rich-c: hi harve Harvie Powis: Hello Richard rich-c: how's things with you today? Harvie Powis: ot too bad, had to reinstall windows (shrug) rich-c: reinstall windows? on your computer, you mean? Harvie Powis: Don't know what happened to the leading n Harvie Powis: Yes, too many trojans snuck in rich-c: how on earth did they get in? surely you have a first-rate anti-virus? Harvie Powis: I didn't have one, D/L'd AVG, it found the trojans and isolated them , and I couldn't run anything rich-c: when you have teh viruses and trojans i.d.'d you can often go to Norton or McAfee and find out how to recover from them Harvie Powis: Just got the machine running in time for the chat rich-c: I just plain would never ever consider going online without a top anti-virus and firewall updated and running
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: hi daughter Harvie Powis: I have McAfee on my xp box, but I don't like to use XP Pamela: Hi Dad Pamela: Hi, Harvie Harvie Powis: Hi Pam
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changed username to Daniel B Daniel B: oui, c'est moi! Pamela: Dad, we're just getting organized here but before we get started, is there anything I need to come over and get tomorrow? rich-c: I haven't tried XP, don't want an OS that makes me phone Bill Gates for permission if I have to replace a cfashed hard disc or such Harvie Powis: Hello Daniel rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel Pamela: Hi, Daniel Daniel B: Hello! bonsoir.. et Hi! :) rich-c: just a minute while I ask your ma - I do have an extra copy of the new HUB if you like Harvie Powis: That's why I don't like to use it , it came on my Dell box Pamela: I'll get that some other time - it's not something I need to take to Windsor rich-c: I am reasonably happy with my copy of 98SE - though oddly enough I have about six codes that will fool XP rich-c: did you get your molther's email? Pamela: about the Newfoundland quarter? Yes : )) rich-c: no - the Newfie quarter was from me - she sent you a jpeg - Great Escape Pamela: did you get an answer from Mom? Pamela: Oh, yes, I got that too - very cute : ) rich-c: she seems not to have anything to go to Windsor Pamela: Okay. I'm going to get my dinner - talk to Erin for a bit
Pamela changed username to Erin rich-c: there's also a comic waiting for you now, that I found a hoot Erin: hi peeps rich-c: hi Rin - up taking turns on the keyboard, I see Harvie Powis: Howdy Erin: yeah, Pammie hasn't eaten yet Erin: hi Harvie rich-c: btw, is that gosympatico address some sort of personal webmail you have? Erin: webmail, yes Erin: btw, I'll have a phone as of Tuesday rich-c: it's yours personally, not a gummint site, right?
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<undefined> changed username to SubGenius rich-c: that's what I figured, so now w3e can get word to you that you can access from work if not anywhere else Harvie Powis: Hi SubGenius SubGenius: Hi. Erin: hi Rich SubGenius: The view is interesting from down here. SubGenius: All those lofty intellects up there... rich-c: (modestly) I wouldn/t know, never been there Erin: from the basement? SubGenius: That too... Harvie Powis: A lot less demanding eh SubGenius: "Better to be mean than average" :-) SubGenius: It's been a long day... rich-c: so Rin, once you get a phone line, then when will you be getting online on your own/ Erin: as soon as I can afford it, yes Harvie Powis: They always tell me "keep up the mediocre work"
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changed username to BobS rich-c: hail, Roberto BobS: HOWDY mates Erin: BOBS!!!!! SubGenius: Phone line? Rin, are you online from your apartment? BobS: whas sup ??????? Harvie Powis: Hello Bob BobS: hi Harv Erin: nope, not yet SubGenius: Hello Bob. Daniel B: hi Bob! BobS: ok sub......... rich-c: she's subbing for Pam who is making dinner SubGenius: Sounded like you were... BobS: HI ahso!!!!! SubGenius: Ah, Pam is the galley-slave. Erin: actually she's eating now SubGenius: She better save you something. BobS: just fillin' er face, eh?????? Erin: oh no, I ate, tummy happy Harvie Powis: He thinks he's a u-boat captain Bob :) Erin: pretty much Bobs Erin: she is right here you know Erin: ;-) BobS: shhhh. don't tell her SubGenius: But you clearly control the keyboard. Erin: ROTFL rich-c: doing all the heavy looking on, no doubt Erin: well of course....I HAVE THE POWER!!!!!! SubGenius: Delusions of godhood... rich-c: Rich, how are you set for weekend guest parking at your place? Erin: <P> I can't "fill my face and type at the same time" SubGenius: Weekend guest parking? Erin: they're not delusions when you know it for a fact rich-c: yes, you know, leave the vehicle in the driveway for a few days Harvie Powis: But it's easier to talk with your mouth full on here Erin: <P>that's true Harvie SubGenius: We live in a duplex, single-lane driveway. Erin: <P> it's even easier when you have a translator rich-c: bummer SubGenius: Why do you ask, Richard? BobS: BUMMER dude, gonna have to park on the street rich-c: Southwest has given up flying from Toronto SubGenius: Not in Cleveland Heights, no street parking 3AM-6AM. rich-c: but they do fly from Buffalo and Cleveland BobS: them SUCKERS rich-c: nice connection through Houston, I suspect, to ElPaso rich-c: there may be an issue on the horizon... SubGenius: There is well-supervised parking at Hopkins Airport.
