james: keeping the connection alive james: keeping it alive james: anyone here? james: hello?
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changed username to rich-c james: welcome rich-c: well hello - you're early james: was here a few minutes ago rich-c: if I'd known you were here I'd have come sooner james: case tends to get me up in the mornings these days james: so i usually check on early rich-c: ah, yes - he's gettin into that age bracket now, isn't he? james: oh yeah james: so i've been on a much earlier cycle since having come back from canada rich-c: don't worry, another dozen years and you wont be able to get him up before noon ;-]
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changed username to james&case rich-c: aha, he has come in to say hello himself now james&case: someone closed my chat window james&case: care to guess who? james&case: lol rich-c: well, I'll send him a message james&case: hhn b hjmm james&case: mvcvcbvgbv bbv bv rich-c: cn nowjioih noijowye457 haooa;aop[ufv aqpp[d;cx james&case: lo l rich-c: I'm sure case can translate for you :-} rich-c: by the way, we are back down to zero again - just what I needed james&case: i figure by age 3 he'll have his own computer or five and by 10 he'll know more than i do james&case: ouch rich-c: yes, that's about how it goes with the new generation james&case: he likes to push and pull my keyboard trya james&case: nnbbb rich-c: there is a rumour we may see spring sometime, but when is uncertain james&case: lol. perhaps in june sometime? rich-c: one might hope, but these days teh certainty seems less and less rich-c: let's hear it for global warming! james&case: it's plenty warm here already rich-c: care to ship us a bit over here? bet your folks would appreciate a bit too james&case: case's first computer will be an adam rich-c: I should ruddy well hope so - got to bring him up right!!! james&case: no doubt james&case: speaking of which, my adam has some bit-rot going on in the rom i think rich-c: oh, now this is interesting - my chat interface is subtly different today james&case: not surprising after 20 years. james&case: how so? rich-c: doesnt matter, it's reasonably easily replaceable james&case: the rom or the adam? rich-c: I downloaded the latest version of the Java Runtime Environment and it seems to work slightly differently james&case: interesting rich-c: both rich-c: typeface is different, cursor slightly heavier james&case: i'll have to open it up again and see if the current rom is socketed or if i'll have to desolder it james&case: which has given me an idea rich-c: is it the OS7 or Smartwriter ROM (not that I'd know teh difference) james&case: that's going? i'm not sure james&case: when i turn it on in i get crud on the screen, a flaky cursor at times etc rich-c: if I recall there are three ROM chips in there, the )S7 and two Smartwriter james&case: then if i boot smartlogo or whatever it's not working right james&case: so i don't think it's just smartwriter rich-c: I assume you have checked for loose chips; have you checked for corrosion? james&case: i haven't checked for anything yet james&case: i have to open it up and take a look still james&case: it could be a chip-crawl issue. i get quite the fluctuation in temperature in that room rich-c: a flaky screen can also come from a dying power supply if I recall james&case: it's a pc power supply james&case: i could always check that too
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: I'd be inclined to look for corrosion, maybe causing a short or ground on a chip james&case: i think i will check that out
changed username to George rich-c: hello George, you're late james&case: i wouldn't mind having an extra console around, "just in case" james&case: hi george rich-c: well your problem is that it costs so damn much to ship the things to Japan james&case: getting someone to send me just the console via surface shipping wouldn't be too bad. i can do without all the extra ballast George: Hi Rich, James&Co. james&case: like the dumbwriter printer, extra controllers etc james&case: how are you, george? rich-c: yes but now Canada Post also has that silly-ass minimum weight for volume rule George: busy james&case: minimum? rich-c: you calculate teh size of teh parcel, they charge for a minimum density or actual weight, whichever is more james&case: yay. rich-c: there's a lot of air in a console and little weight, especially with the tape drive out james&case: i could always bring one back the next time i'm in ottawa. won't be setting foot in t.o for awhile George: i'm still eating ham james&case: