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changed username to George rich-c: hello George George: Hi Rich rich-c: feeling a bit like November now George: yes George: i almost fell asleep rich-c: its about 440 here, cloudy, windy rich-c: 40 George: i was going to say isn't that hot rich-c: watching Edmonton at Winnipeg - it's 28 there rich-c: our overnight flurry has melted away George: it's cold here rich-c: how cold? George: i'm under the covers rich-c: I meant outside George: i don't know the exact temp. rich-c: like, I don't even have the 3-1/2 beaver blanket on the bed yet rich-c: even though obviously it has been below freezing here George: it just says 47 F George: feels colder rich-c: for the change period, that's chill George: my apartment only goes to 68 rich-c: Winnipeg had their coldest October on record George: our October started at 87F rich-c: we keep our thermostat at 21C - csn youfigure that in F? George: Oct. 31 it was 38F George: i'm unable to compute that rich-c: our Halloweeners werer out in freezing weather rich-c: 5 degrees C = 9 degrees F rich-c: but 0 C = 32 F George: i have to get a miracle blade or we will tearing our Thanksgiving turkey apart rich-c: you'd be amazed what a little sharpening will do even for a cheap knife George: my knives are so dull they can't cut butter rich-c: we compost all our vegetable waaste rich-c: so I have to chop up my grapefruit ever morning George: i don't know how to sharpen knives well rich-c: I have a cheap little sharpener - V-shape piece of carborundum in a plastic holder rich-c: works very well - do my knife every Friday George: i have to buy a sharpener rich-c: grapefruit rind really dulls a knife rich-c: you dont need anything fancy George: i don't like grapefruit rich-c: that is too bad, it is very good for you rich-c: however it can conflict with certain medications George: i like oranges and tangerines rich-c: they are very sweet George: lemmon and limes too rich-c: we are very fond of clementines, especially the ones from Morocco rich-c: somehow the Spanish ones dont seem so good George: because of the cooler climate rich-c: I will eat almost anything as long as it didnt live in water rich-c: parts of Spain are pretty tropical year round George: citrus fruits like very hot weather rich-c: oranges can stand a limited amount of frost George: but there sweetness level drops rich-c: you may well be right - havent got into it that deeply George: i was told that by growers rich-c: most of our oranges come from Florida and California George: same here rich-c: but we also get marmaleade oranges from Spain, Jaffa from Isreal, and reverse season fruit from Sout Africa George: i'm not sure if we get citrus from outside US rich-c: there are a lot of things you do without George: friut flies are a concern rich-c: when we went to Adsamcon they siezed my lunch orange and Frances' kiwiw fruit at the bordeg George: oh, boy rich-c: the medfly business has some grounding in reality but really its a non-tariff barrier to trade rich-c: my orange was South African and the kiwi fruit was from New ealand George: i think the US growers also have something to do with it rich-c: sorry, it was my apple they took - no nedflies on that! rich-c: yes, Americans are notorious for talking free trade and practicing protectionism George: they don't want our prices to drop rich-c: yes, your food prices are absolutely horrifying rich-c: we go into an American supermarket and wonder how you can afford to eat George: our farmers still say they can't make a go of it rich-c: farmers always say that rich-c: some of them are even telling the truth rich-c: but you will notice your farmer out in Mennonite country arent hurting George: yes, but they are sellig off their land and getting out of the business rich-c: some of that is because land near cities is getting so valuable George: in PA we lost a lot of farms and putting up housing developements rich-c: the big factory farmers are making a mint George: they are mainly owned by companies like ADM rich-c: dont know ADM but Cargill is big in grain andf Armour big in meats rich-c: it is surprising what grows where George: their slogan is ADM supermarket to the world rich-c: did you know the odds are 9 out of 10 your mustard came from Manitoba? George: at least it's on the same continent rich-c: or that Saskatchewan growas more lentils than any other distinct political unit in the world? George: i haven't had lentils in a long time rich-c: nor I except in the odd salad; you forget they exist rich-c: but it never