(Colecoguy groans loudly)
(<s> reboots <o>'s computer remotely.)
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changed username to Pamela Pamela: well hello coleco guy, who are you? Colecoguy: Hello Pam Colecoguy: How are you just returned from the trailer Pamela: Guy, is that you? Colecoguy: no its Michael H. Pamela: MICHAEL! Colecoguy: Yes!!!!! Pamela: how are you babe? Pamela: long time no see or hear Colecoguy: Hang'n in sweety Colecoguy: been away for almost 4 months Pamela: to answer your question, no I logged on from the trailer Pamela: have you been up at your trailer? Colecoguy: Yea I know called your dad tonight as I arrived home yesterday Pamela: good call, he was worried about you Colecoguy: Yes I just returned have to go to docs and lawyers these next two weeks Pamela: so was I for that matter Pamela: where is your trailer? Colecoguy: Well I'm fine and sorry I neglected to call anyone but I needed the time for myself Colecoguy: In Hastings outside of Peterborough Pamela: I can understand needing downtime, that's why we're up here Pamela: stoopid laptop keyboard is too small Colecoguy: well I had alot to consider with regards to law suit and so I just took the time to exscape Pamela: law suit? Pamela: fill me in Colecoguy: long story not for here to be explained will fill you in when you return Colecoguy: quite personal Pamela: okay. Are you going to come and have lunch with me one day when I get back? Colecoguy: Yes for sure I will be returning to the trailler after next friday and will return mid Oct so we'll get to gether sometime after I return Pamela: next friday meaning the 143TH? Pamela: whoops - I mean the 13th Colecoguy: I have to go up and pack up and look after Lornes sisiter inlaws house and dogs till then Colecoguy: yes Pamela: well I'm back to work on the 10th so if you can squeeze me in, let me know Colecoguy: as she is going to Florida for a vaction and I will have to be there to make sure the house is heated etc
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changed username to rich-c Pamela: here we go Pamela: hi, Dad Colecoguy: the 11th and 12th I have appts with lawyers but will try to get you on the 13th rich-c: hi daughter, see you made it, Michael too Pamela: works for me Pamela: yup rich-c: Michael and I talked by phone earlier Colecoguy: call me at home and see if I can make it if you think of it (416) 962-8379 Pamela: Hey Dad, we saw Northern lights last night Pamela: hold on, let me write that down rich-c: thats great, even if they wre over us we'd never notice in the city glare
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changed username to BobS Pamela: Michael, is that the same number as before? Pamela: Hi, Bob BobS: howdy ya'll Colecoguy: saw the lights quite abit when I was up in Sudbury area last year rich-c: Greetings, Robert Colecoguy: hello Bob
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changed username to George_Wahl Colecoguy: spent about 4 months outa toronto rich-c: undefined will declare himself as soon as he figures out how the thing works rich-c: hello George BobS: GEorge !!!!!! Pamela: Hi, George George_Wahl: Hi everyone rich-c: see you've decided to go formal on us tonight BobS: a looooooong vacation eh? rich-c: is that because you knew Michael Hurst would be on, George? Colecoguy: hey gyes very good for me brings me back very refreshed George_Wahl: no , who? Colecoguy: Thats me Colecoguy rich-c: Michael is another old-time Adam user Colecoguy: hello George George_Wahl: hi rich-c: watch out, he's Canadian, so may break into French any minute George_Wahl: oh, no Colecoguy: oh yes
(Colecoguy smiles) Pamela: Michael, parlez vous francais? George_Wahl: huh? Colecoguy: oui Colecoguy: eh vous George_Wahl: oh, brother Pamela: oui monsieur rich-c: ici, on dit "est-ce que tu parle..." Colecoguy: opps remember its english time folks George_Wahl: english please
(A dog howls in the distance) BobS: holy WHAT ????? Pamela: ici, we say as little as possible rich-c: we do, Michael, but when Freddie or Daniel come on we may have to help them out'
(Colecoguy winks) rich-c: their English is far better than our French, but they arent quite perfect yet Colecoguy: you betcha rich-c: by the way, trust everyone saw the note from Guy about why he may not be here George_Wahl: i only know US english BobS: but they make themselves abundantly clear BobS: yup
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changed username to FredK FredK: Hi All Colecoguy: and I only know English engklish rich-c: good, here's Fred now - bonjour! Pam on Vacation: I haven't seen my email - what did he say? Pam on Vacation: Hi Fred Colecoguy: hello fred welcome George_Wahl: hi Fred rich-c: outlet trouble in the new apartment, may not be able to get online tonight Pam on Vacation: is he moved already? rich-c: yes, he's in the new place and getting settled FredK: Guy? Pam on Vacation: wow, that didn't take long rich-c: right, Fred Colecoguy: brb BobS: what's this "pamela on vacation" stuff??????? George_Wahl: Guy B., ithink Colecoguy: she's not at home Bob Pam on Vacation: surely you're familiar with the concept, Bob
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changed username to Dr.D. Pam on Vacation: I'm logged in from the trailer FredK: Pam you have a margarita in one hand and laptop in the other? rich-c: allo Dr. D Pam on Vacation: HI Rich FredK: Hi Dr.D Colecoguy: dor D you are here!! Hello from Torornto George_Wahl: Hi Dr. D Dr.D.: I am here, sorry for the delay. BobS: for crying out loud.....EVERYONE has a vacation trailer??????? Pam on Vacation: basically (although it's a sundae, not a margarita) Colecoguy: Doc D I meant BobS: Dr D !!!!! VELCOME Dr.D.: I have actually been working on ADAM stuff today. FredK: Lol rich-c: hey, great, what have you been up to? Colecoguy: and what would that be rich Dr.D.: "Pam on Vacation", wherezat, Pam? Colecoguy: oh no not agian Pam Dr.D.: Restoring ADAM schematics. Pam on Vacation: at my mother-in-law's trailer just south of Sutton, ON Colecoguy: Oh good job Dr.D.: Okay, if that topic was beat to death, I withdraw the question. Pam on Vacation: about an hour outside of Metro rich-c: right, Daniel needs the disc drive schematics FredK: That idea is SOLD to me... BobS: si rich-c: you using long distance to Tamco, Pam? Pam on Vacation: Just Russell and my self - no cats, no work Dr.D.: Well, I have something that's only about 50% restored (compared to what I will ultimately have), but he can look at the following PDF: Pam on Vacation: no mother in law BobS: OUCH.....LD charges will kill ya !!!! Dr.D.: http://drushel.cwru.edu/diskboard0.pdf Pam on Vacation: yes Dad Dr.D.: Be warned, it's 4.5 MB... Pam on Vacation: nope, .10/min up to a max of $20.00 Pam on Vacation: per month rich-c: if that gets too expensive, 10-10-100 will keep it to 7 cents/min Pam on Vacation: evenings and weekends George_Wahl: i finished my second sleep study Dr.D.: The PDF is just a snapshot of the cleanup as of when I went home today...but I've been working on it some tonight. Pam on Vacation: just as loong as we don't log on during the day we're okay Pam on Vacation: how did that go George? Pam on Vacation: were you able to sleep? Pam on Vacation: hello? rich-c: Fred has problems, but Daniel has an account from his days at Laval that should allow big downloads George_Wahl: better with the breathing machine Pam on Vacation: I gather this was to check for sleep apnea George_Wahl: i forget what they call it rich-c: the main thing is, did you sleep long and deeply enough for them to get a reading? Dr.D.: It's a 1200 dpi greyscale image of that full-sized schematic...the result is that it will fit on a single 8.5x11 page. Dr.D.: I am still inventing the best way to process the scans, so this first one has gone very slowly, with some false steps. George_Wahl: yes, this time was much better Dr.D.: It's not the cleanest of the bunch, either (though not the worst). rich-c: know what you mean, Rich - it's very cut and try Dr.D.: I'm removing all the xeroxing artifacts and fixing all illegible text. rich-c: now there is a fun job - yeah! Dr.D.: In some cases this has meant go back to an actual disk drive and look at the circuit board.
