a ungly word!!!!! rich: you got to email each of us a slice, Bob Pamela: Dibs - I called it first! ron: W O R K is a 4 letter word james: i like work. i think i'd be bored without my job BobS: ok.......cake was marbel with white frosting and colored flowers (more frosting.....yum) with lemon in between the layers Pamela: Guilin to Hong Kong. Hong Kong home to Toronto with a brief stop in Japan. BobS: like that??????? Pamela: mmmm, frosting BobS: who's goin travelin???????? ron: oh stop!!! james: she's likely stopping through osaka rich: that's a busy trip - she'll be exhausted when she gets back Pamela: Kimberly is in China at the moment with her boyfriend, her Mom and his Dad ron: I have reserved a device with wings for August 8 Pamela: Yup and the jet lag is gonna kill her james: lol BobS: cool!!!!! Pamela: and where is the device taking you? rich: hope she has a day or two extra before she goes back to work BobS: hopefully EARLY in the day ron: it is also supposed to return here about a week later Guy B.: Bob, will be sending my last payment to you this weekend. Also, I'm working on my presentation for the con. Going to setup Dcopy to run from Windows using Visual Basic. Pamela: yes, two I believe rich: where are you going Aug. 8th, Pam? Pamela: sorry, duh ron: If the Good Lord permits Bob, I shall arrive at 6 p.m. give or take james: i think it's ron that's going somewhere on aug 8 james: no? BobS: good Guy. will pencil you in for a session!!!!! Pamela: we're all with the exception of the Slopsemas, going somewhere Aug. 8th rich: we're all going to Grand Rapids on Aug. 8th Guy B.: Program is 50% done. james: oh yeah. have fun all you in north america BobS: and Ronald me boy...........session on the proram to make Xmas disks.........and reconstructing a directory after crash landing your hd??????? Pamela: James, don't say you'renot coming! : ) ron: so it is written, so let it be done Pamela: gee, do hd's bounce? rich: I just want to get into the EOS part of my hard disc Guy B.: James, if you can't come. Can we count on you for the online chat? BobS: for ONE, I WANT to learn the steps for the program manager thingy, it looks neat, but my delving is shortcoming with the directions ondisk BobS: and so it shall be Richard,. BRING it along what ever it is rich: Bob, could we have an English translation of that lst bit? Pamela: I second that james: well it's going to be a little hard for me to get to grand rapids but i can try to be online. BobS: wht night is b4est for you to get on james.......FRI or SAT???????? james: sec. Pamela: and you thought you had fimble ningers, George ron: the ADAMcon International World wide chat BobS: Richard, can't remember the name of Chris Braymens manager program.......... rich: and by that he means your time, we'll subtract 12 hours BobS: fimble kingers????????? WHO???????? Pamela: oh, no one ron: Information Manager Bob George<: anything goes? Pamela: just about Pamela: as you can see james: when you say night, what time zone are we talking? Guy B.: AdamDos BobS: THAAT"S IT Pamela: uh oh BobS: ah, ron you DO have a way with words ron: Whatever the clocks say in Grand Rapids Michigan Guy B.: I have it. james: okay, so eastern, right? Pamela: right ron: ya BobS: same time as this chat only on FRI or SAT night, you call it rich: yes, even if just barely james: so sat or sun morning here. Pamela: right BobS: you call which night MI time james and we sill DO IT james: sunday morning is a possibility. saturday i teach 11-9 (no break) so that's no go. Guy B.: Let's make it Saturday. For James that would be Sunday for him. ron: that fits BobS: ok SAT night here for chat right???????? Pamela: seems to me that's when we did it last year BobS: makes it sun AM for james Pamela: sounds right rich: sounbds like a plan Guy B.: Then it's agreed? Pamela: agreed james: sun am around 11 is doable. i'll likely not be up any earlier than that. ron: what's this about greed? james: if someone could possibly e-mail me a reminder a couple days beforehand, it would be most appreciated. Pamela: well, something's a greed Guy B.: That's Agree ron: what happened to lust, gluttony, envy , pride and sloth? rich: sun 11 in Japan, but you're not on Daylight - so what's that here? Pamela: they didn't agree ron: oh