moved to room Meeting Place SubGenius: Some even in a deck. BobS: what we "hope" to do Richard.....is goto Detroit and fly out after staying 1 night at a hotel......about $125US for hotel and extra parking days (at the hotel)
changed username to Meeka rich-c: priced to match, I'd wager rich-c: hi Meeka Meeka: hello SubGenius: I walked through it when I picked up Christina at the airport when she came back from Paris. Erin: <P> Hey Meeks Daniel B: hi Meeka BobS: southwest has a $99 each way form Detroit to El Paso.....but can't book jsut yet-only booking thru Sept 13 rich-c: I noticed - what's the transfer point? BobS: hi Meeka SubGenius: Take the Greyhound to Detroit...you are flying anyway, so you need only a bag or two apiece. BobS: don't recall..........somewhere south and west of here though Erin: ok it's settled we are parking in Windsor for rates that cheap Erin: is it direct from Detroit, Bobs Erin: ? SubGenius: Sounds like some ADAMcon planning is going on. SubGenius: I still don't know what day I can leave and what day I have to return by. rich-c: yes, we are very unenthusiastic about the date, will have to do it as a "hit and run" BobS: more or less......would have to stop somwhere along the way BobS: si READ YOUR emails !!!!! SubGenius: Probably won't know that until after the end of the semester. SubGenius: You misunderstand... SubGenius: ...what day I am *free* to leave here, and to return. SubGenius: There is a chance that I will get a M-W-F course to teach in the fall. BobS: ADAMCON16.....El paso, TX.....LaHacienda Travel Lodge on Montana St a mile or so from airport BobS: ahso SubGenius: If so, arrive-Thur/depart-Mon is out for me. rich-c: do they have an airport pickup? Harvie Powis: Married White Females? SubGenius: But that personnel decision won't be made until the end of the semester, maybe not until June. SubGenius: Depends on certain budgetary things... SubGenius: If I am just teaching LEGO lab, then no prob, leave after class Thursday morning, come back anytime I like Monday. rich-c: I thought teh datee was set to accomodate your timetable, Rich - that's what Bob said SubGenius: Yes...but certain job possibilities have opened up for me in the interim. Erin: do tell SubGenius: There is a chance that I can become a full-time instructor and get off the grant-cycle dole. Erin: if you can Erin: wow, <P> that'd be nice SubGenius: But...this would mean going into the Biology Dept. teaching rotation, and most of their courses are M-W-F. rich-c: OK - that's the business you were mentioning when you were here
moved to room Meeting Place SubGenius: And it is uncertain whether or not I'd be able to continue the robot course at all...as all the Biology Dept. labs are T-Th.
changed username to George rich-c: hello George SubGenius: But my Chairman will know nothing until various budget things shake out around here. George: Hi Everyone Harvie Powis: Hi George SubGenius: And currently CWRU is losing $20 million this year...so it may be impossible. BobS: Yo Geo rich-c: and with all teh other administrative shaking going on there... SubGenius: Yes. SubGenius: So I have to play it by ear...but in any case, I will definitely be at ADAMcon 16 for Sat. and Sun. through the banquet.
