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moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: hey, aboput time someone showed up!
changed username to Barbie Barbie: lo Barbie: l Barbie: hi ther uncle richard Barbie: how r u?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: lessee - that ought to be Rin
changed username to Pamela Barbie: nope Barbie: ree Barbie: hi pam rich-c: OK - and, hi, daughter Pamela: nope, it's not - it's me Pamela: Hi, Rie Pamela: Hi, Dad
moved to room Meeting Place Barbie: hi there rich-c: sheesh! everyone appears at once! Barbie: i brought them all Barbie: lol Pamela: sorry, downloaded my email first - all 25 of them rich-c: then presumably that ought to be Rin Pamela: oh, who knows
changed username to Dr.D. rich-c: when I went on today I had 77 emails - all spam Pamela: I've given up guessing. Hi, Rich rich-c: hello Rich Barbie: lol Dr.D.: I was a human being once... Pamela: scuse me, gotta go kill a cat Dr.D.: but grading LEGO lab design notebooks has destroyed my brain... Barbie: oh oh rich-c: but after a night at the showing of LOTR III... rich-c: no LOTR on opening night? Dr.D.: Nope, not for me this time. Pamela: were they that bad, Rich? rich-c: you should have seen the goings-on here - costume ball at Medieval Times, charter bus to teh theatre, everyone in costume Dr.D.: Not all of them so bad, but just long...and 15 of them. Dr.D.: Nevermind that the Egg Hunt on the 13th was the worst one ever, in 17 semesters. Dr.D.: I am not well-disposed toward this bunch. rich-c: why, what went wrong? Barbie: so pam what's new? Pamela: not much, Rie. Got all my Christmas shopping done in one night though Barbie: lol Barbie: cool Barbie: what did u bye me? Pamela: 'twas a very short list this year Pamela: lots of love : )
moved to room Meeting Place Barbie: it easier that way Dr.D.: The robots performed terribly. Barbie: lol
changed username to Guy B. Pamela: no $$ Barbie: is that my doodle bug? Pamela: hello, Guy Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Barbie: i feel ur pain pam rich-c: hello guy, glad to see you're early tonight Dr.D.: Of the 7 rounds, 2 were stopped early because all the robots (except my Cambot) had died. Guy B.: Got the DSL working fine now. Pamela: Got your Christmas card today, Rie - thank you Barbie: ur welcome Dr.D.: And a 3rd round would have been stopped early for the same reason, except that there was only a minute left in the round. rich-c: glad to hear it, Guy rich-c: I'd like to have it but it's very expensive here Guy B.: And even ICS works. rich-c: ICS? Pamela: I'd like you to have it too - then I could get you on the phone! Barbie: pam have u spoken to erin at all? Pamela: nope, not a peep today Barbie: ok Barbie: i talked to her yesterday Barbie: after she got home from her party Guy B.: Internet Connection Sharing. I can share another computer with the DSL connection. Pamela: haven't heard from her since Thursday Pamela: she's been very busy Barbie: oic rich-c: OK, helps if you're networked, I gather Pamela: she's supposed to come home this weekend, right? rich-c: so Rich, how come the computers didn't last? bad programming stalled them? Barbie: yes sery bob Dr.D.: Bad programming, bad LEGO design. Dr.D.: Just bad robots. Dr.D.: Bad students. Barbie: can't wait Pamela: gee, Marie, you sound cheerful at the prospect Guy B.: Yes, that's what I did. I had to get another Ethernet card for the DSL and used the onboard Ethernet for connecting to one of the other systems. Pamela: there's always next semester Rich Dr.D.: Too many of them waited til the last minute to test their robots. Pamela: remember, you can always bring us in to show them how it's done Barbie: I DO'T LIKE IT WHEN ERIN'S NOT AROUND Dr.D.: Don't I know it, Pam; I gotta start prep for it next week. Dr.D.: Hahaha. Pamela: I know, Marie. I sympathize Guy B.: Dr. D, did those students