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changed username to BobS rich-c: hello Roberto! BobS: we un' are alone????? rich-c: it's early days yet BobS: hi Richard .........and Frances rich-c: Pam will likely be along later, maybe with Erin rich-c: James will be on if his hotel has a connection BobS: Judy is online too BobS: with her sister and a friend rich-c: doesnt show because she's networked through you? rich-c: oh, on another group, right BobS: doesn't show because she in not here yet rich-c: Jame3s should be in his hotel in Niagara Falls tonight BobS: darn network cards are pretty slick
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changed username to Princess rich-c: if all has gone well we will be joining him for lunch tomorrow Princess: hi people rich-c: looks like that's Rin now BobS: wireless....got them for judy's folks for Xmas BUT aol won't work right with them, so we kept them and thought up another idea Princess: yup it's me BobS: PRINcess Princess: hehehe rich-c: got all the pretty stuff for your grandmother now? BobS: you must say......Yes my good sirs....tis I Princess: almost....waiting on the Lieutenant Governor and the Premier Princess: the Queen's is here though rich-c: Eves probably found out where you work and has decided he doies like you rich-c: doesnt Princess: probably Princess: the leader of the Liberal party wasn't too busy though rich-c: though I am surprised you havent heard from Bartlesman - Tory efficiency in his office, no doubt Princess: most likely rich-c: Bob, Fran's mother will be 100 in eight days rich-c: Erin has been using her connections to get congratulatory messages Princess: *blush* BobS: CONGRATULATIONS BobS: to here anyway
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changed username to George rich-c: existig, little more BobS: last we heard she was physically moving on but mentally coming shrter all the time rich-c: hello George, we've missed you lst few chats BobS: ys GOE BobS: GEO BobS: yo George: Hi Everyone Princess: hi George rich-c: where have you been?
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changed username to Ron rich-c: hello Ron, you're early tonight Ron: Yo! Ron: Well, that's the good news BobS: GOOOLLYY,,,,,,,,tis Ronald!!!!! Ron: The bad news is I have to split in about an hour rich-c: you have another kind? do we want to know? BobS: well geez Ron: Hallo Robert George: i had one disaster after another BobS: did you get the cash and run the other day on your "job"???? rich-c: what happened to you, George? Ron: yep....been paid in full for services rendered George: Hi Ron Ron: Hi George BobS: cool, you are now a tecnical guru....I don't care what some say about pushpin technology Ron: Thank God I don't do it for a living Ron: yeah right rich-c: were you doing Apple or DOS stuff, Ron? Ron: I'm ok as long as I can take as much time as I need Ron: Working in a shop without pushpins and where you have to get 'em in and get 'em out would not be for me Ron: DOS
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: what were you doing? Ron: a virus attack which brought down the machine Pamela: Hi, sorry, running late BobS: hiya pam rich-c: hi daughter Princess: hi pammie Ron: basically, a re-install of Window 95 Pamela: brb Ron: along with recovery of whatever I could first BobS: piece of chocolate cake ron Ron: it's ok when the ethernet card doesn't crap out on you rich-c: ah, OK, it's the recovery bit that makes life difficult BobS: WHOA, recover???? George: my computer fell victim cyber attack during chat a few weeks back then i ended up in the hospital so i couldn't fix it Ron: yep....... basically, you boot the computer with the emergency disk, then pull off onto a zip drive whatever you can salvage Ron: some of it ran afterwards, some didn't Ron: t George: hi Pam BobS: f youa re going to get into this fulltime Ron, you need a "tool".....like a 1 gig sparq drive or a 1 or 2 gig ditto drive - both run off the paralle port rich-c: not during this chat I hope, George Ron: if the damned ethernet card had been ok, I could have done that BobS: dat works too IF you got a big enough zip disk Ron: have a 4 gig drive that I keep for such things Pamela: sorry, making dinner Pamela: did I miss anything? George: yes thats why i was off abruptly Ron: but this time I