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changed username to FredK FredK: Hi Rich rich-c: salut, Fred
changed username to George FredK: ca va? rich-c: je vais tres bien, merci. Et toi? rich-c: Hi George George: Hi Rich, Fred FredK: Ca va bien merci! FredK: Hi George rich-c: both of you arrived at once George: oh, no rich-c: how is the family doing, Fred? Haven't heard much lately FredK: Surviving a bad virus rich-c: not the Norwalk, I hope! FredK: Fever, Sinus that stuff... FredK: dunno rich-c: that's worrisome - babies have good defences, so when they get sick they get really sick FredK: I brought the crap home, then to wifey then to baby FredK: yes I was really worried about Meganne! FredK: but she pulled through... rich-c: picked it up at work, did you? very common this time of year FredK: yes FredK: hate it FredK: have to wash my hands all the time, but then try avoiding door handles all the time!! rich-c: fortunately since I worked in a school I got exposed to everything and eventually built up great defences FredK: lucky you! rich-c: also twigged to teh uses of heavy dosing of vitamin C - worked very well for me FredK: Vitam. pills rich-c: when I retired I had over a year and a half of unused sick leave built up FredK: so did it give you earlier leave? rich-c: no, but the board bought out half a year of it, which was a nice retirement bonus rich-c: especially as I could roll it untaxed into an RRSP and that was when interest rates were 17% FredK: when you say half a year you mean like half a week or so right? rich-c: no, I mean I got six months pay as a bonus FredK: WOW rich-c: trust me, the school board got the better of the bargain FredK: but still you never called sick at work ever? FredK: how did you do that! rich-c: have you any idea if I'd used the time what they would have paid for supply teachers? FredK: I can imagine. rich-c: sure I was sick at times, had a couple of episodes with back spasms that had me immobile for a week rich-c: and once took six weeks off for a hernia operation plus recovery FredK: been there! rich-c: but basically I earned maybe 500 leave days and used 200 over a quarter-century and more FredK: super that it was cumulative... rich-c: but I suspect George is trying to figure out how we do that rich-c: it helps to have a strong union - actually not a union, a professional association rich-c: but because of teh supply issue it helped the employer to have it cumulative FredK: they dont just do it for fun im sure... rich-c: well, you get sick, the company can to teh job tomorrow rich-c: work in a school and get sick, there still has to be a body in the room rich-c: and there are quality issues with that replacement body, too - kids need continuity FredK: I believe that!
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: anyway, that was long ago and far away, so to speak George: kids adapt to change quickly
changed username to BobS rich-c: greetings Robert BobS: HALLO all FredK: Hi Bob George: Hi Bob rich-c: they do, George, but not in the first hour or so BobS: how's everyone?????? FredK: Alright! rich-c: still on teh right side of the grass - how 'bout you-all? BobS: yu[ George: they do it faster than I BobS: yup BobS: some kind of flulike thingy is working fulltime, but so far we are on the top side of it
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changed username to WB WB: Hello All! rich-c: yes, Fred has been having issues with that too, Bob rich-c: hi Willie FredK: Hi George: Hi WB BobS: YOU willieB BobS: O BobS: YOP BobS: YO BobS: got it right that time rich-c: and all of us half-frozen tonoght, right? George: i'm still getting mailing errors BobS: no way......we are nto too bad for cold rich-c: you mean on the Adam list, George? George: yes rich-c: don't worry about it - there's always someone changing his ISP and not telling anyone rich-c: what do you mean not too bad for cold, Bob? BobS: about 20 degrees f here.........not cold for winter George: we have up and down temps here in philly rich-c: actually you are right, Bob - in Toronto Feb. 5th is on average teh coldest day of the year George: we feel our flashes rich-c: well, I think you're sharing in our Arctic breakout right now, George George: for a day rich-c: from now on the average daily temperature starts back up again BobS: hmm.........we are "average" which means nothing......can easily get to 0 Fahrenheit or below rich-c: anyway we're between 10 and 15F at the moment and that is cold enough for me George: in three months we head to the beach BobS: yes........i agree rich-c: I am still using the Mercury and it doesn't have a block heater WB: And then you complain about the heat! rich-c: as I recall, Willie, Chicago knows quite a bit about heat George: Mercury is bad stuff WB: Yes heat and humidity