rich-c: hi Daniel, I'm in the main room
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changed username to TheEyeOfSauron rich-c: looks like we have Dr. D. on the scene TheEyeOfSauron: Good evening from the Eyeball Room of the Hotel Barad-dur. rich-c: I shiould remember that allusion, but I'm having a senior moment TheEyeOfSauron: J.R.R. Tolkien... rich-c: Sauron, yes, of course - goes to show TheEyeOfSauron: Did the doctor give you the A-OK last week? rich-c: gather you finally got to ROTK TheEyeOfSauron: Yes, 2x already. Daniel Bienvenu: ok, be right back TheEyeOfSauron: Once with Mrs. Sauron, the other with 4 of the Nazgul. rich-c: yes, doc said I'm progressing fine, but ran into great frustration
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changed username to james rich-c: you can actually get a CD made of all your x-rays for $10 james: good morning TheEyeOfSauron: Sounds like a great deal. Good to put on a website somewhere. rich-c: morning, james, enjoying Xmas Eve? james: not particularly
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changed username to Pamela james: not yet, anyway rich-c: problem is, they're DICOM files - one x-ray, 21 meg Pamela: I's here rich-c: good show, daughter rich-c: thaty's too much even for an upload to my ftp site james: hi pam Pamela: I's not awake, but I's here Pamela: hi james TheEyeOfSauron: They can be shrunk down, though, if you have the right software to read them, and enough HD space. rich-c: oh dear, what have you been up to now? Pamela: moi? TheEyeOfSauron: LOTR trilogy overload? rich-c: oui, toi Pamela: too much to do, not enough time to do it all rich-c: story of our lives, all of us TheEyeOfSauron: Time-turners are selling relatively cheap on E-bay these days, Pam. james: so how is everyone? how are you recovering rich? Daniel Bienvenu: I'm fine! rich-c: yes, full of spit and vinegar Pamela: cool, I could use one right about now james: lol TheEyeOfSauron: Only 75 Galleons. rich-c: just complaining to Rich that the files of my x-rays are too big to share - 21 meg each Pamela: 75 Galleons?? you call that cheap? TheEyeOfSauron: Dupe the CD and mail it to me, I can shrink 'em. TheEyeOfSauron: Time saved...priceless.... rich-c: OK, how do you do it? TheEyeOfSauron: I presume you have a CD-burner... james: eyeofsauron.. sounds like a dr. d pseudonym Pamela: lord, I've fallen into Mastercard land rich-c: like I think I can image teh CD to my hard disc and recopy down, but how do you shrink them Pamela: of course, James james: so how have you been pam? i've been absent for quite a few chats lately TheEyeOfSauron: Those X-ray files are like giant uncompressed greyscale TIFFs (maybe 600 dpi or greater). Pamela: I'm fine James, just way busy Pamela: Christmas came way to early for me this year. Here it is Dec. 23rd and I've not even started wrapping yet. james: yeah, i'm still deluding myself that i might actually catch up someday rich-c: yes, but what viewer will read them? other than the one on the disc, that is TheEyeOfSauron: A program like Photoshop or Paintshop Pro can probably read them, downsample to 72 dpi at a convenient size, with no loss of quality for the average non-medical curious person. TheEyeOfSauron: What's the file format name again? I will look in my copy of Photoshop. Pamela: Keep your delusions James - they're worth having james: it's all i've got to cling to right now :P rich-c: DCM Pamela: and how is your lady wife doing? james: quite fine. showing lots Pamela: when is she due? I've forgotten james: c-section is currently scheduled for may 16th Pamela: any particular reason for the C-section? james: so i get one month of relative calmness around april when my school schedule is less insane and before the new baby is born james: case was delivered by c-section so apparently the second has to be done that way also TheEyeOfSauron: Not true, James, not true... Pamela: well at least she'll be spared labour james: well that's what the doctors here say Pamela: how big is the baby now? james: not sure rich-c: I think that used to be medical opinion in North America many years ago james: we james: we're in the second trimester though james: yeah, well japan is lagging in a lot of things medical and social james: they just banned smoking in hospitals here a few years ago Daniel Bienvenu: Is it Case's first Christmas? james: second christmas for case TheEyeOfSauron: My Photoshop 7.0 doesn't show DCM, though it does show something called DCS 1.0 and 2.0. I can look around for converters. james: we wanted to visit canada again but it wasn't financially or emotionally feasible Pamela: how is your little monster? james: he started preschool a few weeks ago, so we've been swapping germs ever since james: still not talking rich-c: I was just checking Slowview, it doesnt offer DCM either Pamela: in either language? james: neither language james: the general opinion here though is that it's still ok. kids seem to talk rather late here Pamela: is he babbling? james: oh yeah, babbles lots and he has a few contextual sounds Pamela: he's getting there
moved to room Meeting Place TheEyeOfSauron: Just did some Googling, there are converters for DICOM medical images that can yield something that Photoshop can handle. Pamela: nice thing is, when he does talk, he'll be bilingual ": ) rich-c: Rich, I just checked Irfanview, it is supposed to handle DCM with a plugin TheEyeOfSauron: So I think I can figure out how to read them if I get copies of the images.