couldn't use it Ron: yeah, me Pam BobS: what's for din din ????????? Pamela: aw, that's sweet rich-c: what sort of attack got through to you? I thought you had full firewall Pamela: chicken fingers, Bob Ron: wan't my machine that had the virus. Something called ptsnoop Ron: goes around your drive erasing things at a time of its own choosing BobS: ahso.....had stuffed pork chops here we did rich-c: not you Ron, George Ron: oh Ron: sorry Pamela: that sounds much better Bob - care to trade? BobS: heard of ptsnoop, didn't know it was a BAD thingy BobS: nope done ATE the things Pamela: well, darn Ron: I had yesterday's warmed up pizza and part of Mother's warmed up stir fry that we brough home in a doggy bag BobS: how's mum doing???????? Pamela: left over leftovers? George: the first thing my compter was thrown into suspend even though i disabled it Ron: she's been better, thanks, Bob. A bit of shortness of breath these days. Have a Doc appointment Fri Pamela: Rin, have you heard back from your friend since we spoke? BobS: that's good Ron: she's a survivor of tripple bypass since 1987....but endurance these days can be a problem Princess: nope he was paged....he's on the job Princess: i'll send him an email Pamela: y'know, I'm really glad I don't have his job Princess: so am i George: second virusscan turned up W32/Elkern.c virus Pamela: I put in a 10 hour day and I'm pooped. Princess: especially now rich-c: what wre you doing that let the hacker in, George? Princess: he barely gets his w/e's Princess: no free time really rich-c: aha - you havent been keeping your antivirus up to date, then Princess: privacy out the window Ron: free time, what's that? Pamela: BTW the Liberal campaign office going in next to our office is for George Smitherman - ever heard of him? Princess: nope Princess: makes me wanna do some research perhaps Pamela: free time is that time in which you don't have anything to do Ron - most people use it to sleep George: who is Princess? Pamela: that's Erin, George rich-c: never mind, you'll end up needing the NDP guy anyway, Pam George: ok Princess: hi George Pamela: why Dad? Ron: On another topic Princess: no Ndippers rich-c: public power - it's the wedge issue Ron: Somebody gave me today a Toshiba T3200SX laptop Ron: 386/20 with all of 4 meg or RAM and 40 meg hard drive rich-c: sorry, Rin, McGinty has waffled once too often Pamela: will depend on who's running in our riding - I want someone who will work on the issues that concern me George: i don't think anyone missed me rich-c: if keeping Hydro public doesnt concern you, what does? Pamela: George, are you feeling sorry for yourself? BobS: won't run 95 then em thinks BobS: OR it will be RREAL clsoe Ron: nope... Win 3.1.1 George: hell no BobS: close Ron: damn thing is built like a tank Pamela: how about the desparate need for improved public transportation, and health care? BobS: is it a laptop OR a portable? Ron: wouldn't have wanted to lug it very far rich-c: hey, if we hadnt missed you we wouldnt have asked where you'd been Pamela: brb, my fingers are ready for pluckin
moved to room Meeting Place Ron: Luggab.le Ron: It's a laptop, but you'd have to have one heck of a lap BobS: had one like that and sold it to a guya t Winnepeg university Ron: aha Ron: amber screen? rich-c: actually it would be University of Manitoba in Winnipeg BobS: sounds about right rich-c: or green screen? BobS: darn thing cost about $25 us to send and then he claimed the screen got broken Ron: Actually, Winnipeg is a city surrounded by an unpopulated expance of nothing known as Manitoba Ron: expanse
changed username to Judy BobS: I figured he was full of BS, but made a deal witrh him.....basically he got it for nuthing and paid the shipping Ron: aw rich-c: I know, that's where my ancestors settled out at the end of steel in 1885 BobS: red screen George: Hi Judy rich-c: hi Judy, joining us now I see Ron: yeah, I wouldn't call it amber actually, It's redder than that Judy: hi, everyone how is all? Ron: Anyway, it'll probably show up at ADAMCON just as a conversation piece Ron: Hi Judy Pamela: hi Judy. Someone pass the plum sauce rich-c: I shudder to think at the language it might inspire... Ron: we shall see Pamela: at least you won't have to lug it very far Ron : ) George: can you change the background screen