james: good morning james: hello? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Hi James, I'm here. james: hello james: i'm afraid you have me at an advantage james: with whom do i have the pleasure of speaking? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Rich Drushel? "Dr. D."? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Or are you a different James? james: lol. Dr. D. Lang Syne: The "Lang Syne" is because I've been away for so long. james: i'm the same james minus a few firing neurons this morning Dr. D. Lang Syne: Rich Clee will chuckle, anyway :-) james: so i hear you've been somewhat busy, in the same way that lake superior is somewhat deep Dr. D. Lang Syne: Gack, it has never stopped this semester. james: people are curious to know if you're going to the con Dr. D. Lang Syne: And I get no E-mail from the coladam-list, not sure if my ISP is junking it as spam (they have instituted some pretty aggressive blocking stuff). Dr. D. Lang Syne: My plan is to go, yes. Dr. D. Lang Syne: 2nd week(end) in August, isn't it? james: i may be there virtually or possibly encased in a vhs tape james: i think that's what it was Dr. D. Lang Syne: I did that for ADAMcon 10...I sent a tape with a 2-hour presentation. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Plus $100 to be a Virtual Delegate (and thus "earn" my T-shirt). Dr. D. Lang Syne: From what I heard about 10's finances, it had to be a welcome contribution. james: i may go that route. i can't afford to take the time off james: nor is it financially feasible for me to fly to and from canada three times a year james: http://www.members.shaw.ca/adamcon15/ Dr. D. Lang Syne: I have been dreading the flight costs from Cleveland...I've been to scared (and busy) to look, but my guess is that it will cost me 3-4x times the delegate cost to fly there. Dr. D. Lang Syne: I can't spare 2 weeks to drive it, either. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Oops, make that "too scared too look". james: high season from asia to canada would be at least $1200 u.s. i figure. Dr. D. Lang Syne: And I've been wondering what border crossing nonsense there is likely to be, more likely trying to get back into the USA than out of it. james: and since i've been round trip 3 times in the last 6 months and likely have to go again in september for a wedding it's just not going to happen james: yeah, the "proverbial" border is not so proverbial anymore Dr. D. Lang Syne: I've never needed a passport for anything, and am wondering whether I ought to get one (if it's not too late already). james: i don't know about the u.s. but generally, assuming you haven't done anything shady, you should be able to get one within a few weeks of applying Dr. D. Lang Syne: After a story forwarded to me by a Finnish friend about a Finn who was locked up in chains because US customs mistakenly thought she had been one too many days in the US (without having applied for a visa) back in 1994 or somesuch... james: finnish? gee.. that's not the first nationality that comes to mind when i think national threat Dr. D. Lang Syne: ...my friend has foresworn ever coming back here for business, at least until the Bush regime is gone. james: regime. interesting choice of nomenclature. it's not a whole lot better in canaduh these days either. Dr. D. Lang Syne: He said he'd rather be fired from his job than put up with the nonsense. james: a friend of mine from buffalo was going to meet up with me when i was in niagara falls in march but he heard about the 6 hour border delays and changed his mind Dr. D. Lang Syne: I haven't heard anything "interesting" about Canada recently except misplaced hoopla about SARS in Toronto. james: lol. basically we've had a lame-duck prime minister who should have stepped down about a year ago but never took the hint Dr. D. Lang Syne: My Finnish friend was in Toronto last summer for 5 weeks at IBM, and we decided against either of us coming to visit the other for the same reason. james: and a liberal cabinet hellbent on insulting the u.s. at every opportune moment Dr. D. Lang Syne: And also he was afraid that he'd not be able to get back into Canada. james: wow Dr. D. Lang Syne: Well, it's not like our regime doesn't deserve all the insults...I thnk that they are idiots. james: one day, though i doubt within my lifetime, maybe case's, we'll just have the planet and do away with all this regional feudalism Dr. D. Lang Syne: The businesses want to operate that way already. Dr. D. Lang Syne: And they are using nationalism to further their aims when it suits them. james: i think realistically though, until most of the world is roughly on par economically and in terms of living standards, it's not a good idea Dr. D. Lang Syne: Well, I hope that Europe will unite to oppose the American hegemony and the Chinese waiting opportunistically for the others to take each other out :-) james: my current biggest concern is the cult of kim jong il james: how cute. case is playing with the late commander data Dr. D. Lang Syne: ? james: i've got a semi-posable action figure of data that case has taken to playing with lately Dr. D. Lang Syne: aha james: so how did the robot egg hunt go? Dr. D. Lang Syne: I guess it's not as fully functional as the real Data...though probably more durable to small kids chewing on it. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Egg Hunt is this weekend, on Sunday. Dr. D. Lang Syne: So, you haven't missed it. Dr. D. Lang Syne: You can watch on legocam.cwru.edu if you like, 12:30 PM EDT (GMT -0500). james: i hope to check it out now that my internet access is reliable james: hmm.. 1.30 a.m.. james: i'm usually asleep by midnight these days Dr. D. Lang Syne: The lab webcast ought to be up right now, though unless other students are working in the back, the lights will be out. james: i've had to adjust my sleeping cycle to accomodate his majesty Dr. D. Lang Syne: I have to be asleep by about 10 PM tonight, since I have to get up early to take Elanor to the school to leave on a class bus trip to Chicago at 4:30 AM. james: do any of your students work on adams? james: what kind of trip? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Trip: standard tourist stuff, museums etc. They will be back Saturday IIRC. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Adams: no ADAMites in this bunch. Dr. D. Lang Syne: The last student I had who played with a real ADAM was probably Fall 1998. james: so what level course and what department is it with? james: wow. that's five years ago now Dr. D. Lang Syne: 300 level, if that means anything to you. Highest undergrad level. *BUT* no formal prerequisites.
