Daniel B: oui oui... je suis déjà là. :) Dr.D.: "Yes yes...you are here again"?
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changed username to rich-c rich-c: bonjour und guten tag, gentlemen Daniel B: bonjour rich rich-c: how are things going, Daniel? Dr.D.: Jetzt abend, geehrte Herr Clee? :-) Daniel B: fine Dr.D.: Just a note to all, I will have to leave at 9:30 PM. rich-c: sales on teh games moving nicely? rich-c: oh dear, moving to a different computer, or off for teh night? Dr.D.: Done for the night: I have some Faculty Advisor business to do tonight at 10 PM, it was the only time available. rich-c: ah so - how's the owrd from Paris? rich-c: word Dr.D.: So, I hope the gang shows up before then. Daniel B: same here... I have to leave soon Dr.D.: Word is good so far. Dr.D.: Sightseeing on the weekend, school this week. Daniel B: Question: rich-c: Christina is enjoying herself? rich-c: go Daniel Dr.D.: Seems to be...she says she hates the AZD... European keyboard for computers, though.
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changed username to BobS rich-c: hi Bob Dr.D.: Hi Bob. Daniel B: (let me take a minute to find the words) BobS: hello der ya'll BobS: how's things??????? rich-c: I assume it's just a variation of the one Daniel uses, with the various accents and such
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changed username to james james: good morning rich-c: good morning james Dr.D.: Hi James. Dr.D.: We are all just hanging out, Bob. james: how is everyone? rich-c: doiung fine, for the moment most of our snow is gone Daniel B: Rich: Remember your "This Week With My Coleco Adam" articles? BobS: hi james Dr.D.: Yes. Daniel B: hi james james: most of the 40cm we got on saturday and sunday has melted off james: hi bobo james: hey dan! did you get any of my yahoo messages? james: oops. bob Dr.D.: Bobo, ROTFL. BobS: it is ALL gone here, Richard.....but predicting a couple of inches to night and then acouple more tomorrow rich-c: ain't bobo its bobs Daniel B: Well, a friend of mine readed one of your articles and asked if I know what is the Coleco programmers' manual Dr.D.: We had snow on Monday and Tuesday, but it all melted away today. BobS: that is Senor Bob BobS: very little here early week james: *yawn* Dr.D.: It's something I never finished scanning, Daniel... james: i'm actually remarkably well rested today for someone with a two year old Daniel B: I told him I only have the Adam technical document Dr.D.: I never finished the project to scan the CPM. rich-c: the words "rested" and "two year old" cannot occur in teh same sentence james: lol. normally i'd agree Daniel B: but he asked if the Coleco programmers' manual exist james: but he actually let me sleep for 7 or 8 consecutive hours last night rich-c: wonders will never cease, james Daniel B: or it was an error in the text by missing the word ADAM rich-c: what is the programmers manual, Rich - is that the second part of the technical manual? james: now mind you i've been running a deficit for some time so it's going to take more than a single night's rest to get back what i've lost Daniel B: I told him that I will ask here if someone have a copy of this document Dr.D.: It does exist, I have a copy, I believe Dale has a copy. rich-c: they say you can't make up sleep, james james: dr. d, if you're too busy to scan it, would photocopies be a doable request? Dr.D.: Mine is about a 20th generation photocopy obtained by Barry Wilson (of A.N.N. fame) from someone in Puerto Rico.
