Dan Bienvenu: ... Dan Bienvenu: did I miss something tonight? rich-c: hello Daniel, you are very prompt Dan Bienvenu: hello Rich! rich-c: no, you and I came on at the same time Dan Bienvenu: Tonight... I wasn't at the university rich-c: you actually have a night off? Dan Bienvenu: it's not exactly a night off... rich-c: just different obligations rich-c: it is different when you are retired, like me Dan Bienvenu: I decided to work at home tonight... rich-c: my time is pretty much my own (and my doctors, and my mechanics', and my family's, and,,,) rich-c: did have to do the weeks grocery chopping today, and get some medical testing done, but mostly free time
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changed username to james rich-c: good morning james
changed username to George W. james: hi, how's it going? rich-c: hello George, missed you Saturday Dan Bienvenu: hello james! james: bonjour dan ;) Dan Bienvenu: hello George! Dan Bienvenu: bonjour! ;) rich-c: just waiting for your big event at Suzuka Sunday, james james: what event is that? james: some race? rich-c: the Grand Prix of Japan George W.: Hi Rich, James, and Dan james: lol. i know nothing of racing Dan Bienvenu: (PRIVATE) Do you remember when Dr.D. said he wanted to mail me something? it was 3 weeks ago? james: i know they have cars that go fast, bail out a lot and some easy on the eyes race queens George W.: i'm sick james: that's not good Dan Bienvenu: you're sick? ... :( james: so how have you been, rich? George W.: my doctor put me on zithromax james: what's that? rich-c: Dan, I think he wanted you to have his disc dirve schematic - it is now posted on his website Dan Bienvenu: ok rich-c: yes, james, the scenery around teh Grand Prix pits is - enticing james: lol rich-c: and yes, the crs are fast, incredibly so - and the sound is unbelievable james: some days i'm just too married Dan Bienvenu: what's the URL? George W.: my head is spinning rich-c: just a minute - he sent it around the Adam mailing list today - let me get it Dan Bienvenu: I suppose I'm not in the Adam mailing list... Dan Bienvenu: I receive nothing Dan Bienvenu: but it's not a problem ... my Yahoo account is full. james: really dan? rich-c: Dan: try drushel.biol.cwru.edu/scehmatics/diskboard.pdf rich-c: Dan, did you ask Dale directly to be put on the mailing list, or send the message to coladam-admin? james: i really think it would save all involved a lot of trouble if we could somehow automate the mailing list through some kind of web form rich-c: and james, what I've always told Frances is the day she's in trouble is the day I stop looking
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changed username to BobS BobS: howdy rich-c: welcome Bob, we missed the Slopsemas last week james: hey mr. slopsema ;) George W.: Hi Bob rich-c: hope it was not a sign of something bad Dan Bienvenu: I didn't ask directly.. I simply send an e-mail... two months ago (I think). Dan Bienvenu: hello Bob! rich-c: figures, Dan - Dale sometimes needs a little reminding, shall we say? BobS: hallo BobS: ya we were at the antique mall and Judy's foks last week james: that's why i think a web form to automate it so dale doesn't have to do it manually would be a good idea BobS: and probably will be next wee BobS: Doug is working on the mall computer system rich-c: just tending to business, then George W.: hey Rich, is your thanksgiving coming up? rich-c: we were worried it might be a family matter rich-c: yes George, next Monday is Thanksgiving in Canada, why? BobS: no, that is still a mess....got her furniture out of the hosue last few days....TIRED rich-c: you are entitled to be, Bob - you have had far more than your share lately George W.: just wanted to make sure i wished you a happy thanksgiving rich-c: we will take it quietly, George - Pamela will join us for dinner one of the days rich-c: our Thanksgiving is earlier because our crops have to be in earlier George W.: yes ours is closer to Christmas rich-c: in fact Daniel should be seeing the first snow any day now ;-)
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changed username to FredK Dan Bienvenu: it's raining tonight! FredK: Hi all George W.: we are in the 80's in philly rich-c: bonsoir, Fred, ca va? james: it's sunny and about 25C here Dan Bienvenu: Fred! FredK: Ca va merci et vous? George W.: Hi Fred Dan Bienvenu: ça va! rich-c: assez bien, merci FredK: Rich-C la respiration ca va mieux? George W.: oh, boy rich-c: we finally got up to about 17 today but it will be cool tonight rich-c: we did set a new record for our house thouhg rich-c: we didnt turn on the furnace till yesterday FredK: Dan, le disk drive y marche tu? rich-c: oui, Fred, c'est tres claire Dan Bienvenu: je n'ai pas réparé mon disk drive... FredK: c plate ca! Dan Bienvenu: je n'ai pas encore téléchargé le pdf des schematics George W.: HEY! ENGLISH PLEASE Dan Bienvenu: rich! thelink is broken!? rich-c: simmer down George, us folks talk both by law FredK: George where getting there....just a little bit you knwo.... Dan Bienvenu: i can't download the schematics
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: we only get upset when Soanish or German get thrown in - they aren't officially recognized :-) BobS: why not?????? BobS: too big???? FredK: Was ist loss mit Deutsh?