(Guy B. hugs Pamela) Pamela: I want that in person Guy - hold that thought james: we're 13 hours ahead of you now, instead of the 14 that we're ahead in the winter Guy B.: Ok, you got it. rich: so 11 am Sun is our 10 pm Sat james: yup. james: is that okay for people over there? it's not too late? ron: at an ADAMCON? BobS: Richard...........request from the POWERS THAT BE (Judy)........will you give opening address.........for ADAMCON???????? Pamela: it'll take us that long to get organized after dinner anyway ron: ya gotta be kidding rich: james, you've never made an Adamcon so don't understand ron: there's no such thing as too late BobS: She sayas, "who knew we would be here for # 14"...... George<: oh no power outtages on the way rich: the only time we're non-functional is around breakfast Pamela: go to battery backup, George Pamela: we're not exactly morning people ron: sounds like Cleveland's getting it George james: i was thinking too, doesn't adamcon $0F co-incide with adam's 20th anniversary. BobS: speak for your own self little girl rich: it may be awfully short, Bob, and I'll need a podium to lean on George<: i just have AC BobS: we'll let ya sit on a chair!!!!!! Pamela: just don't expect much before 10:00 am Bob BobS: Judy says......podium is fine they have one james: 1983-2003, right? BobS: yes james but only 14 ADAMCONS james: isn't this year #14? Pamela: maybe I'll have the new camera sorted out by then ron: must be James.... never even thought of that BobS: BUT ADAM is really 20 yers old......almost old enough to get a drink here rich: when you come down to it, I don't think 14 Adamcons is an ONLY Guy B.: Ok, folks. Somehow I came last Saturday and no one was there. So, I'll try to see if anyone is there, otherwise see you all next week. james: so #15, 0F would coincide with the 20th. Pamela: okay Guy. Goodnite ron: ADAMCON 01 was when, 1989? ron: Nite Guy Guy B.: Yep BobS: be good Guy james: not sure. too bad i've never made it to any of them. Guy B.: Ok, see you all later. rich: Guy, Dr. D. and I were on for 45 minutes Sat - but see you this weekend
Guy B. left chat session james: but adam was released for sale in 1983, is that right? BobS: YES, Ron.........wanted to get there, but $$$$ and time restraints........ BobS: Christmas time 1983 I think.....but most of those were not working good and'or reliable ron: was the computer itself actually released in 1983? or was it '84... 1984 is when i got mine rich: think it was 84 when they were jobbed off and everyone got them james: yeah, the first batch was a bum lot but i think a couple of them worked though they were few and far between. ron: ok..... by the time I got mine, they had it right james: wouldn't want to have been a toys 'r us employee that year ron: and that was Christmas 1984 rich: yes, the revision 80s were ok but by then it was too late BobS: the early horror stories were taht NONE worked or blew up shortly after plug in james: so a rocky start. but can we say 1983? BobS: OH, i bought some stuff the other day and got aR57 BobS: what are the bugs???????? rich: I did hear it claimed that for every one that went out the door two came back Pamela: double or nothing - I love it rich: ask Dr. D., that's how he learned about ADams, by coping with them Pamela: speaking of whom, where has he been? rich: he had a 57 that wouldn't work - he dissected it till it did james: interesting. james: did he say what it was? BobS: was it the R57 per se????? or the early sloppy boards and parts???? Pamela: dissection without formaldehyde - ya gotta love it rich: no, but he had to learn a lot about assembly language and electronics BobS: R57 should have just been basically the programming on the ship rich: I gather there were bugs in the firmware - OS and SW BobS: chip rich: but there could have been defective manufacture, too BobS: gotta get back to the R57 and run it thru it's paces once BobS: in my "free" time of course rich: they even used the solder bath method of wiring Pamela: (blue smoke fills the Slopsema household) ron: free time? BobS: NO LIE pam Pamela: blue smoke = bad BobS: Ron, ya know, I NEED to retire so I can get some free time rich: Bob works, he's got free time, it's not