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: hi daughter james: well if i can read japanese, i can probably make out most of it Dr.D.: Pamela! Hello, dear. Daniel B: hi pam james: lol james: hi pam james: dan! Pamela: Hello everyone Daniel B: james james: dan! BobS: Hi Pam Daniel B: james! james: dan! james: ha ha Daniel B: james!!! james: the website is back up Dr.D.: It's not totally illegible, the original was at least Selectric typewritten at 10 point, double-spaced. rich-c: Rich, what is teh programmers manual? who knows, I may have it Pamela: ish, I just looked at my hands and they're filthy - brb Dr.D.: Most of it, anyway. BobS: think Dale has a good copy............got it @ AC10 - twas Tony Patterson's james: hmm.. maybe should bug dale, he james: 's almost never around though Dr.D.: Some of the Appendices, however, were in very bad shape. Dr.D.: Early dot-matrix printer, 12-point type, single-spaced. james: dan, t'es la? rich-c: sounds like something I do not have Daniel B: james: oui, je suis là BobS: that is the trouble James.....think Dale & Jill are still alive and kickin' but they never wander in james: well they must certainly be busy Dr.D.: And IIRC I saw Dale's copy and it was not much better than mine...in fact, missing the same page from the Graphics Users Manual. james: @dan, as-tu recu mes messages yahoo? Daniel B: euh... ca fait 5 jours au moins que je n'ai pas ouvert mon Yahoo james: well we could certainly put this manual to good use, methinks. i'd be more than willing to clean it up rich-c: shame on yoou, Daniel - that's what Yahoo is for - answers now BobS: bummer dude Daniel B: I was sick... influenza BobS: thought you guys figured ou that one was compltet james: @dan, il m'a fallu acheter un nouveau disque fixe Dr.D.: I do have a cleaned-up photocopy master that I made from Barry's awful original. Dr.D.: Nope Bob, descended from the same source evidently. james: @dr. d, how heavy is it? rich-c: what happened, james, a crash or over-filled? james: hard drive just died james: old age i guess Dr.D.: It's as big as the ATM, about an inch thick. rich-c: mechanical failure, then - no warning, I suppose? james: not much. fortunately i had 90% of my datum backed up Pamela: so did I miss anything? Dr.D.: Just wondering why your hands are dirty. Daniel B: c'est ça... j'étais malade depuis jeudi... une bonne grippe rich-c: not really, Daniel and Dr, D are racing because they have to leave soon james: and i was able to coax a half-hour of operability out of it to get what i'd missed Daniel B: désolé james de ne pas avoir répondu plus vite à tes messages. james: c'est correct. tu sens mieux maintenant? Daniel B: oui, ça va mieux Pamela: been cleaning in the dining room. Enough dust things in. Eleven year old newsprint Dr.D.: Yeah, I have to leave at 9:30 PM for a 10 PM engagement as Faculty Advisor. Daniel B: j'évitais l'ordinateur pour reprendre des forces plus vite. :) Pamela: will you be back? Dr.D.: About 1 AM, maybe, if anyone wants to stay up for me.... Pamela: correction, enough dust to plant things in Dr.D.: But I'd doubt they would. rich-c: sorry 'bout that... ;-) Pamela: I'll be snoring 'bout then Daniel B: Dr.D: My friend asked me to request a copy of this document. do you think it's possible in a year? Dr.D.: We found some newspapers from 1976 behind a wall during the demolition of the last biology lab spaces in the fall. rich-c: relax, daughter, after Friday you can do some sleeping in for a bit james: were those load-bearing newspapers? Dr.D.: Yes it is, Daniel, I just have to dig it out of the archives. Pamela: never mind, some of the stuff I found was wrapped in paper from 1969 Dr.D.: No, they seem to have slipped behind a lab bench. Daniel B: That's good! james: amazing what you can find Dr.D.: It was great to see ads for TI calculators, $89. james: so rich, how are things in tranna? Pamela: positively scary! rich-c: what wre you doing with 1969 newspapers, Pam? Dr.D.: And wooden-cabinet 25" TVs for $800. Dr.D.: And I think a Pong for $169. Pamela: unwrapping the various dish / glassware / silverware items you gave me : ) Dr.D.: I saved the papers. rich-c: things are doing well, james, we are having a typical Toronto March, some sun, some cloud, some cold, some rain james: wonder what that is in present day dollars.. Dr.D.: Re: weather, Joan made a joke that has made the rounds: Pamela: multiply by about ten, James Dr.D.: Cleveland has 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, almost spring, and construction. Pamela: Like Toronto! james: sounds like ottawa Pamela: I'll have to depart in a little while for a short time Dr.D.: Wow, everyone is speechless, she will be thrilled. rich-c: I assume, Pam, you wre looking for things to share with Erin - or replace ones you loaned out? Pamela: looking for things to share with Erin, and decide which items to keep and which to give to Goodwill. Not much of the latter. Dr.D.: If Erin needs junk, we have a basement full of it :-) Dr.D.: The girls have been digging some of it out...made a mess. rich-c: no, with a household to set up from scratch, there's little surplus Dr.D.: They are too effective at maximizing entropy... james: lol Pamela: Well, if you'd care to ship: couch, entertainment unit, dining room table, bookshelves and bedside table up here, we'll take delivery james: plenty of that here with case rich-c: and frankly I suspect much of teh stuff has more value than Goodwil would justify
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changed username to George W. Pamela: send 'em along rich-c: hello George Pamela: Hello George, Hi Meeka Meeka: hello rich-c: and hi Meeka George W.: Hi Everyone BobS: HI MEEKA Dr.D.: Hi Meeka and George. BobS: hi Geo Meeka: hows everyone doing tonight rich-c: hey, we've got as many Americans as Canadians on teh chat now james: lol George W.: glad you came to see me rich-c: looks like I have an order coming for a complete Adam with associated goodies
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changed username to Guy B. james: anyone we know, rich? Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Pamela: Hello, Guy rich-c: hello Guy, how's things in Chicago? james: hey, gay Guy B.: Little windy. BobS: hi Guy james: i mean guy james: sorry james: i really can't type names today George W.: AMERICA IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK! rich-c: no, someone from Miami who found me through Herman Guy B.: Watch it James james: sorry ;) Guy B.: NO problem. BobS: COL Richard BobS: COOL Pamela: blame it on the keyboard James - everyone else does rich-c: oh, McCain joining the Kerry tickeet is just a story, George james: yeah, it's this damnfangled keyboard rich-c: you got a straight American one or European, james? George W.: VERY MUCH james: american George W.: SO HE TOLD CNN james: well let me check the back of it rich-c: well you shouldn't have any more trouble than usual rich-c: though it would be nice if one could adapt an Adam keyboard to the DOSbox james: doesn't say where it was made rich-c: George, you don't need to shout! ;-) George W.: sorry caps lock rich-c: not where it was made, james, its the key arrangement james: but i'm guessing it was made in china and the interface control code was outsourced to india Pamela: I repeat, blame it on the keyboard rich-c: if it's new that's a very plausible guess james: yeah, it's an american arrangement Daniel B: Dr.D: it's 21h30 soon. bonne nuit! james: bye dan! George W.: they outsourced my welfare to India Dr.D.: Yes Daniel, I know...I'll be going soon. BobS: nite Daniel Dr.D.: Bye Daniel. Daniel B: err... I don't go... not now james: oh rich-c: nite, Daniel and Dr. D. - catch you on the weekend or next week rich-c: ah, you can still stay - good show, Daniel Guy B.: How's Christina doing in Paris Dr. D? Daniel B: Dr.D: if it's possible make half a copy for summer? rich-c: anyway George, who do you think Kerry will pick? George W.: now i'm doing the Bombay shuffle rich-c: any guesses, George? Daniel B: it will be cool to show this document to my friends coleco programmers. :) George W.: Daffy Duck Dr.D.: Okay, Daniel, will do. james: what's the copyright status of the manual? Dr.D.: Bwahahahaha James. rich-c: Coleco still holds the copyright and if they still existed might sue Dr.D.: We don't worry about no furshlugginer copyrights! Dr.D.: Potrzebie! Dr.D.: :-) james: ok, but since coleco no longer exists.. does that mean we can do what we want with it? rich-c: probably legally Hasbro owns teh copyright but who knows? james: ie: make it available through our website? Pamela: is anyone planning on telling Hasbro? rich-c: seems unlikely George W.: Where can i find smartbasic.rom? Dr.D.: The ATM has been up for several years. james: ok Daniel B: Dr.D: my friend who asked me about the coleco programmers manual, he want to thank you. Dr.D.: It gets hit about 3 times per day, at least, according to my weblogs. james: wow Dr.D.: I have not gotten any cease-and-desists....same for the schematics. Daniel B: he will probably try to be online in the adamcon chat next time Guy B.: Then we know there's still an interest. BobS: great Daniel rich-c: so, Daniel, what language does your friend speak? Daniel B: franglais james: lol rich-c: same as you, better than us - we can cope BobS: GEORGE give me email address........I will send it to you immediately George W.: GWahl53937@aol.com