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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: HI Rich rich-c: hello Guy rich-c: glad to see you make it today rich-c: how is the upgrade coming? Guy B.: Well, I thought I drop by until I go to my landlord's house lalter today to help with hooking up his new computer. Guy B.: I haven't installed the memory yet. That should be tomorrow. rich-c: you have been drafted as the in-house guru, have you? Guy B.: He asked me. He's got the computer up, but he doen'st know how to hook the printer up. rich-c: and you are too polite to tell him RYFM rich-c: what sort of computer does he have? Guy B.: He's going to pay me for helping him out. I don't know what PC he has. rich-c: you did say though that it is new, so I guess it's on Win XP and has USB ports Guy B.: I bet will be right about that. So, I shall see and find out. rich-c: the size of teh problem will depend on how old the printer is rich-c: if it's even reasonably recent, it likely prefers to use USB anyway Guy B.: He also mentioned a Fax machine too as well as the printer. I asked him if he has one of those all in one printers. That can fax, scan and print. He said he's not sure. That's why he came over and asked if I could help him hook this up for him. rich-c: OK, if he doesn't know a fax machine from a combo, he is in serious need of help Guy B.: Exactly! rich-c: in fact, I'm surprised he managed to open the carton himself (THAT;s unfair) Guy B.: Well I should give him credit for at least getting that part up. rich-c: I am sure you will have no difficulty bringing light to the unilluminated Guy B.: It shouldn't take that long to get everything up and running. rich-c: it occurs to me that giving your landlord the impression you are a handy guy to have around does more good than harm Guy B.: Any snow up by you?
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changed username to George rich-c: how rich-c: s the weather by you? rich-c: hello George, we are just comparing qweather Guy B.: WE have some sun, some flurries and it's cold here. Guy B.: Hi George George: Hi Rich, Guy rich-c: we had some sun this morning but now it's run off and hid George: i'ts 48 with wind swept rain here rich-c: you still in that heat wave, George? you should be about 55 Guy B.: George, your going to get cold later. George: its's 48 rich-c: I will guess the temprature dropped when it started raining, then rich-c: oh, they have heard of cold and snow in Philly, Guy Guy B.: November is usually when we get out first snow. rich-c: but with the Gulf Stream in their front yard they have only a nodding acquaintance Guy B.: That front should pass through there today. George: i remember snow in October rich-c: yesterday the sag in the jet stream went almost into Texas, so there's a big lump of cold air hanging over our turf Guy B.: We had snow in October too. One year, it snowed on Halloween. rich-c: I have experienced snowstorms in every month of the year but for some had to travel to find them Guy B.: Unlike all that sever weather that hit those 13 states last weekend. Man, that was really bad. Especially for that one town in Ohio. rich-c: normally we dont see serious snow till well into December, but our three biggest blizzards were on Dec. 6th - go figure rich-c: I thought it was TEnnesee that got rally torn up George: i can remember one year we had one snowstorm in October and that was it for the year Guy B.: Both Ohio and Tenn. were hard hit. rich-c: there was a picture in teh paper today of two survivors getting married - in hospital Guy B.: Oh wow. My showed two cars that crashed into a theater and the manager heard on the radio about the tornado. He managed to get everyone out of there and into the hallways and washrooms before it hit. He saved alot of lives. rich-c: yes, buildings with roofs unsupported over a large span have big problems with tornados rich-c: fortunately the local tornado alley is about 30 miles north of Toronto Guy B.: Tornado alley passes right through us here. rich-c: reaaly? I had the impression that Chicago itsdelf saw very little George: we had a F3 tornado here in 1998 rich-c: of course even a central city can get zapped -remember Salt Lake City a few years back? Guy B.: Downtown probably because of the lake, but we are not immune to tornadoes here. We had very close to here in 1967. Oak Lawn had one there. rich-c: in your context, George, where is "here"? Guy B.: Oh yeah! Nashville TN downtown got one too I believe in 1999. George: over my building rich-c: you must be pretty well out in the outskirts then, George George: on the border George: Philadelphia county line rich-c: even at that, coastal Pennsylvania isnt the first place that comes to mind when talking tornado Guy B.: The last real bad tornado here was back in 1988 in Plainfield, IL. I happened to see the storm heading that way from work and they didn't get the warnings out in time. Flattened alot of homes and the high school. Everything was rebuilt, but it took a long time. George: tornados are rare but they do strike every couple of years rich-c: every once in a while we have a swarm of tornados run across between Toronto and Barrie rich-c: but it is still mostly farmland so the destrction is relatively minor rich-c: even so every once in a while