color in dos? rich-c: George, I want to work further on your crash Princess: hey Pam rich-c: how would you have got the virus? did you open an email attachment? Pamela: ya? Judy: are we having a dinner? Princess: what time does Russell have to be off for work on Sat? Ron: what at 9:30 at night? George: i reformatted all HDD Pamela: huh? do you mean leave for work or get home? Pamela: and yes Judy, I am eating chicken fingers - bob refused to share his stuffed pork chops Princess: leave rich-c: well, there are ways to deal with teh virus without reformatting, but that's not relevant right now BobS: dont' chew TOO far down and get YOUR fingers Pam rich-c: I just want to know how you got infected in the first place Pamela: before you arrive - figure I'll drop him at the station, then go and do a couple of errands, then come meet you at Wilson Judy: they were gone Pamela: am using a fork Bob Pamela: just to avoid that Ron: Rich...... whilst we're on the topic, what virus program are ya using? George: no i don't think unformat will help now Princess: well I'm just thinking maybe we can do dinner on Sat...as per our discussion earlier rich-c: AVG oin teh laptop and AntiVir on the desktop BobS: dat's a velly gUt thing me lady Ron: ok....that's the one I downloaded for my customer. It runs on Win 95, (when others don't) and it seems like quite a nice package Pamela: now i'm lost - what are you talking about? George: i have antivir AVG on now Ron: and certainly, the price is right rich-c: no, once you've formatted, you might as well forget it - just that you didnt have to Princess: well you said my Aunt and Uncle might want to see me Pamela: they might - you could ask them : ) Ron: first time I've used it rich-c: yes, I am happy with both AVG and Anti-Vir Pamela: Hey Dad, how would Mom feel about feeding her favourite daughter and her favourite niece on Saturday evening? Princess: hey Uncle Richard, what do you think about Pam and I coming over for dinner on Saturday evening? George: Zoo Tycoon bogs my computer down rich-c: the only downside is that the updates tend to be very cumbersome to download rich-c: this Saturday? Pamela: yup Ron: ok...that's a good thing to know. I'll probably get a question. rich-c: I'll ask - what time did you have in mind? Ron: Maybe I should use it myself on something around here just to get used to it Pamela: normal dinner time, I guess Princess: after 4 rich-c: your mama says she can do that Princess: Hey Pam r u able to sign on to MSN while here? Marie wants to say hi Pamela: I think so - give me a minute. Everyone else, brb rich-c: yes, I had Norton but they wanted me to pay a subscription Ron: right rich-c: when I took off Norton AVG for some reason wouldnt install so I put in AntiVir Ron: most of the users I'm involved with around here have Win 95, and have been more or less left behind by Norton and McAfee Ron: although I do have Norton's version 5 on a CD rich-c: both AVG and AntiVir have some claim from benchmark tests to outperform Norton and McAfee Ron: interesting Ron: tell me more about the update process. You say it's cumbersome? rich-c: first - you know about oldversion.com? Ron: ummm no.... Ron: ?? rich-c: re cumbersome: just that they update both database and engine, and it seems to run about three megs a round Ron: I see. rich-c: oldversion.com has old (like, Win3.1, Win 95) versions of programs only available new for more recent OSs Ron: thank you Ron: that sounds useful rich-c: I'll bet you havent even tried pricelessware.org George: i thougt AVG was part of AnitVir Ron: people come to me after the local tech shops have stopped laughing rich-c: no, George, though they are both German companies George: well my antivir has AVg rich-c: AV is the abbreviation for Anti-Virus so both companies use it rich-c: but if you got it from Grisoft.com it's AVG George: i have the umbrella it also has the guard rich-c: but the one you get from free-av.com calls its engine AVGuard - confused enough yet? rich-c: the brolly is Anti-Vir George: whatever? rich-c: right click on it, click on help, when that comes up click on about - it's all there George: not while i'm online rich-c: anyway if you had it up to date and running that virus would not have got to you rich-c: why not? I just did so. Windows will multitask that far without