rich-c: oh, it's the ROM image he wants, not the physical ROM? BobS: on it's way George....IF aol will let it thru George W.: Yes the file with the .rom extention Dr.D.: Okay gang, I hate to go, but I have to leave for my meeting now... Pamela: : ( Dr.D.: Don't stay up too late tonight. rich-c: confused me - one of the Walters twins used to burn physical ROMs of SmartBASIC Guy B.: We'll see you next week Dr. D. Pamela: who, us? Never rich-c: since it's less than 32K it fit in well George W.: nite rich-c: nite Rich Dr.D.: And I guess tell Ye Olde Red-Haired She-Devil that I said hello :-) If she stops by, that is. Pamela: she may later Dr.D.: (She will kill me now) rich-c: she'll be down till she gets a new computer Pamela: I'm telling! Dr.D.: Nyah! Dr.D.: All right, good night all. rich-c: and an internet connection - we're working on it Dr.D.: <poof> Pamela: Nite Rich BobS: nite Dr D
Dr.D. left chat session rich-c: what are you planning to do in SmartBASIC, George? BobS: looks like it went thru to you George George W.: see if i can still run my programs Pamela: I have 43 unread emails Dad but I did get the one you sent : ) rich-c: theswe ones you've written or bought, George? BobS: OOPS Richard.......I sent Geo a 160k disk that is how the stuff gets into ADAMEM......as 160k or larger rom images rich-c: OK Pam, you can share the info with Rin if it's any use George W.: one i wrote myself Pamela: Don't worry, I will rich-c: rather see her with Tamco but there are other issues for now Pamela: she may be better off with Tamco anyway - who knows anything about Porchlight? Plus, with our recommendation she'll have no trouble getting set up with John
(Guy B. gives Pamela a can of Diet Coke.) Pamela: why thank you, kind sir Guy B.: I owe you one from last week. rich-c: oh, no problem getting set up with John, just the price difference may matter till she's more settled in the job
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(Guy B. throws a hot potato at BobS.) Pamela: was there dust on that Diet Coke Guy? rich-c: in that case, Guy, don't forget to send her a chaser later Guy B.: Nope. Pamela: are you sure? Guy B.: It was in the fridge. George W.: George just bit his tongue BobS: OUCH Pamela: hmm. Can't possibly be dust in this place (sarcasm fills the room) rich-c: that is not a fun thing to do, George Guy B.: Gee Bob, took you long enough. George W.: ooh blood james: i don't think case stops long enough for the dust to settle around here Guy B.: Where's Judy? BobS: was lookin a another wirelss pcmcia card on ebay rich-c: yes, the Terrible Tows are on you in full force George W.: is Frances around? rich-c: yes, the PCMCIA cards tend to be rather pricey james: just wait till he's 13 and knows *everything* rich-c: yes, Frances is in the house and occasionally looking over my shoulder james: hi frances Pamela: Hi, Mom George W.: I found AROS and downloaded it rich-c: what's AROS? BobS: HIYA Frances Guy B.: Seems this past weekend. I helped two friends with computer problems and got a little something for it. George W.: the amiga compatible OS
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changed username to Judy Guy B.: There she is. Hi Judy Judy: hi, Guy Pamela: brb, gonna kiss R goodnite Meeka: hi mom rich-c: where did you find it, George? Is there a website? what's the URL? Judy: Hi, Meeka George W.: www.aros.org rich-c: hi,Judy Judy: Hi, Rich rich-c: OK, copied it, George rich-c: is that an OS that operates on the Power PC machines or the older ^*K models? George W.: its still in the alpha stage rich-c: aha - any indication who is doing it or why? George W.: i booted it on my p4 Judy: Meeka, have you gone back to part time yet? rich-c: why did you want it, George? you don't have an Amiga
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changed username to bag on head west George W.: curious rich-c: greetings, oh one from beyond the Rockies bag on head west: hello all Pamela: why the bag on your head Ron? Did you forget it was Wednesday? Judy: what are you going to do with all that time? bag on head west: been hit by Todd Bertusi Pamela: and Hi, Judy bag on head west: or a truck bag on head west: or both Guy B.: Hi Ron. Thought it was you. Meeka: start wqith gettin my house back in order George W.: wanted to see if i could use some old workbench stuf rich-c: sure it wasnt just a bug with a real nasty streak? Judy: hi, Bag Pamela: that's my mission this weekend, Meeka bag on head west: ya got that right pilgrim BobS: YO ronald !!!!! Judy: hi, Pam bag on head west: When I don't feel like goin' near the fridge, somethin's wrong bag on head west: Hi Bob Guy B.: How's the weather out by you? George W.: HU? George W.: HUH?