Erin changed username to Pam / Erin SubGenius: It's on either side of that that I don't know. rich-c: it would be so much better if it wre in October BobS: alright ya'll.....LISTEN UP !!!!!!! BobS: Handicapped, smoking, non-smoking and intercommunicated rooms are also available. The services provided to our guests are: free local calls, newspaper, free shuttle to/from airport, greyhound and train station, in-house restaurant and lounge, room service, heated swimming pool, exercise room, laundry facility, remote television with HBO, CNN, ESPN, kids playground and parking lot, internet access and meeting room for up to 180 persons. Free Continental Breakfast, Free 24 hour Business Center with computer/DSL internet access, fax and copies. Room includes hairdryer, coffee maker, alarm clock and safe. Most rooms include micro/fridge. SubGenius: Whenever it is, it is, and I will be there. BobS: so SUCK on that !!!!!!! SubGenius: Cut-n-paste? George: Why is it in Bush country? BobS: I is pretty good eh????? BobS: ya mon Pam / Erin: pool - excellent rich-c: so how about putting up the into on the website - maybe even with a decent picture ;-) Pam / Erin: DSL - excellent Pam / Erin: coffee - good BobS: we'uns is gonna HAVE FUN Pam / Erin: (that from Erin) SubGenius: But no poutine... Daniel B: sorry if I'm quiet... I'm talking with James and sending e-mails. Harvie Powis: Bob, you type fast rich-c: now I'll have to buy a network card for my laptop Pam / Erin: we can make our own in the microwave : ) rich-c: tell james it's daylight time here now and he should be sociable :-) Pam / Erin: tell James Hi, Daniel Harvie Powis: tor.forsale.computers Richard George: why are they having ADAMCON in Bush country? BobS: get a wireless card 802.11 b compliant.....such as Belkin F5d6020 OR Netgear MA401 SubGenius: Because Carter Country was full? Pam / Erin: because we have ADAM friends in El Paso, George BobS: they will both work with the wireless router setup we plan on bringing in for the cahat session rich-c: is that a URL, Harve? if so, .com? .net? .biz? George: you have them in Philly Harvie Powis: Usenet Richard SubGenius: No wireless for any laptop I have access to...just 10baseT CAT5. Pam / Erin: we'll get there George, but if we do, you'll have to do the organizing rich-c: oh, right, a newsgroup George: unless you dropped me as a friend rich-c: OK, made a note of it, Harvie SubGenius: 1....2....3.... Harvie Powis: Usually one of those each day offered for sale SubGenius: 4.....5......6...... SubGenius: 7......8......9......10. SubGenius: Now I feel better. Pam / Erin: why? rich-c: besides, we've never been to ElPaso, but we have been to Philly SubGenius: Reminds me of "Sesame Street". rich-c: even heard teh Wanamaker organ before it got burned SubGenius: Soothing childhood memories. Harvie Powis: Because it's not cold in the basement :) SubGenius: Yeah, up to about 50 F down here now, quite toasty. BobS: never been ther either, although Jean talks highle of the place rich-c: from the map I'd guess it is a rather small town SubGenius: But *everything's* big in Texas! George: i'm hungry hunGRY HUNGRY! BobS: mucho grande.........it is rich-c: well, by American standards - but up here our bigs are bigger Harvie Powis: That's the river Bob rich-c: Ontario is more than twice teh size of Texas - so is Quebec SubGenius: ROTFL Harvie. rich-c: me, I'm getting thirsty, but it isn't quite time for my beer yet Pam / Erin: we got braggin rights - we just don't use 'em SubGenius: I can't imagine Erin not bragging if she had something to brag about :-) rich-c: but watch out if Erin ever gets transferred to the Tourism ministry Pam / Erin: and just what are you all implying? Meeka: ok, I am otta here, gotta go find more coughh syrup :( SubGenius: Ministry of Silly Walks... rich-c: ;-) rich-c: take it easy, Meeka Pam / Erin: are you icky, Meeka? SubGenius: I'll leave that to your superior intellects, Pamerin :-) Meeka: ya, I feel like death warmed over SubGenius: I was in bed all weekend with it, TG it is over... Pam / Erin: oh - not good - go get some cough syrup and feel better : ) SubGenius: 5 days of Robitussin is not good for you.