changed username to Judy Dan Bienvenu: hello Judy! rich-c: hi Judy FredK: James through in your Japanese please....haha George W.: Hi Judy Judy: hi, everyone FredK: Hi Judy! rich-c: watch out Fred, he likely has a Japanese keyboard and can transmit accordingly FredK: LOL rich-c: he'll got and insult you terribly and you wont even know what he's saying BobS: How's Myuki and the wee one James?????? Dan Bienvenu: I tried the link "drushel.biol.cwru.edu/scehmatics/diskboard.pdf" but it's not working rich-c: Dan, how far in did you get with the link? in case I made a typo FredK: George say something......vent out......or maybe not...haha james: sorry, spaced out George W.: oh, my head FredK: thats better rich-c: Daniel - spelling - schematics - did I do it wrong? james: case and miyuki are good George W.: my speelling is bad rich-c: my keyboard cant spell either, George George W.: oops FredK: James putting in lots of hours lately? Dan Bienvenu: ok! it's loading now.... rich-c: whew! james: not too bad now, back to normal hours rich-c: like you're only on the job 14 hours a day, james? james: still gotta fix saturdays though. 11-9 straight without a break is kind of brutal for teaching FredK: I think Rich just said it all... james: most days i only work 5 or 6 hours FredK: better than 8 FredK: or 12 George W.: how about a 24 hour a day job james: i wholeheartedly agree rich-c: right, you can't teach that long without a break and do it effectively james: saturdays leave me pretty drained FredK: G, yeah, thats my "modo" i can only work 24hours a day not more.... rich-c: with all respect, james, I fear it also leaves the students a bit shortchanged rich-c: at least the ones who attend later in the day james: i do my best to give it my all but yeah, i worry about that too james: i'm making a few changes to my schedule so i have a break saturday afternoon FredK: And thats just teaching part what about the rest? rich-c: I'm sure you do, james, but there are limits to anyone's concentration George W.: i can't work. i'm nuts FredK: good excuse. FredK: lol George W.: which way is up? rich-c: don't let him kid you, Fred, he just doesnt want to admit he's sick at the moment Dan Bienvenu: do you think the 20th anniversary of the Coleco Adam computer will be celebrated? I notice no real celebration for the ColecoVision :( rich-c: another one of these people who can't admit that there are times you have to back off and take a break james: the rest? FredK: well corrections, marks, familly life etc. james: @rich - no i am *invincible* lol. nah, i know my limits which is why i'm fixing my schedule rich-c: you'll have to ask Dr. D. and Ron about that but I expect they'll have something plotted for Adamcon FredK: sleepless hours cause of nearby construction james: i've since adjusted my schedule, but damn i'll be happy when the construction around here is finished FredK: Rich maybe you mean Hplotted. FredK: :) rich-c: oh great Fred, trying to work when you've been up too early (and too late?) George W.: i really put the the cart before the horse Dan Bienvenu: yeah! i remember a project to do a special "cake"... FredK: Rich no i meant for James, his sleepless nights cause of construction nearby his residence. rich-c: my project will be just getting out there -I want to drive rich-c: right, I'd forgotten that rich-c: have the new engine and installation kit on order, waiting for them to arrive Dan Bienvenu: ... how big is the size of the pdf file for the schematics? George W.: BRB james: construction is driving me nuts but i'm on a better schedule now which helps FredK: Rich, just in time for .......Winter, you can do some donuts in the snow....:) james: it's the noise while i'm teaching that's getting on my nerves rich-c: haven't any idea, Dan - I haven't downloaded it yet rich-c: but in my experience pdf files are a bit on the large size rich-c: you running low on storage space on your computer? Dan Bienvenu: no.. my modem is a little bit slow tonight. rich-c: what speed modem do you have? Dan Bienvenu: right now? ... about 36K (arond 3.5 kilobytes/sec.) Dan Bienvenu: it's a winmodem 56k
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changed username to Dr.Druselius FredK: now we may have an ans. to that... Dan Bienvenu: dr.d? good evening! FredK: Hi Dr. D rich-c: but I do know that if I try to download while multitasking, the download only gets a small time slice rich-c: hello Dr. D, Dan was just after your disc drive schematic Dr.Druselius: Ja, ich bin hier...however, I just popped in long enough to say, back in 30 minutes, I have to go pick up Christina from soccer practice. Dr.Druselius: :-) Dr.Druselius: I'll be glad to talk schematics when I return. BobS: DOKTOR D !!!!!!! FredK: Dr. if i m not here Gute Nacht... james: i gotta go too. someone's making a fuss. BobS: ich bin here, yuck ben der ??????? rich-c: OK, say ehllo to Christina from all of us when you pick her up Dr.Druselius: Okay Freddie, hope to catch you still here. FredK: Arrigato James-san Dr.Druselius: Will do, bye... james: i'll try to come back. depends on how "breakfast" goes. FredK: lol james: *poof*
james left chat session Dan Bienvenu: à tantôt! rich-c: OK, hope to see you later, james BobS: so what'd we miss last week ???????? a GREAT meeting of da minds??????? Dan Bienvenu: brb! rich-c: well yes, we had quite a good chat, actually BobS: holy moly !!!!!! me and the bride and rich is all taht is left????? rich-c: had quite a fair turnout including the Wicks at various times BobS: ahso!!!! FredK: lol rich-c: of course the mix of what gets talked about varies with who's present BobS: got a good one for ya.......sold 4 boxes of those hard sector disks that Dr D informed me about at AC14......the guy pays $17 for disks and shipping BobS: then he sends the MO registered mail anf it cost him $4.45 rich-c: Dan, do you think having the schematic will allow you to fix the drive or get it fixed? BobS: to protect a$17 Money Order.......crazy!!!!! rich-c: hard sector discs? for what application? George W.: i'm back BobS: Dan, did ya ever get a DISK MANAGER copy???? Judy: I was just talking to Meeka FredK: Dan was on status brb.... BobS: Rich said that certain computers use them. they have 16 locator holes int the disk AND ADAM won't touvh them BobS: or ibm either rich-c: well no, the whole format process is keyed to the single index hole BobS: don't actually know what computer uses the disks, but I got rid of 4 boxes anyway rich-c: what I'd like to know is, where did you get them from in the first place? BobS: they are called 96 track DSDD hard sector disks....jsut like regular 5 n1/4" except for all the holes BobS: so the disk drives we have fet all flustered trying to do anythign rich-c: well, just tape over all but one of the holes, and... ;-) BobS: got them from a guy on ebay selling them as DSDD new sealed disks......and I got 'em cheap rich-c: actually if they're hrd sectored, that wouldnt work rich-c: define cheap BobS: I was thinking the other way...think of the poor guy trying to take regular one holers and punch in 15 more !!!!!!! BobS: like a buck a box rich-c: that's cheap - you shoulda been honest and used a gun and mask BobS: heck maybe I got them at the thrift sotre here in town....had thema long time and not just sure where i picked them up BobS: I thaked him!!!!! BobS: thanked BobS: only buy them if really cheap like as in almost free rich-c: well they are extremely scarce and the manufacturers know it and gouge you - you bought far below manufacturers price BobS: actually i don't win many bids, but when I do it is for wee bits of acash BobS: didn't get spit for action on Ebay BobS: sold them for $9 for 4 boxes rich-c: I'd like to spend more time on eBay but seem to never get my round tuits BobS: I know IF I could find the right place, they should command more than that George W.: BobS: and yo are REtired and all.........a shame it is rich-c: yes, hard sectored are extremely rare, my comments wre based on standard 5-1/4s rich-c: well, you have to remember the question of exchange, and extra shipping, and teh fact that most eBay vendors are afraid to sell to Canada BobS: maybe I have to sell them one ata a time George W.: i can't find anymore 5.25" disks BobS: only got $2.25 per box this way rich-c: guess you'll just have to buy them from me, George - I will sell to Americans if they're nice to me Dan Bienvenu: de retour! Dan Bienvenu: I'm back! BobS: YO Daniel!!!!!!! George W.: i'm considering to put my ADAM back in mothballs BobS: did you get it downloaded FredK: Ship it to me first G. George W.: not for free FredK: of course you wouldnt want to do that! rich-c: why Fred, you want another Adam? George W.: make a bid first Dan Bienvenu: ... Georger wants a disk drive? or floppy disks? FredK: George your serious? FredK: I wasnt really.... rich-c: George I believe has a disc drive FredK: That would be interresting......well for Dan first i guess... Dan Bienvenu: (I'm reading the messages.. I missed) George W.: it would be like trading a kid FredK: so you are kid ding George W.: for now FredK: in this case i have 2 kids rich-c: whast would you do with an Adam if you got it, Fred? FredK: good questions rich-c: 2 kidsw - Meganne, and Adam? George W.: if i get desprate thats another story Dan Bienvenu: I still have many boxes of 5"1/4 disks. Like Memorex 2SHD formatted fo IBM... FredK: 3kids then Meganne and 2 Adams.....one for spare....consol with no drives.... rich-c: btw, how are Meganne and Sylvie doing? FredK: Tks fr asking they are doing fine....getting along great!! George W.: i also have a XT computer rich-c: getting to the point whre you get a decent night's sleep yet? FredK: i data drive screatches while running.. BobS: OH OH.......the HD ones are VERY flaky when you try to format downward to 36Ok disk Dan Bienvenu: I have many floppy disks but no good adam disk drive to use them. BobS: Fred. the data drive squel is to show you that it is working!!!!! George W.: 8088 FredK: Yes, she has been doing her "nights" pretty good fr 3-4 weeks now.. BobS: most of mine do that in high gear going from one side of the tape to the other rich-c: Fred, I hate that squeal too, but I have a drive had been doing the same thing for ten years and it still works BobS: don't know just "what" the squel is, but it doesnot seem to hinder operation George W.: my birds are going crazy BobS: usually the rubber wheel disintegrates or the U6 chip craps out rich-c: what kind of birds do you have, George? FredK: that was my worry, should i shoot WD in there?? haha that was my thought Dan Bienvenu: I found one box of md2d 5"1/4 disks George W.: budgies Dan Bienvenu: .. another one FredK: only 1 drive does it fr now... rich-c: they're a variety of parakeet - how many have you BobS: them;s the ones you need Daniel George W.: two of them home grown
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changed username to Pamela FredK: Hi Pam Pamela: HI all rich-c: did you plan to breed them or did it just sort of happen? Dan Bienvenu: heelo Pam!
