james&case: good morning/evening james&case: hailing frequencies open james&case: zzzzzzzzzzzz Dr.D.: Hi James, I was away from the keyboard. james&case: hello Dr.D.: You gonna let Case do some typing tonight? :-) james&case: maybe, but for now his highness playeth on the floor with toys aplenty Dr.D.: Goodly sport. james&case: should he call for the court jester, i'll be there to do his bidding Dr.D.: Sunday 5/6 of us went to a day-long Medieval Festival. james&case: that sounds fun Dr.D.: It was. james&case: was this one of those full costume events? Dr.D.: There were about 25 costumed actors playing specific characters throughout the day. james&case: neat Dr.D.: Plus as many members of SCA in costume who wanted to attend. Dr.D.: Several day-long plot threads, too. It was great to interact with the actors. Dr.D.: The Festival is on the site of a former Girl Scout camp, and they have made many permanent buildings and performance spaces. james&case: i must be sleepy. i read "plot threads" as "pot heads". must be nice to get away like that Dr.D.: I wasn't in costume, nor Joan, but the younger 2 went as Princesses and Elanor as a warrior...wearing Halloween costumes made by Joan, of course.
moved to room Meeting Place james&case: i'm picturing cobbled streets, markets and bards on street corners Dr.D.: The younger 2 were declared Princesses by King Arthur, and the Duke of Norfolk knighted Elanor for the Kingdom of Wales.
changed username to Guy B. james&case: they must have throroughly enjoyed that Dr.D.: Dirt paths in heavy woods, but otherwise, yes. Guy B.: Greetings fellow Adamites! Dr.D.: At one point there was a game of Battle Chess between Arthur and an upstart. james&case: good <insert locale greeting here> Dr.D.: Hi Guy. Dr.D.: The girls got drafted as chess pieces. Guy B.: Hey Dr. D, where have you been lately? Dr.D.: All on the upstart side. james&case: what were they? ie: what pieces? Dr.D.: Me...trying to finish a pile of summer research. Dr.D.: Done today (whew.) Dr.D.: Pieces...hmm, Elanor and Diana were pawns, but Gretchen was a bishop. james&case: ha ha. the star trek equivalent of the security folk in red shirts :D Guy B.: Ah, been keeping busy this summer. Well, finally got my itinarary finalized for the con. Dr.D.: The upstart King made her move across the board to attack the piece on that square...a knight. Dr.D.: The upstart bellowed, "Child! Thrash that knight!" james&case: did she get to physically hit him? my wife would love that Dr.D.: King Arthur protested, and bade the upstart appoint a proxy... Dr.D.: The characters all fought...stage fighting, of course, but it was fun and well-choreographed. james&case: neat james&case: hi guy Guy B.: Hi James Dr.D.: Elanor said that if it had been her, she *would* have hit the knight. He was in full armor, it couldn't have hurt him. Guy B.: How's the weather in Japan this week? james&case: lol james&case: it's been raining since.. james&case: june Dr.D.: The game ended with protest by Merlin that there was cheating going on...so they decided it at a joust. Of course, then Arthur's champion won :-) Guy B.: We have been hit with alot of severe weather this month. And alot of rain to boot. james&case: ha ha james&case: well he is the king afterall Dr.D.: As for me and ADAMcon...I still need to find out what Ron wants me to do. I have 2 weeks to get it ready, whatever it is. james&case: i think it's funny how many kids think battle chess is some novel idea after having seen the second harry potter installment Guy B.: I'm doing my AdamEm utilities review on Sunday morning. That's what Ron has me scheduled for. Dr.D.: Between my summer robot course last month and this month's research, I have been going nuts here...but today I gave my research seminar, it went well, and I'm off the hook until September at least. james&case: "harry potter and the pile of cash" i think it's called james&case: that must be a nice feeling, rich Dr.D.: One bit of HP crept into the day, though...Merlin got into a magic fight with the upstart king's own magician...with some real fireworks. Merlin won by yelling "Expelliarmus!" and the other magician lost his wand! We were ROTFL because it was a HP spell. james&case: yeah, the con is coming up pretty fast there, eh guy? Guy B.: Two weeks james&case: not much time at all. i'm assuming though that i needn't state the obvious :P Dr.D.: I know...I am just hoping no problems with customs, as I was unable to get away to formally get a passport. I am told that birth certificate + photo ID (driver's license) is still acceptable... Guy B.: I'm flying up to Seattle then taking a Helijet to Campbell River where Ron will pick me up there. Guy B.: It is. That's what I'm bringing. Dr.D.: I am not slated to arrive until Thursday 9:30 PM at Comox airport. Guy B.: Do you have to connect in Vancouver? Dr.D.: It will be a long day, I think it's 15 hours travel time each way (not all in the air, of course). Dr.D.: Yes. Cleveland-->Chicago-->Vancouver-->Comox. 3 changes of flight. james&case: i'll be travelling to ottawa in sept Dr.D.: And the flight out of Comox Monday morning leaves at 7:00 AM. Urgh. Guy B.: You're stopping at O'Hare? Dr.D.: But I can't beat the price of $512 round-trip, I guess. Dr.D.: Hmm...gotta look at the tickets, I *think* it's O'Hare. Could be Midway, I guess. Guy B.: I tried booking with Yahoo Travel from Chicago to Vancouver then to Comox. It was a total mess, ended up cancelling the whole thing. Dr.D.: I just want to travel light and not be attractive to customs inspectors. james&case: n8uiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis james&case: 8fgxszc Dr.D.: I used expedia.com to book the flight. james&case: grxxgggbv Dr.D.: Case is typing, I see. james&case: yes. he's almost as articulate as i am at the moment Dr.D.: My brain is pretty fried after the last few days in the lab. Guy B.: Ron gave me a website Helijet .com So, I'm flying to Seattle then taking a shuttle van to Boeing Field to Helijet's terminal. james&case: chronic sleep depriva tion james&case: jhnnhynu james&case: hukb9ptgf james&case: case pulls my hand away now if i try to use his keyboard Dr.D.: I had to take the weekend off because of it being our 17th wedding anniversary (Saturday), but couldn't really go anywhere too far because of transportation requirements for Christina's summer sports. Dr.D.: We did go see "Johnny English" on Saturday, though. Funny film. Dr.D.: So I wonder where the Clee contingent is...Richard is usually the 1st one here, yes?