of yours rushed to get their projects in by the deadline? Pamela: it's hard getting used to not having your best friend around all the time Dr.D.: *Laughing at Pam's comment, not at Marie* Barbie: erin's serisly my inly girl frined Dr.D.: Haha Guy, they had the public contest as the deadline :-) Dr.D.: Also, there were several logistical issues that made this truly the Egg Hunt From Hell. Guy B.: Oh, so they messed up then. Dr.D.: First, the T-shirt vendor conveniently went out of business less than a week before my order (placed before Thanksgiving) was supposed to be delivered. rich-c: fine old university tradition, never have it ready before deadline Guy B.: Did you manage to find someone else? Dr.D.: Fortunately, the ex-VP of the company, with whom I've dealt since 1995, took the job to another vendor for me and got them done, one day before the Egg Hunt. Dr.D.: About 19 hours before, to be exact. Pamela: Dad, did you get out for groceries today before it snowed? Guy B.: How many T-shirts? Dr.D.: Then, our Caravan having died last Wednesday, and Joan working evenings and being on call to work the first half of night shift, made for, um "interesting" transportation arrangements. Dr.D.: Like me going in at 4 AM to pick her up, staying on campus while she went home. Dr.D.: About 35 shirts, Guy. Dr.D.: Then on Egg Hunt morning, the battery in the U-Haul truck was totally dead. Dr.D.: One hour before departure. Dr.D.: Engine turned over weakly twice and then nothing. rich-c: this was definitely not your week for wheels, Rich Guy B.: Boy, everything went wrong there. How did you cope? Dr.D.: I had to call CWRU security to get it jumped. Pamela: Have you not replaced the van yet Rich? rich-c: bet they wre better and faster than AAA Dr.D.: Once the truck was started, I let it run until we had actually arrived at the Science Center and unloaded. Dr.D.: We replaced the van on Monday night, Pam. Dr.D.: The old one is to be driven to Our Lady of The Wayside for junking on Saturday morning. Dr.D.: The new one is a used 2003 Grand Caravan (7400 miles). Dr.D.: It was the same price as a new 2004 regular Caravan with smaller engine. Pamela: woohoo! Guy B.: Not bad Dr D. rich-c: ha, that isnt even broken in, Rich Dr.D.: 3.3 L V6 and Captain's chairs for the middle seat, to keep Christina and Elanor from fighting. Pamela: brb, folks - gotta go check something Dr.D.: So I could tow a half trailer of luggage if need be. rich-c: sounds like the cats are into something again Dr.D.: So, the next ADAMcon I drive to, you'll undoubtedly see it. rich-c: what is the actual tow rating on that one, Rich? Dr.D.: I don't know, I'd have to look. Dr.D.: It's the smaller of the 2 V6s available for the Grand Caravan, so I Dr.D.: I'm sure it couldn't tow your camper, for instance. rich-c: you can't tell from the manual, it will depend on whether it has the trailer package Dr.D.: But I don't want that, just the capability to rent a U-Haul thingy for luggage or college-bound junk if needed. Dr.D.: It doesn't have a tow bar on it right now, I don't think. rich-c: well even the bare ones will haul 1000 lbs, I believe Dr.D.: I just want the capability in future, if needed. Dr.D.: Right now, if all 6 of us went anywhere overnight, we'd have to go in 2 vehicles. rich-c: you could likely find out on tl.com, Rich rich-c: Guy, does it interest you to know Tiger Direct are advertising in Canada now? Dr.D.: No vacations are imminent, so I am not worrying about it yet :-) Dr.D.: So you are all lonesome tonight, Marie?
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changed username to Guy B. Dr.D.: It's a brace of Guys! Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. Netscape crashed. rich-c: oh dear, Guy, the DSL poop out on you?
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Barbie confirmed ban Dr.D.: Netscape likes to choke on this chat client after a while.