rich-c: well, I wouldn't recommend drinking much, George George: you get it in fish BobS: just be nice to the old Merc Richard and it won't care if it has a heater rich-c: you have more of a continental climate but we're downwind of the lakes which moderates things WB: Mercury also known as quicksilver is poisonous rich-c: well, put in winter oil and had it retuned so now it starts FredK: you mean 5W30 rich-c: yes, Fred, normally it runs on 20W50 FredK: really! George: where can one find an AT motherboard these days? rich-c: it's a trailer hauler so gets really hot on a summer haul BobS: heck, Fred.......my 2002 Mercury specifies 5W20 all year long.....BAD idea, I go along with Rich on 20W50 for summer rich-c: in the dump, George; why do you ask? BobS: Ebay George FredK: ok summer but winter gives it rough start thats forsure! BobS: naw, you gott to check Ebay, there is almost EVERYTNIGN there rich-c: unless you've got heat breakdown issues, Bob, I'd say 50 is overmuch for most use George: i need one that supports a P233 or higher processor rich-c: hell, Geroge, any old used computer will have that rich-c: our secondhand shops are full of P233 computers dirt cheap FredK: me no less than 10:30 summer 5:30 winter, but climate is not the same... George: but i still want to use my case rich-c: depending on what you're driving, Fred, you might be able to get away with 5W30 year round FredK: true George: i did a google search all i could find is ATX rich-c: so buy a junker and toss the case, George - it's no big deal BobS: oh, the ford 460 love to drink oil and 20W50 cuts that way down rich-c: ATX is the form factor, that is the size and location of screws rich-c: yeah, but your 2002 Mercury ain't no 460, for sure George: and different power supply connector
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changed username to DougS BobS: right, it has a 260 something engine I think FredK: that must haul. BobS: works swell for pulling the boat George: Hi Doug rich-c: hello Doug, just in time to take over George's problem DougS: hi all. FredK: Hi FredK: rich I copied my program on the basic in emulator rich-c: if you have the full-size Mercury (don't know the model, it isnt sold here) it's a 4.6 litre engine - about 280 CID rich-c: way to go Fred FredK: it took a bit more info. then my original one, but soon came No more Room error.... rich-c: oh dear - still with you? George: there is even a difference between the amd k6-2 500 and the p2ghz cases rich-c: of course it would be - in emulation it thinks it's an Adam and doesnt see the memory really there George: both ATX FredK: yup, but I tried... rich-c: well George, ATX simply defines the dimensions of the board rich-c: I'm not sure it even describes where teh connetors are placed George: and power supplies DougS: actually ATX specifies 2 things. the direction in which the board resides and the power connector used from the power supply. George: it does DougS: normally an ATX case is wider than an AT case because the motherboard actually resides next to the power supply instead of under it. rich-c: OK Doug - what is the difference in teh power supply connectors? DougS: AT power supply uses a p8 and p9 connector. each with i think 7 pins. DougS: an ATX power supply uses a single power connected with like 14 pins. normally an AT power supply does not supply 3.3 volts to the motherboard. DougS: that was one of the big reasons to jump to ATX. WB: Well Gentleman I have to be running. I am at work and I am heading home. Do not forget to e-mail me about those old newsletters. DougS: the number of pins i would have to go down the basement to verify. WB: Reach me at WBurnsidej@aol.com. BobS: be good Willie, and be careful out there!!!!!!!!!!! rich-c: OK Willie, good to have you by, see you next week WB: Good Knight! FredK: bye Willie
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: hello! Daniel Bienvenu: I'm late.... rich-c: salut Daniel! FredK: Salut Dan! DougS: and now you have a new variation to ATX power supplies. the Pentium 4 rated power supplies also have a 4 pin square connector for the P4 chip. George: the newer ATX power supply connectors are different from the first ATX connections too Daniel Bienvenu: Salut Daniel Bienvenu: i tried to chat with you saturday... but the web page doesn't work rich-c: Daniel, I found a program called allchars that does more or less what you were telling me about George: Hi Daniel rich-c: yes, I tried to get on and it made my laptop go all weird FredK: I must get going, have a good night all, take care!! BobS: hiya Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Fred! rich-c: went and tried the backup site but no one was there George: nit Fred BobS: nite Fred rich-c: bonsoir, Fred - take it easy Daniel Bienvenu: the backup site?