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changed username to rich-c Guy B.: That could be him. It is. Dr.D.: Speak of the devil... Guy B.: Hhi Rich rich-c: ah, made it in this time Dr.D.: Hello Richard. rich-c: greetings all rich-c: this was my fourth try getting on here - it kept dying on me Guy B.: Rich, I'm all set for the con. Dr.D.: Forgive me for asking if your biliary tree is still bothering you... rich-c: knew you could do it, Guy - what's the final word? Guy B.: Flying to Seattle then taking Helijet to Campbell River where Ron will pick me up. rich-c: it's no secret, Rich - the answer is yes, I'm badly off my feed and totally exhausted 24/7 rich-c: what's the Helijet? Dr.D.: Glurgh...hadn't you hoped to have surgery scheduled by now? rich-c: well, North York General is still in the process of reopening after being effectively the SARS isolation unit for the city Guy B.: Oh Ron gave me the website Helijet.com. Seems I'll taking a helicopter ride to Campbell River from Boeing Field in Seattle. james&case: fun rich-c: gee, I didn't know trips like that wre affordable to mere mortals! james&case: it would seem as though we're hobnobbing amongst the elite rich-c: well, james, you know thsese American plutocrats... Dr.D.: As long it's not an open-cockpit 'copter :-) Guy B.: Came out to $273 round trip. I'll be coming in the afternoon and leaving early Monday morning for return flight home. rich-c: and if you got a decent Chicago/Seattle price, that ain't bad james&case: someone's sleepy. i'm right there with him. i'll be back shortly rich-c: right james Guy B.: Yep, flying United from O'Hare. It was cheaper than ATA and Southwest. rich-c: and it goes to Boeing Field rather than Seatac, or do you have to transfer? Guy B.: I fly United to Seatac, then I take Helijet's free shuttle to Boeing Field. rich-c: aha - and if they're using a scheduled shuttle, then likely they'll hold the chopper if your flight is late rich-c: I assume that that means you connected with a good travel agent, Guy Guy B.: I scheduled the flight so, I can be there in plenty of time. But on the return, I land at Boeing Field at 9:30AM and my flight back home is at 11:15. I hope that will give me enough time to get to the gate. Guy B.: I used Yahoo Travel for the United flight and Helijet directly for booking with them. rich-c: not sure how far it is from Boeing to Seatac, and I guess you'll have to clear US Customs at Boeing rich-c: try not to look too much like a terrorist ;-) Guy B.: Yes, I clear Customs at Boeing Field. Then I take the shuttle van back to Seatac. james&case: not as sleepy as i had hoped rich-c: somehow or other I don't think even the US CIS will be looking for terrorists on choppers from Campbell River Dr.D.: Never having flown international...where do they do the customs? At the airport whose flight would take you into a foreign country, or do they wait until after you arrive in the foreign country? I'd think it would be easier to keep unwanted people out before they get in rather than decide after they're there that they should be deported. rich-c: it depends on the country and the airport, Rich Guy B.: No, I don't think so. Dr D. maybe Vancouver, otherwise could be back at your airport. james&case: typically, one goes through customs at the port of arrival, but there is a cursory check at the point of departure (passports etc)
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changed username to BobS Guy B.: HI Bob BobS: finally rich-c: hello Roberto BobS: could not get in james&case: and as rich pointed out, there is pre-clearance in selected areas
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: did you get the Java fighting with your virtual machine too? Guy B.: Hi Pam, missed you last week. BobS: hi ALL Pamela: Hi, Dad, I see you made it rich-c: hello daughter Guy B.: Bob, got my flights finalized. Pamela: sorry, Guy, important date with my hairdresser (home at midnight or so). Dr.D.: I ask because I have a very short time between my return flight from Vancouver to Chicago and the final leg home from Chicago to Cleveland. If they do all the strip-searches in Chicago, I doubt I can make the last flight. BobS: good BobS: Jeanene's friend came thru eh?????? Guy B.: I bet you look great. Guy B.: No, Ron did. james&case: good morning pam Pamela: Well, my hair's been tamed, anyway : ) BobS: the round one????? Pamela: Morning James, BobS: good man that Pamela: and good morning to the little guy too Dr.D.: Hello Pamela...and Bob. BobS: HIYA rich-c: I expect that you wil get pre-cleared in Vancouver, Rich, especially if you're using a U.S. airline Pamela: Hi, Rich - how are you? james&case: my wife's hair is pretty tame. can't say the same for her temper :P BobS: didn't get chance to visit the webpage yet on robots Rich Dr.D.: Have been horribly busy, but I gave my big lab research seminar today, so I am now off the hook until classes start. Pamela: Very cool. Have you had time to read HP5 yet? rich-c: Bob, are you still looking for u/s tape drives that might be repairable? Dr.D.: I am Air Canada to/from Vancouver. United between Cleveland and Chicago. james&case: who's that question directed at, pam? Pamela: anyone - but especially you and Rich Guy B.: Going to fly to Seattle, then take a chopper at Boeing Field from Helijet Intl. to Campbell River where Ron will pick me up. He says it's only 45 minutes from Comox. Dr.D.: My dear Pamela, I had read it within 6 hours of acquiring it, queue position #8 at the midnight grand opening at Borders bookstore. Dr.D.: I was there with the younger 3 girls, and Gretchen was in cape and Sorting Hat. rich-c: figgers, Dr. D. Pamela: the whole thing??? in six hours??? BobS: sure Richard......... BobS: got some set aside here tha need work mayh get ot them one day Dr.D.: Read once fast for plot. Second time much slower to savor details. But I wanted to know what happened.
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: anyway, Rich, if you're flying Air Canada Vancouver/Chicago I would guess they will preclear you at YVR
changed username to FredK FredK: Hi All Guy B.: Hi Fred BobS: hiya Free BobS: Fred rich-c: salut, Fred Pamela: Exactly what I did. Read it through the first time, gave it to R to read, then took it back and re-read it in more detail, then gave it back to R to re-read for the same reason FredK: as a bird Bob! Dr.D.: Good, 'cause I have 4-hour layovers in Vancouver both ways :-) Pamela: Now Ihave to pass it on to Dad BobS: man guy, you got the ROYAL treatment !!!!!!!!!!1 Dr.D.: Hello Fred. Pamela: Hi, Fred
(BobS gives FredK a can of Diet Coke.) Guy B.: Well, Ron gave me this and it worked out. Dr.D.: Dolores Umbridge is a real monster, isn't she? FredK: :) rich-c: reason I was asking, Bob, is had an inquiry today from someone who'd send you half a dozen or so if you'd pay postage Dr.D.: But if your Dad hasn't read it, I better say no more. Pamela: oh, you can say that again - but I bet her a** lands in Azkaban Guy B.: And did all on Sunday afternoon and evening. BobS: would be fun to take a helicopter ride Dr.D.: She can go scrub the loo with a toothbrush and keep Moaning Myrtle company. BobS: where from Richard????? BobS: postage should be fairly inexpensive as media mail rich-c: yes, you just made boring old conventional arrangements, didnt you, Bob? FredK: :) Dr.D.: Have any of you sent E-mail to John Lingrel? Pamela: after admitting she sent the Dementors after Harry, I suspect she'll be imprisoned BobS: yea, we are flying then renting a lowly car.........llike Lowly the worm's apple rich-c: from Toronto and it would be parcel post, we don't have media mail any more rich-c: but the quantity would be in parcel weight range anyway BobS: got any idea what the cost would be in us $$$$$ ????????? Dr.D.: 10 quatloos? Dr.D.: :-) rich-c: not top of my head, Bob, but you can get the Canadian $ cost from canadapost.ca Pamela: couple knuts, anyway Dr.D.: Just was gonna say that, Pam. Pamela: beatcha! rich-c: anyway today the $1 CDN is about 71 cents U.S. Dr.D.: I already told this to James...but at a Medieval Fair we spent all day Sunday at, there was a fireworks battle between Merlin and a bad upstart usurper king's wizard...Merlin used "Expelliarmus!" to remove his opponent's staff. Joan and I were ROTFL at that. Dr.D.: And the younger 3 girls got to play Battle (Wizard) Chess. Pamela: Russell wants to know if that was with live people Dr.D.: Gretchen (a bishop) was instructed to "thrash" a knight on the other side of the board...but King Arthur protested about using a child for dirty work, so a proxy was named :-) Dr.D.: Yes, live people. rich-c: must have seen teh glint in Gretchen's eye ;-) Dr.D.: And opposing pieces fought (stage warcraft to be sure, but thrilling). Dr.D.: Elanor was mad...'cause she said that if she'd had the chance, she would have hit the knight (who was in full plate mail). Pamela: that's a blood thirsty child you have there Rich rich-c: well, a bishop would surely trash him subtly - quiet dagger between the plates, perhaps? Dr.D.: It was a fun day, about 35 actors playing various roles and interacting with visitors, some costumed, some not. Dr.D.: The Black King bellowed out, "Child! Thrash that knight!" We were ROTFL in the audience. Gretchen was a little puzzled. james&case: fred, ca va? Pamela: It sounds like the Ren Faire we have every year just outside the city - they now have a permanent site FredK: Oui James merci and you? james&case: pas pire. un peu fatigue comme toujours Dr.D.: This is at a permanent site, too, an old Girl Scout camp. Heavily wooded, dirt paths, open amphitheatres for performance, tilting list. Dr.D.: The Great Lakes Medieval Fair...don't know if they have a website or not. FredK: Oui, wife daughter and I just got back from New Brunwick! FredK: Brunswick james&case: sounds fun. i went down east with my wife about.. 5 years ago Pamela: I don't know if ours has a name but this is very similar rich-c: what were you doing down in L'Acadie, Fred? Pamela: Got the land from a farmer I believe james&case: how old is your daughter? my son is 16 months today Dr.D.: I don't think I could be SCA (those people don't know when to turn it off), but it's fun to visit the past for a while.