hmm.. i'm hungry now that you mention it :D rich-c: well unless you're playing tourist guide, you have no cause to come to Toronto james&case: we'll have to see how this sars pandemic plays out. it will affect whether or not i do a trip next year. rich-c: your Easter dinner has lasted a bit, has it, George? George: yes james&case: my friend's fiancee works at a travel agency and they've had to lay off one person and cut back everyone else's hours rich-c: I certainly do hope that we have the SARS business over with a lot sooner than that George: so have the Easter eggs james&case: as do i rich-c: I was supposed to have an appointment at Sunnybrook today but they cancelled for teh second time james&case: i usually start planning in july or august. hopefully by then things will have improved james&case: sunnybrook? is that a medical centre? rich-c: yes, that's one of teh major hospitals and my nearest George: travel to Canada Banned james&case: i think part of the problem is selfish idiots who ignore quarantine requests/orders rich-c: I have to see a specialist about my hip, getting a joint replacement operation james&case: that doesn't sound like fun at all rich-c: from all my friends and acquaintances who've had it done, it's more fun than living with an arthritic hip rich-c: and George, it's only travel to China that is banned james&case: true, the alternative is likely worse rich-c: except for that bunch of ignorant rednecks at Wal-Mart, but what would they know about geography? james&case: i wouldn't be going to china, hong kong or anywhere near there. lol. the irony. rich-c: I also have to see a urologist but right now they wont even set up an appointment rich-c: I am not underestimating the seriousness on teh local scene, trust me George: You'll be saying to yourself 'What did I do to myself? ' after the operation james&case: i'm trying to remember where i read it, but somewhere, they're using infrared scanners at airports to see if people have a fever rich-c: yes, China is doing that - but they've had the equipment in place for some time rich-c: I suspect they were looking before SARS and for more than fevers james&case: lol. that's my guess
moved to room Meeting Place james&case: not a good year for the travel industry at all rich-c: and as for your comment, George, yes, any operation has risk
changed username to BobS rich-c: but everyone I know who's had this one says it is well worth it BobS: howdy mates james&case: g'day pardner George: as I know rich-c: well, welcome, Robert George: Hi BOb BobS: don't know how long this can hold up.......having trouble with isp all day BobS: 'like they go on break every few minutes rich-c: really? what's wrong with netzero now? james&case: my access is bog slow, but it's very reliable. i'll give them that. George: you get what you pay for BobS: not netzero. was about to use it.....got a local phone co George: and then some BobS: ya'll got to keep up with change Richard rich-c: actually I've been having minor problems with Tamco, too - very unusual james&case: like driving a car at 20kph. hard to crash but even if you do, you probably just bump and move along. BobS: had altelco.com for about 2 yrs here rich-c: really? I can't recall your ever mentioning it BobS: connected with a 56k modem....first @ 9600, then 14000, then @ 24,0000 and now at 26,400 and that is all I can get rich-c: and your email address is still with netzero, isnt it? BobS: and then I go somewhere and jsut stop George: I just keep going with AOL since 1996 rich-c: my program insists I'm getting 45333 but it's all a lie BobS: oh yea got the free ones at netzero, keep the altelco one just for important stuff BobS: jsut stopped ag again BobS: AOL is EXPENSIVE and I hate it BobS: yucky, i sick......... rich-c: I've been getting either problems getting on or unexpected drops rich-c: I know so many customer have converted to ADSL that he's had to cut back on the dialup lines, not enough trade to pay for them BobS: this shit keeps up and I will dump them and get a natinal one for $10 George: Juno? james&case: i won't tell you all what i pay for access BobS: but that takes bucks BobS: NO Highstream.com BobS: uses the natural IE 5 and Outlook for mail rich-c: but they send around a guy with gun and mask to collect the monthly fee, right? rich-c: like AOL? BobS: works great too, had dad on it, but stinking AOL kept redirecting his dial properties so he couldn't use it George: MSN? BobS: every time he used his old aol account, they screwed up his highstram connection George: I use both rich-c: and you couldnt get him to dump AOL? George: DSL and dialup BobS: nope........he is NOT computer literate BobS: and scared to death of change rich-c: even so, you are failing in your filial duty, leaving him at teh mercy of those pirates George: i'm computer screwed BobS: I would change him IF I could.......... BobS: but he has mind of his own rich-c: you need to have a long serious talk with him - I'm likely about his age, tell him I said so ;-] james&case: oi h hhhhh hjhnnm George: HUH/ rich-c: get him to join us here one night and we'll all have a go at him james&case: that was case rich-c: except George, of course, but he's beyond hope 8=] james&case: his spelling isn't so great BobS: oh yea, that will wrok.........:-) George: oh thanks rich-c: actually, sometimes us old farts will listen to other old farts rich-c: when you dump AOL, George, I'll withdraw the comment ;-] George: fools rush in where others fear to tread rich-c: yes, George, the second mouse gets the cheese BobS: i got a free aol for traveling to florida.......when i got back and started using my reg ISP, i tried aol again and it screwed up the dialup...DAT is how I iknows the stinking mess they make
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changed username to Judy rich-c: hi Judy, come to join the old man? George: get thee behind me and ye shall get some cheese too Judy: hi, yes just got home rich-c: Judy, Pam has to get her haircut tonight, will be here late if at all rich-c: she said ask you to send her an email about the games George: Hi Judy rich-c: anyway Bob, are you not using Zone Alarm? james&case: someone is fussy. going to see if he's sleepy. i'll be back rich-c: right james BobS: nope, jused it for awhile, but it kept bugging me so I dumped it rich-c: oh, that's why AOL could get in and tamper with your settings, then rich-c: there are a couple of other good free firewalls as well BobS: my answer to keep virus' away. delete anything I don't recognise and that way I don't open most of the mail BobS: it happened on kicking off aol to connect rich-c: AOL don't do it with a virus, they do it with a program on their website BobS: got a neat freebie mail porgram called MAILWASHER BobS: works sslick and it will bounce and blacklist emails you select Judy: that will work out I am talking to a friend on instant mess. now BobS: anyway dumped aol and their shit service rich-c: you need internet organizer pro, and a firewall to stop tampering BobS: too expensive and too restrictive rich-c: try going to pricelessware.org where everything is teh best on the net and FREE George: ctrl+a and delete BobS: I got the Highstream one off that list of cheap ISP's you gave me Rich rich-c: no nags, no trials, no spyware, good evaluations, well organized, fast downloads rich-c: I've had Mailwasher for months - you have to watch it very carefully BobS: was poking around their today alittle rich-c: if you let it use the spamcop "database" that just deletes everything as spam BobS: for why?????? rich-c: the good part of mailwasher is after you've cheked it you can delete and bounce it without downloading rich-c: to me spamcop is a fraud - it just calls everything spam rich-c: then it creates a database of all the places where you've told it the message is friendly rich-c: after which any spammer who uses aol or yahoo or anyone else you get legitimate mail from, gets a free pass George: use ADAM for email james&case: i've read very little that's good about spamcop rich-c: if only we could, George, it would be much better james&case: spamassasin is very nice though rich-c: james, do you subscribe to langalist yet? james&case: yeah, a long time ago rich-c: well, Fred has had a number of srticles lately on spamcop and the others George: AOL is suing spammers james&case: thought i'd resubscribed to my current address but i haven't received it in awhile rich-c: right, George, and getting absolutely nowhere rich-c: they just move to Poland or Russia or Korea or something whre they're welcome
