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changed username to George rich-c: well, didnt take you long to show up, George George: Hi Rich rich-c: I am still showing 3 p.m. sharp atomic clock time rich-c: how the weather down in Philly today? George: Brrr! Brrr! Brrr! it's cold rich-c: define cold in your terms George: bone chilling rich-c: like, how many degrees? George: 40 something rich-c: geez, these effete Easterners - that's swimming weasther George: we have wind gusts to 40 rich-c: it is almost up to freezing here now, about a 10 degree improvement from this morning rich-c: yes, we've had a bit of wind too George: i got my turkey rich-c: right, you folks have your Thanksgiving some strange time of year, don't you? George: yes rich-c: what is it, next Thursday or something? George: the 28th rich-c: right, Thursda6y - that was my young brother's birthday George: i got a 18 pound turkey, now i have to stuff it into a 15 pound roasting pan rich-c: you using a foil pan or a real hardware item rich-c: ? George: a real emamel roasting pan rich-c: in that case I reckon you'll be able to cram it in without a problem rich-c: brings to mind a little bit of trivia George: blue enamel that is rich-c: how did David Dunbar Buick lose his fortune? George: i don't know, i blew mine rich-c: he went into the automobile business rich-c: which raises the question, how did he make his fortune in the first place? George: figures George: i have no idea rich-c: give it a guess since it relates to our discussion (and no, he wasnt a farmer) George: never heard of the man rich-c: you've never seen a Buick automobile? George: not sure George: i know it's a car thats all George: beyond that i'm lost rich-c: well, that's all the information you need to make the name connection George: was it a lemmon? rich-c: anyway, the way that he made his fortune was (wait for it) rich-c: he invented porcelain enaml - as on your pot, refrigerator, stove, etc., etc. George: oh rich-c: Buick has been a strong-selling and moderately popular auotmobile in the U.S. for almost 100 years rich-c: it is one of the four makes sold by General Motors George: ok rich-c: and General Motors historically has been the biggest automobile company in the U.S. and often the world George: i forget what my father drives rich-c: have you seen the commercials with Tiger Woods selling a station wagon lately? it's a Buick George: whatever he drives is big and gray rich-c: if it's seriously big and a sedan, it would be a Ford or Mercury most likely George: it's cheap rich-c: big Fords are popular as police cars, Lincolns (fancier model) as usually the most popular airport limousine rich-c: relatively speaking and for the size, the big Fords are cheap rich-c: the model I'm thinking of is the Crown Victoria, if that rings any bells George: the man is frugal never pays more than $100.00 for the car rich-c: in that case it could be old enough to be a Chevrolet from back before the big ones were discontinued George: i guess rich-c: the big old cars can be made to last well, like my 1973 Mercury George: no dings though rich-c: yes, keeping the body intact is the key George: and a fairly nice paint job rich-c: the older cars are simpler and cheaper to repair, though finding parts is a problem George: no signs of rust rich-c: mine has the original paint and no rust, and yes, it's quite shiny - had a special paint treatment when it was new and it has lasted George: people are already out doing there Christmas shopping George: oops wrong thier rich-c: well, they havbe about five weeks to go, but time flies rich-c: sorry, I was multitasking trying to find a picture of the Mercury to send you, but no joy George: i have to wait till i get my December pay rich-c: anyway, they say Thanksgiving is the biggest shopping day of the year in the US George: i usually watch the parades George: and cook rich-c: Toronto has already had its Santa Claus parade, last weekend rich-c: it's very famous, carried on your television too rich-c: anyway, why did you get an 18 lb. turkey? how many folks are you feeding? George: i thing they tape it for thanksgiving down here rich-c: possibly, though from what I hear most networks like to show it live George: just my father, sister, and me rich-c: well, that should cut your food expenses for December - you'll still be eating leftovers at Christmas ;-) George: unless Toronto has a parade on our thanksgiving rich-c: no, Toronto's parade is on the Sunday after REmebrance Day George: i think CBS airs it rich-c: I wouldn't know; if it's a simulcast the Canadian production would be substituted on cable and satellite anyway George: ABC shows Philly's parade rich-c: who shows Macy's parade in New York? NBC? George: either CBS or NBC both show several parades rich-c: well as you know I only use television for auto races and football rich-c: and the races are over till February rich-c: and football winds up with the Grey Cup tomorrow evening rich-c: not saying I will not turn on the tv again till next February George: our