moved to room Meeting Place james: i bet that's mr. clee now
changed username to rich-c Dr. D. Lang Syne: Cross-listed in Biology and Electrical Engineering/Computer Science (known as EECS around here). james: good morning rich :P Dr. D. Lang Syne: Hello Richard. rich-c: morning, james and evening, rich james: i did two years of computer systems engineering james: hows the weather in t.o? rich-c: well, it was supposed to be cool/tolerable but it';s been a bit chillier than that rich-c: say about 12 when we wre promised 17 james: 'tis sunny and warm here. might get a little more yard work done rich-c: hmm - interesting change in my screen here james: if you two gentlemen will excuse me for a few moments, someone here has raised a stink. literally. rich-c: I upgraded a couple of weeks back to Java Runtime Environment 1.4x Dr. D. Lang Syne: Haha, diaper duty for Daddy. rich-c: now up in the top right corner of my screen, a little piece of IE is showing through rich-c: also the type face has changed and I have the choice of two Dr. D. Lang Syne: I think this Mac here has Java 1.1.8 (according to a Java Console log I just looked at). Dr. D. Lang Syne: So Richard: have people been sending stuff out on the coladam list? I get nothing except the stuff I post. rich-c: I started with I think 1.2, got 1.3 a while back to run some program or other - new Qucik Time, maybe? rich-c: if they have, Rich, I haven't seen it - I did see your posts so I'm getting what comes through Dr. D. Lang Syne: I'm wondering if my ISP's spam trap software is disposing of the posts...or if the regulars on the list are using ISPs that the spam trap is classifying as spam by definition. rich-c: by the way, I've been looking at the menu here and there seem to be a few new items Dr. D. Lang Syne: Did anyone reply to either of my posts this week? Dr. D. Lang Syne: New in the chat client? rich-c: if they did I didn't see it, but they weren't items requiring a reply Dr. D. Lang Syne: I see an "emme" in the Rooms menu, not sure what that means. rich-c: yes, look at the menus - they have expanded Dr. D. Lang Syne: And "Tartarus" rich-c: no, a couple of items look like Dale might have slipped them in for reasons unknown Dr. D. Lang Syne: I see File, Edit, Rooms, Actions, Extras, About, and Help as top-level menus created by the chat client. rich-c: anyway my ISP has a spam filter and I use mail washer and I still boot about 20 - 25 spams a day james: i don't get anything on the mailing list either. i checked my caughtspam folder on my mailserver in ottawa and it only caught one false positive
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Dr. D. Lang Syne moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D. Lang Syne: Well, that just changed the colors of the chat windows. rich-c: oh, what did? Dr. D. Lang Syne: "emme" went blue. "Tartarus" went black. And then "Meeting Place" is white again.
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rich-c moved to room Tartarus Dr. D. Lang Syne: Maybe this Mac is too old to see the new features you are seeing.
rich-c moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: only problem is that it drops you out and loses the log james: am i alone? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Yes, I noticed that. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Not sure why that is there. rich-c: no, Rich and I have been playing with new items on teh drop-down menus
james moved to room emme james: it's blue now
james moved to room Meeting Place james: so it would seem
(Dr. D. Lang Syne quaffs a cold glass of fresh milk.) rich-c: oh, now james in in emme - wonder if this shows up?
(Dr. D. Lang Syne groans loudly)
(Dr. D. Lang Syne smiles) james: i'm back here Dr. D. Lang Syne: I guess those have been there all along, just never paid any attention.
(Someone throws a brick at Dr. D. Lang Syne) james: wasn't me james: :P
(Dr. D. Lang Syne is thrown out of the window.) Dr. D. Lang Syne: Like Krazy Kat, I am immune to thrown bricks. Dr. D. Lang Syne: So fie upon thee, Ignatz Mouse! rich-c: see what all this mucking about in strange places gets you?
