james: wow. two of me. i might as well talk to myself then
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changed username to rich-c james: :P rich-c: suspected you might be here early rich-c: cut yourself a litle slack in case of diaper runs, I guess? james: yes. i've been up since 6.30 thanks to the local sparrow infestation. i'm going to do something about it james: lol rich-c: sparrow infestation? james: yes. we live next to a dairy farm and while it wasn't a problem 5 years ago when we moved here, over the last couple of years james: the number of sparrows around here has increased dramatically james: they feed off the constant supply of cattle feed right next door rich-c: well, why is that a problem? too many roosting places on your buildings? james: yes, and they perch on the roof and in the eavestroughing and on the wires right outside the windows of the houses. james: i'm bloody tired of being woken up at 5.30 james: not to mention the mess they make rich-c: right, they can be messy and if their favourite roosts are where you walk, that can be dicey rich-c: since I feed them, we have a fairly adequate supply of birds around here at all times james: well i plan on trapping them (ordering a trap online as we speak). what i do with them afterwards i've not decided yet but "flame-broiled" comes to mind rich-c: we have house finches, weaver finches (English sparrows), a large assortment of others rich-c: don't trap them, among other things it's a waste of time and money james: what would you suggest? rich-c: make your place user-unfriendly to the extent that you can james: hmm.. never installed windows 3.1 onto my house rich-c: for instance, no local food on your premises, trees some distance from teh buildings james: :P james: yeah, i can't really move the trees and i'm stuck with the wires and eavestroughing where they are.. rich-c: if you can reroute wires (unlikely) consider it rich-c: unfortunately Japanese birds are usually varieties not known in North America james: well as far as i can tell these are your common pest english sparrows rich-c: maybe so, but as noted those aren't sparrows, and among sparrows (some of which resemble the weaver finches) there are many varieties
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: the problem is they all have somewhat different habits and so need to be dealt with differently james: that's what i've read. they're not actually sparrows at all james: but i stick by the "pest" label rich-c: if so that means that they are ground feeders
changed username to Doctor of D. james: i see them on the ground frequently
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: hello Rich james: but they're too fast for me to run and step on :P Doctor of D.: Just stopping by briefly. rich-c: OK, any particular point or just being sociable? james: il dottorio e veni Doctor of D.: Sociable...I got sidetracked by kid interrupts last week and never got back to the chat.
changed username to George rich-c: well right now james needs advice on discouraging English sparrows Doctor of D.: Tonight, though, I have mongo headache which aspirin hasn't been able to touch, so my brain literally does hurt ;-) Doctor of D.: Hmm...speak French to them? :-) james: "discouraging" lol George: Hi everyone Doctor of D.: Hi George. rich-c: hello George, didnt see you come in rich-c: are you out of hospital yet? Doctor of D.: Headache is probably stress letdown...a grant proposal to develop a WWW-based robot course finally went in today, deadline was 5:00 PM EDT. Doctor of D.: George in hospital?!? rich-c: yes, he was online from there Saturday George: i just got home Doctor of D.: Urgh, hope all is well!!! Doctor of D.: Nice hospital that gives you net.access. rich-c: yes, hoping for that when I go in! Doctor of D.: I see we have cloned Jameses. Doctor of D.: Do you know when you're going in, Richard? rich-c: he's seeing double - the sparrows keep waking him up too early ;-) james: trap and kill rich-c: no, I see about teh gall bladder on teh 26th but can't move on teh hip till that is clear and healed Doctor of D.: And no chance you'll be healed in time for ADAMcon? Sigh. rich-c: the gall bladder is only about a 90-minute laproscopy so it may come available early
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changed username to Guy B. james: rich, you're in toronto right? is there anything you could book in buffalo or is it too expensive? rich-c: well, the hip has deteriorated so that would bar travel anyway Guy B.: Greetings!!! rich-c: hello Guy Doctor of D.: Hi Guy. Doctor of D.: Rats about the hip, Richard. Guy B.: Ok folks. We got hit with storms today. Do you get them? rich-c: why pay teh American pirates for what I can get better at home for free? Doctor of D.: There's a guy from the lab I got my Ph.D. in who is going in for replacement this summer. Doctor of D.: Something in it has broken and one leg is now about an inch shorter than the other, he told me last week. Guy B.: Your having hip replacement surgery Rich? rich-c: Americans pay more for medicine, but you're more likely to come out of hospital alive in Canada Doctor of D.: His walking is very bad, now...so bad that I am surprised he doesn't just stay home until the surgery. George: i have many phone calls from friends rich-c: yes Guy, it's got to be done - my difficulty in walking is now quite severe Guy B.: Which side? rich-c: the left hip, Guy
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changed username to Pamela Guy B.: Ohhh! So, that's why you won't be able to come to the con this year. When are you having it? rich-c: hi daughter Guy B.: Hi Pam Pamela: hi Dad Pamela: Hello, all james: hi pam rich-c: Guy, first I have to have my gall bladder out and get that healed Pamela: Rich, does this means you've gotten your doctorate in Drushel? rich-c: then when the internist is satisfied I'm OK I get on the lsit for teh big jub Doctor of D.: Hello Pam. Pamela: then he gets his internal spell checker fixed! rich-c: guess is late July for teh gall bladder, late Octber for teh hip - but it's a guess james: is "teh" a new word :P Pamela: ahhh Doctor of D.: Doctor of Dementia. Headache is splitting... Pamela: where's it splitting for? james: heh heh. probably his neck, pam Doctor of D.: Richard picked up that spelling from Herman, he used it all the time in chat on his BBS. Doctor of D.: :-) rich-c: our situation is complicated because with coping with the SARS epidemic all our hospital schedules have been messed up Pamela: I always knew Herman was catching! Guy B.: That's right. You did mentioned that last week. Then the hip replacement surgery will follow once you are all healed up. That's quite a lot for you coming up. Pamela: yes, the senior Clees seem to be having an "annus horribilus" rich-c: oh, the lastest is physio for whiplash from our collision Friday night Doctor of D.: ?????????????????????? Guy B.: WHO lifted the travel ban to Taiwan and Hong Kong recently, but China still on the travel ban list. rich-c: got slammed by a flying Acura - which was launched into us by a racing Mazda 929
