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changed username to Jillian Jillian: Hey Bob!
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changed username to rich-c Jillian: I wasn't sure if any one else would be here or if everyone was all Adamed out. BobS: got home OK I see rich-c: see a few others are early - hi Bob abd Jill BobS: Richard!!! ya'll made it home ok too!!!! BobS: not ADAMed out or FRIENDed out either!!!!!! rich-c: oh yes, hed to stop in Windsor to see Frances' sister and her kids BobS: how did li'l Jeffy take the whole weekend ????? BobS: ok now Jillian: Yup. We hit Detroit at about 4:50 and were over the bridge and thru customs in about 25 minutes rich-c: Pamela and I had a non-race home - she made it in first but we had a better lunch Jillian: Jeffy did well. All of us were tired but we seem to have recovered now. Jillian: We stoped in Windsor for supper and then started home at 8:30. rich-c: problem is, how are you going to explain to Jeffy that honorary aunts are only a sometime thing? Jillian: We ended up having lunch before we left Kentwood as Dale had to check out the photo lab at Myers before we left town. rich-c: man, did that kid get fussed over (OK, so I did do my share) BobS: glad to see ALL made it home without tickets, etc Jillian: Jeffy has lots of honorary aunts anduncles that he sees very irregularily. rich-c: that I wouldn't doubt - he is one engaging kidlet Jillian: No tickets, scratchs, crying fits, or spitups. rich-c: just set teh cruise control on 70 and try to stay awake Jillian: We're very lucky with his temperament.
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: you sure are, Jill - let's hope it stays that way
changed username to Judy rich-c: hi Judy, beginning to recover now?
moved to room Meeting Place Jillian: We didn't have trouble staying awake this time. I drove through Detroit and Dale drove after that. Judy: Hi, Rich
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changed username to newcoleco rich-c: hello George - we wer3e just discussing Jill's son rich-c: bonjour Daniel! Judy: no, today was a nightmare George: Hi everyone newcoleco: Hello! I finally make it... I'm here.. wooooohooooo! BobS: oh sure, you drive in a foreign country, then make Dale drive in Mountie country........ BobS: YOU Geo BobS: YO George !!!! Judy: I had all three boys this morning, and one with a broken arm BobS: that better BobS: Hiya daniel rich-c: why did you break his arm? George: HI Bob Jillian: We were working on the next AB game so were quite involved in that. Judy: not me, Ryan did that last night at home BobS: make any progress with ther disk drive Daniel???? Jillian: How did he do that? Jillian: Ryan that is. Judy: fell off the couch rich-c: yikes - and cold sober, too newcoleco: oh.. no progress with my disk drive. Thanks for asking! :) BobS: well.......did richard send ya specs and instructions????? Jillian: Must have landed really wrong. I've fallen off couches before and only bruised my dignity. rich-c: Bob, was it you or Dr. D. said he had the schematics for the disc drive? BobS: to get you started???? BobS: I might have them somewhaere......not sure whjere newcoleco: oh.. I don't receive any schematics. Judy: yes, broke the top part BobS: Terry Fowlere has thenm for a buck a page + shipping though rich-c: I have schematics for the Adam but not for the disc drive Judy: so he has the arm bandaged to his chest BobS: was lookintg on his website and found those............but no mem xpane=ders, ets rich-c: was it a clean break or greenstick fracture, Judy? Judy: can move the bottom half, but he doesn't Jillian: Jeffy took his first proper cruising steps this morning. Then fell down and walloped his head. first of many I assume. Judy: spiral break BobS: OUCH rich-c: yes Jill, maybe you'd better buy him a helmet BobS: that's about it Jill.....1st of many Judy: poor little guy Jillian: How old is Ryan? rich-c: those are nasty, Judy. My sympathy all round - especially to Ryan BobS: 1 yr and seven months BobS: he's cryin again BobS: probably di not ge his tylenol lately...... BobS: sometimes Mandy fogets her head Jillian: I'm not surprised. I'm sure it will hurt like the blazes for a while. rich-c: how come they don't have it in a cast? Jillian: Anyone have a palm pilot? We use those for setting alarms for timed medications. BobS: no George: zip BobS: don't rightly know......have to see a bone specialist next Mon I think rich-c: yes, at that age and stage of growth, proper treatment is critical Jillian: Casts are frowned on lately due to problems with skin beathing and people trying to scratch with items like knitting needles etc. newcoleco: oh no! don't tell me .. who has an accident? George: i had a couple rich-c: Ryan is Bob and Judy's grandson
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changed username to Dr.D. rich-c: welcome Dr. D. newcoleco: hello Rich! Dr.D.: Sorry I'm late...aquarium disaster in the slug lab. BobS: hi Dr D Dr.D.: Just got back home. George: Hi Dr. D Dr.D.: Hello all. rich-c: do you have the Adam disc drive schematics and can you send them (scan, photocopy) to Daniel? Jillian: Lots of casulties in the lab? BobS: the slugs had a mutiny and broke the aquarium.............
(BobS winks) George: i have to go to the hospital tomorrow Dr.D.: Of course I have the schematics, I scanned them before returning them to you. I have not had time to assemble the scans into whole documents. rich-c: but they don't include teh disc drive, do they? (I confess I haven't unrolled the package yet) Jillian: What happened George? Mishap between the con and home? Dr.D.: As for casualties, one. He died and fouled the water, making the others sick. The reason he died is that someone in the lab made a salt water mess and caused 2 circuit breakers to blow. newcoleco: I'm sorry to hear that your grandson had an accident. I hope it's not serious. Dr.D.: This caused all the water circulation, aeration, filtration, and cooling equipment for that tank to stop. Jillian: Slugs and salt water don't mix well I'm sure. George: more tests for the spot they found on my right lung rich-c: il a tombe et casse son bras, Dasniel Dr.D.: The students using the lab today made a big mess, and they are going to get a big slice of my mind tomorrow morning...inexcusable sloppiness. rich-c: oh slugs mix fine with salt water - volts are another story! Dr.D.: As for the disk drive schematics, yes they are in the roll. BobS: Jill. this is the Goerge In Philidelphia, Not George K from the con Dr.D.: With the huge size of the prints, however, it took 6 overlapping 8.5x11 scans to get each one. Jillian: Oh ok. I was a little confused there for a minute. Dr.D.: So, I have to put them back together...a bit of Photoshop work. rich-c: ok, I will sort that out then andsee what I can do - unless you already have a scan posted that Daniel can download tonight? Dr.D.: I promise I will do the disk drive one first. Dr.D.: I have nothing hear at home...the scans total about 300 MB and they're on a big FireWire drive in my office. Dr.D.: Oops, here. George: i'm lost Jillian: Still, Good luck and healing thoughts for you George. George: thanks Dr.D.: I had actually gone in tonight to photocopy some stuff for Dale, figured I'd be done in a couple of hours...but the rule is, you go in, you peek in at the slug room, just in case...and I found a problem. rich-c: does Daniel have the url where they will be posted? Dr.D.: It would have been a major putrefying mess by tomorrow morning if I hadn't intervened. BobS: you not lost Geo......you are in Philly where it is HOT !!!!!! rich-c: yes, and while slugs are cheap, they aren't that cheap, and time waiting for delivery really costs Dr.D.: Re: URL, no. I don't even know yet where I'm going to put them up. When I have something for him, I will E-mail him where to get them, even if that place doesn't end up being the final or public one. Jillian: So your choices were icky mess now or really icky mess tomorrow? Dr.D.: Yes, Jill. George: hot as hell BobS: tha's it Geo Dr.D.: August heat and dead slugs do not a fragrant environment make... BobS: was about 100 today?????
Jillian changed username to Jeffy George: yes! Dr.D.: So, Jill...looks like all my pics of Jeffrey came out okay. rich-c: oh, I'd expect they'd make a very fragrant environment - though not pleasantly so Jeffy: a,Mzm Dr.D.: Oops, Jill turned into Jeffrey. BobS: HYI Jeffy!!!!! rich-c: anloopeje5rto3w75932=[q'nsv;/dzxfho=rw-e, Jeffy BobS: Hey!!!! he is walking already Dr.D.: Blingo smee dringlaxia phlorgidsbidits!
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changed username to FreddyMaiden BobS: don't let 'em bs ya kid........they really do know englich FreddyMaiden: Hi All
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changed username to daniel bienvenu BobS: Hiya Freddie daniel bienvenu: hello again! rich-c: hi Fred, how's things around Mirabel? Dr.D.: And hi to Daniel as well./ Judy: hi, Freddy daniel bienvenu: browser problem i think George: Hi Freddy FreddyMaiden: Hot very Hot Jeffy: MNS rich-c: and George, OUCH is OK, it's phfft! you have to worry about George: huh? BobS: jeez, Jeffy is talking computerese already daniel bienvenu: Que s'est-il passé à Mirabel? ton retour de voyage? rich-c: we have the second of two cold fronts today going through now and it's still hot Dr.D.: #7dmjdkh@~1!mnmfnr~~~NO CARRIER Judy: watch out or I will put Ryan on George: i'll have to buy the electric Co.