like being retired George<: blue screen ron: doesn't work Bob Pamela: Bob, it's a myth designed to lure you in BobS: the closer I get to the golden age, the shorter the fre time gets Pamela: sorta like those urban legends Pamela: everyone's heard about it - no one has ever experienced it BobS: and once you are lured in, they srop the hammer and POW, you are done???????? Pamela: exactly ron: Golden Age= everything hurts. Whatever doesn't hurt doesn't work BobS: Judy says thanks, she now knows what to look forward too Ron Pamela: I heard that one too ron: sorry rich: don't let her kid you, she's heard it enough from the old man BobS: what time ya get in Grand Rapdis Ron????????? ron: sec... got the sked here somewhere Pamela: didn't you say 6:00? rich: what's your routing from YVR? BobS: lessee............6pm - 3 hours = 3pm his time........not too bad for fly itme then ron: 6:20 p.m. Aug 8 rich: he didn't say what time he was leaving the island, Bob Pamela: all these time zones are mighty confusing BobS: how's about we ALL meet you??????????? ron: leaving Grand Rapids Aug 14 at 2 pm james: okay, i need to get going. time for lunch. Pamela: that would be some welcome party ron: everything starts from here at 6;30 a.m BobS: bee good James!!!!!! and have FUN rich: see you james, glad you could come by Pamela: good nite James, hugs to all james: i'll try to be on again next week. talk to you all again soon. ron: that would be great Bob if it doesn't interrupt anything critical George<: time for Archie Bunker rich: not even overnighting in Vancouver? George<: ron: niters James BobS: Ron did you see Geoff Oltmans inquiry about whether he should come to Victoria on the island
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changed username to George rich: no, just a very long buffer delay, Ron BobS: you were thn only one to get dumped Ron, unless you left and retried ron-?: thought I might have turned into a mirror image ron-?: left and retried BobS: only 1 ron here rich: it looked like we were frozen but with patience all the stuff came up ron-?: that's a good thing Pamela: well I was dumped - nothing went through and I wasn't getting any new feeds BobS: iI figured james threw us out rich: yes, but that's the buffer dealy ron-?: rich understands these thing rich: just means the time slice we were getting got really small BobS: but you didn't disappear from the list and when it came bak online only Ron was gone George: is someone hacking us? rich: both Pamela and Ron logged off and on again Pamela: my little connection icon was saying the same thing over and over - that usually means I've been dumped BobS: them darn hackers!!!!!!! ron-?: nah George, just the press of traffic rich: could be, George, but it's unlikely rich: Dale's computer is very well defended Pamela: with everything but real walls ron-?: Bob, do you know if Doug still has any of those leaseback lap thingies? BobS: all gone, BUT we can prolly get some more Pamela: what are you talking about? ron-?: well, let me think on it BobS: pricing is about the same $250US or like 4450 CA BobS: 450 rich: Bob and Doug trade in used computers ron-?: what were they? P166's? Pamela: oh, laptops - not thingys at all BobS: yes ron-?: right. BobS: with cdrom, floppy, 32 megs ram......1.2gig HD rich: what breed? Pamela: I really have to brush up my vocab BobS: Toshiba ron-?: Out here, that price looks good Pamela: note to self: thingy = laptop ron-?: same thing here would retail for around $700 ron-?: CDN rich: in Toronto, it isn't good, but 166s have mostly vanished - now it's 233/266 or higher ron-?: All's I want really is something I can run the emulator on ron-?: and do the net thing without carrying a carload of equipment rich: I can tell you that my Dell 166MMX will do that ron-?: sure. a 166 would have no problem Pamela: are any of those tHINKPADS? BobS: emulator will sork with 486, BUT to run the net for "away from home" you will need a pentium and might as well be at least a 166 ron-?: exactly rich: mine has 64 RAM, 2.1 gig, 33.6 modem, was about $500 taxes included BobS: ibm's are Thinkpads dear BobS: and yes they will do the saME THING Pamela: I know - that's what I meant - are any of those available Thinkpads? Pamela: or