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changed username to FreddyMaiden rich-c: hi there Fred FreddyMaiden: Hi Rich rich-c: comment ca va? FreddyMaiden: tres bien et vous? rich-c: tres bien aussi, merci FreddyMaiden: sorry brb FreddyMaiden: wifey FreddyMaiden: she went for a dip so I had to get her a towell rich-c: right - it can be a problem rich-c: how is Meganne doing? FreddyMaiden: great!! when shes not hungry rich-c: she's supposed to be hungry - all the time - that's how she grows FreddyMaiden: haha yes indeed shes growing alright rich-c: I recognize it can be more than a little hard on Sylvie FreddyMaiden: absolutely
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: I am anxiously waiting for Pamela to come on
changed username to judy rich-c: hi judy FreddyMaiden: Hi Judy rich-c: where's the old man? judy: hi, rich and freddy FreddyMaiden: has pamela done someting special? judy: working on his email rich-c: just mentioning, I'm anxiously awaiting Pamela rich-c: she borrowed a laptop from work to take to Adamcon rich-c: and now she is trying to configure the modem to use our ISP FreddyMaiden: ISP?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: we wre doing a bit over the phone but I had to break off before it could be tested
changed username to BobS rich-c: Internet Service Provider, Fred BobS: YO brudders BobS: an me bride rich-c: hello Bob, got the mail finished I gather FreddyMaiden: tks FreddyMaiden: Hi Bob rich-c: who do you use as your ISP, Fred? judy: no, now he is in the basement, got a new adamite coming to convention
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changed username to George rich-c: they may not be your best choice rich-c: hi George judy: hi, George rich-c: but they're at least not as bad as AOL FreddyMaiden: Want to connect to cable some time... George: Hi Everyone FreddyMaiden: Hi George rich-c: not convinced you would find cable worth teh cost, which is pretty horrendoes FreddyMaiden: really? then what is suggested Rich? George: i have a belly ache rich-c: stay with your dialup, make sure you are getting the full 56K out of it FreddyMaiden: Hi speed rich-c: unless you spend half your life downloading files, it should be adequate rich-c: I'm assuming you do have a 56K modem FreddyMaiden: yes sir George: i only get 46k with my dialup rich-c: well, you're on AOL and they are inefficient, George rich-c: they put a lot of overhead into your linkages FreddyMaiden: I have a celeron 56k lying around. rich-c: remember also that no one gets a true 56K, the phone lines won't take it George: other dialups average the same here rich-c: how do you know your dialup speed, George? George: it says the connectio speed when i sign on rich-c: reminds me, Fred, what kind of computer are you using?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: you mean AOL tells you teh speed, is that it?
changed username to james FreddyMaiden: Compaq 6000series BobS: heck I only can get about 34 to possibly 38k from here rich-c: good morning james George: yes FreddyMaiden: Hi James james: morning. wouldn't go so far as to say it's good. George: Hi James BobS: JAPAN!!!!!! Welcome to the western hemisphere rich-c: oh dear, Miyuki giving you a hard time again? BobS: OOPS james: no james: nothing like that. BobS: durn kids, eh???????? rich-c: the kids, then? another earthquake? james: i'm just tired of living in the middle of a construction zone. driving me frickin nuts. FreddyMaiden: The sun may rise in the east but it sets in the west...taken from Shanghai noon rich-c: oh, are you putting an addition on the school or something? james: no, it's not my construction. they're building all around the house in what used to be rice fields. we're literally surrounded by bulldozers and steamshovels on all sides. james: and i'm at about my wits end. rich-c: someone developing a subdivision around you? james: yeah, this town-government that's run by slack-jawed inbred idiots. rich-c: oh well, think of all the customers who will be moving in - and meanwhile, get a set of noise-cancelling earphones FreddyMaiden: Or a mega sound system...
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changed username to Pamela james: we'll see. right now they're just getting the land ready. they're going to build and sell houses as people buy. quite frankly i'll be surprised if anyone does.
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moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: hi Pam get the laptop working?
changed username to Meeka Pamela: nope, I gave up for the time being Pamela: Hi, everyone rich-c: hello Meeka FreddyMaiden: oops Meeka: Hello Everyone FreddyMaiden: Hi Meekaù George: Hi Pam, Meeka FreddyMaiden: darn french keboard Pamela: Hi, James - nice to see you james: they seemed to have stopped for a bit. i'm going to grab a quick nap while i can. james: hi pam
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela: don't tell me your leaving!