a town gets hit rich-c: and with the expansion of the exurbs it's more of a problem every year George: we have a tornado alley near Reading Pa rich-c: that surprises me, tornados usually dont like hilly country George: they have been clustering there the past couple of years George: there were a couple in the poconos rich-c: not quite the sort of place I'm used to hearing such reports from rich-c: but then, Tennesee isnt exactly noted for its spacious flatlands! George: they did a lot of damage Guy B.: Sometime ago we had two water spouts over Lake Michigan and it breezed by our building. It never touched the water and it never came ashore. rich-c: for some reason waterspouts never seem to become damaging tornados even when they come ashore rich-c: I have the feeling the meteorologists are baffled as to why Guy B.: We saw them form right over the lake and we watched them go by. They were heading south. rich-c: anyway, George, I though ol' man Weather was too busy flooding the Susquehana and Delaware to award you-all any tornados Guy B.: Did you see the movie Twister? George: the same reason hurricanes die when the hit shore rich-c: as it happens, Pamela borrowed a copy of Twister4 and brought it over here to watch it one night rich-c: so it is one of the very few movies I have seen in the last 30 years or more Guy B.: There was one waterspout that did become a tornado in one scene. George: you mean there are 4 twister movies rich-c: farn dingers rich-c: in music they call such things grace notes George: i haven't seen the original rich-c: you havent missed much, except some fairly spectacular special effects Guy B.: Twister is the one with Helen Hunt. rich-c: the last two movie tapes I watched were "South Pacific" and "Brigadoon" rich-c: I like movies with Gene Kelly and Cyd Charisse Guy B.: The classics for you Rich. rich-c: specifically, the big classic musicals George: i don't watch many movies rich-c: back when music had enjoyable tunes and words that made sense and even rhymed George: busta rhyme rich-c: ? George: a rap artist rich-c: "rap artist" is an oxymoron George: it sells George: more than sinatra rich-c: I guarantee there wont be as much of busta's music played 40 years from now as Sinatra's rich-c: in fact I would be surprised if he outsells 40 year old Sinatra stuff now rich-c: and dont tell me about the charts - they leave things out rich-c: otherwise every bestseller list would be topped by the Bible, since in reality it is the most-bought book George: i wouldn't mind having some of bustas billions Guy B.: Speaking of Old Blue Eyes, I have a Greatest Hits collection from him. rich-c: given the rapacity of the recording companies, he likely has little more than you do - just an expense account for show/publicity purposes rich-c: I have eyed a number of collections like that, but they are all American and when you convert the price of the CDs into our dollars George: i think i'm going to loose my lease rich-c: and then add shipping and taxes and stuff - fuggedaboudit rich-c: non-payment of rent or too many wild parties? George: if do loose my lease i'll be in the street in January rich-c: well, if you know any social workers, I'd talk to them and see if such a fear is realistic Guy B.: How long have you lived in your current place George? George: the new owner wants to get rid ofsection8 8 and turn the apartments into luxury apaapartmants rich-c: section 8 -that is a part of a local or state law on such things? George: i was her 12 years Guy B.: Then he will most likely get more money for those, since he wants to get people who can afford them. rich-c: yes, but most cities and states now have rules on when you can do apartment conversions Guy B.: But, wouldn't he have to get an Ok from the government to do that George? George: i have no place to go rich-c: with partial rent control and microscopic vacancy rate, it's all a big issue in Toronto George: in this state they can convert as long as it is private rich-c: often tenants can fight it and delay conversions for years, even so long the owner gives up George: that is privaely owned George: darn fingerts rich-c: our law applies to privately owned buildings - among other things the city uses its zoning laws and building permit requirements to control things rich-c: in our neighbourhood a developer got permission to tear down some reasonably priced walk-up apartment buildings George: here the private owner has he right of way rich-c: but he had to find temporary accomodation for those displaced and give them prefeered space and prefeered rent in the new building rich-c: notice he got to tear down the buildings and build a new one - but the tenants were protected George: the owner rules in PA rich-c: bet there's a Philadelphia lawyer or two who would dispute that - and win George: would dispute him and win rich-c: guess you will just have to keep track of what is going on and develop the appropriate strategy George: i came from the school of hard knocks and know better Guy B.: George, are there other apts that will take Section 8? rich-c: you're forgetting - you cant fight City Hall - but neither can he George: they are phasing out section 8 rich-c: sorry - I missed something. What is Section *? Guy B.: Oh boy! Now, I can see the situation your in. rich-c: 8?