left chat session Pamela: FYI all, Erin is on a train to Windsor as we speak so won't be present for chat tonite james: exactly rich-c: I'll have to see if I have teh plug-in james: odds are we'll reach a point where we'll want him to shut up Pamela: I guarantee you'll reach that point : ) TheEyeOfSauron: Duct tape is good for that, James. Pamela: they never do , by the way rich-c: when I double-cliked originally Irfanview came up but with a blank screen Pamela: Rich! rich-c: maybe it just needed more time to get up the image TheEyeOfSauron: Or cookies. james: lol Pamela: no wonder Elanor is such a talkative gal
moved to room Meeting Place james: will it work on my wife too? TheEyeOfSauron: Yeah, she figured out how to talk and eat cookies at the same time. Pamela: James - shame on you
changed username to SantClaus Pamela: Hello Sant Pamela: a SantClaus: 'owdy pardners rich-c: wonder if that's our cruiser? Pamela: how's the land legs? SantClaus: si senor SantClaus: tis good ya?????? rich-c: sounded like someone with an overdose of the Caribbean james: heh heh Pamela: well, Santa has to rest up before his big nite TheEyeOfSauron: Wait til the snow hits tomorrow... Pamela: what snow? TheEyeOfSauron: Though at our starbase it's liquid snow. SantClaus: si........got to rest Rudolf rich-c: I think here they're still calling for rain SantClaus: gonna get a WHITE christmas here Pamela: I hope so - I don't want a repeat of last year TheEyeOfSauron: We were very white until 2 days ago. SantClaus: takling about 2-6" depending on lake effect and path of next front tonight Pamela: although it did keep virtually everyone off the roads Daniel Bienvenu: Pam: "I don't want a repeat of last year"? rich-c: yes, you've got a certain amount of motoring around to do on Xmas day, Pam TheEyeOfSauron: Now the grass is green again, and our guinea pig is in heaven, because we can pick him fresh grass for supper. Pamela: oh the joys of being on the wrong side of the lake, Rich
SantClaus changed username to BobS TheEyeOfSauron: All we need is lake-effect sunshine. Pamela: well we're off to Barbara's on Christmas morning, then I have to take Russell to work, then come to your place, then possibly pick him up again, then home Pamela: oh my aching gas tank BobS: lake effect....another way to say it sucks to live on the wrong edge of the lake TheEyeOfSauron: Russell must work on Christmas, too? Joan is evening shift tomorrow through the weekend. Pamela: Yes, he has an eight hour afternoon shift starting at 4:00 Pamela: could be worse, it could have been a twelve TheEyeOfSauron: Yeah, I hope Joan isn't on call, too... james: we got about 50cm here a few days ago Pamela: oh the joys of working around a shift worker Pamela: wow - have you found the school yet James? rich-c: our foecast is periods of snow tomorrow and Xmas, but high 3 tomorrow and 1 Xmas so likely little and wet Pamela: I like them words Dad james: lol. yeah james: but i had to shovel my way in Pamela: I'll bet you did BobS: the weather man shows a lot of green (rain) on the map but it not hitting the ground rich-c: 50 cm? that's about a foot and a half - a real blizzard Pamela: oh good - ground based clouds TheEyeOfSauron: I just hope we don't get blizzarded before I have a chance to take our dead minivan to its final home--right now it's still parked "mostly out-of-the-way" in the back driveway. TheEyeOfSauron: Too much happened this week that I wasn't able to get away from work a half day to do it. james: yup. it snowed for two days non-stop except for a short break one afternoon rich-c: not even enough to attract a bid from the wrecker, Rich? it must be pretty sorry Pamela: the only thing I don't like about the rain is the windows in the car fog up no matter what I do TheEyeOfSauron: Transmission with no reverse gear? Not very valuable in a 15-year-old car. Pamela: as long as you don't have to reverse you'll be fine Rich james: so dan, what plans do you have for the holidays? Daniel Bienvenu: me? Pamela: vous TheEyeOfSauron: Right now it's aimed out the driveway, so I ought to be able to drive it straight to Our Lady of the Wayside. james: oui TheEyeOfSauron: I just have to hope I don't make any wrong turns. Pamela: what is Our Lady of the Wayside? TheEyeOfSauron: A charity here in Cleveland that accepts junk car donations.
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changed username to Guy B. BobS: here they will come and pick it up for FREE Rich......and maybe even pay a little to you for the metal content TheEyeOfSauron: It's a sort of joke name, but they are well-known here. Daniel Bienvenu: no plan... Pamela: and here I thought it was a fancy term for a junkyard Daniel Bienvenu: except buying a few things to make more Coleco cartridges Guy B.: Seasons Greetings!!!! rich-c: ah, OK, just don't forget to get your income tax receipt Pamela: Hello Guy BobS: HI GUY Pamela: Seasons Greetings to you to TheEyeOfSauron: I don't itemize deductions, and the value of this car will not make it worthwhile for me to start doing so.