could they be? BobS: on Ebay yes, just bought one for my daughters friend rich: no, the ones coming off lease now seem to all be Toshibas or Dells BobS: he wante BOTH cdrom and floppy onboard, which certain thinkpad models have rich: so does my Dell ron-?: yeah, would prolly be better for ADAM related transfers Pamela: I've worked on a Thinkpad and really liked it - will have to try Dad's and see how I feel about it rich: haven';t checked to see if the floppy drive will support 720K ron-?: some are better at that than others Pamela: I know. any idea what Dr. D has? BobS: I hsvent checked either rich: I found the trackball OK, but when I put a game on for Frances needed a mouse - since I have a USB port, no problem ron-?: now tell me ron-?: are all E-Bay transactions in uS Dollars? ron-?: or is there a canadian version? rich: unless you're on eBay.ca, yes rich: some listings are in pounds sterling, from the UK ron-?: I'm a little gunshy after the $70 Atari mouse Pamela: ouch rich: the WHAT? ron-?: my $30 bid cost me that by the time it came to the front door ron-?: of course that was $30. US Pamela: double ouch ron-?: followed by Bid Pay, followed by Great Scary Tax rich: but that's about $47 CDN, then you'd have postage (outrageous these days) and P.O. handling fee for GST ron-?: yup.... $70 George: i have a AMIGA/ATARI mouse rich: want to sell it, George? ron-?: the insane part of it was that within a week of that critter showing up, I was given one locally Pamela: check and see if it's made of gold, George rich: and are you sure it works on an Amiga? their mice are unique BobS: for cryin out loud ron-?: my luch eh? ron-?: luck Pamela: typical rich: Frances wants a backup mouse for her Amiga 3000 ron-?: If I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck at all Pamela: anyway all, the room's starting to spin, time I went to bed George: it works on amiga 500 ron-?: yes- you do that girl rich: know the feeling - have a good sleep, Pamela ron-?: sleep well Pamela: thanks. see you next week? ron-?: the Good Lord Willin rich: unless you come by to try the laptop earlier George: nite Pam Pamela: which I may do over the weekend Dad - will let you know rich: 10-4 Pamela: sweet dreams everyone - goodnight ron-?: :) BobS: see ya late rPamela
Pamela left chat session rich: Bob, did you see Geoff Oltmans' posting to the mailing list today? BobS: yes, asked Ron if HE saw it, but I think that was about the time of the buffer problem BobS: I replied and told him to GO rich: I sent a copy to Ron, but you should reply too with a tourist viewpoint ron-?: No, I didn't get it out here....think I might be off the ADAM list, because I haven't seen anything for a while rich: I sent it to you a few minutes ago, Ron BobS: yes Ronald. you DId change the email address of late right????? rich: and yes you and everyone who was on home.com is off the list - Dale hasn't updated it for ages BobS: hmmmmm....wonder if I can automatically forward mail ron-?: yeah, went to @shaw instead of @home rich: or talk Dale into letting Dr. D. or someone administer the list - Rich is willing ron-?: Ok Rich, I have your relay from Geoff, I'll answer it rich: OK, we'll encourage him ron-?: that's probably it then ron-?: If he's coming to Victoria, I'd like to meet him. Could drive down] rich: somehow I have the feeling this chat is going to crash out soon BobS: Ronk what is your current em,ail address??????? ron-?: bytehacker@shaw.ca rich: we have storms in the area and the lights have flickered a couple of times ron-?: or bytehacker@mac.com ron-?: latter is more for commercial junk BobS: ok will try to forward all adamlist messages your way ron-?: thaks Bob. Until we get Dale's list straightened out rich: I think it's time I closed down - any of you make it Saturday? ron-?: Heading to Nanaimo Sat afternoon Rich, but I'm gonna put a big note up here for myself George: i'll try for Sat. ron-?: always forget the noon chat, and I'm usually here ron-?: no excuses rich: OK, hope to see you all then rich: I'm going to fold now - goodnight all ron-?: ok guys..... I shall bid you all a fond g'nite George: nite all ron-?: stay well BobS: maybve Sat BobS: try......... rich: bye
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