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changed username to BobS Pamela: you can say that again Guy Pamela: Hi, Bob Guy B.: Hi James Doctor of D.: Jeepers, are you two okay???????? rich-c: I had some other words, Guy BobS: HEY DER Guy B.: Hi Bob rich-c: Hi Bob james: hi guy, how's it going? BobS: YO Pamela: most of them unprintable
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: yes, Frances' neck seems almost back to normal and the head bump has gone away
changed username to Judy Doctor of D.: DER WHAT, DER BOB? Guy B.: Don't even want to know and I don't blame you for saying them. Pamela: Hi, Judy Guy B.: Hi Judy BobS: WHAt happened to her????? George: i'd like to take a nice trip to my front porch Judy: hi, everyone Doctor of D.: You were in the van, Richard? Hopefully not the Meteor... Pamela: Mom and Dad had a car accident on Friday night Bob - they were rear ended Guy B.: Bob, my last payment will be made around the 4th of July weekend. rich-c: well she was tossed backwards - both our seats were twisted - and she hit the B pillar with her head Doctor of D.: Though maybe the Meteor would be better protection... BobS: OUCH George: Hi Judy Judy: not cool Doctor of D.: Seat belts? Pamela: of course! Can you see Dad going anywhere without a seatbelt? rich-c: it's an interesting question, both vehicles are about teh same size and weight Pamela: He won't even move the car out of the garage without one Doctor of D.: Good Re: belts...but which vehicle was it? Pamela: the van Guy B.: The important thing is both of you are alright George: i should say Hi new group BobS: OH MAN, after gettting a new motor and all?????? rich-c: yes, and the shop says the van should be repairable Pamela: I floated the possibility of having the van exorcised Doctor of D.: They would have totalled the Meteor right out, and good luck getting it repaired. BobS: well a t least taht is a consolation Judy: can it be fixed Doctor of D.: Your van is newer, hopefully can be fixed. rich-c: the frame is bent, but the shop has teh tools and has straightened out worse Guy B.: Jeanene and I went to Gurnee Mills Outlet Mall today. Spent 5 hours there and then spent an hour and a half trying to get home on the tollway. Judy: so how is Jeanene? rich-c: oddly enough, even though the rear bumper is destroyed, the panel behind and doors are unscathed Doctor of D.: Man, and I was mad Saturday when Joan backed the Caravan off the driveway and down the hill into the wet back yard, so I had to get a tow truck to winch it back up... Doctor of D.: I will count my blessings. Doctor of D.: Nobody hurt in that. BobS: well jsut get a new bumper !!!! Guy B.: She's doing Ok. She's going to have surgery on July 10th. Her eardrum is going to be reconstructed in her right ear. Pamela: I think you can attribute that to the fact that the vehicle that hit you was a low-rider, Dad rich-c: yes, and Frances and I were the only ones not significantly injured in our crash Judy: what is the matter with her ear? BobS: other people were hurt rather badly???? Judy: how many cars were involved, Rich? Guy B.: She has a hole in the eardrum from an infection that took over a month to get rid of and it caused a 50% hearing loss. rich-c: I don't think the Acura was a low-rider, Pam Doctor of D.: Sounds like demolition derby... Pamela: vs the van, almost anything is a low-riding vehicle Dad BobS: BUt the Acura is a whole lower closer to the ground that a mini van rich-c: essentially, I was just about halfway into a left turn on an advance green rich-c: the Acura was behind me ready to move BobS: and they tried to move you eh? rich-c: the Mazda 969 came racing up and ploughed into the Acura rich-c: it got launched halfway across the intersection into me BobS: OUCH Guy B.: The good news is the surgeon is the same doctor that did my Cochlear Implant 13 years ago and is one of the best at Loyola University Medical Center. rich-c: the Mazda recoiled back more than its own length and settled on the median Judy: that is good, Guy, tell her we will be thinking of her Pamela: neither of the people in the Mazda were wearing seatbelts rich-c: the two young folk in teh Acura were badly shaken up but not sriously hurt Guy B.: I will. She may even go home the same day of the surgery if everything goes well. rich-c: the instigators wren't wearing seatbelts and were thoroughly bashed up, but not fatally Pamela: Dad have you heard anything further from the police about the sobriety of the driver of the Mazda? Doctor of D.: Hope they are insured... BobS: and the age of these hullagans????? rich-c: good for Jeanene, Guy, do tell her all of our good wishes are with her Judy: we didn't have a very good day today, went to court for sentencing, and at the time it was supposed to start they cancelled it Guy B.: I wonder how fast they were when that Acura hit you. Doctor of D.: Why cancelled? BobS: slime ball lawyer rich-c: witnesses say the Mazda was doing at least 55 (in a 30 zone) had just run a red light, and didn't brake Judy: don't really know, said the judge didn't decide yet what to do with him Judy: either jail or prison rich-c: the driver had no licence with her and it wasnt her car Guy B.: Oh my gosh. I wonder if they were drunk. You think? rich-c: the passenger may have been the car ownder but wasnt responding to questions rich-c: they appeared to be both middle-aged Chinese Judy: didn't speak good english? Pamela: Dad, are those numbers kms or mph? rich-c: the police had no breathalyzer or blood test evidence Doctor of D.: I imagine MPH. rich-c: correct, Dr. D. - I translate for Americans ;_0 rich-c: sorry if I confuse you as a result, james Pamela: I thought so - - we don't have any 30kmh zones around Doctor of D.: New speed trap :-) Guy B.: Boy, drivers today are becoming more irresponsible than we are. Chicago put up cameras at two of the most dangerous intersections to try to catch drivers going through red lights and they recorded 4800 of them during a 2 month period. rich-c: anyway I didnt talk with any of the others involved Pamela: no, they don't get lower than 40 kph in the