Meeka left chat session rich-c: you are so right - that is rough stuff SubGenius: It works...but it is nasty. Harvie Powis: Johnny Walker Black Label is much better Doc Pam / Erin: I don't have any problems with Robitussen SubGenius: T-totaller, Harvie :-) rich-c: sure Red Label isn't better in that application, Harvie? Harvie Powis: But you must take your medicine Rich SubGenius: Well, after a while Robitussin starts to have codeine-like side effects on me, and I have never tolerated codeine very well. rich-c: oddly enough, small amounts of codeine do not bother me at all George: i have a bag of chips dated Apr. 1804 SubGenius: Shuts down GI tract...makes me spacy. Harvie Powis: Enough Scotch and you don't care about the cold anymore SubGenius: After a dose of codeine following oral surgery, I saw an eyeball on the ceiling once. rich-c: cute, George - that's the best before, right? SubGenius: And I knew that it was impossible for it to be there, but the eyeball didn't listen to Spockian logic. George: its old to my Pam / Erin: that must have been some high, Rich SubGenius: It hung there on the ceiling and looked at me. SubGenius: This was around 1987. SubGenius: It was a misperception of a ceiling light fixture. rich-c: sheesh! - teh morphine after my surgery plugged up the plumbing for a bit, but once I was onto codeine (Tylenol 3) everything was fine Pam / Erin: I hate the feeling of a codeine high SubGenius: One of the reasons that I don't drink, I am probably physiologically very sensitive to it...and there is family history about such things, too :-( Pam / Erin: however, the painkilling effects are great rich-c: I don't get high, I just get woozy - I remember very little about my clinic stay SubGenius: I have altered perceptions, and I hate it. SubGenius: Too strong a reality principle, I guess. SubGenius: I am loony enough without dope, anyways. Harvie Powis: But life is so boring with unaltered perceptions rich-c: OK, I do not have those problems, which is why I can enjoy wine and beer - moderately, anyway rich-c: and when I got to rehab and only one T3 a day everything was clear George: i can't wait for the grapes to turn. i eat them too fast Daniel B: Bob, you just sent an e-mail to adamcon mailing list ? rich-c: just got to buy them ripe, George SubGenius: Green (unripe) grapes means a tummy-ache, George. George: red globe Harvie Powis: Make your own wine sip by sip george? BobS: si Daniel rich-c: not necessarily - Thompson Seedless are ripe when green George: sweet red globe rich-c: so how come I don't have it yet, Bob? BobS: don't know Richard........ rich-c: we get our grapes from Chile but I didn't notice any in today rich-c: I'm on DSL and have the mail notification set
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changed username to Judy rich-c: hello judy Pam / Erin: greetings Judy George: its soon time for strawberries Judy: Hi, everyone SubGenius: Hi Judy. Harvie Powis: Hello Judy George: hi Judy rich-c: only the southern ones, George - the really nice Redcoats won't come in till June rich-c: California strawberries are around now - gorgeous looking, but the taste - yeech! SubGenius: Add plenty of sugar to eat them. Judy: doesn't get the taste that a home grown has rich-c: yes, but you have to add so much sugar you can't taste the berries! Pam / Erin: mmmm, strawberries George: and a drop of balsamic vinegar rich-c: I remember one year we followed teh strawberry harvest up the St. Lawrence and into the Maritimes SubGenius: Vinegar on strawberries, ew. Judy: what will that do George George: bring out flavor rich-c: we finished our last box of strawberries the day the first peaches came in Pam / Erin: what hardship, Dad George: with sugar rich-c: you have no idea how your mother suffered rich-c: luckily the peach season was long and lush, otherwise I might never have got her home Pam / Erin: I