FredK left chat session rich-c: yes, Rich Drushel has a chat site we use when Dale's isnt working George: no one was at the backup site when i made it there rich-c: http://coleco.cwru.edu.chat/chat.html Daniel Bienvenu: i didn't find the link... it's in the adamcon.org web site? rich-c: no, just one of those things we've gradually shared among ourselves, but sometimes forbet to pass on George: there is a newer site that has the link rich-c: but now you have it (see above) rich-c: newer, George? that one was working Saturday George: i think it's the new convention site rich-c: well, yes, Ron has the convention site up, but it doesn't have a chat room rich-c: Daniel: look at the program at allchars.zwolnet.com - think it will interest you BobS: bookmark this.......http://ann.hollowdreams.com George: http://ann.hollowdreams.com BobS: got it all there rich-c: you mean the links to the chat sites? George: yes George: i have it bookmarked BobS: yes, AND MORE !!!!!!!!!!!! BobS: A.D.A.M. Svcs catalog, ADAM websites......ANN nl's........... BobS: tis MUCHO GRANDE George: aol makes the bookmarks permanent rich-c: by the way, did you notice that AOL is now losing customers, at last? George: i've tried to get rid of a few bookmarks but they keep coming back like a bad habbit rich-c: well, those of us who use reasonable ISPs have no problems with deletions at all George: losing steve case did it BobS: dat's right richard DougS: george, you can use internet explorer with AOL, just minimize the AOL client and run IE. rich-c: no, AOL was a disaster from the get-go DougS: then you should have full control of your favorites. George: at least he knew something about computers now the people in charge don't know squat Daniel Bienvenu: i tried the allchars program... that's good Daniel Bienvenu: but i already have a keyboard with accents rich-c: judging by what you say you've been getting from AOL tech support, no one there never knew nothing never Daniel Bienvenu: :p rich-c: right, nevertheless thought you'd find it interesting since it applied your ideas George: they knew how to screw up a computer rich-c: and how to lie to the customers, yes rich-c: Bob. go look at autoweek.com and see if they have this week's story on the Kenny Brown Mercury Marauder there - you'll like it Daniel Bienvenu: yep! it's a good program there are many symbols i can't do with my kwyboard rich-c: it is likely to be in the road tests - first look section Daniel Bienvenu: oops... keyboards BobS: have seen the Marauder .....we never change we want to race ont he streets rich-c: I have it but it works erratically - I guess it's a case of RYFM rich-c: this one's a bit special rich-c: like, would you believe 460 bhp and rather more torque? George: Ford is getting sued again this time by the police over Crown Vic
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changed username to Pamela Pamela: hi all
moved to room Meeting Place DougS: hi pam rich-c: that, George, is one of those blackmail suits based on nothing
changed username to Guy B. rich-c: hi daughter Guy B.: Greetings!!!! George: hi Pam Pamela: hi Guy DougS: hi guy rich-c: hello Guy BobS: Hi Pam BobS: hi Guyu Daniel Bienvenu: hello! Pamela: mmpph BobS: Richard, somehow I do NOT think the cop would have backed off and let the Marauder go free rich-c: remember. George, it doesnt matter what you are driving George: the police get their way here Guy B.: Gotten pretty cold again. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm at the university and I think it's time to go.... I can stay a few minutes more. rich-c: if you're hit by something big enough going fast enough, your gas tank will go Pamela: brrr BobS: turjn UP the heat Panm BobS: Pam Pamela: had this discussion Bob
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) rich-c: right, Daniel, we'll try and be on one or the other site Saturday Pamela: no control over the heat Guy B.: You got two tonight from me. George: some icecream?
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changed username to Aimee Pamela: very funny George rich-c: gee, everyone's arriving at once - hi Aimee Guy B.: There she is. Aimee: hi Rich Aimee: Hi all Daniel Bienvenu: and the other chat link (in the adamcon web site) or e-mail me. BobS: YO Aimee Daniel Bienvenu: add... rich-c: Guy got you networked in with him? George: Who? Who? who? Aimee: YO BobS Guy B.: While I'm chatting with all of you. I'm putting my printer on overtime. Pamela: hullo Aimee rich-c: what are you up to Guy? Pamela: who are you? George: hi Guy BobS: are you going to pay it time and a half??????? Aimee: hullo Pamela Guy B.: Pam, Aimee and I met online. BobS: Mandy says HI BobS: Judy is coming Pamela: oh yes I remember now rich-c: Daniel: http://coleco.cwru.edu/chat/chat,html Guy B.: How is she doing Bob? George: do I know Aimee? BobS: ok I guess Pamela: nice to meet you Aimee: nice to meet you also George: hi Guy B.: How's Ryan doing? Aimee: hi rich-c: depends on whether you were paying attention last week, George Pamela: sorry I'm slow, I'm trying to finish my bagel BobS: Ryan is good !!!! Pamela: Hi Mandy Guy B.: Yeah Goerge. Do you remember who Aimee is???? BobS: 2 years old and showing it rich-c: that's very encouraging, Bob Guy B.: Great to hear that. George: i was away for a while last week Guy B.: Ok, I'll let you pass on that. Aimee and I met online. George: my crohn's got the best of me Aimee: how long have you had it? Guy B.: Unless the weather's got to you. George: since 1978 Aimee: wow rich-c: no, Crohns is chronic, weather isnt a trigger Guy B.: Oh George, Aimee's a nurse. Aimee: long time
moved to room Meeting Place George: yes i was 17 Pamela: there now I have faster fingers rich-c: but still sticky?