football goes till the the end of January superbowl sunday rich-c: on the other hand have no reason to expect I will, either rich-c: problem is, once youre accustomed to Canadian fottball, the NFL is so dull George: what about the XFL rich-c: is that still in business? I thought they folded George: now defunked rich-c: the advantage our game has is in the difference in rules George: Vince Mc Mahon finally fell on his face rich-c: the field is much wider and a bit longer with deeper end zones rich-c: so the teams are allowed an extra man to compensate rich-c: but they have only three downs in which to make ten yards rich-c: there is no fair catch - punts must be fielded George: i still can't understand the game rich-c: a kick including placement that goes through the end zone scores a point rich-c: it's very simple - a dozen guys try to move a ball 100 yards while another dozen try to stop them rich-c: sorry, in your game, eleven guys George: they made me play it in high school George: boy was that a sight rich-c: here schools certainly have all sorts of sports teams but participation is voluntary George: i took took out most of the teams valuble players rich-c: sounds like your tackling methods might not have matched the rules too well rich-c: what position were you playing? George: plowed everyone down George: they just let me go my own way so i don't know rich-c: running back, then? rich-c: ok, I don't think we should necessarily pursue this one George: all i know is they called it animalball when i played rich-c: anyway if you want to see a good fottball game, the Grey Cup is the Canadian championship game rich-c: it is at 6 p.m. eastern tomorrow and some folks will carry it - YES and Sunshine networks for sure, but others too rich-c: could be even someone like ESPN or the Deuce will pick it up as a special George: never heard of Sunsine networks George: i don't get ESPN rich-c: neither have I, maybe it's down in the southwest or something - regiional and not your region rich-c: I would have thought ESPN was basic package on cable with you George: no rich-c: anyway, Fox Sports or FX is likelier, come to think of it rich-c: try checking your tv listings tomorrow just in case rich-c: there will likely be some talk about it Wednesday rich-c: Ron as a westerner with family in Edmonton will be rooting for Edmonton rich-c: George and Freddy will be pulling for Montreal, the eastern team George: we get ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, FOX, WB, UPN, TBS, and TNT rich-c: the rest of us will actually just be looking for a terrific game regardless of who wins rich-c: I get the first five of those, but a few dozen other Canadian channels rich-c: like CBC, CTV, Global, CITY-tv, CHUM-tv, TVO, etc. etc. George: we have a very limited basic cable rich-c: I have the basic package plus sports rich-c: sports is six channels, TSN, Rogers East, Outdoor Life, Golf, Speedvision and another I dont even remember George: there are all sorts of channels i hear about but our cable company doesn't carry them rich-c: we also have local cable news channels, weather channel, a lot of politically correct junk, a French channel or two rich-c: our cable and satellite companies are regulated in a very different way from yours George: we have a russian channel that payper view rich-c: oh, when it comes to other availabilities, I have lost all track and count as to what's possible rich-c: even without getting into pay per view I could end up spending $70 a month or so -no Way! George: we are supposed to be converting to hdtv but i haven't heard much about it rich-c: Some stations and satellites are actually broadcasting in that mode, but few people are buying the sets that can receive it George: my bill runs $50.00 rich-c: I only spend $30 and grude that - in US$ it would be $19 rich-c: similarly, my ISP is trying to talk me into taking DSL service George: maybe i should move to Canada rich-c: but it would cost me $210 for six months - about $28 a month George: my aol is 23.90 and their DSL is 31.05 extra rich-c: and I am only paying $100 for 6 months ($16.50/mo appx) for unlimited dialup rich-c: well, as long as you could bring your US dollar income with you, you'd do well George: $ 572.40 /Month rich-c: food is cheaper here, and if you became a landed immigrant or citizen, your medical expenses would be covered rich-c: on the other hand, you don't want to know what rent would be George: my rent is $121.00 / month rich-c: your income in Canadian $ today would be about $898 rich-c: a very average two-bedroom in Toronto rents for $1.024/month rich-c: that is if you can find one, and that isnt easy George: i couldn't afford it rich-c: the waiting list for assisted housing is, last I heard, about six years rich-c: not unless you were into sleeping in the parks, and that can get a little chilly these nights George: no thanks rich-c: figured you'd feel that way George: i would need to be in Hawii rich-c: by the way, how are you doing at figuring out who the folks are on teh chats, and their