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left chat session Pamela: Russell concurs on the SCA - says you have to be able to accept the fact that it isn't real
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left chat session BobS: Appears Richard......that it is too costly to get the ddd's here from canada........bvecause conditoin unknown Pamela: I did notice during our stint that there were some people who were waaaaay too immersed in their personas BobS: BRB Dr.D.: I wish someone would build a Star Trek-themed hotel in the shape of the complete original Enterprise NCC-1701. Dr.D.: I would pay to spend a week there in my Starfleet uniform :-)
moved to room Meeting Place Dr.D.: You and Russell were SCA for a while?
changed username to Ron rich-c: well, they would definitely be not working, the question would be the percentage repairable and market for drives james&case: there are star-trek themed.. uh.. "hotels" in japan Ron: Yo! Dr.D.: Hello Ron. Guy B.: Hi ron Pamela: I don't know if this is comparable or not - but we did Pennsic in 1988 for ten days. It was a wonderful experience rich-c: greetings Ron james&case: hey ron. take your rain back, i'm sick of it Ron: sunny in the west Pamela: Hi, Ron Guy B.: How about the temps? Ron: weather travels from west to east James Pamela: brb - gotta kiss my hubby g'bye Ron: don't send it here james&case: lol Guy B.: Tell Russell I said Hi james&case: well if you go east far enough you end up going west :P Ron: Hey Guy.... sorry for the anxious moments over the weekend Guy B.: That's all right. Jeanene said I should make the reservations anyway and I did. Ron: and that was a good thing
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changed username to FredK Guy B.: Welcome back Fred. FredK: Sorry James, rich-c Ron: by the way..... just as a general note to ALL FredK: tks Ron: would those planning to arrive at Comox Airport on Thursday please e-mail me with your arrival times??? FredK: rich-c went to see wifes mom and familly in Acadie FredK: James Meganne is 1year old Dr.D.: I guess I will also need to make some arrangements somehow to get from Comox airport to the hotel after 9:30 PM Thursday, local time. Ron: Can pick you up Dr D Ron: it's not a long drive rich-c: which part, Fred? that is very beautiful country FredK: 26kms approx from Bathurst Dr.D.: And equally to get back at the ungodly early hours of Monday morning to make a 7:00 AM flight out to Vancouver. rich-c: out on La Baie de chaleurs? Ron: right...... you got the early one....... we'll do that too FredK: Exactly
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changed username to BobS Pamela: Anyway Rich, yes we were SCA for a while - Russell was involved when i met him and he brought me in Guy B.: I remember I had to do that back in Orlando. rich-c: you must have had a very pleasant time - did you drive or fly? FredK: Drove took about 11half to 12hours Ron: I need to make a list of whom to pick up where FredK: we stayed at a chalet on the water front, really relaxing! great, only 3days do. FredK: though rich-c: but down the south shore of teh St. Lawrence is very picturesque - you went down the Matepedia valley? BobS: Ron, you were a busy guy........arrainging senor Guy's travel plans FredK: Exactly, I was amazed to say the least FredK: have filmed some parts Ron: Hell Bob, alls I did was read 4 e-mails from Guy, progressively more anxious in tone....like Ron... where the hell are you? rich-c: I remember teh first time we drove down there, in 1956 - trust me, it has changed since! Ron: Read them all Monday evening. FredK: So you were not amazed to say the least !! Ron: He wanted to confirm that I could pick him up...... and there I was....gone BobS: and thenm PRESTO, CHANGO.....ya'll fized him up Guy B.: Yeah, I was beginning to wonder if he disappeared from the face of the earth. rich-c: let's say I've been there and know how you must have enjoyed it BobS: he IS retired you know Ron: oh yeah. Put Jeff on notice that he's probably going to play chauffeur rich-c: did you get a chance to look in at Quebec City? Pamela: Poor Jeff - he attends once in how many years, and you put him to work Dr.D.: No hotel-provided shuttle? I hate to get you or Jeff up so early... FredK: Nada, not at all, full thrust down to NB that was it unfortunately. BobS: it is good for him Pam Dr.D.: Sorry I was away, phone call. Ron: I go to Vancouver twice a year, just to remind myself how much I like living here Pamela: Rich, read up a bit rich-c: well, next time take two weeks, and make it leisurely, Fred - but you'll know that anyway now Ron: Bob, just for your records, I have a cheque from son Jeff for $160 CDN FredK: I had the same feiling Ron when I came back from NB today! Ron: he's gonna stay at the house, and will not be able to attend the banquet Ron: He ran out of holidays and money with the Italian tour and all....has to be back to work Monday FredK: rich-c, yes, now I know few places would like to stop a while! BobS: ok Ron: So at the moment, I'm holding my money, Murray's and Jeff's here Ron: T-shirts required a deposit of $150 Cdn FredK: Was so close to the Percé, that would have been nice too... Ron: and the banner will be $60 CDN rich-c: got the price to mail Pam's and mine yet, Ron? Ron: That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it Dr.D.: Ah yes, I have to send BobS a check for the extra 3 T-shirts. Out in tomorrow's mail. rich-c: actually, 122 out to Perce is a fairly challenging drive - bit moe than it looks on the map Pamela: yes, I have to send one too Ron: Not sure Rich... the XXXL's - I've been told are going to be extra, and he hasn't told me yet how much. Base price is $15.20 ea, but larger sizes are extra Pamela: let us know Bob Dr.D.: Banner...thanks for reminding me, I will need to pack it, and the B.A.S.I.C. banner.