(rich-c reboots Dr. D. Lang Syne's computer remotely.) Dr. D. Lang Syne: NO CARRIER~~~ rich-c: just sent an email to the mailing list to see if it gets through the various spam filters james: i'll give it a try james: brb rich-c: well, if you get an email from me soon you'll know Dr. D. Lang Syne: Just telnetted into apk.net and opened my mailbox, we'll see if anything comes in. rich-c: be interesting to see how long it takes for my copy to arrive here rich-c: I have mail washer checking every ten minutes in the background Dr. D. Lang Syne: Well, since I've been away so long...is everyone well? Dr. D. Lang Syne: (Just got your mail, Richard) rich-c: we don't know about Dale or Jill, they havent been on for weeks rich-c: OK, took about two minutes to get to you and got through your filter OK rich-c: doctor wants me to see a specialist about a prostate area vascular change - just in case, those my PSA tst is normal rich-c: and I finally get to see an orthopedic surgeon next week about getting a hip jpoint replacement Dr. D. Lang Syne: Oh my, it's come to bionic legs, has it? The cartilage supplement did not work well enough? rich-c: the specialist clinics are mostly in hospitals that have been closed to visitws because of SARS rich-c: no, I'm disappointed to say that it didnt - deterioration has been slow, but it's been there Dr. D. Lang Syne: Sigh. rich-c: interestingly, the doctor told me the mechanical function is fine, it's the pain that limits ability Dr. D. Lang Syne: Are you going to be laid up for ADAMcon? rich-c: so if I can control the pain then I should be able to do normal physical things rich-c: oh heavens no - the question is whether I dare to drive there with the trailer Dr. D. Lang Syne: Long sitting does not affect your condition? Or ability to press brake or gas pedals? rich-c: staying in any position long enough can cause pain, sometimes severe rich-c: but I can change the positioning of my left leg and that is the troublesome one rich-c: also my chair in the van has a fair range of positions available rich-c: to give you an idea, I can only sleep in one position at night Dr. D. Lang Syne: Sigh. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Would the hip replacement change this? rich-c: yes, from what everyone who's had it tells me, you go pretty well back to normal rich-c: Joseph over teh back fence could barely move before his change, now he's full time gardening when not walking the dog rich-c: others we know who have had it done have all said dont wait, do it now Dr. D. Lang Syne: So what kind of time frame are you looking at for the replacement? How long does it take to work through your Health Service (or whatever the name is, I can't remember)? Dr. D. Lang Syne: A tiny slip of a Chinese girl in the robot class this semester was out for a while because of corrective surgery on one of her hip joints. rich-c: well, we don't have a Health Service or anything like thait all depends on which hospital the surgeon admits to and what their waiting list is like Dr. D. Lang Syne: She must weigh not more than 75 lbs...but had some kind of defect that made it hard for her to walk. Dr. D. Lang Syne: She seems to be much better after whatever surgery was done. rich-c: right now with the time lost to the SARS epidemic I'd imagine waiting lists are pretty fierce Dr. D. Lang Syne: It's not a lung replacement :-) rich-c: remember it's elective surgery so doesnt have the priority of needful things rich-c: anyway if I have my druthers I'll have it done late fall - late Oct/ early Nov Dr. D. Lang Syne: Well, let's hope the hospitals are scubbed of SARS by then. rich-c: figue if I'm going to be hors de combat a bit it might as well be when I can't do anything anyway Dr. D. Lang Syne: I presume that Pam will get shuttle duty for you and Frances during your recuperation? rich-c: oh, the last "public" case ended April 9th and teh last in-hospital case ended Apr. 20th james: back rich-c: no, I expect I will be able to drive myself very soon after I get sprung from hospital rich-c: Pamela has a very full-time job and her own life to live; I'd not want to impose Dr. D. Lang Syne: Which hip, right or left, did you say? rich-c: the left hip - clutch side on an automatic truck ;-] Dr. D. Lang Syne: Solves that problem. How about climbing up into said high-floor-pan truck? rich-c: I just put my right leg on the running board, heave my butt into the seat, and pull my legs in after Dr. D. Lang Syne: Sounds like you have considered all the options :-) james: sorry to be gone so long. was fixing case a "snack" rich-c: well, like, I've had this for months, so I've had to learn the accomodations one makes james: just caught up. i hope your hip replacement goes well, rich Dr. D. Lang Syne: Elanor says hi...she is going off to sleep now. rich-c: you may recall at the last Adamcon I had my limitations but still functioned pretty well OK rich-c: tell Elanor hi from us, please james: test rich-c: wonder where the Slopsemas and Guy and Ron and Pam are tonight - it's so quiet rich-c: you're still with us, james Dr. D. Lang Syne: Message conveyed. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Ron and Pam were never showing up until the 2nd hour, at least in Fall 2002.
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D. Lang Syne: Some show Pam was watching. rich-c: anyway I do feel there is certain risk in trying to run a transcontinental in my shape
