HLM: And so I see you had the same idea sir
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Rich Drushel requested to ban Rich Drushel
left chat session Rich Drushel: This is a test. HLM: test failed Rich Drushel: NetZero is failing, keeps disconnecting. HLM: you r logged in twice Rich Drushel: Yes, it didn't die when the connection did.
Rich Drushel requested to ban Rich Drushel
HLM confirmed ban Rich Drushel: Thanks. HLM: probably should deleone only 10 allowed in HLM: one is gone now
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changed username to gmk Rich Drushel: Also part of the problem is running all of NetZero's krud from this 486 :-) Rich Drushel: It seems to be so slow that none of the dumb banner ads have time to load, so I don't see any. gmk: (PRIVATE) i guess I finally made it here HLM: (PRIVATE) ok
(gmk gives HLM a can of Diet Coke.) Rich Drushel: Diet Coke for Herman, naahhh. HLM: no way
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changed username to Ron-AC14 Ron-AC14: Wherever you go, there you are HLM: yep Ron-AC14: See Herman is on ok
HLM changed username to HLM-AC14 Rich Drushel: Hello, Ron. HLM-AC14: just barely Ron-AC14: Rich, we gotta stop meeting like this Rich Drushel: The travel is too expensive this way :-) Ron-AC14: only in ADAMland Rich Drushel: Nothing like coming 300+ miles to talk by computer in adjacent rooms. Ron-AC14: :) Ron-AC14: rite HLM-AC14: be nice Rich Drushel: I just hope that this NetZero thingy holds up on the 486. Ron-AC14: Is that what Bob is using? HLM-AC14: it should Rich Drushel: I think. Rich Drushel: Herman, I seem to remember that NetZero used to be (still is?) something that if you didn't click on their ads etc. every 5 minutes, you got disconnected. Rich Drushel: Is this true? HLM-AC14: yea the idle time out Ron-AC14: captive market Rich Drushel: I only want to take them for 3 hours of my "free" monthly 10 hours tonight, and then not use them again for a couple of months :-) HLM-AC14: I am using ameritech Ron-AC14: Anybody know if you can connect 2 computers to the phone lines in these rooms? HLM-AC14: so is GK Rich Drushel: I would use APKnet dialup but I forfeited the 800-number 56K dialup when I switched to ADSL. HLM-AC14: we figured out a way to bothh connect in sam e room
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: They didn't used to do that, but some new ADSL switchers were giving away their old access to friends.
changed username to Dale
Dale changed username to Dale-AC14 Dale-AC14: Hi fellow AC14ers. Ron-AC14: how did you do it HLM? Rich Drushel: So, they were forced to take away the legacy 56K dialup unless you bought a second account. Rich Drushel: Hi Dale. Rich Drushel: But this 486 is so slow, I don't get any banner ad updates, nothing really to click on to tell NetZero that I'm not "idle". HLM-AC14: I am in data port GK is in jack accross room for phone I guess Rich Drushel: Must be 2 phone numbers in the room? HLM-AC14: porbably u know us we had to try Ron-AC14: hmmm...... Rich Drushel: There is some kind of modem bolted to the underside of my desk in my room here. Ron-AC14: same here Rich Drushel: Not hooked up to anything that I can tell. Ron-AC14: same Rich Drushel: No power supply connected to it, though I see the jack.
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changed username to FreddyMaiden HLM-AC14: just curious FreddyMaiden: Hi all Ron-AC14: Hello Freddy ..... our first outside customer Rich Drushel: Can't tell if the "phone jacks" on it are phone or CAT5 networking. Rich Drushel: Hello Freddy. FreddyMaiden: haha Ron-AC14: Guy just plugged into one of them
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changed username to rich-c FreddyMaiden: Hi RIch Ron-AC14: The rest of us are sitting here in the same building - having travelled hundreds or thousands of miles rich-c: hail, hail, the ganf's all here Ron-AC14: now what do we do?
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changed username to gmk rich-c: we all talk - hi rich-c: freddy gmk: Hello all rich-c: see both Herman and rich-c: george are on
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changed username to George FreddyMaiden: are you all in seperate rooms? Rich Drushel: The modem under the table is a DSL modem. Phone in, CAT5 network out. HLM-AC14: yes rich-c: hello George as in Philly
Dale-AC14 changed username to Jeffrey-AC14 George: Hi everyone Jeffrey-AC14: dsfzfxz rich-c: well, I am in my room, dont know about the others Jeffrey-AC14: cvwwdewefaf FreddyMaiden: Hi George Jeffrey-AC14: ffjjjjjjjj h Rich Drushel: Dale, is Jeffrey talkiing in rot13 or what? Jeffrey-AC14: vcmkjv,c g eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr George: i'm off my food Jeffrey-AC14: ,mmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, rich-c: no, he's talking in 7monthold
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!
changed username to newcoleco newcoleco: hello ;) George: How is the convention? rich-c: hello Daniel FreddyMaiden: Salut Daniel Jeffrey-AC14: y vccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccv newcoleco: salut! rich-c: we are doing fine so far - I even have the Emulator up and running newcoleco: great FreddyMaiden: running on what type computer Rich? rich-c: just finished loading a pinball game I found at CompUSA for 98 cents
Jeffrey-AC14 changed username to Dale-AC14 Dale-AC14: Jeffrey just wanted to get his 2 cents worth in. :-) FreddyMaiden: he did it!! rich-c: I'm running a Dell Latitude XPi P166 Dale-AC14: He's written some Dadaist poetry too. FreddyMaiden: Tks Rich rich-c: maybe so Dale, but his strong point is performance art Dale-AC14: His reading of "An ode to bababababababa" is outta sight. rich-c: Freddy, watch out - don't let Jeffy in sight of Meganne - all the females go ga-ga over him
moved to room Meeting Place FreddyMaiden: does he like baseball, i will polish my bat no problem FreddyMaiden: kidding.... rich-c: oh, being from Toronto, rules say he Dale-AC14: We had fun today. Today we talked about:
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: s got to be a Blue Jays fan
changed username to Toronto
changed username to BobS@AC14 George: who is who? rich-c: whoops - who's guarding out home base, Dale? FreddyMaiden: are you skitzo? BobS@AC14: HIYA GUYS !!!! newcoleco: Hello! FreddyMaiden: Hi Bob George: Hi Bob BobS@AC14: hey Geo !!!!! rich-c: HLM is Herman, GLK is George K, both from Cleveland Dale-AC14: Interfactive Fiction as an approach to game design. BobS@AC14: Welcome to ADAMCON...and Daniel and Freddie George: mouseless BobS@AC14: aznd Toronto BobS@AC14: tha you Pam????? FreddyMaiden: tks Bob rich-c: the rest you know except for Toronto BobS@AC14: just sittin here havin a great time listenin to all the tech jumbo.........
newcoleco changed username to Daniel Bienvenu BobS@AC14: so who's Toronto??????? BobS@AC14: michael????? Dale-AC14: which followed a detailed hands on Adam Bomb 2 session. Daniel Bienvenu: What is "Adam Bomb 2"? BobS@AC14: and they are STILL polaying ADAMBOMB2 in the conference room rich-c: no, that's not his style, and Dale hasnt put him back on the mailing list yet Toronto: Dale you can use the Pape Rec Ctr on the 24th rich-c: more likely to be Harvey - he turns up on occasion Dale-AC14: Thanks Doug. FreddyMaiden: Bob, have you sent handouts by mail? BobS@AC14: Harvey DAT YOU!!!!! Rich Drushel: Back after a trip to the session room and some technical discussion with Doug Slopsema. Dale-AC14: I got your voice mail when I was out of town. George: boy things are going fast rich-c: nope, it's Doug Rich Drushel: Hello Daniel. Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Rich D. BobS@AC14: Chappell !!!!! FreddyMaiden: Hi Rich D Toronto: 10-4 George: makes my head spin
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moved to room Meeting Place Dale-AC14: ko yuhn rich-c: yes, lots of threads today, George Dale-AC14: 7j=- Dale-AC14: (Jeffrey ) Dale-AC14: -=0ds ADP)_a3g rich-c: the difference between Jeffy and his old man is that sometimes I can follow what Jeffy's saying Dale-AC14: Adam Bomb is... BobS@AC14: hmmmm.....that has some merit Richard Dale-AC14: a game with a 180 screen maze... FreddyMaiden: 2cents and 7month old that is ay? Dale-AC14: where you rescue people and collect crystals. rich-c: well, I never claimed to be a techie Daniel Bienvenu: how it's possible to add 180 screen maze in a cart? rich-c: sept mois, c'est vrais George: rescue me in philly BobS@AC14: the incredible part is that Jeffy UNDERSTANDS Richard n!!!!!! FreddyMaiden: impossible mission Dale-AC14: Roichard, you woul have liked today's session. It would have appealed to BAs even.
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: it isn't a cart game, Daniel, it's a tape game, basically a basic program
moved to room Meeting Place Daniel Bienvenu: ok
changed username to PJ
changed username to Ron-AC14 BobS@AC14: Daniel, you can put it in cart form!!!!! Ron-AC14: aha! rich-c: PJ! YOU MADE IT!!!!
Rich Drushel left chat session rich-c: welcome to the Internat George: where is the disco music comming from? Ron-AC14: Hey! PJ!!!!
moved to room Meeting Place HLM-AC14: Well `I will be darn PJ in the flesh PJ: Ii aam not used to this keyboard.
changed username to Rich Drushel Daniel Bienvenu: Then, what is the little innovation? 180 screens in 32K? sounds impossible rich-c: that's OK, at AC weare all using unfamiliar keyboards on laptops George: TSOP Rich Drushel: Hope there aren't two of me...system problems. PJ: hayy gaang Rich Drushel: Hello PJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Daniel Bienvenu: hello FreddyMaiden: Hi Pj rich-c: you aren't limited to 32K daniel, a BASIC program can be any length up to 256K HLM-AC14: Hello Patricia Rich Drushel: I think he is thinking of RAM space. Rich Drushel: Can't remember if ADAMBOMB requires a 64K RAM expander or not. PJ: Yall get my packaage? rich-c: yes, you can only use 32K of RAM at one time, but you can clear and reload it Ron-AC14: yes PJ...... heartfelt PJ: <<HUUGGS>!!!!! rich-c: that was an exquistely pretty card, Pat Ron-AC14: backatcha kid PJ: card? rich-c: ditto and double, PJ - AC is now official PJ: :) rich-c: the postcard with the bird Rich Drushel: NetZero is aborting here...may be back in a while if it dies completely. Rich Drushel: Response time of 486 is too slow for it, it is unhappy. Toronto: I am 10-7 Bye and good luck. Daniel Bienvenu: My biggest Coleco project was "Miss Space Fury" and I used all the 32K : 20 screens. rich-c: how did you manage to join us, PJ? PJ: OHH.... so you DID get iit! CCOOLL!! Ron-AC14: see ya Toronto Daniel Bienvenu: And the MSX-1 game Lode Runner has 80 screens (32k too). Rich Drushel: Yes, PJ, who got you fixed up with net.access? rich-c: haven't had a chance to try them myself but others here have, Daniel PJ: II'm on my neighbor's computer. VERY& mushy keyboard, BUT!! Ron-AC14: PJ..... would like you to meet Freddy from Montreal and Daniel from Quebec City. PJ is in Orlando
Toronto left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: Hi PJ! George: i have to come to one of these things FreddyMaiden: Hi Pj rich-c: PJ helped organize our very first adamcon and did organize AC10
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moved to room Meeting Place PJ: LLOVE TO! Provided they like HUGS :) Ron-AC14: I'd expect so Ron-AC14: If they don't, you can give 'em to me PJ: HHii Guys rich-c: no Adamcon is official till we've had our hug with PJ FreddyMaiden: Nice requirement Rich. rich-c: till she came on right now and delivered, we were running AC13-B PJ: Ron--- GRIN <HUGS> Rich Drushel: PJ, I'm taking lots of photos, so if you can keep your net.access next week, you'll get to see them. Daniel Bienvenu: Because I never see you before, I will take a look at the adamcon web site... I think I see some photos. Rich Drushel: Elanor is here, too, though not in my room with me right now. She's trying to beat ADAM BOMB in the session room. rich-c: yes, either Dale's Adamcon site or Meeka's Hollwdreams site have pictures Rich Drushel: Since I'm the photographer, Daniel, not too many will have me :-) Gotta get some people to take pictures of me with my camera. PJ: Rich, did you see the pix I sent with your daughters innem?? HLM-AC14: PJ we ain't gonna have our annual who is the oldest battle Rich Drushel: I am also taking a time-lapse movie of the convention. Rich Drushel: A new photo every 30 seconds, saved as a movie. Rich Drushel: No sound, but you can at least see activity. FreddyMaiden: Cool Daniel Bienvenu: My friends here think I'm a papparazi because I like taking many many pictures. Rich Drushel: Probably 50 MB of raw video now (it will get crunched down later). PJ: OOOOH, Rich.... Did you do the LEGO thing again??