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) Ron: please Dr. D rich-c: well mine should be $15.20 then plus postage, which if both are together Pam and I will split
(Guy B. throws a hot potato at BobS.) Ron: bring XIII too if you can Pamela: three Dad - one for Russell too Dr.D.: I meant the XIII banner and the B.A.S.I.C. banner. Ron: oh... Hi Pam...didn't see you there rich-c: right daughter - didn't realize he wanted one Pamela: gee thanks Ron Dr.D.: I think they will fit in the suitcase. Pamela: I asked him and he said yes Ron: nice to know you're appreciated eh/ Pamela: truly Pamela: Bob, how come you're on twice? Ron: aw... Pamela, you know I love ya! Dr.D.: I think, though, that I won't be able to bring all my ADAMcon T-shirts to wear, just too many of them for only one suitcase. FredK: brb Pamela: I know Ron, I'm just pulling your tail BobS: only here oncst hom BobS: hon Pamela: it's so hard to resist Ron: we better charter an extra flight Dr. D Pamela: that's not what my screen says Dr.D.: Pam has a tail? Someone has been practising underage wizardry... Ron: ouch! james&case: oh ron, the money order i sent june 30th just arrived at my parents' place all of two days ago. so as the saying goes, the cheque is in the mail. you should have it by early next week Pamela: invisible, Rich - and everyone still delights in pulling it regularly Guy B.: Going to wash several of them this weekend and start some packing. Ron, is it warm out there in Comox or should we expect some cool weather? Ron: works for me James Dr.D.: I will be travelling so light, you won't recognize me: 1 suitcase, 1 briefcase, no computers. james&case: sorry to have kept you waiting Pamela: which derives from a Star Trek novel called "Uhura's Song" Pamela: I don't believe it Rich Dr.D.: Not sure I read that one, Pam, though I've heard of the title. Ron: prudent thing to do Dr. D. The less you carry, the less they can search Ron: computers we got Pamela: It's one of the best I've ever read - you have to read it Dr.D.: I just remember the troubles Ron has had getting computer equipment through the last couple years, extra costs, limitations on carry-ons. Guy B.: One suitcase, one notebook, a PC network card and cables and 1 floppy disk with an update on Dcopy32 hopefully. FredK: back Ron: exactly Dr.D.: I will bring the digital camera and enough Compact Flash RAM to store a couple hundred photos. Prob. battery charger, too, unless those are verboted these days.
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Ron confirmed ban Dr.D.: verboten, I meant. Ron: sure..... do away with Bob...... hit him with your best shot Guy B.: I'm going to look at a digital camera tomorrow. Officemax has one for $69 Pamela: only the evil twin, Ron Ron: oh, right rich-c: long as you just want it as a throwaway, Guy, it should work well BobS: OUCH Guy B.: I do have a 35MM. All I need is to buy film. rich-c: even a 640 x 480 resolution is adequate for website postings BobS: what is it Guy??????? Ron: sorry Bob. Don't take it personal BobS: K Pamela: Film is good - film is important, as I learned to my dismay last year Guy B.: It's a Visioneer. I have a scanner from this same company. The camera a 8mb memory. Ron: but Kodak 's profits are down, so there might not be as much film Pamela: Do you good people realize that I was the only one there last year who had a camera with a remote, and I had no film? rich-c: If you have a laptop along with USB ports, you can download to your hard disc BobS: removeable memory?????????? Guy B.: I need a USB card for my notebook. I have Win95 B on it and I did notice on the system that is has USB support. Dr.D.: Hmm, I didn't think USB came in until Win98. rich-c: yes, there's all sorts of static RAM for digital cameras and stuff - USB "pens" too of 64MB and up Guy B.: Built in 8mb memory, but you can add a memory card to it. BobS: naw you can use it wit 95 rev B Ron: that's what I thought too.... Win 95 Rev B does it BobS: win95 rev B Guy B.: That's what I have on the Compac. rich-c: from what I've heard, in theory you can, in practice only Bill Gates can make it go BobS: but win98 does it better Dr.D.: never heard of rev B. Dr.D.: learn something new every day. Dr.D.: Bill Gates...grrrr Guy B.: I can upgrade it to Win98 if I need to. BobS: rev B is technically the stand alone version I think BobS: not an upgrade rich-c: I had it on my old machine and wastold not to bother trying to make it work with USB Ron: It took about 200 meg more to install, and was more like Win 98 than Win 95 Pamela: Okay Ron - question for you Dr.D.: "Coleco ADAM: A computer whose only Gates are AND, NOT, and OR." Ron: yes.... Guy B.: I have a Win95 with USB support Pamela: What time will chat be on Con Saturday? rich-c: it will be after the banquet Sunday, won't it? Ron: 9 pm PDT....... oh hey....wait a minute.....just realized something...... I'm gonna have to change the sked. We'll have to start the chat earlier Dr.D.: so B is the clean-install version, the other is upgrade-from-3.1-only? BobS: 9PM..........that's 12PM EST ???????? Ron: what did we do in Seattle? BobS: maybe have to make it ealrier Pamela: see, glad I asked BobS: what is 7PM wet caost time Guy B.: Otherwise, most of everyone out east will be asleep. Ron: absolutely Pam Pamela: 4:00 pm, Bob BobS: 7 would be 10PM EST ??????? BobS: now now Pamela Ron: well now let's see Dr.D.: Do it at 5:00 PM PDT, that works out to 8:00 PM EDT, the standard chat start time, right? Pamela: 10 EST would be okay Guy B.: That would be reasonable for everyone there. Pamela: no, 9:00 is standard EST time rich-c: Guy, I got a PCMCIA card with 2 USB ports for my old laptop Pamela: for chat Guy B.: You do? Ron: BobS: so make it an hour late and we will back from supper on Sat @ 7PM rich-c: yes, and it wasn't that expensive - little Chinese hole in the mall in Markham Dr.D.: Wednesdays...but I thought the ADAMcon chats started at 8 Eastern...my mind is going, Dave. Guy B.: The camera supports USB. rich-c: we seem to have about half of Canton here and they're all in the computer business Ron: sounds right Bob....Haven't got a schedule in my AC11 folder, so I'm not sure, but I think it was 7pm Pamela: well, lessee - who will be missing at the con? Myself, Dad, Fred, Daniel - who else? Dr.D.: Wow, you have your AC 11 folder handy...mine is all packed away :-)