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changed username to Dr.D. BobS: yes Freddy, we had a GREAT time !!!!!! rich-c: I dunno, Bob - the temps behind the front don't seem much improvement from those we have now daniel bienvenu: I saw the pictures too. It's the ADAM BOMB 2 game?
jILLIANJeffy changed username to Jillian Judy: he couldn't type anyway BobS: it is 70F now......that's 20C George: we are bone dry too BobS: YES.....was gonna email ya.....Richard has rights to sell the game to ya !!!!! can even put it in ADAMEM form for ya I think Jillian: I don't mind him typing computerese, but the cutting of teach on cors and cables is officailly a bad thing. rich-c: count your blessings, George - our air is so wet you could drink it BobS: wqell put Richard FreddyMaiden: Dan, sent you an e-mail but never went through... rich-c: had to have the van's emission test done today - the air it was putting out was cleaner than the intake wsas taking in daniel bienvenu: Who use the BMP2PP software? (looking the ADAMCON pictures) Dr.D.: I was drinking it on the way in from the car...rain rain rain this evening (hooray, we need it). BobS: got a LOT of delegates interested in the gamre Dr.D.: Ron Mitchell did...I gave him one of my digital photos of Jeffrey to make into PP format. daniel bienvenu: Fred : veux-tu dire que j'Ai un problème de courrier? Dr.D.: I am even contemplating making a giant script to turn all of my convention photos into PP format...and then use Chris Braymen's software to make a multimedia slideshow. BobS: BUT, daniel........the colors from the camera's and ibm side are screwed up sometimes when transferred to the ADAM 16 color palatte rich-c: what doesn't show, Daniel, is that in going from 256 to 16 colours there is some distortion Jillian: When we got home at 1:00am on Tuesday morning we got a notice that they were replacing half of our windows at 8:00am so we currently have lots of ventilation. FreddyMaiden: peut_être bien mais simplement que ton serveur ne l'as pas pris!?! Dr.D.: Well, I just did a brute-force 1st-order downsampling...I am sure that I can do much better if I actually spend some time on it. rich-c: yes, that's what photo editing software is for Dr.D.: I can even put ADAM's own exact RGB palette into Photoshop and let it do the downsampling first...then BMP2PP can deal with the color bleeding stuff. daniel bienvenu: Well, I don't have the Borland builderC++ but I have done a hacked version of BMP2PP to ADD another color palette (vdp info from TWWMCA ) rich-c: if you can do a lot of the simplification on the DOS side before teh transfer, results could be better Dr.D.: That's the very palette I'd use, Daniel. Dr.D.: I actually have hacked all my copies of COLEMDOS and ADAMEM to use that palette...just a bit of searching through the .EXE to find the table, and patch it with Norton Disk Editor :-) rich-c: Rich, does BMP2PP actually control colour bleeding when transferring to Adam? Dr.D.: Though I think the 2nd release of ADAMEM did allow it as a command-line option. Dr.D.: AFAIK, Richard, yes. daniel bienvenu: I used the XVI32 to modify BMP2PP Dr.D.: You just need some heuristic to decide what foreground and background color fits "best" in each group of 8 pixels. Dr.D.: It will be variable, depends on the image. daniel bienvenu: I found some informations about a better ERROR-DIFFUSION algo than the one used in BMP2PP. But without builderC++ I can't modify the source code. Dr.D.: If there are lots of tiny details, the result will be uglier than if the image is big blocks of color...Ron said that during his presentation, even. Dr.D.: Isn't the source code in plaintext? rich-c: yes, and it really only makes sense rich-c: I know what my Windows screen looks like simplified in Safe Mode - simplification sucks daniel bienvenu: the source code is in plaintext but the source code need a special library named VCL Dr.D.: In 1988 you'd have killed to have a Safe-Mode-resolution screen for your ADAM :-) Dr.D.: What is VCL? Jillian: Jeffy sends a wiggle and drool out to all on the way to his bath. I'll try to be back later daniel bienvenu: The information I found in the internet said the VCL library came with the Borland BuilderC++ software Dr.D.: One thing that someone could consider doing for the emulator would be to invent a new screen that is all-points-adressable, and no color bleeding. rich-c: Frances still would - the colour bleeding problem is her main inhibitor in using SmartLogo Dr.D.: wiggle drool wiggle drool
Jillian moved to room not at my desk rich-c: she would prefer SmartLogo to Amiga Logo otherwise because Amiga doesnt support sprites Dr.D.: Of course, you'd never be able to run such applications on a real ADAM. daniel bienvenu: BTW, the algo I wanted to implement in BMP2PP is BURKES. Dr.D.: If you want to go emulator-only, you can add all sorts of goodness to your ADAM. Dr.D.: BURKES, I'll look it up in my computer graphics textbooks. rich-c: Fred, do you have the Adam emulator on your computer? BobS: how about running the emulator and accessing the internet????? FreddyMaiden: Rich unfortunately no, i dont know how to go about and need help...although know the site...kom... Dr.D.: Daniel, if you are willing to use some other program to display your output, you could probably make a Unix-style converter utility, no graphics on screen. rich-c: you would have trouble with the screen graphics I suspect Bob BobS: then we cvould truly say the ADAM does it all ; even if it is the emulator daniel bienvenu: I found a web page who show the difference between floyd-s., burkes and others... It's almost the same except algo but the result gives more importance to the EDGE in a picture. BobS: Freddy, by downloading the ADAMEMmam which is the Windows front end, it is very easy to ge tgoing rich-c: Fred, first download the full package, emulator, Adamem Mam, and any images or roms Dr.D.: The earliest photo-to-PP programs I remember seeing didn't do any kind of error diffusion stuff, they just took each block of 8 pixels from the original and guessed what would be the best 2-color mapping for that 8 pixels, paying no attention to neighbors. rich-c: then install the lot - there are a number of readmes FreddyMaiden: install the lot? Dr.D.: "install all of it" he means :-) FreddyMaiden: k Dr.D.: idiomatic expression daniel bienvenu: Well, I found another tool for windows who use the ordered dithering. It's optimized for the Spectrum graphics. FreddyMaiden: haha im the idiot rich-c: yes, install all the programs - actually for most it's just copy them to the same directory Dr.D.: I should think as well in my 2nd language (German) as you do in yours, Freddy :-) :-) BobS: no you're not Freddy.......just timid to try it. you can always dump it and start over FreddyMaiden: tks fr confidence afraid to download on knew computer... FreddyMaiden: new that is BobS: naw, they won't hurt it FreddyMaiden: darn frangrais kicking in rich-c: Fred, it is so idiot-redsistant that even I can do it FreddyMaiden: k once all downloaded then what? BobS: make your shortcut on the front screen point to ADAMEMmam daniel bienvenu: I know how to program in AINSI C so I suppose I can do a little something for the UNIX to convert a picture but I think this kind of tool exist allready. rich-c: whoops - I don't think it even needs installation, just copying to its won directory - right, Bob? FreddyMaiden: then it will work autom by simply klicking on it? Dr.D.: It all depends upon what you yourself want out of the tool, Daniel.
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changed username to Meeka Dr.D.: If you're the only one to use it, it can be as ugly and complicated as needed to just get the job done. Meeka: Hello BobS: set up the paths to the obvious start points; put in the correct .dsk image file you want for disk # 1 and start rich-c: hello Meeka FreddyMaiden: Hi Meeka BobS: Hi Meeka daniel bienvenu: hello meeka! Dr.D.: Adding user-friendly front ends takes a lot of time :-) George: Hi Meeka Dr.D.: Hi Meeka, has Doug reverse-engineered all my ADAMserve code yet? :-) FreddyMaiden: Rich, then i click and Smarwritter appears? BobS: Freddy, just make sure that ALL the adamem stuff is in it's own directory......ADAMEM......or something like that Dr.D.: Tell him I apologize in advance for any bugs or poor programming style that he may find...but I guarantee that my code is much, much nicer than Tony Morehen's. Meeka: dont' have any idea Rich rich-c: Bob, what do you mean set up paths? I didn't and it runs fine - just double-click in Explorer Meeka: ok I will BobS: nmaybe the paths are preset......