moved to room Meeting Place George: oh, thats aol radio Rich Drushel: No, I couldn't bring all the robots to Grand Rapids...
changed username to Guy B.-AC14 Rich Drushel: Have you seen last year's robot photos, PJ? Ron-AC14: What took ya so long Guy? Guy B.-AC14: Yippy, I;\'m finally here. Rich Drushel: They are on a webpage I made. Guy B.-AC14: Darn notebook. rich-c: hi Guy, where have you been? George: Hi Guy PJ: GUY!!! hi dude FreddyMaiden: Hi GUY! Guy B.-AC14: Hi all. PJ, How are you doing? Daniel Bienvenu: hello Ron-AC14: This is so cool! Ron-AC14: This is the best hotel yet for connections PJ: Breathin in, breathin out... what else CAN I do !! ::) Guy B.-AC14: Having two data ports in each room really helps. rich-c: yes, is that DSL line in your room usable? George: is there a dance? Guy B.-AC14: Glad you made it tonight. Sure miss you here. HLM-AC14: yea righ will send u the bill Ron Ron-AC14: Well actually Rich C. There's another phone jack on the other side of the room PJ: TWOO data ports?? WWOW Guy B.-AC14: I'm beginning to wonder that myself with that modem underneath. rich-c: oh, that rich-c: s it. Wonder if we have one? I haven't looked Ron-AC14: first it didn't work, then I connected a loose phone connector to that modem under the desk, and presto PJ: Herman, I am oldest and theree is NO argument. rich-c: ahem, PJ Guy B.-AC14: It looks familiar since I helped a very good friend setup her DSL at her place and the modem is very similar. HLM-AC14: yes mother BobS@AC14: maybe not I'm really Tom Oz BobS@AC14: I may be older!! rich-c: aha - Bob has loaned out his computer for the evening, has he? BobS@AC14: He is trying to get Russel going next door. Ron-AC14: HLM...just saw your last..... will gladly pay it PJ: No, Mr. Clee. This is one of several perennial aargumments between me and Herman. HLM-AC14: US FUNDS ONLY rich-c: oh, guess I'm not invited into the young folks squabbles Guy B.-AC14: It's bad enough that one of my disk driives on my P75 I have here is bad. I couldn't use Adamserve or copying files via Dcopy for the emulator. Rich Drushel: Well I am definitely *not* the oldest and won't be for quite some time so nyaahhhhhhh! Guy B.-AC14: Well, were are the in-between Rich. PJ: This kkeyboard is so #@^%#&~"!! mushy I am going back to hunt n peck and STILL losing Guy B.-AC14: What computer are you using PJ? PJ: So where is the KID??? (Dale) rich-c: great heavens, what kind of computer are you using anyway, PJ? HLM-AC14: not really about age it is only MONTHS Different between ME and PJ that is the inside joke Ron-AC14: he's the youngest PJ.... no arguement about that either
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: We secretly replace PJ's PC with a Coleco ADAM and a gigabit ethernet card...
(Guy B.-AC14 laughs heartily) PJ: I think it's a GGateway
changed username to Alan Neeley George: any goodies available? Guy B.-AC14: Desktop or notebook? rich-c: that should have at least a semi-decent keyboard rich-c: old buddy, we haven rich-c: t heard for auTAH FOR YEARS - WHERE YOU BEEN, ALAN Ron-AC14: Alan! FreddyMaiden: Hi PJ: NO decent keyboard; dunno what else it's got and don't rreally ccare Guy B.-AC14: Hi Alan, long time, no see. Alan Neeley: Hello everybody... Long time no see! :) Guy B.-AC14: As long as it works. Rich Drushel: Alan Neely, hello sir! rich-c: aLAN nEELY AND pj TOO - AN EMBARASSMENT OF RICHES! Rich Drushel: Oops, Neeley! HLM-AC14: Hello A-Net Neeley rich-c: sorry, got the caps lock off now so will stop shouting PJ: Hi Ddaale. ALAN! You are ALIVE!!!!!! Dale-AC14: PJ, Jeffrey wanted to be changed. He was on earlier. Ron-AC14: priorities Rich Drushel: Jeffrey typed in Klingon. Dale-AC14: He just went out to the common room to show off his cute bedtime outfit.
BobS@AC14 left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: I'm quiet because I'm looking at some pictures from ADAMCON 10,11,12 & 13 Dale-AC14: It is red and white stripped (almost like a candy cane). PJ: Ha ha HA! good for Jeffrey! George: can we change fonts? Ron-AC14: He's making friends a quite a rate PJ Guy B.-AC14: Were missing Pam Clee. Rich C. where is she? FreddyMaiden: Goonite outfit? how old? Ron-AC14: and Murray rich-c: you can change the tye size, George, it's on one of the menu items Rich Drushel: I'm sorry that my webpage for ADAMcon 13 photos is down...a power outage in my office while I was away. Rich Drushel: I'll put it back up Tuesday morning when I go in to work. rich-c: Guy, I think Pam nad Russell went shopping, but I'm surprised they aren't bak Dale-AC14: Seven months old. rich-c: maybe they are having rouble getting online PJ: well, I am SSOOO surprisedFreddy, he's about 7 mos rich-c: have to ask BobS about that Guy B.-AC14: The stores are already closed, so they should be heading then. Unless they stopped to get something to eat. Ron-AC14: brb FreddyMaiden: Dale,thought it was a joke....i take back those baseball comments.... George: i was looking to chane fonts all together PJ: okk withf ME, George George: change Dale-AC14: Nope, Jeffrey is the youngest AdamCon attendee. Guy B.-AC14: And a cute one I might add. PJ: Did he get a Tshirt?
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changed username to BobS FreddyMaiden: 6months older than my daughter...maybe they will match?? BobS: yes, but he didn't have Java on it Guy B.-AC14: Murray has his laptop with him. rich-c: long as you bring her up in the good Adam faith, Fred George: a wet t-shirt contest? Dale-AC14: I'll try and gather AC14 pictures and post em later. There are some new born pictures on http://www.neil.wick.net/jeffery BobS: HI PJ PJ: My grandson AADAM was 6 yesteerdaay. I am sending him the last known kid's size ADAMCON Tshirt. BobS: WASSUP ?????? rich-c: Bob, any idea why Pam isnt on? PJ: HIYAA BOB!!! FreddyMaiden: Rich, will try forsure......me first must learn more.... Dale-AC14: I had a hellish few weeks at work before AdamCon, so last night I slept about 11 hours, and today I feel a bit better. Guy B.-AC14: Been working too hard Dale. Good thing the rest helps. rich-c: Alan, for someone who has been off so long, you are awfully quiet Dale-AC14: PJ, he did indeed get a t-shirt rich-c: for the benefit of the newcomers, alan organized AC05 in Salt Lake City Guy B.-AC14: Tom has come into our room and will use Ron's notebook. Dale-AC14: Freddy, maybe he'll have to get to know her <grin> PJ: Y0u actually SLEPT, Dale???? Fatherhood must have a calming effect on you! BobS: Pam jkust got here Alan Neeley: Just sitting back and watching old friends talk! TRying to get caught up... FreddyMaiden: Yeah one of the first things ay? Guy B.-AC14: Get her on. I have something to give to her. BobS: ALAN !!!! got your post just a little while ago, how you ARE????? rich-c: hey, we missed the O% banner for the room - big hole in our memories! Rich Drushel: Well, stop back every Wed. at 9 PM Eastern and we'll get you caught up...or maybe we could arrange some later times for your Utah time zone.
moved to room Meeting Place Guy B.-AC14: Alan that would be 7 in your time zone. Rich Drushel: Yes, still 3 missing banners: 03, 05, and 06.
changed username to Tom OZ PJ: AAny6body heard from the Zonkerman??? Guy B.-AC14: There's Tom. Rich Drushel: But all the others are up, and the Cleveland B.A.S.I.C. banner, too. Alan Neeley: I have the 05 banner tucked away with all my ADAM stuff Rich Drushel: Glad the 05 banner is safe. Rich Drushel: Still got that ADAMCON5 license plate? Guy B.-AC14: Havene't heard from Zonker in a long time. FreddyMaiden: brb Alan Neeley: 9PM eastern is not a bad time for me. I'll have to set a reminder and start hanging out... rich-c: Fred, Dan, Tom Osretich is anothetr Adam user from way back PJ: I hate to inform you that the 02 banner lost its letters. Rich Drushel: Are you subscribed to the mailing list, Alan? Tom OZ: rich-c It's Ozretich BobS: Alan, what you got in ADAM stuff the rest of us can get?????? Daniel Bienvenu: hello! Alan Neeley: I do subscribe. I take a peek every once in awhile... rich-c: sorry Tom, my keyboard can't spell - you may have noticed
moved to room Meeting Place PJ: TOM???? I can't BELIEVE it!!!! Guy B.-AC14: Alan, when you have a chance, visit my website, www.geocities.com/bonag_3. My site is on the Adam Emulator Utilities.
changed username to Murray rich-c: look at that attendance list, PJ - Adam lives and thrives Tom OZ: No problem, do you still have that CD that Doug burned for you? Alan Neeley: Bob: I really need to take an inventory. There's a lot down there in the basement BobS: YO Murray !!!!!! BobS: now we need Pam Guy B.-AC14: There you are Murray! BobS: well let us know bud, we can maybe relieve you of some stuff Murray: Hi rich-c: Tom, yes, I have the CD in my briefcase - you know about the attributes? PJ: Hey MURRAY!!! Murray: Hi PJ Tom OZ: Hi! PJ I still remember that late nite or early morning we spent hacking around Power Point. BobS: NEED MI 1/2 meg simm memory expanders....unpopulated is OK Daniel Bienvenu: hello rich-c: PJ, Murray is about to take off the the highlands of Peru Murray: PJ Hope everythings well with you Guy B.-AC14: Daniel thinks we left him out. Dale-AC14: Daniel, you're pretty quiet. PJ: PERU??? Dale-AC14: You still there? Murray: PJ I'm off to am Aamzon adventure Daniel Bienvenu: I'm looking for picture of you PJ: Daniel, you in here? Tom OZ: rich-c I do know a little about read and write attributes. rich-c: he's prowling the Adamcon archive sites for pictures of us PJ: Oh WOW Rich Drushel: Amazon adventure, Murray? Do tell! Daniel Bienvenu: I don't find any picture of Tom. I see Dale, Rich, Meeka, etc.. Rich Drushel: For me, Daniel, you can look at http://junior.apk.net/~drushel/ rich-c: Tom ahs only been to selected Adamcons, Daniel - you'll hve to ask him which Tom OZ: Daniel Look for the handsome one. Murray: Adventure!!! Lazing around for 2 weeks actually!!!! Rich Drushel: Me and my wife on Halloween, that is :-) FreddyMaiden: back!!! Hi Tom Rich Drushel: Beware of poison arrow frogs... rich-c: Dale, how long since you've updated the mailing list? Daniel Bienvenu: Rich,I know this picture Rich. I see it last year Dale-AC14: The mailing list? rich-c: forget the frogs, duck the arrows Murray: They say they are nasty little creatures I'll do my best to avoid them! Dale-AC14: Maybe a while. Murray: The natives I guess are not so kind to strangers in some places Guy B.-AC14: Yes, when I sent out an e-mail, I got about 8 invalid addresses back. rich-c: you did say, Murray, you might be living on the local cuisine...