sympathize Dad Judy: is everyone having the wonderful weather that we are? SubGenius: Very cold but sunny here in Cleveland. George: nice day here rich-c: we did have a sunny period this afternoon, but it was still chilly Judy: was warm and sunny here today Pam / Erin: send warm, Judy Harvie Powis: Chilly wind here in Brampton today George: sunny 70f rich-c: I didn't need my sunglasses to drive over to the cardio lab this morning, though Judy: no, will keep it all to myself SubGenius: The rope pull contest in CWRU's Greek Week on Sunday took place in snow... Pam / Erin: Judy, play nice and share! rich-c: hatye you, George! ;-) Judy: how are you doing, Rich SubGenius: The trench of water almost had ice in it... Pam / Erin: is that how you got sick Rich? SubGenius: No, I was home in bed...I just heard about it. Judy: not with warm weather, I neeed it SubGenius: I slept 16 hours Saturday, same Sunday. Judy: was out uncovering the pond today rich-c: that you should do more often, Rich Pam / Erin: probably needed it Rich - you do have a tendency to burn the candle at both ends and in the middle SubGenius: I had a lab seminar to give Friday, but I was coming down with this "Sumerian Flu" as our students jokingly call it on last Tuesday. Judy: the fish are wanting to go out in the sun shine SubGenius: So, no chance to stay home to shake it off...had to buy Friday's seminar with a bigger crash later. rich-c: I don't think we're out of the woods for freezing yet, Judy Pam / Erin: take them for a walk, Judy Judy: I know but I am really ready SubGenius: I was a jiggly sick fellow after I was done Friday; seminar went well, fortunately, but it was a big price to pay. rich-c: yes, you can push yourself only so far, then that's it Judy: the little guys have had the flu, nasty stuff rich-c: lucky you even made it through the seminar SubGenius: Also, with Passover being this week, my orthodox co-instructor is out most of the week, so I have the robot course to myself. Pam / Erin: my mother's always nagging me to get more sleep -she knows I get sick easily if i don't get enough rich-c: now you know why she's always sick ;-) Judy: only the boys had it, SubGenius: If I could trade in some responsibilities, I could get more sleep. Pam / Erin: I am not always sick!!!
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changed username to james SubGenius: Pam seems quite healthy. james: right on time SubGenius: At least she did in Toronto in January.
moved to room Meeting Place james: :P Pam / Erin: there is nothing that says you have to do it all Rich rich-c: good morning, james, decided to join the rest of us, I see Pam / Erin: Hi, James Judy: hi, James
changed username to Scott james: hi Pam / Erin: you're an hour late James Pam / Erin: we're back to DST james: who's the lowly subgenius? james: yeah, i remembered.. about an hour too late Pam / Erin: the sickly Dr. D SubGenius: Recovering now, fortunately. SubGenius: Only my "genius" is still "sub"... rich-c: I would have hoped Daniel would remind you
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changed username to BobS George: bedttime for me rich-c: hello Scott, haven't seen you for a while Judy: Hi, Scott SubGenius: The girls' Spring Break, yes. CWRU's was 3 weeks ago. BobS: yaa made it !!!!! rich-c: got to pack it in, George? Scott: Yes, been busy. Just got back from my Java class Pam / Erin: bye, George George: yes SubGenius: ROTFL, unintentional pun, Scott? rich-c: night then, George Pam / Erin: well you're in the right place then, Scott : ) George: Nite all SubGenius: Bye George. Scott: Yes, completely unitentional ol' evil SubGenius man rich-c: Scott, I need some information from you about the MI 256K memory expander Judy: nite George George: bye, poof james: he did remind me Harvie Powis: They teach you how to drink coffee? james: but i forgot Scott: So... ADAMCon's in Texas???