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changed username to Guy B. Judy: hi, pam rich-c: hi daughter, that was a long errand FredK: ? Guy B.: Greetings! rich-c: do you approve of Kim's dress? FredK: Hi GUy George W.: Hi Guy BobS: I even tried to use a magnetic disk eraser on the HD ones, then I couldn't even try to format them in the ADAM, but some worked remattred BobS: as 1.2 HD Judy: hi, Guy rich-c: hello Guy, when did you slip in? BobS: PAMMIE!!!!!! BobS: anD Guy TOO !!!!!! Guy B.: Bob, how is Ryan doing? Pamela: Hi, sorry about that, just as I came on suspicious noises started emanating from the kitchen Pamela: everything is fine now. Dan Bienvenu: It's simply some wraped boxes of floppy disks I have .. I have a Disk Drive with my C=64. rich-c: was it Willow or Inky? BobS: he is doing great!!!!! George W.: mice Pamela: twas Willow Guy B.: Is he out of the hospital? Pamela: re the dress, we didn't go - when I touched base with K. I discovered that the place is only open till eight which wouldn't give us enough time BobS: oh yes...for 2 wseeks and a few days already Judy: really good, and very busy BobS: was only in the hospital for 3 days total Pamela: so I came home, made some dinner, talked on the phone some, watched tv and then came to find you all George W.: we have big rats and skunks outside Dan Bienvenu: I have only two boxes of "md-2d" disks. rich-c: did you and your mother agree on Sunday or Monday for dinner? FredK: Bonne chance avec le disk drive Dan..... Guy B.: Oh, that's good. Who is he with now? Pamela: we didn't agree - will have to discuss some more Dan Bienvenu: I have 20 boxes of ds-hd disks. Pamela: My bet would be for Sunday as I'll be busy Monday BobS: US rich-c: want me to confirm Monday then with your mother now? Pamela: Sunday!!! Guy B.: That's good. What's the latest with Mandy? Judy: he is ordered to stay with us, Guy FredK: Goonite All, pls advise Dr.D i tried to stay up ...but....gotta go...bye bye! Guy B.: Nite Freddy. Pamela: nite Freddy, sorry I missed most of you BobS: byer Frd rich-c: OK Fred catch you next Sat or Wed BobS: BYE.....FRED Dan Bienvenu: bye fred! rich-c: bonsoir maintenant Judy: she is getting a divorce and haveing trouble with her lawer George W.: Nite Fred Dan Bienvenu: aurevoir! FredK: ***Poof***
FredK left chat session Pamela: ISn't Rich here? he's listed rich-c: Pam, your mother says Sunday it is Pamela: okay thanks Dad - and Mom BobS: he is in disguise rich-c: he's off fetching Christina from soccer - he'll be back Dan Bienvenu: BRB... à tantôt... Pamela: I am soooo confused. Guy B.: Judy, what problem is she having with the lawyer? Judy: about what, Pam Pamela: Bob, Judy - we missed you last week - everything okay? Pamela: everything Dr.Druselius: I am back at last. Judy: she is removing herself, doesn't like us Guy B.: There you are Dr. D. Pamela: there he is!! Pamela: Rich, Freddy had to go Dr.Druselius: :-( Pamela: he said to apologize Pamela: too tired Dr.Druselius: I had to take one of Christina's friends home, too--extra trip time. Dr.Druselius: Re: tired, believe me, I sympathize. Pamela: me too Judy: yes, we were in Holland for the day, had to work and then went and visitded with my parents Guy B.: So, she has to find another one. George W.: Hi Dr. D. I didn't see you Dr.Druselius: Well, if you wanna see something fun (and scary, anticipating Halloween), look at Dr.Druselius: http://drushel.cwru.edu/ugly/ Dr.Druselius: Hi George. Guy B.: Oh, I got my lights and Halloween decorations up at my place. Not the scary type though. Judy: we think so, she is too busy to bother with her, I guess rich-c: Halloween lights? though those were for Christmas Pamela: Judy, can I summarize? Ryan was only in thehospital for three days, and is ordered to stay with you for the foreseeable future. Mandy is getting a divorce, and is having trouble with her lawyer. She's planning on moving out and leaving Ryan with you? Judy: didn't like Bob going with her to begin with and got worse from there BobS: lawyer.......the broad is a bitch.....harsh evaluation but true Dr.Druselius: Sounds like more troubles... BobS: they are bot h here for awhile Guy B.: That stinks. Hope she gets this solved soon. Abby's been sick the past two days, but she's better today. Judy: no, she is staying here also, until she can take him with her Pamela: okay, got it now Pamela: what is Abby sick with, Guy? Judy: we are being visited tomorrow by the protective services person BobS: paying the lawyer byn the hour.....and she is compaining to Mandy because she has called her a few times a day to understand the procedure and jsut what paperwork the lawyer wants from her rich-c: which starts a long and painful process - as we know already from Herman BobS: tonight whe said she thinks she in going to withdraw fromt he case....GOOD RIDANCE jerk Guy B.: She was throwing up her food. I found the culprit. So, she's on a boiled hamburger and rice diet until tomorrow. Judy: makes mistakes on the paper, like the wrong name BobS: wht yo feeding Abby, M&M's????????? Pamela: what did she get into? rich-c: what do you expect from a lawyer, Judy, competence? Guy B.: No, she gets Science Diet. Apparently a bad batch of dog biscuits. I threw the rest out. Pamela: for the amount of money they charge per hour, I should bloody well hope so Judy: we kn;ow about that, Guy, we did that of and on for years with our dog rich-c: you can hope, Pam Dan Bienvenu: I'm back... de retour... Dan Bienvenu: hello again! Dr.Druselius: ROTFL juxtaposition of rich-c and Guy B. last statements! rich-c: but just remember lawyers are where politicians come from, mostly BobS: Abby is going to WANt burgers and rice from now on !!!!!!