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: :-)
changed username to Pamela AC14 gmk: You can see some pictures at "www.hlm-gmk.com/12menu.html" PJ: GOD I miss you guys!!!! Rich Drushel: Or the local cuisine will be living on Murray! rich-c: about time you got here, daughter Guy B.-AC14: There you Pam. I have something for you. George: Hi Pam
(Guy B.-AC14 gives Pamela AC14 a can of Diet Coke.) Alan Neeley: what she said!!! Miss you too PJ! Pamela AC14: sorry Dad, it took me a while to get organized Murray: rich-c that's right...not sure whether it'll be any more exotic than Africa when I dined on cobra FreddyMaiden: Hi Pam Pamela AC14: Hi Freddy Pamela AC14: PJ my darling rich-c: is it true it tastes like chicken, Murray? Rich Drushel: Pamela! Rich Drushel: Oops, I didn't mean that cobra tastes like Pamela! Stupid net.lag.... Pamela AC14: what, Rich? PJ: I dined on blood pudding and raw fish in Hawaii. Tom OZ: Pam, did you buy anything exciting at the mall? Murray: it does taste a lot like that rather dry though Dale-AC14: Neil is in Finland right now. I don't think that he will be on the chat. Pamela AC14: Lotsa stuff, very secret
(A dog howls in the distance) rich-c: at least until you manage to get it thru customs? Guy B.-AC14: That's from my dog back home. PJ: OOOH, Pam... sounds interesting Rich Drushel: Black treacle, bubble and squeak... Pamela AC14: where are Meeka and Judy? Dale-AC14: He is there for a lingusitics conference, and he starts his Masters in Linguistics this fall. Murray: PJ blood pudding!!! i had raw fish in Korea yum yum Pamela AC14: I bought lingerie PJ rich-c: speakinhg of which, isnt it about time james came on? George: drinks anyone? Pamela AC14: gonna freak out the customs people PJ: I need hot sauce on it.. (raww fish that is) otherwise it wants to slide back up. Murray: Dale Masters in Linguistics!!! I thought my studies were esoteric FreddyMaiden: They wont even sease Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) I hope all is well with you dear. Diane says hi! Pamela AC14: thanks for the d.c., Guy Guy B.-AC14: Your welcome. Daniel Bienvenu: ok, I think I found a picture of Tom in Meeka web site. Murray: PJ well that it can do ecck... rich-c: I'll have a Guiness, George BobS: I'm Bob for the moment (Ron M) BobS: Bob is gonna set up in the session room Pamela AC14: Huh? George: mamma mia Daniel Bienvenu: oh .. looks serious BobS: confusing eh? Pamela AC14: okay, I get it Pamela AC14: stoopid keyboard is too small PJ: I'm not talking sushimi, but the big chunks they call poke rich-c: just change it on the list, Ron Dale-AC14: I haven't posted myself in a while, so I don't know which addresses are invalid. I'll do that before I go back to work on Wednesday. I might even update the chats archives from November to today (if you're luckey ;-) Guy B.-AC14: What do you expect from notebooks! BobS: ok Tom OZ: You meqan pork? Pamela AC14: bigger keyboards! BobS: would have to log myself out PJ: Tell Diane HI for me, Alan... Kids too! Guy B.-AC14: Same goes here. Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) Bob - I do have some MI memory expanders - even a 1 megger I believe George: my eyes are going wonky again Pamela AC14: Herman, you're awfully quiet rich-c: Dale. all the former @home address are now extinct PJ: Not pork... PO...ke HLM-AC14: hresting
Dale-AC14 changed username to Jeffrey-AC14 Pamela AC14: again?
(Jeffrey-AC14 smiles) Alan Neeley: Ya but Pam I'll bet he's just as handsome as he's ever been! :) Murray: Hi Alan Haven't heard from you in quite some time Hope everythings ok HLM-AC14: resting that is
(Jeffrey-AC14 laughs heartily) Pamela AC14: as ever Alan Rich Drushel: Norwegian Blue, beautiful plumage, he's restin'.
Jeffrey-AC14 changed username to Dale-AC14 Tom OZ: Those PORK chops got to Herman. PJ: YEY, Jeffrey!! Guy B.-AC14: Looks like our newest youngster is becoming a hit on the keyboard. HLM-AC14: no comments rich-c: yeah, still thinking about lunch Rich Drushel: Hit is about all Jeffrey can do on the keyboard :-) George: is there going to be a new ADAMCON.org page? BobS: he'll be walking by a year, and writing c++ code at 14 months Pamela AC14: Pj, it's some first release that Dale and Jillian have there - cute as a button Rich Drushel: He did take a couple of pictures of me with my camera, though. They're entertaining... Guy B.-AC14: WOuldn't be surprised. rich-c: better ask Dale that, George George: hey Dale Dale-AC14: AdamCon.org will be updated. Guy B.-AC14: You should see him smile to everyone. Pamela AC14: rich, if we get dumped, whats your site address? Rich Drushel: I am going to see if I can get Elanor in here to type a bit. So she can talk to you, PJ. Dale-AC14: Other years, I've tried to update it daily, but this year, it looks like the updates will mostly have to wait until Monday. PJ: COOL! Rich Drushel: Me, Pam? Which site? rich-c: coleco.cwru/edu/chat/chat.html FreddyMaiden: Elanor finished her game? Pamela AC14: your secondary site Rich
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: Oh, alt. chat site, got it. Guy B.-AC14: Elanor has been playing Adambomb 2 since this morning. Rich Drushel: Your Dad gave it. rich-c: but this time if we get dumped Dale caqn likely fix it quick
changed username to BobS Pamela AC14: thank you - I didn't bring the address Rich Drushel: Not sure if she is done yet...back in a few minutes. George: i never seen it this busy before FreddyMaiden: Guy, youre right get her out of there... BobS: JACK is BACK !!!!! Daniel Bienvenu: Who ios back? rich-c: it is a very special occasion, George Pamela AC14: this is the one day of the year when everyone shows up Daniel Bienvenu: Jack who? BobS: ME
BobS changed username to Bytehacker Pamela AC14: which me? Bytehacker: Ron(AC14) - not here right now.... He's here but not all there George: where is James BobS: Roberto.....BOBS.....ME !!!! Bytehacker: James hey !! Pamela AC14: well we knew that BobS: got another puter and got on agAin......Ron took my pentium!!!!! vcan ya believe it???? BobS: James !!!!!!! Guy B.-AC14: Oh yeah, that's a good question. Hopefully, he will come. PJ: Guys, my back is out big time. I don't need a laptop... I need a STANDup rich-c: he did say he would try to make it Pamela AC14: I don't see James, am I blind? BobS: well you can stand up next to anything PJ PJ: I think I have to leave for a bit. How long will you be here? BobS: NOW, about this DIRTY shirt we got in the mail........................... Guy B.-AC14: We'll be here until the cows tip over. PJ: Yeah, Bob, but not stand up and TYPE rich-c: maybe he's impersonating Bytehacker, since I see another entry for Ron
Rich Drushel changed username to Elanor Drushel Pamela AC14: Hi El Guy B.-AC14: Hi Elanor. Did you finish Adambomb 2? Tom OZ: Ron loaned me his laptop. FreddyMaiden: Hi Elanor BobS: tha's a spare one he has in his room.....Tom Oz is on that one George: oh, hackers in our midst Elanor Drushel: Hi, I'm here Pamela AC14: there's enuf computers in this joint to power the space station BobS: got at least 3 puters on my 1 ISP so far this year Pamela AC14: and we thank you Bob Guy B.-AC14: Same here. rich-c: yes, Pam, what are you using as an ISP? PJ: Hi Elanor! How's my gal? Pamela AC14: Bob's Tom OZ: Elanor do you really drink 1/2 gallon of milk a day? Daniel Bienvenu: Ok, I'm new here. I know there are two guys here named Rich. I see 2 or 3 pictures of Rich D... and I think I saw 1 picture of Rich C before. Elanor Drushel: I'm fine Pamela AC14: Rich C is my dad and the one with the snow on the roof George: and the list still grows Guy B.-AC14: Did you save your game? rich-c: I'm the old guy in glasses hiding around the edges Pamela AC14: Rich D is Elanor's dad and the young guy Pamela AC14: Elanor is the little one Elanor Drushel: I am almost finished with the game. Guy B.-AC14: You did save it, right? rich-c: Dr.D is the one who looks like the All-American fullback, except he smiles too much Tom OZ: The one with the milk mustache! Elanor Drushel: Yes, I saved PJ: BBL Bytehacker: Dr. D. is here in Bobs room with me Dale-AC14: See you soon PJ. Pamela AC14: don't be gone too long PJ Pamela AC14: we miss you too much Guy B.-AC14: Great. Now, let's get those aliens tomorrow. Pamela AC14: hey, where are Meeka and Judy? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm now looking at the ADAMCON #05 pictures page (Meeka web site). Tom OZ: ATOM BOMB 1! Guy B.-AC14: We'll be here PJ. rich-c: that's Alan and his crowd - think some of those are pictures I contributed Pamela AC14: they're playing Tom? Tom OZ: Yes. Elanor Drushel: they are playing Atom Bomb rich-c: that's why I'm not in them - I was behind the camera Pamela AC14: This is all Jillians fault Guy B.-AC14: The first Adam Bomb. Pamela AC14: if you look at AC13 you'll see more recent pictures Daniel FreddyMaiden: authorities would get a kick outa this conv. rich-c: yes, I think it was Jill started the Adam Bomb craze at conventions Guy B.-AC14: How Freddy? FreddyMaiden: Atom bomb rich-c: but I do believe she had a lot of support from Meeka Alan Neeley: AC05 - seems so long ago! 9 years... I guess it has:) Pamela AC14: all this talk about bombs Bytehacker: time flies eh Alan:? PJ: Back te3mporarily. can't find my &%$$$#*! coffee; going next door to get so mething to drink FreddyMaiden: blew me away! Alan Neeley: got that right! Pamela AC14: where'd you leave it PJ? Daniel Bienvenu: Bob Bear, Bob Blair, ... I don't see a picture of BobS. George: did we hit Iraq? Guy B.-AC14: Yep, that's when Jeanene got sick and couldn't come down for the banquet. FreddyMaiden: no they hit you Tom OZ: Wya did it! PJ: You guys DID get the pix I sent you, right? There's a good one of the Drushel family rich-c: BobS is the one so tall his head sticks out the top of the picture Guy B.-AC14: That for sure. Pamela AC14: probably wearing a ball cap Dale-AC14: Jillian did a seminar on Adma Bomb 2 at AC007 I think. And today she started playing Adam Bomb 1. BobS: AND Bob is handsome TOO
(BobS smiles) rich-c: Dale, you're going to have to explain to Daniel how the Supergmaes work Pamela AC14: aren't you a tad prejudiced on the subject Bob? George: BOMBS AWAY
(Everyone laughs mockingly at BobS) FreddyMaiden: what Bobs away? Daniel Bienvenu: There is no Album somewhere? Dale-AC14: Daniel, have you looked at my Mayan adventure notes? rich-c: it's OK, son Doug calls bob "shorty"
moved to room Meeting Place Elanor Drushel: I think I should finish playing Atom Bomb 2. I'm almost done. Daniel Bienvenu: Mayan adventure note? did you update the web page? FreddyMaiden: Rich is that for 'no comment' Pamela AC14: it'll be there in the morning, Elanor Bytehacker: ADAM Bomb will be reserved for my next life Pamela AC14: who's our mystery guest? Guy B.-AC14: I'm looking foward to see you finish Elanor.
FreddyMaiden left chat session
moved to room Meeting Place George: TARGET: SADDAM rich-c: should be Bair or james Dale-AC14: No, but Ièm wondering if you tried the tools listed thereÉ rich-c: or now, maybe both
changed username to FredK. Bytehacker: can log out from a machine where I didn't log in? Pamela AC14: welcome Fred Bytehacker: wanna whack Ron rich-c: I see you've shortened the ahndle, Fred PJ: I love you ALL!! I can't stay longer, but I wish I could. I have GOT to make it a priority to get back online. Daniel Bienvenu: hello Guy B.-AC14: Hi Fred.