George left chat session Judy: yes, it is SubGenius: Haha Scott. rich-c: yep, should be an easy flight for you on Soiuthwesat, Scott Scott: Rich - what info do you need? rich-c: I have one where the addressing pin was left off Scott: Southwest doesn't go out of Denver, I believe rich-c: I need to know where the adressor wire needs to go rich-c: no Southwest from Denver? that seems odd Scott: Honestly I wouldn't know. But I bet I know who would. SubGenius: Finnair, maybe? :-) rich-c: maybe they couldn't get acceptable takeoff slots at the airport - is it very busy? rich-c: besides your father, who, Scott? Scott: I will double check. Hopefully I'm wrong. Scott: I was implying my dad. rich-c: yes, Southwest has good prices. Unfortunately they have dropped their Toronto service Scott: I wonder how long of a drive it would be. SubGenius: Any other carriers out of Toronto? rich-c: if you can get the info, Scott, it would resolve much frustration SubGenius: Mapquest tells me 25 hour drive from Cleveland... SubGenius: ...anyone want to carpool? Van caravans are a great ADAMcon tradition. Pam / Erin: you don't like the way I drive, Rich : ) rich-c: we can't afford teh time to drive it in September - that's why we wanted October Scott: Yeah, just pick me up in Denver on the way :) SubGenius: Too bad Erin can't drive, it would be a fun trio. Pam / Erin: she watches really well : ) SubGenius: She can be the navigatrix. SubGenius: Keep me from missing that left turn at Albuquerque. Pam / Erin: and that's not to say she can't drive, she just isn't licensed to do so Pam / Erin: she likes that title SubGenius: -tor, trix SubGenius: -trix I meant Scott: Rich - I will ask him on Easter, that's when I'll see him next rich-c: if you get to Albuquerque, you've gone too far. Back up SubGenius: aviator, aviatrix Scott: Trix are for kidz! SubGenius: Beat me to it, Scott! Harvie Powis: Dominator ... Pam / Erin: Kix are for trids SubGenius: I was just typing it. Pam / Erin: not going there Harvie SubGenius: Dunno if Pam/Erin want to go there, Harvie... rich-c: please do, Scott; I've asked around teh Adam list and even those who have the carrds installed can't be bothered to reply - I am no little put out Scott: Daniel B - Mike tells me you're almost done with Game Pack 2 SubGenius: My cards are all buried, Richard... SubGenius: And I think where the jumper wire comes from depends upon what model of center-slot card you have... Scott: Rich, why don't you send me the problem in an e-mail and I will forward it on to my dad. SubGenius: If it's one of Scott's Dad's, there should at least be white silkscreen labelling on the card for jumpers, like J1, J2, J3 etc. rich-c: what's your current email address, Scott? BobS: Richard, you got the wrong adam list.....i haven't seen anythign on that SubGenius: Richard did post to Coladam. Scott: I don't know his e-mail offhand (that's bad, I know...) Scott: email@example.com rich-c: I mean yours, Scott BobS: how's come I didn't get it?????? rich-c: OK Scott, got it copied Harvie Powis: I got it but I have never had that card so I didn't reply rich-c: dunno Bob - I'll send you a copy Daniel B: Q: "Daniel B - Mike tells me you're almost done with Game Pack 2" Daniel B: R: "Yes, just a few things to fix and it's done" Daniel B: 9 reflexion games based on a 8x8 board plus 3 bonus games. Scott: That Daniel B: it's less games than the first Gamepack but I received good feedback about this new project. Scott: That's great news, and very fast, I might add Scott: Awesome SubGenius: Daniel is quite a good programmer. Scott: As you know, I'm also working on my project again. Scott: Yes, better than me Daniel B: And James is doing a good job with his Coleco web page project. Scott: Didn't know he was working on one. james: he is :P Scott: It it in English and Japanese? james: just english for now Scott: I like that *for now* james: i'll localize it later Daniel B: Let me think... the second language will be french. =P Pam / Erin: have you updated your regular web page recently James? Scott: Are you also programming? james: not in ages. i'm "getting around to it" rich-c: maybe even enlist Daniel to help make it trilingual? Harvie Powis: James, what's the URL? I lost my Favourites folder