(BobS gives Guy B. a can of Diet Coke.) Pamela: Rich, you gotta remember to multi-converse! Guy B.: I had her spend the day at Jeanene's apartment yesterday and she felt better there. Guy B.: Thanks Bob. BobS: the Coke will go with the burger Pamela: spoiled puppy Dan Bienvenu: Dr.D. why I send you my mail address last time? Judy: yes, we have all got our own lawyers we are going to go broke on them Pamela: I know a couple of cats like that Guy B.: By the way, that's what I had for dinner tonight. Pamela: gee, what a surprise Guy Dr.Druselius: So I could photocopy the ColecoVision OS listing and send to you..which I haven't done yet :-( Dr.Druselius: I did at least finish off that disk drive schematic, though. Dan Bienvenu: ok! I remember now! Pamela: Judy - huh? Guy B.: Anyway, no problems today and think the worst is behind. It's bad enough she had a infection on her left front leg that was caused by a pine needle from the woods. rich-c: btw, I tried teh Adam Emulator on my machine today and it booted Adamcalc rich-c: wouldn't do that last week - wonder why? Pamela: it's a 'puter - need you ask? rich-c: PEBKAC? Guy B.: Gee, Rich. I've been using Adamcalc with the emulator and no problems. Even works with Powerpaint. Dan Bienvenu: adam emulator adamem? it's a DOS application... maybe it was a problem of conventional memory? rich-c: no, Daniel, I was using the Windows front end, Adamemem Judy: Sherri's youngest hurt his nose last night, may be broken Guy B.: Oh boy. Did he fall? Pamela: what is going on with you guys?? Dan Bienvenu: ok! the front-end is for windows but the emulator run under DOS. Judy: yes, on the headboard of his bed Pamela: Ryan, then Meeka, then Ryan again, now this . . . Guy B.: Right. You can setup the emulator using the Task manager if you want. I did with Smartbasic and Adamcalc. rich-c: yes, when I use the front end a DOS window opens Pamela: have you checked for upside down horseshoes or broken mirrors lately? Guy B.: What happen to Meeka? Judy: pretty awful, isn't it? Pamela: she fell down the stairs at home and hurt her ankle about three weeks ago Pamela: right after Ryan broke his arm rich-c: how do you access task manager other than the 30finger salute? Guy B.: Oh that's right. Is she doing better? rich-c: that's 3- Pamela: 30 fingers dad? I wanna see that : ) Dan Bienvenu: here, running adamem crash sometimes because of the memory free space problem (640K conventional memory).
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changed username to e Dan Bienvenu: e ? Dan Bienvenu: who is e? Pamela: e?? e: Erin Pamela: Hi, Rin Dan Bienvenu: hello Erin1 e: :) BobS: VUT KINDA NAME IS DAT ??????? rich-c: well, now, e is something new, but it's West Coast time rich-c: and is e the cheap model of i? Judy: if we aren't on next week you will know that they took us away e: it's just me.....how y'all doin? George W.: judges are nuts
Dan Bienvenu changed username to d b Guy B.: Press Start. Settings, Task Bar & Start Menu. Press Start Menu. Press Add. Follow the prompts to setup the program you want to run. rich-c: ah, Erin - how was teh convention? BobS: no, next week we may be at the antique amll and the fols again Guy B.: Hi Erin. Judy: hi, e e: ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....beautiful, wonderful, exhilarating Dr.Druselius: It's eRin! e: hehehe
d b changed username to Dan Welcome BobS: or AIR...in e: hi Guy e: thanks Bob Dr.Druselius: eRin, iMac... Pamela: sometimes the former, sometimes the latter Bob e: Hi Dr.D Guy B.: Your in a good mood tonight! Dr.Druselius: Greetings and Felicitations! George W.: :-( e: Howdy Pamela: Rin, did you get my email earlier? e: hi George rich-c: Let's see - Task Manager has to be a TSR anyway, doesn't it? e: the virus ......yeah Pamela: 'kay George W.: Hi e e: :) Dan Welcome: the virus? Pamela: the way my day was running, I couldn't remember if I actually sent it Guy B.: Rich C, it's the Start Menu that you can setup the emulator. e: you did and we had it Pamela: did you ignore it? e: yup
Dan Welcome changed username to Dan B Pamela: 'kay that's good rich-c: well, I have the front end as a shortcut on my desktop - works fine Dan B: interesting! tell me more! Dr.Druselius: Virus? West Nile? or something computer-related? Pamela: Oh, shoot - hey Dad - I forgot - happy Anniversary! George W.: ooh, a dead rat Pamela: computer related, Rich - the hoax going around BobS: HAPPY ANNIVERSARY RICHARD....and FRANCES rich-c: Pam got taken by a virus hoax - she also got roasted by a few folks who knew to check Symantec Dan B: what's the name of the virus? BobS: how many years of wedded bliss ??????? Guy B.: Ok, then use that. I don't have the front end, but I setup some of the image disks using the Start Menu. Pamela: 47!!! Judy: is it your anniversary today, Rich Pamela: yesterday, Judy rich-c: thank you, Bob - well done to remember BobS: cool!!!!!!! Guy B.: Wow, congratulations Rich C. e: cool in three years i can get u a cert from the GG rich-c: bob, 48 Judy: happy anniversary than Dan B: I printed the schematics and I will show it to my friends. Judy: one day late BobS: well make u[ your minds you two rich-c: sorry, this is 2002, isn't it - 47 Pamela: how do you figure that Dad? 2002-1955 = 47 Pamela: I only have three years to plan the shindig, Dad - don't rush it Dr.Druselius: +/- 1 at this point is statistically insignificant. George W.: i'm 41 rich-c: amen, Doc Pamela: do YOU wanna plan the party Rich? Dr.Druselius: Sure. Pamela: fine, you're elected Guy B.: Where are we all going to meet at? Judy: so, which is it???? Dr.Druselius: Make invitations with PowerPaint, print on Panasonic KXP-1080i. Pamela: 