moved to room Meeting Place Dr.D.: Or download a chip manual from the net in order to see what some pins of chips are supposed to be labelled. rich-c: it would be so neat if we could find someone who could fix Coleco floppies
changed username to Colecoguy Dr.D.: But if you look at even this preliminary PDF, in the places where I've cleaned it up, it is really very nice. Pam on Vacation: someone who wasn't half way across the continent would be nice too Dr.D.: The schematic is actually rather simple. rich-c: yes, the challenge lies in knowing what to do with it rich-c: and then in finding the pieces to do it Dr.D.: I would imagine most floppy problems are drives out of calibration, or else with failed on-drive voltage regulator circuits. BobS: Daniel Elliot was very good at it, but he is not doing it anymore......and it was almost cheaper to find another drive than send it to be dixed George_Wahl: where is Daniel? BobS: still cost about $50 US with very minimum parts Dr.D.: You need a scope and a special calibration disk in order to do it right. Dr.D.: Richard, do you have a postal address for Dale? FredK: he mentionned brb i think earlier rich-c: yes, Howard Pines had them, and maybe Phil Kosowski BobS: got into financila troble and put everyting aside to get out of debtr by workin hard rich-c: yes Rich gimme a minute Dr.D.: You can E-mail it to me, Richard. Dr.D.: I have some stuff that Dale asked me to send him, that's now ready to be sent. Dr.D.: Had he asked 2 days earlier, before ADAMcon, I could have brought it to him :-) Pam on Vacation: or you can e-mail Jillian directly at firstname.lastname@example.org Dr.D.: I also didn't know a current E-mail address for either of them, Pam. Dr.D.: adamcon.org still says @home.com stuff, which I know is now inactive. Pam on Vacation: got that on the chat acouple of weeks ago Rich Pam on Vacation: I know that's current Colecoguy: try @rogers.com Dr.D.: I must have missed it :-( rich-c: Rich, can't find teh address but have two working email addresses Pam on Vacation: I'm not sure you were here rich-c: email@example.com is his business email Dr.D.: Okay, I'll use those, Richard. You also should have seen my spam to the list, but I guess it got lost in Dale's daily deluge of E-mail. Dr.D.: Thanks, Richard. rich-c: personal is firstname.lastname@example.org Colecoguy: oh no more rogers hi speed Pam on Vacation: Dad, we saw northern lights in the Gaspe when we were in Quebec, right? rich-c: yes, a very good display in the National Park there Pam on Vacation: good, I'm gladd I'm not imagining it rich-c: that would be at Forillon Pam on Vacation: was telling R about it last night rich-c: you have seen them a few other times too, Pam Pam on Vacation: last night's display was not as spectacular but was good nonetheless Pam on Vacation: at home once if I'm not mistaken right? rich-c: all green or did you get some other colours? Pam on Vacation: all green, verrrry pale George_Wahl: i had to increase font size rich-c: just along the northern horizon, or spread a bit to the sides? Pam on Vacation: from NW right over to NE Pam on Vacation: in an arc rich-c: more sheets or spears up towards the zenith? Pam on Vacation: both Pam on Vacation: for well over an hour rich-c: sounds pretty good - Fred, did you notice an aurora last night? Pam on Vacation: 'twas very neat FredK: unftly not Rich FredK: Thunder istead rich-c: pity, you're much further north than we are FredK: Yes it would have been great rich-c: and I gather you're far enough out of the city to ewscape the gross light pollution Pam on Vacation: we had an incredibly clear sky and it was very dark in the park - no one is here during the week rich-c: and if I recall last night was for all practical purposes moonless FredK: Correct!! thats my reward for fighting through traffic daily Pam on Vacation: ooooh, ahhhhh George_Wahl: calm down Pam rich-c: Oh - Fred and George, and Rich - attention please Pam on Vacation: don't wanna Dr.D.: Only ever saw auroras here once, night of the Perseid meteor shower 3 years ago.