city rich-c: the police treated it as a major accident for full investigation rich-c: which means they carefull encouraged everyone to stay apart Pamela: for fear of non vehicular homicide, no doubt : ) rich-c: the information I have is from the police investigator and his formal report rich-c: I confess I was tempted to shove the offenders head through the windshield again just for luck ;-) Guy B.: You should of. Pamela: gee Dad, I can't imagine why . . . : ) rich-c: well, I was kind of shook up and not thinking too clearly, Guy Pamela: how long did it take the police to arrive Dad Doctor of D.: I'm going to go lie down...head feels like it went through a windshield...sorry for not getting back to last week's chat after all my kid interrupts. rich-c: seemed like hours, likely under five minutes Pamela: s'alright Rich. Take to Tylenol 3's and call yourself in the morning rich-c: there was spillage on teh road under the Acura so the fire department was called Doctor of D.: Starbase Cleveland closing hailing frequencies...(no Tylenol 3s in this Sickbay)... rich-c: they arrived more or less with police escort Doctor of D.: <poof>
Doctor of D. left chat session rich-c: additional cops including teh plain-wrapper investigator and three ambulance arrived after Guy B.: Well, it's a good thing that you decided not to. Pamela: did one of the witnesses call it in? rich-c: I sort of gathered at least a dozen folks had their cellphones dialling before the cars had stiopped moving Pamela: guess so Guy B.: At least there witnesses to account what they saw. Pamela: totally off topic for a bit of levity, I now have a bug in the computer - I just killed a moth and it landed in the keyboard rich-c: yes, at least five, all willing, and all thier accounts matched Guy B.: If you have a pair of tweezers, see if you can get it out with them. Pamela: it Guy B.: You have more than one? rich-c: I assume you know the story of the original computer bug, Pam? Pamela: 's really small and fell between the alt and windows keys - I'll fish it out later Pamela: yes I do Dad, which is what made me bring it up BobS: just tip the laptop unside down and shake a littel rich-c: a vacuum cleaner with teh mini attachments is great for that Guy B.: I remember a question on a game show on that. Pamela: actually, it was the winning question for the first "Who wants to be a millionaire" winner Guy B.: Yep, that's it. james: moth james: or something, wasn't it? BobS: no, think it was a "rugRAT" Pamela: yes
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changed username to Ronald Guy B.: Hi Ron Pamela: sorry folks, didn't mean to interrupt but thought everyone would appreciate that Pamela: HI, Ron james: lol Ronald: hello BobS: Ronald.........howdy rich-c: g'day, Ron BobS: sent ya an email tonight, get it????? james: *ducks and covers* Ronald: trust all are well BobS: you didn't interupt us Pam, we don't carrya train of thought well anyway Ronald: train of thoiught? james: we will be when the local sparrow infestation is eliminated Pamela: well the intention was not to derail . . . Ronald: whoa!!! rich-c: just telling everyone about our collision, Ron BobS: whats a train??????? BobS: shoot the suckers james Ronald: ooh rich-c: Frances and I and the truck are expected to survive Pamela: okay Bob -picture this - steel rails, big steel engine pulling lotsa stuff behind it . . . are you getting a glimmer? BobS: so THAT is what that beight light I was running for is........ BobS: bright rich-c: like us old folks used to get around in olden times, Bob james: should buy an air gun james: or a flame thrower Pamela: exactly - if there's light at the end of the tunnel, it's usually attached to a train Ronald: Always remember..... that the light at the end of the tunnel BobS: aw shucks......better start running REAL fast da other way. eh? Ronald: may be attached to an oncoming train Pamela: or get real skinny : ) rich-c: Pam, Argo game tomorrow night - you taping for Russell? Pamela: how infested are you James? BobS: can you sasy SMUSH, liek as into the wall surface????? Judy: don't think you can get that small that quick Ronald: Had all the windows on the upper floor replaced today Ronald: Now the windows on the lower floor look like hell rich-c: what was that about, ron? Pamela: dunno Dad, he hasn't mentioned it. I assume he'll tape it if he wants to see it Pamela: why, do you want it taped? Ronald: Mommy is on a campaign rich-c: no, I'll be watching it rich-c: you could bring a returnable tape and tape while I'm watching Pamela: 'kay. I'll find out in the a.m. james: not sure on actualy numbers, (the only number i'm sure of is the 5:30 my clock shows when they wake me up) but far, far more than a couple of years ago rich-c: long as you gt here by 7, Pam, it'll be OK for that Pamela: I doubt I'll be anywhere near that late Dad - I plan to leave work at 4:30 or so tomorrow rich-c: (famous last words) Guy B.: Well, since we are mentioning medical stuff. I'm going to have an ultra sound on my right leg tomorrow afternoon. Pamela: but we can tape it at home - all my Thursday shows are on hiatus rich-c: what's the ultrasound for, Guy? Pamela: well you know what they say about the road to hell . . . Judy: what is wrong with it Guy? Pamela: why Guy? Guy B.: Well, I have been having painful cramping behind the right knee. My doctor did feel something, but she's hoping it's not a blood clot. So, that's what the ultrasound is for. BobS: hope it all comes out good and it is nothing to worry about Pamela: you have a female doctor? Good for you rich-c: cramping would be an unusual symptom for a blood clot, I'd think Pamela: does she have any reason to suspect a clot? Guy B.: Yes, I do and she's 7 months pregnant too. Pamela: wow, bending must a challenge for her right now Pamela: can you lift your leg that high? Judy: it is the pits to get old, medically that is, always something wrong rich-c: guess you better not get seriously sick for the next several months then, Guy Guy B.: She's sitting down while evaluating all her patients. Ronald: agreed Judy Ronald: whatever doesn't hurt doesn't work Pamela: I heard that somewhere Guy B.: Well, this has been going on too long and finally going to find out what's going on. rich-c: cramps in my experience seem to have more to do with water balance Judy: that is for sure rich-c: but then they dont take up residence behind the knee, either Pamela: or low potassium I believe Judy: Bob goes back to the heart doctor Friday, hopefully we will get some answers Guy B.: Well, one thing I have to do is get more weight down, my blood