messing up the chat applet rich-c: Ron, if it's ever a question, I have a fine collection of freeware sites and many have offerings even back to 3.1 George: it's always updated i only had it active when the the computer was idle so it wouldn't be strained for resources rich-c: even on that antique computer of yours AntiVir shouldnt overuse the resources Ron: good Rich. getting to the point where I hate paying the annual company software tax...... prefer freeware wherever I can get it George: with aol it does Ron: Of course with Linux, I do not have that problem George: georgia tech did have virus trouble with linux Ron: oh it's been known to happen rich-c: since I'm still too lazy to master Linux I get all my freebies in Win98 - you would not believe how many Ron: Oh yes, I know George: i found out the hard way George: i'm running Valhalla Ron: I have help with Linux Ron: for that they made me President of the Club Ron: my job is to get people together, then pick their minds Princess: Well everyone just popped back to say g'night and Ciao Ron: Ciao Princess. Be wild BobS: ok Erin.........sleep tight Pamela: we're (I'm?) back Princess: thanks Bob Princess: and you can expect nothing less Ron Pamela: Rin, I'm going over right now to send that number - stay on till you get it rich-c: OK Rin, see you Sat afternoon Ron: :)\ George: like using zapping Princess: ok Uncle Richard, G'night Princess: ok pammie George: nite Ron George: nite Princess Ron: One thing about this new luggable Princess: nitey nite George Ron: It has a carrying case that's worth more to me than the computer itself Ron: sturdy piece of work Pamela: Erin, I just sent it - should come through anytime rich-c: George, I just checked my cpu usage on AntiVir - it uses less than 3/10 of 1%
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changed username to Firestone Pamela: dunno, that 's why I asked Princess: oh Princess: ok rich-c: hello Firestone, whoever you may be - welcome Princess: ok got the email George: i think i use aol too much Pamela: good. Call me tomorrow night Firestone: Guess who I am? Princess: okie dokie Pamela: clues, please rich-c: if you use it at all it's too much
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changed username to Meeka Firestone: Too many PC's rich-c: hi Meeka
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Firestone changed username to Guy B. George: ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? BobS: HEY, did Doug get any parts for Tulip city yet??? Ron: in one of his many disguises Pamela: Hi, Guy Guy B.: Fooled you Rich. Pamela: why Firestone? Meeka: no BobS: ok BobS: BONA Guy B.: The newest Bachelor. Andrew Firestone George: Hi Guy BobS: you kidder you Pamela: well that helps - I don't watch it! rich-c: I don't get the allusion George: no Butt Ron: is where the rubber hits the road Pamela: ya gotta watch tv Dad Meeka: he is on his way, you can talk to him in a sec :) Guy B.: The guy is a heir to the tire fortune. rich-c: troubles enough I got already, why should I watch tv? Guy B.: Well, how is everyone tonight? Pamela: oh him - gotcha Ron: overweight and hungry Guy. How about you rich-c: actually the Firestone family is long gone from tires - they build rvs now George: try Splenda Guy B.: Overweight? I'm still trying to get that down. This week is my last week of overtime for now. Ron: yeah, right Ron: anyway....good people, I must take my leave of this fine and erudite group Guy B.: Well, the Firestone family is now in the wine business. BobS: well be good ronald Ron: Thank God we don't get as much government as we pay for Guy B.: Leaving already Ron? We'll see you next week then. BobS: and be safe out there int he dark Pamela: you just missed Erin, Guy - I was just telling her that life's pretty good - I have two consecutive vacation days, a date with a guy from Japan and just moved farther from my boss - now if I could just win a lottery . . . Ron: niters all George: wine in tires? NOT Pamela: must you leave Ron? rich-c: OK Ron, take it easy, see you Sat or next week Guy B.: How is she Pam? Pamela: she's doing alright - will be here Sat. morning Ron: 'fraid so.....another computer class/workshop/thingie Ron: and I'm supposed to be an expert Pamela: this is me, pouting. Well if you must then you must. Go not gently . . .