(The lights sudddenly go out) Dr.D.: Rather, 3 showers ago. rich-c: I will most likely be skipping chat on Saturday rich-c: unfortunately it conflicts with teh football game and Toronto is playing FredK: R u go nuts? Pam on Vacation: the Perseids were Aug 12th this year - the day we were returning from the con Dr.D.: I will be helping to assemble playground equipment at the elementary school. Colecoguy: while I was up at the trailer I saw a meter shower can't remember name of comet it came from George_Wahl: oh, male sports rich-c: well, Fred, I do have my suspicions about Argo fans, that's true Dr.D.: All overcast here on the 12th, 2 years in a row I see no Perseids :-( Pam on Vacation: not just for men anymore George - Russell has made me a fan too FredK: LOL Rich Colecoguy: was it the Perseids I saw Pam on Vacation: it must have been incredible out there Michael Dr.D.: I've been watching Perseids since about 1973 (age 11). Colecoguy: yea I got up at 3am and watched til 5am as sun came up rich-c: Saturday afternoon programs are always a hazard in September through November Pam on Vacation: I stayed up last year until 5:00 am to watch them but it was mostly overcast Dr.D.: 2 AM 'til dawn is best. Pam on Vacation: I did see some through breaks in the clouds Dr.D.: The earth is rotating into the comet path at your location then. Pam on Vacation: and what I saw was spectacular Colecoguy: I just remember the weather man telling me to be out there to see it Dr.D.: Haven't seen them as well as when I was still in college living at home (in the country, away from lights). Colecoguy: I had a perfect night no clouds and a moon that wasn't into first quarter Dr.D.: Most years I'm lucky to see what I can from the roof of a building at CWRU, or the back yard. rich-c: in Toronto, we have a bad case of orange sky syndrome Dr.D.: With the light pollution around here, you only see the super-bright ones. Pam on Vacation: I'm hoping that next year will be our weekend at the trailer so we can get a good look at them Pam on Vacation: every year so far, he's been working or we've been away rich-c: probably turn out it's the Adamcon 15 weekend George_Wahl: i just started watching the leonids last November Pam on Vacation: probably FredK: And 15 is planned for where? Colecoguy: all I an say was it was spectacular I laid on a blanket on the ground with PJ and we watched and really enjoyed it Dr.D.: I never saw any Leonids, though I used to look as a teenager. November in Northeast Ohio is just too cloudy. rich-c: Comox, B.C. Colecoguy: it was the first time for me George_Wahl: too far Pam on Vacation: could you actually see anything George? Pam on Vacation: I'm looking forward to spending Canadian dollars this time George_Wahl: yes, i think something hit me in the head rich-c: behave yourself, George, or we'll put 16 in Quebec City Dr.D.: I even almost froze to death looking for Comet Kohoutek in Feb. 1975...it was a bust unless you had a telescope, which I didn't then. FredK: like YVR nice place to be.. rich-c: then you'll have to speak French FredK: George please ACT UP!
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changed username to Ron Pam on Vacation: Hi, Ron Colecoguy: well folks its been a blast but I have to go I have an early appt but will return more often rich-c: greetings to the Wet Coast Dr.D.: Parlez-vous Z80? :-) Colecoguy: hell ROn BobS: the mighty one!!!!! Ron: Have no fear, Mighty Mitchell is here FredK: Hi Ron George_Wahl: huh? Ron: Yo! All Colecoguy: night all rich-c: see you Michael, take care Dr.D.: Hi Ron. FredK: ooooo Dr.D.: Bye Colecoguy. Pam on Vacation: Michael, call me! George_Wahl: Hi Ron Ron: Michael, was it something I said? FredK: Salut Daniel!! Colecoguy: tell me number BobS: be good Michael Pam on Vacation: 416-960-7901 Pam on Vacation: leave me a voicemail Dr.D.: 1-800-I81-U812 Colecoguy: no Ron have an early appt at hospital, got ti pam will try and reach you on the 10th FredK: rather od to give yr number on Vac. Pam on Vacation: do that please - I miss you George_Wahl: (215) 632-7425 Pam on Vacation: no, that's work Fred Ron: ah, I see FredK: even worse Colecoguy: see you all soonest take care and be well Pam on Vacation: when I get back we're going to have lunch Pam on Vacation: take care, Michael Colecoguy: ok Pam I look forward to it Dr.D.: Ron, I have been thinking about your quiz program for ADAMcon 15. Pam on Vacation: me too FredK: Bonne Nuit Daniel
Colecoguy left chat session Pam on Vacation: No, that was Michael, Fred FredK: spinning rise round here... Pam on Vacation: I'm gonna dump my history - be right back BobS: oh, oh Ron: and?
Pam on Vacation left chat session FredK: Sundae? rich-c: think I missed something here FredK: the worst is that they say history repeats itself!!!! Ron: Some brain teasing mind twister has presented itself?
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changed username to Pam on vacation Dr.D.: Hello, Pam. We have always been at war with Oceania. rich-c: Pam is using a borrowed laptop with little memory and a small hadr disc Pam on vacation: I wasn't gone that long - what was this, cryostasis? FredK: LOL DRD Dr.D.: Fred gets it :-) George_Wahl: huh? Dr.D.: Shall I explain? George_Wahl: please Ron: I missed something here Pam on vacation: please do - R can't remember the reference FredK: crapy story i think DRD Ron: multi tasking system...single channel mind rich-c: has to do with 1984 Dr.D.: Okay...Pam said she was leaving to "dump her history"
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: as in down the memory hole FredK: we got another impression Dr.D.: Something that happened alot in Orwell's "1984".
changed username to Judy FredK: lol rich-c: hello Judy, come to keep an eye on the old man? Ron: Sorry, you're engaged in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent Pam on vacation: Hi Judy Ron: I never read 1984 George_Wahl: i have a memory lapse Judy: Hello, all Dr.D.: Who IngSoc was at war with changed periodically...but everyone pretended that the current enemy was always their enemy. FredK: lol Ron Judy: no I can do that in person George_Wahl: Hi Judy Dr.D.: Ron, really? Ron: that's right Dr.D.: Ouch, you really ought to read it. Judy: how is the vacation Pam FredK: Hi Judy Pam on vacation: I've never read it either Ron: Yes I certainly should Dr.D.: See what our Office of Homeland Security is trying to create... Ron: along with 99% of the worlds great literature Pam on vacation: we just got here last night Judy but so far, it's wonderful Dr.D.: Good gravy, so much for English Lit. rich-c: well, it was chilling in 1948, but too close to home in 2002 Dr.D.: Bloody true in 2002.... Judy: we just got home Monday and I would like to leave again Ron: Hey! I'm only the author. obviously everyone else around here got the reference, so by all means go for it
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changed username to DanB Pam on vacation: well the good news and the bad news is that Russell gets to stay for 10 days, I only got 6 DanB: Hello! :) Sorry I'm late! BobS: hi Daniel Judy: Hi Dan Dr.D.: Hello Daniel.