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changed username to DanB DanB: Hello! bonjour! Guy B.: Hi Dan. Glad you made it in. DanB: I'm using another computer than mine Guy B.: How's the recovery going on your system? Were you able to salvage what you could? rich-c: salut, Daniel! DanB: I will purchase antoher HD to replace the one who doesn't work. George: too many complaints of section 8 bringing property values down rich-c: you came in just as I went out for a drink of water DanB: The computer re-start now without any problem... but I still have a HD problem Guy B.: Get a Western Digital. They have a 3 year warrenty and are the best on the market. George: land the property owners are about to revolt rich-c: Daniel, please do us a favour and see if your dead hard drive still carries any warranty rich-c: I would hate to see you pay the price of a new drive if you could have it for free DanB: I think it still in warranty... but they will probably just give me another one.. no data transfer Guy B.: I agree with Rich there Daniel. DanB: So, I will purchase one and try a data tranfer myself George: hi Dan
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu rich-c: we have disposed of your twin Daniel Bienvenu: I see that Guy B.: Your back Daniel. rich-c: anyway, Daniel, maybe you could find another drive to use temporarily rich-c: or even save an image of the bad drive onto a CD Daniel Bienvenu: I didn't find one big enough. The broken HD is 30Gig and the one my friend have for me is a 10 Gig... Daniel Bienvenu: I have a good news.. my backup on CDs is OK rich-c: surely you don't have a 30 gig hard disc filled! Daniel Bienvenu: So I didn't lost my data about Coleco programming pictures etc. Daniel Bienvenu: Yes it was filled 80% rich-c: like, I have a 40 gig hard disc - but an image of my C drive fits on i-i/2 CDs George: i lost my entire computer i couldn't salvage it Daniel Bienvenu: I have a TV card to capture any clip I record on VHS. rich-c: I have one of those in my basement but have never fitted it to a computer Daniel Bienvenu: So it's why the 30Gig is allways filled 80% rich-c: OK, scratch bright idea number one Daniel Bienvenu: Someone talk to me last night about XXCOPY rich-c: around Toronto, I don't think it is possible to buy a 30 gig HD any more - 40 is teh least anyone sells Daniel Bienvenu: it's a freeware who can do many things and also clone your data on another partition (drive). George: Medion puts out a computer with a seagate 120 gb. hd. rich-c: right, Fred Langa wsas talking about that in his newsletter a few months back rich-c: I also have a freeware that will clone a partition onto another partition or drive George: Aldi has it advertised but has set no price rich-c: in fact, didn't I give someone the URL for that a few chats ago? it's on a Frenchsite Daniel Bienvenu: the best price I found for another HD 30Gig like mine is there : www.shoplci.com Guy B.: Well, gang. I have to get going. So, I'll see you guys on the 27th. I'm watching the season finale of The Batchelor this Wednesday and it's two hours. I'll see you then. Can't make it next Saturday. I have to take my dog to the vet. rich-c: the biggest HD being offered at a serious discount here is 100 gig - bigger ones are less discounted Daniel Bienvenu: 2022 Lavoisier #196 Daniel Bienvenu: Quebec rich-c: OK Guy, see you then - meanwhile take care Daniel Bienvenu: 30Gig Maxtor 107$
Guy B. left chat session George: bye Guy Daniel Bienvenu: bye Guy rich-c: hold on a sec, Dan - brb Daniel Bienvenu: ok George: i got a Maxtor 30 gig for $49.00 George: sorry thats $39.99 rich-c: you are tal;king US dollars, George - multiply by 1.6 for comparison Daniel Bienvenu: in canadian dollars George: i don't know about conversion rich-c: factory direct are only offering refurbished 7200 rpm drives this week George: the one i have is new rich-c: and computer warehouse just have 8 and 60 gig George: i got it at Compusa George: on sale rich-c: sorry, Daniel, I'm looking through The Computer Paper but not too many hard discs quoted this issue Daniel Bienvenu: there is also Future Shop with a Western Digital 40Gig (but 5200rpm) 99$ (after rabate) Daniel Bienvenu: in canadian dollars Daniel Bienvenu: of course rich-c: that is a fairly good price, Daniel rich-c: here the small offerings are 20 and 40 gig, hardly any 30s rich-c: figure a WD 40 gig 7200 rpm at about $115 rich-c: for your purposes, the Future Shop unit is likely a fairly decent buy rich-c: I went from a 5400 to 7200 HD when I got the new computer but cant see any difference rich-c: refresh my memory, Daniel - you bought your computer from Costco or something? Daniel Bienvenu: I bought my