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changed username to james Elanor Drushel: Bye FredK.: tks .....dunno what hpnd Bytehacker: James! james: morning all. Pamela AC14: James! good morning! Daniel Bienvenu: finally, I found a picture of BobS Guy B.-AC14: Bye PJ, glad you made it tonight. Take care now.
(Daniel Bienvenu smiles) George: Hi James rich-c: see you soon PJ - because we're taking that as a promise Bytehacker: now we have a truly international chat FredK.: Bye PJ and HI James james: i'm actually working for the next hour. will people still be around in an hour? Pamela AC14: g'nite PJ - hugs and kisses
Take care PJ!. Daniel Bienvenu: bye PJ rich-c: welcome james Guy B.-AC14: Hi James, we were just talking about you. FredK.: oh yes do we hug you too for official closure? james: hi rich - will people still be here in an hour? PJ: I hope all you guys will gather here regularly. And I really had a ball. XXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOO BobS: probalby Pamela AC14: not usually, but we never get to see PJ PJ: Yeah, gimme HUGS!!!! :) FredK.: Construction noise again James?
Elanor Drushel changed username to Rich Drushel Guy B.-AC14: Every Wednesday night. Bytehacker: Wednesday nights PJ..... 9 pm. Eastern Pamela AC14: HUGS! Murray: XXXOOOO PJ Rich Drushel: PJ, I'm back...bye! Dale-AC14: See you PJ. Come back soon rich-c: hard to tell james, it's half past ten here which is pushing it Bytehacker: glad you could make it PJ HUgGGZZZ james: no, it's sunday, so i'm teaching for an hour then done for the day. FredK.: Hugs Rich Drushel: PJ, I'm back...bye! Guy B.-AC14: We miss you here, PJ. Pamela AC14: c'mon we'll still be on at midnite Rich Drushel: HUGS!!!!! HLM-AC14: bye PJ james: i'll check on in an hour, if people are here, great, if not.. i'll see you on at the next regular chat. Pamela AC14: don't forgetJames james: gotta go, student is waiting. Guy B.-AC14: We should be here. Pamela AC14: hugs to you too rich-c: well see how it works out james, conventions are secial james: *poof*
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Bytehacker requested to ban Ron-AC14
rich-c confirmed ban
Rich Drushel confirmed ban Pamela AC14: who's our undefined?
Tom OZ confirmed ban Guy B.-AC14: Good question. George: What was that?
BobS confirmed ban rich-c: Iabout the only one who hasnt checked in is Bair Pamela AC14: Bair, is that you? BobS: RON MITCHELL get the HIYT OFF Tom OZ: I confess it was me. First time user mistakes. Bytehacker: I'm gone....but live on as Bytehackr BobS: the one and only Bob Bair ?????? Pamela AC14: you're still listed Tom BobS: well, ..... Guy B.-AC14: Got our mystery person. Tom OZ: OK Pamela AC14: plus that person came on after you showed up
BobS requested to ban <undefined>
George confirmed ban
Pamela AC14 confirmed ban
Guy B.-AC14 confirmed ban
FredK. confirmed ban
Rich Drushel confirmed ban
Murray confirmed ban
Tom OZ confirmed ban Pamela AC14: did that dump anyone?
Bytehacker confirmed ban Guy B.-AC14: Ok, he's off. Rich Drushel: My chat window screen is blinking-blinking-blinking... rich-c: the undefined takes a while to be replaced with the real name BobS: WHACKED that sucker !!!!! Tom OZ: Yes I guess I dumped two users. Pamela AC14: not good Rich Daniel Bienvenu: ok, I found a picture of Elanor. Are you younger than me? Guy B.-AC14: Well, he's been bushwhacked. BobS: maybe it is a strobe window Murray: Wierd things going on!!! Bytehacker: banished Pamela AC14: She's elever, Daniel Pamela AC14: sorry, eleven Guy B.-AC14: Pam, she's 12. Pamela AC14: oops Guy B.-AC14: Now that is. Tom OZ: Going on 16. Rich Drushel: Elanor is 12.5 :-) rich-c: onze, douze, little difference Guy B.-AC14: There you have it. Pamela AC14: how old are you Daniel? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm old... 27 Pamela AC14: not that old FredK.: hey same here rich-c: about the same as Dale then Guy B.-AC14: Hey, he's one of us. George: i'm lost BobS: OLD ??????? Dat is ery truly yong Bytehacker: I'm not that old either, relative to Moses FredK.: Adam must have marked the 27 age somewhere Guy B.-AC14: How can you be lost George/ Rich Drushel: I was 28 at my first ADAMcon (4, in Cleveland). George: easy Bytehacker: pushing 59 Bytehacker: and it's pushing back
Dale-AC14 confirmed ban rich-c: so you're a year or two ahead of Pamela then FredK.: Rich D maybe I will be too....
Dale-AC14 confirmed ban BobS: 59 !!!!!!! ya old fart !!!!!! Bytehacker: tell me about it Pamela AC14: Rich has two years on me Guy B.-AC14: I was 33 when I attended my first Adamcon and that was 03. Murray: i'm 51 young at heart!! rich-c: it's OK, young man, one of these days... Pamela AC14: Right Rich? Pamela AC14: or is it three? Guy B.-AC14: That was Adamcon 03 in South Bend, IN. George: send comments to GWahl53937@aol.com FredK.: What year Guy? Guy B.-AC14: 1991 Alan Neeley: AC03 ahhhh the year I was inducted into the Adam Gallery of Honour - I remember it well... rich-c: and so you should, Alan, for tht reason Guy B.-AC14: Oh yeah, and we had around 79 of us that year. FredK.: 79!! BobS: it was definitely biggere then rich-c: hope you still have your certificate framed on the wall Alan Neeley: God Bless Mr. Rhoades! Bytehacker: now that we've all blown age thing Murray: I think that was one of the bigger bashes wasn't it Tom OZ: He had it gilded. Bytehacker: exactly Alan Guy B.-AC14: Adamcon 04 was the one we peaked at. BobS: been cutting down every year until we reached a plateau in about 1998 or so....only honest to goodness family ADAM users left...... Alan Neeley: I'm looking at the certificate right now - right next to my chrome I love ADAM sticker... rich-c: Dale, any recollection how many we had at 02? Daniel Bienvenu: err... Where is the notes about Mayan Adventure? I don't find it! FredK.: ready to learn guys!! rich-c: as it should be, Alan - Frances' and mine are also framed on the living room wall Tom OZ: You bet! Dale-AC14: Well, I'm 30 but I was only 17 at my first AdamCon. HLM-AC14: don't want to to brag but as I recall IV had 108 Bytehacker: Mine's in the snake pit Bytehacker: which is where I am also mostly Pamela AC14: how did you keep track of everyone? BobS: oh jeez Herman...you canNOT count the hotel maids !!!!! Dale-AC14: http://www.adamcon.org/~dmwick/mayan/ Bytehacker: Alan, how many did you have? Dale-AC14: I'm jsut wondering if you ever tried my cross compiling setup. Tom OZ: I hope he only counted them. HLM-AC14: smart filer beleive it or not Guy B.-AC14: I missed the first two and AC08. I should have attended that one. HLM-AC14: bullshit Daniel Bienvenu: I think I'm lost... My browser is open with the mayan adventure page... rich-c: I know the number was a disappointment - half the crowd seemed to get nosebleeds if they crossed the Mississippi HLM-AC14: fact Pamela AC14: come to Adamcon - tour North America! Bytehacker: It's true! Alan Neeley: Can't recall for sure but it seems like there were 50 or so at AC05. rich-c: but it was a seriously neat 'con, and opened the door to terrific travels on the way there and back Bytehacker: right Daniel Bienvenu: I still don't see the notes Guy B.-AC14: I think we did have that many ALan. Dale-AC14: I was never involved in the accounting of AC02. BobS: that was Ken Batchers baby wasn't it???? HLM-AC14: Even had Keith Marner and family Alan Neeley: Dale - seemed like there were slightly more than 50 at AC02 there in good ol' Canada Tom OZ: I thought that was AC04? HLM-AC14: from Great Britan Pamela AC14: now that's international FredK.: Any special highlights from this Adamcon? Guy B.-AC14: II remember we had a couple from there at 04. rich-c: it was a joint effort between Ken and I, with the Wicks and Dave Hill giving serious help BobS: could go home and look it up in my records......HERMAN....ya know I go it.... HLM-AC14: 04 is IV one in the same sir BobS: got it Tom OZ: What ever happened to the guy who was doing SmartLOGO in Japan? Pamela AC14: was that James? HLM-AC14: got the records HERE in smart filer BobS: the nl's had listings of the attendees of all of them back them Guy B.-AC14: That's James. rich-c: that's james, he's teaching now but may be back on later rich-c: have to get the laptop off my legs, it's getting too hot Guy B.-AC14: Thought I kick off my shoes. Now my feet feel better. Dale-AC14: What did we talk about yesterday. I was still pretty sleepy. BobS: ;put it on the desk there Richard rich-c: also making my hip joint hurt
(A strange smell wafts around the room)
(A dog howls in the distance) Pamela AC14: desk is too high BobS: OH, the message came thru first that Dale was pretty.....oddd me thinks Dale-AC14: We talked about how AdamServe worked with a live demo. rich-c: once on the desk, typing is difficult gmk: I thought Herman was only one "resting"
(A strange smell wafts around the room) Pamela AC14: try the footstool, Dad FredK.: great tks Dale BobS: GUY that your tootsies???/????? Bytehacker: Guess I better stay active..... screen just went blank Pamela AC14: Guy, put your shoes back on! Guy B.-AC14: I'll be back. The message log stopped. rich-c: what footstool? Alan Neeley: Dale, how do I change my email address subscribe to the coleco adam list
Guy B.-AC14 left chat session Murray: I'll say goodnight all...Happy ADAMMING all!!! Pamela AC14: don't you have one?
moved to room Meeting Place Dale-AC14: I gave a seminar on how to write Interactive Fiction (as a basis for game design).
changed username to Guy B.
Murray left chat session rich-c: night Murray see you tomorrow Pamela AC14: g'nite Murray, see you in the morning Dale-AC14: The morning we spent on Adam Bomb 2 by Steve Pitman software. Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. Alan Neeley: g'nite Murray! FredK.: Goodnite Murray BobS: nite Murray Tom OZ: Talk to you all tomorrow! Dale-AC14: Goodnight Murray. HLM-AC14: nite Murray Pamela AC14: nite Tom Guy B.: See you tomorrow Murray. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Murray! Pamela AC14: see you in the a.m. Guy B.: Bye Tom. HLM-AC14: and Tom BobS: and NOW they are playing the FIRST adambomb game......all three of 'em Bytehacker: nite to those who are nighting rich-c: you packing it in too, Tpm? Dale-AC14: I'll be posting my notes on game design after AdamCon. rich-c: night, Tom Bytehacker: sounds good Dale Daniel Bienvenu: Dale - ok!