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Ok, let's try again. rich-c: my experience with Netscape was it choked on anything rich-c: it was very good at spying on me though and sending the information who knows where
Guy B. left chat session Dr.D.: Why just don't do anything you're ashamed of and you won't care who knows about it :-) :-) Barbie: hi everybody Dr.D.: That's what Homeland Security would say (probably do say). rich-c: well, I don't want a compter like Maries, that can be sending her bank account number and stuff like that out Dr.D.: Hi Marie, I asked if you were lonesome tonight. You seemed to be when I first logged in. Dr.D.: Hope nothing bad has happened... Barbie: i am Barbie: well more boared rich-c: well, Marie had Comet Cursor on her computer, one of the most notorious pieces of spyware Barbie: i still have it Barbie: is it bad? Dr.D.: ??? Can't you get rid of it? rich-c: long as you don't mind the whole internet being able to read every keystroke you make, that's fine Dr.D.: It records all of your keystrokes...it can harvest passwords. Barbie: what does that mea?' Dr.D.: So it can then get into anyplace you can. rich-c: Marie, I left either AdAware or SpyBot on your computer to clean those things out - you should use them Dr.D.: If you buy something online and type in a credit card number, it will grab it from your typing. Barbie: i don't know what that is Barbie: how do i find them uncle richard? rich-c: OK AMarie - go to pricelessware.org which has all sorts for free software Barbie: ok rich-c: after the entry page click on "security" Barbie: ok rich-c: then click on anti-spyware rich-c: actually as you scroll down the security page it will be the first listing Barbie: ok rich-c: if you go to the company page (lavasoft.de) it will explain what spyware is all about Barbie: antispyware tools? rich-c: that's what you want, yes Barbie: do i download thst?
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela: Sorry folks - I'm back now, and caught up rich-c: to learn about the dangers you face on the internet, go to grc.com and read just about everything ;-)
changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. I had to reboot. Pamela: Guy, just how many clones do you have? rich-c: yes, then evrything else that grc recommends, too Barbie: so doenload it? rich-c: yes, download that, and SpyBot as well (also listed there) rich-c: then go to grc for teh links to the other stuff rich-c: Rich, I gather the anti-spam bill is now law in the U.S. - is that right? Dubya just signed it Dr.D.: He may have scrawled his "X" in crayon on it, but I have seen no diminution in spam to my mailboxes. Dr.D.: Question for the Canadian contingent: have you ever heard of Conestoga College? rich-c: neither have I; I had 77 when I went online today (new record) and have been getting more every ten minutes since Pamela: it rings a faint bell Rich, but I don't know why or where it is Barbie: is there a way i can check if i have any virises? rich-c: yes, that's up Kitchener way; a community college if I recall with a good local reputation Dr.D.: It's in Kitchener. Pamela: okay. You learn something new . . . Pamela: so, why do you ask? Dr.D.: Three professors from their Electronics department, including the Chairman, flew into Cleveland Saturday morning to watch the Egg Hunt. Pamela: ah yes, I remember you mentioning that a couple of weeks ago rich-c: Yes, Marie, just download your choice of Avast, Anti-Vir or AVG anti-virus programs - all are free and on pricelessware Dr.D.: After it was over, and everything was packed up and returned to CWRU, I went back downtown to their hotel (the Marriott, very fancy) and had dinner with them for 3 hours. Pamela: wow, very nice Dr.D.: They had a great time, and were really the bright spot of the day for me. rich-c: I trust you had a pleasant time Dr.D.: They want to start their own Autonomous Robotics course. rich-c: our colleges have some pretty neat people on staff Pamela: what would that entail? Dr.D.: I might also end up as an external reviewer for their program, as they have to do some stuff to get the government to approve it in some fashion (a bit foggy on the details). Dr.D.: They just were granted the right to award bachelors degrees. rich-c: you remember Kitchener is the twin city with Waterloo? Dr.D.: Yes...I remember being in Kitchener for ADAMcon 007. Dr.D.: I told them that, and they saw the twin ADAMs at the Egg Hunt. Dr.D.: They thought it was great. Pamela: are you downloading, Marie? Dr.D.: And when I told them I knew about Canadian Tire selling them, they were tickled to death that I knew about CT. Dr.D.: How could I help it, after all your and Ron's talk over the years? :-) rich-c: if she isa she is going to be a while - the anti-virus programs are good but multi megabytes Pamela: yes, Canadian Tire is an institution here rich-c: you should have made a comment about Tim Horton's, too Dr.D.: Forgot about TH, I did. Dr.D.: Anyway, I think it likely that in the next year I will have some excuse or other to go visit them professionally. Pamela: but Timmy's has gone to the States, have they not? Dr.D.: Dunno, Pam. Pamela: none in Cleveland? Dr.D.: It would probably mutate into something icky if it did. rich-c: they have a toe in the water, so to speak, Pam, but very little Dr.D.: Not that I know of; I could look in the phone book... Pamela: I thought that they had partnered with Wendy's in the US. rich-c: they'll be there; they are merged with Wendy's Pamela: only to a limited degree, I guess Pamela: well I must admit Rich that I much prefer McDonald's in Canada