BobS changed username to Judy Guy B.: Hi Judy Judy: Hi, everyone Dr.D.: Jill? Pamela: Hi, Judy rich-c: hello Judy Ron: does it matter to you James? FredK: Hi Judy Dr.D.: Hello Judy. Pamela: yup Ron: what time we have the chat I mean? Dr.D.: Lots of Canadian contingent :-( Ron: most everyone else, I think, is in the eastern time zone Judy: is everyone good,I hope!!! rich-c: booted the old guy off the computer, I see Ron: Hi Judy Pamela: agreed, Rich Pamela: and I desperately wanted to be there Ron: No Judy....... I couldn't be good if I tried...... perpetually bad Judy: are you ready, Ron rich-c: of course it depends on how many non-regulars join in - I assume there will be copious postings to the list? Judy: not cool Guy B.: Rich, I have a computer show coming up this Sunday. I'll see if I can get a PCMCIA USB card from there. Ron: there will have to be Rich Dr.D.: What you *could* do, Pam, in lieu of attending in person... Ron: will play it up over the next few weeks Ron: geez...... Pamela: yes??? Ron: I don't have a few weeks Ron: PANIC !!! Judy: I am not up to par either, took a little fall off my bike while we were gone rich-c: if not Guy try a search on Froogle or something, it'll turn up Pamela: define "little" Judy Dr.D.: ...is do what I did for ADAMcon 10, when I had to teach classes and couldn't get away. Ron: Not good Judy Pamela: which was? Dr.D.: I made a videotape at home and sent it to PJ to show at the convention. Judy: fell on my you-know-what, and the sitter is not great Guy B.: I do have CompUSA near me. Pamela: good idea, but I don't have access to a camcorder Dr.D.: I did an actual session, but you wouldn't have to do that...just send along some message or something. Judy: no, was a come-downer that is for sure Ron: That was nicely done Dr. D. I remember that Dr.D.: None of your circle have one to borrow for 10 minutes? rich-c: I keep forgetting others don't have the support infrastructure we have in Toronto, Guy Pamela: would you believe no? Dr.D.: I still have the original tape...I should digitize it. Dr.D.: Sigh :-( Ron: oh.... speaking of sessions...... Dr. D. which one of my page and a half subjects did you choose? Pamela: times two Judy: glad to hear that you got your transpertation all set, Guy Dr.D.: Urrghh...actually, I haven't chosen yet. Meesa bad boy. Pamela: I'm bummed. the closer we get, the more I want to say the heck with paying my bills Pamela: and hop on a plane Dr.D.: If you have a strong preference for anything, let me know. Otherwise, I will pick tomorrow and E-mail you. Ron: Got you down on the sked for Digital Photo processing for ADAM (ie... your Christmas pics) but that can change if it doesn't work for you Dr.D.: How many session slots do you need filled? Judy: we would love to see you Pam, but bills do have to be paid Ron: just got you down for one at this point, but 2 would work if ya wanna do it Pamela: yeah, I know Judy - it sucks to be an adult sometimes Dr.D.: Since I will be Wizard Without Computer at the convention... Dr.D.: ...does the hotel have a computer LCD projector by chance? Guy B.: Be Right Back
Guy B. left chat session Judy: no, computer coming with you, Dr D? Ron: No, but I do....it's an older one but it should work Ron: borrowing it from the Community net Dr.D.: If so, I would make some PowerPoint presentations and hope that you'd have a compatible computer to run them on. That way I just bring a CD. Ron: yep, we can do that Dr. D
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Back Dr.D.: I hate PowerPoint, but it would be much better for the audience than paper handouts...also less for me to get through customs. Ron: Have Office XP on my Duron Dr.D.: Unless they want to see the disk. Ron: Lord.... ya never know eh? but hopefully not Dr.D.: I have current Office X, so presumably its PowerPoint would make compatible stuff? Ron: Oh yea..... willl have Office X on the iMac there too....so you can use that Dr.D.: If I am very good, I could always mail a copy of the CD...that way if they take mine, we still have a presentation. Ron: The only problem with the iMac is that it won't feed my LCD, which needs a VGA output Ron: If you can, format it for Windoze Pamela: brb Ron: right Dr.D.: Okay, I'll use the Win2K machine in the lab to make the presentations...or try a Mac-created one on it and see if it plays on the Win2K machine.
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changed username to Daniel B Guy B.: If there is a computer with a 5 1/4 drive available, I'll be able to demo Dcopy32 and the rest of the utilities. Otherwise, I can use my notebook for most of it. rich-c: salut, Daniel Guy B.: Hi Daniel FredK: Salut Daniel Ron: Yes Guy.... we'll have that too.... it's only a 486/20, but it should do the job Guy B.: Great. Ron: runs win95 Ron: but not B Dr.D.: Child interrupt...some kids are getting unruly out of bed. Need to go be peacemaker. Ron: should be sufficient Dr.D.: Anything else from anyone before I sign off for tonight? Pamela: Hi, Daniel Ron: oh oh....... battling daughters rich-c: long as it has enough memory, Ron Dr.D.: Hi Daniel. Dr.D.: Yes, scrapping loudly. Ron: it survives on 20 meg......just Guy B.: That's Ok. Dcopy32 setup can use any version of Windows as long you have the VB400run.dll on it. rich-c: think I'm clear, Rich - will have to write Big John, tho' Ron: will make sure I do guy Ron: Guy Pamela: go sit on them rich - g'nite Dr.D.: Floor thumping...okay, that's it, time for some law east of the Cuyahoga... Judy: yea come back next week Guy B.: Bye Dr. D. Say Hello to the girls. Dr.D.: I will, it will be last chance before ADAMcon :-)
Judy changed username to BobS Dr.D.: Hailing frequencies closing...poof
Dr.D. left chat session Guy B.: Boy, he's fast. Ron: gee..... now ya see him Ron: now ya don't rich-c: the hackers are out in force here tonight - I'm getting all sorts of pokes - are any of the rest of you? BobS: speedy gonzales...........remember himk the li'l mexican mouse?????? Ron: got tired of looking a long time ago Rich Pamela: si, senor Guy B.: Yea Ha! Pamela: arriba, arriba, andale BobS: ariva!!!!!! Guy B.: Si Senor Pussycat. BobS: si Ron: we have done a language change? Pamela: temporaramente BobS: si BobS: to ol mehico Ron: ? BobS: anyway...HOW IS THE WEATHER??????? Guy B.: Speedy Gonzale, the fastest mouse in all of Mexico. Yee Ha! Pamela: Pero, Bob hablas en phonetics Ron: here? BobS: gonna plan on cool and take jeans and long sleeve
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu rich-c: welcome back, Daniel BobS: WBD Ron: right now, we're in the mid-80's, sunshine wall to wall FredK: re-Salut Daniel Ron: supposed to be that way till the end of the week Daniel Bienvenu: yes! it works! BobS: go figure Daniel Bienvenu: hello! Pamela: I gather you all haven't been following the heat wave that BC has been experiencing BobS: so WHAT the heck do we take??????? rich-c: and what will it be in an hour, Ron? Snow? Daniel Bienvenu: Problem with my computer... BobS: you westerners.............I*&^^ Daniel Bienvenu: now it's ok! Guy B.: Been cool here in Chicago Ron: but 2--3 weeks from now, who knows..... will keep you's updated Ron: that's about it Rich BobS: only low 70's here today Ron: the pool is at 80 deg F. which is unheard of Daniel Bienvenu: hello rich! salut Fred! Daniel Bienvenu: hi Pam! Pamela: pool??? (moan) rich-c: just before you leave, Bob, check the environment canada weather site Pamela: salut, Daniel Ron: :) Daniel Bienvenu: hello Bob! BobS: I LOVE THAT TEMP] Daniel Bienvenu: hello Ron! BobS: hi Daniel Pamela: or www.theweathernetwork.com Ron: Hey Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonjour James&Case Pamela: James went AWOL, Daniel rich-c: it's weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/canada_e-html Ron: sounds good Rich Ron: or if you're looking for an Airport it's the same as the airlines use....... YQQ.... that'll fish you out a weather report to rich-c: sorry - make that e.html Ron: too Pamela: the nice thing about the weather network website is you can check specific cities and get up to the minute forecasts and long-range for up to a week Pamela: they're very accurate Pamela: I recommend it Daniel Bienvenu: what is AWOL? BobS: PAMELA.......they cannot get tomorrow right much less a week Ron: absent without leave Pamela: Absent Without Leave Ron: if you Daniel Bienvenu: thanks :) rich-c: actually, we have found for Toronto that the Environment Canada forecasts are usually more reliable than weather network Ron: if you're a serviceperson, you don't want to go there BobS: as in.......away form his comp;uter for a little while Guy B.: That's the term the military uses if you left the base without permission. Pamela: they get their forecasts from Environment Canada Dad - how can they be less accurate? Pamela: I live by the Weather Network Pamela: and they've been right every day this week rich-c: Weather Network do their own tweaking, apparently, but they aren't as good guessers when the patterns can shift either way Ron: weather forecasting is an inexact science requiring a Phd in meteorological physics....so at least it's an educated guess Pamela: how about we agree to disagree, Dad rich-c: anyway the Star uses EC, the Globe uses WN, and we find the Star forecasts are the most accurate Pamela: I like that Ron james&case: bonjour Ron: :) james&case: sorry for the delay. was busy with my son rich-c: but the Globe has the better weather map even though it isnt in colour Pamela: aha - the wanderer returns Guy B.: Bye James FredK: brb james&case: bye guy! james&case: i'm afraid i can't stay Ron: how's Case ? james&case: case is.. energetic Pamela: boy, that was diplomatic Ron: James ...just before you go, a question rich-c: in that case, go do your thing, james, and see you next week Ron: We're proposing the Chat at 7pm PDT here.... does that affect you either way? james&case: sure thing, ron james&case: 7pm pdt.. uhh.. let me figure that out rich-c: that's 10 Eastern james&case: that's.. 10 p.m. edt, right? Ron: yup Ron: Saturday Aug 9 james&case: ok, so 13 hours on that would be 11 a.m. here on .. sunday morning aug 10th Pamela: exactly Ron: if you say so sir james&case: that's 7 pm.. edt sat aug 9th evn there, right Guy B.: That would work out for you James james&case: so yeah, that should work well Ron: I lose track beyond Newfoundland Ron: no 7pm PDT Ron: Sat Aug 9 james&case: sorry. 7pm pdt Daniel Bienvenu: ok, it's 10pm for me... james&case: yeah, that's sunday morning at 11. perfect Ron: I'll send an all points Ron: good rich-c: repeat it a couple of times, Ron james&case: if someone could send an e-mail reminder, because there's a 90% chance that i'll forget Ron: willco rich-c: in this era of spam stoppers it may take a while to get through Ron: only 10% less than me James james&case: lol. james&case: i've marked it down using an analogue scripting device Ron: ah...very reliable.....better than electronic Ron: methinks Pamela: shocking - you own one of those??? rich-c: pen, or are you acculturating to brushes now ;-) james&case: heh heh. ball point pen james&case: no point in owning a pda where i am Daniel Bienvenu: @james: il fait encore très chaud chez toi? Ron: never needed anything like that until I retired Pamela: I have actually put my PDA aside until the new year Ron: Purple Denim Attire BobS: I LIKE that one Ron Ron: hey... there's what we need.... Purple Denim Pamela: be careful what you wish for, Ron : ) james&case: ok, i gotta jet. *pouf* Ron: I know.... BobS: bye james Pamela: bye James Ron: wanted purple Ron: t-shirts james&case: will see you all next week, and ron, that cheque should still be good by the time you get it ;) Pamela: but?? BobS: and????? Ron: but couldn't get the color scheme to work with the design Ron: would have been way more price wise
james&case left chat session rich-c: yeah, glaciers are better on blue Pamela: what colour scheme? Ron: night James/Case Ron: the island and the ADAMCON printing, and the flags Ron: and all Pamela: ah Daniel Bienvenu: I miss again a good chating session... Daniel Bienvenu: I was too late again Pamela: so, what colour are the shirts? Ron: so we're going to be grey again ........ Pamela: oh cool! rich-c: just got to get the sulks out of your computer, Daniel ;-) Ron: I said....anything but White Pamela: Grey is good Ron: white and I don't get along Pamela: goes with lots of stuff Guy B.: Boy, that's been awhile in that color. Ron: that's what my supplier suggested rich-c: and FWIW, Daniel, it took me four tries to get on here tonight too Pamela: I like, I like Pamela: Russell will like too Daniel Bienvenu: really? Ron: good....glad to hear that rich-c: now that I don't need a pocket for my lighter any more, I can start wearing my Adam t-shorts Pamela: oh lord, we'll end up matching again Daniel Bienvenu: you are talking about the adamcon.. this year? Ron: yes sir..... proposed design and colour of the T-shirts rich-c: yes, Daniel, seems its Java virtual machine was upsetting one of Windows' virtual machines Pamela: strange Dad, I had no trouble getting on Guy B.: Well folks, time for me to check the e-mail. I'll try for Saturday and I'm starting overtime Monday. So, expect me a little late next week. Pamela: okay Guy. Don't work too hard Daniel Bienvenu: bye guy rich-c: OK Guy, good luck with the USB ports, and maybe see you Saturday Ron: niters Guy rich-c: well, my machine has a strange gremlin that neither Norton nor the anti-virus can pick up Guy B.: The reports are piling up. I sure hope I find something there at the show. Ok, see you all. POOOF!!!! Pamela: just remember to check with me if we're all going to be together Dad so we don't end up dressing alike Ron: I have to depart as well..... so all of you be good
Guy B. left chat session Ron: or be careful Pamela: nite Ron' Pamela: or? Ron: you know the rest BobS: da word is AND rich-c: well, if I do wear one, Pam, I'll have my choice of 16 so your odds are good Pamela: ; Pamela: 0 Ron: poofie !! rich-c: biters Ron Pamela: 16? this is only AC15 rich-c: niters, that is Ron: :)
Ron left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: :) rich-c: sorry, daughter, after so many one loses count Pamela: how did you do that math? Pamela: okay Pamela: is this the first one you'll miss Dad? rich-c: no, I was also unable to get to 01 in Orlando Pamela: but you have an 01 T? rich-c: actually, if I'd been smart I likely could have not only gone, but at Board expense - hindsight is 20/20 Pamela: ain't it always rich-c: yes, at Adamcon 10 we got replica (version 1.1) 01 t-shirts Pamela: LOL