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changed username to Pamela Dr.D.: And he can always complain to me at email@example.com BobS: was just looking at it and yu ocan change them Pamela: Don't yell, I'm sorry I'm late George: Hi Pam FreddyMaiden: Hi Pam BobS: hiya Pamel rich-c: HI DAUGHTER Meeka: Hello Pam FreddyMaiden: oopd Dr.D.: Pamela! daniel bienvenu: In 1999, my programming skill in QuickBASIC let me do a picture converter. I named this tool CVPHOTO. The first version was in b&w... the second was in color. BobS: /for shame 11111
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changed username to Evanston Express daniel bienvenu: hello pam daniel bienvenu: hello! FreddyMaiden: Bob whats that 5bit message? rich-c: whoops - who's this new voice? Pamela: Hi, all Dr.D.: Nothing wrong with QuickBASIC...I have published 3 scientific papers in which the kinematic models were QuickBASIC 4.5 .EXEs. Dr.D.: 2 of them this year. Pamela: Meeka - I loved C.J. Banks Evanston Express: Can you guys tell who I AM? rich-c: I'm all in favour of adding an Illinoisance - but who's in Evanston? Pamela: Guy! Evanston Express: Right BobS: GUY Meeka: cool! Meeka: I do too
Evanston Express changed username to Guy B. FreddyMaiden: Hi Guy Guy B.: Hi Everyone! Dr.D.: Hmmm...maybe Bob Bair? Thought he was Kindaville, though. daniel bienvenu: I know but people request a visual tool. Dr.D.: Of Kendallville, however it's spelt. Pamela: I had a hard time walking out of there with only one item - but time and money didn't permit more George: Hi Guy Dr.D.: Evening, Guy. Pamela: I don't know whether to kill you or kiss you rich-c: what are you doing in Evanston, Guy? That whre the new apartment is? FreddyMaiden: so wast! Dr.D.: Kiss, then kill...the alternative is, well, icky. Guy B.: Rich, I'm at home. I just wanted to see if you knew who it was. FreddyMaiden: ohne worte! Dr.D.: ja gewiss! Pamela: true, Rich Pamela: think I'll stick with kiss - but now I have to go back Dr.D.: Yes, I'm being naughty. daniel bienvenu: oh yeah! my cat is back! ... I'm happy! worrying too much about this cat. FreddyMaiden: ach zo! Pamela: I'm sure Meeka will complain about that Guy B.: Oh, by the way. I am moving. Still will be in North Riverside, but back in my old neighborhood.
daniel bienvenu changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: I saw my name in the onlinechat pictures! Pamela: Jillian, what time did you two leave? Pamela: sorry, three Dr.D.: Yes, I photographed the screen when you were logged in, Daniel. FreddyMaiden: Pam Jillian is with Jeffy at the moment... rich-c: ypou caused a sensation with your games, Daniel - no wonder you saw your name Pamela: why are you moving, Guy? FreddyMaiden: stand in the place where you are now look..... Pamela: north! Guy B.: I got a bigger apartment. One bedroom, but more space and a balcony. FreddyMaiden: lol Pamela: : ) Daniel Bienvenu: you know John Dondzila? I think he will makea some carts of the Gamepack for me. Pamela: is the current one a one bedroom too? Daniel Bienvenu: he gaves me his opinion about "circuit 24" Guy B.: I'm going to start packing this weekend and I probably can move some things by next weekend with everything in September. Dr.D.: I replied to your post on rec.games.video.classic, not sure if you saw it yet. Daniel Bienvenu: So I fixed the game before making carts version Guy B.: Yes it is. Pamela: Packing - yuck. Pamela: I swore after the last time never again Daniel Bienvenu: I saw a reply in rgvc yes... Guy B.: I've done this three times already. Not a picnic, but it has to be done. Daniel Bienvenu: maybe I don't see your reply... Pamela: done it twice - the second time was ten times as much work Daniel Bienvenu: I will check it out Dr.D.: Packing, moving...I had to spend 6 hours Tuesday moving to a new office, with no packing notice, because the new occupant decided to come to CWRU one week early. FreddyMaiden: Rich, I hope they didnt make you change the emissions module or something like that... BobS: you could stay a while guy Pamela: which office, Rich? Pamela: the computer lab? Daniel Bienvenu: my english is ok? do you understand me well? Dr.D.: No, my office in the Biology Building. Pamela: is that better or worse? Dr.D.: Your English is fine, Daniel. BobS: yessir daniel it GOOD Pamela: your English is just fine, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: ok thanks FreddyMaiden: C super Guy B.: Jeanene is going to help me with arranging the place. And I have new appliances. Daniel Bienvenu: merci Fred rich-c: Fred, the truck went through the emissions check with miles to spare Dr.D.: New office is better in that it is not shared and is a little bigger than the half-room I had before. Pamela: so this was a good thing, then? rich-c: the engine was clean - Grand Rapids and back at 70 mph make a fine Italian tuneup Dr.D.: I got 4 desks and one large table in it, one of which will get an ADAM set up on it soon. FreddyMaiden: perfert!!! cause those modules cost alot if you have DIS Pamela: sorry, channelling Martha Stewart there for a bit Guy B.: I've been wanting to get out of my current apt for sometime. Been nothing but trouble. Dr.D.: Well the move is a long-term good thing, it's just an annoyance of having had to move offices 4 times in the last 2 years. BobS: she is dyin Panm Pamela: yeah, I heard, Bob Dr.D.: My Chairman tells me that this office is the final one. Dr.D.: Dying, who is dying? rich-c: actually Fred I will be putting a new engine in very soon Pamela: I'm well acquainted with the office move - I did it ten times in four years FreddyMaiden: really! whats the specs? BobS: Martha Stewart merchandise id dyin on the vine so to speak rich-c: that will make it a "hot-rod" and allowed to clear under 1980 standars - not hard for a 1995 truck Dr.D.: Into 4 places not reachable by elevators? FreddyMaiden: 440? Pamela: no, I have to admit it was only from office to office Guy B.: I've moved already in my office three times within the past 5 years. Finally got settled two years ago. Pamela: still, I can't count the number of things I lost in the moves Dr.D.: 1st floor building A to 1st floor building B, reachable only by going outside around buildings C and D and up a half flight of stairs... Pamela: I did gain some things though - like a 6' x 3' desk rich-c: I will go from the 4.3L V6 to the 5.7L V8 Pamela: a credenza Dr.D.: then move to 2nd floor of building B up flight of stairs with no elevator. FreddyMaiden: ahhhhh thats gonna haul with no sweat!! rich-c: the V6 is really the V8 with two cylinders left off anyway Dr.D.: Then move to 3rd floor of building A still with no elevator. Guy B.: I've got a bigger desk too. And I love it. My company should have done this years ago. Never too late to correct it. FreddyMaiden: like the 6 is really a 4!! Pamela: now we know how you've been getting your exercise, Rich rich-c: well I hope so, Fred, since that's the object Dr.D.: Then down the hall on 3rd floor of building A except through 3 double doors and a stairwell landing...bleh!!! Pamela: bleh is right rich-c: the present tow rating is 5500 lbs. - and that's truthful as a government press release Dr.D.: Moving steel WW2-vintage desks yourself with a 500lb-capacity aluminum cart is no picnic. rich-c: I'm hoping the V8 will let me tow a realistic 1500 KG. Dr.D.: Give me your V8 to tow my desks!!! Pamela: won't fit in the stairwell, Rich Dr.D.: (And not the juice, either) FreddyMaiden: hope that the fitting will be made without too many hickupsà rich-c: once I get it in, Rich, I reckon it just might do that pretty well Dr.D.: vrooooommmmm! Guy B.: I can imagine. We had movers did our floor, but we managed to do some of the stuff ourselves. Going between the 15th and 3rd floors. Daniel Bienvenu: Rich D - I saw your reply... and the pictures I saw was yours. rich-c: it's the most popular engine conversion around because it is so easy Dr.D.: I can see it now, Rich Clee, cruisin' the strip...don't take no sass from nobody! Pamela: how many pictures did we end up with all told? FreddyMaiden: Excellent!!! rich-c: there is a specialist shop in Saskatchewan that sells the whole kit, another in the US Dr.D.: When I upload the last bit from Monday morning, 232 that I took. Guy B.: Wow, that's alot. FreddyMaiden: crated kits, that helps!! Pamela: 'tis rich-c: sorry, Rich, my interest is in pulling stumps, not pulling quarter times Dr.D.: Plus the time-lapse movies...gotta convert them to a different QuickTime compressor, they are 251.4 MB now, too big. Pamela: add to that all the ones Meeka took and we have a ton Guy B.: I have one set of photos ready by the weekend, the rest will follow later. Dr.D.: You don't have any stumps where you live?!? FreddyMaiden: :) Pamela: Just where are you going to pull stumps, Dad? Pamela: something you're not telling me? Dr.D.: But the movies are quite impressive. Only wish someone could have steered the camera a bit while I was doing my session, my blackboard stuff was off-screen.