Scott: Actually, I'm going to make my game available in Spanish as well james: www.colecoshop.com james: nothing but an intro page now. i'll link to the working pages once a little more has been developed and we test it out SubGenius: I volunteer to do the Elvish translation. Daniel B: Give them a clue about what you have done recently on the web page. james: it'll likely be english and french Scott: Another good programmer is Brazilian, so I guess we'll have to do a Portuguese version as well james: though japanese would be easier for me, dan can polish up my french a bit james: are you referring to eduardo? Scott: Must be nice to be multiligual. I only speak a little English and a little Spanish :( SubGenius: Rewriting English in tengwar text is trivial. Scott: Yes, the Mello man james: @sub, lol Harvie Powis: Thanks James, I have it bookmarked SubGenius: I learnt it in 11th grade...1978... SubGenius: Have been writing stuff in it ever since. james: @sub, you're dating yourself there :P james: good way to keep stuff mostly private though SubGenius: Yes, not a strong cypher, but it discourages the casual gawker. SubGenius: Dating is okay, James. SubGenius: My age is my age... Harvie Powis: Try writing it in Anguish Languish rich-c: you bragging or complaining, Rich? SubGenius: Or Swedish Chef... Scott: Or Elven. Scott: JRR would be proud rich-c: no, but he's good at Klingon, I've heard SubGenius: "Eensert the chickee eento the cartridgee slot, bork bork bork!" Scott: Klingon, now that's original! SubGenius: 50-50 brag/complain, Richard. james: lol james: a good mix james: who's good at klingon? rich-c: long as your Scott: What's that language that Jar Jar Binx speaks? SubGenius: Q'PlaH! means "good luk!" rich-c: long as you're still around to do it, might as well brag SubGenius: Dunno how to say "You have no honour!" SubGenius: Meesa no know, meesa no wanna know. Pam / Erin: wait, let me get the Kllingon dictionary SubGenius: I have a 1st edition packed away. SubGenius: It has evolved considerably since then. rich-c: there's a dictionary of Klingon??? rich-c: never mind, I'm not sure I want to know... Pam / Erin: of course, Dad - and it translates both ways SubGenius: Jar-Jar is lucky to have enough brain cells to drive a speech center. SubGenius: There's a Bible translated into Klingon. Scott: Yeah, let's do a special "Hooked on Phonics" edition! SubGenius: And Shakespeare plays. Pam / Erin: in the original Klingon SubGenius: And there are 2 major dialects that have evolved from actual use. rich-c: does babelfish know about this? SubGenius: Don't think there is a babelfish translator for it yet. rich-c: bummer Harvie Powis: I'll bet it plays hell with the rhyming couplets Doc SubGenius: Klingon was devised by a linguist to be as non-Indo-European as he could make it. Pam / Erin: Holy '80's, dad SubGenius: And to be as gutteral and spitty as possible. james: i've read about that rich-c: sort of like German james: he was specifically commissioned to make a full, real language for use in the show SubGenius: And to completely lack a verb for "to be". SubGenius: Which played the hob with ST6 when Gurkon had to do Hamlet's soliloquy in Klingon... rich-c: I knew I didn't want to know.... james: heh heh james: @sub, what's the overall structure? ie: english is SVO, japanese is SOV BobS: OK Richard, go the email now....will try and remember to dig out some and check it out SubGenius: Hmmm...it's agglutinative, like Amerind languages. SubGenius: Lots of particles and postfixes... rich-c: geez, that took long enough, Bob - web must be slow tonight james: very much like japanese then Pam / Erin: must be you, Dad - I got it the first time Scott: I'll have to bother you with all my Japanese questions, James james: so overall it's post-positional then? rich-c: no, this was an individual forward to Bob BobS: naw, just checked BobS: the mail Pam / Erin: oh SubGenius: It has been a long time since I looked at the book...you could probably find something by Googling for "Klingon grammar". james: good idea. ok, miyuki is back so i need to head off to my other job SubGenius: I remember "hello" translates literally as "What do you want?!?!?!?" Pam / Erin: Hi Miyuki! rich-c: OK james, at least you had a bit more time today james: i remember reading that somewhere too james: yeah, i'll try to remember to come on earlier next week SubGenius: And I remember some phrases from the phrasebook at the end, that were just silly: SubGenius: "Your nose is shiny". and james: lol SubGenius: "Where did you hide the chocolate?" SubGenius: There's one for Pamela... james: anyway, gotta jet! *poof* Pam / Erin: nite James SubGenius: Poof! james: P'oof! rich-c: nite james SubGenius: hahaha Pam / Erin: obviously the female half of the population : )