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left chat session rich-c: that was a quick in and out BobS: didn't even seee anone Pamela: yeah, I wonder who? rich-c: Pam, it will save postage if Ron sends all our t-shirts in one parcel Pamela: Bob, are all four of you going? BobS: a MYSRWERY Pamela: that's okay by me Dad BobS: yes m'am BobS: ma'm BobS: maa'm BobS: somethin kile that rich-c: shall we have him send it here since there will likely be someone home to receive it? Pamela: Actually, if he could manage to get to the Victoria shop, he could send them to me in the shop courier and avoid postage altogether Pamela: however, since that is probably out of the way, your plan is fine rich-c: I don't think he's going that far down island but you could send him an email Pamela: or have him send it to the office Pamela: where there's always someone to receive the mail BobS: we couold tkae them home with us and send them, but cross border will prolly cost as much as stright thru CA Pamela: exactly Bob rich-c: rather mor and a lot later - we want to be wearing them when we join you-all in the chat! Pamela: yeah - cool idea! BobS: AHHA BobS: and VE VILL SEE DAT Pamela: so we really need those final prices Bob so we can pay for the little beasties rich-c: far as I know we will be paying Ron direct Pamela: does he take Visa? rich-c: no, but I can send a cheque covering all three and let you ransom yours when they arrive Pamela: I might take you up on that Dad but I'm afraid if I do it'll be months before I get around to paying you BobS: his website doe not have the registration form on it...think he blew it up BobS: that had the tshirt prices also BobS: was set @ $10 us so figure out ca Pamela: Bob, I thought you said that the larger ones were more rich-c: I'm hoping he'll email me as soon as he knows BobS: heck I don't remember Pamela: you JUST said it an hour ago Pamela: I have two words for you . . . BobS: he HAd the stuff on the wevbsite, but i just wne there and it only does the header and says "doine" rich-c: no, Ron said it, and XXXL is more Pamela: um, hang on while i remember them Pamela: : ) BobS: got to go here kids BobS: bedtime and all BobS: got to save up for late nights at AC15t rich-c: it is that time, isn't it, Bob? Pamela: yes, I gues it is that time rich-c: see you nect week, then Pamela: sigh BobS: SO see ya's later
BobS left chat session rich-c: OK, night now, Bob Pamela: wow, that was fast Pamela: Dad, how are you feeling? rich-c: in fact time us old folks got our shuteye, too rich-c: better today but yesterday was rough, Pam Pamela: another spell? rich-c: your mother took a close look and said she wasnt riding to CPL with anyone who looked like that rich-c: yes, pretty dopey and badly off my feed Pamela: I guess pasty isn't her favourite colour, huh? rich-c: not when she's a passenger beside ti, no rich-c: did manage to get the shopping done today though, and other errands Pamela: I asked Ally tonite about her reactions post-surgery, and she said that all the symptoms disappeared except the occasional bout of diahrrea rich-c: and the phsio seems off to a good start Pamela: that's good Pamela: Allyson also said that she has problems if she doesn't eat in the morning, but that shouldn't be a problem for you rich-c: well, now I just need North York General to get back in business, so to speak Pamela: so no date yet? rich-c: no, but I'm hoping it will be fairly soon Pamela: yeah me too for your sake Pamela: keep me posted, okay? FredK: back rich-c: it should make me somewhat easier to live with FredK: wow lots gone since! rich-c: anyway, I have to go now Pamela: okay. I'm for bed too. We're at the trailer this weekend if you need us Pamela: up Friday, home Sunday evening FredK: rich-c, bonne nuit, bon sommeil rich-c: yes, Fred, onze heures seems to be our witching hour rich-c: OK bonne nuit Fred et Daniel, good night daughter FredK: Pam, good night! Pamela: Nite Daddy - feel better Pamela: Goodnight, mon ami rich-c: colour me gone
rich-c left chat session FredK: good night Pamela: I always wanted to know what colour that was . . . anyway, I'm outta here. Bonsoir Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: well, I suppose we are only 3 now Daniel Bienvenu: oops... two Pamela: pouf Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Pam!
Pamela left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: Fred? FredK: Dan , quand jetais gone, il en avait 8 a peu pres FredK: Franglais! Daniel Bienvenu: :) Daniel Bienvenu: Fred, est-ce vrai que tu organises un Adamcon pour l'année prochaine? FredK: rich-c trouvais ca interressant, parcontre, je vois que cest beaucoup de preparation Daniel Bienvenu: mais tu as un an pour y penser... c'est pas mal FredK: Pas mal, parcontre je ne saurais ou commencer de plus, je ne connait rien en info. a comparer a ce que je lis de la plupart de vous Daniel Bienvenu: d'un autre côté, organiser le adamcon est plus une question de logistique: trouver un lieu approprié par exemple. FredK: je suis dac, parcontre a tu vu toute la discussion concernant les connextions et articles , et services ...etc. Daniel Bienvenu: non, j'en ai manqué un grand bout FredK: Dan, jai comencer apprendre le C depuis Janvier sur Linternet, commencer a lire un peu sur les fenetres windows...... FredK: en Mai, maintenant je cherche comprendre ASM, je ne suis pas du tout avance, jaimerais bien savoir ou commencer en ASM presentement FredK: As tu fait un grand cours? Daniel Bienvenu: Tu utilises du visual C++? du VisualBASIC, du Delphi, du borland C++? FredK: Bloodshed FredK: DevC++ Daniel Bienvenu: j'ai fait un cours d'assembleur pour PowerPC il y a quelques années FredK: Universitaire? Daniel Bienvenu: J'utilisais Metroworks CodeWarrior Daniel Bienvenu: oui, à l'université FredK: compilateur ou utilitaire? Daniel Bienvenu: le problème avec l'assembleur c'est que la mnémonique est basé à la fois sur le CPU utilisé et sur le compilateur assembleur utilisé. FredK: Ah ok Daniel Bienvenu: La meilleure preuve c'est que j'ai vu plusieurs syntaxe, mnémoniques différentes pour du Z80. Daniel Bienvenu: Z80ASM est différent de TASM par exemple Daniel Bienvenu: et il y a des compilateur assembleur qui acceptes les macros, d'autres non. FredK: k FredK: jai eu le Hackers helper de richc Daniel Bienvenu: L'idée de base de l'assembleur est assez simple dans le fond: il faut penser comme si on était le CPU. Daniel Bienvenu: on a des registres, des accès mémoire, une pile (stack) et aussi des interruptions... tout plein de choses folement amusantes Daniel Bienvenu: Je préfère programmer en C car c'est un peu plus près du language naturel. Daniel Bienvenu: Je me suis acheté le Borland C++ Builder 5 professional pour 50$ la semaine passée FredK: Non! FredK: Il me semble que cest tres dispendieux normalement Daniel Bienvenu: J'ai joué un