47. Definitely 47. BobS: lessee.......ADAMCON.....toronto.......at R&F's home.....lotsa cake......guests......PARTY !!!!!!! Dr.Druselius: Make ADAM CPU/keyboard cake. Pamela: bring tux George W.: z80 rich-c: oh no, these things are alwasy held at hotels e: Sheraton is nice rich-c: besides, will you be up for an October Adamcon? Dr.Druselius: Use BMP2PP to make digitize some photos for an ADAM Information Manager presentation, get The Mighty Mitchell to supply some MIDI songs. Pamela: Erin, do I look like i'm made of money? Dan B: Do you want me to do a little small Coleco rom to celebrate your anniversary? I will simply show a full-screen picture of you with a message "happy anniversary".. and maybe a little music, why not? e: sure ...why not? Dr.Druselius: Rent a church basement for a night, have a pot-luck supper (except bride and groom, they need not bring any food). Pamela: put your $ where your mouth is, girl Dr.Druselius: For less than $500, you have a great night out. e: :o) Guy B.: Everyone, I need your opinion. What do you guys think about a adamcon in Chicago/ Pamela: no, thats : $ ) Pamela: I would do it Guy Judy: we would come, Guy Dr.Druselius: I'll take an ADAMcon anywhere I can get to it, Guy! e: hehehe rich-c: I'd prefer Quebec City, but that would be awful hard on Daniel BobS: welll maybe outskirts so hotle costs are down BobS: hotel rich-c: yes, somewhere on the southeast would be best Pamela: Daniel is an AC virgin, perhaps we should ease him in slowly? Guy B.: Jeanene and I were talking about it a couple of weeks ago and she would help me out. I told I give it some thought. BobS: on theMiracle Mile would be pricey Dr.Druselius: We could do a youth hostel ADAMcon :-) My Theta Chis, who take an annual road trip to Toronto, say it's not a bad way to go :-) rich-c: Elderhostel, maybe? Guy B.: I would have it in the suburbs, but close to transportation and attractions here. Pamela: can we ride the El? Judy: would be great to see her again Guy B.: That's the best part Pam. rich-c: Guy, "suburbs" and "close" is an oxymoron in any city the size of Chicago Dr.Druselius: Can Miss Erin come, we need to see her at one of these shindigs :-) Pamela: just like home - ride the subway to get where you wanna go Guy B.: The hotels in the suburbs would be cheaper than in downtown Chicago. Pamela: well, Erin? e: to Chicago rich-c: in Chicago, Pam, that is not how it works e: ? Dr.Druselius: I can bring El(anor) to ride the El...she'd like that. Guy B.: We have two subways in Chicago as well as the L. Pamela: she would think that was very cool, Rich Pamela: think we'll get you to a con Erin? Dr.Druselius: We all like riding the Red Line to the Airport or to downtown, here. e: i'd go to Chicago again I love that city Pamela: we'll just swing by and pick you up e: would there be time for the museum Dr.Druselius: Of Science and Industry? e: or at least a Capone store rich-c: yes, and that's a museum that takes a lot of time Pamela: the Art Institute Dr.Druselius: My Dad was there 40 years ago and still raves about it.
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela: miniature rooms and lotsa costumes and fabrics - I'm with Mom
changed username to late Ron Guy B.: The Red Line serves both Chicago ball parks. The Blue line goes to O'Hare and the Orange line goes to Midway Airport. Dan B: hello! Ron? rich-c: the neat part about the Art Institute is that collection of miniature rooms Pamela: yes, you are Ron late Ron: better late than never Judy: hi, Ron Guy B.: There's Ron. e: i know that museum is huge......last time i was there....there were so many pretty sparklys BobS: Mister Mitchell !!!!!!! e: :o) rich-c: the late Mr. Mitchell - welcome late Ron: had supper out - then groceries - yada - yada BobS: betta late thaan neva rich-c: mostly yada-yada? Pamela: rumours of his lateness . . . late Ron: yeah late Ron: so all are well? Pamela: I'd forgotten about the gem collection Erin, you're right Judy: we are just glad you made it at all rich-c: no, Guy is sick in the head - he wants to stage an Adamcon Dan B: I have a question : Where? How did you get the schematics for the Adam disk drive? e: i knooooooooowwwwwwwww BobS: other than having to work and get tired, yes e: purdie Pamela: <drool> e: exactly late Ron: who is "e" ? ? Guy B.: Ok, thanks everyone for your input. I'll let you know what I decide. e: me Pamela: y'know, I'd just love to put my hands on them - I don't necessarily want to acquire them e: hehehehe....Erin rich-c: seriously, Guy, we'd all go for it, but outside the city would be better late Ron: I confuse easily, and I don't learn well Guy B.: That's what I plan to do. e: i'm never the same person twice Pamela: after all, she's a redhead e: the voices in my head keep me occupied late Ron: now you see e, now you don't Dr.Druselius: Re: schematics, Daniel, I got them from Richard Clee. Where *he* got them, you'll have to ask him. Dr.Druselius: Better redhead than blonde :-) BobS: from the blueprint fairy late Ron: no idea what your mystery word is Dr D. -- did you ever find out? Guy B.: OK, gang. I have to check the e-mail. I'll try for Saturday, otherwise next week. BobS: an overgrown tooth fairy e: that is the most intelligent thing I have ever heard Dr. D....thank you Pamela: nite, Guy e: (blush) BobS: ok Guy, bre good Judy: bye, Guy late Ron: Nite Guy. T'was a good time, not a long time e: bye Guy Dan B: bye Guy! George W.: nite Guy rich-c: see you Guy Dr.Druselius: Shawn Rapp made a good suggestion: Pamela: Hey, Rich, keep it up - you're good at making her blush Dan B: bonne nuit Guy! Dr.Druselius: (oops, by Guy!) e: tooth fairy...................RED DRAGON!!!!!!!!