moved to room Meeting Place Guy B.: Finally got the shopping and wrapping done. TheEyeOfSauron: Hello Guy. rich-c: welcome Guy
changed username to Murray Guy B.: Let me guess, Dr. D! Pamela: MURRAY! TheEyeOfSauron: And if it isn't Murray! james: \ 8ujhjknx Pamela: Hi rich-c: hello Murray, long time no see TheEyeOfSauron: You're right, Guy. Guy B.: Hi Murray Pamela: I see Case is up James Murray: Hi Rich How are things? Guy B.: You're getting clever with those, TheEyeOfSauron: Glad that the semester is over... Murray: Hi Guy rich-c: doing just fine, Murray - how's things out in teh boonies ;-) TheEyeOfSauron: BTW, I got official word from the National Science Foundation on Friday that my 3-year grant to develop web-based robot courses was indeed funded. Murray: Okay!!! Guy B.: I had my back x-rayed today. Pamela: well done, Rich TheEyeOfSauron: So maybe that will be some future ADAMcon session :-) Pamela: did you learn anything Guy? rich-c: neat, Rich - about time TheEyeOfSauron: Back?!? Guy B.: Will find out on Monday, the 29th. rich-c: what's with your back, Guy? TheEyeOfSauron: Actually, our dept. administrator was very surprised that NSF responded so quickly. Guy B.: It's doing better. Been doing some exercises that seem to help. TheEyeOfSauron: I guess the usual announce time is closer to February for 1 July start dates. rich-c: muscle spasm, or are you into disc problems? TheEyeOfSauron: Hope not disc problems!!!! Pamela: brb, guys Guy B.: Been having some pain down on the lower part and it sometimes goes up my spine. The good news is no kind of tingling or numbness in my legs. rich-c: hearing mutterings about a pinched nerve, then? TheEyeOfSauron: Argh, sounds like disc... TheEyeOfSauron: But I'm no medical doctor. Guy B.: Well, my doctor did feel some sort of bulge down there. TheEyeOfSauron: My patients have no skeletal system, anyway. rich-c: hey Murray, don't just sit there, say sopmething! james: catching up. appears case was entertaining you while i was away Pamela: okay, I'm back. I'm gonna be quiet for a while though TheEyeOfSauron: Case kanji :-) james: lol Guy B.: Bob, you got snow by you? TheEyeOfSauron: Pam, quiet? BobS: HIYA Murray !!!! long time no see mon Murray: My system here is on real slow time... BobS: had some Guy, but gone now Pamela: I'm working on a needlework project that has to get done so I'm gonna stitch and watch for a while BobS: am expecting some tonight and tomorrow Pamela: I will put in the occasional comment BobS: weatherman PROMISES a white Xmas rich-c: what, a 33.6 modem or something, or low-bandwidth ISP? TheEyeOfSauron: Got it :-) You need speech-to-text on your computer... Guy B.: Flurries here until it ends after midnight. You're going to get lake effect snow. Pamela: don't think I haven't thought of that Rich Pamela: that would be ideal Murray: we have snow here but the rain today took it away-maybe some snow for x-mas <fingers crossed> Pamela: : ) BobS: we will get a white coating, but the real lake effect is supposed to stay to our west Pamela: Hey, I saw a hat / glove / scarf set that's perfect for Erin TheEyeOfSauron: Just so you don't talk to yourself if you make mistakes while sewing...the mike would pick it up :-) Pamela: It says Princess on it rich-c: we're supposed to have "periods of snow" next two days but daytime highs above freezing Pamela: I always talk to myself Rich Pamela: sometimes it's the only way to have a decent conversation : ) TheEyeOfSauron: What was it Gandalf said about that, common in the aged, they talk to the most intelligent person around :-) Guy B.: I took out my CD-Writer in the Athlon today and replaced it with a new 54X CD-Rom drive. The writer is going on the Dell. Oh, I shot some photos of Abby last night with her Christmas bandana. rich-c: I'll refrain from editorializing on the subject ;-) Murray: my connection is now at 19kb and it's getting slower when more people get on my local exchange TheEyeOfSauron: Speaking of photos...latest Egg Hunt robot photos are on the course webpage. No video yet, I have been working on digitizing it. TheEyeOfSauron: http://www.eecs.cwru.edu/courses/lego375/robots/robots_f03/
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: man, you do have your problems, Murray - upgrade to a better tin can and string!
changed username to Pamela Daniel Bienvenu: I'm looking at the Christmas's greeting by Ron M. Guy B.: We have twin Pams! Daniel Bienvenu: err... Pamela: I just got booted off the system and had to redial. Hmm. TheEyeOfSauron: Sally and I did not know what to do. So we had to shake hands with Pam1 and Pam2. Daniel Bienvenu: Well, I use ADAMEM with the DSK file. Murray: Yep! That would be an improvement. :) Pamela: lost the thread
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Guy B. confirmed ban Guy B.: Well, seems everyone has problems tonight. I had to reboot myself then reconnect to the DSL. Took a couple of times.
BobS confirmed ban Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not enough to read all the text at once rich-c: well theres more than enough news - Rich has his grant at lassBob's just back from a week's cruising Pamela: there am I still connected? Daniel Bienvenu: err... Pamela: yup
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changed username to Judy rich-c: Guy has his back problems, Pam's getting married, and I've had my hip replaced Guy B.: HI Judy Judy: Hi, Guy rich-c: welcome Judy Pamela: Hi Judy Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Judy Judy: hi, Pam Guy B.: Pam, you're getting married?