changed username to BobS rich-c: Pam, you should have used teh Wizard, only clicked "I want to do it manually" on the first screen Pamela: now you tell me BobS: PAM ya can't leave!!!!! Pamela: I'll try again later Pamela: I'm not leaving Bob Pamela: ouch my wrists hurt rich-c: OK james dont forget the Adamcon specail chat Aug. 10th james: aug 10th.. hmm teaching all day. i'll see what i can do but i likely won't be able to make it. what time is it? BobS: ya mon Aug 10th Sat here.......this time frame\ Pamela: 9:00 rich-c: well, I didn't know till I rechecked it myself later james: pm? Pamela: yup BobS: YES BobS: our PM......... rich-c: yes, pm - will be tough for you, I guess George: AH CHOO! james: okay so sunday morning at 10 a.m. i give myself 50% odds then. Pamela: bless you George BobS: Sat Augt 10 9PM EST rich-c: gesundheit, George
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changed username to Judy BobS: got an email form Tom Ozretich tonight richard......came to AC09 for a couple days Pamela: yay, Judy made it james: okay. i will see you all again shortly after my nap. rich-c: right Bob, he's the guy from SF Bay area Judy: yes, I am back
james left chat session Pamela: sleep well FreddyMaiden: CYA JAMES BobS: he was into the ADAM scene years ago.........was in Battle Creek MI 5 years ago and still there (or back) Meeka: hello Mom BobS: bye james Judy: hi, dear Pamela: Bob, will we have internet access in our rooms at the hotel? Judy: went to the hotel and GR brewing today BobS: but of course my dear, just unplug the phone and plug it inot your laptop rich-c: Battle Creek is practically next door - trust you talked him into coming? BobS: maybe evne have an extra port on the phone BobS: he wants to come in on Fri am Pamela: cool, now I just have to figure out how to set the laptop up rich-c: I've already told her to download the slingshot software Pamela: tell me again closer to the time Dad so I don't forget BobS: AND if ya don't have a local internet provider, I can set it up on my local account I think BobS: dad can do it Pam or we can do it here Judy: Pam it is next week rich-c: our ISP is strictly Toronto, but slingshot covers all the US Judy: that is quite close Pamela: Judy, I'm doing well if I remember from day to day Pamela: too many mice in the maze BobS: download the software Pamela Judy: tell me about it Pamela: How did the wedding go? rich-c: before I forget, Pam, need any taping this week? Pamela: will check - R is indisposed at the moment - check back with me in about 10 minutes BobS: wedding??????? WHAT wedding???????? rich-c: this is known as protective amnesia... Pamela: I trust that was sarcasm, Bob Judy: I worked on my quilt today and it has been so long that I did everything wrong BobS: huh??????? BobS: will show ya the pics when ya get here!!!!! Pamela: you're right Dad, protective amnesia rich-c: give him a slap upside the head, Judy, to bring him back to the real world Meeka: you poor thing mom Pamela: Can't wait to see them. So, you pulled it off? BobS: OUCH Judy: great, after all the uproar BobS: had to use a shotgun, but yes Pamela: a white one, I trust rich-c: the traditional white shotgun, of course? Judy: she almost called it off on Friday Pamela: what???? BobS: ya sure mon Judy: you have to know Mandy, that explains all Pamela: okay Pamela: she wouldn't be the first bride with cold feet rich-c: and she stuck with it after you let go of her throat? Judy: but it did turn out really great FreddyMaiden: now with wet ones George: whats that stange clicking sound? Pamela: just as long as your brain don't freeze you're okay Judy: that is true, but it had something to do with his lawsuit, real mess rich-c: do we want to know about that? Judy: that is about it, Rich rich-c: I'm sure we'll get an earfull at the 'con, when you've calmed down Pamela: I want all the details when we see you Judy: probably not, he had a work accident, trying to get paid for it Judy: that would be easier rich-c: you do have Workem Judy: will show the pictures at that time also George: i'm getting messy rich-c: you do have Workmen's Compensation in the US, don't you? BobS: workers compensation insurance Pamela: you mean WC Dad? Judy: yes, we do Pamela: yes, the employer should carry it FreddyMaiden: hopefully neglagence isnt proven rich-c: in the US you never know - they're kind of behind the times Pamela: but it's a policy like any other insurance policy Judy: be nice, Rich BobS: hey Richard, still got ADAM's shipped to US for $100????????? rich-c: yep, in fact had an inquiry from Florida couple of days ago Pamela: Judy, I told Kimberly about the 2.5 week wedding - she was amazed Pamela: says she's going to need a year to plan hers BobS: from Alan Ricotta perhaps?????? George: illegal operation rich-c: yes, but Kimberly is organized - she will do it right, with no cold feet Pamela: after chasing him for 7 years, she'd better NOT get cold feet rich-c: that's right, Bob, did you send him? BobS: think that was the guys name Judy: it can be done, was all ready by 11 am Sat BobS: nope just told him yes have ADAM's for $100 shipped to his door BobS: figured I Pamela: I shudder to think Judy: the wedding wasn't until 4 BobS: i would have you send him one.......
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changed username to Guy B. Judy: we had to keep it simple Pamela: Hi, Guy BobS: hi Guy Pamela: simple is best rich-c: yes, some of them are weirdly paranoid when it comes to dealing with Canada Judy: hi, Guy Guy B.: Greetings!!!, Finally here. rich-c: overtime again, Guy? BobS: is it the REAL Guy Cousineau ??????????? a frenchman???????? FreddyMaiden: HiGUy Meeka: hello Guy rich-c: naw, more an Itqalian from Chicago Pamela: non, Ces't Guy Bona - an italian BobS: a pizza slinger?????????? Guy B.: Yes, even going in this Saturday before I start my vacation next week. BobS: Guy?????????? George: Hi Guy rich-c: besides, Guy C. isn't French, he's a quebecois Pamela: BRB, gotta talk to R for a minute rich-c: Freddy, hope you're still with us - been a lot of crosstalk of late FreddyMaiden: Sure am tks fr asking Guy B.: I guess everyone heard the news on PJ? rich-c: a Compaq 6000 - what processor does that have? BobS: HEY, Freddie is multitasking with an ADAM here FreddyMaiden: Nope FreddyMaiden: dont have those access. rich-c: told those concerned, but not generally yet, Guy Guy B.: I knew you wouldn't Fred. You not coming to the con. Guy B.: Not yet, eh! FreddyMaiden: Really wish I could Guy really!!!! rich-c: we wish so too, Fred - you'd make a very welcome participant BobS: BUT Fred is going to make the internet chat right here on Sat the 10th of Aug @ 9PM FreddyMaiden: Intel Rich rich-c: Pentium? which one? FreddyMaiden: You bet Bob FreddyMaiden: 4 Rich rich-c: the ral hot rod then - what speed? Guy B.: Bob, got a something I think all might be interested in. Are you ready? FreddyMaiden: 2000 believe BobS: SURE rich-c: that's a bit faster than my Athlon 1600 rich-c: Guy, go ahead FreddyMaiden: Just bought it quite recent and found your chat thanks to it George: faster than my k6 500 Guy B.: Ok, I have an old Mac Performa here at my place and I'm was thinking about bringing it up to the con and donate as a grand door prize. It has the monitor and some software. rich-c: what did you have previously, Fred? FreddyMaiden: MICRO PC/XT took pic of it and my Adam will send to you once downlded. BobS: bring it Guy, we can 'fix' it so that Ron wins it and he can haul it to Vancouver Island rich-c: wow, you sure made one big jump - running Windows XP, I suppose? FreddyMaiden: Yes FreddyMaiden: it was about time Pamela: That's cruel, Bob Guy B.: I'll test it out here before I bring it up to be sure it works. Either Ron or Dr. D. would be the one's interested in it. rich-c: I'm still happily perking along on Win98SE Pamela: me too Guy B.: Who's got WinXP? George: me too FreddyMaiden: do you like it? FreddyMaiden: Ido Guy George: i mean 98se Meeka: Doug runs that on his desktop and laptopo Guy rich-c: yes, and I don't have to ask Bill Gates permission to install a new CD-R or such Guy B.: I'm running Win98SE on my Athlon. Guy B.: You Fred. Any problems? FreddyMaiden: Cant stop laughing Pamela: we're still running 98SE on our computers at work FreddyMaiden: NOPE FreddyMaiden: Work is Win98 aswell BobS: isntead of stuck in the 50's, I am stuck in the 95's........windows that is........ Pamela: actually no, we're not - I take that back rich-c: I don't want anything to do with that activation copde business rich-c: maybe it's because I'm too expert at crashing computers and having to re-install Pamela: we're running the network version Guy B.: Using Win2000 at work. Fred, you are my guinea pig to test out my new project to see if it runs on WinXP. It's 90% done and it will be tested with Win95, 98 and ME. FreddyMaiden: Work makes practice....no contrary rich-c: Fred: translation of Guy: YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
moved to room Meeting Place FreddyMaiden: what???? BobS: so IF i were you fred............HIDE your computers!!!!!!!!