DanB changed username to Daniel Bienvenu George_Wahl: Hi Daniel Ron: It will only take me 5 years to read the book Pam on vacation: however, since he'll be up here next week that 's kind of like a vacation for me at home too FredK: Hi Dan BobS: THAT SUCKS pammy Pam on vacation: Hi, Daniel Dr.D.: I have a partially-restored disk drive schematic for you to download, as a PDF. BobS: oh OK rich-c: Salut Daniel - glad you amde it George_Wahl: BRB meds. Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Bob, Judy, George, Rich, Dr.D., Pam and Ron Pam on vacation: the way his schedule works, he takes 7 days and gets 14 Dr.D.: Unfortunately, the size is 4.5 MB...necessary for the high-resolution drawing. FredK: Pam, no i got the Michael thing....oh man!!! Ron: Salut Daniel, ca va bien? Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Fred! FredK: Salut!! Dr.D.: So, if you have a fast network connection, or can wait a long time for modem download, you can look at Daniel Bienvenu: Oui ša va! (I'm fine!) Dr.D.: http://drushel.cwru.edu/diskboard0.pdf Ron: whoops! Dr.D.: I am still in the process of restoring the image of the schematic, but enough should be readable for you to use it as a basis for troubleshooting your disk drive. Ron: spilled tea on my keyboard Ron: this is not good Pam on vacation: not good Ron BobS: oh no !!!!! Ron: wasn't a bad spill..... only a minor spill rich-c: as long as it's clear tea, it likely wont be a problem Daniel Bienvenu: Great! a schematic! Ron: clear tea? (not) Judy: I am trying to watch the US open and watch this , I am not doing well rich-c: but if you put milk or sugar in it, or do something equally barbaric, you'd better take it in the showr with you Ron: Which US Open is that Judy? Pam on vacation: Russell wants to know if you tea'd off Ron: no sugar Judy: in tennis Ron: oh ok. Ron: thought you were talking about golf Judy: mens quarter final Ron: and wondered what it was I'd watched a few weeks back FredK: welkome to the club! Dr.D.: Plug in your Coleco Telstar and watch your own tennis :-)
(BobS gives Pam on vacation a can of Diet Coke.) Dr.D.: I *think* my Dad still has ours. George_Wahl: i can't spell, my mind went numb Judy: I couldn't play that well Daniel Bienvenu: how big is the pdf file? Dr.D.: I'll have to ask next time I go home. Pam on vacation: Okay, don't tell Guy this, but it's regular Coke I drink - Diet is Russell's poison FredK: 4.5MB he said rich-c: golf - that's whre they put a ball 1-1/2 inches in diameter on a ball 8000 miles in diameter, and try to hit the little one without hitting the big one? Dr.D.: 4.5 MB, Daniel...it is very large. A 1200 dpi image. Pam on vacation: Thank you fo rthe thought - can I give it to him? Daniel Bienvenu: I see... Dr.D.: The original schematic is a very large piece of paper. Ron: lol rich Ron: it's true George_Wahl: have a cookie Dr.D.: Perhaps 100 cm by 60 cm. Daniel Bienvenu: sorry, I miss the first message with the "4.5 Meg" information FredK: didnt think so philosophic about golf Rich Pam on vacation: thank you George Ron: Aha!.... there it is Judy: I could use the cookie, also Ron: Andre and Max Dr.D.: Herman Mason used to have a text-based golf game available for play on his BBS. George_Wahl: you're welcome rich-c: it's one of my favourite sports, Fred, after watching paint dry Ron: always enjoy watching people do things well that I've tried to do myself FredK: ok! Pam on vacation: BTW Dad, haven't tried Winigolf yet - but I did get your email George_Wahl: yes, always Dr.D.: It was a port of a BASIC program originally written for DEC minicomputers. rich-c: don't you remember the "Adamlinks" golf game? It's public domain, too Dr.D.: I think Alan Neeley did it...or whoever was "The Coleco Kid". Ron: it was a good game at the time Ron: but back then I didn't have a disk drive. Ron: took forever to load as I recall rich-c: the Adamlinks game had some very cute graphics George_Wahl: have some Lipitor too Dr.D.: I independently did a port to Microsoft BASIC back in 1984--I got the DEC original from our own DEC PDP11/34 minicomputer, that the Biology Department had. Dr.D.: This game was text-only. Dr.D.: Each hole told you the par. Dr.D.: You answered prompts to select a club and what % you swung at it. Daniel Bienvenu: I printed some labels to release my "CV Gamepack" in carts. Pam on vacation: did anyone ever make it? Ron: nicely done Mr. Agassiz? Dr.D.: Low probabilities of slice, water hazard, sand trap, etc. Ron: Agassi Dr.D.: Special dialog for putting. Ron: do you play tennis Judy? Judy: only golf I play is mini golf Pam on vacation: It's the only game in town for us duffers, Judy Judy: use to try with the kids, but I do like to watch it George_Wahl: what is golf? rich-c: got a cute freebie computer mini-golf game t'other night Ron: Theys guys are so fast, and they have talent Pam on vacation: see description from Dad above, George FredK: gentlemen only ladies forbidden George...well at the time... Judy: Bob and I played when we were in TRaverse city Ron: Bob -a question Ron: did you get my ADAMCOn report and the ANN minutes? Pam on vacation: I haven't played for a long time Dr.D.: I hear kids still awake upstairs who are supposed to be in bed...today was the first day of school. Judy: we also biked about 10 miles while we were there Pam on vacation: we should get Mom and Dad out there some time
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changed username to Jillian Ron: 1978 I think is was Pam on vacation: Rich, are you coming back? Judy: Bob won rich-c: hello Jillian - quick before Rich goes, what's your mailing address? Pam on vacation: Hi, Jillian Judy: Hi, Jullian BobS: GOT IT RONALD.......great job my man !!!!!!!! tell mum to give an extra ration tomorrow Dr.D.: She can E-mail it to me...I have some stuff to postal-mail to Dale. Jillian: 11 rochefort dirve unit 301, north york, M3C 1H5 Ron: all right!! Jillian: and Greetings all. Ron: Hi Jillian Dr.D.: Got it, Jill; thanks. Jillian: no problem. Ron: How's the youngest ADAMite? Ron: and his Mom Ron: and his Dad? FredK: Well time fr me to leave...enjoyed the chat all..gute nacht!bonne nuit! good night! Dr.D.: I'm going...prob. won't be back, class tomorrow at 8:30, kids to get off to school...good night all. Ron: it's that time of year eh Dr. D? Pam on vacation: okay, goodnight - sweet dreams to all Judy: nite, Fred rich-c: bonne nuit, Fred - a la prochaine Daniel Bienvenu: good night Dr.D. Ron: the school yard behind us has come to life
Dr.D. left chat session Jillian: much better now than he was yesterday. ; Less stressed now that the prince is happier, ; and fighting with his boss who is renegging on a promised bonus. Pam on vacation: Night Fred - bonne nuit Daniel Bienvenu: good night Fred BobS: nite Fred Judy: nite Dr D Ron: not good rich-c: nite Rich
FredK left chat session George_Wahl: nite Fred Daniel Bienvenu: Rich, Did I send you the rom file of my gamepack project (the one with the mastermind game in it)? Jillian: Dale is considering quitting over it, since it is the second time that his boss has done this. Ron: promised bonuses should materialize once they've been promised Ron: Don't blame him rich-c: yes, I have the file, though I haven't opened it yet - still can't get the emulator working Ron: I'm afraid I wouldn't survive long in today's world of work Jillian: I think that the boss was surprised at just how much the bonuses were going to cost him. He offered to pay for all of the overtime done in the month of June and July. Ron: Not without writing a collective agreement at least Pam on vacation: If Dale is typical, that's a lot of bonus Jillian: Dale logged about 200 hours and he wasn't the highest total either. rich-c: yes, sounds like Opengraphics is to a size where some written undertakings are in order Ron: right on Rich Jillian: Everyone is 'friends' which to me is not such a good thing, because it's getting in the way. Ron: One tends to take advantage of the hard working nature of certain employees rich-c: by the way, Daniel, we have been telling George that you and Fred should host Adamcon 16 in Quebec City rich-c: we figure it would improve his French Daniel Bienvenu: what? Jillian: Quebec city, I would love to vacation there. Ron: Judy, who's Agassi playing against?