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changed username to BobS Dr.D.: I kept after the framing pretty well myself for everyone else's sessions, though. Guy B.: Some of us should have helped you with that Dr. D. Dr.D.: I wander around the room too much when I lecture. FreddyMaiden: hauling power without a doubt Pamela: I know that Daddy Dr.D.: I guess it's adaptation to the classes I've taught at CWRU, don't stand still and let 'em fall asleep. Pamela: I'm just pulling your tail
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Pamela confirmed ban rich-c: know you do, but I played it straight because didnt want you confusing others Guy B.: Ok, Bob is one again. Dr.D.: He'll pull yours with that V8 :-) Pamela: where did Judy go? Pamela: OUCH! Guy B.: Bob, where is she? Dr.D.: Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in the conservatory... FreddyMaiden: Pam v8 as in engine not the drink! BobS: daren FEELS good n!!!!! FreddyMaiden: ) Daniel Bienvenu: After studying a little bit Java language, I think I could be more easy to program an applet to convert a picture than making a new tool in unix or windows style. BobS: SE is the reason we both got dumped !!!!! BobS: SHWE BobS: SHE Pamela: having a little trouble with your fingers, Bob? Dr.D.: Java applet would probably be a good way to go, Daniel. BobS: far as I know Ronald Mitchell flew off into the sunset at 2PM this afternooon Guy B.: Were you both using the same connection? BobS: both using a network conneciton off my laptop yes Dr.D.: Ron didn't leave Grand Rapids until today? BobS: my dingers??????? BobS: no!!!!! Guy B.: So, the Mighty Mitchell should be arriving home by now. Pamela: ya, them dingers Meeka: yup, I put him on the plane this afternoon Daniel Bienvenu: I never done an applet before... only a few applications. FreddyMaiden: Gotta get some shut eye, Adam team!!! Goodnite all BobS: gettign home about midnight Dr.D.: Good night, Freddy. BobS: HIS time I think Pamela: nite, Freddy Guy B.: Bye Freddy. BobS: nite Freey
moved to room Meeting Place Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Fred! George: nite Freddy rich-c: nite vor now, Fred - see what's up Saturday
changed username to Judy Pamela: and she's back! Guy B.: There's Judy. FreddyMaiden: poof!
FreddyMaiden left chat session Dr.D.: It's Judy's turn to cry? Judy: hi, Guy Guy B.: Hi Judy. Judy: hi, Pam and rich BobS: and now it's Judy's turn to cry, Judy's turn to cry........... Guy B.: Did you hear, I have found a new apartment thanks to Jeanene. Meeka: how did you day with the boys go mom? Dr.D.: C'mon, Judy, say it... Judy: why is that, all the boys are gone Dr.D.: "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to" Judy: it was one to remember Daniel Bienvenu: ok.. i'm lost... what is going on? Judy: or forget BobS: better apartment????? bigger???????cheaper????? rich-c: Judy has had the day from Hell, Daniel
Jillian confirmed ban Dr.D.: We are quoting some bad 1960s pop songs lyrics... Pamela: sound like one for the record books, Judy
Jillian confirmed ban BobS: old 70's pop song Daniel
Jillian moved to room Meeting Place Judy: you did hear about Ryan didn't you? Pamela: nope, what? BobS: not BAD, good!!!!!! Jillian: I'm back Guy B.: Bigger apartment. A little more than what I'm paying now. Dr.D.: Okay, if something serious bad happened to Judy today, I didn't know about it... Pamela: Hi, J! BobS: Jacks is BACK....I mean Jill Dr.D.: hope my foot isn't in something... Meeka: no. what?? Judy: he broke his arm yesterday Pamela: what!??? Pamela: How? Meeka: he did?? Guy B.: HI Jill, how's the smiling Jeffrey doing? Judy: fell of the couch Pamela: what was he doing? BobS: standing UP, like hi sNOT supposed to be doing Jillian: Sleeping now. Just wiggled through a bath. Judy: standing up, like he likes to do, they were making lunch BobS: HEY Guy.,........put Abby ON !!!!!!! Pamela: fell of the back of the couch? BobS: Igotta talk to that girl Guy B.: Abby's asleep on the love seat at the moment. Pamela: How was your trip home, Jillian? BobS: I got to tell her how you wouldn't take any leftovers home for her Judy: no, off the front, the cussion likes to come out and so he was on air George: i want to die Guy B.: She gets leftovers from me all the time. Pamela: oh man, poor little guy Dr.D.: George? George: yes Judy: he isn't doing to bad with it BobS: Philly George....Dr D rich-c: I think we're neglecting him Daniel Bienvenu: ... Jillian: good we hit Detroit during 'rush hour' and breezed right through. No traffic and customs took maybe ten minutes all told. Judy: it is wrapped to his chest Dr.D.: You okay? Pamela: took us about thirty seconds Meeka: sounds like something was in the air yesterday then. I fell down the stairs last night also BobS: and????????? Pamela: which stairs, Meeka? Pamela: and are you injured? Judy: did you get hurt? Meeka: comming downstairs after shutting the windows upsstairs Jillian: Clutz wave going through MIchigan? rich-c: just gotta keep her away from that Grand Rapids Brewery Meeka: pulled muscles, by no broken bones Pamela: thank goodness BobS: but she didn't brewsky any did she?????? Judy: oh, brother Meeka: no I didn't Dad Guy B.: That's not so bad. Glad it you didn't break any bones. Judy: did you get Ron off all right? Guy B.: Abby's up. Meeka: yes, I believe so. last I saw him they were scanning his shoes at check in for the gate Jillian: Glad you are ok< Meeka Pamela: his shoes? BobS: tha's right <hic>....Crapper Baral does NOT have brewwski's Pamela: I don't wanna know Daniel Bienvenu: * checking my e-mails * Dr.D.: Shoes, in case he has dynamite in the soles or something. rich-c: right Daniel - take care, remember the Saturday option Judy: that is the new thing, at the airport Pamela: Ron? That's a laugh Dr.D.: Or maybe athlete's foot... Pamela: that's more like it Dr.D.: Can't export American fungi. Pamela: : ) Jillian: :) Dr.D.: Unless they are attached to a New Zealand kiwi fruit. Judy: did you work today, Meeka? Meeka: yes Dr.D.: Or a South African apple. BobS: nite Daniel rich-c: or South African apple? Pamela: LOL Dr.D.: Except on Tuesday, when it's dark. Pamela: and they can't see into his sole rich-c: or if you're pulling a trailer - trailers are invisible to douaniers Dr.D.: Why is a priest like a cobbler? Both are menders of bad soles. rich-c: Colour it and save it for Easter Jillian: Dr D.. That joke really smelled. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Bob Pamela: nite, Daniel Dr.D.: Blame it on The Bard...I'm just quoting him! Guy B.: Bye Daniel. rich-c: bonne nuit, Daniel Dr.D.: Good night, Daniel. Pamela: blame it on the boogie? Pamela: sorry, more bad '70's songs Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not leaving... not now Dr.D.: Wm. Shakespeare, Esq., my dear. Guy B.: Looks like you were. George: Bye Daniel BobS: oh ok, thought they were bidding you goodnite so I did too !!!! Dr.D.: Lemming effect. Pamela: a rose by any other name . . . Daniel Bienvenu: who started this? rich-c: George, the fruity discussion is because US Customs siezed my apple and Frances' kiwi fruit at the border Daniel Bienvenu: Rich? Pamela: something about checking your email, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: and I have no e-mails Guy B.: It was Bob. He started it. George: i'm outta sorts rich-c: which Rich? Dr.D.: Roquefort, Roquefort, wherefore art thou, Roquefort? Deny thy salad and refuse thy name or, if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love, and I'll no longer eat a pita bread. Pamela: well, we can fix that if you want (Pamela grins evilly)
(Guy B. slaps BobS playfully) BobS: I didn't do NUTHING Pamela: precautionary measures, bob Guy B.: You thought Daniel was ready to leave.
(rich-c reboots Dr.D.'s computer remotely.) Judy: Dr, you have way to much time on your hands!!!
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changed username to Jurai29 Daniel Bienvenu: who's coming?