Guy B. left chat session late Ron: which was? Dr.Druselius: CONCURRENT VERSION late Ron: (haven't been as attentive to my e-mail lately) late Ron: ah late Ron: convey's not much to me I'm afraid Dr.Druselius: Apparently, if a schematic is too big to fit on one sheet, you spread it over multiple sheets...so you have multiple pages which, together, contain just one schematic. rich-c: anyway, I think I got the blueprints from one of the Adam dealers whose remainder stock I bought when they quit late Ron: except the concept of something running with something else Dan B: rich-c : how? where? when did you get the schematics? it's the real schematics from Coleco company!?! Dr.Druselius: Hence, all the separate sheets are of a CONCURRENT VERSION. George W.: i feel like i want to kill myself rich-c: they appear to be late generation photocopies from Coleco originals Dr.Druselius: Another way might be to just say SHEET 1 of 2 etc. late Ron: messy George rich-c: done in a hurry on machines state of the art for 1975 George W.: ihurt late Ron: right. Dr.Druselius: George, please don't do violence to yourself in public or in private. late Ron: Some days I lose my grip on the English language (amongst other things) Pamela: if that's all you're losing your grip on, you're doing well Ron George W.: its not hard to do late Ron: ? rich-c: Dan, apparently Rich has others from other sources as well Dr.Druselius: All are inferior to the ones you have, Richard, in terms of detail. rich-c: by scanning mine then comparing them with other originals, he's clarified many of the blurred parts Pamela: okay - dumb question - why not just send him the originals? Dr.Druselius: But there are some unique schematics at terrible resolution in the ADAM Technical Manual. late Ron: of about the same quality as the ADAM schematics? rich-c: send who what originals, Pam? Dr.Druselius: Richard doesn't have any originals, nobody does that I know of, only various generations of photocopies. late Ron: I have copies of the same copies that you guys have Pamela: rather than scan the schematics, which will make things worse, why not just send Rich the hard copy? Dan B: err... I'm sorry to make you all talking about blueprints ... Dr.Druselius: Richard lent me his full-size photocopies (like 3 feet by 2 feet), which I scanned in 8.5x11 inch pieces, then reassembled, then cleaned up laboriously in Adobe Photoshop. rich-c: why, Daniel? they're a critical issue in our community and you and the others should know about them late Ron: Dan, this goes back to about 1986-87, when the Technical Manual first appeared.....(marked 'secret') Dr.Druselius: The 2 "unique" schematics I have: late Ron: All anybody ever saw were photocopies rich-c: yes, I have a photocopy of the Technical Manual Dr.Druselius: (1) the keyboard schematic, which I got with a surplus keyboard I bought from American Design Components. It was a bad photocopy on a legal-sized piece of paper. late Ron: I actually made a copy of the technical manual. Her Majesty knows nothing about it even to this day, but she paid late Ron: the bill Pamela: I'm sure her Majesty can afford it, Ron Dr.Druselius: (2) the prototype serial-parallel board, which was in a stack of other bad-copy schematics in an envelope with the ADAM Troubleshooting and Repair Guide, itself a Coleco publication. late Ron: There was one in Ottawa that made the rounds George W.: i can't afford anything rich-c: yes, if I recall my copy was used as a training piece for the Board of Education of the City of Etobicoke late Ron: We were all so keen to have information - in any form Dr.Druselius: A few years ago I had enlarged this to 3'x2' size and attacked it with whiteout, trying to fix it up and decipher the labelling. rich-c: two whole semesters worth of business students learned photcopying on it late Ron: hah....neat trick Rich Dr.Druselius: I could fix the straight lines, but the lettering is mostly hopeless. rich-c: oddly enough, Ron, it wasn't my idea late Ron: oh really! rich-c: one of the commercial teachers actually approached the rest of the staff for projects Dr.Druselius: I made a little progress by reference to my disassembly of the 68701 ROM image that was in it; that at least told me what lines from the 6801 were being connected to what. late Ron: By the way people....totally unrelated topic.... Pamela: what scares me is they actually taught photocopying! Dr.Druselius: But the rest was guesswork...and now I can't find my roll of this schematic...so it's back to scanning the too-small original bad photocopy. late Ron: while I have your undivided attention Dan B: I saw a new version of "omnipage" an OCR software... are you sure it's impossible to extract text from Coleco BIOS doc you have? rich-c: aside, Rich - are Z80s now in short enough supply that salvage sources are being looked to? George W.: i have to go now late Ron: for next year, I am leaning toward July 24, 25, 26, 27 Pamela: well I'm listening, Ron Dr.Druselius: OCR on program listings is very dangerous. You have to check everything so carefully that you are better off retyping it. late Ron: THIS IS SUBJECT TO CONFIRMATION Pamela: g'nite George Dr.Druselius: Ooo, after my anniversary for once. Works for me. Dan B: ok! good night George! ... in french : "bonne nuit George!" e: bye bye George Dr.Druselius: Good night, George...and don't do anything hasty. rich-c: nite George Judy: night George George W.: nite all rich-c: see you Sat if all goes well Dr.Druselius: Yes Ron, #include <std_disclaimers.h> late Ron: yes along with stdio.h George W.: ok, poof
George W. left chat session Judy: shouldn't be a problem for us, Ron late Ron: just thought I see if there were any show stoppers BobS: welll this IS short notice Ronald.......may have to take off the whole month of July............. Dr.Druselius: Can I E-mail George some psychotropic agents as an attachment? He is getting creepy... late Ron: please do Bob Pamela: might be a problem for us Ron, but I'm not sure we're coming anyway, because of Kimberly's wedding late Ron: awww Pamela: next year is going to be crowded BobS: SAY WHAT??????????? Dr.Druselius: Move the wedding to Comox, problem solved. rich-c: ouch, yes, I'd forgotten Kimberley's wedding late Ron: would there be an alternate date better for you Pam? BobS: crowded is GOOD Judy: not cool, Pam Pamela: Bob, Kimberly is getting married on June 28th rich-c: when is the wedding, Pam? didnt you say June 28? Dr.Druselius: And Ron distinctly said July, right? BobS: that is a whole monthe BEFORE ADAMCON late Ron: I did indeed say July Pamela: the same weekend as this year Ron as far as timing, but don't move it just on my account Dr.Druselius: (and to Richard, Z80s are not disappearing anytime soon) Pamela: plus, that week is traditionally the one that my boss takes her vacation in Judy: why not,Pam, you are important to us Dan B: do you want me to do a special little Coleco rom with a full-screen picture and maybe a little music for the wedding? Pamela: I don't want to inconvenience everyone else for something we may not even be able to attend rich-c: basically Comox is about a two-week drive at our leisurely pace, so we'd have ten days slack Dr.Druselius: Bingo! Excellent suggestion, Daniel! Pamela: Kimberly would love that Dan late Ron: August 7/8/9/10 doesn't really work for me, and the following week is getting a bit late for those who want to travel north/south Dr.Druselius: Exchange vows with a cartridge game! Bride is PLAYER 1, groom is PLAYER 2. rich-c: how would she play it, Pam? you don;t have an Adam and neither does she Pamela: ah, but you do Dad BobS: hey kids.......we gotta hit the hay here.......so we be seeing ya'll........K ???????? Dan B: ... weel, maybe it's not a good suggestion at all. late Ron: a wedding west of the Rockies is a wedding in Heaven Dr.Druselius: DO YOU TAKE PLAYER 2 TO BE YOUR SPOUSE? PRESS FIRE BUTTON IF YES, ARM BUTTON IF NO. Pamela: Nite Bob, Nite Judy - be well rich-c: well, as long as it's a cart that plays on a bare Adam, I have a spare 1702 monitor rich-c: nite, Bob and Judy - be back soon late Ron: what's that about firing at a spouse? Judy: bye for now, talk to you next week BobS: nite!!!!! Dr.Druselius: Bye Slopsemas. late Ron: you have my attention Pamela: I like the way your mind works, Rich e: live long and prosper