changed username to Ron Pamela: Hi Ron BobS: must be the western contingent BobS: hiya ronald!!!!!!! Ron: Evening George: hi Ron FreddyMaiden: Hi Ron Judy: hi, Ron BobS: one week and counting!!!!! Meeka: hello Ron rich-c: greetings, Ron Guy B.: That's right Freddy. Since none of us have WinXP and the program I'm doing is using an older version of Visual Basic. You get to test it out on your copy of WinXP. Guy B.: Hi Ron. George: here we go Ron: and how is all rich-c: as in, Fred, you'll be sorry BobS: 'all' is finre BobS: fine
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changed username to Jeff Mitchell Judy: hi, Jeff BobS: well glory BE Guy B.: Hi Jeff, Welcome. rich-c: hey Jeff, haven't seen you for ages - welcome aboard BobS: Jeff, me boy Ron: Jeff is making the universe safe for humanity Jeff Mitchell: Hi folks! FreddyMaiden: HI Jeff BobS: I thought that was YOUR job???????? George: hi Jeff Ron: nope.... I'm the manager, I delegate and disappear Meeka: hello Jeff FreddyMaiden: learning here Jeff Mitchell: I've got two computers going here...true multitasking :) Pamela: HJ, Jeff Pamela: oops - Hi rich-c: let me guess - both use Windows so that's how you try to assure one works BobS: Fred, see ........Jeff is Ron's grown up baby boy.... Jeff Mitchell: Rich-c> Actually, one of them is an iMac FreddyMaiden: AHHH Guy B.: I'm going to network the P133 and the Athlon together. Bought a network card for the P133 and a crossover cable. The Athlon has one built in. So, that's my new challenge. BobS: on whom Ronald doots........that spelled right????? Ron: Jeff's ok, it's me that's not grown up Pamela: dotes, Bob rich-c: no, it isnt BobS: OK BobS: tanks!!!!! Pamela: velcome BobS: hokay Ron: Actually, Jeff is only about 6 feet away even as we speak
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) Pamela: (drinks Diet coke) rich-c: oh, are you on the mainland or is he visiting you? Judy: how would you like to live with that all the time Ron: He's using fastbox to play some sort of space game and on here as well Guy B.: I'll have one for you next week. FreddyMaiden: thats the distance between the mooses jaw and the end
(BobS reboots Guy B.'s computer remotely.) Ron: yup Rich. He's here Guy B.: Hey!!! Meeka: lol, I do Mom rich-c: coming up to visit the geriatric centre of Canada, wot? Judy: yes, maybe worse Ron: T - 8 days and counting Ron: right rich..... it's the annual gathering of what's left of the fam damily Ron: Brother Dave and girlfriend arriving tomorrow from Calgary George: i got stuck in defrag Ron: Sister Steph and boyfriend arriving Friday from Edmonton rich-c: no, I meant the census figures - actually it is Qualicum Beach has the oldest average population in Canada BobS: how's mum taking all this?????? Ron: it's the one time of year when all the beds actually get used Pamela: Folks, gotta go for a few minutes and move my car - be back as soon as I can rich-c: so you've gotta move, Ron - no settling for second best Ron: she's ok - but tired Meeka: ok Pam Guy B.: Don't take long. FreddyMaiden: Pam is that because of those time limits on each side of street? George: i smell pizza Ron: Had pizza for lunch Ron: Meatlovers Guy B.: Sausage? Bring it my way. Ron: from Boston rich-c: now that's a temptation, George rich-c: but resist it - think of that BMI BobS: heck no freddie.......Pam just liikes to move it every 3 hours so the battery doesn't die!! ;-) Meeka: ok, night Deb George: 37.5 Meeka: oops Ron: there's plenty of BMI to go around
(BobS winks) FreddyMaiden: Some strange people ay? FreddyMaiden: kidding
(A dog howls in the distance) FreddyMaiden: had to specify that rich-c: likely she has it in the visitor area for her building and has to put it downstairs in her proper space Guy B.: That's my dog. FreddyMaiden: There we go! Ron: Bob my son George: smell is driving me crazy Ron: I'm not sure how intelligent I'm going to sound on the session about rebuilding hard drive directories BobS: Ron, me dad......... BobS: oops, guess not. eh???? Ron: trying to remember stuff, and it ain't there BobS: why not, just think instead of sleeping BobS: we can make it a hands on session rich-c: it's OK, I'll bring along my drive with the fibbled EOS directory and you can fix it BobS: we WNAt particiaption here ya know Ron: well, it's going to have to be a collaborative effort BobS: good idea Rich Ron: Guy Cousineau knew all that stuff, but I'm not sure if I ever did Ron: sounds good Rich rich-c: unfortunately, we can't get him to come any more Ron: pity eh? BobS: seems to me you DID a session a few years back......... FreddyMaiden: Why is that RIch Ron: Oh I wouldn't be at all surprised but that was then..... rich-c: I can see that by 'con time, I'm going to be glad to have a truck George: can anyone tell me why my disk defragmenter gets stuck at 41%? Ron: mine is 32% George Ron: must have something to do with the Rocky mountains rich-c: Freddy, he does software maintenance for Agriculture Canada - I think he's a little too advanced now rich-c: of