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) Ron: gently as the wafting breeze in the dead of night, my dear
(Guy B. throws a hot potato at BobS.) Pamela: ahh, caffeine Ron: bye Pamela: nite
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changed username to Scott rich-c: make salad, Pam, goes great with chicken fingers Pamela: where were you when I was eating lonely chicken fingers, Guy? rich-c: hello Scott! Scott: Hello Pamela: hi Scott rich-c: Ron goes out, Scott comes in Scott: Late, but made it. Guy B.: Hi Scott. How's school coming? Scott: Has Dan B stopped by? George: i can't even take my green tea Meeka: hello BobS: hi Scott Guy B.: Chicken Fingers? Where at Pam? BobS: NOPE rich-c: nope, havent seen him tonight Scott: Have you heard anything new w/Iraq? Pamela: all gone, Guy - they were dinner. They're not stuffed pork chops, but oh well. Scott: Just Curious rich-c: he's been in and out a bit, has some illness, won't see a doctor George: they're gone now BobS: Iraq= sand, sand, sand Guy B.: Well, mine was half a peppercorn burger from TGI Friday's. Along with a baked potato which I gave Abby the skin. She loves them. Pamela: that's not new, Bob rich-c: the Iraquis refuse to roll over and die, but they won't last long Pamela: oh, that sounds good too. We only get Friday's when we're in the States. Pamela: So about once every two or three years George: i said it would happen Guy B.: Then we should make a date when you're here then. Pamela: you're on, sir Scott: I've never seen so much news coverage and received so little information. Scott: It's very distracting. Pamela: watching CNN, are you Scott? rich-c: try the Canadian media, Scott - in all seriousness they do well Scott: A little of everything Scott: Actually, I have been watching Canadian news. Scott: The CBC, I believe rich-c: I am regularly in an American forum and half teh discussion point to urls of articles in Canaidna papers Guy B.: Especially when you're expecting the TV show you want to watch. Only to find the entire hour has been devoted to Iraq. Scott: It's on CSPAN George: our millitary is involved in too much disinformation rich-c: if you can get theBBC news it is usually the best of all Scott: Yes, I get that too. Scott: They have a fantastic website too. George: it's all unbelievable rich-c: you can see if the english.aljazeera.net site is up for teh Islamic viewpoint Pamela: problem is George, if you tell the Americans watching CNN exactly what's happening, the Iraqis watching get the info too Scott: I went to their website when I was doing research into genetics. Scott: I tried to visit al-jazeera, but it was down. Scott: Too many hacker attacks, I've heard. rich-c: we are getting good coverage in the Toronto Star but you need to know which columnists to look at when Scott: They just launched an English version of their site. George: so was iraqi tv Scott: I'd be interested to get their point of view. rich-c: seems they have the news and have it first, and tend to be a lot less biassed than you'd expect Scott: Be right back... George: read the national inquirer Pamela: no, they're biased : ) rich-c: they are biased, just edited to attract the nut cases rich-c: sorry, arent Pamela: they manage to be both George: what better foor a nut? Pamela: brb Meeka: ok rich-c: since I never see anything except the front page at the supermarket I cant tell whats inside rich-c: but then the front page tells anyone all they need to know as to what it's about Judy: hello, Meeka, are we on for tomorrow night? Meeka: yup :)) George: you missed the best parts Judy: what time is good for you? Meeka: 6-6:30 ?? George: Hi Meeka Meeka: hello Pamela: I hope that's p.m. Judy rich-c: anyway, Scott, you may want to check out thestar.com, maybe also globeandmail.ca Meeka: lol@Pam Meeka: yes, it is Judy: can you make it any early, like 5:30, less busy? Pamela: whew, I feel better Pamela: especially since I can sleep in tomorrow - woohoo rich-c: at the Star, columnists worth looking at are Richard Gwyn, Gwynne Dyer, Haroon Siddiqui Judy: are going out to dinner Pamela: that's so nice Pamela: where? Meeka: Doug says as long as I call him so he leaves on time, thats ok too George: when you update antivir do they keep a database for older viruses? Judy: Sam's Joint, they have roll back pricing rich-c: yes, George, in effect each update is all the old plus the latest added in Judy: ok lets plan on that Meeka: ok Pamela: there are restaurants now too? Good lord, teh man is taking over rich-c: that's how they all do it, George - AVG, AntiVir, Norton, McAfee George: good stoned crops up Judy: no, they do that every year in March and Noverber Meeka: lol, its