(S enjoys the flowers.) Pam on vacation: I have a boss like that. If I put in for all the overtime I did, I'd have half as much again in salary rich-c: George's French definitely needs improvement, and it would only be a 500 mile trip for him Ron: We really need to have an ADAMCon in Quebec City. I would heartily support it Pam on vacation: and all us Canucks need the practice Ron: you guys would love it George_Wahl: French a no no Pam on vacation: c'mon George - if you can speak Spanish, you can pick up French in no time Jillian: It's really getting to be ridcullous. One of the employees lives in Windsor so works from home and he is working 7 days a week and 12 hours is a short day. rich-c: see what we mean, Daniel? George definitely needs some attitude adjustment George_Wahl: illegal language Ron: There was a discussion on CBC over the weekend - re the 50 hour work week being most common Pam on vacation: c'est tete a pioche Ron: the 40 hour workweek is of the past Daniel Bienvenu: Pam : LOL Pam on vacation: glad you liked it Jillian: We could have it in Quebec City one year and learn french and near the Stone's another year and learn spanish, Wouldn't that be cool? Ron: Where has technology taken us? Pam on vacation: c'est le seulement mot que je connais Ron: good idea Jillian rich-c: quebec City? easy drive for us, our own money, got relatives there Ron: le seul mot, Pam Daniel Bienvenu: I'm better in writing english than speaking english.. Pam on vacation: picky, picky Ron: ;) Jillian: Anyone else remember the predictions in the '70s of every one working only 20 hours a week? Wouldn't it be nice? George_Wahl: where has the pre-web world gone? Pam on vacation: wouldn't it just, Jillian BobS: HA Ron: that's right Jiillian Ron: it was supposed to be that way Pam on vacation: that's like computers eliminating the need for paper rich-c: anyway, Daniel, Ron and Bob and Dale all have fresh experience organizing Adamcons - they could tell you how Jillian: The only people who I know who work 20 hour weeks work then at more than one job. Ron: Build it Daniel, we will come Ron: Just love the old city rich-c: and George, wouldn't you like to vacation whre your every dollar is worth $1.60? Jillian: I'm better speaking french that writing it, Daniel, we would muddle along. rich-c: besides, it's likely to be cooler and less humid Judy: my French is really bad Ron: EXACTLY George_Wahl: still too far for me Pam on vacation: I understand French better than I speak it - all my vocabulary has gone out the window rich-c: and the girls are real pretty up there Pam on vacation: I need the practice Judy: took it in high school, many moons ago Jillian: The girls are Canadian, Rich, it goes without saying. Ron: Les blondes de Quebec! Voyons donc! George_Wahl: my passport has expired rich-c: don't need a passport Pam on vacation: not an excuse George - all you need is your birth certificate rich-c: get your Native identification and the border doesn't exist Pam on vacation: and photo ID, of course : ) George_Wahl: if i leave the US they might say Canada has to keep me Jillian: Sometimes you don't even need photo ID even. They didn't look at mine when we went across the border in July. rich-c: nope, you're U.S. born so they can't keep you out - see teh 13th amendment Judy: you look BobS: naw, Geo.......canada don't want ya!!!!!! they'd send ya back for being a US citrizen Judy: honest Jillian: Thanks. Pam on vacation: didn't look at ours either way, either - sum total of our border experience was about 50 seconds Ron: brb
(Jillian gives Judy a can of Diet Coke.) Judy: thanks, Jill George_Wahl: how come Canadians know more about the US than US citizens Jillian: After all the dire warnings about Detroit/Windsor rush hour, we buzzed right through at 5:00pm or so. rich-c: Canadians are just smarter anyway Pam on vacation: we get more US TV Judy: I am drinking water, trying to take off a few pounds BobS: cause we are lazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pam on vacation: don't ask that question too loudly George - there are a lot of people (me included) who have a great deal to say on that subject rich-c: we have more informational newspapers, television and radio rich-c: in addition to our own history, our schools teach yours and Britain's George_Wahl: give me a few paragraphs rich-c: if you want to see a good newspaper, go to: www.globeandmail.ca Jillian: Water is a good start, Judy. What else is happening in life? How is ummm Ryan(?)'s arm? Pam on vacation: Let's just say I find most Americans (present company excluded) to be very insular and unaware of anything that's not happening inside their own borders Ron: (Ron cracks open a PC Diet Cola) rich-c: how many Canadian soldiers have US forces killed in the last year, George? Pam on vacation: Ron, no diet Coke? Jillian: I was watching ABC news recently and the 'international news' didn't include anything but a report on some traveling american. Judy: good, he moves the ace bandage up so he can use the arm, must be feeling better BobS: heck !!!! most of the people here can't even tell you if a particular state is in the US !!!!!! rich-c: I know - some post office clerks want foreign postage on parcels to New Mexico Judy: had him today, tiredme right out George_Wahl: they keep quiet about that, how many?