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Rich Drushel left chat session Dale-AC14: Guy showed off is new DCOPY32 -- which is a disk copying utlitiy for the AdamEm emulator, to simplify copying disk images from Adam media. Pamela AC14: Dad, you don't have a footstool? BobS: use up them hours Richard!!!!!! Bytehacker: Alan, you got any working ADAM CPU's in your cache? Daniel Bienvenu: dcopy32? Daniel Bienvenu: 32bits version of dcopy? Guy B.: There's a little flaw in that which I'll fix when I get back home. rich-c: well, Sprint isn't so generous, only got 8 hours Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) oh ya... at least 15-20 Dale-AC14: Alan, I can do it right now while I'm thinking about it. HLM-AC14: getting ready for 15 Ron rich-c: and Frances had been burnoing them surfing the Aminet Bytehacker: we'll talk later Bytehacker: I got 5, but not sure of status Pamela AC14: oh yeah, blame it on Mom Alan Neeley: Dale - please change to firstname.lastname@example.org Guy B.: Ron, your notebook is available. Dale-AC14: Guy, what's the URL for that? FredK.: Dale tks fr the briefing, will look fr notes....
moved to room Meeting Place Alan Neeley: I'm unable to send emails to the coleco adm list with my prodigy account. I can only receive Guy B.: www.geocities.com/bonag_3\vb\vbscript.htm Bytehacker: Noted Alan's e-mail address
changed username to zonker Bytehacker: ZONK zonker: yes?
moved to room Meeting Place Alan Neeley: Zonk has entered the building! Hi Zonk! Pamela AC14: hi, Zonker! Bytehacker: hey man! BobS: the mighty ZONKMAN !!!! rich-c: ZONKER111 zonker: howdy alan! BobS: duck everybody FredK.: Im going to try to download an emulator. George: I got news i think we just hit Iraq rich-c: where you been, good buddy? Guy B.: try again www.geocities.com\bonag_3\Vb/vbscript.htm HLM-AC14: hello son how are you Dale-AC14: Zonker! You misssed PJ. She says she might be back on after a stretch. Pamela AC14: what are you throwing, Bob? Guy B.: Zonker, long time no see. Have Murray here in my room. zonker: wellll...truth to tell....it was pj that called me! :) zonker: guy, let murray alone. rich-c: good on her - we sure have missed hearing from you
(Guy B. kicks zonker) Bytehacker: great! zonker: jeeez, haven't been in chat so long that i'm not used to reading all this here stuff. BobS: throwing towels at you Pam Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) kinda cool eh? Guy B.: That's for getting too personal, Zonk. rich-c: takes a while, but you'll get used to it HLM-AC14: get used to it... its waiting on you zonker: pamela! now just WHAT does bob USUALLY throw? why, b.s. of course.... FredK.: zoiks!
(A strange smell wafts around the room) Pamela AC14: can you toss another bath towel? we could use one rich-c: meet George from Philadelphia, Daniel from Quebec City, and Fred from Montreal Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) Herm - luv ya man :) Pamela AC14: I'[m in the line of fire, I like to know these things Daniel Bienvenu: My Story : I'm Daniel Bienvenu. I was too young to play the ColecoVision games the first time but I decided to learn and work very hard to do some games for this game system. In 2000, John Dondzila helped me to release one of my Coleco creation : DACMAN. Now, I'm looking to a simple way to test my games quickly. There is no RAMCART so I need to use a floppy disk but my Adam disk drive doesn't work. So, each time I program new Coleco game I don't know if the result will work on a real Coleco because I use only the emulators. zonker: hmmmm....now before i make a fool of myself(pauses for obvious remarks) Dale-AC14: I've added you Alan. What was your old address? BobS: I am civILized.....I usuallam a quiet shy person......... zonker: how do i send a private msg? type first,THEN hit send private>? Guy B.: We are waiting Zonker. Speak! Pamela AC14: prove it, Bob George: Huh?
moved to room Meeting Place HLM-AC14: no highlite user on right then send private
changed username to Rich Drushel Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) Old address was email@example.com it is still alive - I just can't send mail from it. And when I was trying to use the SLCneeleys it was kicking a lot of stuff back... zonker: oh, sorry, i thought "bob s." meant bob slopsema...but if your quiet and shy, must be someone else.... Daniel Bienvenu: Sorry, it takes me many minutes to write this little notes about me.
moved to room Meeting Place Rich Drushel: Back after a browser crash...and there is Zonker!!!!
changed username to Rob Rob: hi all Pamela AC14: how did you crash it Rich? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm new so.. you don't know who I am. zonker: (PRIVATE) testing rich-c: whoops - is the Rob CP/M just came in? HLM-AC14: (PRIVATE) like this sir FredK.: Daniel its o.k. it took me a while to read it. Guy B.: Hi Rob. Pamela AC14: HI Rob Rich Drushel: I'm not sure, Pam. Bytehacker: Rob Friedman? BobS: Zonker you big BSer Alan Neeley: Always good to see new blood carrying on the ADAM tradition there Daniel! zonker: doctor d!!! Rob: any other???? Rich Drushel: Exploder just started running slower and slower and the hard disk was thrashing and thrashing and then it froze. Bytehacker: noo Rob: on the phone with PJ rt now Rich Drushel: I had to kill it. Dale-AC14: (PRIVATE) Highlight the person you want to send to, and hit Send Pamela AC14: that must have been your flashing then Rich Drushel: I'm back with Netscape, give it a try now. BobS: thought you kicked the ol' bucket Rob.........haven' seen ya in ages rich-c: the real Rob - the gang's all here Dale-AC14: Hightlight the person you want to send to and hit send private message. BobS: how's Sue????? Rich Drushel: Hello Mr. Friedman! FredK.: Alan just need a little or alot of mentora rich-c: sure a testimony to who PJ is in the Adam community Guy B.: Been a long time Rob. How are you? Rob: sue's fine.., and the reort of my death was greatly exagerated Rob: report rich-c: Zonker, Rob. Alan - who next? Bytehacker: yup zonker: tee-hee. pj must be laying down the law to ALL us slackers. Guy B.: You bet she has. Rich Drushel: Zonker, did she phone you to make you login tonight> Bytehacker: fer sure eh? Rob: all we need is john HLM-AC14: hello Rob BobS: that's good...I mean about being dead...... ;-) Rob: hiya hoiman zonker: guy cousinae? Dale-AC14: Alan, I need to do some maintenance of the mailing list. I'll get it fixed up. Alan Neeley: She didn't have to call me - I could just sense her wrath! :) Rob: or tony m Bytehacker: haven't heard from Mr. Cousineau in a very long time Zonk BobS: HI Herm zonker: yup, rich, i'm ashamed to say she did. though it was nice to hear her voice. Rich Drushel: :-) Well, we miss hearing from you too, Zonker. Rich Drushel: Hope all is well with you and yours. zonker: hiya rob f. Bytehacker: Had lunch with Tony in Edmonton around 1998 give or take Rob: who isnt acrtually there??? HLM-AC14: Hello Bob rich-c: yes, now we need to get her to phone Guy c and Tony M Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) Mr Friedman I presume? zonker: actually, wouldnt it be easier to say who IS there? Guy B.: Zonker, you need to come on here every now and then so we know at least you're alive and well. Rob: (PRIVATE) damn straigt i am Rich Drushel: Me...and Drushel v2.0, aka Elanor. Bytehacker: Left my organizer at home, otherwise I would rich-c: well, some were in before you came, and logged out Daniel Bienvenu: Do you plan to do an Album? Picture + Name + Hobby + etc. ? Rich Drushel: (Joan and other 3 girls are at home)
left chat session Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) Good to see old friend... Daniel Bienvenu: It will be great to see an ADAMCON album Dale-AC14: Rob, I was in New York (day trip only), but I couldn't find you phone number. Rich Drushel: Joan actually phoned on the 2nd line in the room just a few minutes ago. zonker: okay, so how many at the con this year? Bytehacker: Bob? Guy B.: About 18. Rob: hey someone just called me old Dale-AC14: I installed some of my software forDigital Print ordering at Adorama. Pamela AC14: eighteen including Wick version 1.0 Rob: aint that old.. only 47 zonker: not YOU rob! :) Rich Drushel: She took the younger 2 to a Medieval Fair with jousting today...and elephant rides... BobS: Daniel goto http://adam.hollowdreams.com and check out the ADAMpeople from previous con's...this years' pages are forthcoming Rob: pj says she will call anyone yo want if you give her the damn number Alan Neeley: oops couldn't have been me! HLM-AC14: like hell Rich Drushel: Christina (eldest) didn't want any part of that, though... HLM-AC14: 47 plus BobS: HEY Rich, you are SOECIAL Pamela AC14: is that a quote Rob? Rob: yes Pamela AC14: thought so Rich Drushel: Me, social? Nah, I have stage fright. Unless I can talk in funny voices (like today when Dale and I read his adventure game script). rich-c: Pam is my daughter, Rob - dont think you'ved met Dale-AC14: My new baby Jeffrey ius here at the 'Con. zonker: oh, thanks guy, didn't see the answer til now....18 is about where it's at anymore, right? Pamela AC14: btw, allow me to introduce my self properly - I am Richard and Frances Clee's daughter - I'm here with my husband Russell Alan Neeley: Quick... Who remembers their Compuserve account #? Guy B.: Anytime ZOnker. Rob: 76702.417 Rich Drushel: Never had one :-) Alan Neeley: 74756,1104 Rich Drushel: And I'm still firstname.lastname@example.org Guy B.: Me neither. BobS: naw, if Pam had met ya Rob, she WOULD remember ya
Bytehacker changed username to Murray Daniel Bienvenu: yeah I see the ADAMCON #5 pictures... it's like an album but I'm talking about a page with one picture of each one with name and description. Rob: duh hey I'm STILL a sysop on tehre zonker: hwy, how can pam be your daughter,rob? Rich Drushel: ROTFL! Murray: Hi Zonker BobS: 72117,4004 Guy B.: Murray's back. HLM-AC14: Pam is Rich-c daughter Pamela AC14: ??? Rich Drushel: Who can remember their logins to the various BBSes? Dale-AC14: 71065,2566 rich-c: not Rob's, mine Rob: beats me.. we dont have any kids Guy B.: Zonker, pay attention. HLM-AC14: IU DO Rich Drushel: I was TP39 at Herman's Trading Post. zonker: hey, murray, lets see your front. Rob: wildcat?? Rich Drushel: 36 at George's ADAM eXchange. Pamela AC14: welll at least Dad is still claiming me HLM-AC14: zonk is 8 zonker: zonker password_boris HLM-AC14: Alan is 2 Murray: My front? Dale-AC14: And that number is in octal. Rich Drushel: And on ADAMlink of Utah...hmmm... HLM-AC14: priveledged info sir HLM-AC14: top secret zonker: tp8 at hermans, can't remember the rest. rich-c: why, is ALU still up? Rich Drushel: Sorry Alan, I can't remember my login. HLM-AC14: same on all except sysop Alan Neeley: ALU up? right... Actually the HD is still there. Have no idea if it would work... zonker: can anyone remember how drunk alan,herman and pj were at adamcon...fill in the blank.... Rich Drushel: Alan, you should dump it out, the data that is. Dale-AC14: Rob, I was in NYC this month but couldn't remember where you worked. HLM-AC14: ITP last year Alan at AC13 Rob: dale.. you were Rich Drushel: Last ADAMcon, Herman and George brought their BBS systems and let us login and read all the old messages. BobS: Rob....WORK ???????? Alan Neeley: I was so drunk.... (blank is all I can fill in) Daniel Bienvenu: RichD : Did you plan to continue the ADAM Technical manual? Rob: AT the store!!! Murray: I'd better go getting late niters all Rich Drushel: It was a real treat...I'd love to see that for ALU, if possible. Lots of history! Rob: we had lunch down the block! Pamela AC14: nite Murray rich-c: night Murray Guy B.: Killed a couple of small bugs in my room. zonker: good night murray. Rich Drushel: Daniel, yes, just got sidetracked with my retyping efforts. Rob: nite murray Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit murray Guy B.: Bye Murray. Rich Drushel: Bye Murray! Dale-AC14: I was at 18th St and 6th ave (Adorama). Rob: pj says goodnite rich-c: CIA or FBI, Guy? HLM-AC14: nite Murry Rich Drushel: HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! zonker: sayyyy....any ex adam bbs sysops have any of the old private mail left? :) Dale-AC14: Goodnight PJ. FredK.: Nite Murray Rob: adorama?????? you SOB... ya coundt visit????? if yo asked the comptuer guys they would know me!!! Pamela AC14: is PJ still on the phone Rob? Guy B.: Neither. Small crawling bugs. zonker: guy, don't refer to murray as a small bug. Rob: yes she is Dale-AC14: How far are you from there?
(Guy B. slaps zonker playfully) Rob: 4 blocks rich-c: well send her another round of hugs - she rates them Rob: 21st btwn 6 and 7 Pamela AC14: HUGS! Rob: she says back atcha zonker: (zonker falls to floor screaming in pain) Rich Drushel: even more HUGS!!!!! Rob: she needed that Dale-AC14: I was afraid of that. It was a quick visit. (6 hours, then I flew back out of town)... and I couldn't find your phone number. Pamela AC14: noow Zonk, you nd Guy play nice Guy B.: Now, I didn't slap you that hard. Get up. Rob: btw did the hershys melt? zonker: pam! save me!! guy is trying to hit me in the head witha brick.... Dale-AC14: Nope, t5hey are in good shape.