Packard Bell computer at future shop but I bought my Maxtor HD 30Gig at Costco rich-c: that's the disadvantage of dealing with Costco - when things go wrong they dont want to hear about it rich-c: a regular dealer will often intercede for you with the manufacturer rich-c: still, you might try an inquiry by email with Maxtor - maybe they have an agent there who could help George: have you ever heard of grapeseed oil? Daniel Bienvenu: I don't know... I still have the box rich-c: I have a suspicion the hard disc business is extremely competitive at the moment and they will do helpful things you would not ordinarily expect Daniel Bienvenu: I didn't go at Costco with my HD rich-c: you could try that - the worst they can do is say no rich-c: Bob says that Maxtor hard discs are effectively guaranteed forever, though taking advantage of the guarantee may be awkward George: here they bannish you from thier store rich-c: and George, as far as I know, grapeseed oil is not toxic but has no significant commercial application rich-c: dont be ridiculous, George George: i don't know they were talking about it on food TV rich-c: I think you mis-heard something, George rich-c: I can tell you that if a product from an outfit like Costco is defective, they usually tell you that warranty claims are between you and the manufacturer George: no it's from the grapes used to make wine rich-c: I know George, what's left is the mix of stems, seeds and skins called pomace rich-c: the Italians use it to make grappa rich-c: otherwise and more often they use it as fertilizer on the fields George: now they are talking about truffles rich-c: even Bill Gates finds truffles expensive George: they are comparing truffles to women rich-c: a good truffle can cost upwards of $10 per gram - a gram in less than 1/4 ounce Daniel Bienvenu: I finish! I have done a frontend Windows to compile a ColecoVision project in C just by clicking on a button rich-c: well, truffles are the J. lo of foods... George: now they are jumping to cheeses rich-c: like, Daniel, it takes your code and automatically compiles it without superfision? rich-c: vision Daniel Bienvenu: without knowing how to use the compiler George: ? rich-c: you may not need such a thing but I bet you will find it handy Daniel Bienvenu: want to try it? rich-c: I have a hunch Dale and Dr. D. will be very interested in it too Daniel Bienvenu: Which Windows version they use? rich-c: heavens, Daniel, I can't even get the emulator to work, let alone write code George: you lost me Daniel Bienvenu: Ok George, I will try to explain rich-c: hang in there, George, you'll [pick up the trail sooner or later Daniel Bienvenu: There is a freeware named Hi-Tech C compiler for Cp/M Daniel Bienvenu: To use it you have to run a CP/M emulator Daniel Bienvenu: The one I choose is 22nice rich-c: I suspect for business reasons Dale pretty much has to use XP Pro Daniel Bienvenu: it's a CP/M emulator for DOS Daniel Bienvenu: So, my frontend run 22nice in a popup DOS window Daniel Bienvenu: Then run the compiler Daniel Bienvenu: with the correct parameters Daniel Bienvenu: Only by clicking a button George: i still don't know how to use redhat linux rich-c: I suspect, Daniel, that George would not understand less if you explained in French - he is not a programmer Daniel Bienvenu: I'm talking about windows 9x, Me, NT, 2000, XP... not LINUX Daniel Bienvenu: I simply do a front-end to avoid you typing a comand line Daniel Bienvenu: that's clear now? George: not to me Daniel Bienvenu: You know how to click a button? rich-c: I can follow it, but would not be about to take advantage of it George: yes Daniel Bienvenu: You just need to know how to click a button to use my frontend for the Hi-tech C compiler I ahve done now. rich-c: right - it would be very useful if one got uncompiled code, wouldn't it? George: but i don't know how to run an emulator rich-c: have you ever tried, George? Daniel Bienvenu: Which OS you use George? Daniel Bienvenu: Win 2000? 