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) rich-c: (it's OK Rich, I don't know her ;-0) Pamela: why thank you, kind sir : ) Pamela: you LIE! rich-c: you don't expect me to admit I know a McDonald's user, do you? Pamela: you can't get away with it Dad - complete strangers know I belong to you Pamela: absolutely Dr.D.: An unprintable Wendy's joke just bubbled up from my memory, told to me by a college friend who used to work at one... rich-c: your mother would excommunicate me Dr.D.: Funny but nasty. Pamela: well, don't tell her then - how do you think I did it all these years? : ) Pamela: besides, every once in a while I bribe her with McD's fries rich-c: yes, those are very hard on her resistance, I;ve heard Pamela: make a note to tell it in person, Rich Dr.D.: You will likely hit me... Pamela: nay sir, you cannot say anything I haven't already heard : ) Dr.D.: There are no words in it that can't be said on TV...it's just the combination, of course... Dr.D.: ANyway, I always liked Wendy's. rich-c: Guy, you still with us or is Netscape crashing again? Dr.D.: They had the neatest formica on the tables...all reprints of old 1895 catalogues. Pamela: I prefer McD's - but don't tell my parents ; ) Pamela: for some reason, I've always found Wendy's food to be very bland Dr.D.: You could eat your Triple and Biggie Fries while reading about artificial legs and some iron tonic good for "women's problems" and "vitality". rich-c: well, yesterday I had to eat lunch out, and I chose Tim Hortons Pamela: the one exception to that is the Smoky Bacon Cheeseburger rich-c: thought later I might have tried Second Cup as an option Dr.D.: Dave's Deluxe was a good one they don't sell now. Dr.D.: Not since, well, Dave passed on :-( Pamela: Second Cup doesn't have much in the way of lunch food, Dad Dr.D.: He actually stopped at the Wendy's near us once, about 10 years ago, and worked the grill during lunch hour. Dr.D.: He liked to do that, show everyone that he hadn't forgotten his roots. Pamela: He was known for doing that Rich rich-c: no, but when you just want a sandwich and coffe, they'll do Pamela: IMHO, Timothy's is better. So why were you out? rich-c: dental appointment, and needed to kill some time while the penecillin took effect Dr.D.: Are you allowed to drive now, Richard? rich-c: computer cant spell Pamela: and how is our dear Dr. Closner? Dr.D.: Please don't tell me you're cheating on your orthopaedist... Pamela: correction: computer operator can't spell rich-c: don't know, Rich, don't see the doctor till tomorrow rich-c: but I've been driving for a bit over a week ;-) Dr.D.: I hope you get a good report. Dr.D.: You are a bad boy! Dr.D.: Talk to him, Pam! Pamela: I have confidence in him, Rich - he wouldn't do it if he didn't feel capable rich-c: oh, she's relieved that I can take her mother shopping Pamela: and Mom wouldn't let him if she didn't feel he was ready Dr.D.: ROTFL Dr.D.: to Richard's comment, that is. Pamela: heck Dad, i only took Mom once - she's so darn stubborn, she wouldn't ask me for help rich-c: actually, the Safari is so suitable for handicap operation I could have driven it home from the hospital Dr.D.: Well, I'll feel better if your doctor says it's okay tomorrow. Pamela: of course, first you would have had to have it at the hospital - I shudder to think of the parking charges : ) Barbie: pam have u heard anythign else about ur job? Dr.D.: I hope you're otherwise ambulatory without pain or difficulty. rich-c: well, I could have let you bring it down for me Pamela: not yet, Marie - I don't expect to hear anything till well after the first of the year Dr.D.: Pam is working for the Minister of Food or something, right? Dr.D.: Not Pam, Rin. Dr.D.: Duh Pamela: I did that anyway, Dad : ) I just brought it home, too rich-c: yes Rich, haven't taken so much as a Tylenol since I left hospital rich-c: of course the movement restrictions apply and will for some time yet Dr.D.: That's very encouraging, Richard. Guy B.: Sorry, that I was quiet. Got a phone call. Barbie: agriculture Pamela: Erin is working for the Minister of Agriculture Pamela: now all we have to do is get you to quit favouring your left side when you walk, Dad rich-c: Marie, gather you got the downloads Dr.D.: So if I write a letter to the Minister, she'll be the one to select the correct form-letter reply and stamp the Minister's signature on it? :-) Barbie: there still going y? Pamela: I will be actively looking for new employment in the new year Barbie: i'll hire u pam Pamela: no, she's the MPP liaison Dr.D.: You aren't laid off yet, are you, Pam? rich-c: OK - when you remove spyware from programs, they sometimes stop working so consider that when you make your decisions Dr.D.: Liaison mean...?