pressure is a little high and she wants to recheck it before I fly out to Comox. rich-c: oh dear - what's with the ticker, Bob? Ronald: Did ya get my list Bob? Pamela: HEART DOCTOR??? Judy: he is in Afib all the time Pamela: translation please Guy B.: Is his heart racing? Judy: don't know if that is how it is spelled Pamela: fibrillation? rich-c: a fibrillation problem? arrythmia? Judy: no, not beating in sink Guy B.: Irregular heartbeat. Ronald: He's had that condition for a while hasn't he Judy? Judy: top and bottom are not going together Judy: yes, but we didn't know that it was doing this Pamela: so what tipped you off? rich-c: a mutter, a murmur, or more serious then Judy: was hot and tried Judy: sweats something awful Pamela: that sounds like a job for a pacemaker, isn't it? rich-c: at a guess I'd wonder if there's a lifestyle issue involved - if so it should be easily managable BobS: 'BAM, got zapped....... Judy: we don't know, they are talking about shocking it but first he had to thin the blood Ronald: we been talking about ya Bob rich-c: right - coumadin, then revision then call it, right? Judy: he has been working on that , blood taken at least once a week some three BobS: i know BobS: like i was NOT even here Pamela: vampires, I'm convinced Ronald: but you are, I know Judy: yes, taht is what he is taking along with blood pressure pill to reduce his blood pressure Guy B.: Abby's been happy this week. Been home for vacation this week. Pamela: seems like the whole world has hypertension rich-c: right, couple of guys on my pet bulletin board were talking about that a day or two ago Pamela: the problem with that is Guy, she'll be really disappointed when you go back to work Ronald: growing old is not for sissies rich-c: funny you should say, Ron... Judy: very true, Ron Pamela: I think an old sissy is a contradiction in terms Ronald: :) Pamela: unless you're talking about your spinster sibling Ronald: mmmm Guy B.: Exactly. But, there's a little bit of good news. Jeanene's planning to come over during the afternoon and will bring her out to the backyard while she's catching some rays. She brought her resin lounge chair over here. Pamela: isn't the English language wonderful? rich-c: that sounds like it should work out well for both of them Guy Pamela: you have a backyard? That you can use? I'm jealous Ronald: is there such a thing as a spinster any more? Pamela: technically, yes - an unmarried woman is a spinster Pamela: just as an unmarried man is a bachelor rich-c: well, however outmoded, I believe there is still a use in legal terminology Ronald: are we in the day and age where people are allowed to either marry or not marry? rich-c: that does seem to be teh case Guy B.: Abby gets to spend time outside. Last night we saw a half dozen baby bunnies in the backyard when we went out for a walk. And the mother was watching us. Pamela: However, it has much more negative connotations Pamela: I'll bet she was, Guy Ronald: yeah, like dried up old prune (excuse me..... !!!)\ rich-c: bunnies get ral nervous when dogs are in the vicinity Pamela: exactly Ron Guy B.: We just left them alone. When we came back, they left. Pamela: technically, I'm a spinster Guy B.: They were cute though. Ronald: so I better watch my choice of phraseology eh? rich-c: oh yes, baby rabbits practically define cute Pamela: well, only technically - I guess it depends which part of the government you talk to . CCRA considers me to be a common-law wife. The public trustee on the other hand, doesn't recognize commonlaw relationships Ronald: interesting Judy: not when the bunnies are eating your flowers rich-c: you expect one government hand to know what the other is doing? Ronald: we have deer doing that Ronald: I think they figure we plant flowers for their benefit rich-c: deer are much more efficient than rabbits at flower eating Pamela: Found that out recently - if you or your commonlaw spouse die intestate, the trustee's office will deal with distributing your estate without regard for your spouse's wishes Ronald: ya got that right Pamela: No I don't Dad - too many hands in the pot! Ronald: this is not good Pamela
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changed username to zonker rich-c: remember watching a herd of deer stroll down the main street at Waterton Lakes - noy a flower left after they passed
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changed username to FredK Guy B.: Whoa! Look who's here. Hey Zonker Ronald: hi zonk zonker: yo! FredK: Hi all Pamela: Hi, Freddy Guy B.: Hi Fred FredK: Hi Pamy FredK: sorry Pamelaà Ronald: we got a room full tonite Pamela: ok, sorry : ( rich-c: hey, Zonker and Freddy -0 bienvenue and welcome Guy B.: What have you been up to Zonker? George: hi Feddy zonker: finding the chat room is what i've been up to.... rich-c: Fred, Zonker is a real old-time Adam user in Seattle Pamela: touche, Fred zonker: odd as it sounds, you can do a search of adam news network,etc. Guy B.: You found it! Judy: they had a small deer jump in the post office downtown Grand Rapids yesterday FredK: hehe Guy B.: My website has a link to it too. zonker: just what do you mean by "old time", old timer? :) rich-c: Zonker, Fred is a new recruit in Quebec- first language French so be patient BobS: old. as in ancient Pamela: sorry, Fred, couldn't find my accent ague FredK: Hey any language will do fine.. zonker: me, i'm always patient, hell english is a second language to ME. Judy: hi, Zonk!!!! Guy B.: There you go folks! FredK: lol BobS: HEY Zonk rich-c: like, we still remember when computers had tubes, Zonk ;-) zonker: yo, sopSEma....you get my check or what???? BobS: ya mon Pamela: tubes? computers had tubes??? no one told me this . . . BobS: got it, cashed it, put it thru a second time just to make sure it was good Guy B.: Hey he's coming. All right!! George: I need to go, I can't stay awake rich-c: you were too young, Pam... Guy B.: Ok, George. Will see you next week Judy: bye George Pamela: Good decision George - sleep is good ( or so they tell me). Sleep well. BobS: and ti BOUNCED that time too zonker: cash it and all? he-he-he FredK: bye George George: nite all rich-c: take it easy George, see you Sat or next week Pamela: sheesh Dad, someone's always telling me that! zonker: sorry gk didn't mean to put ya to sleep! FredK: what! George: ok, poof
George left chat session Guy B.: ZOnker, that's not GK. Ronald: not gk zonker.... 'tis another George BobS: Fred, when did you sneak in????? zonker: ooops, i gotta keep up with this chat community....will put my foot in the wrong mouth. FredK: few mins ago..