changed username to scott scott: Hey Rich rich-c: but we desperately want to do it and can afford to really take our time rich-c: in fact I think we could average only 100 miles a day and still arive with time in hand Dr. D. Lang Syne: Hello Scott. rich-c: hey, Scott, didn't see you come in - welcome scott: If you see Daniel before I do, let him know that my wife and I are almost done assembling his cartridges rich-c: if we do, I'll pass the word along, but he wasn't on on Saturday james: i have to go to the post office. i should be back in about 45 minutes or so. james: hi scott rich-c: he's working on some sort of assignment involving Java for his course and needed a forum in French Dr. D. Lang Syne: There's part of me that would be really up for a marathon car trip like BASIC did to Salt Lake City...but I don't think I could take Herman smoking in the van any more... rich-c: OK james hope to see you shortly scott: Hi James. How's Japan? james: warm and sunny james: i'll bid you good night now, dr. d as you may have gone to bed by the time i return scott: Those North Koreans aren't giving you guys any problems, now are they? Dr. D. Lang Syne: It's amazing how far you can get if you drive continuously. In 1993 I remember, leave Cleveland at 8:00 AM, at 9:30 PM we are eating supper in Lincoln, Nebraska. rich-c: that was rarely an issue with me because we didn't have a/c and teh windows wre always open Dr. D. Lang Syne: Bye James. james: see you all again soon
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: nite james
changed username to BobS james: *poof*
james left chat session BobS: POOF.......... rich-c: well, the late Mr. Slopsema - where y'all been? BobS: misssed him eh??? rich-c: yup, serves you right ;-] BobS: to a big meeating at the antique mall.........they are closing BobS: bummer, now we got all thsi junk......... BobS: and got to do womthin with it rich-c: oh horrors - that's sort of your key outlet, isnt it? BobS: somethin BobS: the best one, yes scott: Rich - were you able to check to see if you have any extra cartridges? BobS: the other one is down on sales Dr. D. Lang Syne: womthin is a good word, 'cause I bet it's the women that made you bring all that junk home :-) BobS: WAKE UP doc rich-c: hate to tell you, Scott, but it entirely slipped my mind - have had a bunch of minor crises lately BobS: thomthin like dat Dr. D. Lang Syne: haha scott: What?! Didn't check??? rich-c: hey, at least I scored one small triumph this week scott: What are you talking about, man???? rich-c: first - today Canon was advertising inkjet refill cartridges for my printer - $20 each scott: I guess none of the rest of you would have extra or non working cartridges? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Game cartridges or inkjet cartridges? rich-c: and my printer is showing low on two of the colours -the others will soon also be down scott: Coleco game cartridges rich-c: but I found a place in Scarboro selling clone cartridges for $7 each Dr. D. Lang Syne: No dead ones here (sorta amazing after all these years). rich-c: and when I bought four they threw in an electronic stopwatch for free scott: What are clone cartridges? rich-c: ink cartridges that fit the printer but wren't made by Canon rich-c: anyway crises - jugging doctor appointment, dentist appointment for crown, two specialist appointments (cancelled for SARS) rich-c: broken seal = leaking gas on van, that sort of thing rich-c: a lot of essentially minor but time-consuming extra chores to be done scott: Well, guys, I gotta get off the phone line -- Mike from Good Deal Games is gonna call me. scott: See ya later. rich-c: hope to go up and see what it will take to make the trailer roadworthy tomorrow scott: *Poof*
scott left chat session rich-c: see you SAcott rich-c: by the way, how are you folks doing on gas prices? rich-c: I found a station @59.9/l yesterday Dr. D. Lang Syne: Last fillup by me last week was $1.469/gal IIRC, 87 octane, for the lawn mower jerry can. rich-c: on a US size gallon, that's $2.28 Canadian - about $1.62 US$ Dr. D. Lang Syne: I keep a logbook of all gas purchased for the cars, so I have historical data going back to 1989 (1986 for the Maverick, which hasn't been driven for some years now though). rich-c: wow, your prices are really down then Dr. D. Lang Syne: Most of it from the corner Sunoco station. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Hang on, I will get the book from the Voyager... BobS: good lord now we are alone!!!! rich-c: anyway, Bob, what do you have to unload with the mall closing? rich-c: and how long do you have left to unload it? BobS: dropped here to $1.47 today and will undoubtedly jump up to 1.57 or so in few days then drop, etc BobS: mall closes JMune 1st BobS: June BobS: hopefully another of the dealers is loooking into opening a mall rich-c: then you only have under five weeks left? BobS: tonight he got quite a show of support and commitment to go with him BobS: 4 weeks
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: yes, I believe we have something like that going on here in Toronto
changed username to Judy rich-c: hello Judy Dr. D. Lang Syne: 4/19 $1.539; 4/02 $1.639; 3/15 $1.739, 3/11 $1.739; 2/23 $1.639; 2/12 $1.789; 1/29 $1.519; 1/17 $1.489; 1/04 $1.469; 12/17 $1.349. Judy: Hi, Rich BobS: about what we had Dr D rich-c: but the best and oldest antique mall in the city is folding, and teh dealers cant come together to lease a coop BobS: BUT going to Florida end of Feb, paid low of 140 in Georgia/Tennesse and upt o $1.75 in Fl and here Dr. D. Lang Syne: Hello Judy. rich-c: they all say they would sublet but wont cosign a cooperative master lease Judy: Hello Dr D Judy: How is the family? rich-c: maybe there are some sort of legal complications we are not hearing about Dr. D. Lang Syne: A loaded question :-) Judy: probably!!! Dr. D. Lang Syne: Kids are all fine, all busy, Christina is playing varsity softball. BobS: well, I even toyed with the idea of jumping in, but the mall is in Holland and that is almost an hour away.......too far to get to heavily involved Judy: so, keeping you very busy Dr. D. Lang Syne: Joan spent Easter in the hospital :-( But she was released 24 hours later and seems to be okay now. rich-c: only an hour? but what's that on a busy retail day? rich-c: great heavens - what happened to Joan? Judy: what was wrong with her? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Doctors don't know. BobS: on a busy day maybe hour and a half.....or on yucky winter days Judy: is she doing better now? Dr. D. Lang Syne: She fell over unconscious in church, was out for about 15 minutes. Had some EKG irregularities when they took her to the ER. BobS: what the heck good are docters then???????? rich-c: well, how long would you usually want to keep the shop open? Dr. D. Lang Syne: It wasn't heat, or the sermon, or crowding, or dehydration, or lack of food. Dr. D. Lang Syne: It wasn't heart attack, or stroke, or seizure. BobS: 10 to 6 daily and 12 to 6 on Sun is what we have now........would be better to stay open til 8pm Dr. D. Lang Syne: I.e., it wasn't all the obvious possibilities. Dr. D. Lang Syne: So, unless it happened again, they weren't going to move to Round 2 of testing. Judy: ruled out things but didn't give an answer to what is going on? rich-c: is she on any medication that could have that sort of side effect? Dr. D. Lang Syne: They gave her 3 days off from work and said she could go back if nothing happened. Nothing did, so back she went. Dr. D. Lang Syne: No meds except the odd Tylenol for headache. No supplements or vitamins or herbal what-have-yous. rich-c: no chance it could have been a TIA? did they do an EEG to see? Dr. D. Lang Syne: No EEG that I know of. Because of the EKG irregularities, she was admitted to the coronary unit and monitored with a telemetry box the whole time she was there. Dr. D. Lang Syne: The EKG stuff was only irregular in the ER, never in the coronary unit. rich-c: you may recall that over New Years last year Frances had a TIA Dr. D. Lang Syne: She is to see our family doctor next week for routine physical stuff. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Now that you mention it, I remember. rich-c: one of teh side effects was that her blood pressure went through teh roof - over 200 systolic Dr. D. Lang Syne: Heh. Hers was 90/40 when admitted to the ER> Judy: speaking of Frances, how is she? rich-c: doinf fine, sitting in the other room playing with her Amiga Dr. D. Lang Syne: But it normally is on the low side, like 100/60. rich-c: did I mention her mother is now 100 years old? BobS: ah.....isn't that a might low?????????? Judy: say hi from me, please Dr. D. Lang Syne: A little on the low normal side, but still normal. "Normal" being 110/70. rich-c: yes, 90/40 is really low - normal is what, 120/80? Dr. D. Lang Syne: I will..she's at work again tonight. Judy: but 40 is very low isn't it? Dr. D. Lang Syne: Yes, it is definitely get-to-the-hospital low. Dr. D. Lang Syne: At least 2 physicians in the congregation were with her almost as soon as she keeled over, so there was aggressive intevention and calling of 911 etc. Judy: I hope you can find out what is going on rich-c: cario abnormalities and a BP of 40 - yeah, something was sure wrong Dr. D. Lang Syne: All I know is second-hand, because I was at home, getting ready for a planned trek to my Dad's after they got home. Of course that away mission was scrubbed. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Christina was the main eyewitness, next to the physicians in the congregation. rich-c: obviosly Dr. D. Lang Syne: Joan herslf has little recollection of anything. rich-c: well, at least if the trouble repeats at work, she'll have expert help close at hand Dr. D. Lang Syne: So, we just wait and hope it doesn't happen again. Judy: probably rich-c: or if it does happen again that it will do so in circumstances that let the problem be identified Dr. D. Lang Syne: If she had not been discharged when she was, I would have had to cancel the dress rehearsal for the Egg Hunt downtown at the Great Lakes Science Center, because I wouldn't have been available to drive the equipment truck from the University. Dr. D. Lang Syne: It made for a lot of contingency planning...so it was a hectic time. Judy: no wonder we haven't seen you on chat for a while Dr. D. Lang Syne: If I can just make it to next Friday..Egg Hunt will be done, grades will be done, nothing to do until my summer robot course in mid-June except slug research. rich-c: well, these emergencies do arise, and they do take priority Judy: you are still in slug research? Dr. D. Lang Syne: It's been busy. Joan had a bunch of evening shift this spring, and I have had transport duties for 3 girl scouts and 1 band/softball player. At 9 PM, I just fall asleep. Dr. D. Lang Syne: Still slug research paying the Drushel bills. Dr. D. Lang Syne: At least for 2 more years, assuming we don't get a grant renewed before then. Judy: we have some in the yard I could donate Dr. D. Lang Syne: haha rich-c: in which case it will be for more than two years?
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moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D. Lang Syne: It will be for the duration of whatever that grant is...usually they run in 3-year cycles. Judy: I am trying to get rid of them Dr. D. Lang Syne: 2 unidentifieds...Pam and Ron? BobS: appears possibly the mighty one is having problemsd Dr. D. Lang Syne: I haven't seen any yet here, in the grass that is. rich-c: likely Guy hit teh key twice by mistake ;-] BobS: YOU GUY BobS: YO BobS: what a "GUY" rich-c: but yes, Pam and Ron are both overdue and Pam didnt send any apologies Judy: we have been digging in the back yard, put in a pond Dr. D. Lang Syne: Mmm, frogs and dragonflies. Dr. D. Lang Syne: And fish? Judy: my tropical garden rich-c: yes, any time you need some garden type slugs, Rich, just drop me an email Judy: no, just going to have fish
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changed username to Pamela Dr. D. Lang Syne: Big goldfish? Judy: they are going to be donated by Josh rich-c: hi, daughter Pamela: I'm here, finally Judy: hi, Pam Dr. D. Lang Syne: Hello Pamela. Pamela: Hi there Pamela: wow, quiet night Pamela: where is everyone? BobS: hi Pam Pamela: Hi Rich, it's so nice to see you BobS: and HOW many times did ya try to get in my dear???????? Judy: this is my way of getting rid of stress Dr. D. Lang Syne: I'm about to duck out :-( Pamela: only tried once, Bob rich-c: Judy, just make sure your fish are teh kind that like mosquito larvae BobS: quack quack........... Dr. D. Lang Syne: I have to take Elanor to the school to start a bus trip to Chicago at 4:30 AM. Pamela: Oh Rich, are you leaving already? BobS: oh boy that time again?????? Dr. D. Lang Syne: James and I were here at 8:30. Judy: good night then Dr D hope life gets a little easier Pamela: 4:30 ???? yuck rich-c: OK Rich, be good, come again soon Dr. D. Lang Syne: Joan is evening shift tonight, so I get shuttle duty.