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(<s> sips a tall cool glass of milk.) Ron: You got yourself a full time job from the sounds of it Judy Pam on vacation: And how is Meeka's leg? rich-c: see what I mean, George - American "friendly fire" killed four Canadian troops and wounded mano others in Afghanistan
Jillian created action P/milk2 Judy: yes, that is true George_Wahl: how many innocent Afgans have they killed? Judy: she is doing good, too rich-c: your president, even when challenged in a press conference, couldn't find time to say "sorry" Ron: Aw, I dunno Bob. We have people up here who don't know who the Prime Minister of Canada is. Pam on vacation: that's good to hear Ron: I'm one of them Pam on vacation: um - Paul Martin? Ron: :) Jillian: Glad to hear he's healing. rich-c: well yes Ron, but you know who's supposed to be doing the job Ron: Go Paul Go! Pam on vacation: sorry, that's wishful thinking talking
(Jillian slaps Ron playfully) Jillian: Anyone think jean is going to actually last until 2004? Ron: and beyond, possible Pam on vacation: I think there's a large boot with his name on it out there rich-c: do you know that figuratively speaking, Dubya's father has been taking him to the woodshed over Iraq? Judy: Ryan did just walk around with that arm down at his side, now he is fight ing it Judy: so hopefully it is healing well Ron: What happened to Ryan's arm? Must have missed something. Jillian: Jean has announced his retirement. We'll have to see. Pam on vacation: He fell off the sofa and broke it Ron BobS: spiral break in the upper arm Ron: oh Lord! Judy: poor little guy Pam on vacation: How old is he Judy? George_Wahl: can we have a recall election for Bush? Ron: it's a rough rough world out there Judy: he will be 2 in Jan rich-c: no, George, it's impeachment or nothing rich-c: mind you, Harlen Oil just might provide the necessary grounds... Ron: Dubya's ok..... for a Republican Ron: (shut up Ronald) rich-c: like Attila was OK, for a Hun? Jillian: Do spiral breaks usually heal ok or are they closer to compounds that develop problems? Ron: ROTFL George_Wahl: Clinton was impeached it didn't do anything Pam on vacation: Erin fell off her crib and broke hers at about the same age Pam on vacation: she was trying to climb into Graeme's crib at the time Judy: don't know, none of my kids had any brakes, when they were home rich-c: no, they wanted to try to impeach Clinton, but couldn't even get it started Jillian: I've never broken anything either. Pam on vacation: trust me, I don't recommend it George_Wahl: they voted BobS: didn't get impeached because today in us, gov't has non guts BobS: the man was a disgrace to the face of america rich-c: no, didn't get impeached because there were no grounds Ron: speaking of which.... BobS: the world is still laughing Ron: reminds me of that mock up of the oval office we saw at the Gerald R. Ford Museum George_Wahl: so he got some Ron: was standing there taking it all in, and they turned out the lights BobS: stupidity and immorality work for me rich-c: in fact in terms of political sleaze, the Republican efforts on that wre heavy oil Ron: There I was, in the oval office in the dark Ron: (take that wherever you want) BobS: <smiles widely> Pam on vacation: ironic, isn't it
(Jillian groans loudly) Pam on vacation: you were in good company, I'm sure Ron Ron: it was sure a neat mockup BobS: ya US that is.......:-) Ron: right Pam, something like that had occurred to me rich-c: Impeachment is for high crimes and treason, not failure to keeped the pants zipped BobS: that was AFTER we all fell asleep at the planatarium Judy: all of us Pam on vacation: we? who else fell asleep? Ron: yeah.... George_Wahl: Bush wants to bomb IRAQ again Ron: those recliner thingies was comfy with a capital C rich-c: true, but his daddy and all his friends say no BobS: actually Ron, I think they put on some soft music too.......... Ron: Dubya has surrounded himself with Daddy's men Pam on vacation: and Daddy Ron: they did Bob Judy: Bob, Doug and Meeka, and Ron and I rich-c: there's some few have sided with his father - they're the ones saying leave Iraq alone Jillian: don't talk about sleep, it's making me tired. rich-c: them, and any friends the US hasn't managed to quite totally alienate yet Pam on vacation: so did Ron snore? Ron: I must have Jillian: I'm still peeved over Dubya snubbing us after his inauguration. Ron: Judy said that I had missed quite a bit of the presentation Judy: just heavy breathing George_Wahl: Britian stands with US Ron: Thought I'd seen all 40 minutes of it, but no rich-c: not on Iraq, it doesnt - nor does Canada, nor Germany, nor even Israel Judy: I don't think anyone could sit there and not fall asleep George_Wahl: they just had Tony Blair on TV and he said Britain backs the US Ron: That's right Judy. Jillian: I used to be able to fall asleep anywhere. I wish I still could. rich-c: let's say there's a very significant difference between what Tony actually said and the little bit the tv cut out to mislead you Ron: That's my thing Jillian Daniel Bienvenu: Sorry, I'm quiet because I'm ready the english instructions for my CV Gamepack. BobS: takes practise my dear Pam on vacation: Ron there's this thing called a bed - you're supposed to spend some time in it every night to avoid such things Daniel Bienvenu: I'm reading... not I'm ready Ron: My brother told me once, he's never met anyone who falls asleep so fast and snores so loud George_Wahl: still exact words from his lips Ron: Pam...... oh? is that what this padded thing here is for rich-c: my brother could sleep standing up - it's something he learned in the U.S. Army Pam on vacation: have you ever heard Dad snore? Pam on vacation: He's a champ Ron: We old Radio Operators had the skill rich-c: George, have you ever heard of "cut and splice"? Pam on vacation: which brother Dad? BobS: can't fall asleep standing up. but almost anywhere on an incline......... Ron: of maintaining listening watch over midnight whilst grapping a few winks rich-c: Douglas George_Wahl: was that Clinton? Pam on vacation: doug was in the Army? BobS: standing up would be a valuable tool Judy: I have my times lately, where I fall asleep more rich-c: yes, he was of draft age and joined to protect his US citizenship Jillian: I once fell asleep in the middle of a bus of 62 sugared-up 14 year olds on a field trip in Montreal. Ron: Hell, I used to stand up, throw water on my face, go stand at the front door of the radio shack to get fresh air, walk around the console Ron: anything to keep awake some nights Pam on vacation: hmm, the things you learn Ron: but if someone called, I heard them rich-c: thought you knew that, Pam Ron: Judy did you see that shot? Pam on vacation: I know Russell has a specific routine for his midnight shifts - he works very hard at changing his rhythms for that week BobS: AWESOME Judy: yes, I did Ron: boy! BobS: and darn lucky too Pam on vacation: didn't Dad Judy: he has to do more of them Jillian: Lately I've been almost falling asleep on the way home from church. Very bad because I usually drive. Ron: but when you're good, you make your own luck Pam on vacation: but then I think there are a lot of things I've missed Pam on vacation: not recommended, Judy Jillian: Did you know that there was a study done that said that shift workers have more accidents, divorces and diseases dueuto the stresses from working when they should be sleeping? Ron: Yup