(Guy B. throws a hot potato at zonker.) zonker: bob put yer glasses on...sheesh. rich-c: you managed to come aboard without us getting an "undefined" zonker: ow....quit throwin BobS: ok.......how's the wife, kids and grandkids???????? Pamela: we did get one Dad, you just weren't watching FredK: so you know who i am then? zonker: er quit throwin' taters at me. rich-c: no, that was Zonker's , Pam Guy B.: Just toss them back. james: anyone here know what it costs in canada or the u.s. to pave? james: ie, per square foot or square metre? FredK: asphalt? james: yes rich-c: to pave what? zonker: pave what? Pamela: no, I should say we got two - pay attention BobS: nope Guy B.: Good question. BobS: bout the same cost here as a concrete drive though Ronald: million dollars a mile james: ok, and what does that cost? Ronald: for a superhighway BobS: how's about $2/sq ft........???? Pamela: I'm so mad Zonker - you're gonna be at this convention and I can't go - am I ever going to meet you? zonker: we got two pay attention? shouldn't that be "to" james: ok, i'm talking residential driveways/parking Guy B.: Asphalt would be more expensive than concrete. Depends on how much you have to pave. zonker: course that's a million CANADIAN Ronald: Pamela, trust me, you haven't lived until you've met Zonker Pamela: you were saying about English, Zonker? james: yeah, a million canadian is more than it used to be :P Ronald: yes james: $2 per square foot, is that a real estimate bog? FredK: 3000CAD about for 20by 10ft i guess..... james: i mean bob zonker: my second language, pamela.....or maybe 3rd, i'm slipping fast. BobS: clear as i remember here in Michigan rich-c: that seems a bit high, Fred - are you sure? Pamela: I can't believe I'm going to miss you - again BobS: ]haven't had any done in a while FredK: not positive but approx only zonker: jeez, it's hard fer my old eyes to keep up, could you all type slower? james: ok.. just converting $2 us per sq ft to yen per sq meter zonker: pamela, why you not go to comox eh? Pamela: no dinero, Zonk rich-c: I realize that paving that has to survive Quebec winters is a lot more expensive than in, say, Japan Ronald: you mean you're actually reading this stuff zonk? zonker: no, bog is right. FredK: lol rich james: lol Ronald: not good for the head ya know Pamela: I owe pieces of my hide to a lot of people at teh moment james: might as well log in as "bog" next week eh? Pamela: darn, there's that new word again zonker: let us know how that works out, james. Guy B.: Zonker, need some refresher course on the Adam Emulator utilities? I'm planning to do one. zonker: heck,pamela, make the old man fork over, i hear he's rolling in it.
BobS changed username to BOG Ronald: Can I put ya down for that Guy? Pamela: well I keep hearing rumours . . . FredK: so did bananarama Pamela: but, they're spending my inheritance Guy B.: Thought you already have. Ronald: Zonker is going to do a session on the mystery of disappearing ADAMites Pamela: yeah, but that was about you having a broken heart Fred james: disappearing adamites? BOG: not either, they may not go to AC15 at all and SAVE your inheritence FredK: lol rich-c: good, let's see how many he can turn up! james: lol Ronald: exactly zonker: darn rich always WAS a cheap so and so, but i guess you know better than us.... zonker: hey, bog, where ya been? Guy B.: He should attract those who couldn't come in past cons. Pamela: well hey, they're one of the people I owe a piece of my hide to BOG: down by the sea rich-c: well, I can't come myself, Zonk Pamela: where the watermelon grow james: ok, worked it out. i'm gonna try and talk my guy down about $5 / square meter zonker: what??? no rich clee!?!? explain yourself, young man. Judy: he is looking for a cruise for us to go on this winter james: i'd really, really like to make it to a con Guy B.: He's got a good reason Zonk james: vancouver was such a good bid for me too.. rich-c: two surgeries scheduled a.s.a.p. though that means well into fall james: i suppose bog's neck of the woods would be doable if i could work in a family trip to ottawa at the same time zonker: sorry to hear that rich....not anything major i hope? or don't tell me if it is none of my beeswax. BOG: sure would rich-c: gall bladdder (minor) and hip replacement (major), Zonk BOG: got rocks and busted hip ...hit by one of thme rocks Judy: do you have any dates for the surgery yet, Rich zonker: bog, if there is no rich clee at adamcon, can i get my money back? :) Pamela: It's an easy trip from T.O. James - four hours to Windsor, another two to GR (once you get past the scary border guards) FredK: not a degree either... BOG: nope BOG: bank won't give refunds rich-c: no, since the second is dependent on the first Pamela: I still say have them do it all at the same time Dad zonker: OUR scary border gaurds?!?!?! :0 james: are the canadian guards scarier, zonker? Pamela: no way, James Guy B.: Zonker, you have four Slopsemas, me, the Mighty Mitchell, Dale and Neil Wick and whoever else is coming. Ronald: they don't call it the Peace Arch for nothing eh Ronald: They take a Peace of you on the way thru rich-c: sure - the Canadians won't bother you, it just may be hard to get back home zonker: when do you go in for the first,then? sorry, this is directed to rich.... Ronald: when I think of the carload of junk I went to Seattle with Ronald: I'd still be in jail down there somewhere today] Pamela: boggles the mind in this post Sept. 11th era, doesn't it Ron? rich-c: not sure - the hospital is still tidying up after the SARS disruption so scheduling is all shot to hell Ronald: fer sure zonker: no all your border gaurds are dressed like mounties, right? :) Pamela: we should be so lucky Zonk Ronald: a myth zonk rich-c: anyway, aren't we going to get Fred to organize the next 'con in Montreal? james: lol. i think that was tongue-in-cheek Ronald: not even the mounties dress like mounties any more zonker: oh YEAH...how IS rhe sars situation up there? last i heard, it was hurting tourism.... FredK: Are you areyou are you? james: montreal is nice in the summer rich-c: not us, Fred, you - you organize, we come! Ronald: I'd go to Montreal james: well unless you guys wanna have it here ;P Pamela: un petit problem - most of the Yanks don't speak the lingo FredK: That would be great! zonker: oh that's right....disney has the rights to mounty uniforms, no? wierd world.... rich-c: we're North American central for SARS, james, and it has killed tourism Ronald: something like that zonker Ronald: seem to recall reading about it rich-c: even the library convention has a third cancellations, and they are intelligent people who should know better zonker: most yanks cant speak english.... Ronald: neither can we Pamela: so asking them to speak french should be pas de problem, right? james: montreal? i was hard pressed to find people who speak french the last time i went BOG: roight mater BOG: matey FredK: rich tell me when? zonker: eh? que pas? rich-c: well, it's the organizer's choice, Fred BOG: spechen sie deutch?????? Pamela: oh good, bling zonker: was in montreal for a total of one day and seemed like a very nice place to me....no rude french speaking snots or anything? :) Ronald: brb Judy: here we go again rich-c: you just have to find an accomodating hotel and a time that's nice but priced right james: nah, they're all in paris ;P FredK: ich sprech aba schlecht schrieben !!! BOG: ya know american english...or canadian english????? james: yeah, there's such a collasal difference between the two zonker: no, british english BOG: dont' push it Fred, can't remember taht much from 35+ yrs ago zonker: or english british FredK: LOL Pamela: talk about foreign languages! james: met a guy from england, honestly, i had trouble understanding the jolly bloke Guy B.: Be right back.