changed username to Judy Guy B.: How did you get it George? rich-c: hi Judy Guy B.: Hi Judy George: a family cluster Judy: hi, everyone Pamela: Aimee, are you networked with Guy, or in a separate place? Pamela: Hi, Judy rich-c: looks like we've got everyone but Meeka tonight, Bob Aimee: seperate Guy B.: And Ron's not yet here either. Pamela: ah Daniel Bienvenu: may I ask a technical question about this chat? Aimee: Hi Judy rich-c: by all means George: my mother and uncle had it rich-c: go for it, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: why I didn't find the text of some of our chat session? BobS: she is prolly lookign over Doug's shoulder Guy B.: We'er waiting! Judy: how is everyone? George: Hi Judy Guy B.: Oh Boy! Dale hasn't put any up for the past two years. rich-c: essentially because Dale has been very lazy about posting it lately Aimee: I am okay DougS: actually she is on the other side of the room in some cross-stitch chat i think :) time to yell at her to get in chat. George: i broke my windows 98 cd by mistake Guy B.: If I'm right Daniel. The last log file Dale put up was around OCtober 2000. Pamela: good one George - how did you manage that? rich-c: how on earth did you manage to do that, George? Guy B.: How did you do that George? George: i sat on it
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changed username to Meeka BobS: why break them?????? just "sail" them into the trach can Meeka: ok,ok, I heard you was calling me :) rich-c: hi Meeka Judy: hi, Meeka Pamela: there she is - Hi, Meeka Guy B.: You should always, ALWAYS, put your CD-Roms in their cases. BobS: SAT ON IT, it si NOT a seast cushion you know Guy B.: Hi Meeka Aimee: Hi Meeka George: i didn't know it was there Daniel Bienvenu: where is the one who talked to me in january about gooddealgame?
(Guy B. laughs heartily) BobS: got eyes George?????? rich-c: we arent into tossing Windows 98 yet - if you know anyone who is, tell them to toss 'em my way!
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changed username to <undefined> Guy B.: Well now. You have to get a new one. <undefined>: Mac-Ron BobS: or live without the CD BobS: HEY Geo,,,,GLUE it Judy: hi, Ron Pamela: Ron, hi - what rich-c: Daniel, that was Scott Gordon in Colorado - SctEGordon@aol.com, I think Pamela: s going on? BobS: hi mighty one !!!!! <undefined>: yo !! Daniel Bienvenu: undefined ? who you are? Guy B.: Now, what if he makes changes to his system and it asks for the Win98 CD? Then he's in trouble.
<undefined> changed username to Mac=Ron Pamela: not yet materialized Ron rich-c: I think it's Ron - must be sunny out in BC so he doesnt recognize who he is ;-) Pamela: ah, that's better Mac=Ron: me Guy B.: There he is. Mac-Ron George: i still have the second edition updates cd though Mac=Ron: large as life, twice as miserable George: hi Ron Pamela: what's causing you misery Ron? Mac=Ron: just an expression Pamela...... happier than heck really Judy: are you sick too Ron? Pamela: okay, just checking rich-c: well, if you have an original Win95 and the 98 update, you're all set Pamela: Ron, have you found a hotel yet? rich-c: what makes you so happy, Ron - seeing the sun? Mac=Ron: nah..... I'm able to sit up and take nourishment - which I seem to do quite often Guy B.: How is Win95 going to help him when he has Win98? Aimee: 95 with 98 updates Mac=Ron: sun..... actually, that was yesterday rich-c: you need a 95 disc to use teh 98 update disc Guy B.: Oh, wait a minute. George do you have the Win98 upgrade? BobS: si senor George: the only thing my second edition cd is good for is the upgrade to windows ME rich-c: that's on a re-installation I'm talking about, of course Mac=Ron: I see we have the full Slopsema contingent aboard this evening Mac=Ron: And that's a good thing Judy: yes, we are all here George: hi Meeka rich-c: you should have come earlier; you missed Willie and Fred Guy B.: I have Win95 upgrade. An original Win95 AND Win98 SE. The Win95 original was to be for my old notebook which I sold. So, I now have an original Win95 CD. Pamela: BTW, Erin sends greetings and hopes to be back on line next week Mac=Ron: yeah, sorry about that - another of these evenings where I'm 6 places at once Meeka: hello Guy B.: I wonder what happened to her tonight. Daniel Bienvenu: be right back Pamela: she is w/o wire at the moment Mac=Ron: Whilst we are duly assembled Pamela: Marie moved out and took her computer with her rich-c: pray proceed Guy B.: You have an annoucement Ron? Pamela: (drumrolllllllll) Mac=Ron: Who do I need to contact to make sure there is an afghan I can win at ADAMCON? rich-c: Jean Stone Judy: what is she up to tonight, Pam Guy B.: Well, Jean Stone is the gal you looking for. Mac=Ron: ok. anybody got an e-mail for Jean rich-c: (vast amounts of silence) Pamela: I spent a loooong time on the phone with my aunt tonite and only got Rin at the tail end so not much but she sends her love Guy B.: Wish I knew myself. Judy: Bob does Mac=Ron: I had it I know.... but that was at least several computers ago Guy B.: Fork it over José. BobS: think it is email@example.com OR com