Pam on vacation: yes, I had heard of it' Ron: toward the end of my career, I spent a lot of time working with consultants doing studies on ATC shift work rich-c: does this surprise anyone? BobS: THAT DOES IT !!!!!! i need to retire!!!!! BobS: work IS hazardous to me health rich-c: by all means, Bob, I recommend it - the sooner the better Jillian: Apparently it did, Rich. Ron: affects everything - married life, sex life, moods, feelings of self esteem.... the while bit George_Wahl: bumper sticker: "caution blind driver" Pam on vacation: I must admit that R has done a very good job of arranging his life to suit his sleep needs Ron: Work is a 4 letter word rich-c: don't laugh, George BobS: you got it Ronald Jillian: My dad sent me a 'virus alert' about 'Work' I wonder if I still have it. rich-c: the first time I was in Florida I encountered a driver training car - lablelled 'Florida School for the Blind" - HONEST!!! BobS: put it on the list Jull BobS: JILL Ron: Jillian - could you remind Dale to change my e-mail address on the ADAM discussion list? Ron: He's got a note in his wallet, but it's probably still there George_Wahl: just new tech things Jillian: I'll try Bob. Jillian: To what Ron? Ron: email@example.com BobS: RON nneds the change of address rich-c: not new tech, George - this was back in 1960 and the car wasn't new then George_Wahl: like autodrive Pam on vacation: what were you doing in Florida in 1960/ Pam on vacation: ? rich-c: Jillian, do nag Dale to either update the Adam mailing list or let Dr. D. administer it - he is willing Judy: are you still watching,Ron Ron: am I ever Ron: this is good stuff Jillian: I'll put it on the list of things I want him to do. Which includes setting up Dr. D to administer. Pam on vacation: Poor Dale, he needs to find another job just to have time for his life Jillian: We're currently trying to set up for him to become a stay at home Dad. Pam on vacation: so he can work at home, or quit altogether? Jillian: If we can fix it, it will mean big changes, but mostly positive ones, I think. Ron: I think he'd be good at that Jillian, if it suits his liking rich-c: somehow that doesn't strike me as necessarily his sort of thing - I could be wrong Ron: What I saw was one heck of a fine Dad Jillian: Quit from his current job and do part time consulting work. Jillian: I'll make sure to pass on the compliments. Pam on vacation: It would probably do wonders for his stress level Ron: and Mom wasn't half bad either rich-c: I have trouble putting "Dale" and "part-time" in the same thought construct Jillian: I think that if he could make enough to pay our rent, my job could pay for all the rest. Ron: from the sounds of it Jillian, it might be worth a try eh? Pam on vacation: that's the problem - I'm sure Dale has trouble with the concept too Ron: Depends on the state of the consulting indursty in Toronto Ron: Surely Dale could find a client or two Jillian: I worried about being a parent because I didn't have very good role models, but I seem to be doing fine. rich-c: my sense is that this is not the optimal time for such moves BobS: I have been trying to convince Judy of the same thing you and Dale are discussing Jill BobS: and she doesn't seem to like the idea............ Ron: You are indeed, both of you. Pam on vacation: so far you seem to be doing everything right, Jillian Ron: Not that I have any recent experience, you understand Jillian: Dale would work part-time consulting, part time with his websites, part time with his dns registry, part time with Scouting, etc,etc etc Pam on vacation: but then I expected no less BobS: here, here !!!!!! Ron: It was just a feeling I got, Daniel Bienvenu: oh Rich! Give me your feedback on the Gamepack instructions manual... I will send you the file by e-mail right now. Jillian: Jeffy makes it really easy. Ron: yeah rich-c: OK, is that a request to edit it a little as well? Pam on vacation: just watch out for the next one : ) Daniel Bienvenu: Rich : if you think it's a necessary Jillian: The only problems we're having now is that he is waking up to eat at 2, 4, 6 and 8 am. Not fun. rich-c: do I get a credit - redacteur en chef? ;-) BobS: now, THAT is a problem Judy: give him rice cereal Pam on vacation: when are you supposed to go back to work, Jillian? Ron: Now that I do remember Jillian: We're trying to feed more solid foods during the day to lessen the night waking, but that carries it's own problem. Pam on vacation: dirty dipes? Jillian: I'm due back Dec 16. But if I'm watching the internal want ads for a step up job, if I get one I might go earlier. Daniel Bienvenu: Rich : err... Jillian: No Pam, no dirty dipes. for almost 2 days. Pam on vacation: oooh not good rich-c: don't fuss it, Daniel; I do things like that Ron: boy! what a tennis match rich-c: us old farts are not to be taken too sriously Judy: sure is but Bob thinks we have to go to bed Ron: we don't even take ourselves seriously Pam on vacation: (believe me, I don't!) BobS: oh, Agassi is the old fart, and he is holding his own Ron: fer sure eh? Judy: he is ahead Jillian: Hey the Senate wants to legalize pot. Who woulda thunk? Pam on vacation: It'll never happen BobS: say what????? Jillian: pot and hash! Ron: Police Association is not amused rich-c: actually, Jillian, not legalize, just decriminalize Jillian: and getting rid of previous criminal records.] rich-c: it would still remain an offence, just not at the Criminal Code level for simple possession Ron: done! Ron: welll played Jillian: I think they should legalize it, It's less harmful than tobacco, or alcohol and if they taxed it would make MAJOR income. BobS: but then more and more people would wander around stoned Pam on vacation: how can they justify legalizing it in an age when they're waging a war against smoking? Daniel Bienvenu: Rich : Did you receive my e-mail? rich-c: there is some argument about harm relative to tobacco - some claim one joint is as dangerous as ten cigarettes Ron: It was only a Senate report. It will probably go the way of all Senate reports Judy: dumb, dumb Ron: Into the parliamentary library rich-c: but then mind you, I do think the cigarette statistics have a great deal of lying in them BobS: duh...whas da prollem wid us smuckers ?????? Jillian: Do you really need a list Bob? BobS: pot is bery guut fer us Daniel Bienvenu: Rich, I send you the Gamepack manual.
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changed username to Pamela BobS: YAVOOL Judy: with big feet Ron: :) Pamela: there, that's better Pamela: much faster now rich-c: got your memory and buffer cleared, have you? Daniel Bienvenu: I think it's a 9928 or a 9938 Pamela: yup Daniel Bienvenu: I think msx don't use the same sound chip rich-c: then the cpu and video instruction sets should be identical Pamela: anyway, to answer your questions, I was looking for websites for some reception locations that were recommended to me by a coworker Pamela: Kimberly is looking all over the city rich-c: and porting should be easy, just adapt to any minor protocol differences in the OSs of the machines Daniel Bienvenu: MSX1 is a computer ... it's like a Coleco Adam. rich-c: I have heard of it but have nevr seen one Pamela: Jillian, the wedding was back in 1999 I think - ring any bells? Daniel Bienvenu: There is a way to find someone from Konami who can tell how they convert Antartic adventure for the ColecoVision? BobS: the MSX1 was the European equivelent to the ADAM was it not????