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changed username to return-of-james rich-c: could have fooled us, Daniel - it doesn't show return-of-james: got dumped Judy: when is the big day, Pam? Guy B.: James is back. Pamela: it was supposed to be a secret, Guy return-of-james: some other app killed my parent window TheEyeOfSauron: Case must have hit the NO CARRIER button... Judy: hi, Rich TheEyeOfSauron: Hello Judy. Guy B.: Well. you can thank you're father for that. Murray: I'm losing my connection...if not back all the best of the season to you. Pamela: tell me about it TheEyeOfSauron: Merry Christmas Murray! Pamela: Hi, Judy Judy: Hi, Dr D BobS: to ya'll also KJurray Pamela: Bye Murray
Murray left chat session Guy B.: He got off quick. Judy: Hi, to you also, Daniel Guy B.: Is everyone ready for Christmas? BobS: ya mon !!!!!!! Judy: and if I missed anyone, hi TheEyeOfSauron: As of Sunday, only Joan had done any shopping. BobS: can't shop anymore.......too busy Daniel Bienvenu: :) BobS: ON MAN BobS: Oh man BobS: now that is a slow bunch ya got there Rich TheEyeOfSauron: There was no time before then. TheEyeOfSauron: End of semester, Joan on evenings with on-call, Christmas pageant... Guy B.: The shopping center across from is still crowded, especially at Target. And the snow is sticking to the grass. Judy: we are supposed to get snow tomorrow rich-c: our local plaza had good trade today, but we wre able to park fairly easily TheEyeOfSauron: But all of us went in 2 cars to the mall after church on Sunday, we traded off kids until Joan had to leave for work, then Christina and I traded off kids until everyone was done. Guy B.: Correction, it's sticking everywhere. rich-c: the grocery store was very crowded though TheEyeOfSauron: We didn't even get the tree up until Saturday. Judy: the grocery store was a zoo this morning, not even any carts, had to wait for one BobS: a veritable shopping excursion you had............ TheEyeOfSauron: Somehow, a week just disappeared from the calendar...and I would like it back. Pamela: tell me about it Rich rich-c: yes, one of the corrals had run out of carts at our store too Judy: Bob and I shopped last week to finish up on St Martin Pamela: last Monday Russell said 10 days to Christmas and I freaked rich-c: and the lineup at the checkout was longer than we're used to Guy B.: Since I had my back x-rayed today. I took Jeanene to the emergency room yesterday. She had pain in her neck. I'll be taking her to the doctor that did the surgery on her back. Guy B.: tomorrow. TheEyeOfSauron: Last night I went out to do just looking around, since Sunday was not really browsing but targeted get-this and get-that. TheEyeOfSauron: I was all done, I just wanted to wander around looking at stuff. BobS: window shopping is DANGEROUS TheEyeOfSauron: The stores seemed to be rather well-stocked to me. TheEyeOfSauron: Very light wallet, Bob, so no dangers :-) BobS: that is what we saw also BobS: TOO MUCH stuff left to be a great season rich-c: in the plaza here there was a temporary kiosk selling artificial trees threaded with fibre optic lighting BobS: an article in our paper pointed the figner at the mid priced stores as not doing so well TheEyeOfSauron: I'm glad of it, given our short timetable. rich-c: the trees were very attractive but teh prices definitely weren't Guy B.: Just pasted next year's computer show schedule for my area on my monitor. BobS: BUT Richard,,,,,it is the new thing!!!!! rich-c: in fact today even with $50 reductions they wre no great buys BobS: don't you "have to have one" ???????? TheEyeOfSauron: I was surprised at the cash register how much some stuff was marked down, when I was perfectly happy to pay the marked price. rich-c: naw, what I need is a DVD writer for teh computer now BobS: that too Rich... alot of sales long time ago already and never let up Guy B.: Good for backups. rich-c: around here computers seem to be selling well, but then the prices are hugely attractive rich-c: will a computer DVD player play a movie on the computer monitor? Guy B.: It should work. BobS: yea but slowly BobS: Doug's super up to date one does it, but it has lags in it rich-c: I'd buy an entertainment DVD player - they're ridiculously cheap - but have no place to put one Guy B.: Especially since I've seen some DVD players going for $39. rich-c: yes, locally even Best Buy has them as $49 and they aren't the lowest price around rich-c: one would think a computer with a decent video cared wouldnt lag BobS: it takes a good deal of memory, etc to keep up with the dvd Judy: Mandy paid under 30 for hers just after Thanksgiviing Guy B.: Everyone thought all the software was going to DVD. But, it hasn't. Not everyone has a DVD drive on their system. Pamela: heck, they'll be giving them away at that rate rich-c: that's real low - though the barebones ones are really down Guy B.: Even DVD/VCR combos can be had for under $100 now. rich-c: well, Guy, not so long ago a DVD writr was going for $550 here rich-c: now I'm seeing dual-format +/- for $149 - and that's Canadian Guy B.: I have Best Buy's ad and they have an external one to the USB going for $269 after a $30 rebate. rich-c: anyway I want a writer for backups; I am not a great movie watcher rich-c: in fact I have