(Guy B. gives Aimee a can of Diet Coke.) BobS: trouble is, she never seems to get most of the emails....or she ignores them Aimee: thanks Mac=Ron: ok - will try that Guy B.: You welcome. DougS: guessing it is rr.com Guy B.: Darn fingers tonight. DougS: rr.net does not have a website defined. rich-c: while we are on teh topiMel Ostler gave us his email address when he was on a few weeks back Mac=Ron: AC Website was updated over last weekend, in case anyone hasn't looked yet Guy B.: Been typing too much at work this week. rich-c: I wrote it down then lost it - can anyone help? George: PLEASE ENTER YOUR 40 DIGIT CODE BobS: send email to jstone@ rr.net AND rr.com......and also firstname.lastname@example.org AND rr.com Pamela: 123 etc BobS: somewthing will bounce Guy B.: I have to update my website. Besides, I'll have that Dcopy32 update done shortly. Been doing alot of things around here. Aimee: Good Night all!
Aimee left chat session Pamela: Aimee, going so soon? rich-c: nite Aimee, come back soon Mac=Ron: was it something I said Aimee? Pamela: wow, she left in a hurry Judy: night Aimee Mac=Ron: too late George: PLEASE REENTER Pamela: nice lady, Guy BobS: READY ??????????? Pamela: 123456 etc BobS: email@example.com BobS: Mell Ostler's email taht is George: ACCESS DENIED Judy: did you go out with her yet Guy? Guy B.: Thanks. We have had two dates already. She's probably tired from working today. rich-c: that's Mel? OK, got it Pamela: : ( Judy: good for you BobS: in person Guy ????? or onthe puter????? Guy B.: Bob, what do you think? Daniel Bienvenu: i'm back... BobS: don't know....computers a real neat ya know Mac=Ron: Hi Daniel, ca va bien? Guy B.: Of course, in person. George: zoo tycoon is good BobS: well Guy......if she has met you in person and talked to your nutty friends online and still is talkign to you, she must be alright Pamela: hey, we resemble that remark Mac=Ron: Right On Bob Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Mac=Ron, ça va et toi? Mac=Ron: bien monsieur, merci Pamela: someone pass the backscratcher please George: CUT the French Please Daniel Bienvenu: monsieur? ... je me sens vieux ... Guy B.: Gee Bob, Thanks. Mac=Ron: ok. rich-c: just call up a kitty - they're real good at scratching Judy: yes, I could use it tooo pam Pamela: there's a spot just under my right shoulder that's been driving me nuts George: after today we don't need any French Daniel Bienvenu: George doesn't like french language? rich-c: sorry, George, all cultured people will use foreign phrases often Mac=Ron: I was out all day killing off dead blackberry bushes...... them critters fight back, I may yet bleed to death Pamela: remember there's a difference between the French and the Quebecois, George Daniel Bienvenu: George didn't know this : 80% of english words came from french language. rich-c: George is an American, doesnt want to know agbout anyone else Mac=Ron: We anglais tend to borrow a lot Daniel Bienvenu: so George hates 80% of english language? hehehe George: i'm not too keen on english either Pamela: Ron, did you forget your armour? Guy B.: Even though I don't speak or read French. I have to read letters from France every now and then and sometimes I can figure out what they are telling me. Mac=Ron: every time Pamela. I should be wearing the armour, but never remember it rich-c: lessee - blackberry, that's like raspberry with longer thorns? Pamela: what would your mother say? Mac=Ron: she's still laughing Daniel Bienvenu: George talks spannish? Pamela: LOL rich-c: these days, Guy, you can even get a crude "instant translation" on the 'net George: got brandy? Mac=Ron: "told ya," said she, "you must listen to your mother," said she Pamela: she who must be obeyed? Guy B.: I use one at work. Actually I know of two of them. Dictionary.com and there's one on Lycos. Mac=Ron: :) Guy B.: German is the hard one. Pamela: i want a sweatshirt that says that rich-c: I believe Alta Vista has one or a link too Mac=Ron: this is the same one who constantly barks her shins on the dishwasher door Daniel Bienvenu: AltaVista? .. Babelfish? Pamela: Babelfish is the one I've heard of Judy: doesn't everyone do that, Ron George: huh? Pamela: not me (no dishwasher) Judy: they are killers Mac=Ron: (Mac=Ron opens a can of Diet Pepsi) rich-c: Babelfish is the one I've heard of though I've had no cause to use it Pamela: poor me