occurred to me that a food so popular in the Mediterranean would be grown here George: here they say it's mainly an animal feed rich-c: but then, we sell a huge amount of pasta to the Italians George: we get lots of products that say product of Canada rich-c: we have some famous local specialties George: yes rich-c: there is a small farming area north of Toronto called the Holland Marsh rich-c: it produces fantastically good garden truck rich-c: you cant buy their produce in Toronto usually George: huh? rich-c: the New York restaurants and their suppkiers outbid us George: oh George: New Yorkers will eat anything rich-c: Frances was delighted she got some Marsh carrots this week rich-c: but top New York restaurants will pay top dollar for the world's best George: if they can rich-c: they take our truck, Quebec dairy products, our icewine, Masritime seafood George: i still like my Jersey tomatoes and corn rich-c: we get a huge amount of frozen veggies from the Garden State rich-c: but we grow our own tomatoes, only way to get them ripe George: most of the big farms in South Jersey are gone now rich-c: havent been down in that area for a bit George: it looks just like Philly rich-c: all urban subdivisions George: yes rich-c: there is a big fight about that in Ontario right now George: you need to save the land rich-c: we have lost far far too much rich-c: the real hot area is in the Niagara peninsula George: we almost lost it all
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changed username to Ron rich-c: we were lucky - the discovered icewine just in time rich-c: greetings Ron Ron: not late or anything George: even the pinelands are under construction Ron: was busy watching golf George: Hi Ron Ron: Hi George rich-c: we were just discussing urban sprawl Ron: ah yes...... even here in our quiet retirement town we have that rich-c: I am watching Winnipeg/ Edmonton Ron: Edmonton must learn to hang onto the ball methinks Ron: if 'n they wish to progress further rich-c: they do have a bad case of the dropsies Ron: indeed Ron: Did you get my e-mail Rich? rich-c: if today no, havent checked yet Ron: oh ok.... was just asking..... Ron: when you stayed in Vancouver, what highway was that you were on? rich-c: if it's urgent, what's the qword? Ron: Kingsway? or King George Highway in Surrey? rich-c: OK, it was Kings Highway, runs down through Surrey to the border - main road for that I believe Ron: mmmm....that's what I thought you said.. Can't find it on the map Ron: will have to look closer rich-c: could well be King George Highway Ron: there were several on the King George Highway Ron: have the latest tourist guide here Ron: anyway, that's all the message was about rich-c: wonder if I have any info left over from that? Ron: yeah, they have them listed by area - ie. Downtown, Surrey, Delta, Richmond rich-c: only 24 sec in the half - let you talk to George while I look Ron: Most convenient to the airport of course would be Richmond Ron: ok Ron: So howz George? rich-c: this was not convenient to the airport George: cold, i'm under the covers rich-c: brb Ron: No, I realize that, although most of the hotels have some kind of transportation setup Ron: stay warm George Ron: you guys near winter down there? George: getting there Ron: right. Out here on the west coast, we had frost this morning George: ok Ron: still quite chilly outside George: we are at 47 Ron: Brrrrr. George: going down to 30 Ron: yup. sounds like late autumn all right George: brb, i need to get a drink Ron: fax me one while you're at it rich-c: have some Van city maps now George: ok rich-c: gimme a minutre to look at them George: wal- mart soda pop ok? Ron: yup that's good Ron: right Rich rich-c: we stayed on King George Highway (99A) just above highway 10 Ron: Ok now I know where you are Ron: Have my letter prepared, and I'm going to choose 3 there, 3 around Richmond, 3 in Victoria, and 3 in Comox Ron: just to see who answers Ron: Rates in the area you suggest are generally in the ballpark, but higher a tad than Comox and Victoria rich-c: notice 99 hooked down around from the airport but we were close to my cousin in White Rock and the border Ron: might be a bit far away Ron: but probably no worse than Orlando rich-c: the mainland is more convenient but the Island is a nicer place rich-c: Frances wants to visit it again especially if we are able to drive there Ron: true. I'm just curious at this point to see who comes back with what kind of prices George: try Fiji rich-c: anyway, assuming the truck conversion works out and my health will