relationships? George: not good rich-c: OK, who has you puzzled? George: everyone rich-c: well, you know who I am, and Pamela, and Frances, right? George: i think so rich-c: OK, Erin is Frances' sister's daughter, thus my niece, Pamela's cousin George: i called you for the ADAM data drives rich-c: she lives in Windsor, works in the office of a cabinet minister (hence the politics) rich-c: yes, I'm past president of the Metro Toronto Adam Group, once the largest non-commercial Adam group around rich-c: the current president by the way is Dale Wick, who is a partner in a software company specializing in graphics rich-c: you know that Dale and Jillian just had a baby boy, Jeffrey George: ok rich-c: Ron is a retired civil servant now living with his widowed mother in Comox, B.C. on Vancouver Island rich-c: Ron is divorced; his grown son Jeff occasionally joins in our chats rich-c: when he was in Ottawa Ron was president of the Adam group there rich-c: Bob Slopsema lives in Grand Rapids, MI, wife is Judy, son Douglas, daughter-in-law Meeka George: Dales, and Jeffrey picture is on the ADAMCON.ORG site rich-c: right, if you poke around you'll find pictures of many of us there rich-c: I tend to be the little old grey-haired guy with his back to the camera George: ok rich-c: Daniel is a graduate student at Laval University in Quebec City, so he speaks French but has some English George: do BOb and Judy have two lines? rich-c: he is very knowledgable about Coleco games and programming Adam rich-c: no, Doug is a bit of a guru and has networked them to share the same connection rich-c: how he managed to do it on a dialup account has everyone else baffled George: ok rich-c: in fact, when Meeka comes on with them she is networked in too George: wow rich-c: it was Doug who did all the tech backup at our last Adamcon; he could get and keep anything working George: ok rich-c: Freddy is a very young fairly recenntly married man who lives in suburban Montreal rich-c: he has a young daughter (couple of months now), is French-speaking with very little English rich-c: that is why he sometimes makes inappropriate remarks or doesnt get the point; its a language problem George: ok rich-c: Fred and Daniel as you know have only just recently discovered the Adam community George: i thought so rich-c: Dr.D is a research doctor (Ph.D.) in the biology department of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland rich-c: he also teaches a course in robotics - that is what his Lego lab is about rich-c: he has four young extremely well-brought-up daughters rich-c: his wife is a PhD. in pediatric nursing who works in the local hospital rich-c: Dr. D. found his Adam contacts in BASIC - Best Adam Support In Cleveland George: ok rich-c: the key figures are Herman Mason and George Koczwara rich-c: George was an Ohio state trooper but left and now drives a truck, Herman is an electrrician rich-c: Herman had a young son (about 26) who just very recently dropped dead from a heart attack George: oh,my George: thats too young rich-c: james is a young man from Ottaw3a who married a Japanese girl and went to live in Japan rich-c: he knw Ron when both were in Ottawa rich-c: now he runs his own school in Japan teaching computers and English George: Did rich-c: every year he brings students to Canada on a field trip - we met them last year and may do so next year George: ok rich-c: Guy works for one of teh big fraternal organizations in their Chicago office George: ok rich-c: he was married when we first came to know him about ten years ago but subsequently divorced rich-c: don't say anything that would be a giveaway, but the Jeanine he talks about constantly is his ex-wife rich-c: my own suspicion is that while they still arent ready to co-habit they arent sure the divorce was the best answer after all George: i haven't noticed rich-c: if you see him in Adamcon photos, he has a cochlear implant which you can see rich-c: he is actually profoundly deaf but the implant gives him very good hearing, better than most rich-c: got a better idea now of who the folks are and whre they're coming from? George: a little rich-c: gradually you will learn what they like to talk about and can get a conversation going rich-c: pay attention to what they are saying and chip in where you can, or ask a question George: i can't tell who is who from the emails though rich-c: well if you're on the Adam mailing list then you have a far bigger cast of characters George: ok rich-c: but dont be shy about asking who Joe Blenkle or Zonker or Shawn are if you're curious George: i would guess i'm on it rich-c: if you know those names, you are rich-c: that's the only way you would get emails from them George: i might of heard of Shawn rich-c: right, but when one puzzles you, make a note and ask during chat rich-c: anyway, think it's about time we shut down now George: ok. see you Wed. rich-c: right - remember to start thawing your turkey long enough in advance rich-c: bye now George: bye for now
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