Murray changed username to Ron Guy B.: I don't have a brick. Dale-AC14: A door prize is the official plan for the hugs and kisses. Ron: right BobS: Pj's hugs & Kisses are a door prize...... rich-c: sorry, PJ's won that already Pamela AC14: (Pam hugs Guy and steals th brick) BobS: as well as her dirty tshirt Dale-AC14: Rob, I installed my online digital print software in their lab. Guy B.: Thanks Pam. Rob: dale.. you should come by who are you with now???
(<s> reboots <o>'s computer remotely.) BobS: OUCH Dale-AC14: opengraphics.com zonker: whew! just in the nick of time, pam. you women-folk sure are devious. BobS: he's with Jillian.......Jeffery's mom...... Rich Drushel: Back in a few minutes...gotta attend to the time-lapse camera in the session room. Pamela AC14: gotta holdl my own with allthis testosteron
(BobS groans loudly) HLM-AC14: be nice Zonk Ron: Somebody fax me a Diet Cokd Ron: Coke
(Guy B. gives Ron a can of Diet Coke.) Ron: tks Guy Dale-AC14: If it wern't for the fact that my company has about twice as many projects as we can do, I would have. rich-c: yeah, don't have Meeka or Judy running interference tonight zonker: pam, i'm too damned old for testosteron! jee, almost as old as your dad.
(BobS gives Ron a can of Diet Coke.) Pamela AC14: I noticed that - too busy bombing things Dale-AC14: I will email you before I'm in NYC next. Ron: Judy, Meeka, come and say hello to your public Ron: they're clamoring rich-c: like, 72 next week, ZonK? Guy B.: Ron has two Diet Cokes. Pamela AC14: I'm the only female here - someone has to keep you guys in line Ron: Nothing as unsatisfying as virtual Diet Coke Guy B.: Oh-oh. The gig's up. zonker: hmmm....how did such a nice young man ever get to be 72? :) no wait, i don't wanna know... Pamela AC14: there's a bottle in the conference room, Ron Ron: brb BobS: hello, hello, hello form the gals playing Adambomb 1 Pamela AC14: or there was George: What happened to Judy? Pamela AC14: she's stuk in room 128 zonker: you don't wanna know, george. BobS: judy, meeka, and jillian are playing games rich-c: the ladies are all playing Adam Bomb (a game) in hte conference room George: and Meeka zonker: bob has his little secrets, ya know. FredK.: I see her in the sky with diamonds FredK.: that was Lucie! zonker: i see her in disguise....with glasses. Rob: soi how many are at the CON? BobS: le' bomb game rich-c: well, yes, lots of them in Adam Bomb Pamela AC14: 18 Daniel Bienvenu: I was looking in the ColecoVision catalog (silver cover) and I see some games never released : SideTrak, Rip Cord, Spectar, ... Daniel Bienvenu: I started to do my own version of Spectar but I decided to stop the project. rich-c: right, Daniel rich-c: actually james is our member who has researched thm most Rob: does that include spouses? Ron: nite Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Ron zonker: no, that's RIGHT, not night! BobS: mouses????? Ron: dorme bien Pamela AC14: meese FredK.: i think blouses Guy B.: Got some Diet coke. BobS: mousesin plurality Ron: me too Pamela AC14: give some to Ron zonker: houses? rich-c: souris? Guy B.: He's got some already. Pamela AC14: mice in hice, Right Dad? Dale-AC14: I want the myserty game from the side of the box. BobS: found him some Dale-AC14: And the horse racing game. Rob: oy vey iz meer FredK.: thats Rice!! Ron: sounds good to me Rob zonker: that's nice Pamela AC14: only in China Daniel Bienvenu: Someone here can tell me where are the Exidy's copyrights ? Who have these copyrights? zonker: you people are up too late. Ron: Zonker, can you say Comox?
(Dale-AC14 reboots Guy B.'s computer remotely.) Pamela AC14: never zonker: i MIGHT even be able to DRIVE it, ron. Guy B.: Ouch! Ron: that would be SUPER sir HLM-AC14: not like we used to Zonk rich-c: as far as I know, Daniel. Exidy is still in business Guy B.: SHould have done that to the P75, Dale. BobS: Zonker so you know where comox IS???? zonker: beg me....:) Dale-AC14: I guess so. Ron: I intend to Daniel Bienvenu: Exidy still in business? .. I don't find any new games made by this company. Ron: :) Daniel Bienvenu: after 1986 zonker: yeah, just go to vancouver and turn uh, left, no right..... HLM-AC14: we are begging Pamela AC14: swim first Guy B.: Rich, I think Williams and Bally are still making arcade games. Haven't seen any from Exidy since the 80's. rich-c: maybe they got bought by someone else, then, or went into other business Dale-AC14: I don't know about Exidy, but Telegames bought the copyrights to all Coleco branded games. Ron: Rich Drushel was talking about building a raft from west coast driftwood. Perhaps you could join him zonker: true, a brisk swim accross the channel to arrive refreshed. zonker: ONLY if HE rows. Pamela AC14: 'zactly Ron: :) Alan Neeley: hehehe Daniel Bienvenu: Without more informations, I think I can't continue my project. Dale-AC14: Daniel, they were primarily a coin-op game maker. I suspect they were bought by Bally/Williams around then. Dale-AC14: But it is a wild guess. Ron: Not far from SLC Alan zonker: dang, why else do we have these younger adamites any way? rich-c: just sort of paddle from island to island, Zonk Guy B.: That's what I thought. Ron: (hint hint)
(S enjoys the flowers.) HLM-AC14: to remind us of what we forgot rich-c: problem is, we never know who is defendeing their copyrights and who isn't zonker: hmmmm....alan couldn't get to seattle, but CAN get to comox???? :) don't hit me, alan. BobS: and Herman done forgot a lot!!!!!!
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changed username to Doug S Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.geocities.com/newcoleco/unreleased/spectar.html HLM-AC14: BE NICE rich-c: hello Guy B.: There's Doug. rich-c: doug Alan Neeley: hum huh? that one flew right over my head Pamela AC14: hi Doug zonker: yeah, right, alan..... FredK.: Hi BobS: Doug!!!!!! Ron: :( zonker: oh,lord....not dough slopsema???? zonker: er, doug rich-c: alan, zonk: Daniel has writtine about 20 Colecovisiion games Daniel Bienvenu: If you can go to this URL you will see my Spectar project looks exactly like the screenshot in the ColecoVision catalog Guy B.: Yep, you guessed right Zonk. Ron: nope Zonk you were right the first time Dale-AC14: The thing about most 80's games is that even the owner doesn't really remember that they own the rights. Pamela AC14: freudian slip, zonk? Daniel Bienvenu: This is why I don't know if I have rights to continue or not
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: especially when the company has been sold Rob: off the phone with pat
moved to room Meeting Place zonker: i thought doug was old enough to tell his ol' man to &*$# himself and bail....
changed username to Doug S.
changed username to james james: afternoon all rich-c: welcome back james Daniel Bienvenu: When John Dondzila convince me to release DACMAN in carts I was affraid. Pamela AC14: WB James Guy B.: Welcome back, James! FredK.: Hey James! Daniel Bienvenu: hello James Ron: International are we again Alan Neeley: probably should start running after that too! james: so how is the convention going? wish i could have made it as i:ve yet to go to one BobS: do it Daniel rich-c: zonk, you need a Japanese translation of SmartLogo? james is your man Guy B.: Going very well. Last day is tomorrow.
Rob changed username to Rob F. james: cool BobS: you James!!!!! Ron: sigh james: hey bob Rob F.: sonds like a lot of fun zonker: oh! THAT james! hello, sir. what time is it in the land of the midnight sun? Ron: James DeCarlo Dale-AC14: Daniel, do you know that a bunch of tyhe pages on your web site say "Whoops! We can't find your page! "? james: it's about 12:25 in the afternoon rich-c: we're a big happy family by now, Rob FredK.: out again BobS: James....next summer in Comox area of Victoria Island......... BobS: closer to home Ron: Hey Bob, a bug just crawled out of your computer
FredK. left chat session james: that i might be able to swing if i can work it in a trip back home
moved to room Meeting Place Ron: honest
changed username to FredK zonker: good one, bob Pamela AC14: only if he doesn't take a side trip to Ottawa Daniel Bienvenu: Yes, I know.. it's because I started to do the frame version without adding the missing web pages zonker: and james? there is probably a direct flight into vancouver....comox not far.... Daniel Bienvenu: test
FredK left chat session Ron: good point Zonk james: yeah, i always fly in and out of vancouver on my way to and from ottawa/osaka Pamela AC14: your here Daniel zonker: ottawa? i don't get it Pamela AC14: his parents are in Ottawa james: next year is adam's 20th anniversary, isn't it? Daniel Bienvenu: hello? 1..2.. test? my chat session doesn't work? Ron: Zonker, James used to be a member of the ADAM User Friendly Group james: sorry zonker, yeah, my family is in ottawa Daniel Bienvenu: shit! BobS: KILL IT...not the puter just the bug Ron: at the tender age of ???? 13? zonker: oh. see i just GOT to joing these new chat things that everyone is talking about,. Alan Neeley: (PRIVATE) it's working... james: yeah i was 13ish Rob F.: hey went to that unreleased site... what is this about colecovision games on CD?? Guy B.: Exit out and sign in again Daniel.
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: you are coming in on our screens, Daniel Ron: He was a member before I was a member james: which seems like a very long time ago now
changed username to FredK. Ron: in a galazy far, far away Daniel Bienvenu: be right back zonker: yeah, i knew that back story, knew he was in japan, etc, just didn't know the ottawa connection. zonker: sounds like a spy thriller.
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela AC14: okay Dan
changed username to newcoleco james: we should do something special for adam's 20th Ron: a good suggestion James Guy B.: A big cake for starters. Pamela AC14: any ideas?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: didn't Dr.D say this year is Colecovision's 20th? james: 1983-2003 - in japan they have a coming of age ceremony at 20 and it's the legal drinking age. zonker: yes, for adams's 20th each of you should send me 100 dollars.... james: 1982? really? Pamela AC14: that's Rich's department
changed username to Daniel Bienvenu George: five more first Guy B.: Not to you Zonker, unless you want to host it. james: is he going by the chinese calendar where the count back to the date of conception? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm back... but I lost all the previous messages zonker: hell, i'll promise anything for 100 bux Pamela AC14: you didn't miss much Daniel FredK.: Same here Guy B.: 1982 when Colecovision came out. 1983 is when Adam came out. james: that's what i thought George: where am I? rich-c: does thaqt include AC15 attendance, Zonk? Pamela AC14: talk is cheap Zonker zonker: george, you are right there. Alan Neeley: and so is Zonk. hehehe George: it's slow Rob F.: guys gonna get going... good to see all of you... < yes i still have my website on Freedomland zonker: are you kidding? they'll never get a bunch of maverick adam users together for a con.... rich-c: tangled in about six dozen threads all going at the same time zonker: not to think that they wou.d do it for 15 years! :) Pamela AC14: g'nite Rob Guy B.: Glad you came by, Rob. See you soon. Alan Neeley: See ya Rob! Rob F.: zie gesunt james: i'm surprised scott isn't around zonker: good to see ya, rob. rich-c: come baCK SOON rOB - NEXT wED WOULD BE FINE ;-) FredK.: Bye Rob Pamela AC14: me too actually - did anyone warn him? Daniel Bienvenu: I think you can tell me if there is a way to do a simple vector game like Asteroid. I think it's the only classic videogame never done for the ColecoVision and I wanted to do one but I need some informations. FredK.: auf wiedersehen Rob F.: u 2 alan, bart, and all others Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Rob! james: lol rich - UseD CApsLOck KEy foR SAle? George: what is thiis threads you are talking about? Rob F.: sewing Rob F.: needle rich-c: farn dingers zonker: no james, that's just rich having an "episode" james: lol HLM-AC14: lets all go to 15 it will probably take me, zonk and Alan to get one up and running rich-c: of conversation, George Rob F.: thimble Dale-AC14: Bye for now Rob. james: i've started having "senior moments" at the tender age of 27. the future looks blissfully blank. Rob F.: poof!