never rented a movie in my life Guy B.: Although the discs for DVD are priced higher than the CD-R's. rich-c: sure, but you can back up your whole C drive to one DVD with room to spare Guy B.: That would depend on how much is on your drive. If I'm right, DVD-RW's can hold 4.7 GB. rich-c: sure, but rmember backup and image programs will compress that quite considerably Guy B.: But, I wonder how long it would take to backup the drive? BobS: ok.....so i could back up all my laptops on 1 dvd......... TheEyeOfSauron: Only if your laptops have less than about 4.2 GB. BobS: and nother for my main desktop.............. rich-c: sure, and get about three rewritable DVDs and it's likely your lifetime supply BobS: yup TheEyeOfSauron: "Nobody will need more than 640K RAM" TheEyeOfSauron: "The world will need at most 5 computers" Guy B.: Since my CD-Writer is going on the Dell since it won't work with the Athlon because of the DMA mode. My Zip 250 is going there instead. TheEyeOfSauron: What is really hard to back up is digital video data. BobS: I don't have enough "stuff" to fill a big hd BobS: no mp3 files........etc rich-c: heavens, are folks still using zip drives? I thought the disc price had killed them off TheEyeOfSauron: My 1-hour experiments generate 25 GB for each of the 3 cameras. Guy B.: I got almost half of my new 40GB drive filled up. And I do have the 13GB on the system for more storage later. TheEyeOfSauron: I can't even save one experiment on any kind of removable media, save a slllooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww expensive tape. rich-c: yes, that is definitely in the DVD league, Rich Guy B.: Turtle speed. rich-c: in fact you'd better wait till the blue laser 8.4 gig ones come out TheEyeOfSauron: And since so much of my work is in editing the video, I am reduced to saving it as QuickTime movie clips. TheEyeOfSauron: What I want is a removable random-access storage medium that is the same size as my largest hard drive. TheEyeOfSauron: Give me a 200 GB removable disk. TheEyeOfSauron: But there is no such beast yet that I know of. rich-c: they're working on it, Rich TheEyeOfSauron: Yeah, and by then, the hard drives will be 1 terrabyte. Guy B.: It's already up to 230GB. rich-c: I know, your standard entry-level hard disc now is 80 gig working towards 120 TheEyeOfSauron: My desktop computer has dual 180s in it. TheEyeOfSauron: I suppose people are using removable hard drives as backup media themselves, now. rich-c: I would never live long enough to fill an 80 gig hard disc TheEyeOfSauron: Were it not for slug video, me neither. BobS: I'm with you Richard Guy B.: There are now 1 touch hard drives for the USB 2.0 port. rich-c: in fact I doubt if I will ever find my 40 gig cramped Pamela: heck, I'm still trying to fill a 10 gig : ) TheEyeOfSauron: I have a 10 MB MFM drive full of EOS stuff :-) BobS: I wonly have a 4 gig split into 2 drives and it is nowhere near full rich-c: wel, given my inclination to download every freebie program on the internet... :-) BobS: ya BobS: but ya gotta use them !!!!! BobS: or theya re just fluff rich-c: reminds me, Rich, have you heard of heavens-above.com? Pamela: he does Bob, that's the scary part TheEyeOfSauron: Nope, Richard. return-of-james: rich, why don't you get a couple of removeable hard drive caddies? rich-c: it's apparently a website that will tell you what stars are visible tonight from where you live TheEyeOfSauron: Might have to consider it...though the design of the current Mac G4/5 tower machines is not congenial to that architecture. TheEyeOfSauron: Apple wants external FireWire drives. TheEyeOfSauron: There might be a removable module that's FW-based, though. TheEyeOfSauron: I will tell Elanor, Richard, since she just completed a science fair project on astronomy. rich-c: I'd guess IEEE1394 or USB 2.0 would be nearly as fast and much easier to work with TheEyeOfSauron: She's been watching and observing stuff for about 3 months. return-of-james: there are usb hard drive caddies too Guy B.: Seems Apple is forcing users that they have to accept these new changes on their systems. rich-c: OK, I'll verify the url, brb TheEyeOfSauron: Yeah, I've had poor luck with FireWire drives (which are just IDE drives with a FW-to-IDE bridge board). TheEyeOfSauron: They get noisy fast, and die. TheEyeOfSauron: Mac used to be SCSI all the way...more expensive, but far more reliable. TheEyeOfSauron: I am running quiet 10-year-old SCSI and SCSI-2 drives in the robot lab and at home. Guy B.: Seems that Firewire was to be the fastest one. Then USB 2.0 came out. TheEyeOfSauron: Yes, some SCSI drives have died, but at about 1/3 the rate of these IDE ones. TheEyeOfSauron: Our Chinese Ph.D. student was able to recover only 80% of the data on his dead 120GB drive, the one he hadn't backed up...cost,$3200. TheEyeOfSauron: My boss was not happy. Guy B.: Ouch! TheEyeOfSauron: And his lab was broken into today at lunch time and 2 old Powerbook laptops were stolen. rich-c: rich, yes, heavens-above.com is correct rich-c: it offers planets and satellites too TheEyeOfSauron: Fortunately, all the data on these exists elsewhere in the lab. TheEyeOfSauron: The idiot who took them got 6-year-old computers with dead batteries, and he left the powercubes behind.