(S enjoys the flowers.) BobS: nicht wahr, Guy Judy: too cold needed something hot, tea rich-c: right now I'm looking for one that will do me a Latin translation Pamela: into or out of latin? George: what is bablefish? Mac=Ron: I do - the diswasher door when open is right at shin level rich-c: jnto Latin Judy: can cause a bad word Pamela: why? Daniel Bienvenu: babelfish is the name of an automatic translater in the internet. Go to the Altavista web site Pamela: there's a good example of cause and effect, Judy rich-c: I'm having a problem; I need force as a verb George: oh Judy: and the bruise comes later Pamela: oh yes, there's always a bruise Mac=Ron: exactly, Judy Pamela: I have a collection of those myself Pamela: most of the time I don't know where I get them Daniel Bienvenu: I have to go now... bye! aurevoir! Pamela: bonsoir, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: good night! bonne nuit! Pamela: a bientot George: bye Dan Daniel Bienvenu: see you soon! a bientôt! Judy: it is also the right height for Ryan to sit on to watch Mac=Ron: stay well sir Guy B.: Bye Daniel Judy: bye Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: *pouf* *poof* Mac=Ron: hadn't thought of that.... been too long since we had a little person around
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changed username to rich-c Pamela: is it safe for him to sit on Judy? Judy: Bob didn't think it was a good idea
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-c: sorry folks hit the wrong key and killed my display Mac=Ron: probably would strain the hinge if it happened to often Judy: no, we didn't think so but he did Guy B.: Doug, got a question for you. I have WinNT on my Dell. Would it be worth upgrading to Win2000? DougS: depends on the speed, amount of memory, and hd space of the dell DougS: i prefer win2k or winxp to nt4 primarily due to the plug and play support of devices. Guy B.: The Dell is a P II at 400 with 128mb. Mac=Ron: Plug and Pray DougS: win2k would be good. would not recommend winxp on a 400 unless it has 192mb or more of RAM Guy B.: I use Win2000 at work and I like it. DougS: the usb support is pretty good. DougS: some devices work better than others. scanners seem to suck generally all around. Guy B.: That's why I was thinking of. The Dell has USB ports and I may want to use them. DougS: i use a usb optical mouse almost all the time. DougS: got a usb keyboard at work that is cool too. Pamela: as opposed to the traditional PS2 connection? Guy B.: I won the Dell from work and it came with WinNT and some software they threw including a free office suite. DougS: win2k is much more stable than win98 so if you are planning on a reload i would recommend win2k if possible. rich-c: I prefer to use teh PS2 ports for mouse and keyboard and leave teh USB ports open George: i have a usb mouse i put ps/2 adapter on it Mac=Ron: Is there not a problem with Win 2k and "legacy "software? Mac=Ron: Tried it once here, and it was fine for a while, then started giving me "Stop" messages -- my Mac Networking software, it didn't like DougS: depends on the "legacy" software you are referring to. Guy B.: I have a network connection between the Athlon with Win98 and the Dell. I'm able to access the drives thru the Dell, but trying it from the Dell to the Athlon has been a headache. rich-c: yes, the Logitech optical mice come with a USB->PS2 adapter DougS: hehe mixing the work microsoft and macintosh is a bad idea anyway ron. Pamela: Doug, have you tried teh wireless mice or keyboards? Mac=Ron: turns out the Win 2k version of my PCMac Lan software would cost another $100 or so us to Upgrade. Haven't done it yet Judy: Meeka, Katelynn had a bloody nose that was her problem this morning Mac=Ron: that should be US, not us Meeka: thats good, it was nothing serious then Mac=Ron: goes with my scratched up arms Judy: no, guess not George: usb is nice cause i can get easy extender cables and the ps/2 adapter gives me DOS functionality rich-c: Ron, go to Lindows - they have a special $50 this week DougS: played around with a wireless keyboard/mouse combo called a surfboard. worked relatively well, but not really needed when i use a laptop most of the time. Mac=Ron: meanwhile - back in the museum Guy B.: Well folks, I might as well check the e-mail. I might be able come on Saturday. I'm working on Saturday, but only for about 3 1/2 hours then I have an appointment with my hair stylist. Otherwise, if I'm not there, see you all next week. Mac=Ron: This week I was given a 386/40 rich-c: OK Guy, hope you can make it BobS: ok Guy see ya later Judy: bye Guy Mac=Ron: and told the word 'no' was not an option Meeka: night Mac=Ron: niters Guy BobS: WOW a real smoker George: nite Guy DougS: depending on the bios, you can have legacy usb support for keyboards and mice. Mac=Ron: yeah eh? rich-c: hey Ron, that's the real hot-rod version of the 386 - can you handle such power?