changed username to Tom Dr. D. Lang Syne: Watch the Egg Hunt Sunday at 12:30 PM http://legocam.cwru.edu/ Pamela: safe trip to Elanor then and hopefully we'll see you next week rich-c: well, hello, Tom, it's been a while Pamela: can't, I won't be here Pamela: Hi, Ton Pamela: oops, Tom Dr. D. Lang Syne: I will be grading LEGO lab design notebooks Wednesday night, and will need a break :-) Dr. D. Lang Syne: Good night everyone. Pamela: nite : ) rich-c: nite Rich Dr. D. Lang Syne: <poof> rich-c: what are you plotting for Sunday, Pam?
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Lang Syne left chat session Pamela: we're going up to the trailer this weekend Dad Pamela: won't be back till Sunday evening rich-c: hope that the westher holds up for you rich-c: we hope to go take a look at our trailer tomorrow Pamela: hope so too - but the rain is here - I can hear it - so hopefully we'll get rid of this system by Friday morning Pamela: Actually, I'm to blame for the rain - I washed the car yesterday rich-c: well, if tomorrow is too messy we'll look at it Friday Pamela: I took a half day for tomorrow and all of Friday as vacation days so we're leaving Friday morning - theoretically, anyway : ) rich-c: your mother says wathc out for mosquitos - there is already some West Nile around Judy: thanks we do need the rain it is really dry here BobS: rain maybe gone by Sat night Pam and then good till Mon night.....assuming you are 24 hrs behind us weatherwise Pamela: Judy, wanted to tell you that after all we went thru a couple of weeks ago, we've decided not to do games at the shower Pamela: we'll be careful Dad - it's not supposed to be very warm anyway, so probably won't be outside much Judy: we haven't got any mosquitos here yet Pamela: plus, I have a date with my cross stitch needle rich-c: nor here, but the season is rapidly coming on Judy: good choice, Pam I don't like them BobS: yea they are warning about the virus here already Pamela: most people seem to feel that way Judy Judy: we went to a shower last week and they had a makeup party at it, the pits BobS: and dead birds are showing up Pamela: we'll reserve a couple just in case, but I don't think we'll need them rich-c: we are having a quiet crisis with our local birds BobS: meaning????? Judy: not if you are having a lot of people there, then it goes on forever rich-c: we havent seen a chickadee since September - normally we can't open the door without ducking the shuttle between our feeder and teh tree Pamela: exactly - and attendance will be at about 25, I think rich-c: I' refilling teh feeder at two week intervals instead of two day Judy: and sars rich-c: the starling flocks are a fraction of their normal size Pamela: Barb and Lin had chickadees at the trailer, Dad BobS: hmmmmmmm BobS: strangely.......a side effect of the virus?????? Judy: we don't have any finches this year rich-c: we rarely see a crow; we do hear the odd jay but see very few BobS: no crows around here either rich-c: our sparrow mob is barely a small gathering, house finches are few and wary Pamela: I can do without the crows close up - they make waaaaay too much noise Judy: I had a bluebird which I never had before Pamela: BTW, did I miss anything last week? rich-c: West Nile is supposed to be worst for corvids - crows and jays and such Judy: yes, all of us!!! rich-c: but apparently it's hitting the English sparrows too rich-c: even the @##$%^&* pigeons seem to be way down in numbers, and the gulls Pamela: well of course Judy Pamela: This hasn't been a good month for chats - it seems I'm forever running behind rich-c: if things are this bad already, what will it be like when the mosquitos are out and biting? BobS: yea like getting a hair cut??????? BobS: shame on ya Judy: we were late tonight had a meeting to go to in Holland Pamela: no hair cut, no ability to see the monitor, Bob Pamela: it's funny, ever since I cut my hair short, I've had to maintain the six week schedule or I go nuts BobS: luckily we have no mosquitos here, can could them on on ehand per summer BobS: in the old place we had tons of them Pamela: old place? BobS: Mandy couldn't go in the back yard during the day!!!!! Judy: last house rich-c: well, Toronto is not exactly friendly country for mosquitos, but some find their way in Pamela: ah - how long ago was that? BobS: moved in 1994 and left the skeeters behind Judy: didn't miss them a bit Pamela: tee hee rich-c: we tend to have some lurk in the red currant bush to ambush Frances when she's picking Pamela: even Russell is concerned about them this year BobS: this west nile thing is BAD Pamela: normally, the ignore him and head straight for me Judy: me too Pamela: he actually said he was going to wear bug repellent this year rich-c: wonders will never cease Pamela: I nearly fainted Judy: the trouble is didn't they say that deet is bad for you rich-c: make sure he uses something DEET based but follows the directions Judy: now they want you to spray with it Pamela: actually what I said was "who are you, and what have you done with Russell?" Pamela: they're saying that here too Judy rich-c: DEET can cause effects that doctors think might be cause for some sort of concern - very vague BobS: DEEt in rub on form gets too big a concentration into the skin I think rich-c: what it amounts to is, it's a lot less risky than West Nile Pamela: VR news - out of Barrie and Muskoka - did an interview with the owners of the campground next to ours last week Pamela: said that normally they leave the potholes in their access road for speed control Judy: or something is going to get you, which is worse? rich-c: well, DEET products can have concentrations of 10% to 30% or more Pamela: but this year they're going to fill them in to avoid having a breeding ground for mosquitoes. Pamela: Those of us up the road are very grateful : ) rich-c: if in doubt and little protection is needed, buy the 10% solution Judy: much better for the car also!!! Pamela: gonna get my bug juice bottle - brb