course, one can suggest that he learned all his basics on his Adam FreddyMaiden: too advanced to teach us still? George: is my harddrive about to die? rich-c: too absorbed in other things, I think - there wre issues in his personal life, too FreddyMaiden: OIC rich-c: George, which defrag program are you using? Ron: Windoze (under System tools) FreddyMaiden: George My XT gets stuck while counting the K's when it starts and jams at timesà Ron: very slow process George BobS: hd may not be dying George, but need a full format and start over becasue a lot of junk is in the way FreddyMaiden: can it be the BIOS? rich-c: not necessarily, Ron - there are many others Ron: I usually put it on when I go to bed and let it run all night George: windows me defragmenter Ron: That's the one I've used. rich-c: did you do a scandisc first? Ron: yes BobS: around here with ol douglas, nothing lasts long enough to NEED defragging FreddyMaiden: Yes Ron: Now using Norton System Works, which is also slow, but at least you can see that it's running Guy B.: You should always do Scandisk first before running Defrag. Jeff Mitchell: The defragmenter that comes with Norton Utilities is good, but takes a while to run, it isn't really any faster Pamela: Adventures in parking 101 Ron: What Pam, was the car still there? BobS: had fun eh???????? Judy: that bad, Pam FreddyMaiden: paralell? Ron: cereal? Pamela: well the building only has limited number of visitor spots and I was parked in one of them - the super buzzed and asked me to move it rich-c: I tried the Norton defrag, but it and the Windows one have different ideas of what belongs where George: i did thorough scandisk FreddyMaiden: Rich was right about the parking rich-c: and I find Norton a little too assured about its own opinions for my comfort Ron: Quite frankly, I prefer to wipe the hard drive completely clean every 6 months (fdisk) and start all over Pamela: fun is, the guy who parks at the opposite end of the garage from me ( and therefore has to back all the way down the length to get into his spot) was the other one moving his car Guy B.: Then you have to restore everything and that takes time. Ron: an evening, yes rich-c: George, when you are running defrag, do you click on the "details" box? Guy B.: Too much of a headache for me. George: no
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changed username to newcoleco rich-c: well, do that, then you can see what the program is doing and maybe where and why it's hanging Guy B.: I wonder who could that be??? rich-c: also, how full is your hard disc (percentae)? Pamela: or if it's actually hanging - sometimes it just takes a long time to sort itself out Pamela: who's our mystery caller? rich-c: hey, we have a new omer! rich-c: welcome, newcoleco, whoever you may be newcoleco: hello! [Bob] send me this link to chat online with you saturday night. FreddyMaiden: Hi NEW C Guy B.: Or, could it be someone we already know, but under a diguese. newcoleco: My name is Daniel Guy B.: Disguese!!! rich-c: aha - that isn't our old buddy Tom from SF, is it? Pamela: give it up, Guy Ron: Where ya from Daniel Guy B.: Oh, well, that answers that question. Welcome, Daniel. Pamela: Welcome aboard Pamela: just a warning - we're all nuts newcoleco: Daniel Bienvenu, from Quebec, Canada. Pamela: A Canuck! Ron: Salut! BobS: Hey Daniel !!!!!!! tis I, me.....adamcomputer......... Judy: speak for yourself, pam FreddyMaiden: YEAH thats what i said in the beginning too.... BobS: VELCOME rich-c: If you don't believe it, ask George or Freddy - they're quite new here too newcoleco: Hello Bob FreddyMaiden: no a habs! newcoleco: I still have some problems with my standalone Adam computer Guy B.: How long have you had your Adam? rich-c: hey how about that - Freddy lives up by Mirabel and is a quebecois too Pamela: a Hab Canuck, how's that Freddy? BobS: boys ...and girls....Daniel was instramental in starting a colecovision email list like the ADAM email list FreddyMaiden: lol Guy B.: Hey that's great. FreddyMaiden: Salut Dan rich-c: c'est tres bien fait, Daniel Pamela: unlike we Torontonians and Victorites George: i clicked details and i got a message my drive is not formatted newcoleco: Salut Fred! BobS: thats a major problem Geo newcoleco: Wow! you speak french? Ron: What the hells' a Victorite? Pamela: and if you'll pardon the pun, Daniel, Bienvenue Pamela: that's you Ron rich-c: I claim to be sesqi-lingual FreddyMaiden: Ben oui chu dans le coin de Mirabel Jeff Mitchell: I was thinking the same thing...Victorite? :) Pamela: close as I could come to someplace that Daniel might recognize Ron: nah! I'm 140 miles away from there George: it must have died BobS: sprechen si deutch??????? rich-c: Comoxian, maybe? Ron: better BobS: that has a rign to it ron BobS: rign FreddyMaiden: ich sprech deutch ourch!!!! Pamela: yeah, but other than us, who the heck knows where Comox is? BobS: ring BobS: oh oh...... George: it was a slave disk Ron: Next year, all of you will know Pamela: Can't wait Pamela: what, Bob>?