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela: no Rich, but I don't want to be there much longer - it's becoming an impossible situation
changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Guy B.: Hi Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: i know... i know... I'm late! Dr.D.: Hi Daniel, congratulations on successfully completing your M.S. thesis! rich-c: just like you absolutely need Zone Alarm (zonelabs.com) but it may give you a hard time setting it up Pamela: if one of the MPPs has a question about her Ministry, Erin is the one who fields the question , does the research and finds the answers Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Guy, Pam, Rich, Dr.D and ... Barbie? rich-c: he, bonjour, Daniel! Daniel Bienvenu: Thanks Dr.D Pamela: allo, Daniel Dr.D.: "Where did I leave my coat?" "Right here, Minister" :-) Pamela: Barbie = Marie, Daniel Barbie: hi there Pamela: no no Rich, the other MPPs - not her own Barbie: i don't know my computer is running fine Dr.D.: I am yawning a mile wide...I was hoping Ron would've shown up by now. Dr.D.: Is he still trapped on the Island? rich-c: I have been explaining to Marie whre to get teh defensive programs she needs Pamela: nope Dr.D.: I couldn't resist the joke, Pam. Daniel Bienvenu: hi Marie! I have no Marie in my database. Pamela: oh, I know that Rich Barbie: if it's not broken y fix it?????/ Dr.D.: Marie Antoinette...Marie Curie...Marie Roget (very mysterious)...Marie, the dawn is breaking... (only Richard will get that one) Daniel Bienvenu: I suppose it's the first time I meet Marie then. rich-c: because of what's happening behind your back, Marie Pamela: Marie is Erin's friend from Windsor, Daniel - a pseudo-cousin of mine so to speak Dr.D.: That sounds like a Hitchhiker's Guide term, Pam. Barbie: oic rich-c: it's like using an ATM whre some crook has installed a card skimmer to swipe your password Barbie: oh Pamela: I made it up Rich - you like it? : ) Dr.D.: Yes. rich-c: anyway, some programs with spyware in them work when it's removed, some don't Barbie: my nortons Dr.D.: It's a blood relative you can have by invitation. Pamela: what else do you call the best friend of one cousin who was dating the other and living with the family for four years? Dr.D.: So Pam, be my pseudo-cousin! Barbie: 'a isn't working and hasn't been for some time rich-c: some spyware is relatively innocent, other kinds are deadly Barbie: more then that now pm rich-c: your Norton isn't working? what's the matter with it? Pamela: I'll be happy to Rich - but you have to date my relatives first : ) Barbie: i don't knwo Dr.D.: I think the HHGTTG term was "semicousin". Ford and Zaphod were semicousins, whatever *that* is. Barbie: is AVG anti-virus good?? Pamela: i'm sure there was an explanation in the book Rich rich-c: all three of the free anti-viruses, odlly enough, are better than Norton or McAfee Barbie: Pam loves me Dr.D.: Well, I think I am going to retire for the evening, ladies and gentlemen. Pamela: I just can't remember where it is, or find it in my version of the snake pit Dr.D.: Only 4 more design notebooks to grade... Pamela: you're easy to love, Marie Daniel Bienvenu: AVG think my CCI software contain a trojan horse virus. So, AVG is good but I experimented an alert where there are no virus. rich-c: OK Rich, quit before your eyeballs start spinning, OK? Barbie: i know Dr.D.: And grades aren't due until 2:30 PM tomorrow, so I think I can finish them. Pamela: and so modest! Dr.D.: So until whenever we're going to chat again, bye-bye. Barbie: pleaz don't confuse me now Dr.D.: I can't remember what day we picked. Barbie: bye dr d Pamela: Get some sleep, Rich rich-c: well, Daniel, you may have inadvertantly written something into it that matches a virus signature Dr.D.: But hopefully it will get mailed to the list. Dr.D.: Good night all.