not related to Sams club and walmart Pam Pamela: I thought it was a good guess : ) rich-c: yes, I'm getting about four emails a week with one of the Klez viruses rich-c: I use Mailwasher so don't even download them, just delete them from the mailbox Pamela: since you didn't show up on my doorstep last weekend, i guess Mandy's move went okay? Meeka: thats THIS weekend Pamela: oh Meeka: the move I mean Pamela: sorry Judy: see hasn't moved yet, this coming week-end George: i'm not opening many email anymore rich-c: in fact I can recognize the virus ones so dont even need teh AntiVirus to tell me Judy: I do think I am going to miss little Ryan rich-c: no danger in opening email, just dont open suspicious attachments Pamela: hark, I hear a Grandma talking Judy: the kisses before bed and first thing in the morning Judy: ok, I confess Pamela: the pitter patter of little feet . . . rich-c: long as you have AntiVir up to dte and running you have really nothing to fear Judy: poor little guy got bit again in daycare today Judy: that too, Pam Pamela: that poor child just doesn't get any breaks, does he? Judy: no, he doesn't Pamela: bit by whom? rich-c: well, he drew a pretty fair set of grandparents, Pam, and that counts for a lot Scott: Sorry, I've gotten myself sucked into something Judy: one of the little boys in daycare Scott: Will be back shortly BobS: some warmonger at daycar4e Pamela: obviously one who doesn't have Slopsema in his blood Judy: he can even tell the kids name
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changed username to DougS Judy: oh, he has bit in his little life also, he did it to his cousin Michael Guy B.: Hi Doug] Meeka: hi dear :) rich-c: hi Doug, you havent been on for a while DougS: work is BUSY Pamela: I hope someone reported the kid and Ryan got thoroughly washed Pamela: Hi, Doug BobS: yea he says Joey bit hime and when asked about his eye scratches, he says conner did that Judy: hi, Doug DougS: think i need to put in vacation for convention SOON :) Judy: yes, please do BobS: ANd decide on flights and times too rich-c: well, have at it, Doug, we need you to keep things going! rich-c: how are you doing on finding flights, Bob? rich-c: I gather you want to fly to Seattle and rent a car to enjoy the drive BobS: got flights from GR to SEATTLE for $301 US Judy: didn't break the skin, so don't have to worry but Mandy was mad because they didn't write a report on it BobS: IF still available. should be Pamela: it sounds like Mandy needs to find another daycare for him Pamela: is that one way Bob? BobS: all daycare's got the biters rich-c: gather flying direct to Comox does not appeal to you BobS: nope both ways Meeka: but it is easy cuz its right next to her work Judy: they are so good to him there most of the time, he sometimes spends the day in the infant room because he likes the helpers better there DougS: flying into comox is much more expensive, and we were talking about checking out some sights in seattle. rich-c: I assume you get a feeder flight to OHare and the Seattle flight from there Judy: they really are good to him rich-c: what routing were you looking at for teh flight to Comox? BobS: don't member if we flew into Chicago or not BobS: think we bypassed it Pamela: I know good daycares are hard to find, and getting into them can be a challenge Judy: and he can't change both homes and daycare, would not be good for him BobS: or it was into Ch midway rich-c: you mean Grand Rapids has flights to anywhre but Chicago and Detroit? ;-) Pamela: too tru BobS: si senor rich-c: be curious to know what (GR-CHI) to Calgary = Westjet Calgary-Comox might come out to Pamela: this is ridiculous, but I'm falling asleep. Must be all the exercise I got earlier Meeka: lol rich-c: well, time is getting on, Pam BobS: well look it up with CanadAir Pamela: i'm moving offices and finished packing the last of my stuff at 6:25 this evening Judy: what did you do, Pam? rich-c: oh, Air Canada to Comox is likely to be hopeless Judy: I was washing windows and mini blinds today Pamela: the guys moving me are going to get a laugh - I left Post-Its everywhere rich-c: like looking at United when Siouthwest flies the route BobS: actually, we coudl go west for 99 bucks but coming back was 249 using southweat BobS: crazy rich-c: you'd have to find a US carrier to Calgary then pick up the Hamilton-Comox flight when it stops there rich-c: we have some great prices - till you add in teh security and fuel and navigational and airport improvement surcharges, and taxes Pamela: that's it for me I think folks - I don't want to snore in your ears Meeka: ok, nighty night Pam rich-c: OK Pam, see you for dinner of Saturday - don't try to phone, I'll likely be on chat George: i need to go tend to my crohn's Judy: nite Pam, sweet dreams DougS: night pam Pamela: Dad, I'm talking to Rin tomorrow evening - will try to call afterwards and firm things up. rich-c: OK George, come back Saturday and we'll discuss how to deal with viruses Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to head off. Working this Saturday. But, I'm off overtime after this week. George: nite all Pamela: Goodnight to all - will bring news of James next week rich-c: nite George and Guy rich-c: nite Pam Judy: nite, Guy Pamela: Nite Dad - tell Mom thanks too BobS: nite Pammy DougS: night george and guy BobS: nite geo rich-c: will do, daughter