Guy B. left chat session Mac=Ron: gonna be tough Mac=Ron: 8 meg of RAM Mac=Ron: Think I'll put Jeff's OS/2 Warp on it rich-c: well, as long as you have a copy of Win 3.1 around, you're laughing Pamela: oooh, I'm jealous Mac=Ron: been lookin for a place to hang that Mac=Ron: Thinkin' it's time for another recycle day around here Pamela: Dad, I installed Belarc Advisor and now I have a question. Should my graphics card not show up under multimedia? George: with the usb my mouse wouldnt work in Dos when i added the ps/2 adapter it worked rich-c: hold on, I'll look Mac=Ron: Anyway good people, I must away Pamela: already Ron, you just got here Mac=Ron: time for my next slice of retirement George: nite Ron Judy: night Ron BobS: well keep us up on matters Ron DougS: need to go in the bios of your machine george. but not all bios versions allow legacy usb mouse support. Mac=Ron: be well all - Pamela: whoops, Dad dumped himself Mac=Ron: yup, Bob Pamela: Nite Ron DougS: later ron. Mac=Ron: :)
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changed username to rich-c DougS: looked for a new bios for your pc? Pamela: any luck Dad? rich-c: must be getting senile - second time I've made that error tonoght rich-c: Pam, it should show in "Display" just above "multimedia" Pamela: ok, hold on a sec - lemme check George: i got the most recent but it's 2000 bios date DougS: that would explain it. i think they started adding that around mid 2001. Pamela: It says SiS 530 Display adapter. Is that upgradeable? rich-c: can't tell, Pam, I've never been inside your machine George: epox doesn't have one after that for this board rich-c: maybe Doug can tell you; he may know what an IBM looks like inside Pamela: Doug, any thoughts? DougS: big blue? i try to stay away from name brand pc's myself. Judy: cute, Doug DougS: about half the name brand pc's on the market allow you to disable the internal video card and add a newer, better one. rich-c: does IBM run towards video cards on-board or in slots, do you know? BobS: oh heck theya re all pink inside, just like people, aren't they??????? DougS: most of the name brands like to build video cards into the board. George: it has some quirks with pci sound cards too Pamela: so in order to upgrade, I need a new motherboard? rich-c: so it will be a question whether the existing unit can be disabled and a card installed DougS: probably can't just do that. name brands normally don't use generic cases either. Meeka: ok, I am outta here, talk to you all next week :):) Pamela: nite Meeka - have a good one BobS: bye Meeka rich-c: nite Meeka George: nite Meeka Judy: bye meeka, did you get any good buys tonight BobS: Pam, just drop it from the window to the sidewalk and then get a newer one rich-c: Pam, did you get any sort of manual with that thing? Meeka: ya, Sherri found a pattern Meeka: no floss on sale though Judy: bummer Pamela: can't afford to do that Bob (not that I'm not tempted from time to time) DougS: hmm. 110volt ac hooked to telephone jack of modem would be just like lightning right? Pamela: yeah, I got a manual Dad but haven't seen it recently Pamela: why?