(S enjoys the flowers.) FreddyMaiden: Daniel té tu de Quebec directement? Meeka: I do. we didn't make it there last time, but I did see it on the map Judy: looking forward to that, Ron George: 6.4 gig rich-c: anyway, Daniel, Freddy is francophone first, Pamela and Pon and I have a bit newcoleco: oui, de Québec.. maintenant que c'est fusionné! BobS: heck, we didn't get further than victoria!!!!!!!! Ron: we'll be here FreddyMaiden: Chte comprends! Ron: but not before I journey there BobS: gals sto know sir!!!!! BobS: farn dingers FreddyMaiden: lolà Guy B.: You mean darn fingers. BobS: that too!!!!!! newcoleco: maybe it's not the right time to talk about my adam disk drive problem. Ron: Bob, ---- another question re the session Pamela: here's the place and the time, Daniel FreddyMaiden: its always time here...... Guy B.: What's going on with it? BobS: yes it is!!!! BobS: tlk away Daniel Ron: have you got a 40 meg IDE hard drive that you don't care about? BobS: talk rich-c: Daniel est-ce que vous connais les magazins Figeau dans la Ville de Quebec? George: HELP ME! BobS: who Ronald?????? Guy B.: George, what's happening with you? Ron: yeaj Ron: yeah BobS: snap out of it Geortge!!!!!! newcoleco: I don't know .. What is Figeau? George: meltdown Guy B.: What, your hard drive crash? rich-c: somehow or other I doubt it, George BobS: don't know, is this a quiz???????? Pamela: spelling, Dad - that's magasin rich-c: desole BobS: WHAT???????? Ron: brb FreddyMaiden: store then Pamela: oui newcoleco: Simply, I don't know if I plug well my adam disk drive and how to use it. rich-c: easy, Bob, let's help the new buddies feel a bit more at home BobS: yes, go to the stor in Quebec and buy a new one!!!!! FreddyMaiden: theres always room for perfection always!! Guy B.: Bob, have you heard from Dale if he's coming next week? George: blue smoke and everything Pamela: that's not good, George BobS: Dale coming....... Pamela: Jill and Jeff too? rich-c: Daniel, write down my email address: firstname.lastname@example.org FreddyMaiden: Dan,Rich va taider c sur! BobS: 'ok Daniel..........plug disk drive INPUT port into either plug on the ADAM console using the same 6 wire cord as the keyboard uses BobS: ya sure Pamela Guy B.: Great. Since we haven't heard from him in a long time. Thought he might have forgotten. BobS: I think newcoleco: Someone said there is a adam disk drive manual somewhere in the internet but I can't find it BobS: don't think so rich-c: send me your questions - though fair warning, I'll have to answer en anglais BobS: don't need a manual......wasy to plug in and use FreddyMaiden: Dan as tu un disk manager? rich-c: if you need a manual I can probably send you a scan BobS: after convention could copy and email pics to ay BobS: you Pamela: George, you still got blue smoke? newcoleco: ok, I have a box "Smart Filer" with a flopy disk inside "Smart Filer" and a manual. rich-c: if so, grab it all quick and stuff it back in George: my disk has a hole in it rich-c: OK, that's fine Pamela: that can't be good Pamela: which disk? George: the slave Pamela: a hard disk, in other words? rich-c: how can you see a hole in a hard disc? George: yes BobS: back to disk drive.....switch on back must be set to DRIVE 1; cable from INPUT port on drive to ADAM console (either plug in) BobS: power plugged in and turned on at the same instant or before the ADAM is turned on George: my case is always open newcoleco: Where on the Adam? I see only two holes... rich-c: Daniel, you have a Coleco Adam floppy disc drive, is that right? BobS: use either one, both the smae BobS: same. like a ;pone plug in BobS: phone newcoleco: yeah! I have n Adam disk drive FreddyMaiden: phone jack hole on left of console BobS: BUT it uses a 6 wire cord, not a 2 or 4 wire like a telephone Pamela: I am making notes here - may need this info in a week or so BobS: there WILL a quiz at ADAMCON Pamela!!!!!!!! rich-c: the flooppy drive ports on the Adam console are one on the front (often used for keyboard) and another about centre left side, way down towards bottom newcoleco: Comment dire ... J'ai déjà plugé dans le input mais sur le adam je ne sais pas où le pluger. George: i saw light shining through a hole in the disk BobS: oh, oh......I missed that daniel rich-c: OK - bien - cherchez a la rive gauche Pamela: he's already plugged in the input but on the ADAm he doesn't know where the plug is rich-c: cote FreddyMaiden: ya une plug à gauche Dan de le boitier en question. newcoleco: the adam net hole? rich-c: tu as raison., Daniel BobS: that's what they called it Ron: nothing like good Fringlish Pamela: c'est vrai, Dan newcoleco: I tried but it's not working... FreddyMaiden: you said it Ron Pamela: and here I was thinking they were speaking Bling FreddyMaiden: More like slang though Ron: on peut supposer qu'il-y-a un mot en francais pour "plugger" FreddyMaiden: brancher Ron Ron: good newcoleco: I see the two red lights on the adam disk drive .. always turned on. FreddyMaiden: connecter is more frenglais BobS: hmmmmm....think Daniel needs a copy of disk drive manual Pamela: ya think? Ron: Our friends south of the border will never again understand anything we say FreddyMaiden: good start Pamela: mais avez-vous un en Francais? Ron: but then, probably that won't change much BobS: nope. only bottom one is supposed to be ON until drive is working on a disk....... BobS: is the ADAM also turned ON ???????? newcoleco: I tried two different Adam computers, 3 different cables, the input and output holes... rich-c: OK, but the powr light is on, which is good, and the read light may be good or bad news Pamela: is there a disk in the drive? BobS: IF adam is turned off , then both disk drive light s will be on newcoleco: There is no disk now in the drive Pamela: d'accord - c'est bien rich-c: how long since the drive has been cleaned? FreddyMaiden: my thoughts exactly! newcoleco: I found this disk drive in a flea market... BobS: and it may have a fried controller board rich-c: I regret to say, drives get sent to flea markets when they don't work Ron: Incoming asteriods must be destroyed before the impact the mothership Ron: I don't know what the hell Jeff is playing over there, but it sounds serious FreddyMaiden: h