bag on head west changed username to Ron rich-c: agreed, but that part is likely good for you Ron: good but no funj BobS: thought you AND mum had the flu and it was gONE !!!!!!! james: hey ron Pamela: well he has to have some sustenance, Dad rich-c: so why would you have an Amiga workbench, George? Ron: Hi James Pamela: I know how you feel Ron Ron: both of us Guy B.: George, do you have any Amiga software or are you just curious about Amiga? Ron: Mom got it too. We're a great pair Ron: this has been going on for a week Pamela: gotta go temporarily people, will be back in about 20 - 30 minutes Pamela: kerpoof rich-c: OK Pam see you later
Pamela left chat session George W.: more water please Guy B.: Don't be long! BobS: OH NO !!!!!! you both gotta hang OUT with a better crowd !!!!! rich-c: thought I was the only one having thirst problems Ron: yes, fer sure eh? George W.: LOL Ron: got a question? George W.: got milk? rich-c: still haven't told me about your interest in Amiga, George Ron: Can anyone tell me how long it's supposed to take to defrag a 6 gig hard drive - as in the Ron: Toshiba laptop Ron: Under Win 98 rich-c: well, laptop drives are slower Ron: obviously. Been at it for days BobS: longa time Guy B.: That's a good question. rich-c: how long since it's been defragged, and how full is it? Meeka: daoug says a little while :P George W.: I said i wanted to see if old workbench stuff worked on it Ron: too long. Suspect that's the problem BobS: heck even defragging my 2.1 gig takes a long time BobS: how long is a little whiel Meeka?????? Ron: it was, shall we say, SERIOUSLY , defragmented George W.: my 80gig defrags in a zip rich-c: I think my laptop 2.1 gig took 15 or 20 minutes Guy B.: And I have a 40gig and a 13gig in mine. I bet that would take a long time too. Ron: well I shall carry on then. Ron: was going to interrupt the sucker, and say, sorry....times' up BobS: save the stuff and start over james: @ron, you might do better by some third party defrag utility rich-c: the 20 gig partition in my desktop takes about 17 minutes each Friday - but the two 10 gig take split seconds Ron: I have Norton Speed Disk and that's what I started with.... it was even worse james: the win98 defrag is notoriously slow Ron: at least the Microshaft prog. shows me where I'm at Guy B.: Any ideas James? james: for a defrag utility? Guy B.: Yes. rich-c: yes, and the Intel program that comes with Win98 shows you exactly what's up if you click on "details" Ron: yes, that's what it's showing me james: hmm.. no. i've honestly never bothered Ron: It's been at 41 % for the better part of 3 hours Guy B.: There should be some freeware utilities out there. rich-c: well, if it's working and working hard, I'd say leave it to do its thing Ron: but the drive lite is blinking away, so I assume something is happening BobS: sounds stuck Ron Guy B.: It's working. Ron: And NO, I HAVE NOT DROPPED IT ON THE FLOOR Judy: that would be a good thing, Ron Ron: yes BobS: like installin windows........"if the computewr seems to take too long and stops; reboot , run install and then run continue installation" BobS: as if that works rich-c: I don't think there are any freeware utilities for that - I think no one has had incentive to write any George W.: try this URL www.undercoverdesign.com/doshost/dos/dosw31.asp Ron: well, when you consider the nature of the process and the number of files that are likely to be fragmented, I can see it taking a while rich-c: on mine, it sticks at 10% for the longest time (on the desktop) then races through the rewst Daniel B: I have to go now... good night! Daniel B: bonne nuit! Daniel B: chow! Daniel B: bye! Ron: Nite Daniel Guy B.: Bye Daniel rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel
Daniel B left chat session rich-c: but I do the disc scan and defrag every Friday james: bye dan! james: try and get in touch with me somtime! Ron: yes, it's set up that way, but I never have the computer on Friday evenings Ron: so I need to revisit when to do that Ron: can set it for something other than Friday, I'm sure. rich-c: well, if it's fairly full and there's been a lot of activity, you could be in for a long session Ron: yes, God grant me patience, and I want it now rich-c: but three hours sounds to me to be rather extreme rich-c: the problem is, can you interrupt it wothout losing files? BobS: Patience is a virtue Ron......and YOU GOT IT MON !!!!!!!