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: actually in Montreal we all speak Franglais ;-) Guy B.: Ok, back. Ran out of log space. james: yeah, same as ottawa zonker: why are guy and ronald leaving us? are they having some sort of meeting behind our backs? FredK: that right zonker: why do they hate me? FredK: you see zonker: why won't they talk to me? zonker: can i get my money back? Guy B.: Hey ZOnker. We are here, aren't we? Pamela: no refund, no exchange Zonk Pamela: you're here Guy Pamela: Ron, he's on another plane altogether
(Guy B. hugs zonker) zonker: yeah, but you are all laughing and pointing at me and i wish you'd stop. Pamela: awwww Guy B.: Just to show we care. rich-c: yeah, and teh plane he's on is a Ford Tri-Motor BOG: dis convention $$$ is like dis.....NO DEPOSIT, NO REFUND....tis not like a pop bottle zonker: ron's on a plane? Pamela: what, we can't laugh at your jokes? That's no fun BOG: why is ron on a plane?????? zonker: i haven't made any jokes since logging on. you sick so an so! rich-c: well, Pam said he's on a different plane just now... FredK: ask Lisa Loeb zonker: i think ron is having second thoughts about us coming to comox. BOG: tis true and i am dulely chastized I am......BOO HOO Ronald: eh? FredK: lol BOG: tough!!!! he has the hotel reserved rich-c: spoken like a true Canadian, Ron Pamela: ROTFL zonker: fred! boooo! BOG: AND mum wants to meet ALL of us FredK: lol Ronald: no- had to check water going into swimming pool Ronald: see if it had overflowed yet BOG: gonna have pool party come august are we?????? rich-c: why? afraid the carp will escape? zonker: my, they pay them civil servants WELL in canda!
BOG changed username to Roberto Ronald: considering that..... so much around here depends on the weather Judy: the pond is close to over flowing after the rain we had this afternoon Guy B.: Well, our friend Roberto has returned. Roberto: that's why it is called "the wet coast", eh???? zonker: hey! what con was it were people were jumping in the pool? 5 in utah? Roberto: si senor Pamela: ah Bob, es muy mas bien Roberto: isch bin here Roberto: yavool Roberto: dat too james: case is asleep. i think he has the right idea. time for a nap Ronald: yea FredK: Das ist ben ben gut Ronald: case is smart Pamela: Case is no dummy rich-c: right, with one that young you don't pass up an opportunity zonker: who is case? james: smarter than his old man anyway james: my son zonker: what a strong name! Pamela: James' son FredK: lol james: here's a recent pic james: http://www.folkwolf.net/~james/case-0514-01.jpg Ronald: case and jeffie....the youngest adamites zonker: what time IS it in japan? your 14 hours ahead of us west coast no? rich-c: he's already been on sending messages to Fred's daughter, but she's not watching james: yeah, it's going on for noon here Ronald: Thurs eh? james: yeah. Pamela: sorry, I've got him reserved for Megan james: lol zonker: jeeez, that is SO wierd. it's like your from THE FUTURE Ronald: where James is, we're yesterday james: i was thinking i'd let him pick out his own Pamela: how very Canadian of you James james: hate to burst any of cupid's bubbles rich-c: Fred assures me Meganne is a real doll zonker: brb, beer break. FredK: she is rich a real little doll until..... Ronald: I'm on 7-up tonight Pamela: Fred, your daughter is Meganne too? Pamela: what Ron, no Diet Coke? I'm shocked FredK: yup! yours too? james: ok, i've got to take a nap or i'll be non-functional this evening to teach. then i'm going to figure out the best way to kill all these stupid little birds Ronald: a change is as good as a rest Pamela: No, my girlfriend's daughter (my "niece") is Megan FredK: Arrigato James-san! rich-c: night, james Pamela: Nitey nite James. james: hate stupid little birds FredK: cool Pamela! Ronald: Case DeCarlo Guy B.: Bye James james: bye all. i may be back in an hour if you're still chatting Ronald: that's gonna have a real nice ring to it Pamela: James, what's his middle name? Judy: night James james: doesn't have one Pamela: ok Pamela: you can sleep now Ronald: Hollywood, here we come james: heh heh. see you all soon! Ronald: nite James james: *poof* (and aplogies to zonker for an apparent copyright violation) :P FredK: cya
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changed username to bair FredK: Hey gotta jet too, take care all and good night! Pamela: Fred, I have no siblings, so the only way I am getting nieces and nephews is by proxy -hence, Katherine has assured me that she'll loan me her offspring whenever I need a set Roberto: mr bair!!!! Ronald: nite Fred Ronald: be well Roberto: welcome back son Judy: hi, Bair Roberto: nite Frdd
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu FredK: LOL Guy B.: Bye Fred rich-c: night Fred, see you next week Judy: night Fred Daniel Bienvenu: Hello! Ronald: Mr. Bair . How are thee Pamela: Hi, Daniel Guy B.: Hi Daniel, you made it. Daniel Bienvenu: I,m late... I know! Roberto: khiya daniel FredK: poof