Dr.D. left chat session Barbie: night rich-c: night Rich, take it easy Pamela: Did we settle on Dec 23rd? Guy B.: Night Dr D. Barbie: i'll be there Guy B.: I won't be here on the 24th. rich-c: no, I think we agreed on Christmas Eve Pamela: I think we're moving it, Guy rich-c: but nothing says we can't change it Daniel Bienvenu: rich: i found the answer in forums where the AVG software find "headers" in the language interpreter linked with the code... and also in the libraries of the compiler. Guy B.: Have to, I'll be at my aunt's that night. Pamela: I thought it was the 23rd - Rich won't be able to attend on 12/24 and neither will Guy Guy B.: Better try either Tuesday or Friday.
Barbie left chat session rich-c: then I guess we will have to shift it Daniel Bienvenu: you are talking about the next "chat session". except this saturday. Pamela: send a message to the list then rich-c: Marie, I use AVG on my laptop and Anti-Vir on my desktop Pamela: she disappeared, Dad Pamela: My preference would be Tuesday rich-c: yes, next "Wednesday" session; I hope to be on Saturday per usual Daniel Bienvenu: I'm using Norton Antivirus 2003 on my desktop computer... anyway, I don't have a laptop. rich-c: I have Norton System Works 2002 but I find it very clunky Pamela: actually to be more comprehensive, my preferences would be 12/23 and 01/01 rich-c: I am hoping to learn how to us3e WinFax which is packed with it soon Daniel Bienvenu: I buy Norton SystemWorks 2002 and (this year) 2003. Daniel Bienvenu: The only "bug" I found where after an update rich-c: I hope, Daniel, you know whre to buy it for a lot less than retail list rich-c: and frankly, once you have any edition of Norton, I doubt you need to buy the next' Pamela: Can we settle the dates issue please, guys? Daniel Bienvenu: the antivirus refused to start. the error message "link" to a web page who tells me to rename a file to fix this problem they don't understand. It was during spring rich-c: OK, 12/23 and 01/01 fly OK with me Pamela: Guy? Daniel Bienvenu: so, it now or never to wish you a merry christmas? Pamela: next Tuesday, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: ok, then Daniel Bienvenu: I hope I will not forget Pamela: are those dates okay wiht you Daniel? rich-c: or if you cant make that, this Saturday Daniel Bienvenu: tuesday... c'est mardi ou jeudi? Pamela: c'est Mardi rich-c: I will send an email around the Adam list, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: ok pour mardi. :) Pamela: le 23 de Decembre Pamela: Guy? Daniel Bienvenu: Guy? Daniel Bienvenu: 1..2.. testing! Pamela: we're getting yhou Daniel Pamela: however, Guy isn't paying attention Pamela: GUY! Daniel Bienvenu: I do this some times when the subject is not concerning coleco. Guy B.: Ok, 23rd is fine. Daniel Bienvenu: I read my mails and chat with another person at the same time Pamela: and New Years Day too? Guy B.: New Year's is Thursday. I'll be here on New Year's Eve. What about everyone else? Pamela: nope - everyone here is busy that night Guy B.: Ok, New Year's Day then. Pamela: great. Dad, will you send a message to the list? Daniel Bienvenu: anytime... except "Noel" rich-c: the message has been sent, watch your mailbox any minute now Pamela: thank you for your cooperation, gentlemen Daniel Bienvenu: (night of december 24... it's time to celebrate with my familly) rich-c: yes, Christmas Day is not a suitable Adam chat time Daniel Bienvenu: it takes some times Daniel Bienvenu: i still don't have it. rich-c: actually I expect to be free Christmas Eve but not New Yesrs Eve Pamela: I'll be wrapping on Christmas Eve - it's tradition : ) Pamela: actually, I hope I'll be done by then Pamela: but I'll still have to go get Russell from work rich-c: just so long as it doesn't snow too much New Years Eve as I have to go out Pamela: speak long and hard to JP Dad Pamela: in fact, don't even think anything but good thoughts about the weather Daniel Bienvenu: What could be next year? Daniel Bienvenu: 2004 it's the Olympic