Meeka left chat session rich-c: well, you could bring it over and maybe we could work out what you can and cant do Pamela: first I have to find it - which means I have to clean out the back room -which means it'll be about six months DougS: give rich the model and machine number and he should be able to get spec's from ibm's site. Judy: how much stuff do you have in the back room Pamela: waaay too much rich-c: judy, she's my daughter - do you have to ask? Pamela: theres' a path from the door to teh computer and the window Judy: oh, the computer room that explains it BobS: well there must be some truth in that Rich BobS: puter room...it has it's OWN room ????????? Pamela: computer/library/dumping ground/storage rich-c: but yes, Pam, if you can give me the exact model number maybe I can find answers Judy: one computer begets another and on and on BobS: I think they ahve baby computers..........er......laptops rich-c: except around our place they tend to be twins - or triplets - or quads - or... Pamela: IBM 2170275 Pamela: Aptiva Judy: at least that is what happened around here Pamela: I only have one Pamela: but wait, I lie - I still have the 486, just don't know if it survived Y2K Judy: well, you need to get with the program rich-c: Pam, CPU is P? 450 Pamela: oh, and the laptop from work (blush) rich-c: it likely did, Pam Pamela: AMD K6-2 466 mhz Judy: see what i mean BobS: course it did...OR I can give you a simple year patch, OR you can simply put it back to 1975 and it won't know the difference BobS: computers are DUMB rich-c: any other prefixes, suffixes, etc. that might give me an extra clue, Pam? BobS: so's Bill G Pamela: checking - hang on DougS: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_2170275 Pamela: such as? I have advisor open BobS: computers are like babies, when they need a diaper change, jsut dump 'em unsode down BobS: upside Pamela: this puter's a strange one anyway - it's an american PC, reconditioned I think, and then imported and sold in Canada rich-c: it's OK, Pam, with the URL Doug just gave me wed should be OK Pamela: well let me know if you have any success Pamela: I wouldn't know what to look for Pamela: BTW, thanks Doug George: there is no such thing as an American pc rich-c: well, we just need to know if you have a removable or built-in video card DougS: isn't that when an american assembles the parts? :) Pamela: wanna bet? Just try to get this beast warrantied George: take a look at where the parts came from Pamela: when I first got it, the CD ROM didn't work. Called IBM Canada - they said it's an American model Pamela: Called IBM in the States, they said - oh no, we can't warranty it - it was purchased in Canada. GRRRRRR. BobS: BAM rich-c: that's OK, in the first few months the dealer does the warranty stuff anyway Pamela: irrelevant now anyway, it's out of warranty Pamela: problem was Dad, I couldn't find the !@#$ receipt Judy: you could keep your snow up there they are saying we are getting snow from Canada rich-c: anyway, daughter, I'm not sure you realize just how cheap new 'puters are these days Pamela: I'm not sure you realize how little disposable cash I have, Dad rich-c: let's say I am aware that it is an issue DougS: well, time to say goodnight guys. rich-c: Comox won't come cheap and will come soon rich-c: nite Doug and thanks for the advice Judy: night Doug Pamela: well, until I pay off you, the dentist, & the endodontist I can't do anything Pamela: nite Doug -thanks for your assistance
DougS left chat session George: now our utilities are going to charge us extra for paying our bills on time rich-c: maybe we need to talk about your options - plan for the time when Pamela: huh? Pamela: you mean re the computer? Judy: well, time to call it a night, talk to you all next week rich-c: that sounds like my car insurance - it's cheaper on monthly pay than single annual cheque George: surcharge mania rich-c: night Judy Pamela: g'nite Judy rich-c: you're right, George - it's disgraceful BobS: time to go here to guys and gals Pamela: Nite, Bob
Judy left chat session George: nite Judy rich-c: right Bob, nite then BobS: see ya next week UNLESS I can remember on Sat and talk doug into it BobS: Auf Wiedersehen !!!!!! rich-c: OK, maybe we'll get lucky
BobS left chat session George: i'm going too nite all Pamela: g'nite George Pamela: take care rich-c: nite George, see you Saturday George: poof
George left chat session Pamela: what did you mean, Dad? rich-c: guess that just leaves us, daughter rich-c: anyway yes, I meant talk about your computer options Pamela: oh. I want to do that and soon. I miss you guys. rich-c: by the way, does your laptop have a modem? Pamela: yes rich-c: OK, I got a 56AK so my 33.6 is now surplus Pamela: well, it's not mine anyway don't forget Pamela: it belongs to the company rich-c: true, though why the company wants it I'm not at all sure Pamela: besides, for some reason I prefer the desktop Pamela: mine is not to reason why rich-c: wait six months more and they'll have to pay you to remove it Pamela: if I can pry it out of Russell's hot little fist rich-c: fortunately, your mother has her own desktop, so I can have mine most of the time Pamela: a two computer household would be nice - I'm sure we'll get there eventually. rich-c: for the record, our plans: tomorrow, your mother has a dentist appointment rich-c: Friday we may go up to the RV show and even have dinner out Pamela: don't think it will be till next week anyway - Russell is off this weekend rich-c: Saturday I will be home, your mother will be at a library school do rich-c: Sunday, haven't seen the racing schedule yet so plans unknown Pamela: where's the RV show? rich-c: up at teh Congress Centre on Dixon Road - admission free, it's a dealr show Pamela: well, if you decide you want to try Le Bifteque, I recommend patience and reservations rich-c: even quite early in teh evening? Pamela: even with a reservation on a Tuesday night, we ended up waiting almost an hour Pamela: was worth it, but you have to have the patience for it Pamela: don't know about early, we didn't get there till 8:00 rich-c: I will take teh warning to heart - and likely end up at Tuckers Pamela: can't go wrong with that. rich-c: we've been there before and found it worthy Pamela: yes, it's one of our many regular haunts Pamela: anyway Dad, it's past my bedtime so I'd better go rich-c: OK see you then whenever rich-c: take care meantime Pamela: I'll get my head out of the clouds and call you soon rich-c: right - nite now Pamela: nite - sweet dreams. Pamela: poof
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