Jurai29 left chat session Dr.D.: Oh, there's more to that bit of faux Shakespeare...it's from a parody I did about 20 years ago. Pamela: Glamour thou art, and cawing . . . rich-c: dunno - Jurai29 is a new one to me BobS: a stealth person!!!!!! Dr.D.: "Roquefort and Julienne, or, A Shakespearean Salad Bar" rich-c: but seems to have fallen out as quickly as he came in Pamela: I never saw him Dr.D.: What's in a dressing? That which we call Bleu Cheese by any other name would smell as foul. Dr.D.: I can't believe I still remember so much of that... rich-c: but then, why would anyone want to? BobS: neither can WE Dr.D.: And I know the real Shakespeare cold after 25 years. Pamela: Judy's right, Rich, you had too much time BobS: scary huh Dr.D.: Well, if you want me to leave... Pamela: NO! Judy: no!!! Dr.D.: I come by this naturally, no drink or drugs :-) Jillian: That stuff sounds like the annuall pun fest put on at the U of Waterloo every year. BobS: and you said you were very busy.........hmmmmmmmm Judy: you do keep things interesting Dr.D.: I'm just wacko. rich-c: now that is scary! Pamela: you said it, we didn't Daniel Bienvenu: excuse me but what is going on here? somekind of joke? Dr.D.: Well, I've done many things before I started using the ADAM, and I can just draw on that backlog of stuff. rich-c: yes, Dr. D. is quoting from a parody of Shakespeare he was involved in many years ago Daniel Bienvenu: I understand this part George: i'm a nut Jillian: People are just teasing Dr. D for his punning Daniel. Pamela: no comment, George BobS: i understandf that part rich-c: because you do undertandit, or because you don't, George? George: huh? Daniel Bienvenu: ok... that part.. not this part.. Dr.D.: Christina says hello. Pamela: Hi, Christina Pamela: we missed you BobS: HI CHRISTINQA Dr.D.: "Hi Pam" says Christina. rich-c: Frances says - say hello to Christina Daniel Bienvenu: Nice to meet you Christina! Judy: hi, Christina Dr.D.: "I'm broken" says Christina (too much soccer practice today) rich-c: I say, OK - hello Christina Daniel Bienvenu: Who is Christina? Dr.D.: My eldest daughter. Guy B.: Hi Christina Dr.D.: She came to ADAMcon 007. Pamela: tell that to Meeka rich-c: One of Dr. D's charming young daughters Pamela: and AC13 briefly BobS: and to ADAMCON 13 Dr.D.: Age 15.5 give or take. BobS: da oldest Dr.D.: "I'm 15 and 7 months!" Christina corrects me. Pamela: that's very important, Rich Jillian: Hi Christina. Don't break yourself permantly. Guy B.: Look out Dr. D. You have a smart daughter. Daniel Bienvenu: I suppose I need to check the meeka web site again to see the pictures of the previous ADAMCON. BobS: sorry there/............ Dr.D.: We've just been having that conversation, Jill. Pamela: yes, breaks are not good Meeka: tell me what Pam? Pamela: neither are bends Dr.D.: The only photos of Christina online are from ADAMcon 8. Pamela: about not breaking yourself Dr.D.: That would make her 10 and 7 months :-) Judy: and she is much prettier now Meeka: oh ok, got it Dr.D.: <Christina blushes> Daniel Bienvenu: oh... a little question. Christina? do you like playing Coleco games? BobS: wel lya'll she growed up!!!!
Dr.D. changed username to Christina Jillian: I bent my ankle 18 months ago and it's still not completly healed. Guy B.: Ah, there she is. Judy: meeka, they have Fenton on QVC right now Christina: Yeah Ilike to play the games when I have the time for it. Guy B.: How are you doing Christina? Pamela: Hey Christina, be nice to Daniel - he's French Christina: Soccer is fun except when you have shin splints Meeka: question Dad, Doug wants to know what the cruise price ended up being ? Meeka: cool mom Pamela: you know, I did one of those too Jillian BobS: a LOT Christina: I took french since I was in third gradeb ut since it's the summer I can't remeber too much rich-c: Pam, Daniel isn't French, he's Quebecois BobS: haven't had time to think about that yet Pamela: Picky, picky Meeka: ya, I knew that. BobS: speak christina Christina: I'm thinking I'm thinking Pamela: if you hang around Daniel enough, you'll remember lots of it Pamela: mine is coming back to me with practice rich-c: especially if we have Fred around too BobS: Judy took french BobS: she is good at it Pamela: pourquoi pas Espanol? Judy: that is a real joke George: no Christina: With my injury I have to take 90 pills in the course of 10 days, Ice three times every day buy new running shoes and have about five hours of practice EVERY day and scrimmages rich-c: well how about that -Judy, translate for Bob when reuired, then BobS: espanol ????????? Pamela: si Daniel Bienvenu: 90 pills? in one time? Christina: Soccer is hard but I get in shape and lose about five to ten pounds evry season BobS: duos numero uno......at Mickey D's Daniel Bienvenu: of course not Pamela: that Pamela: s cheating, bob Christina: Three pills three times a day for 10 days Daniel Bienvenu: in french : Bonsoir Christina! Comment vas-tu? Pamela: are they horse pills, Christina? BobS: ibuprofen?????? Jillian: holy toledo, Christina, What on earth did you do? Guy B.: Keeps you going too. Guy B.: Be right back. Lost the rest of the messages.
Guy B. left chat session Christina: Oui, ibuprofen.
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changed username to Guy B. Daniel Bienvenu: in english : good evening Christina! How are you? Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. rich-c: she's got herself shin splints Jillian: Running on pavement? Christina: I have Shin Splints and it has been ruining my calf muscles rich-c: je pense qu'il ne faut pas traduire pour Christina BobS: NO. splintin' on her shins............. Daniel Bienvenu: I translated for all of you
(S enjoys the flowers.) Christina: Not on all pavement , running with bad shoes and on hard uneven grass in clets for three hours
(BobS smiles) Guy B.: Abby and I went to the Forest Preserve and we have seen guys doing football practice already. Pamela: merci Daniel Meeka: ok, I am gonna get off of here. I am gonna go lay down with my leg up. see ya all next week BobS: ok Meeka rich-c: right, Daniel. George's feeling are hurt when he feels left out Pamela: Meeka, please don't do that again - we like you in one piece Guy B.: Hope you feel better Meeka. Bye.
(Jillian gives BobS a can of Diet Coke.) Judy: bye Meeka, hope you feel better soon BobS: TANKS Jill rich-c: nite, Meeka -take care Meeka: yes, I will try not to Pam Daniel Bienvenu: be meeka? Pamela: take care, and see you next week Christina: BYe Meeka Daniel Bienvenu: keyboard problem... Daniel Bienvenu: bye meeka! BobS: you gonna make the team Christina?????
Meeka left chat session BobS: or just practising George: Bye Pam Christina: Yes I just found out that I made JV rich-c: know the feeling, Daniel - mine can't spell either BobS: GREAT Guy B.: That's great. Christina: That is pretty good for just starting the sport LAST year Jillian: Bye Meeka BobS: right rich-c: very well done indeed, Christina Pamela: that's terrific, Christina Judy: thats great Pamela: well done BobS: I think that all laptop and desktop keyboards have a virus in them Christina: Also I might be able to swing back in forth between JV and Varsity if I play my cards right Pamela: you just need more practice, Bob rich-c: you just discovering that? BobS: craktise ????????? Pamela: my only problem is that the enter key is too close to the apostrophe George: i goofed Pamela: yeah, like that BobS: yup Jillian: I thought Varsity was only seniors in high school. How would you get into both varsity and junior v.? Christina: Varsity is for who ever is good enough Guy B.: Well folks, got to check the e-mail. I'll try to make it this Saturday. At least I don't have to go into work that day, have to start packing for the move. Pamela: what I have trouble with is the thought of being a junior at 15.7 years George: i can't keep up with chat Christina: There are girls who made varsity as freshman and stayed there all four years Daniel Bienvenu: If you have time to play a good Coleco game.. may I suggest one of mine? http://digitalpress.5u.com/reviews/msspacefury.htm Jillian: I played soccer for about three years starting in grade 8. Pamela: Guy, I don't envy you Judy: bye, Guy Christina: Oui rich-c: I'll try to make Saturday too Guy, long as there is no race or fottball game Guy B.: You don't, eh! Daniel Bienvenu: bye Guy Jillian: Bye Guy. Guy B.: Ok, see you all later. Pamela: no sir, I intend to avoid the packing thing for as long as possible BobS: bye guy Pamela: I do wish you luck though Pamela: goodnite
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: Christina, you father has a couple of Daniel's games on his Adam emulator now Christina: Yeah what? rich-c: don't know but Guy was saying there wre a couple he especially liked Jillian: Is there a difference between the size of leagues or the schools you play as varsity or junior varsity? Christina: Oh I'll ask him Pamela: Hey Dad, the IT guy said I could keep the laptop till after our vacation in September Pamela: so I may load some stuff on it temporarily Jillian: Daniel, Dale suggested I ask you about creating some 'breakout games' for a project I'm working on. Christina: Well jv and varsity play the same teams but only the varsity team can go to championships and stuff BobS: and maybe if you "forget" to bring it in, they will forget about it too rich-c: I'm surprised he didn't offer to sell it to you - it's so outdated the company likely can't use it Daniel Bienvenu: a breakout game? Jillian: I need a maze game and a 'nim' game and some others. Pamela: no, he specifically asked me not to forgetabout it Pamela: darn spacebar Daniel Bienvenu: give me your e-mail i will send you some source codes i have... rich-c: ask him how much the replacement cost would be if you "lost" it Pamela: besides, I want a slightly more recent version for permanent use Christina: OH I SAW THE PICTURES OF THE BABY. HE IS SOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!! Jillian: I have a larger game which is not time based and I need some smaller time based games to use as 'filler' sortof. Pamela: isn't he darling? He's even better in real life Jillian: My email is firstname.lastname@example.org rich-c: OK Pam I will be checking out a used surplus store shortly that looks promising Christina: SO IS HIS MOMMY!!!!!! Daniel Bienvenu: my CV games are in C language... compiled with hi-techC compile. Jillian: Thanks Christina. Pamela: keep me posted Dad - thanks Christina: WHAT IT'S TRUE Christina: CAN HE WALK YET? Pamela: Christina, you're shouting BobS: take off the caps lock Jillian: He can pull him self up if he's holding on to something and today he took a few step while holding onto furniture for the first time. Pamela: you have a wonder child there Christina: NO, I WAS JUST LOSING MYSELF WHEN I WAS TYPING IF I WERE SHOUTING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR ME. ;-6 Jillian: I think that will be ok, but I will need to do more of my own work before I tell you for sure. Christina: Fine spoil sports