(BobS gives Ron a can of Diet Coke.) Ron: ok.... so tell me this. If I were to interrupt it would I lose all that has been done since the weekend? Ron: It hasn't been running anything else since Saturday night BobS: who knows Ron: guess there's one way to find out BobS: do it !!!!!! George W.: Whoops! that URL is www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/dos/dosw31.asp Meeka: doug growned rich-c: I believe that when doing teh defrag it takes files from one place and stores them in RAM while waiting to replace them james: man, japanese websites suck
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changed username to judy Pamela / Erin: did I dump someone? rich-c: welcome back judy George W.: did you get that URL? Ron: ok. That makes sense judy: thanks, don't know what happened Ron: Thank you Doug rich-c: what's the safe way to interrupt defrag, Bob? Meeka: yw Guy B.: Bob kicked you off. BobS: RIN !!!!! really ???????? Pamela / Erin: apologies for the quick exit - I had to go meet Erin at the bus stop Pamela / Erin: Shortly Bob, she's just changing and she'll be up BobS: STOP BobS: heck I don't know, I never do it Ron: we're all changing Pam. Some of us don't change fast enough BobS: just wait till it blows up and then redo it Pamela / Erin: she's a quick change artist Ron Ron: well, Bob, that's the other option Ron: It's actually only half of 6 gigs. The other is a penguin place rich-c: when you've got files free-floating in RAM, the three-finger salute is not tactful BobS: this is why i don't really need a huge drive......keep backups on other puters or disks so it is available when the inevidable happens George W.: test Ron: No, I will exit the program nicely Pamela / Erin: you're here George BobS: a WHAT??????? Pamela / Erin: okay, you may now greet Erin Meeka: doug says just hit the cancel button BobS: HI RIN rich-c: oh, it's a dual boot. OK. How full is the 3 gigs of Windoze? judy: hi, Rin Pamela / Erin: she says Hi Peeps Ron: I might just say to heck with Win 98 and make it all a penguin place Guy B.: That's why I decided to put my old drive back on mine. I'm now in the process of backing up what's on the larger drive to the other one. Ron: true Ron: We never had these problems with ADAM, eh? rich-c: just get yourself a DVD burners, gentlemen. Makes backups a lead-pipe cinch Ron: good thought Rich Guy B.: When your backup disk doesn't work. You have the original and can make a new backup. BobS: no problems with ADAM......that is CORRECT sir !!!!!! George W.: I have GNUWIN 2.2 Ron: yup Guy B.: What is that George? Ron: like Ron: like WINE? rich-c: Robert, I have an MI hard disc interface but don't know the protoco; - any way to tell? (IDE-RFF- etc.?) George W.: linux desktop apps for windows james: friggin useless james: and they wonder why the economy here is tanked BobS: MI's are all ide Ron: what WINE:? Ron: I don't know, I've never tried it rich-c: really? I thought the early ones wre different - that's good, then
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