peu avec les codes BMP2PP et ADAMEM pour tenter de faire un ému coleco pour Windows mais finalement, je me suis arrêté à l'affichage d'une image généré par calcul. Daniel Bienvenu: Oui, le Borland C++Builder? Oui, assez cher! environ 160$ Daniel Bienvenu: Il y avait une vente au Camelot. FredK: il a une version gratuite sur linternet, mais je suis sure quil menque des aspects pratiques plus avances pour toi Daniel Bienvenu: j'ai la version Borland C++ (non builder) v5.02 qui manque effectivement une librairie dont j'ai besoin. FredK: BMP2PP? Daniel Bienvenu: BMP2PP par Marcel de Kogel a été fait sur Borland C++ builder Daniel Bienvenu: C'est pour transformer une image BMP en format PP (PowerPaint) de Adam FredK: Ah oui, je avoir vu cela dans ton e-mail sem. passee Daniel Bienvenu: Mais... Daniel Bienvenu: que comptes-tu faire en ASM? FredK: Je croyais simplement c'etait le language que tu connaissait, et le meilleur! Daniel Bienvenu: le ASM pour PC? connais pas. Daniel Bienvenu: le ASM pour MAC? j'en ai fait un peu. Daniel Bienvenu: le ASM pour Commodore 64? j'en ai fait Daniel Bienvenu: le ASM pour Coleco? j'en ai fait mais vraiment très peu FredK: Donc si je continue a bucher pour apprendre le C approfondit, cela est la suggestion? Daniel Bienvenu: le ASM pour Atari 2600? c'est le même CPU que le Commodore C64 mais la programmation est plus difficile à cause de la chip graphique Daniel Bienvenu: et bien, je te dirais que si tu veux programmer un jeu coleco, le mieux serait d'apprendre le C pour commencer et l'ASM pour améliorer Daniel Bienvenu: pour améliorer dans le sens optimiser. Daniel Bienvenu: un jeu coleco 32K programmé en C pourait être refait en ASM en 24K-28K Daniel Bienvenu: tout dépend de ce que tu veux faire Daniel Bienvenu: la majorité de mes outils et informations sont basés sur la programmation en C FredK: dac, faut bien savoir ou sen aller, moi si je commence, je vais essayer de voir des exemples sur ton site!! javais commencer un peu... Daniel Bienvenu: James a fait la même chose... et depuis une semaine déjà, on se parle sur Yahoo Messenger (du support en ligne) Daniel Bienvenu: James a commencé par modifier l'exemple SSHOW FredK: Oui, moi javais un probleme!! je me rappel Daniel Bienvenu: Il s'est servi de BMP2PP pour convertir une photo de Case. Il a ensuite remplacé l'image de l'autopsy par Case. Daniel Bienvenu: Il a eu une erreur de compilation. J'ai dû lui dire comment faire et il a compris. Daniel Bienvenu: Il a imprimé ma documentation de programmation coleco et il a appris très rapidement FredK: documentation programmation coleco? je dois faire de meme, mais Daniel as tu le temps et patience pour un debutant, soyez honete an? Daniel Bienvenu: Of course! je suis souvent en ligne sur Yahoo Messenger avec le nickname "newcoleco". Si tu as besoin d'une réponse rapide à un problème, vas me parler sur Yahoo! Daniel Bienvenu: Ces temps-ci, j'ai beaucoup de choses à faire mais je prend le temps de répondre aux questions FredK: ok dabbord, ref. vite vite ou je trouve doc. program. coleco, estce evident trouver sur ton site? Daniel Bienvenu: Donne-moi ton e-mail, je vais t'envoyer une version à jour que je n'ai pas eu le temps de mettre sur mon site. FredK: Fred_et_Sylvie_k@hotmail.com FredK: Daniel, des fois je ne comprends pas vite, due au manque de connaissances, parcontre suffit que je le sache et je suis parti, je suis borner et lache pas prise! Daniel Bienvenu: Je n'en doute pas! :) FredK: En remerciant beaucoup pour ton temps, cest ben genereux et apprecie Daniel Bienvenu: Je t'envoie le compilateur hi-tech c avec les librairies? FredK: si tu peut, je ne pense pas lavoir downloader FredK: seulement lautre..... Daniel Bienvenu: Bon, je t'envoie uine archive zip. Tu n'as qu'à le désarchiver sur ton disque à un endroit assez facile d'accès. Daniel Bienvenu: En espérant que je puisses t'envoyer ça par e-mail... c'est 1Meg FredK: ok, Dan,maybe avant de lenvoyer, je vais confirmer, si jai fait le 1er exemple je dois lavoir avec la librairie, svp je vais confirmer.....sec FredK: Jai le fichier 22Nice avec header files et lib. files, donc je dois tout avoir non? FredK: dans fichier Z80 Daniel Bienvenu: en théorie oui... as-tu un fichier nommé getput1.lib ? FredK: yes Daniel Bienvenu: alors oui... tu as déjà tout ce qu'il te faut. FredK: oui, quand je FredK: jai eu lerreur, le compilateur a pris un .Rom du fichier COLECO.ROM Daniel Bienvenu: Comment? What? FredK: excuse... je veut dire, quand jai fait la compilation de lexemple la 1ere fois..... FredK: le fichier result.rom, netais pas reconnu.... FredK: donc il a pris le fichier COLECO.ROM au lieu, je ne sait pas comment.... Daniel Bienvenu: le fichier result.rom devait être de taille 0 FredK: exact Daniel Bienvenu: la compilation n'avait pas réussi FredK: non, lordi, ne reconnaissait pas le fichier reslult.ROM comme etant un fichier ROM Daniel Bienvenu: D'habitude c'est qu'il manquait quelque chose pour transformer les fichiers OBJ en un fichier ROM FredK: Apres avoir clicker sur o.k. le resultat fut lecran du Coleco.Rom.... FredK: ce quil manque je ne sait pas du tout... Daniel Bienvenu: Est-ce que tu utilises CCI? FredK: je crois lexemple lutilisait oui! FredK: javais cocher GETPUT 1 comme demande Daniel Bienvenu: hotmail refuse le courrier... Je recommence FredK: Je vais refaire lexemple et donner plus de nouvelles.... pour mon addresse e-nmail cest FredK: firstname.lastname@example.org FredK: en cas! FredK: je peut repliquer a ton e-mail de la derniere fois? Daniel Bienvenu: minute Daniel Bienvenu: Yahoo me demande d'attacher à nouveau les fichiers Daniel Bienvenu: Je crois que le courrier était trop gros FredK: je vais my faire avec celui sur linternet, ne pas vous importuner, cest correct, merci tout de meme! Daniel Bienvenu: I think you received my e-mail now FredK: recu! FredK: Merci FredK: Daniel, je dois aller me coucher, cela me permettera de m'avancer demain peut-etre! Daniel Bienvenu: Pour revenir à SSHOW. Il est possible que tous les fichiers C n'ont pas été compilés... ou bien il y a une erreur qui fait en sorte que le LINKER ne trouver pas un élément nécessaire tel un tableau (une image) ou une routine (librairie). FredK: dans lexemple il ny avait que 2 fichiers c parcontre je crois! Daniel Bienvenu: il y aau moins deux fichiers pour les images et un fichier pour le programme d'affichage des images FredK: music et test.c sont dans le cadre blanc, Getput1 est cocher, faut il autre chose? Daniel Bienvenu: «Si tu préfères me parler sur Yahoo Messenger, vas-y! Si tu préfères m'écrire tes questions par e-mail, vas-y! " FredK: ok FredK: cest bien, bonsoir et merci encore Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: ok! il est possible que le programme test que tu veux compilé utilise getput 2. getput 2 n'est plus supporté FredK: ok, on se reparle, je dois disparaitre! Daniel Bienvenu: bye FredK: Salut!
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