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changed username to james rich-c: Pam, check your email before you go to bed tonite Pamela: Hi, James Pamela: ok Pop Jillian: Hi James. Pamela: why? BobS: hello james BobS: how's japan ?????? james: hey, sorry i'm so late. George: Hi James rich-c: good morning, james, any good earthquakes lately? Daniel Bienvenu: hello james! Pamela: s'aright james: had trouble sleeping so i'm up late today Judy: Hi, James Daniel Bienvenu: good morning? rich-c: he's in Japan, Daniel BobS: HUH???????? Daniel Bienvenu: what time is it, James% Pamela: it's noon in Japan Daniel james: it's almost noon BobS: tis about 11am, yes???? Christina: Is JApan cool? james: it's really hot and humid Pamela: Russell just brought me a Fudgesicle rich-c: Japan doesn't go Daylight Time, james, right? Pamela: it's hard to type and eat one james: no, though there's been talk of it james: i used to be against the idea but now i think it might not be so bad james: it'd be nice if it weren't dark by 7:30 in the evening in the summer rich-c: well, down as far south as you are it doesn't make as much difference as it does up north james: i'm at about the same lattitude as boston i think. Daniel Bienvenu: oh james.. maybe you can answer this question : it is possible to find some ColecoVision games in a flea market in Japan? and also a prototype? rich-c: now back when you wre living in Ottawa, I'm sure DST was a good idea! Jillian: My mother and little sister lived in Japan for a while, Christina, and seemed to think it was ok. james: i've never seen coleco over here daniel james: as far as i know i have the only two adams in the country Daniel Bienvenu: I saw a message in a forum. Someone find a Coleco prototype in Japan. james: really? George: i have to go Christina: Elanor loves the show Iron Chef that is in Japan. They cook tond=s of strange food. BobS: and they made the ADAM in Japan............ Jillian: If you get a bachelor's you would be able to go and teach english there. I wish I was able to go. Daniel Bienvenu: yeah ... a Telly Turtle prototype cart. james: @christina, yeah, it's a neat show Pamela: okay, goodnite George BobS: nite George George: nite all rich-c: reminds me, Daniel - a friend of mine claims the Salvation Army shop in Montreal has a raft of French-language Adams on sale Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir George Jillian: Goodnight George, Good luck at the hospital. Judy: night George rich-c: I would not be surprised if any Quebec City shop had a similar stock George: poof james: so for those who went, how was the con?
George left chat session Pamela: awesome james: i'd like to make it to the next if it's in vancouver Pamela: it's in Comox, on the island Jillian: The iron chef show is a strange concept and the judges comments are so funny. Daniel Bienvenu: Salvation Army shop... I suppose in french it's "armée du salut". Pamela: Ron Pamela: 's hosting Jillian: I wonder if it seems as campy to people who are watching it in Japanese. james: heh. bacon bits for everyone Christina: Yeah and Elanor sings along and also makes funny comments james: campy? Pamela: : ) Daniel Bienvenu: bacon BobS: we goin' to the island........YEA rich-c: could be, Daniel, many organizations don't use literal translations, though rich-c: don't know what "Goodwill" or "Salvation Army" would call themselves in French BobS: would like to go for 2 weeks. there is a LOT to see there Christina: Like this dish makes me feel like i'm in the clouds with tiny fairy wings brushing up against my face Daniel Bienvenu: Did you see my picture ? Christina: and other stupid stuff like that Daniel Bienvenu: a picture of me? Judy: well, night all, I am done in so am going to call it a night BobS: where????? Pamela: non, Daniel - ou est-il? Jillian: The best definition I can give you is 'like the 60's batman show' Jillian: Good night Judy. Pamela: Good nite Judy Christina: bye Pamela: good luck with Ryan rich-c: goodnight, Judy, get a good rest - you clearly need it! Daniel Bienvenu: There is one in Digital Press web site .. and one in ccjvq videogames fan club web site too. Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir judy Pamela: no more accidents, okay?
Judy left chat session BobS: K Pamela: tks Pamela: l'addresse? Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.digitpress.com/photos.htm rich-c: anyway, Daniel, charity resale shops often have Adams Christina: well everyone I'm off and Dr. D will take over for me now! Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.ccjvq.com/index.php?ch=3 james: so did people get my message that i posted around the time the con finished? Pamela: Daniel, are they labeled so we know who's who? rich-c: and Fred was asking about French-language versions Christina: I must go rest my swollen body Daniel Bienvenu: 1..2.. test Jillian: Good night Christina. rich-c: did you get my reply? Jillian: Hela well. Christina: bye rich-c: goodnight, Christina Daniel Bienvenu: test? Pamela: night, Christina - take it easy james: i posted messages before the test messages.. Christina: ansd she's off! Pamela: DAniel, I'm getting you james: good night christina
Christina changed username to Dr.D. Daniel Bienvenu: I can't see any new messages... BRB BobS: nite Christina Jillian: Daniel-You are coming through fine here. Dr.D.: "Well, I'm back," he said. rich-c: right, I have "adamcon 14" and "chinese character" messages Pamela: Hi again Rich james: okay, guess they got through Dr.D.: Yes, that was Elanor doing the counted cross-stitch. Pamela: I havent' read those yet Dr.D.: I meant to reply and didn't. Daniel Bienvenu: test? james: we read you daniel Pamela: Daniel, we're getting you Pamela: are you getting our replies? Dr.D.: She'll be interested to know that the Asian symbol has some meaning. james: i thought since it would be adam's 20th we should think of something special. Daniel Bienvenu: What is going on.. my chat session ... it's ok now james: yeah, it means (good) fortune or luck Jillian: Dale has made that comment as well. What could we do? rich-c: we sometimes do hit glitches in this server, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I lost most of the messages but I'm still here Pamela: may have been a lag in the server, Daniel Jillian: A giant adam made of cheese? Daniel Bienvenu: Di dI send you the ccjvq url? http://www.ccjvq.com/index.php?ch=3 Pamela: or cake? (hint hint, Dr. D) Dr.D.: I can bake another ADAM console cake...but only if Ron will provide the materials and kitchen: no way I could bring it on the plane. rich-c: Daniel, there is something in this program that times folks out every once in a while Pamela: Yes, it came through rich-c: sometimes the whole gang gets tossed off and cant get back in james: brb rich-c: other times it's just one participant Jillian: We may go out on the train instead of flying. Dr.D.: I had meant to make a ColecoVision cake this time and just put off my convention prep too long. Pamela: that's really expensive, Jillian Jillian: so that may open up some possibilities. Pamela: they were saying on the news tonite that a six day trip from Toronto to Vancouver is $7000 per person rich-c: anyway, Daniel, it happens often enough that that's why we have the backup chat URL Daniel Bienvenu: a ColecoVision cake? to celebrate the 20th anniversary of this great video game system? Dr.D.: Yes. BobS: the pics don't have REAL names Daniel.....which one is YOU ??????? Jillian: that's 3 zeros on that ? More than I figured. rich-c: Pamela, that is if you chrter the whole train of three heritage cars Pamela: that's right Dr.D.: For last year's convention, I made a cake in the shape of an ADAM memory console, keyboard, and game controller. Pamela: and it was good, Rich Daniel Bienvenu: Miss SpaceFury creator ... I think Dr.D.: I had made a similar cake for our local users' group picnic in 1995 or so. Jillian: oh I was more thinking of 2 bunks not the whole train. Dr.D.: Pam, you should look at my Jan-In-The-Pan cake, then. Pamela: check out www.viarail.com - it will give you some idea of the cost Dr.D.: Photos of which are online. rich-c: well, two movie producers chartere4d a special train - the story was in the papers this morning Pamela: your what? Dr.D.: My Jan-In-The-Pan cake. Daniel Bienvenu: Dr.D - Take a picture of the cake... I want to put a picture like it in my Coleco web site. Pamela: whazzat? Dr.D.: Re: ADAM cake, I will send you a link to a photo. Pamela: okay Pamela: sorry, that was for Daniel, wasn't it? Dr.D.: Re: Jan-In-The-Pan, she is a famous character from a grade Z movie called "The Brain That Wouldn't Die". Pamela: oh, that one - Elanor mentioned that on Saturday Daniel Bienvenu: It's me! http://www.ccjvq.com/membre/d-bienvn.jpg Pamela: something about a severed head rich-c: Daniel, what rich-c: s your coleco website? Dr.D.: Some mad scientist's girlfriend dies in a car crash and he keeps her head alive in a pan with tubes coming out of it. james: back BobS: gotta go kids..........later DUDES and DUDETTES james: dr. d sounds like a high budget flick there Pamela: so soon Bob? Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir bob Dr.D.: When the gang from "Mystery Science Theatre 3000" did their stuff on it, they actually had someone play Jan during a host segment. Pamela: g'nite, Bob BobS: ya it is back to regular bedtime now that conventin is over Jillian: Bob before you go can I see you in the garden? BobS: POOF.....Ouch, hit the wall..........