games Pamela: It's election year in the US Pamela: It's a leap year Daniel Bienvenu: 2004 it's 20th anniversary of the Coleco Adam? rich-c: when does Russell get off, Pam? Pamela: it's AC16 Pamela: finishes at midnight on Christmas Eve Pamela: back to work at 4:00pm Christmas day rich-c: merde Daniel Bienvenu: wo! tout de suite les gros mots! :) rich-c: it's OK, yourma got the turkey today Pamela: so, we'll go to Barbara's in the morning and I'll take him at least part way to work, then come over to your place Pamela: turkey! turkey! Pamela: why merde, Dad? rich-c: she got some cherries of the kind used for plum pudding, too Daniel Bienvenu: turkey.... la dinde, miam miam! J'ai bien la dinde Pamela: (je m'excuse, Daniel) Daniel Bienvenu: J'aime ça la dinde Pamela: moi aussi, Daniel Pamela: and since I don't cook turkey at home, it's a treat I get at best once or twice a year rich-c: pourquoi merde? it's a hell of a way to spend Christmas Day, sleeping and working Daniel Bienvenu: (tu n'as pas à t'excuser, c'est juste drôle) rich-c: je sais bien, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I know that "shit" means "merde" but sometimes I heard "shit de merde" et ça me fait bien rire rich-c: anyway, she got just the right size of turkey for our purposes, about 4 kilos Pamela: well, if I pick him up he'll get home faster, and be in bed earlier, so we can be up at a reasonable hour to go to Barbara's. And, if he dresses at least partially for work, he can go straight there and still have a decent night's sleep. rich-c: I assume, Daniel, that';s from anglophones who don't know any better Pamela: I'll bet it makes you laugh rich-c: or is it bilinguals who want to make the point in both languages? Pamela: if I'm really lucky, I'll get a nap in there somewhere too rich-c: I assume once you get him home you'll get some sleep in too, Pam Pamela: will there be leftovers Dad? rich-c: I think your mother has plans in that direction Pamela: no, I meant on Christmas Day, Dad. If we do it right, we can come home and I'll nap for a short while, then maybe I can take himto work, come to your place and pick him up afterwards Pamela: good, then he'll have dinner too rich-c: Daniel, I spend a lot of time on an automotive bulletin board, at Autoweek Daniel Bienvenu: Autoweek? Pamela: BTW, your email arrived about three minutes ago, Dad rich-c: they have one section where teh talk is anything except automobiles Daniel Bienvenu: I answered your e-mail. rich-c: OK, I haven't got my own copy of the email yet - go figure! Daniel Bienvenu: you are a "chroniqueur automobile"? Pamela: well, chronic anyway : ) rich-c: at one time, Daniel; I did a fair bit of writing about auto racing in Canada rich-c: but Autoweek is a general interest weekly automotive magazine Daniel Bienvenu: I suppose you talked about the F1 race in Montreal and the "conflict" about tobaco publicity. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm wrong? rich-c: you can look at their webiste (autoweek.com) for an idea of their typical content rich-c: I'm aware of all that, Daniel, but I stopped writing professionally in 1972 Pamela: more's the pity Dad rich-c: I juzt follow it as a fan nowadays Daniel Bienvenu: so, you did articles for the Autoweek bulletin board... for fun? nostalgia? rich-c: no, the bulletin board is open to anyone who wants to talk about anything rich-c: at the moment in the general discussions the threads are mostly political rich-c: but there's one talking about experiences with eBay, for instance Daniel Bienvenu: political? Daniel Bienvenu: ebay's politics? rich-c: remember it's an American magazine and opinions run strong down there right now Guy B.: Well folks, got to go. I'll see you all next Tuesday then. I have a LONGGGG vacation beginning on Monday and won't return to work until the 2nd of January. Pamela: okay everyone, it's time I sought my bed Pamela: I'm jealous, Guy - I don't finish till noon on the 24th rich-c: OK Guy, enjoy your time off and hope you can make the chats Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight Guy! Daniel Bienvenu: see you next week, Guy! Pamela: enjoy your vacation. Good night. Guy B.: Well, I have my last 54 days, plus the holidays, I got the 24th, 25th, 26th and January 1st off. Pamela: see you next week on Tuesday Guy B.: Thats' last 5 days. rich-c: OK daughter, I'll drop you an email if we need help with the milk, OK? Pamela: okay Dad Pamela: and I'm right behind Guy. Daniel Bienvenu: the milk? Pamela: long story, Daniel Guy B.: Bye everyone. Pamela: g'nite