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changed username to <undefined> TheEyeOfSauron: When his fence sees they aren't Wintel machines, he won't pay much for them. Pamela: it sounds like that student should get an E rich - for extraordinarily stupid BobS: ya mon TheEyeOfSauron: But Security is pretty sure that the culprit will never get caught. TheEyeOfSauron: He is emigrating to your fair country when he gets his Ph.D. at last :-) rich-c: oh, old laptops have been selling at quite ridiculously high prices around here Judy: he may be back for more later,Dr.D Pamela: oh sure, pawn him off on us why don't you TheEyeOfSauron: We're going to hang a jingle bell on the door so we can hear if people go in. Guy B.: Especially when he realizes about the dead batteries. BobS: jsut leave the power cubes outside the door witha anote.......HEY STUPID, you need these !!!!!!! TheEyeOfSauron: Hey, he decided long ago to emigrate to Canada...his wife is there now, stuck in Toronto, because U.S. immigration won't let her back in. rich-c: and rig them to explode ten minutes after they're picked up... TheEyeOfSauron: She's been there since June... TheEyeOfSauron: ...and he was supposed to finish in August, then January, now...? Pamela: yes, I remember you telling us about it rich-c: there are worse places to be stuck, though at this season, not many TheEyeOfSauron: Maybe the guy will be stupid enough to return them as not sellable. Pamela: tee hee TheEyeOfSauron: The 2 students just want their computers back. BobS: large on DUMB and short on smart, eh??????? TheEyeOfSauron: I think we should put out some bait with a webcam watching... TheEyeOfSauron: ...or tied to an alarm. TheEyeOfSauron: I have some "junk" laptops that I could conveniently leave out, rigged to a siren. TheEyeOfSauron: Truly junk, they don't work at all. Guy B.: And hide the thing, so they won't know they are being recorded. TheEyeOfSauron: Probably it would be illegal, though. BobS: naw, stupid is legal rich-c: I like the bank trick - as they leave, a container of red dye explodes all over them BobS: long as you don't prosecute the person Rich, it would be afun thign to do Pamela: go for it Rich - even if you can't prosecute, no one will ever trust the offender again, and everyone will know who the offender was : ) TheEyeOfSauron: Or a note taped to the laptop screen, "INFECTED WITH ANTHRAX" TheEyeOfSauron: "SMILE, STUPID, YOU"RE AS GOOD AS DEAD" Pamela: oh, you are devious Dr. D rich-c: a radiation hazard symbol inside is always goos for a laugh, too Pamela: I like that in a person : ) TheEyeOfSauron: The thief likely doesn't know what anthrax is, though. Guy B.: Even a better idea. Take out the hard drives. The laptaps would be useless without them. TheEyeOfSauron: Or "DANGER RADIOACTIVE" TheEyeOfSauron: I remember seeing a sign in the basement of one of the science buildings, next to the waste storage room. TheEyeOfSauron: It was begging whoever dumped out the "trash" to take the plastic bags to go get a thyroid scan, since the "trash" was radioactive waste inside a *LOCKED* room awaiting proper disposal. TheEyeOfSauron: Idiot cleaning person who needed some trash bags... return-of-james: ok, the wife is finally home so i have to get going. hope to see you all next week TheEyeOfSauron: Bye James. Guy B.: Have a great holiday James. Pamela: nite James - Merry Christmas to you all rich-c: OK james, have a merry christmas and a happy new year BobS: happy holiday James !!!!!! return-of-james: same to all. have a good holiday! return-of-james: bye! Judy: bye james
return-of-james left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: bye James! Joyeux Noel Guy B.: Bye James Guy B.: Bob, how's Mandy doing? Daniel Bienvenu: J'ai vu les robots! :) Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.eecs.cwru.edu/courses/lego375/robots/robots_f03/ TheEyeOfSauron: Do you like them, Daniel? TheEyeOfSauron: Most of them behaved very badly. TheEyeOfSauron: A brief summary of the competition is given at TheEyeOfSauron: http://www.eecs.cwru.edu/courses/lego375/video/video_f03/ rich-c: that just adds to the amusement of the spectators, Rich BobS: Mandy is doing good......and little Ryan is going great.......like a 5 year old in a almost 3 year old body TheEyeOfSauron: Not when all the robots break down and don't move... rich-c: true - we want ACTION! Guy B.: He's making great progress there. TheEyeOfSauron: Not (yet) noted in that summary, Daniel, are the 2 rounds that were stopped early because all the robots were broken. BobS: need bigger tires rich Pamela: says he of the monster truck robot Guy B.: Well, we still have an undefined here, but no one has identified himself. TheEyeOfSauron: They have bigger tires now than *you* had, Bob. Look at some of the robots. rich-c: right, do we have a lurker or just a ghost? TheEyeOfSauron: It's the Masque of the Red Death! TheEyeOfSauron: I always wanted to see a holiday special like "Edgar Allan Poe's Pit and the Pendulum Christmas". rich-c: come to think of it, Ron hasn't shown up Pamela: hey, speaking of death, I got a call yesterday from a friend saying an old school chum of mine died of influenza yesterday rich-c: maybe the different time zone confused him? Guy B.: I wonder where he's at tonight? TheEyeOfSauron: Sorry to hear, Pam... :-( BobS: that BobS: is a bummer Pam Pamela: she was a casual friend and I haven't been close to her in years but thank you Rich BobS: this flue is a bad one I guess rich-c: that's awfully young, Pam - no other complications? Judy: we were in the ER Sat night and the little kids are getting it, there were so many of them in with it Guy B.: Haven't had a bad case here in Illinois yet. Pamela: of course, you always hear about people who die of the flu, but it's always a news story rich-c: well, I got my shots early this year, but I gather they don't cover the flu that turned out to be most prevelant