BobS left chat session
Judy left chat session late Ron: g'nte Slopsemas Dr.Druselius: At least someone does, Pam :-) Pamela: darn tootin Dan B: ok! maybe we can start a little something... we need more brainstorming. Dr.Druselius: It gets me in trouble sometimes, to be sure. rich-c: anyway, Daniel, I do have a borrowable Adam and monitor Pamela: Ron, problem for us is, I'm in the wedding party which means I'm throwing the shower, plus paying for apparel which is considerably more expensive than usual rich-c: of course, all our plans are predicated on Dubya getting settled with Saddam e: i gotta buy a dress???? Pamela: last time someone asked me to be in their wedding, it cost us +$1K late Ron: but Pamela, didn't you say the wedding was in June? rich-c: otherwise, we don't drive further than half a gas tank from home Pamela: Yes Erin, you have to buy a dress e: (sobbing) Dr.Druselius: Unless you're having a Betazoid wedding, e. Pamela: June 28 to July 24 = 2 paycheques Dan B: I will probably need to know more about the wedding if I start a Coleco project for this event. e: that would work fine for me Dr.D e: so much simpler late Ron: ok, I see (I think) Dr.Druselius: hehe Pamela: there there Erin, just think of it as another political shindig e: the above still applies if anything like this w/e Pamela: last time I checked Ron, flights to BC were in the $2K per person range e: hehehehe Dr.Druselius: For the uninitiated, the Betazoids on Star Trek: The Next Generation have their weddings with all the participants nude. Pamela: TMI Erin late Ron: that's full rate late Ron: you don't have to pay full rate Pamela: I know Pamela: but still e: ;oD Dr.Druselius: Wow, maybe I better start looking *NOW* for flight info. late Ron: we were quoted 1100. Comox/Halifax late Ron: although, knowing Air Canada. they probably charge more going on one direction than the other Pamela: don't forget Rich, for us it's a domestic flight - for you, international rich-c: best quote would likely be Hamilton/Comox stop in Calgary on WestJet Dr.Druselius: Don't know which would cost more, never travelled "international". late Ron: yeah... I can get to London England much cheaper that it would take for me to get from here to Toronto Pamela: probably cheaper for you - they always gouge you for domestics late Ron: or Hawaii, or just about anywhere out of the country Pamela: it's cheaper to fly to Europe than Vancouver Dr.Druselius: Well, as soon as the dates are nailed down, I should probably plunk down my $$$ for a reservation...earlier has to be better than later. late Ron: even so, Pam, that sounds way high late Ron: check Westjet from Hamilton. They come here rich-c: well, Ron, remember they have to buy two tickets Pamela: well, it was A/C late Ron: right late Ron: so the 2 grand was two tickets? Pamela: I'm thinking of mugging someone for their Air Miles rich-c: who else besides Westjet serves Comox, Ron? Pamela: no, one ticket - two way late Ron: that's it. The Peopls's Airline, and Westjet rich-c: OK - I'm not sure if WestJet is into Toronto yet late Ron: good Lord Pamela: it's early days yet Ron - don't sweat it late Ron: no, last I checked. Hamilton is closest late Ron: and that was about a month and a half ago Dr.Druselius: Maybe fly to Seattle, then up to Comox? That way it's all "international"? rich-c: as you know, Ron, Hamilton is not a problem late Ron: do-able eh? Pamela: Hamilton is only about 45 minutes away rich-c: Rich, if only Air Canada and WestJet serve Comox, your final leg has to be from one of their connecting points late Ron: think that even we held the thing in Vancouver, there would still really be only 2 airlines from the Canadian side of the border Dan B: I have to go now... BONNE NUIT TOUT LE MONDE! (good night all!) write me an e-mail directly because I'm not in the Adam mailing list. late Ron: nite Da.n..be good Pamela: bonne nuit, Dan rich-c: don't know if you have anyone flies Cleveland or Detroit to Calgary Dr.Druselius: Good night, Daniel. rich-c: nite Daniel, see you soon e: bon soir e: ciao late Ron: Yes, you can also pick up Westjet in Calgary...direct to Comox Dan B: maybe saturday.. maybe not... rich-c: hope so Dan Dan B: * p o o f *
Dan B left chat session Pamela: the other problem of course, is getting R on a plane e: just sedate him Dr.Druselius: Getting Ron on a plane is hard? late Ron: me you mean? rich-c: no, Russell late Ron: oh right Pamela: oooohhhh no, no way - can you picture me trying to handle Russell while he's stoned? Dr.Druselius: Russell is an aerophobe? Pamela: he'd be silly, he'd be cheerful, he'd be a handful Pamela: or two rich-c: he won't even go out on their apartment balcony e: HAHA....i would pay to see that....excellent entertainment Pamela: Russell doesn't like heights late Ron: and those are heights he'd be dealing with Pamela: and don't repeat that on pain of death late Ron: understand Pam rich-c: Ron, Vancouver would be a lot easier and more convenient, though not as much fun Pamela: thanks Erin, the next time he gets drunk I'll send him your way e: no, I just observe thanks...more fun that way e: :o) Dr.Druselius: Take a train? Pamela: gee, thanks a lot Rin Dr.Druselius: If I had the time to spare, I really think I'd look into it. e: np late Ron: Yes, I have thought of that Rich, although it would be more difficult for me to set up, it wouldn't be impossible Pamela: thought about that too Rich, we've been exploring our options. Same problem applies though Dr.Druselius: Transcontinental rail...like the Orient Express. rich-c: no way, Rich, the transcontinental is so popular it's surely booked solid already for next summer Pamela: what do I do with him through the mountains? Dr.Druselius: Ouch@ Dr.Druselius: make that Ouch! late Ron: only trouble is, hotel rates are about twice what they are here Dr.Druselius: Greyhound? rich-c: how about out in Surrey, down towards the border? still pretty hefty? Pamela: is there such a thing as a GTA - Comox direct flight? Pamela: I late Ron: well, if I take the info we gleaned for 11, I'd say yes, although we really didn't check anything out in Surrey Pamela: have also contemplated blinders rich-c: nope, looking