98? XP? Daniel Bienvenu: Me? NT? George: just ADAMEM in dos using -cv Daniel Bienvenu: ok! ADAMEM... good choice! rich-c: OK George, you have tried to use the Colecovision emulator then rich-c: your game programs would run from that, wouldnt they, Daniel? George: only to run the colecovision game cartridges Daniel Bienvenu: The little front-end I have done is for compiling ColecoVision project easily rich-c: that's all the Colecovision part can do Daniel Bienvenu: I can add a button to automaticly run a Coleco emulator to test the rom. rich-c: Daniel's programs are the equivalent of cartiridges - images of the chips in the carts Daniel Bienvenu: After compiling Coleco projects the result is a ROM file like the one to be in carts. George: i have a full list of roms George: a-z rich-c: Daniel, are your carts posted somewhere where George can download them, or should I send them to him? Daniel Bienvenu: And if you know how to project in ANSI C, you may be able to compile your own Coleco projects. And it's more easy now with the little front-end I have done now. George: i collected them some years ago rich-c: dont advertise that fact beyond our little group, George - you arent supposed to have them Daniel Bienvenu: www.geocities.com/newcoleco ... you may find a few new ones Daniel Bienvenu: and also informations about Coleco programming George: i also use vcoleco.exe for windows Daniel Bienvenu: Knowing you just compile a ROM, it's a thrill. Daniel Bienvenu: want to try it? rich-c: Daniel, getting back to your computer problems for a minute... Daniel Bienvenu: I have done a little test file to test my frontend. rich-c: is there any online disc space - say on a university server - where you could stash an image of teh dead drive? George: i need to learn more Daniel Bienvenu: My computer problem will be solve when I will have cash to pay another HD... then I will be able to do a data transfer and after that request a new HD because of the warranty Daniel Bienvenu: I didn't find anyone who have enough free space to do an image disk rich-c: seems to me that poses two problems - one, the delay in getting the price of the new drive, and two, what will you do with the extra drive when the warranty replacement arrives? Daniel Bienvenu: Keep it to duplicate my data... to avoid losing all data if the new drive crash too rich-c: that's why I asked about the university - they might have server space if they would allow you to use it Daniel Bienvenu: university... they refuse to help me. @no cash@ they said rich-c: will your computer support a RAID1 array? Daniel Bienvenu: I don't think so.. o be honest, I don't know rich-c: you'd have to have a Promise chip or similar, and the connections, on the motherboard Daniel Bienvenu: I will check that when I will be back at home tonight rich-c: I asked because a RAID setup automatically gives you a backup rich-c: one of the extras on my motherboard is a RAID0/l capability - backup or striping rich-c: you might try a Google search too - there are places on the internet that allow you a free "X drive" rich-c: that is, places where you can stash data temporarily as if it was a hard disc Daniel Bienvenu: maybe but with my 56k modem it will take so long to dump. rich-c: yes - 24 gig is a rather big transfer on a dialup connection George: i hate those long uploads and downloads George: 24 gig would take forevevr Daniel Bienvenu: This wednesday, I will have enough money to purchase a new HD. This way I will be able to continue my work at home. rich-c: what are you complaining about? you have DSL Daniel Bienvenu: Me? a DSL? rich-c: no, George Daniel Bienvenu: no way, I'm using a 56K modem rich-c: any used computer shops in your area that might have a used HD at a better price? rich-c: I'm guessing no judging by the local scene, but one never knows rich-c: btw, Daniel, I also find 56K sufficient Daniel Bienvenu: I don't think so... I really need a 30Gig to dump data from the broken HD. rich-c: you might stumble across a pull from someone upgrading to a bigger drive, but that's it Daniel Bienvenu: The only HD used I found herre is a 10Gig rich-c: all very well, but far too small for your needs! George: lets hear it for tomato ketchup rich-c: change of subject, Daniel - maybe you can help rich-c: my impression is Win98SE has native support for USB 1.1 but needs a driver for USB 2.0 - is that right? Daniel Bienvenu: good question Daniel Bienvenu: My computer is working under win98.. I upgraded for Win98SE and I really don'T know rich-c: I need to get a USB card for my laptop and need to know if I have to get a driver too Daniel Bienvenu: if I can plug a pci card with USB 2.0 ports rich-c: oh, USB 2,0 ports will simply default to USB 1.1 if support isnt available rich-c: I have 2.0 ports that work fine in 1.1 mode with Frances' digital camera rich-c: but in the Manager those ports show with a yellow question mark rich-c: I just dont know if the driver is hidden in Windows but uninstalled or if I have to add it Daniel Bienvenu: i don't know rich-c: anyway, getting on towardds dinner time - I am going to have to leave rich-c: so I shall wish you both a good afternoon rich-c: and hope to see you Wednesday rich-c: bonjour, Daniel and good day, George George: ok, bye Rich , Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bye rich-c: colour me gone
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