Pamela: she was hospitalized Dad and her kidneys had shut down - she died of cardiac arrest Judy: a 10 year old died last week in Michigan Pamela: other than that I don't know much TheEyeOfSauron: So far I've been exposed to people who definitely had it (out for 5+ days), but I seem to be keeping it at bay. rich-c: flu can do it and sometimes before you realize you're sick, it's too late TheEyeOfSauron: My Grampa Drushel was very sick in the 1918 pandemic and it permanently damaged his kidneys. Pamela: well your best defense is good handwashing and to stay away from those who are sick Daniel Bienvenu: Well, I have to go now. the visitors here want to sleep. |-) Guy B.: Been a long time for me since I had it. The last time I got the flu is when the Russian flu hit here back in 1978. Judy: we were a little worried Sat there we sat with all these sick people around us, exposing us Pamela: I guess we'd better let you go then Daniel. Good nite and Joyeux Noel TheEyeOfSauron: He had kidney problems all his life and died of renal failure at age 66. rich-c: right, Daniel, forgot about that - joyeux Noel to you and yours TheEyeOfSauron: Merry Christmas, Daniel! Guy B.: Merry Christmas Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: Joyeux Noël à vous aussi! BobS: marry christmas Daniel !!!!!! BobS: AND happy new year Daniel Bienvenu: And I hope I can see a video of the robot competition one day. :) Daniel Bienvenu: bye! Daniel Bienvenu: *pook* Judy: I seem to get the flu every year so this year I got the shot and now they say it isn't for the right flu, go figure Daniel Bienvenu: err.. *poof* Daniel Bienvenu: oops
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-c: right Judy, they try to predict, but simetimes it fools them Guy B.: Well, it's just the 6 of us left. BobS: ANd an undefined rich-c: six or seven, depending on the undefined BobS: welcome welcome "undefined" Guy B.: That doesn't count. rich-c: can I get back to DVDs? what's the DVD-RAM format? TheEyeOfSauron: I'm about to make it 5...I should get to bed, today started early, and there's a lot tomorrow. Guy B.: I believe that's not an actual DVD disc. I think it's some sort of disk. TheEyeOfSauron: I am playing my sax in the 6 PM Christmas Eve service. Guy B.: Have a good Christmas Dr. D! TheEyeOfSauron: I just got my music today, so I have to do some quick rehearsing tomorrow afternoon. rich-c: yes, you'll have an extra busy coouple of days, Rich Pamela: then you definitely need your rest so you can read the music : ) rich-c: anyway Merry Christmas to you and Joan and all the family rich-c: and a happy and prosperous New Year TheEyeOfSauron: I need my brain to transpose from C piano to Eb alto sax. Pamela: Merry Christmas to you all, hugs and kisses to everyone BobS: MERRY XMAS SENOR !!!!!!! Judy: night Dr D and have a merry christmas Pamela: oh, good luck - that's a toughy TheEyeOfSauron: Hope you all have a good Christmas, travel safely everyone, and I'll be back here next Thursday, 9 PM. BobS: felis na vi da.......... <undefined>: Hello All the undefined is only I HLM, just stopped in to say Happy Hollidays to all rich-c: we'll be here and ready, Rich BobS: or somthing like that Guy B.: Bye Dr D. Pamela: I'll be here Pamela: Hello Herman - merry Christmas rich-c: Hummn!!!! Guy B.: It's Herman. How are you? Judy: hi, Herman BobS: well darn Herman just put your name in there and stay whiel instead of lurckiing in the shadows !!!!!! rich-c: hey man, Merry Christmas, glad to have you in TheEyeOfSauron: Hi Herman, change your name...and Merry Christmas to you and Zandra. BobS: How the heck are ya???????? <undefined>: Still kicking Not High but kicking TheEyeOfSauron: Bye all...<poof>! Guy B.: Good to hear. Pamela: nite!
TheEyeOfSauron left chat session Guy B.: Ok, now it's 6, BobS: you should be here EVERY WEEK sir rich-c: hey, loose one Clevelander, gain another ;-) BobS: how is Zandra doing?????? (sourse she has to put up with you....) <undefined>: Yes, I Know but sometimes I forget most times, and sometimes I am swamped in babies rich-c: how have things been going for you and Zandra, Herman? BobS: you got foster babies now????? BobS: and howmany????? <undefined>: she is fine I am the sick one bursted my foot open half sleep tending to babies, but it is better now BobS: speak up son !!!!!! BobS: OUCH <undefined>: stepped on the leg of a coffee table half asleep BobS: that does NOT sound like fun rich-c: that can leave lasting memories Guy B.: Double Ouch! <undefined>: no only six xtitches but it got infected Our EFFICENT ER decieed at the time I did NOT need an antibotic now I been taking them 2 weeks rich-c: ouch - infections after surgery are serious bad news BobS: doctors are quacks, and ER's are incompetent <undefined>: toe got infected cut between big toe and 2nd toe pretty deep BobS: got to use your own head somtimes Judy: not cool, herman rich-c: when I went to the dentist lst week I had to take four penecillins before he'd touch me <undefined>: that is not goot rich rich-c: well, I'll have to do that for teh next two years, apparently <undefined>: Luckily my family doctor is from the OLD SCHOOL he is getting me together slowly I guess Guy B.: I remember taking an antibiotic that was a penicillin equvilant and I had to stop taking it after I developed a allergic reaction to it. rich-c: yes, penicillin allegies are very common, and some of teh substitutes make problems too, I hear <undefined>: me too Guy I am taking some derivitive of it but not actually Penicillin Pamela: I think most sulfa based drugs are the problem rich-c: yes, I think teh one teh dentist prescribed was amoxycillin Pamela: that's apparently really strong stuff rich-c: no, penicillin reflects a mould allergy, Pam Pamela: did you have a tummy reaction to it? rich-c: no, but then I have a cup of yogurt every day - great for the intestinal flors Pamela: Dr. gives me erythromycin - works just fine <undefined>: it breaks me out, but in an emergency they give it to me and deal with the side affects later some folks it stops their breathing and stuff Pamela: however, it makes me absolutely ravenous for the first 48hours Guy B.: My mom thought I was allergic to penicillin. But later as an adult, I did try it and had no problems. But it wasn't until I was released from the hospital and started taking the penicillin equvilant, that's when a rash developed. Now, I no longer take any antibiotic that has penicillin in it. rich-c: yes, allergic reactions can sometimes get lethal - like peanuts <undefined>: I have a friend who is allergic to SHRIMP she broke out in hives 2 yrs ago her anniversary is a week before mine and I ordered a shrimp coctail and sent her into a tailspin Pamela: and yet I, who had some pedestrian allergies to things when I was young, now have completely unorthodox allergies instead rich-c: apparently the one thing that really scares my surgeon is an infection that gets into the operated area Pamela: I can understand that Dad rich-c: you allergies change with age - I didn't use to be allergic to cats, now they're serious bad news and dogs get to me too <undefined>: that is usually how it enters the body rich Pamela: if you were to get an infection, it would be a royall pain to treat rich-c: no, he's more worried about something months down the road, Herman Pamela: thank goodness for antihistimines : ) <undefined>: OH ok rich-c: oddly enough teh surgeon who took out my gall bladder wasnt worried about it at all <undefined>: I usually get tetra cicllin but they kicjed me up a few notches this time to something else very much stronger I guess] Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to take Abby out soon for a quick walk. So, everyone have a Merry Christmas. Will see you all on New's Year's Day!
Guy B. left chat session Pamela: brr, Guy - make it quick. Merry Christmas! rich-c: yes, a deep wound and infection that has a grip before you realize can be trouble BobS: have agood couple of holidays Guy Judy: bye Guy and have a Merry Christmas BobS: and we WILL see you New years day rich-c: Merry Christmas, Guy, see you next year! :-) Pamela: boy, he disappeared in a hurry <undefined>: You to siir and to All and have a safe holliday Rich I still remember the Boxing week comming up for you guys won't make it to Canada this year for it rich-c: pity, Herman, but maybe you'll get a chance sometime later <undefined>: me and my wife usually come up to Canada for it Pamela: we'll send you a box, Herman : ) rich-c: well, we're worth visiting in other seasons too, you know! ;-) <undefined>: Thanks :) rich-c: of course the other times there's no Boxing Day sales to spend your casino winnings ;-( <undefined>: I Know usually make it that way a few times but got a new born now 7 weeks old too young to travel rich-c: yes, and you have to keep your priorities straight, for sure <undefined>: so true but we will make up for it I am sure Pamela: please do try, Herman rich-c: absolutely - after being grounded myself all this past year, I know how eager you get to go BobS: yes Richard, yo ARE gettign your freedom back little by little eh??????? <undefined>: I had my 11 month old child out and about at 3 months to Canada and Jax Fl last year BobS: any peoblems when yo hit the border to Canada Herman??????? Pamela: now that he's got his wheels back Bob, he's a much happier camper : ) rich-c: ah, Americans have no problems getting into Canada BobS: THAT I can believe <undefined>: no Foster parrents are given travel letters, but hopefully by feb I will have addopted both of them and all probs will be over BobS: he is probably going out just to drive around........ rich-c: yes, I started driving again eight days ago, and when I saw the doctor he said it was OK <undefined>: it is easier to get IN than OUT rich-c: not really Bob, but we have had a LOT of errands that needed running BobS: can believe that Richard BobS: hey Herman.......write on your calendar.....every Wednesday........CHAT @ 9PM sharp !!!!!!!!!! rich-c: no plans for teh spring or summer yet <undefined>: glad you are back in the saddle again hard to keep a good man down Rich rich-c: having a huge problem with Adamcon - it could not be at a worse time Pamela: why Dad? BobS: tis a great time rich-c: we do not like to travel in September, for starters - too many home demands rich-c: and that's far too hot a time to be going to Texas Pamela: such as? <undefined>: that was for me had not worked, then other issues, I had booked a flight lost 300 bux but could not swing the rest at that time BobS: well DAMN it Herman, we would have gotten you there !!!!!! rich-c: well, I didn't lose this yer when I had to cancel as I hadnt made flight reservations yet BobS: you got to come so's we can see ya <undefined>: George offered to back me but I declined didn't want to go further in the hole like climbing out slowly BobS: we need ya man !!!!!!!! BobS: and with that........................ <undefined>: I missed you guys but I will try for Texas BobS: tis time to say adios........and goodbye for 2003........see ya all NEXT YEAR??????? Judy: good we would really like that rich-c: do your very best, Herman, the gang needs you BobS: BE THERE OR BE SQUARE Pamela: hard to believe, ain't it Bob Judy: night all and have a Merry Christmas Pamela: Merry Christmas to you too Judy, and a Happy New Year <undefined>: had several Majors jobs pending but all came through about October but were scheduled earlier doing a new house now that I was DUE to start in July rich-c: night, Bob and Judy, Merry Christmas and see you all next year BobS: have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.......and we will see you Jan 1st rich-c: for sure, Bob Pamela: hugs to all of you - Meeka and Doug too <undefined>: Nite Judy and bib BobS: slam, bam......bye
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