Jillian moved to room The Garden Dr.D.: When the local group from the CWRU Film Society had a MST3K marathon last month, I made a Jan-In-The-Pan cake. Daniel Bienvenu: yeah.. my coleco web site. url www.geocities.com/newcoleco BobS: poof.....thas bettrer........
BobS left chat session Dr.D.: The girls loved it... Dr.D.: You can see it at http://drushel.cwru.edu/films/mst3k/
Jillian moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: thats Daniel, I'll take a look Pamela: guess Bob didn't catch that, Jillian Pamela: I'm going to check these out tomorrow at work, where i have a better download speed Jillian: Oh well. I wanted to talk to him about the phone charges. there were $125US of charges which we were asked to pay when we checked out of the hotel.\ Dr.D.: ??? Pamela: holy s**t Daniel Bienvenu: ok.. I'm lost again. Pamela: there weren't that many calls on the bill rich-c: how on earth did you manage that, Jillian? Jillian: The calls started before we arrived and the hotel was unable to tell us what room they were made from. Dr.D.: I know that they must have tacked on some extra charges for long distance stuff, because my 2 brief calls to Cleveland totalled $17.xx. rich-c: was Dale holding hour-long conversations with Neil? Daniel Bienvenu: cross-talking ... I think I have a headack! Pamela: hang on, let me go get my copy of the bill Dr.D.: But I knew the exact phone numbers called and the lady at the desk was able to look them up. Daniel Bienvenu: Dr. D. I saw your cakes! take a picture of your Coleco cake ... I want a ColecoVision cake for my web site. james: rich - what do you have in the way of programming manuals? Jillian: They were all to a 905-373-4***. we didn't make them and managed to convince the hotel of that. but I don't want Bob to be stuck with them either Dr.D.: I haven't baked a ColecoVision cake yet, Daniel, but when I do, I will be sure to take lots of photos of it. rich-c: you want Z80 stuff, don't you, james? Dr.D.: Wonder where (905) is. james: i need something to get started Jillian: Most of the calls were for ten minute lengths or so. james: 905 is.. scarborough (outside toronto) no? Daniel Bienvenu: dr.d - thanks! rich-c - z80 stuff? like what? rich-c: Rich, 905 surrounds Toronto, with a bulge towards the west Pamela: 905 is GTA, outside Toronto proper Jillian: 905 is just out side of toronto, not scarborough, durham, markham, mississauga etc. rich-c: Scarboro is part of Toronto (416) or (647) Pamela: York, Durham, Vaughan, Markham, Mississauga etc james: http://www.cnac.ca/ac905.htm Dr.D.: 905 ON Ontario (Hamilton, Toronto suburbs and central southeastern Ontario, overlays with 289)<Eastern Time Zone> james: markham area Dr.D.: I looked it up at http://www.mmiworld.com/codelist.htm rich-c: sorry, I'm lost in the crosstalk - james, what is your specific want? james: oshawa, oakville. st. catherines james: sorry rich - Dr.D.: Well, *someone* from Canada must have been calling there... james: i have one of mel ostler's books (hacker james: 's helper) Jillian: Dale made two local hour long calls to his ISP and I made one 1-800 call. james: and some other reference Jillian: I phoned the number on Dale's cell and it connects to a modem or fax. james: but what i really need is the beginner z80 stuff to get going Pamela: I know there was someone else from Ontario in the hotel, I saw the van with the ONtario plate rich-c: OK james I will dig through what I can find and let you know Dr.D.: Hmmm...then how could the hotel not know what room it was coming from? james: thanks rich james: when i'm back over at the school, i'll get the exact titles i have. Pamela: I wonder whether they just saw the Ontario reservations with our group and assumed they were ours Jillian: I wish I had taken a copy of the number. The phone calls were intermixed with our room charges on the bill. james: i'd say to call the hotel and ask them to go through their guest list again Pamela: they couldn't separate out any of the other charges either, including Rons or Rich's Dr.D.: At check-in, I asked about needing a credit card to cover phone charges for my room, and the lady said that it was all being done under one credit card. rich-c: Isn't Dale's current ISP in the 905 area? Dr.D.: Presumably BobS. Pamela: 905-373-4305 Pamela: I have the bill in front of me james: pam, that's dale's isp's phone number? Daniel Bienvenu: Dale Wick phone number? Jillian: No Dale uses ATT with local numbers covering the US and Canada and cable at home. Pamela: no , that Pamela: is the number with all the charges to it Dr.D.: I believe what I did last year was have the hotel *disable* all long-distance phone stuff for all the convention rooms unless each occupant specifically went to the front desk and made arrangements. Dr.D.: Though that memory may be false. Jillian: It makes sense to do is that way Rich. Pamela: starts Thursday at 9:06 pm, before Dale and Jillian checked in Dr.D.: But that way each room's calls went to each room's occupants, or else no calls would be permitted. james: that number is a dialup number for an isp caled eagle.ca in cobourg ontario james: http://ontario.findanisp.com/city/ON/Cobourg/15404 rich-c: OK, that is Murray's ISP Dr.D.: Isn't the web great? james: it's at the top of the list in that link james: :D Pamela: there you go Jillian Dr.D.: Now we have to catch Murray before he goes off to the Amazon... james: so now you know whose legs to break Pamela: I'm sure he'll thank you for that James Dr.D.: Urgh, he should have just gotten a throwaway NetZero account. james: glad to be of service :D Jillian: He assured the hotel that he didn't make any long distance calls. What an unpleasant surprise that will be. Dr.D.: The one I use is the same one I activated for ADAMcon 09! Dr.D.: And have basically only used it about 2x per year just to keep it alive. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm lost... If you need me just say "DANIEL". brb rich-c: I just got a prepaid internet disc from Sprint - 480 min/$10 Dr.D.: And now the 486 it's installed on is so slow, the new NetZero software updates and ads can't even load on it! So I never see the banner stuff. Pamela: I'm partially to blame for the confusion Jillian - I was picking off area codes and thought you two were the only ones who would call a 905 number Dr.D.: And even though they've dropped from 40 free hrs/month to just 10, I never used the 10 hours during ADAMcon. Jillian: Apparently there were a group of people all checking out at the same time and they just assumed that the rest of the calls were ours. I almost fell over when they asked for $125. Pamela: I also recognised Ron's call and Rich's james: it's so easy to forget how many people and to whom you've made calls Pamela: I asked for a copy of the bill to ensure we had one at the border, just in case they asked for proof. Do you want me to fax it to you? rich-c: it occurs to me that their accounting standards definitely left something to be desired Dr.D.: ? To prove you actually stayed in a hotel in the US? Jillian: Because Dale has free access through his company, we rarely make long distance calls. rich-c: which is surprising since they are a Canadian-owned chain Pamela: To prove how long we'd been away Dr.D.: I see. rich-c: the amount we can bring home duty-free expands with time away Jillian: I was really upset that they couldn't tell me which room the calls had come from. Pamela: well, they obviously knew it was someone in our group, just not which someone rich-c: still, their software should have called it out precisely Jillian: I don't need a copy Pam, but perhaps Bob should be told that the number is an ISP in Coburg. Pamela: don't forget, it was all being billed under Bob so they hadn't intended to separate them Dr.D.: Stay a year, bring home a car! Dr.D.: :-) Pamela: good idea Jillian - will send him an e-mail rich-c: actually, Dr. D., cards are so much cheaper here your delars are coming up and stripping the market Dr.D.: Really?!? Jillian: Every other hotel that I have dealt with keeps track seperatly. james: you know, i don't remember where i read it, but there's a hotel somewhere using an adam Jillian: Even if it is all billed to one account. rich-c: yes, and the manufacturers are trying to stop grey market sales, Canadian dealers to US Pamela: I've never run into the problem one way or the other - I use my calling card for this stuff rich-c: Ford and Daimler-Chrysler won't honour warranties in the US for cars sold in Canada Pamela: or my cell phone Dr.D.: Well, check-ins to ADAMcon IV were done using an ADAM set up in the lobby. rich-c: and james, that motel in Rhode Island was using a Logo program to handle its internal messaging james: cool Dr.D.: If the motel was "Gargamel's Castle" I'd be thrilled :-) rich-c: they had no cable so they used the program to announce what videos would be run and stuff like that james: yeah, that's what i remember reading now Dr.D.: Where? When? Ref? Jillian: We've become so dependent on our cell phone that I rarely even think to pick up a wall phone when not at home. Dr.D.: I don't want a cell phone. I have the right to be incommunicado. james: everyone here has a cel phone but i don't want one rich-c: the program writer even attended one Adamcon that I can recall and maybe a second james: there's something to be said for being able to get away without people bothering you Jillian: We didn't answer the cell phone during the con and still people were calling. More than3 per day. rich-c: I have a cell phone - in