down into the Fraser Canyon from a bus level on the highway - scary! late Ron: looking at a minimum of $110 Cdn per night....probably more like $120. Pamela: ditto with the train, ditto with a car. Any chance a transporter will be perfected in the next year? Dr.Druselius: Sigh. Not to be facetious...but maybe he should start a deprogramming regimen...it really isn't quite "healthy". rich-c: when we went to Seattle we stayed in Vancouver, and our rates wre not in that league at all rich-c: can't guarantee the hotel would be suitable but there were a number out Kings Highway late Ron: Well...there you see is part of the trouble. I did all this via letter, phone and remote. Here I was able to talk about the event eyeball rich-c: and a rather nice restaurant too as I recall Dr.Druselius: It's not like he'd be Bill Shatner sitting on the wing with the gremlin... late Ron: to eyeball.. Vancouver is not exactly in my back yard Pamela: we're talking Russell here Rich Dr.Druselius: You know him better than I do, Pam :-) Pamela: you're getting there late Ron: I am not prepared to comb the city of V ancouver looking for a place rich-c: very true, Ron, and quite reasonable Dr.Druselius: Well, only viable alternative seems to be to stay home :-( Pamela: if you don't do Comox Ron, how will we ever get a chance to see it? late Ron: not prepared to propose that either e: ciao all.....i sleepy late Ron: no Dr.Druselius: I don't expect Intel to come out with a Mark I Heisenberg Compensator by Christmas 2002. rich-c: however perhaps a check of the tourismBC website might yield some promising leads? Pamela: nite sweetie late Ron: good point Pam e: :* late Ron: we did that too rich-c: nite erin Dr.Druselius: Bye Erin, be a good redhead :-) late Ron: what I found was that what they publish in the way of rates has nothing to do with what they actually charge for a group like us e: that's not possible Dr. D......hehehehe Pamela: she doesn't need any encouragement, Rich e: poof
e left chat session rich-c: true, it really only gives you an idea of who to talk to late Ron: But my intent is to re-visit the question of place and rates, (sometime in the next month) and actually talk to a few hotel reps about late Ron: it againi Dr.Druselius: Well, I'm coming to Ron's backyard, wherever he declares that to be...it will cost me what it costs me, I am prepared and won't complain about it, it's a rare opportunity not to be missed. late Ron: I am very much aware of the difficulties presented by Comox for those coming from afar rich-c: I am very torn - for scenery I prefer the Island Pamela: and if it's at all possible, we will be there Pamela: come hell or high water or airplane rides late Ron: fear not good folk rich-c: my only caveat is that I know connections to Vancouver area are so much easier late Ron: it will be west of the Rocks - Pamela: stick to your guns Ron and go with Comox rich-c: but frankly, I hope Pam and Russell use the WestJet option through Calgary late Ron: and that's even more true Rich now that it was a year ago late Ron: We have direct flights from Calgary, but from Vancouver, it's now necessary to change terminals....which was not the case before Pamela: I want to go back to the Island late Ron: hope I haven't scared everybody off rich-c: it's also a brak in the flight at a better time in Calgary rich-c: Pam won't have to do without a cigarette as long Pamela: no way Ron Pamela: if they'll let us off the plane, and if they'll let us smoke in the terminal rich-c: the only thing that will scare us off is impossible oil prices on driving or flying fuel supplement late Ron: more to follow..... to further my own HTML education, I'm planning a website - again hopefully in the next month rich-c: and that depends on how successful Dubya is in starting his private war late Ron: right Dr.Druselius: Argggh, mention not our Fearless Leader, ugh, whatta maroon. late Ron: the chief thing I have going for me here in the Valley is that hotel rates are about 1/2 to 2/3 what the are on the lower mainland Pamela: moron, too rich-c: and that is no small difference these days, Ron Pamela: but that burgundy really becomes him late Ron: so that would offset to some extent the extra air fare rich-c: I suspect restaurant prices may be a bit more modest too late Ron: a bit late Ron: depends on where you eat Pamela: sorry Rich, couldn't resist Dr.Druselius: I could bring MREs in my suitcase to save on food :-) late Ron: we've got some high end too late Ron: MRE's ?? rich-c: Meals TReady to Eat late Ron: aha - SPAM late Ron: drool! Dr.Druselius: Yep, military rations. late Ron: love it Dr.Druselius: K-rations they used to be called. Pamela: can't you just eat sandwiches like the rest of us? late Ron: I think I'm the only person in the world who loves SPAM Dr.Druselius: No, I like it, too. late Ron: ok Dr.Druselius: Can eat a can's worth sliced up for sandwiches. Pamela: I don't think I've ever tried it rich-c: so do I though I can't tell how many years it's been since we had some late Ron: exactly Pamela: brb, gotta set up to tape for R Dr.Druselius: Christina hates it, the rest have a guilty love for it :-) Dr.Druselius: We even made up a SPAM nursery rhyme: Dr.Druselius: Mary had a tin of SPAM, Dr.Druselius: Its grease was white as snow, rich-c: like, you're bringing up most of your daughters right, but there is this one problem... Dr.Druselius: And everywhere that Mary went, Dr.Druselius: The flies were sure to go. Dr.Druselius: :-) rich-c: did you know there is actually a Spam museum in Hormel's home town? late Ron: I can eat SPAM here and there late Ron: I can eat it anywhere Dr.Druselius: I do so like green eggs and SPAM Dr.Druselius: I do so like it, Sam-I-Am. late Ron: :) Dr.Druselius: SPAM haiku: Dr.Druselius: Mysterious meat Dr.Druselius: Lying on my Wonder Bread Dr.Druselius: I will not eat you. Dr.Druselius: :-) late Ron: Um....... Pamela: Poetry and Dr. Seuss - how old are we? Dr.Druselius: 40 on 3 November... late Ron: the ADAM Group's level of discussion has changed direction Pamela: going on 5 late Ron: I will not say in which direction late Ron: nite Pamela Dr.Druselius: Good night, Ron. Pamela: nite Ron rich-c: nite Ron late Ron: sleep well all....dream of mountains and sea rich-c: and conventions in their lee Pamela: ah, a man who gives good directions late Ron: Oh God! late Ron: I'm leaving Pamela: gotta love it Dr.Druselius: It's autumn, leaves always fall then. Pamela: oh, leaf the poor guy alone late Ron: the old oaks in the front yard are at it even as we speak late Ron: first to leave in fall, last to arrive in spring Dr.Druselius: First in war, first in peace, last in the National League... late Ron: nite
late Ron left chat session Dr.Druselius: I ought to be going, too...it's too quiet upstairs, wonder if the baseball game is over. Dr.Druselius: Joan was watching it. rich-c: right, time I packed it in too Pamela: and I suppose I should be going to bed too rich-c: see you Saturday if you make it Pamela: 6:00 am comes way too early Dr.Druselius: okay, good night all. Pamela: nite Rich rich-c: nite daughter, nite Rich Pamela: Daddy, I'll see you Sunday Dr.Druselius: 5...4...3...2...1... Dr.Druselius: boom!
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