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changed username to FreddyMaiden rich-c: what wiould I know about checking out disc drives? I have fine of my own I can't get working newcoleco: I needed an adam disk drive and an adam computer to test my Coleco creations... Coleco emulators give me some wrong reactions. BobS: well you could at least make sure it is or is NOT working......... FreddyMaiden: h Ron: We need a session at the 'con on disk drive troubleshooting rich-c: that's true Pamela: are you volunteering Ron? BobS: they works or they don't!!!!!! Ron: I got some too that are 'tempremental" rich-c: what Daniel really needs is to find a way to get himself to Adamcon George: i'm back BobS: me too. some take a warm up time, some taake a cool off time after running while rich-c: that would tell him about his drives and his software problems Pamela: wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a new drive? BobS: yea where??????? Pamela: Dad has some, I think BobS: ah richard???????? Ron: I have one good one left. Two are on the edge BobS: what ya got new form MI?????? FreddyMaiden: must speak to dad aswell Ron: and the 3-1/2, which is too damn slow for anything except backup rich-c: what I have are the MI drives and they are shockingly pricey rich-c: I paid a ton for them and have to get it out BobS: not compared to a good Coleco drive Ron: Now If I could only get a power supply for the MI 5-1/4 BobS: how much???????? BobS: Ron take it along!!!!!! BobS: possibler?????? rich-c: neww MI 320K $200 US = ship rich-c: that's +shipping newcoleco: tell me more about Figeau. where it is? BobS: tha's what I paid for drives back 10 years ago Pamela: maybe it is cheaper to come to the con : ) Ron: you want me to bring it? rich-c: I thought it was outrageous when I paid that for my two and haven't changed my opinion FreddyMaiden: Maybe where is it again? BobS: and that was for 160k ADAM disk drives Ron: How am I going to explain it to the customs officers? Judy: we could make room BobS: yes BRING IT and we will try to match it up Pamela: ship it Ron Ron: ok, you're on BobS: I don't have an MI drive to know what it takes rich-c: Figeau is a group of shops catering to tourists mainly in lower town. rich-c: just mentioned it because my cousin is married to the owner Pamela: which cousin? Ron: It's the same connector as the ADAM power supply into the ADAM itself BobS: it 'may' take the same power as the hard drvies and then it will be easy to match it up Ron: Well, it ain't doing diddly squat sittin' here rich-c: sorry, I'm lost on the Ron/Bob thread - what is the question? Ron: So there it shall be Pamela: which cousin? rich-c: Joanne Ron: should I bring the powerless MI 5-1/4 drive to the con? George: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Ron: To which the answer was, "why the hell not?" newcoleco: be right back Pamela: doesn't enlighten me much FreddyMaiden: I bid goodnight to all........ rich-c: why would you bring the drive to the 'con, Ron? Pamela: Goodnite, Freddy Meeka: night newcoleco: bonne nuit fred! rich-c: Freddy, sorry you can't stay longer, espeically with Daniel here, but - bonsoir Ron: perhaps somebody can devise a power supply for it BobS: bring the powerless drive with you if possible RONALD Pamela: give it to Dale BobS: night Freddie Ron: It was one that Howard Pines worked on for me at ADAMCON 10 Ron: in fact I left it for him there BobS: and had it running????? rich-c: I can read you the specs off the power supply if that's all you need, Ron George: nite Freddy Ron: He sent it back to me last year with PJ and Bob, but no power supply FreddyMaiden: need to sleep for early rise but will look forward to next chat,à bientôt Dan! FreddyMaiden: tks all Ron: so here it sits..... unserviceable for want of power
FreddyMaiden left chat session BobS: what was the problem?????disk drive or power supply????? Pamela: oh that one - I remember you asking PJ about the power supply now Ron: you got it Pam rich-c: haven't a clue whre Mark got them, but I can give you the specs on the powr supplies he provided Pamela: to which PJ replied something unprintable Ron: Disk drive, so far as I know, is fine. but I have no way of checking it BobS: well Richard, bring a power supply wo we can test it with the drive and then we will know EXACTLY what ps we need for him rich-c: you could ask Mark or Scott for the info; maybe Mark still has a space (if he'll talk to you) Ron: Scott, last time he was on here, said he would send me a power supply. BobS: and DAAT didn't happen Ron: Like many things in our world - for which I am responsible for some - it never happened rich-c: that has implications, doesn't it? Pamela: nag, Ron - it works wonders rich-c: maybe you should nag him a bit - these younger folk sometimes need reminding' Ron: the thought had crossed my mind.. Roundtuits, you know Pamela: I resemble that remark! rich-c: I also suspect that as long as the outputs meet the minimums the exact specs aren't critical Ron: necessity is the mother of invention. I survive. here with other drives.... so nothing gets done at either end BobS: power supply can't be that hard to duplicate, just need one to get specs Ron: am sure it must be standard voltages. Only thing that's different is the plug to the drive. 