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changed username to Ron rich-c: by the way, james, if you take the Plus edition you can get a full archive of all the letters ever published BobS: Ronald ,,,,,,me boy George: try again Hi Ron Ron: yo! rich-c: and they are set up and indexed as a help file james&case: until there are international laws, basically zilch can be done about it from a legal perspective Ron: howz all BobS: how's da wet coast???????? BobS: thanks for the ferry info!!!!!!! Ron: wet rich-c: welcome back, Ron - still on the right side of the grass Ron: cold james&case: so current solutions have to be technologically based. make it so expensive for them that it's not viable james&case: hi ron Ron: barely Ron: stiff neck Ron: blame it on golf james&case: like telemarketing. when they call now, i just tell them to hold on a second and leave the phone as is Ron: but I will live james&case: they sit there waiting instead of making more calls rich-c: I was reading recently some folks managed to track down a spammer's personal address rich-c: they signed him up for every ctalog, newsletter, ad, etc. on the internet George: telemarketers? Ron: been getting a pile of seedy stuff here lately rich-c: a lower form of animal life, George George: don't know them BobS: LOVE IT rich-c: since I'm on the Canadian Marketing Association do not call list, phone pests are at a minimum Ron: Mac OS X now has a spam filter that is supposed to learn as it goes....what Junk is and what it it not Ron: so far, so good james&case: telemarketers. yes. these idiots who call at 10 a.m. when i'm busy with case then have the nerve to tell me it's not a sales call Ron: Here it's right around supper time james&case: then proceed to make a sales pitch indirectly by asking me something like "how many people in your family take a bath?" rich-c: I just refuse to answer teh phone between 6 and 7.30 - they are welcome to talk to the answering machine Ron: answer to that is "none, none of us have for weeks, can't you tell?" George: i almost wonder if i have a phone line rich-c: by the way, you know how you often get a ring on the phone, but no one's there? Ron: frequently rich-c: that's an automated dialler testing to find out when you are in so they can call another day james&case: yeah, i've heard of that. aren't they checking to see if someone picks up? Ron: yup rich-c: the trick is to pound the living bejayzus out of teh crosshatch key - it stops their recording Ron: Bob, did you get my answer to your question about driving times? rich-c: hit the crosshatch key six time rapis and that does it, apparently Ron: It bounced back from Judy's mail George: just turn on the fax modem BobS: yes GOT IT BobS: our ISP has been having trouble the last few days....actually got TWO messages the same from you Judy: he reads all my mail Ron: ok BobS: THANKS YOU rich-c: as long as it has a real earbusting wail, yes, that's good too, George Ron: no privacy eh? BobS: to mum also !!!!!! Ron: :) rich-c: fix him good, Judy - get a Hotmail account all for yourself rich-c: and dont tell him your username or password BobS: got all hotels reserved from Sat PM Aug 2 thru Mon Aug 11........as long as conventino hotel is recerved ;-) Ron: which it is BobS: thinking about reserving ferry space also Ron: Anybody heard from Dale lately? George: give em the fax rich-c: not a peep for weeks BobS: and maybe a latte on the waterfront for Mon, Tues and Wed eve Ron: it's not a bad idea Bob, my son does that all the time. However, on a Thursday (week after the long weekend) it might not be so bad BobS: AND bring CA money, 'cause the waterfront guy rips you off in US $$$$$ Ron: however, it will guarantee you space on the tin can
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changed username to Daniel B. Daniel B.: hello! rich-c: salut, Daniel Ron: you pay $15 bux. and you don't get it back BobS: lose your $15 reservatoin fee George: Hi DB Ron: yeah but that was Washington State Ferries wasn't it? rich-c: Daniel, are you still with that expensive ISP? BobS: heck, ya don't get it back anyway!!!!! BobS: HI Daniel Daniel B.: I found a forum in french to help me with my Java Ron: or did you take ours Judy: but then you know you are on the boat George: try traditional Chinese Ron: We just finished selling 3 brand new ferries to a Seattle junk dealer who had originally offered several times the price they eventually sold for at auction Daniel B.: I'm still with the expensive ISP.. but I can change to another ISP 6th may Ron: Thank God we don't get as much government as we pay for BobS: tok the CoHo across from.........???? to Victoria and the CA one from Schwartz Bay to Twassan on the way back Ron: ok Ron: Tsawwassen Ron: (it's only taken me 40 years to learn that) BobS: port Angeles to Victoria rich-c: Daniel, check into vif internet - www.vif.com BobS: ok, looked wrong it did Ron: (it's an old Indian name meaning - "they'll never spell this one right"