Rob F. left chat session zonker: herman, only if you have it in florida. :) Alan Neeley: Don't worry James it happens to all of us eventually... Daniel Bienvenu: Ok, I'm always talking about games... it's because I like programing and playing games. Pamela AC14: that's what having kids dose to you James james: i'm sure teaching 10 hours a day has nothing to do with it George: i don't understand. how does it work? rich-c: the laptop has a difficult keyboard at best, and it's on too high a table Pamela AC14: oops, does james: i'll be right back - going back over to the house (i'm at the school now) HLM-AC14: why Florida so you can drive with us again that was fun james: anyone who's curious about my school: http://www.folkwolf.net/~james james: *poof*
james left chat session FredK.: James can you drop yr e-mail addr. again? zonker: yeah, rich, i find as i get older, i'm making excuses too. :) Daniel Bienvenu: Because I program my Coleco games in C (not in ASM) I will not be able to do a vector game or a smooth sidescrolling game. rich-c: he wiil be back, Fred Dale-AC14: Daniel, I've gotta make some time to chat with you then. Guy B.: Boy, he sures leaves mighty quickly. Guy B.: Well, be right back.
Guy B. left chat session BobS: be good Rob
moved to room Meeting Place Ron: Rob, good?
changed username to Guy B. zonker: can someone who is undefined actually enter a room? Dale-AC14: On the Adam, the recommendation is for fast animation to use character mapped games. Guy B.: Back again.
Doug S. left chat session Pamela AC14: yes but we pick on them until they become real people Dale-AC14: Otherwise there is a it of a bottle neck updating the screen... Ron: yup Zonker, until undefined assigns him/herself a name HLM-AC14: DALE` Dale-AC14: but maybe. zonker: or until they run screeming from the chat room Ron: semi-materialized Dale-AC14: HERMAN` Ron: :0 HLM-AC14: u answered zonker: herm,dale....quit yelling at each other. Pamela AC14: scotty, we need more power Dale-AC14: so I did. Guy B.: Anyone want an old Mac Performa? I have part of it here, the rest in my trunk. Has software. HLM-AC14: had to wake him up Dale-AC14: Did you need something Herman? Ron: performa what? zonker: i see that dale and herman are as brilliant at conversation as ever. Guy B.: Mac Performa. Ron: (get thee behind me Satan) HLM-AC14: no you answered Zonk about undefined Ron: there are Performa 580, 630, 6100, and more zonker: gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
moved to room Meeting Place Daniel Bienvenu: Rich About twwmca... do you plan to continue? Guy B.: Ron, when you come back down. I'll show it to you.
changed username to Rich Drushel gmk: Ron,you got enough in the snake pit Ron: ok Daniel Bienvenu: Dale - I will be very happy to talk about game with you Dale-AC14: Wrong Rich, I think. Ron: I KNOW Rich Drushel: NetZero logged me out while I was away... Pamela AC14: rich, where did you go?
moved to room Meeting Place Ron: but a poor homeless Mac....??? zonker: ron, be careful going into guy's room....he's gonna show it to you.
changed username to james Pamela AC14: how very rude james: back rich-c: welcome back james Daniel Bienvenu: Rich - So you don't see my message about twwmca? Ron: I am sleeping in Guys room Guy B.: Dr D. Netzero will warn you if you haven't done anything for awhile. Dale-AC14: Even I'm temped by a homeless Mac. Pamela AC14: can you take it on the plane Ron? Rich Drushel: I went to the session room to power down the time-lapse camera and dump the photos out of my digital camera. HLM-AC14: he just left here carring our secrets Dale-AC14: I gotta get a bigger apartment. Ron: he's the only one that can put up with my snoring FredK.: James can you drop yr e-mail add. again? zonker: hey, ti was GUY not me who was rude. Guy B.: Me! zonker: jeez, then net zero would be very busy around me.... Ron: probably, but would be excess baggage Ron: Pam james: sure james: it's email@example.com rich-c: I can tell you Sprint PPI is not at all eager to see you log off Pamela AC14: well then how ar e you going to get it home? Daniel Bienvenu: Rich - I have a digital camera too. ( Fujifilm ) FredK.: tks much! BobS: MacInslash Perorma james: np, drop me a line anytime, i'm very friendly. Rich Drushel: This one is an old Kodak. zonker: kids while its early here, i'm gonna bail.... james: someone stinky here needs a change. brb. rich-c: oh, a new ISP, James? Rich Drushel: It belongs to the robot lab. zonker: got some honey do projects on the boil. Rich Drushel: Zonker, thanks so much for stopping by tonight! FredK.: you seem so James Ron: Zonker, glad you made it. We'll talk Rich Drushel: You are appreciated, Z. james: rich, i've had flat rate isdn access for about a year now Guy B.: Bye Zonker, don't forget about us on Wednesday nights. james: meaning i can be online as much as i want james: brb Alan Neeley: See ya Bart! HLM-AC14: well it was good to hear from you sir Rich Drushel: At home I have nice ADSL, it's being away from home that makes me need a little dialup stuff. zonker: see ya guys. Pamela AC14: glad to see you Zonker - we miss your personal touch zonker: 5 zonker: 4 zonker: 3 zonker: 2 zonker: 1 rich-c: come back soon, Zonk Daniel Bienvenu: Bart? .. the same Bart I saw in pictures of a previous ADAMCON? Dale-AC14: TTYL Zonker. zonker: gone! gmk: nite bart HLM-AC14: nite Zonk
zonker left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit ! George: why is the chat blinking? FredK.: Salut Zonk! Dale-AC14: George, people jsut dropped off. Alan Neeley: Bart Lynch AKA the zonk man has left the building... rich-c: Bart Lynch (Zonker) was doing a countdown to departure Pamela AC14: come back soon George: George: George: George: George: George: George: George: Guy B.: Whoa1 Guy B.: Whoa! Dale-AC14: I see George is left speechless. rich-c: yes, George, that's the way it works Ron: An ADaMite counting backwards from 5 George: hi Rich Drushel: i ii iii iv v... Daniel Bienvenu: brb
(Guy B. reboots BobS's computer remotely.) rich-c: cinq, quatre, trois, deux, un... George: i'm getting stuck Alan Neeley: wait a minute I thought it was 01, 02, 03, IV, 05... Rich Drushel: 1 4 7 2 5 8 3 6 9 10 Ron: right Alan Pamela AC14: George, hwat are you doing? Ron: Now, I am in a quandry FredK.: inch,ni,san,chi,go.....ok its not spelt right Ron: what's 15 XV oF Rich Drushel: hwat, that is a nice anglo-Saxon form! Ron: 0F BobS: Jill says...."throw some stuff out..." FredK.: James would know! Dale-AC14: 101 100 011 010 001 Rich Drushel: (Rich picks up Elanor and gives her a heave) Pamela AC14: ooh, he speaks Roman! Ron: :) Ron: right Dale james: back james: james would know what? HLM-AC14: now Alan can count Guy B.: Let's see. 01,02,03, IV,05,Six,007,VII,09,0ch, IXIII, 14. Right? Guy B.: XIII for 13. Alan Neeley: Very good Guy! FredK.: inch,ni,san,chi,go how its really spelt Rich Drushel: haha right Guy! Dale-AC14: Japanese! George: trying to chat Dale-AC14: Good stuff. james: ichi, ni, san, shi, go, roku, nana/shich, haji, kyuu, jyuu Rich Drushel: The next one has got to be F, though... james: oops. hachi not haji FredK.: Thats it!!!!! james: damn fingers rich-c: depends on which transliteration scheme you prefer, Fred George: i'm lost again Rich Drushel: Haji, he was Johnny Quest's friend... james: i don't much care for romanized japanese though. cumbersome to read/write BobS: be good Zonk FredK.: Looks the same fr you ay Rich? james: it's finally cooled off here and there's a nice breeze. i was getting pretty sick of 35+ humidity weather rich-c: well, any non-Latin language, the transliteration is arbitrary HLM-AC14: Zonker is gone wake up Guy B.: Been a hot summer altogether. George: HELP!
BobS left chat session Guy B.: George needs our help. rich-c: oh, we've had a northern high and nice summer weather last few days Dale-AC14: Hi George. Alan Neeley: Hottest in History here in SLC james: what's wrong george? Dale-AC14: He may have to reconnect. james: i don't doubt it. japan has also had a record heatwave. i'm just dreading my next electric bill Pamela AC14: I'm going to go look over someone's shoulder - my system is so slow that I'm falling way behind Rich Drushel: Come see my 486, Pam, it's working better now. Rich Drushel: Room 133, I think Elanor and I are in. Alan Neeley: But it's a dry heat here in Utah rich-c: ah yes, the joys of laptops Guy B.: Tell me about it. Mine was higher than normal and not from the computers, the A/C. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm back james: yeah, me too. Dale-AC14: Pamela, exiting and reentering can make it speed up on scrolling on a slower system. james: and at 23 cents/kwh hour here it's pricy George: why is this so slow? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm looking at the SmartBasic asm I found in your site Rich D Rich Drushel: Don't laugh too much at it, Daniel :-) Guy B.: Mine's about .08 and it's been frozen at that rate through 2006. Rich Drushel: There are parts I would do differently nowadays. Pamela AC14: where are you Rich? HLM-AC14: I think it is the chat buffer rich-c: sometimes when all of us talk at once the display slows down while printing Rich Drushel: Room 133. Dale-AC14: George, it keeps the whole cat history, and in IE that bogs down the displayunless your exit and reenter. FredK.: Guy your alcohool level? james: lol Rich Drushel: Knock 2x and say "Joe sent me" Dale-AC14: (the would be chat history) Guy B.: No, my rate per kilowatt hour. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm looking for the ASM code to draw a line on screen... to do a simple vector game like Asteroid for the Coleco game system Guy B.: I don't drink anyway. james: guy b, that's really cheap Ron: Well good people....mine is the first session of the morning Pamela AC14: OKAY, let me try that FredK.: jk
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changed username to Pamela james: nite ron Rich Drushel: ROTFL!!!!!!!!!1 HLM-AC14: Dale are you going to archive this chat Pamela: now let'ssee Rich Drushel: Yes, all errors recorded for posterity. Pamela: oh, much better Guy B.: James, at one time we had 14 cents or something like that a long time ago. But, now our electric is being deregulated, but no one is competeing right now. Daniel Bienvenu: I think I use only the vdp mode 2 screen mode. Dale-AC14: I archive them all. I just haven't updated in the archive lately. Pamela: thanks for the tip, Dale Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not too familiar with screen mode rich-c: it's a problem we all share
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George left chat session Rich Drushel: I have a couple of chats from coleco.cwru.edu that I can forward to you. rich-c: that is a relief, Dale Pamela: It'll be nice to see the archives, Dale. Rich Drushel: I archived those as well. Pamela: Plus, can you correct the spelling of discretion? Rich Drushel: :-) Dale-AC14: Daniel, I have a bunch of that stuff which I wrote originally for MacAdam I think. It is pretty fast. Dale-AC14: I also wrote some double buffering code for two color animation. james: i'm still interested in getting some manuals to get me going programming in asm on the adam Dale-AC14: It is not really possible to do in full colour. I tried and it didn't really work out satisfactorily. james: i have a couple of reference guides but they don't do much for the beginner rich-c: getting a bit of a strain for us old folks here rich-c: going to have to pack it in for the evening Pamela: time for bed, Dad?