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Guy B. left chat session BobS: bye Guy Judy: night George Pamela: poof
Pamela left chat session BobS: shees like the plague aroudn here Meeka: yup rich-c: yes. Scott's off looking at something else, otherwise all we have is Slopsemas DougS: i can leave if that makes you feel less surrounded :) rich-c: as you may have noticed, Doug, I can hold my own at the keyboard anytime BobS: and i am jumping off to bid on a gps and check some flights Judy: we don't bite rich-c: after all, I don't let a little thing like total ignorance stop me BobS: see ya next time around all Meeka: night rich-c: nite Bob, see you rich-c: actually I have another online diversion now - as if I needed more Judy: I will be going soon also, I am fading fast and I have to rest up for tomorrow busy day
BobS left chat session Meeka: lol, ya, boys to atch rich-c: Autoweek magazine has a chat/bulletin board with various sections of interest rich-c: OK Judy, take it easy, see you next week Judy: talk to you next week, Rich and see you two tomorrow, bye
Judy left chat session rich-c: I find I am spending rather more hours a day on it than is prudent Meeka: ok, bye bye Scott: Almost everyone gone. Scott: Oh no! rich-c: ah, you're back, Scott Meeka: lol, they dropping like flys rich-c: yes, this tends to fold up around 11 Scott: Rich - Can't remember where I read this, but I thought I heard that Canada may also send troops. DougS: think i need to head out too. got a meeting tomorrow morning that may be really boring. need the sleep now so i don't fall asleep then. rich-c: too many have to get up in the morning, then there's us old folks need our shuteye Scott: But it's a big maybe. Meeka: ya, im going too Scott: And I don't remember where in the heck I read it.
DougS left chat session Scott: It's probably bogus.
Meeka left chat session rich-c: Meeka, good night then - take care rich-c: Scott, it is and it isn't Scott: Is and isn't? Scott: Oh now I remember. Scott: It wasn't that they may send troops. rich-c: Canada is in fact the third largest contributor after US and UK, but officially is not participating Scott: Canada is supporting the war in Afghanistan and are providing intelligence Scott: And strangely so is France. rich-c: but - they have not pulled out technical officers who wre with the US forces on normal exchange, so are running a chunk of CENTCOM Scott: And although their not officially on board, they are providing support. rich-c: also they continue to lead from their own three ships the six-nation, 20-ship anti-terrorist patrol in the southern part of teh Gulf rich-c: of course, they cant help it if this guards the US forces too rich-c: and such forces as we can spare are committed to Afghanistan - even if this releases equal US forces for Iraq Scott: Hmmm rich-c: but you are right - Canada thinks the war is wrong and will not be seen taking part Scott: That's too bad. This will be a very good thing for the Iraqi people Scott: For the first time, they will have a chance at a normal life. Scott: Like the Afghanis. rich-c: but unofficially we see no reason to make life difficult for someone giving Saddam what he deserves Scott: Sounds like we did hit him the first night Scott: But didn't take him out. rich-c: so far, the Afghans are back to normal - ducking while the warlords duke it out Scott: That is only going to make him more angry rich-c: it may get better if the US ever comes through with the promised aid, but so far, no good Scott: Yes, there's still problems with the warlords, but they are able to educate themselves Scott: What about the pledges from the rest of the world? Scott: Didn't the UN as a whole offer some huge sum? rich-c: not really, the allied forces hold the Kandahar area but the rest is backsliding to Taliban standards Scott: US is doing their part Scott: Do you thing Osama is alive? rich-c: apparently the US has yet to allocate a single penny for Afghan reconstruction' Scott: That's