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left chat session rich-c: they are Montreal based (I think) but also in Ottawa, Sherbrokke, Quebec and Hull rich-c: the vif phone number is 1-888-321-3737 BobS: going will take the Tsawwassen to Schwartz Bay.....on way back will use Naniamo Duke Point to Tsawwassen Ron: that will get you to two nicest rides we have BobS: I can agree with that rich-c: the local number is 514-353-9988 but that is Montreal, I believe George: race riots breaking out in Philly rich-c: they offer dialup for 14.95/month with v.92 protoco; rich-c: they also offer ADSL for $30 though you'd have to buy a modem George: WHO HAS VDSL? rich-c: both rates require full year subscription payable on start BobS: was considering Comox to mainland, but that put us WAY north rich-c: which means they cant raise them on you for a year Ron: Of course, you could always take the route from Horseshoe Bay to the Sunshine Coast, (that's two ferries) then drive to Powell River and come across on the ferry from Powell River to Comox Ron: we have ways of confusing tourists BobS: got to see Victoria on mon, tues and wed BobS: got hotel Ron: I know..... was speaking in jest George: stay in USA Ron: Did y'all see the recent posts about ADAMs available? rich-c: Daniel, were you able to copy that ISP information? Daniel B.: rich: i'm looking the "vif" web page BobS: kind of hoped that we could go from comox DOWN to vancouver, but no such luck BobS: yo rich-c: OK then, if you're that well along you're on your own Ron: I'm stocked to the gunnels now. David Cobley just brought up another one from Qualicum Ron: think now I might even have enough disk drives rich-c: just the one Adam offered that I recall, though it was a fairly good setup Ron: David and Midge are coming, by the way BobS: COOL Ron: There was another guy with one - I think rich-c: I still don't know if I will be able to drive or will have to fly BobS: last one Daavid came to was 3 i think Ron: There's Dennis R. Morgan, and Luke Perry Ron: He was also at 5 Bob Ron: drove down BobS: Dennis and MariJo.....met them @ AC02 I think BobS: I missed that one Ron: yes, he said he'd been at 2 Ron: will send it on Ron: one day at a time Rich
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!! rich-c: exactly - but I can't get to teh Sunnybrook clinics, they're closed for SARS Daniel B.: rich: i didn't find any info who said if the service is available for Quebec. Ron: al times (those flying) We'll arrange pickup Ron: ok...what is this rich-c: hello Guy, where ya been? Ron: if you can let me know your Ron: arrival times Judy: hi, Guy Ron: I'm only about 10 min from the airport Ron: Mr. Bona I presume Guy B.: I'm here am I? rich-c: the ad in The Computer Paper says they operate in the cities mentioned - why not try their phone number rich-c: they offer "service bilingue" in the ad 8=) BobS: Hi Guy Guy B.: Ron, have a question for you. Will it be a good idea to rent a car to get to the hotel from the airport?
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changed username to Ron-Too Ron-Too: send a boy to do a man's job rich-c: oh dear, now you're twins, Ron Ron-Too: OS X has gone into never never land Guy B.: We have twins! BobS: RON, you am twins!!!!!! Ron-Too: will log my misbehaving alter ego off as soon as I regain control over the STUPID iMAC Guy B.: What the Mac crashed on you? BobS: niww, now, ya bought that one Ron-Too: yup Ron-Too: Jaguar no less rich-c: such language! don't let The Steve hear you say that! Ron-Too: he is going to here me say a variety of things shortly Daniel B.: http://www.geocities.com/newcoleco2/cvprog/ George: Hi Guy Guy B.: I got Netzero on the Dell, Finally and it works just fine. Daniel B.: to find the last version of my cv programming doc james&case: hi dan Daniel B.: hello james&case james&case: and everyone else who came on while i was making toast Daniel B.: :) BobS: :-) Ron-Too: fax me a slice James james&case: lol Ron-Too: lotsa butter james&case: that's gonna be some pretty thin toast Ron-Too: send it to my iMac BobS: alwasy eating.........pass it on!!!! Ron-Too: Nobody has talked to Dale lately eh? james&case: i wish i could get a decent pizza in this country Ron-Too: wonder if they intend to come Guy B.: Seems like he vanished from the earth. rich-c: well, wasn't Jill planning to go back to work? that could mess up their free time Guy B.: Well, guess I'll ask Ron my question again. Will it be a good idea for me to rent a car to get to the hotel? Ron-Too: Havent heard from Dr. D. either Ron-Too: are you flying Guy? rich-c: how long do you plan to stay there, Guy? George: ah, coconut custard pie BobS: can alwasy send hinm or Jill and email.....can't imagine they would not come Ron-Too: right Guy B.: Yes, it will take a LOOOOOOOONG time to drive there. BobS: they are always a late show Ron-Too: right, sorry...... no need to rent, I will pick you up (assume you're booked thru to Comox) rich-c: apparently airport to hotel is short and easy, lift may be available rich-c: if you're only staying for the convention, a car would be a waste Ron-Too: yes.... 10 minutes to my place, another 10 downtown Ron-Too: nothing around here is very far away from anything else Daniel B.: Someone named james curtis was very happy to read my cv prog document... he's trying to do a new colecovision game for next year. :) Guy B.: I'll probably get my reservations in for the airline tickets in June, But, I'll get my reservation and deposit off to Bob in a couple of weeks. rich-c: that's why the hotel is in Courtenay, teh city limits shrank? BobS: it IS, after all, and ISLAND, eh???????? Ron-Too: soon, everything will be in Courtenay BobS: FIRST reservation??????? BobS: Ron, did ya change it to CA $$$ yet?????? Ron-Too: we resist as long as we can BobS: put both up........ Judy: he isn't going to start that again? rich-c: creeping amalgamation, eh? Guy B.: I just want to find out how the transportation is out there before I do anything. BobS: rioght mate!!!!! Ron-Too: No I haven't bob.....tis my intent.....roundtuits Ron-Too: soon BobS: or is it....roight George: travel to Canada Forbidden rich-c: better hurry Ron, at the current rate our dollar my be at par by August Ron-Too: yeah. We've already had one vote. Question was rejected, but it's like a bad dream, it'll be back BobS: oloang as it is $$$$, we don't care wht version it is in BobS: will even take yen........ Guy B.: Aso! Ron-Too: yup rich-c: you've been watching Fox too much, George
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changed username to Ron Guy B.: The twin is back! BobS: JAMES, case says......I come to # 15 rich-c: Ron, you back on the Mac? Ron: you on the other side of the mirror....begone
Ron left chat session George: i can't get across town Ron-Too: how many of me are left? james&case: i'd really like to make it] rich-c: just the one named Too Ron-Too: better james&case: will anything be done to celebrate 20 years of adam?
(rich-c gives Guy B. a can of Diet Coke.) james&case: this is the 20th anniversary, right? Ron-Too: Japan james&case: japan? rich-c: Pam doesnt expect to make it tonight, Guy Guy B.: Thanks Rich, just finish the last can. BobS: (bob gives rich-c a glass of wine) Guy B.: Then she gets two next time. Ron-Too: no wine pleae, I will wake up face down in the street rich-c: easy on that, Bob, it's contra'd with my meds - but just this once ;-] Daniel B.: be right back... Guy B.: Hold that Bob. Save it for the reception. BobS: we could take an old non working ADAM and thrash it to even further death james&case: lol Ron-Too: Meanwhile..... for those contemplating a presentation of wisdom at AC15....... please Ron-Too: anybody? james&case: i had something nicer in mind james&case: if i were going and knew more, i'd do a presentation Ron-Too: put it on video James james&case: hmm.. conference.. that's an option Guy B.: Well, eventually. I'm going to start on the next project for the emulator utility setup. BobS: you could just crawl to the front and gurgle Case !!!!!! james&case: i have a video camera Ron-Too: we'd need a VPN between us and you james&case: i could do a video presentation. why the hell didn't i think of that rich-c: remember to use a VHS tape in NTSC format Ron-Too: Chris Braymen and Rich Drushel have both done that at times -- worked well enough james&case: i've had very little luck getting a vpn to work and at isdn 64k it's better if i just upload a video or mail it to you on a cd james&case: yeah, that's the standard here Ron-Too: join the club james&case: vhs is doable rich-c: Japan uses teh NTSC format? I thought it was better than that james&case: anything related to IT in this country is woefully antiquated Ron-Too: We'll make the time James if you want to have a go at that james&case: now i need a subject matter james&case: i know what i'd like to do, but i'm just not there in terms of programming skills on the adam james&case: i've got the manuals from rich rich-c: read Mel Ostler's books - FAST Ron-Too: something to build on your programmin skills James.....I see great minds think alike George: i thought we were switching to an A something format james&case: lol. now if only there were 30 hours in a day Guy B.: Any of guys having problems using WRdisk for the emulator? Ron-Too: ok here Guy james&case: my copy of macadam seems to have died rich-c: what's a wrsc? rich-c: sorry, wrdisc Ron-Too: think I have one here James.....will get it to ya Ron-Too: WRDISK Ron-Too: the utility that prepares ADAM images james&case: ok, while i'm at it - does anyone have a copy of the macadam *manual*. that also seems to have died BobS: rich or Ron......ever heard of a manufactured voard for the ADAM (slot 1 I think) that went into a module 3 to get the 5 pin din port for a monitor????? BobS: looks like a big john thing,....but Ron-Too: not here Bob.....would really like that if there was one rich-c: nope, that's new to me, Bob BobS: on on Ebay...gonna have a whack at it I think, jsut to have it Guy B.: WRdisk is the writing a disk image for the Adam Emulator. I'm thinking of writing a Windows program setup, so all the necessary parameters are entered before the program runs in DOS mode. Much like I did for Dcopy Setup. Ron-Too: yea for sure eh? rich-c: don't recall that every being offered by Orphanware unless as a prototype that never flew james&case: ron, can you get me the macadam manual too? George: oh, we are switching to ATSC Ron-Too: I think so James. I will have to look for it, but I think I have one rich-c: someday, Guy, I'll get an English translation of that last sentence :-) Guy B.: Rich, you could never figured out how I did this, can you? Ron-Too: Think that would be very helpful Guy james&case: ok, i think the best bet would be floppy or if you can e-mail the electronic images i can probably get something to work Ron-Too: I 'm an old command line freak myself, but I would use such a program Guy B.: OK, that will be my next project. james&case: i'd like to get the macadam manual on my pc so i can print it. viewing it in smartwriter is painfully slow rich-c: Guy, I wouldn't know a parameter if it dropped on my toe. Maybe one did Ron-Too: think I can scan to a PDF James\ Guy B.: Don't worry Rich. Even a new comer like you will know what to do when this is done. rich-c: you faith is touching, Guy Daniel B.: ... it's time to say: goodnight everybody. |-) zzz Guy B.: Bye Daniel. Ron-Too: Dorme bien Daniel rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - bonne chance avec l'ISP Daniel B.: merci... bonne nuit! à une prochaine fois! Judy: I am going to call it a night, so bye until next week Guy B.: Bye Judy. rich-c: night Judy, see you then Daniel B.: * p o o f * james&case: that sounds like a lot of work for you ron
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Judy left chat session james&case: some interesting ebay auctions rich-c: oh? what are they offereing? George: can we get chat v3.0? james&case: someone is selling hacker's guide james&case: and the high bid is currently $26 u.s. Ron-Too: Boy, that held it's value james&case: anyone know who sandyclay is (that's the buyer) rich-c: sheesh! I should offer one of my extra copies Ron-Too: what was it originally james&case: and the seller is nwcomputers.com Guy B.: Boy, my nephew is having his first communion in two weeks and my mother in-law is coming up from Tennessee. I haven't seen her in almost 9 years. BobS: haven't the faintest idea......got a few of them james&case: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2723370033&category=4193 rich-c: one of these days I'll have to validate my Paypal account rich-c: trouble is, the lowlifes wont let me run it in US funds Ron-Too: should actually use mine now and again Ron-Too: but after having paid $70 for an Atari mouse, I'm a little gun shy rich-c: wait till they start dealing with Canada on equitable terms, otherwise, forget 'em Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to check the e-mail. I will not be able to make it Saturday. Getting my haircut in the afternoon, So, I'll see you all next week. Ron-Too: when I do searches, I usually start out looking for sellers north of the border james&case: bob, can you send me the url for that auction you were talking about (don't worry, i'm not going to try to outbid you :P ) Ron-Too: but then.....the search inevitably widens rich-c: OK, a week it is Guy, take care Ron-Too: nite Guy
Guy B. left chat session BobS: ya got ot get it james&case: i can try and get it for the community if you think you can't Ron-Too: You still gonna bring me a Tosh battery Bob? BobS: Colecovision ADAM System w Rare Card & Extras rich-c: james, are you talking about getting the Hacker's Guide? BobS: Item # 2724159177 BobS: ya mon, got it right here and wearing it out Ron-Too: good....wanna make sure it works Ron-Too: I sure like that little critter (the Toshiba I mean) one of the most useful purchases ever BobS: ya sure BobS: good lord it is slow on my end tonight BobS: nice puter, ya????? Ron-Too: yup rich-c: this server was slow first few minutes but has been fine since james&case: odd that auction didn't come up in my search james&case: interesting though BobS: my slowness is my own isp james&case: i'd be more interested in knowing who made the card Ron-Too: seems ok here Ron-Too: macintosh notwithstanding BobS: SO, I thikn I will bail also, BE GOOD AND HAVE FUN ya'll rich-c: OK Bob, catch you next week unless you're on Saturday Ron-Too: ok sir...be well, Judy be well (oh she's gond) Ron-Too: gone james&case: anyone who's curious: james&case: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2724159177 BobS: Herman and GK don't recognize it James