9 pin Ron: and of course, what voltages go on what pin? Ron: Will try and follow that up with Scott before next week BobS: ZACTLY rich-c: OK the drive is made by Ault Inc. in Korea Pamela: Bob, is there anything we should remember to bring next week? I'll be in Windsor on Wednesday night and may not be able to get on chat Ron: Meanwhile, Jeff continues to combat evil forces of the universe BobS: with correct ps, the rest is DUCK SOUP Ron: using my fastbox duron Judy: clothes for hot weather!!!!! rich-c: Input 120 VAC, 60 Hz, 0.7 amp Ron: humid? Pamela: done - anything else? BobS: uh....dont' forget Russell......... Guy B.: Ok, folks, got to go. See you all next Wednesday. Ron: I don't do well in hot weather. Maybe I'll bring some rain and wind Pamela: darn, I'll have to put him on my list Ron: take care Guy, and remember Pamela: g'nite Guy Ron: don't forget the earplugs Judy: there is air in the hotel BobS: nite Guy rich-c: nite Guy Guy B.: Won't need them Ron. Judy: nite Guy rich-c: Pam, the tapes? Ron: good.. we need something to breathe George: nite Guy Pamela: shoot Dad, forgot to ask BobS: but the 'air' is only for breathin!!!!! newcoleco: bonne nuit! rich-c: Ron, you getting the specs on the p/s as I'm sending them? Pamela: is tomorrow morning early enough BobS: but that don't tell anyone where the power goes in Richard
Guy B. left chat session Ron: you're a gentleman Mr. Clee, a scholar and a good judge of fine whiskey Judy: conditioners all Ron: We're probably going to leave in a minute or two.....rented a video to watch Ron: A Beautiful Mind Pamela: review please Ron BobS: well see ya next week then! Ron: will do Pamela: thanks. Judy: bye, Ron Pamela: goodnite Ron: see ya soon Meeka: bye Ron rich-c: OK the outp[uts are +5 VDC, 3.0 amps - +12 VDC, 0.6 amps, -12 VDC, 0.2 amps Ron: We gonna do next Wed nite? newcoleco: bonne nuit! Pamela: very soon George: nite Ron BobS: Daniel. send me your physical address and I will see what I can find for a copy of the ADAM disk drive manual..... Pamela: be here or be square Ron: stay close NewColeco, you'll learn much from this crew BobS: email it to: Ron: about many things BobS: email@example.com newcoleco: It's the same email you use for the coleco list? Pamela: Bob if you dig it out, give it to one of us and we can mail it when we get home rich-c: Bob, if he emails me, I can send him a scan - I have a manual Jeff Mitchell: 'Night all. Have a good time next week. :) Pamela: Nite Jeff - thanks rich-c: I may even have a Canadian one which will give him the French version Meeka: night Jeff newcoleco: bonne nuit Jeff! BobS: ok, email richar @ cleechez@tamcotec rich-c: nite Jeff
Jeff Mitchell left chat session BobS: whatever works!!!!!!! Pamela: one way or another we'll get it to him Ron: I go to.... movie time w/popcorn rich-c: Daniel, as before: firstname.lastname@example.org Ron: more BMI rich-c: send me your questions and I will do my best to help BobS: me yust sayd dat!!!!! Ron: see ya's all rich-c: Ron, did you get those psecs on the power supply? newcoleco: ok rich.. I will do it! Pamela: until Thursday, Ron Ron: sec Pamela: Ron, what time is your plane? Pamela: arriving, that is Meeka: around supper time right? BobS: 6:20pm EST Pamela: 'kay Pamela: Bob, do we have plans for dinner on Thursday? rich-c: early enough we can save him a spot at the Old Country Buffet BobS: well that us up to him BobS: be around 7pm when he hits mealtime probably rich-c: by the time the rest of us arrive and get settled in it will likely be around 7 anyway Pamela: I'll leave it to you to navigate the airport BobS: no plans Pam lots of restuarants Meeka: no problem Pam. we know where it is lol
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: that's his way of saying he's going to Hooters, Pam Pamela: we'll be there fairly early if we get a reasonable start from Windsor
changed username to Ron BobS: AND hooters is actually CLOSER than Old Country Buffet Ron: Sorry Rich, seem to have a problem with my mail box at the moment. Unable to confirm it's there, but I'd imagine so Pamela: not if Judy has anything to say about it Ron: probably got teleported to the other side of the universe rich-c: no I gave it to you in the chat, you didn't notice? Ron: no. rich-c: never mind I will email it to you later Ron: that would be better BobS: take voltage readings off the pins and map it richard rich-c: expect it before midnight your time tonite Judy: I have not been there, maybe we should Ron: ok.... be good all Pamela: nite, Ron Ron: :)
Ron left chat session newcoleco: bonne nuit Ron!... oups parti! BobS: maybe Hooters delivers food on Scooters Judy: bye Ron see you next week Meeka: well, gang. I had better get going. chat/see ya next week newcoleco: bye! Pamela: yes and yes. Nite for now rich-c: I guess Ron won't make next Wednesday's chat, will he? Or is he getting up REAL early in the morning? Judy: bye Meeka rich-c: nite Meeka, see you next chat - or the day after
Meeka left chat session BobS: he is leaving about 8am his time I think he said Pamela: he'll have lots of time for chat - he has three hours in handd newcoleco: you chat every wednesday? Pamela: Yes, Dan Pamela: 9:00 pm EST rich-c: yes, Daniel, every Wednesday at 9 p.m., and some of us sometimes on Saturday at 3 p.m. rich-c: and if this chat sefver isn't working we have a backup Pamela: well folks, it's bedtime for me newcoleco: I see! newcoleco: bonne nuit Pamela! Pamela: bonne nuit, Dan and please come back rich-c: night daughter - what about the taping? newcoleco: ok Pamela: will let you know after I talk to Russell in the morning - is that soon enough? George: nite Pam rich-c: secondary chat: coleco.cwru.edu/chat/chat.html BobS: ya sure.......it is the golden hour I guess......Daniel, get with Richard for the disk drive specs and scans....... BobS: then try it and come on back rich-c: yes, the first game doesnt start till 7.30 Pamela: e-mail or phone? rich-c: phone may be smarter Pamela: okay will do. Pamela: now I'm really outta here. See everyone Wed if I can get the laptop to work, Thursday in person otherwise BobS: so we (me and Judy) gonna bug out now and see ya'll later!!!!!!