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Roberto changed username to BobS Guy B.: Happy Birthday! Ronald: Think just about everyone has dropped in tonite..... 'cept Dr. D Pamela: oh, while I think of it, I'll be absent for the next two weeks zonker: back rich-c: bonne fete BobS: happy birthday to you.......happy birthday to ayou....... Daniel Bienvenu: I was born in 1975, 18th juin. Guy B.: He was here earlier Ron. bair: fair Pamela: Daniel, bon anniversaire Judy: happy birthday Daniel Ronald: Happy birthday to you BobS: the good doctor WAS here Ronald before you zonker: hey! is that bob bair? Daniel Bienvenu: rich: how are you? feel better? Ronald: Bonne fete a toi Daniel Bienvenu: thank you everyone! bair: yea rich-c: so your ten years younger than Pamela, less eight days Pamela: 'xactly zonker: bob aint' seen you in a coons age, as we hoosiers say. Ronald: Life goes on despite our best attempts to prevent it Pamela: Daniel, my birthday is next Thursday bair: yea been a while rich-c: carrying on, Daniel, thank you Daniel Bienvenu: For my birthday, I've done a little colecovision demo with 4 games... only 8K rom. rich-c: we wre just telling Fred we're counting on him to organize Adamcon 16 in Montreal nest year zonker: pamela, doesn't yer daddy know it ain't polite to give away a ladies age? Daniel Bienvenu: Fred: C'est vrai? tu organise le adamcon à Montréal? Ronald: Yes....we could rent the big Owe Daniel Bienvenu: err.. Fred is not online... Ronald: nobody else will be using it Pamela: I guess I didn't protest enough when I was younger rich-c: Fred left just as you came in, Daniel Guy B.: Well folks. Getting tired, been a long day and even a bigger day tomorrow. I'll see how Saturday goes, otherwise see you all next week. rich-c: but he seemd receptive to the idea Daniel Bienvenu: it was my birthday. i was with my friends and my familly today. Ronald: be well Guy. Gonna put ya on the presenters list zonker: bye guy rich-c: it started as a tease but he seemd to like the idea Judy: night Guy Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Guy Pamela: besides, I don't plan to grow up, Zonk Guy B.: Thanks ROn. Good to see you Zonker. BobS: be good guy and don't work TOO hard Pamela: g'nite Guy - see you in three weeks when I'm back Ronald: All these people are 3 hours late Zonk.....they got no idea what time it is rich-c: nite, Guy, will look for you Guy B.: Ok Pam Guy B.: Bye! Poof
Guy B. left chat session BobS: where going Pam?????? Judy: where are you off to, Pam Daniel Bienvenu: Someone here had a commodore vic-20 in the past? Ronald: yes???? zonker: hell, ron 8 oclock is late for ME :) Pamela: next week - belated Mother's day with my mom-in-law and combined with my birthday dinner. The week after that, we're at the trailer on vacation rich-c: I still have one I think - it may even work Ronald: oh..... Daniel Bienvenu: My Commodore vic-20 burned when i was 18 years old. Pamela: we'll see about the 2nd - we'll have the laptop so maybe I'll log in Daniel Bienvenu: The power supply "overheat?" rich-c: use one of the nickel-a-minute 10-10 numbers, Pam Pamela: Dad, is there anything I need to remember to bring tomorrow besides the ribbon? rich-c: not that I can think of, Pam Pamela: okay rich-c: your mother can't think of anything either BobS: we will be gone NEXT week, but back for the 2nd of july Daniel Bienvenu: My new colecovision demo with 4 games is based on the games in the Vic-20 user's manual. If you had a commodore vic-20, you may know what i'm talking about. zonker: well, you old people need your rest, so i think i'm gonna bail Pamela: (note to self: make more lists!) Ronald: Yeah...I gotta go hang living room drapes for mother rich-c: great to have you in, Zonker, come back soon and a lot more often Ronald: she was on my case earlier BobS: and it IS bedtime out there,,,,,it is 8PM....... zonker: good to see you all and hope to see some of you in a coupla months. Pamela: Zonker, I'm glad you came by BobS: see ya zonk Ronald: I'll drink to that Pamela Pamela: I'm really sorry I won't get to meet you this year Judy: and hopefully we will have some news on the sentencing , that is when it is supposed to be Ronald: good to see zonker again zonker: don't hang your mother for living room drapes. Ronald: mind you , he's as ugly as he ever was zonker: 5 zonker: 4 zonker: 3 zonker: 2 zonker: 1 Ronald: gone Pamela: bnye
zonker left chat session BobS: so....how is the Daniel Bienvenu: Someone here want to try my new colecovision demo games i've done for my birthday? BobS: Bair and Ronald: well people, I must get to work..... BobS: Virginian coming along???? rich-c: anyway, Danile, the general opinion is that an Adamcon in la belle province would be very welcome Ronald: much swearing and grunting ensues BobS: kkinda goofed up ther eh???? BobS: got to quit hitting the rnter key Pamela: good luck Ron Ronald: tks...I'm gonna need it....nite all bair: still pretty hard yet rich-c: take it easy, Ron Pamela: nite Daniel Bienvenu: "la belle province" yes, we called it that way
Ronald left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit! BobS: can imagine, but not really till it has happened,.,.......just remember we are thinking of you and stay strong for each other Bob Pamela: I'm away as well folks - still have lists to make, packing to do and sleep to get eventually bair: thank you rich-c: it sure isn't going to be easy ever Bob, but the acute pain will subside after a while Pamela: Mr. Bair, take care of yourself - I'll stick around a little longer next time BobS: poor ol' ron just keeps on working even in his retirement years......... Judy: night pam, have a good vacation rich-c: hang in there and be brave, Bob - we are here for you BobS: kPAMELA....behave your own self, eh?????? rich-c: nite daughter Pamela: I'm too busy to get into trouble! Pamela: Daniel, bonne nuit Daniel Bienvenu: i'm not in the mailing list adamcon but do you think i can post my ROM. bair: hay bob there is 1622.44 Pamela: Dad, I'll see you tomorrow - if I'm going to be late I'll call BobS: ok will write that down rich-c: I believe so, Daniel - do you have the address? Pamela: goodnite, all Daniel Bienvenu: oops, i forget the address Pamela: poof!