BobS left chat session james&case: it looks like it'd be very simple to duplicate. i probably have half the chips here i'd need to build it rich-c: that is suggestive james&case: it'd certainly be interesting to talk to its creator Ron-Too: are we winding down? james&case: awww.. i thought we just got going james&case: :P rich-c: yes - wonder if the chips are Adam chips? Ron-Too: I know eh.... I was late Ron-Too: as always Ron-Too: James, I take it the plan to come this way in Aug has gone by the boards? james&case: they look like standard 74 series ttl chips james&case: a friend of mine is getting married in october rich-c: just be aware I have a lot of dead Adam boards ripe for salvage George: who is the actual person who created ADAM? Ron-Too: sounds like priority james&case: and i simply can't afford to fly in twice and then again for the holidays (should we go) rich-c: nobody knows, George Ron-Too: understand rich-c: presumably it was an engineering committee at Coleco james&case: has anyone looked at the board in the url i just posted? james&case: i'd be very willing to do a video presentation on something rich-c: no, for some reason Spaniel Chat gets awkward if I go away james&case: you could spawn another browser. i usually do the same thing rich-c: I only have IE at teh moment - gave up on Opera and Netscape is too dangerous for my taste Ron-Too: We;d like that james. I think something about programming would be appropriate - as long as it's not too complicated.... james&case: with me at the helm, it'd be very simple Ron-Too: that's what we need rich-c: maybe I should look into getting Mozilla 1.0 james&case: that board is so simple. you can do half the design just be looking at the pic. it would be very easy to duplicate Ron-Too: like---- what's the job to be done? How do we break it up into tasks the computer can do Ron-Too: ete etc james&case: meticulous is my middle name james&case: well, actually, james is my middle name Ron-Too: you have not changed on that score since you were 13 years old, and I mean that as a compliment james&case: taken as such ;-) Ron-Too: Actually, I'm thinking you could draw examples from logo and from basic, to show that language is only secondary to the task at hand james&case: very true Ron-Too: Dale did that one year,, but left us somewhat breathless...... C++ and all james&case: the ability to solve problems and think through the approach is paramount. the implementation is easy Ron-Too: exactly james&case: i'm still plugging away at c++ with my student Ron-Too: I have both Borland and Visual (versions 5) here, and again...I'm short of roundtuits Ron-Too: I was supposed to have all the time in the world rich-c: well, on that, dont say I didnt warn you, Ron Ron-Too: yeah, you did didn't ya james&case: time.. yes.. i lose about 4 or 5 hours of productive time every morning these days rich-c: been there, done that, sent word back Ron-Too: Tell me..... anybody know anything about Borland C++ Builder? james&case: nada Ron-Too: there's a local store with a used copy for $29.95 Ron-Too: guess there's only one way I'm going to find out Ron-Too: I know that Marcel deKogel has a site on it Ron-Too: for different reason James Ron-Too: and they are good reasons james&case: i'm confused rich-c: gentlemen, I find I'm just about running on empty Ron-Too: yessir.... and I must go continue the evening rich-c: George, I'll try to get on Saturday, hope to see you there james&case: will see everyone next week hopefully rich-c: james, great to have you here, will be well on time next week Ron-Too: yup Ron-Too: be well, all rich-c: and so - goodnight to all james&case: ron, i'll be bugging you via e-mail james&case: :P james&case: 'nite rich Ron-Too: yes, please do..... it will get things done james&case: bytehacker@shaw.ca, right? Ron-Too: yup that's me james&case: ok, i'll get the ball rolling rich-c: nite - poof George: night all james&case: lol
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