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: I think that Off! spray tends to run around 10%, Muskol is 30% Pamela: okay, got my OFF! Skintastic bottle
changed username to james Pamela: Hi, James james: cool, people are still here james: hi pam. how's it going? Judy: hi, James rich-c: welcome back, james - morning going better now? BobS: AH you're back Pamela: says here Deet 7.125%, related toluamides 0.375% BobS: course, i got on just as you left james: went to the post office and sent some money to canada Pamela: oh, you sent me money James? Thank you! BobS: why, is canada broke???????? rich-c: my guess would be, Pam, if you need protection at all, that isn't enough Pamela: actually Bob ,yes Judy: should buy new, don't think we have much left BobS: and needs a loan???? james: have to pay visa, in an operation i refer to as a cashectomy james: lol james: not yet BobS: bummer, bills are abummer james: yup BobS: charge car4d company aught to give usa FREE month once in while Pamela: Yes James, Ihave one of those every month - very painful james: so did you get that auction item, bob? BobS: noe BobS: nope Pamela: are you still using Muskol Dad? james: i totally forgot. i'll have to see what it closed at BobS: would have had about 60 US in it and didn't want ot go that high BobS: closed at just under 30, but whipping would have run 30 rich-c: mostly we use Muskol, yes james: hmm.. maybe we could contact the auction winner, invite them to the chat Pamela: trouble is, I can't stand the scent of Muskol - I'll have to look and see if they have a cream or something rich-c: sometimes I prefer teh spray, sometimes I need it from the bottle BobS: could be james: see if they'd be willing to send us some detailed pics of that card Pamela: might as well moisturize while I'm at it BobS: AND tell us what it does Judy: seems they could make it without that awful smell Pamela: actually, I guess what I really need is Muskol cream with sunscreen to cover all my bases BobS: has to be a monitor port like the full ADAM has Pamela: you'd think so, wouldn't you Judy Judy: that is one reason I hate to use it BobS: looked like Orphanware but Herman and George di NOT recognize it rich-c: I believe there are issues involved in using sunscreen with bug repellant Pamela: yeah, me too - and then you have to shower it off before bed, another pain Pamela: I don't think so Dad - OFF puts one out BobS: sun. bugs, burns, bites,........HECK stay INSIDE Pamela: SPF 15 with DEET BobS: and use a tanning lamp james: it looks like a monitor port, but why make one when adam has one already Judy: hopefully most of the campgrounds will spray for them rich-c: good theory, Pam, but I doubt it's on the market Pamela: which theory Dad? rich-c: SPF/DEET BobS: the one for sale was a module 3 and used the video port of the colecovision BobS: which was ONLY the rca plug Pamela: no seriously Dad, OFF puts out a combo sunscreen with SPF 15 and bug repellent james: hmm james: interesting rich-c: really? any idea what the DEET strength is? BobS: had to go in modem slot......Doug thinks that is a pretty much stright into the bus access point BobS: straight Pamela: no, but if I had to guess, I'd say the same as the Skintastic cream at 7.125% BobS: have specs to add 5 pin din to the module 3, but have never tried it rich-c: have teh feeling the bug-off wouldn't last as long as the sunscreen Pamela: dunno, i've never tried it - SPF 15 is too light for me james: hmm.. maybe that' nltt gg bvvgvvvbb Pamela: I usually use a 30 or a 50, depending on body part james: sec Judy: what SPF do you use? james: g g james: a cz Pamela: James - is that a new language, or are you speaking Case? Judy: I like 8 rich-c: I have found that 15 is usually adequate for teh exposurs I get BobS: CASE, straighten up boy james: care to guess who's helping me type? :P rich-c: I suppose if we can make our trip this summer I may want 30 some days Pamela: HI CASE james: he's cranky. BobS: it shows Pamela: aw, poor little man james: time for a nap maybe. brgb Pamela: I have found in recent years that I burn more easily than I used to Pamela: I think it may have something to do with my meds - one of them is a steroid Pamela: therefore, I never go out with less than a 30 on if I'm going to be exposed for more than a few minutes rich-c: yes - in fact come to think of it, I think my arthrotec has an avoid sunlight caution' Judy: yes, some of mine say that it affects it but I haven't seen any problem Pamela: I even put it on before doing the bank run rich-c: I think that may be cutting it a bit thick, Pam Pamela: I'm much more sensitive than I used to be. Unprotected, I'll burn in about 20 - 30 minutes rich-c: you should give your bod at least some chance to make some vitamin D Pamela: Oh, I'm getting out there Dad, and it's not block, just screen Judy: good thing you aren't doing my project than Pamela: just takes me longer to burn that way. No likem burns, ick Pamela: what project Judy? Judy: I have been out for days on end Pamela: in the garden? BobS: the tropics Judy: we were putting in a pond Pamela: ah, that's what prompted the fish / mosquito comment as I came on Judy: it is shaping up very well already Judy: yes Pamela: how big is it, and where did you put it? Judy: 125 gallon Judy: and a 35 