not what I've been reading. rich-c: I didnt believe that when I read it but I've seen it in several sources rich-c: Osama? Yes, at least the AUAS Army says they're chasing someone up there in the hills Scott: Anyways, on to Coleco ADAM stuff... rich-c: press on... Scott: I will be receiving plastic shells casings this week rich-c: james will be here tomorrow, I have the copies of Mel Ostler's books for him Scott: To manufacture Daniel's cartridges. rich-c: Daniel should be pleased about that Scott: The game itself has been done for awhile. rich-c: yes, so I gather Scott: And Mike is putting together the boxes. rich-c: are the costs remotely in line? Scott: We will be manufacturing about 50. Scott: Well, the plastic is more expensive because we had to use old cartridges. Scott: It's like 2.50 per casing. Scott: the board assembly and chips are somewhere around $4 rich-c: yes, I gather that old ones would bring about that Scott: What's costing alot are the boxes. Scott: They're like $10 a piece Scott: They're handmade and supposedly look gorgeous. rich-c: I'm not a fan of spending more on the packaging than the product - but I am not of the gaming generation Scott: But it really pushes up the cost. Scott: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Scott: I would prefer Blockbuster cases rich-c: it sells or it doesnt - we shall se Scott: Like the ones they used for Super Nintendo/Genesis. Scott: Those work fine. Scott: All 50 will be gone very quickly. rich-c: me. I'd be happy if I could dump my lot of miscellaneous joystacks and strange cartridge games and stuff Scott: If you have excess cartridges, we could use them for cartridge releases. rich-c: got a whole assorted bunch of weirdo joysticks, some of which work Scott: Joysticks - Coleco joysticks? rich-c: no, my cartridges are all alive - if I find any dead ones I'll let you offer rich-c: only enough Coleco joysticks to go with my Adams, I'm afraid Scott: I should put some advertising out there so we can collect non working ColecoVision cartridges. rich-c: do you know the little light Amiga joysticks for the Adam? I have a whole bunch of those Scott: There's gotta be tons out there that just get thrown away. rich-c: they date back to when Amiga made games, not computers and before Commodore bought them Scott: Didn't know Amiga joysticks worked for ADAM. Scott: Interesting. rich-c: these were built for use with Colecovision/Adam Scott: Hmm rich-c: they are much more sensitive but I don't like the fire buttons Scott: I would say, if you would like a copy of Dan's game, get one when they first come out. rich-c: they are shaped like a "lazy L" with the longer upright holding the number pad Scott: No telling if we'll ever do a second run. Scott: I believe due to this particular game, we won't Scott: Mike's got two other games from Marcel. Scott: One is done. rich-c: I am not a game player or collector in any meaningful sense Scott: The other -- who knows??? Scott: Marcel is still recovering from his accident, it seems. Scott: BRB rich-c: well, if someone ends up with a particular need - super action controller, or something - I can oblige Scott: Ok Scott: If you could make a sequel to any Coleco game, what would it be? rich-c: and I have some regular Coleco game carts of course, but I think they're listed on your website Scott: This is a question I would like to get feedback from the ADAMCon attendees rich-c: as a non-player, I couldn't care less Scott: Since new games are and will be coming out, it would be good to give the game designers some feedback rich-c: on the DOSbox I play Free Cell and Mini-golf and that's it rich-c: Frances sometimes plays Tetris and liked Video Hustler Scott: Free Cell doesn't exist for Coleco Scott: But hardly anyone would want to pay for it Scott: Since it's free with LInux Scott: Linux rich-c: it's free in Windows, too, and there are more elaborate free variations all over the web Scott: There was a halfway decent Mini-golf game for the ADAM Scott: I remember playing it quite a bit. Scott: Well, Rich, I should let you go Scott: It's 11:30 your time rich-c: well, since I don't care for games I don't understand them rich-c: you noticed! yes, I do need to fold up Scott: I tried to stop by last Saturday at 2 pm Scott: But too late. Scott: You met here, right? rich-c: I was there, if not on the tick, awful soon after - that's 2 our time rich-c: yes, I think we wre on till about 4 p.m. Scott: I must have arrived at 4 pm your time rich-c: pretty well just Ron and I Scott: Well, I will try to join you Sat Scott: See ya! rich-c: we closed down within minutes either side of 4 p.m.
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