moved to room Meeting Place Guy B.: Well folks, it's getting late here. So, I'm going to check my e-mail quickly. Those here at AC14, see you tomorrow. The rest on Wednesday. rich-c: some time ago, Pam Pamela: I suppose so
changed username to George Dale-AC14: James, native Adam, or emulator? I've done lessons on each. james: i prefer native adam George: i'm back FredK.: Rich-C take care and good night sleep Pamela: nite Guy - good luck tuning out Ron rich-c: so good night all, Zonk, Rob, real soon again, OK? Rich Drushel: Dale has done lessons on everything :-) Daniel Bienvenu: If it's possible for me to use your code to do something like Asteroid for the ColecoVision... Maybe it's too late to think about this kind of game. Dale-AC14: TDOS based or EOS only? Pamela: Nite, Dad - nite to Mom too Dale-AC14: Rich LOL. Guy B.: Bye Rich C. See you tomorrow. FredK.: Good night Guy B, c you Wed. james: i'm interested in doing games rich-c: colour me gone james: good night rich Rich Drushel: Nite Richard Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit! HLM-AC14: nite Rich Guy B.: Ok, gang. See you all tomorrow or Wednesday. Pamela: sweet dreams Daddy
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George left chat session Dale-AC14: Bye Grorge. james: beautiful city Rich Drushel: I should probably also consider going to be soon... Daniel Bienvenu: Dale - I don't know... maybe all the game could be done with sprites to looks like the Atari 2600 version Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit George Dale-AC14: That might be pretty easy then. gmk: I guess all good things come to an end, bye all Daniel Bienvenu: Dale - But if CV Asteroid can be done like a vector game it will be more beautifull Pamela: nite George, see in the a.m. james: dale - i'd like to get started on some basic assembler i guess. Dale-AC14: I thought the Atari 2600 had very limited sprite capabilities though. james: it does
gmk left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: But Atari 2600 have a 256 color palette... Pamela: okay all, I'm outta here - I'll leave you to talk games james: 'nite pam! Dale-AC14: A prue vector version is nicer. I think that 10 frames per second is the best you could do on complex levels though maybe. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Pam! Pamela: Nite James - see you Wednesday FredK.: Night Pam, till Wed. Pamela: Bonne nuit, Daniel james: i hope so. been working ot lately Rich Drushel: Yeah, time for sleep...good night to all at AC14 and around the world, thanks for stopping in. james: nite rich Pamela: Nite Rich Daniel Bienvenu: Bonne nuit Rich Rich Drushel: v iv iii ii i 0 FredK.: Rich D, Gute Naght Rich Drushel: poof Daniel Bienvenu: poof?
Rich Drushel left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: is gone james: too bad the romans didn't have a zero. least i think they didn't. Pamela: and I'm for bed. See everyone else in the morning Pamela: sweet dreams to all Pamela: poof! Daniel Bienvenu: I think roman use "ONE MINUS ONE" to illustrate the zero Dale-AC14: Poof means that although we said good bye, we actually mean it this time and won't stickaround anymore.
Pamela left chat session james: interesting Daniel Bienvenu: ok! so i will soon say "poof"... if I'm not the last one to quit Dale-AC14: Alan, have you done anytthing with the Adam emulator? james: i should go and get some work done while it's cool. Daniel Bienvenu: Adam emulator? Do you talk about ADAMEM? Dale-AC14: Yes that is the very one. Daniel Bienvenu: I think it's the only ADAM emulator FredK.: James, bid you good night and will drop a word or 2. james: yes, please do, i always enjoy talking to adam people Dale-AC14: Actually, there is one other. FredK.: Need to download one for my XP windows anybody can help? Dale-AC14: But it is the only one for Linux. james: so goodbye/night everyone, salut, a prochaine. FredK.: Salut James! Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit james james: *poof*
james left chat session Dale-AC14: Try http://www.komkon.org/~dekogel/adamem.html Dale-AC14: That is the author's web site for AdamEm. FredK.: Dale will try but will it work with Win XP? is there a danger Daniel Bienvenu: I know... Marcel de Kogel Dale-AC14: There is a bunch of images of files at http://coleco.free.fr/ FredK.: just download those images? Daniel Bienvenu: he's the one who help me with my Coleco programming. After he released his Coleco C library, I started to program Coleco games. Dale-AC14: It works find in Windows 2000 Professional, so I expect that XP will be okay too. (maybe Joystick and sound will be limited). Daniel Bienvenu: But I still have problem with the SPINNER. All my games to be used with a roller controller *CRASH* or *RESET* Dale-AC14: I don't mean pictures, but ROMs and other disk images. FredK.: Dale tks fr the info. will try but just wondered if there where any orders for downloading? Dale-AC14: I can help you with the spinner. Dale-AC14: It took me a long time to figure it out. Dale-AC14: The main trick is to use the correct Interrupt Mode (IM 2 is correct I think). Dale-AC14: And to "RETN" at the end of the non-maskable interrupt. Dale-AC14: Look up the IM assembler instruction at Thomas S.'s web site. Dale-AC14: Fred, I'm not sure what you're asking. Daniel Bienvenu: I think I have no control on that with my C programming method. I have to find someone who can do the special ASM code to get the spinner values. Dale-AC14: Daniel, I never got the Hi-C compiler to work under Linux or TDOS under AdamEm. Daniel Bienvenu: My Z80 asm skill is ... low Dale-AC14: I'm sure that you can do some inline assembly... FredK.: Dale, I realise its getting late, maybe for next time.....its just that i do not know how you get an emulator to work once you dowload the files? Dale-AC14: it would only need to be about 7 well chosen lines.
HLM-AC14 left chat session Dale-AC14: Fred, the emualtor is on zip files. Under Windows, you really need to have AdamEmMam. Dale-AC14: It makes it easy to pick the ROM or disks that you use with the emulator. Daniel Bienvenu: Marcel de Kogel added a method to get the spinner values but it's working only with the emulators. in cart version, the game crash. FredK.: Dale tks very much, and those I download on the Kom....site you gave to me.... Dale-AC14: We can talk about it more on another chat. Dale-AC14: Daniel, I think that the "IM 2" is the trick you need. FredK.: Dale no problem and tks again. FredK.: Good night to all,Bonne nuit Daniel. Daniel Bienvenu: So I will have to re-compile the Marcel de Kogel library? wow! Dale-AC14: See ya Fred. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Fred! FredK.: *poof*
FredK. left chat session Dale-AC14: I think that you can avoid that if you make sure that you do it as the first line of your code. Dale-AC14: Is Alan still here? Daniel Bienvenu: I don't know Dale-AC14: Daniel, did you want me to take a peek at Marcel's code? Daniel Bienvenu: I don't think you have rights to modify his code but if your modification can help me... why not! Dale-AC14: I'm downloading it now...
Alan Neeley left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: look at the CRTCV.AS file Dale-AC14: In his file "adam/cadam.as" he sets the interrupt mode to 1 (IM 1) Dale-AC14: But he does not do that for cartridges. Dale-AC14: If you add to line 185: Dale-AC14: IM 1 Dale-AC14: I bet it'll fix your problem. Daniel Bienvenu: cadam.as .. i don't have this file... Dale-AC14: (right after the "start_program:" line) Dale-AC14: You only use the "lib/* files? Dale-AC14: I got the coleco.zip fro m your web site. Dale-AC14: The Adam/cadam.as is for the Adam interface. Daniel Bienvenu: I see... but I'm looking in the LIB I used for my creation in the lib folder Dale-AC14: Do you know how to rebuild the libcv.lib file? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not 100% sure but I think it's not difficult Dale-AC14: Well, that is the easiest way to change it. Daniel Bienvenu: I use the ZAS to compile the AS files Dale-AC14: Then to transfer files to the Adam, I've always prefered to use a serial cable (but you need a serial card for your Adam) -- BobS should have one or two around. Dale-AC14: Daniel, that sounds right to me. Daniel Bienvenu: it's interresting! I'm looking for a way to test my game. Dale-AC14: So after you use ZAS, you need to take the output .obj files and make them into a new .lib Daniel Bienvenu: the libcv.lib ? but the spinner values was in the crtcv.as file ... and the crtcv is not compiled into the libcv.lib file but in the crtcv.obj file Dale-AC14: Even easier. Dale-AC14: That should have occured to me. Daniel Bienvenu: Now, we have to figure out where to modify the coleco library to fix the spinner problem Dale-AC14: That "IM 1" change should be enough. Daniel Bienvenu: right after the "start_program:" line? Dale-AC14: eXACTLY. Daniel Bienvenu: before the push lines? Dale-AC14: <tab>IM<tab>1 Dale-AC14: It doesn't really matter. Before the push lines is good Dale-AC14: start_program:<tab>IM<tab>1 Dale-AC14: start_program: IM 1 Dale-AC14: Actually his code is all lower case (im 1) Daniel Bienvenu: I notice the "lower case"... Dale-AC14: I don't know if it matters, but you should probably match what he did. Dale-AC14: dir Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not sure I understand what you try to tell me. Dale-AC14: Oops "dir" was supposed to be for the other window. Sorry. Daniel Bienvenu: I tried to compile my current project "gamepack" wth the new version of the crtcv.obj and I think it's working. I have to compile one of my other Coleco projects Daniel Bienvenu: One of my projects who use the spinner values Dale-AC14: Okay, Dale-AC14: I'm trying to figure out 22nice. Daniel Bienvenu: the new gamepack ROM works with MESS emulator. I don't know if it's work with a real coleco Dale-AC14: Do you have a real Coleco to test it on? Dale-AC14: I thought I heard that your floppy drive was not responding. Daniel Bienvenu: To test my game on a real coleco I need to do a cart. but I have no eprom burner. The fastest solution is to use RAMCART. But the only solution I have is by using an adam disk drive. Yes, my adam disk drive doesn't work Dale-AC14: Right, so no test tonight, I guess. Daniel Bienvenu: So, the only way I found to test my game before making carts is to ask the one who build the carts to test my game on a real Coleco before. Dale-AC14: You could email it to me in a zip and I could test it here. But not until tomorrow, I guess. Daniel Bienvenu: What is your e-mail? Dale-AC14: Did you see on AdamCon.org the Norman G Sipple project to make the joystick into a read only serial port? Daniel Bienvenu: No, I didn't see that Dale-AC14: Send it to firstname.lastname@example.org Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not 100% but I think a Coleco ADAM don't react the same way as a ColecoVision. I have done an hacked version of a rom to add a special title screen and the DELAY is working only with a real ColecoVision. Dale-AC14: Sorry I meant Jeff Frohwein: http://www.adamcon.org/jeff_frohwein/ Daniel Bienvenu: I tested the same rom on an ADAM and the screen freeze Dale-AC14: The Coleco Adam is 99% the same. Daniel Bienvenu: I know but for this particular ROM it's not the same Dale-AC14: The only commercial CV cart that I never could get to work on my Adam is Tennis Dale-AC14: (which was put out by Telegames). Daniel Bienvenu: You have Tennis? wow! Daniel Bienvenu: I don't find any Daniel Bienvenu: oh.. telegames release Dale-AC14: Telegames actually had a programmer or two clean up and finish some of the games in around 85 or 86 if I recall correctly. Dale-AC14: They also added code to make sure the game was running from cart and not some place else. Daniel Bienvenu: ok! I compile a new version of my Double Breakout project (for use with paddle, roller controller or the spinner on a Super Action joystick...) Daniel Bienvenu: How you know that about telegames programmers? Daniel Bienvenu: did you find the information somewhere in the internet? Dale-AC14: Back then, our MTAG user group had about 150 members... Daniel Bienvenu: MTAG? Dale-AC14: And my brother met with the owner of Telegames at the CES show. Dale-AC14: MTAG is the Metro-Toronto Adam Group (user's group) Dale-AC14: CES is the Consumer Electronics Show (which my brother Neil was attending for our video store). Dale-AC14: Anyway he had a chance to see the Telegames CV clone machine, and talk to the owner. Dale-AC14: I'll look for your email and try it in the morning. I'll email back when I get a moment. Dale-AC14: The Telegames units and the game titles were carried at Toys R Us in that time frame. Dale-AC14: I was disapointed that the cart labels were not full colour though. Dale-AC14: Anyway Jeff Frowhein's setup allows you to using the 1K scratch space area, upload your test code. Daniel Bienvenu: I send you an e-mail Daniel Bienvenu: with the rom file I compiled with the new crtcv.obj maded with the modified crtcv.as Dale-AC14: I'll go to bed now. Dale-AC14: Goodnight. Daniel Bienvenu: mee too! Daniel Bienvenu: booen nuit! Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit! Daniel Bienvenu: POOF! Dale-AC14: poof. Daniel Bienvenu: hehe
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