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: Pamela will pick up the milk for us if it is too slippery for me to go out Daniel Bienvenu: ah ok! Pamela: I'm outta here. Until Tuesday then. Good night, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: and what is the story about "rolling eyes" with Dr.D? rich-c: at the moment I can't risk walking on a slippery surface Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Pam! Pamela: bonne nuit rich-c: nite Pam Pamela: G'nite, Daddy Pamela: kerpoof!
Pamela left chat session rich-c: oh, Rich was complaining about a huge pile of marking to be done rich-c: I was teasing him about reading so much his eyes wre solinning rich-c: sorry, were spinning Daniel Bienvenu: ok, it's why you say "quit before your eyeballs start spinnin" rich-c: right, you've got it rich-c: anyway the reason I ws telling you about the Autoweek chats is that the bulletin board program is very prissy Daniel Bienvenu: Outside here is more than slipey. water, ice and flotting snow on water. Daniel Bienvenu: and it'S raining Daniel Bienvenu: very prissy? any synonym? rich-c: it puts in asterisks in sh** or such - doesn't like "homo..." in any form rich-c: hard when you want to talk about ****logation of cars, for instance Daniel Bienvenu: Le texte est censuré d'une drôle de façon. :\ rich-c: prissy - a bit censorious, excessive fussy about vulgar speech rich-c: anyway, one of the contributors found your ASCII codes and the ALt + (number pad number) technique rich-c: so now he just substitutes other-font equivalents and defeats the censor rich-c: the rest of us just use "sh1t" or "hom0genized" or whatever to defect it rich-c: sorry, defeat it Daniel Bienvenu: Did you try to write the words french and France? if they don't like homo... they probably intolerant with these words too. rich-c: no, they just fuss about the scatological mainly rich-c: they don't like fvck but tolerate hell Daniel Bienvenu: When I went to the PhillyClassic in Philadelphia, I was chocked to see the word "french" striked in the menu for "french fries". rich-c: oh, that was just typical American idiocy - they wre mad at the French for not backing them in Iraq rich-c: on the bulletin board we have a majority of Americans who can't stand Bush rich-c: they have some hot battles with the self-styled "patriots" Daniel Bienvenu: The only joke we can do here is the sound "bush" is the same as "bouche" (mouth). rich-c: that's your advantage - Americans don't get bilingual jokes (well, most don't) rich-c: by the way, as long as you stick to formal French, I will usually get it rich-c: I am not good a writing replies off the top of the head, but have a good reading vocabulary Daniel Bienvenu: When someone say something and it was a stupidity.... the expression is "se mettre le pied dans la bouche". rich-c: sounds like a pretty literal translation of the English expressiion, in that case Daniel Bienvenu: There is a book named "pied dans la bush" with all the words Bush said and was really stupid rich-c: I suspect it's a translation but that's a clever title rich-c: anyway, Daniel, getting on towards bedtime here Daniel Bienvenu: here too rich-c: hope with luck to see you Saturday Daniel Bienvenu: I hope so... I can't promise rich-c: meanwhile just in case, joyeux noel Daniel Bienvenu: :) Daniel Bienvenu: Joyeux Noel à toi aussi rich-c: see you then - bye now Daniel Bienvenu: bye!
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