the truck. I think I have used it twice in five years. Pamela: I have one for emergency purposes and when I need to get in touch with someone while I'm out. It's much easier than trying to find a pay phone and a quarter james: might be handy for emergencies i guess Jillian: I don't always want a cell phone, but if I am going to be late or I get lost I really miss them. rich-c: yes, mine is to call emergency road service if I have a breakdown while touring Pamela: I leave mine off much of the time, only on when I've asked someone to call me or I'm calling out Jillian: I have friends who have both cell phones and pagers, but no land line. Dr.D.: If people know you have one, they expect to be able to reach you anytime they feel like it. That's what I've observed, anyway. rich-c: when you're stuck 40 miles from Flyspeck, TN and need a truck that can handle car and trailer... Pamela: um, bob's email is still email@example.com? Dr.D.: And they are P.O.ed if you don't answer it. Dr.D.: My 24/7 access portal is firstname.lastname@example.org :-) Jillian: I'm always surprised at people who talk on their cell like it's nothing. I've been offered a cell when out to dinner with people and mentioned that I need to make a call. Pamela: I don't give the number to anyone rich-c: mine only works when plugged into the car cigarette lighter socket Jillian: Dale uses his for business mostly, but lots of people don't. Jillian: that's fine unless your battery is dead, Rich Pamela: can someone verify Bob's address? Pamela: sorry, email? rich-c: even a "dead" battery will usually have enough kick to power the phone, Jill Dr.D.: Bad things happen :-( They happened before there were cell phones and pagers and GPS transponders. We survived without it then... Jillian: My dad's is the same way and the last time I went to visit him we ended up stuck on the side of the highway becuase his car wasn't charging right. rich-c: the nice thing about the plug-in phones is that they have a longer range Dr.D.: I am a Luddite. Jillian: Dale thinks it is email@example.com Pamela: you know, the day I was going to get my first cell was the day my ignition module conked out at 1:00 am in the middle of Dufferin and Lawrence rich-c: he's right, Jill, though the rslopsema works too Pamela: I was really sorry that I hadn't picked it up Pamela: netzero.com, not net? rich-c: I think it's .net Jillian: I'm checking the hollowdreams website Dr.D.: The webpage is www.netzero.net, just checked it. rich-c: Jill, what is torfun.com? Jillian: firstname.lastname@example.org Pamela: Thanks Jillian - brb Dr.D.: www.netzero.com redirects to www.netzero.net
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changed username to Dr.D. Jillian: torfun means something else in 'polynesian?' some other language anyway Dr.D.: Okay, call me Apple-Q, hit the wrong key and killed the browser. Jillian: Lots of ads on the display pages. rich-c: it's a web-based mail deal, like hotmail, right? Pamela: Well done, Rich Jillian: That's ok Dr. D. Fumble fingers are forgivable. Dr.D.: I wanted to kill the NetZero window that opened up and absent-mindedly killed the whole browser app. Pamela: Okay, I fired an email to Bob about those calls Dr.D.: Apple-W was what I should have typed. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm back... what's up here? Pamela: very little Daniel Dr.D.: Not me for much longer (that is a pun, "up"="awake"). rich-c: tracking down strange long distance charges mostly, Daniel Pamela: we were chasing email addresses Dr.D.: I think I am going to bed... rich-c: sounds like an eminently sensible idea, Rich Jillian: Yes it is. Rich. I log in at mail.torfun.com rich-c: I will likely emulate it very shortly Pamela: given that it's 11:45 it's not a bad idea Dr.D.: Still not totally recovered from moving day Tuesday and all of ADAMcon activities. Pamela: ah, a Rich emulator Dr.D.: Need another day of sleep to get caught up, which I won't get anytime soon :-( james: yeah, i gotta go shower eat and then teach (back to the grind today) so i will see you all soon. Pamela: I hear sleep is good - no one's ever proved it to me though Dr.D.: Rich emulator...that's the ticket. Daniel Bienvenu: I hope it's not my fault! rich-c: I'll try to manage that for you, Rich ;-) Daniel Bienvenu: My games could be too addicitve. james: :D Pamela: : ) rich-c: no, Daniel, actually we usually pack it in about 11 p.m. Daniel Bienvenu: i know that... rich-c: you just get us going with such fascinating stuff we lose track of time Pamela: however, which Rich is which? Pamela: (sorry) Dr.D.: I am ADAMnet device #33...time to call LD A,33 then CALL SOFT_RES_DEV james: so rich, if you get the chance to get some programming stuff, i'd be really appreciative. rich-c: I'm retires, so I can afford it, but the others aren't so lucky rich-c: james, will look about, let you know rich-c: Pam, check your email Dr.D.: (Soft Reset Device in Register A) james: thanks rich Jillian: Have a good dayJames. james: will do. you too jillian Pamela: I will Dad, it's come through, I just haven't read it yet Dr.D.: Good night/day to all... james: or a good night, i guess. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit! Pamela: bon jour and bonne nuit to all Dr.D.: Merci, Daniel! Jillian: I'm just waiting for Jeffy to wake up. rich-c: and goodnight to all from here too Dr.D.: <reset>
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rich-c left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: à la prochaine! Pamela: Jillian, give Jeff a good nite kiss for me Pamela: and hugs for you since I didn't get to say goodbye on Monday Jillian: Daniel I will create some more definite specifications for what I need for games and get back to you. I'm looking to have my project done for the next con. james: salut daniel - si possible j'aimerais vous parler a qqtemps au sujet des jeux Jillian: Good night Pam, thanks. Daniel Bienvenu: SO we have time to figure out what you need Daniel Bienvenu: james : pas de problème Pamela: good nite James - say hi to your fambly too Pamela: Daniel, bonne nuit Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Pam! Pamela: poof! james: night pam
Pamela left chat session james: j'aimerais apprendre comment les fabriquer Jillian: Yes we do. Have you ever seen the Adambomb2 game? that is the UI I'm starting from. Daniel Bienvenu: james : my Coleco web site is for you. james: cool. james: so far i'm trying to get references etc so i can get going on the z80 stuff Jillian: This is the first game I have ever attempted to create. Daniel Bienvenu: James : I'm not writing games in z80 ASM... but in C language so it's easy to learn. james: i've never attempted one james: cool. i already know c (very rusty though) james: so you have a compiler that goes from c to adam executable? Daniel Bienvenu: Jillian : I saw the ADAMCON 14 pictures... I think it's a GREAT GAME! Daniel Bienvenu: I said I think because I don't play it Daniel Bienvenu: james : I use a cp/m compiler and a coleco library made by Marcel de Kogel to do Coleco games. Jillian: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/3938/z80_home.htm is a good reference for z80 beginnings. james: okay, i'd like to talk to you, if you could get me going from scratch, i'd appreciate it. james: cp/m compiler for adam? Daniel Bienvenu: james : it's a C compiler for the CP/m and I use a PC to compile my source code. Jillian: I'm planning to program in either C or basic but I really need to brush up on both. james: okay, so you compile it on a regular pc and then what? Daniel Bienvenu: I think ADAMCON need a BASIC compiler. Jillian: Dale wrote Express Basic compiler which compiles to z80 code and allows inline assembly james: daniel, can you hook me up with some software to get going? Daniel Bienvenu: james : then I test the binary code with an emulator. james: okay, cool. Daniel Bienvenu: ok! URL : http://www.geocities.com/newcoleco/help/indexen.html Daniel Bienvenu: this is my first try to help newbie to learn how to compile a Coleco game with hitech-C compiler Jillian: There is a problem with games in the emulator that sometimes the fire and the drop keys sometimes switch. Daniel Bienvenu: download the z80.zip file "The result : z80 directory" to avoid some installing steps. james: thanks! Jillian: express basic will be downloadable sometime this week. Jillian: Dale gave it out at AC14. james: i'm definitely going to play with this Daniel Bienvenu: jill - it's a good news. do you think I will be able to try it? Jillian: I think that I am going to try the basic first. I really hated C when I had to use it in school. Jillian: yes, he gave it out with source so that others could even work on improving the compiler. james: very cool Daniel Bienvenu: Jill : I fully understand you... using C the first time is not "natural". Jillian: I will try to make sure the website gets updated and comfirm the address next week. james: my first programming language (after logo of course!) was pascal james: lunch time. thanks again daniel Jillian: I worked with Pascal as well. but was required to switch to c in 2nd year. Daniel Bienvenu: no problem! james: we'll talk again soon! a prochaine Daniel Bienvenu: I hope I will be able to help you doing Coelco games. Jillian: I had better go as well. Jeffy will wake up soon. I hope we get to talk games next week. Daniel Bienvenu: à la prochaine! Jillian: Goodnight. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit! james: *poof*
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