gallon smaller dumping in Pamela: is that swimming pool size or wading pond size? Judy: nether BobS: remember the green round spot in the yard behind the deck????? Judy: the boys are not allowed in at all BobS: tain't there anymore Pamela: vaguely Pamela: was that the only green spot? : ) BobS: about 20' in diamter Judy: it is all garden now Pamela: TWENTY FEET??? BobS: now a caribbean paradise BobS: the green grass was 20' Judy: Bob was working on the lights last night, so it is lit BobS: pool build up is 8' diameter Pamela: I was right, it's a swimming pool BobS: nope only 16" deep Judy: no Pamela: spoilsports Judy: the boys maybe thing that, but they are to stay out Pamela: you'll really need to keep an eye on the boys now Pamela: and pools are a magnet for kids Judy: all ways did here they are not used to the street Judy: so they are not out by themselves Pamela: I know you will, but just be really careful - everyone has heard the horror stories Judy: don't let them out there alone Pamela: don't take your eyes off them for a second Judy: no, I don't Judy: had Ryan today Pamela: I guess an 8' chain link fence would spoil the effect, huh? BobS: ya Judy: yes, it would Pamela: shucks BobS: thought though Pamela: so what did he think of the pool Judy? BobS: figure we will electrify the poll ..... that will keep kids out Judy: it really is nice to hear the water running Pamela: Bob, you can't poach people! Pamela: It's just not done BobS: why not, they don't belong here.....KRISPY CRITTERS Judy: he couldn't go out today, was raining Pamela: ROTFL BobS: heard of KRISPY CREMES??????? just like those onlyh different Judy: they don't put poeple in jail here you know Pamela: besides, if you do that you'll have poached raccoon, poached squirrel, poached cat etc james: back Pamela: oh lord, that really tickled my funny bone BobS: cool, that's like manifold cooking on the car engine, yes????? james: his highness is still with me Judy: do you have recipes for that, Pam Pamela: you're sick, Mr. S! BobS: TANKS Pamela: YVW
(A strange smell wafts around the room) BobS: KRISPY CRITTERS Pamela: I guess that's why they used to call it poaching, right?
(BobS hands Pamela a tissue.) BobS: yup rich-c: right - roadkill, it's not just for breakfast any more Judy: I do have a critter out there Judy: saw it last night Pamela: does it have stripes? BobS: AND have a glass of OJ with that OK????? rich-c: OK BobS: florida oj that is Judy: no, small, furry little thing didn't see it very close Pamela: ew, poached juiced OJ Pamela: probably either a squirrel or a chipmunk rich-c: our critters have black masks Pamela: we feed our critters! Pamela: James, FYI Bob is planning on poaching people in the ornamental pool Judy: it is living in the mulch james: lol BobS: when we get real fish in there we will find out IF there are nasty fish eaters around Pamela: that's what had me rolling james: i'll make it a point to be absent james: :P Pamela: it's cute actually - the chippies are very bold and will come right up your leg and sit on your knee, but the squirrels are really shy rich-c: no trolling for teh family shop? ;-] BobS: no trolling rich-c: that's OK, squirrels bite and carry rabies Pamela: I'll bring my fishing pole next time : ) BobS: do NOT give Michael nay ideas BobS: any Pamela: whatcha gonna do with the fish in the winter? Judy: not a squirrel or chippie BobS: he is spunky enough Pamela: never had a squirrel get close enough - they're too skittish Judy: either a kind of mole or whatever they call them Pamela: oh - the really little ones - they're cute Pamela: black, with really short fur? Judy: dark not sure it was black short fur Pamela: yeah, probably a mole BobS: NOT cute Pamela: but then again, I like mice too Judy: you can have him Pamela: just not in my closet BobS: KNEW there was something strange about you...... Pamela: that's just one of my secrets Bob rich-c: I thought all trailer people had a problem with mice... Judy: tried everything to get rid of it last year, with no luck Pamela: ask my Mom about our mouse adventure Judy: not us Judy: don't want them Pamela: no, we've never seen mice in ours Pamela: I think we get them in the winter but have never seen any during the season Pamela: however, we have a large cat population -that might explain it BobS: ok gang Judy's battery just died and she blew it.......so puter died....... BobS: she says BBYE BobS: and me also, tooo , in addition......... Pamela: oops - say g'bye rich-c: bye Judy and Bob, see you Sat or next week Pamela: It's that time for me too - with half a day tomorrow, I want to get in early BobS: POOF, auf wiedersehen, goot bye, etc Pamela: nite Bob BobS: OK
BobS left chat session rich-c: night, daughter, enjopy the trailer Pamela: thanks, we will - looking forward to getting away Pamela: James, say goodnight to Case for me - and good nite to you too rich-c: and if you phone and get a busy signal, send an email - I now have a 10 minute check going Pamela: okay, I will Dad james: will do Pamela: nite, Daddy rich-c: nite, Pam james: good night pam Pamela: poof!
Pamela left chat session james: so who's left? rich-c: guess we're sort of out of people, james james: looks like rich-c: pack it in, then? james: i'm around for a few more minutes but i'm going to have lunch soon and get at least one thing done todya rich-c: guess we might as well knock it off tehn; I have some stuff to wind up before bed rich-c: think you can join us next week? james: ok. i'll hopefully be around next week rich-c: right - good night, then, and take care james: you too. ttys! rich-c: bye
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