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(Jillian reboots Pamela's computer remotely.) Pamela: what'd I do??? Jillian: I just figured it out Pam, You're a nut. BobS: you're on vacation that's what!!!! George_Wahl: oh, no Pamela: well I know that George_Wahl: i'm certified Jillian: That is, if it is the wedding sight that comes up when I search for my name. Pamela: join the club rich-c: there were a number of limited-production computers that used the Z80 or Z80A CPU and TI-99x8 video chips, so porting programs among them was reputedly easy Pamela: well did it? George_Wahl: i get SSI for it Ron: Russian is getting tired Daniel Bienvenu: I suppose you know what is for the MS in MSX. Judy: seems so, doesn't it BobS: microsoft??????? rich-c: but then all the big game makers like nintendo had versions of their games for multiple computers whenever they could control the rights Jillian: brb Ron: yup rich-c: I would doubt it, Bob, wouldn't fit Bill Gates pattern by then BobS: Daniel, wht means???????? George_Wahl: oh, my bum Daniel Bienvenu: MS is for Microsoft. MSX was a standard by Microsoft for computers. BobS: AH HA BobS: ol Bill has ALWAYS tried to control the computer scene rich-c: but you are not suggesting the computer was produced by or for Microsoft, are you? BobS: just ot work the operating system maybe Ron: Hell no, it ran CP/M 2.2 Ron: didn't it? rich-c: by 1983 Gates had already sold IBM what they thought (though his lawyers knew otherwise) was an exclusive licence for MS-DOS Jillian: I'm back!! Pamela: so what did you find? Ron: game, set, match Jillian: Dale still exists, and we're going to Bilboa's for our wedding aniversary! Ron: Now I'll have to watch the rest of it Pamela: cool rich-c: MS-DOS was written for the 8086 instruction set - doubt it would run on a Z80A Judy: that is it, he did it George_Wahl: it hurts Pamela: Is he home? BobS: AHPPY ANNIVERSAARY Jillian: No he just phoned, but he's on his way home. Judy: now I can go to bed, so nite all, talk at you next week BobS: or somethin like that Pamela: good night Judy Ron: Sister Stephanie is the tennis fan in the family rich-c: night, Judy BobS: nite all of ya's Pamela: nite Bob Ron: niters Mr. and Mrs. S. BobS: be good and don't take any wooden nickels rich-c: night to you too, Bob
Judy left chat session Jillian: It's not for a week and a half or so but thanks bob and good night to both. Daniel Bienvenu: BONNE NUIT! Ron: be well George_Wahl: Nite Bob BobS: POOF, powwie....gone !!!!!!!! Pamela: Jillian, what is Bilboa's Jillian: I'd better go too, must make dinner for my man. BobS: THANKS YA's and back at ya !!!!!!! Ron: I shall bid you all a fond good night rich-c: right Jill, let us know how it all works out
BobS left chat session rich-c: you too, Ron? well, till next Wednesday, then Ron: yeah Jillian, keep us posted Jillian: Bilboa's is a _really_ nice restaurant on Avenue just north of Bloor. about the same price point as North 44 Ron: yup.... Pamela: Ah George_Wahl: i better go before i start crying :-
Ron left chat session Pamela: sounds good Pamela: Have fun, and we'll see you next week Jillian: I'll let everyone know if there are any desicive developments. rich-c: whatever, George, looks like everyone is packing it in Jillian: poof Pamela: please keep us posted. Nite! George_Wahl: nite all Pamela: Nite George rich-c: nite George Pamela: It's that time for me too
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Pamela left chat session rich-c: I would not rule it out entirely Daniel, but it does seem unlikely rich-c: remember the Z80x CPUs were intimately associated with Gary Kildall and CP/M 2.2 rich-c: remember too that CP/M was the established competitor Microsoft had to displace rich-c: I really find it hard to believe the MS-DOS owner would program for a competitive machine Daniel Bienvenu: There is a FAQ somewhere about MSX in the Internet, but I can't remember where. rich-c: that said, I know Microsoft DID do the first OS for teh Amiga - on the Motorola 6800 series chip rich-c: maybe one of us can look into it further when we have the time rich-c: anyway, do remember to download the disc schematics from Dr. D's site rich-c: in fact if you have a printer big enough, a 1200 dpi scan should be enlarge-able to quite some size Daniel Bienvenu: The MSX standard has been designed by a company called ASCII in Cooperation with Microsoft which provided a firmware version of its BASIC for the machine. Because this BASIC version was an extended version of MicroSoft Basic, it was called "MicroSoft eXtended BASIC". This explains the name "MSX". The system thanks his name to the built-in BASIC. rich-c: do you have any buddies at the university with access to a plotter or printer with a 36 inch carriage? Daniel Bienvenu: me? access to a plotter? I don't think so rich-c: guess you'll just have to print it out in the 8-1/2 x 11 format, then rich-c: anyway, ASCII is American Standard Code for Information Interchange - a standard, not a company Daniel Bienvenu: I found this information in a MSX web site rich-c: Beginners A(something) Symbolic Instruction Code was developed by a university - possibly Stanford rich-c: one of the most successful commercial dialects of BASIC was the adaption by Microsoft rich-c: if I recall, burning a firmware BASIC chip was popular then - I believe the Vic20 and likely Commodore 64, and the Tandy computers, had them rich-c: (oh, just came to me - the A is "All-purpose") rich-c: one of the Adam advantages was that because it didnt have firmware BASIC that was automatically loaded, rich-c: it left all that memory space "bare" for other uses - perhaps that's why the Adam dialect of Logo is so advanced for a 64K machine rich-c: of course overwriting was possible - installing CP/M on the Adam over-wrote the memory space occupied by the EOS Daniel Bienvenu: SmartBASIC... Smart is a name of a company? rich-c: no, Smart was a propriatary prefix, trademarked by Coleco - SmartBASIC, SmartLOGO, SmartFiler, etc. Daniel Bienvenu: SmartBASIC was not only on Adam computer. rich-c: I beg to differ, Daniel; since it wass trademarked only Coleco could use that name Daniel Bienvenu: smart... it looks like a common word not a trademark. rich-c: depends on teh context in which it is used - just like BMW can trademark numbers like 318, 540, etc rich-c: in words, don't try to sell a detrgent labelled with the common word "Tide" or you are in deep trouble!! rich-c: CoLeCo. by the was, was Connecticut Leather Company, did you knoww? Daniel Bienvenu: yeah! I know that one! rich-c: anyway, Daniel, the hour advances and us old folks need our shuteye rich-c: have to bid you au revoir till next Wednesday Daniel Bienvenu: ok! see you later! bonne nuit! rich-c: bonne nuit
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