take it, we are for Comox Ron: Mom and I stayed in Victoria last week at a place right within walking distance of the legislative buildings Ron: $69 per night but that's winter rates Ron: they have a meeting room that would be perfect rich-c: and als senior rate but not convention rate which should be better Ron: it's a Quality Inn Ron: well, we shall see George: oh,my they are talking about erections on the learning channel rich-c: most of the big chains are satisfactory Ron: Actually, just about any damn thing in the moderate range would be as good as Bob S. paid last year Ron: that was $80 US per night rich-c: just comes down to best price and layout for our purposes Ron: yup Ron: Of course in terms of my own personal logistics, I'd rather stay on the Island Ron: but that's only one factor rich-c: I think the Slopsemas would rather be there too Ron: ya Ron: anyway, you can consider my last e-mail answered rich-c: and if Dr. D can get a deal on WestJet out of Hamilton that could work nicely Ron: sent it last night - late Ron: yes, that's the key right there Ron: because they come right to Comox rich-c: oh, I was watching BC demolish Saskatchewan - first half then I went to bed Ron: what did it end up at 21-3 or something? rich-c: Cleveland to Hamilton is not a challenging drive and I imagine parking is adequate Ron: Thereby determining once and for all that BC is NOT EAST rich-c: 28-3 according to the Star this morning Ron: aha Ron: loser of that game last night joins the Eastern conference playoff structure rich-c: and Dr.D will have the advantage of the exchange Ron: well yes, that's the kicker right there Ron: But as he told me in Grand Rapids, "in for a penny, in for a pound) rich-c: he might even like a flight that breaks in Calgary Ron: indeed........ may as well come and see the place rich-c: well, let's keep it as close to pennies as we can Ron: yup, anyway guys, Mother wants the mall, so I must be off rich-c: OK Ron see you Wednesday Ron: yess sir... be well both of you Ron: bye rich-c: bye now
Ron left chat session George: bye rich-c: so looks as if much progress is being made George: were you going to leave? rich-c: no, I was vGUELY SURPRISED YOU DIDNT CIRP A BIT rich-c: MIND YOU IT WAS ABOUT THE NEXT aDAMCON George: oh rich-c: sorry bout that rich-c: and you aren rich-c: t exactly likely to contribute heavily to a discussion of Vancouver geography George: i got involved in a tv program about viagra rich-c: but then all chats are like that -talk when we have something to say, be quiet when we dont rich-c: well, I gather that for them as needs it Viagara is very highly valued George: yes George: right now i'm a busted balloon rich-c: I gather that Viagara is dangerous for those with heart trouble George: i don't know rich-c: also conflicts with a number of medications George: oh rich-c: anyway just as happy I dont need to mess with it George: i think i'm mentally castrated rich-c: whatever rich-c: right now I'm wondering if my OTC medicine is working George: well life goes on rich-c: my hip has been more comfortable than usual of late George: thats good rich-c: went out with Frances last two days shopping for a digital camera rich-c: meant quite a bit of marching around stores and standing around George: find anything good? rich-c: yes, she bought a Pentax 2.1 mp 3x zoom George: can't wait to see the pics rich-c: more importantly, I could still walk today George: good rich-c: oh, it's Frances' camera, not mine rich-c: and I have no idea what sort of pictures she will be taking when George: i got sore walking a very short distance to pay my rent today rich-c: I am very curious if my improvement is from the prescription NSAID or OTC stuff George: it's hard to tell rich-c: all I know is that I have significantly more endurance now that several weeks ago George: i'd take it rich-c: it would be nice to know that the $70 a month the OTC costs is worth it George: anytime it gets better it's worth it rich-c: you have a point I dont think I'd dispute rich-c: interestingly, the medication comes from fairly near where Ron lives George: ok rich-c: they are only selling it in about six of your states George: figures rich-c: they are gradually expanding out of their local area rich-c: they have only made it to Ontario this year George: give it time rich-c: Frances is back from the library now and wants to get on line rich-c: so I will have to get off George: ok' see you Wed. rich-c: see you on Wednesday? rich-c: OK bye now George: ok, bye for now
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