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Pamela left chat session rich-c: well, Geroge and Daniel, seems we're down to the last few newcoleco: before you leave, I want to say I see all your "This Week With My Coleco ADAM" pages. many good informations. rich-c: Daniel, I hope you didn't find all the crosstalk too confusing newcoleco: crosstalking... confusing... yeah it was confusing for me rich-c: oh, those columns wre by Rich Drushel; I'm Rich Clee George: oh i forgot all about the chat rich-c: not that I didn't do some Adam writing too, just not that particular series newcoleco: oops, my mistake... rich-c: I'm Canadian, in Toronto; Dr. D. is a professor at Case Western in Cleveland rich-c: that's why our backup chat has a cwru.edu URL newcoleco: I didn't notice the little c beside your rich nickname. newcoleco: I'm sorry rich-c: no need to apologize; that is done on the assumption that only the usual group will be on newcoleco: I don't know if I can do something for your adamcon rich-c: actually, the other Rich uses Dr. D. just to prevent such confusion newcoleco: If I can't fix my actuel coleco project I will have nothing new to show. rich-c: what we will do if Rich Cossaboon ever checks in from Philadelphia, I'm not sure! rich-c: wrong answer, Daniel - showing the project tht needs fixing will allow the gang to suggest how to fix it rich-c: as you may have noticed with Ron and the power supply, we ar here to help each other newcoleco: I was thinking to finish a new little coleco game project for the adam news network... but without any good testing with a real adam computer. newcoleco: I don'T know if you understand me rich-c: pity Scott Gordon wasn't on - he's working on a Coleco game, too George: i think i have to go rich-c: and Dale Wick gives seminars at Adamcon on writing games newcoleco: Oh... bonne nuit George! George: what? rich-c: right George - see you next chat - take it easy newcoleco: good night! rich-c: have to make allowances for George -he's an American newcoleco: good = bon, bonne George: nite, see you Sat.? newcoleco: night = nuit rich-c: hope so, George newcoleco: so good night = bonne nuit George: ok
George left chat session rich-c: as you might have guessed, George needs a certain amount of indulgence newcoleco: Me too! Sometimes I don't understand what you say! newcoleco: Well, I'm writing Coleco games in C so I have no control on the final result... it why I need to test my creations. rich-c: don't worry about it - if there's a problem, just ask rich-c: we'll try to find another way in English or come back to you in French newcoleco: If I can test myself my games I will be able to fix bugs very quickly. rich-c: OK, you are into areas of which I am ignorant rich-c: my guess is that in order to test them, you need to port them to an Adam rich-c: that would mean assembling them to run within TDOS (CP/M) newcoleco: That's right! I need to see if the result CRASH or WORK! newcoleco: I use Hitech-C compiler and a CP/M emulator (for DOS) newcoleco: I don't have any software for the Adam rich-c: again, you are beyond my knowledge - but Dale Wick or Dr. D. or Scott will have no problem newcoleco: I just have a SmartFiler rich-c: well, first we have to get your Adam working newcoleco: And also some tools I found to dump dsk image on disks rich-c: Then, be aware that both Bob and I sell Adam stuff rich-c: my retirement hobby is A.D.A.M. Services, a dealer in things Adam newcoleco: I tested my Adam with a TAPE and it's working ... I have Buck Roger rich-c: right - there are lots of programs for the Adam including many third-party games newcoleco: It's only a problem to use the adam disk drive or the disk drive itself rich-c: in fact, the nicest interpretation of Tetris I've seen is Addictus for the Adam newcoleco: Addictus, I tried it with an emulator rich-c: well, we will have to see if your disc drive can be made to work rich-c: the usual secret is cleaning newcoleco: So I have to open it? newcoleco: I'm not an expert in electronic rich-c: if that doesn't work, you'll have to see if Howard Pines down in Ft. Walton Beach, FL is willing to help rich-c: he is retired now but owned and ran a computer repair business for years rich-c: no, just buy a floppy disc cleaning disc and use it newcoleco: wait a minute... the Adam services? I see the web page. rich-c: these consist of a dummy disc, of tissue paper instead of vinyl rich-c: and a bottle of cleaning fluid you pour on the dummy disc rich-c: then you just put it in the drive and let it spin rich-c: actually, not my web page, it's a listing on Meeka's hollowdreams.com newcoleco: I have a cleaning kit for PC ... a 5"1/4 floppy disk with a bottle. rich-c: that's what I'm talking about - just use it rich-c: my suspicion is that you will have to use it several times newcoleco: ok, I will use it. newcoleco: I found the URL : http://ann.hollowdreams.com/AdamServices/ADAMsvcs.html rich-c: by the way, taking disc drives apart is a cinch - it's putting them back together that's a problem newcoleco: wait a second.. i need to translate your text rich-c: yes, that is Meeka Slopsema's website - she is Bob's daughter-in-law, married to son Doug newcoleco: err.. the translation is horrible rich-c: what is giving you trouble? newcoleco: a cinch rich-c: ah - ca veut dire, c'est facile newcoleco: ok, now I understand newcoleco: :) rich-c: any time you have difficulty feel free to ask newcoleco: ok rich-c: I guarantee, your English is better than my francais newcoleco: Well, it's only my first year of chating in english rich-c: and entre nous, I suspect Freddy's joual would confuse us both! newcoleco: I still need some help to write the right words. rich-c: expect to find it here - as mentioned, there are several Canadians who understand and will enforce patience newcoleco: confuse who and who? rich-c: you and I newcoleco: me? rich-c: in my travels in Quebec, I have noticed the accents are very regional newcoleco: that's right rich-c: I'd guess Freddy's accent is very Outaouais, yours would likely be more central rich-c: and I know French in the Gaspe is not like in your city rich-c: just like I have troubles with what folks in the US South claim is newcoleco: I don't know if you see on TV : FORTIER. rich-c: English rich-c: the only things I watch on TV are motor racing and CFL football newcoleco: ok, I see FORTIER at the english channel and there are only some subtitles at the bottom on the screen. It's only to refer on which french accent I can talk. rich-c: anyway, Daniel, I promised to email those specs to Ron by midnight, and time is getting on newcoleco: ok, sorry! newcoleco: I don't see the time ... newcoleco: I have to go now rich-c: so send my your email address so I can send you the manual newcoleco: ok, rich-c: and if you have any questions, fire away newcoleco: bonne nuit Richar C. newcoleco: It's Richard or just Rich? rich-c: bon soir, mon ami - a demain (or samedi, or la mercredi prochaine) newcoleco: bonsoir mon ami à demain rich-c: and it's as you chose, formal or informal rich-c: I answer to both rich-c: au revoir newcoleco: chow! ;)
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