Pamela left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Pamela! rich-c: get ready to cut and paste then, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I'm ready rich-c: email@example.com Daniel Bienvenu: ok! rich-c: to join the list, send an email with the subject "subscribe" to coladam-admin@ (etc.) BobS: I think I know that list........:-) BobS: and hope Dale is awake and adds you to the list soon rich-c: some year if Dale gets around to it you will be added BobS: well troups, we both of us, must "away" and head for the sack.......... Daniel Bienvenu: I already do this subscribe in the past... rich-c: right Bob, Judy, you've been having a pretty stressful time so take care rich-c: gi e it another try, Daniel, Dale is awfully slow BobS: SO, be good, have fun but STAY SAFE........ BobS: we'uns will see ya'll in 2 weeks rich-c: amen and likewise, Bob
BobS left chat session rich-c: in any case, who do we have left now? I think bair and judy are really gone bair: yea i wik rich-c: oh, you are still here, Bob bair: i thought i would but not much to say rich-c: yes, things tend to fall apart after 11 eastern rich-c: in the early stages everyone talks at once bair: i guess i will be leaving too
bair left chat session rich-c: right - take care, and give our best to Ginny too Daniel Bienvenu: I posted it to the mailing-list rich-c: sorry Daniel - the allusions you missed in talking to Bob Bair - he recently lost his son in a tragic road accident Daniel Bienvenu: a tragic road accident? who? rich-c: he was driving in a storm - they think he was blineded by lightning and hit a tree rich-c: Bob and Virginia Bair's young son rich-c: this was about two weeks ago, maybe a bit more Daniel Bienvenu: I finally receive an e-mail from Marcel de Kogel last week. He talked about "his road accident" and said he no longer read his e-mails. rich-c: I have never been in direct touch with Marcel but have noticed others talking about something' Daniel Bienvenu: I replied to him with my colecovision programming document to show him the good work I've done. rich-c: the one who would be likeliest to know would be Dr.D rich-c: it will be interesting to see what response you get, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: ok Daniel Bienvenu: "Several things have been going on..." Daniel Bienvenu: "here. The most severe of those a car accident, now almost a year ago." rich-c: anyway I have to go now - enjoy what's left of your birthday! Daniel Bienvenu: "Though nothing life-threatening happened - I broke my collar bone and had a lot of internal bleedings - I wasn't able to work for about 4-5 months. The shoulder actually still isn't 100% OK" rich-c: Ouch - he got smashed up badly Daniel Bienvenu: "The fracture has healed, but flexibility and strength is still lacking. It also still hurts when I use it too much. It isn't really blocking me from doing anything except sports though, and it is slowly getting better." rich-c: sounds like he took a headon but had a good seatbelt fastened Daniel Bienvenu: "I also went back to school. I am studying computer sience at the local university. I doubt I lack any knowledge (so far, this hasn't shown to be the case), but I do lack a degree. Though not difficult, the study is consuming a lot of time, I'd say about 3 to 4 evenings a week. Together with a full-time job, this leaves me with little spare time :( Nowadays, I check my e-mail very irregularly. I am trying to do this more often though." rich-c: blessedly he's still young and should heal quickly and well rich-c: Daniel, your game pack just arrived, so you got it out to the list Daniel Bienvenu: "More has happened the last year. My girlfriend moved in with me here in Holland, and has started studying here, with good results - so far at least. She is having much less problems integrating in the society than I imagined before, given the differences in culture, language, etc. (She is from São Paulo, Brazil in case I never told you)." Daniel Bienvenu: "I'm sorry to tell you that after starting learning Portuguese my knowledge of French has decreased rapidly. I'm still able to read what you write though, and who knows it improves again." rich-c: OK - that means she wasn't hurt in the accident, and will be good for his morale - he's very deeply in love with her Daniel Bienvenu: "Thanks for your e-mail. I really appreciate it, let's stay in contact. I'll do my best to improve on this :)" Daniel Bienvenu: "Take care, Marcel" rich-c: yes, he's a Netherlander, also has English, but I don't know how his other languages are Daniel Bienvenu: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:50:50 rich-c: anyway Daniel that is a hugely encouraging response rich-c: obviously you have engaged his interest and re-sparked his enthusiasm rich-c: indirectly you may well have done the whole Adam community an enormous favour Daniel Bienvenu: I think my successor in coleco programming will do more for the coleco adam community. I know that a new colecovision game cartridge will be extended in gameplay by using a TAPE or a DISK on the Adam computer.. rich-c: that will indeed be a landmark if it can be accomplished rich-c: by the way, I have 8 dead Colecovision cartridges - are you still looking for them? Daniel Bienvenu: i have enough cartridges for the curent "secret" projects but i don't know if i will need some cartridges in a near future. rich-c: OK, just be aware they are here if you need them and speak soon enough rich-c: but Daniel, right now I have to go - see you Sat. or Wed rich-c: a la prochaine - bonsoir Daniel Bienvenu: maybe saturday pm Daniel Bienvenu: a la prochaine!
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