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changed username to bair Pam / Erin: can't make a death ray without more parts : ) rich-c: all hail teh Bair - welcome! Pam / Erin: Hi, Bair! SubGenius: You have to stop eating them, Pam. bair: Hi every one rich-c: how's life among teh Hoosiers, Bob? SubGenius: Hello Bob Bair. Harvie Powis: Is that Bob Bair? Pam / Erin: you have to read "How Much for Just the Planet", Rich SubGenius: Another HHGTTG book? bair: it is getting wamer rich-c: and we can all stand a bit of that, Bob Pam / Erin: ?? BobS: Mister BAIR !!!!!! bair: i see there some here that i don't know BobS: the one and only Bob !!!!! Pam / Erin: HHGTTG? I've forgotten the translation BobS: How the wife ??????? and ya'll ?????? rich-c: my daugheter Pamela, my niece Erin, Daniel the games writer from Quebec bair: i don't think i am that bair: oh it is fair Harvie Powis: I met you at Adamcon 007 Bob bair: soon be a year rich-c: and Scott is Scott Gordon from Colorado (say MI jr.) ;-) SubGenius: Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. bair: that has been a long time rich-c: does that cover teh unknowns, Bob? SubGenius: And I am Dr. Rich Drushel hiding under this moniker. Pam / Erin: ah, I should have known that. No, its a ST:TOS book SubGenius: Oh, is that the old Harry Mudd novel? 1970s vintage? Pam / Erin: btw, I found the Klingon dictionary Daniel B: I had the impressiong that SubGenius was Dr.D. Pam / Erin: No, it's not a Mudd story SubGenius: Then I am thinking of a different book. Pam / Erin: I, Mudd or Mudd's Women? SubGenius: Yes, my intellect is subpar tonight, Daniel, hence the descriptive alias. Pam / Erin: Q'plah means success, by the way Daniel B: 2+2=? SubGenius: No, someone wrote a novel using Harry Mudd. SubGenius: Yes, good luck. Pam / Erin: we probably have it somewhere, Rich. Or else Kimberly does bair: harry mudd was on star trek SubGenius: 11 in base 3, Daniel. Daniel B: you are right! :) Pam / Erin: how do you get 11, Rich? SubGenius: (1*3)+(1) = 4 rich-c: by calculating on base 3 Daniel B: base 3 use only three numbers : 0,1 and 2 SubGenius: Q.E.D., X.Y.Z., P.D.Q. rich-c: A>S.A.P. SubGenius: Back to remedial maths for you, Pammie :-) rich-c: AKA Daniel B: if we count, it's done something like this: 0, 1, 2, 10, 11, 12, 20, 21, 22, 100 bair: that is wrong 2+1=3 SubGenius: In base 10, yes, Bob. SubGenius: But in base 3, your only digits are 0, 1, and 2. Pam / Erin: alright, I've caught up now rich-c: you can't do it in binary because that doesn't have a two SubGenius: "Sesame Street" again :-) SubGenius: "Oh who are the people in your neighborhood..." Daniel B: Dr.D: When we need to use the base 3? I only use base 2,8,10 and 16. bair: that is your first problem Scott: Sorry, I slipped out a moment rich-c: where do you use the octal, Rich? Scott: Bob Bair, that name rings a bell SubGenius: Never, Daniel, I was being a "smart-aleck"...not sure what the French translation is. bair: hope not to loud Daniel B: I know smart. We use this word here. rich-c: une idiotisme, daniel SubGenius: Dolor d'posterieur? :-) BobS: Scott Gordon !!!!!! the Bair is our ANN treasurer extrodinair rich-c: that I very much doubt, Rich SubGenius: Pepe Le Pew French is about my limit... rich-c: us old folks pick it up from Mamselle Hepzibah... SubGenius: Pepe got his from Maurice Chevallier IIRC. bair: some old folks don't even know that SubGenius: Still, I thought I was clever... It is so insulting to be called a "pain in the ***", but "dolor d'posterieur" has a certain grandeur, even if it is faux. rich-c: but pain is doulour BobS: who you callin OLD ???????? Pam / Erin: Rich, do you know the original printing date of the Klingon dictionary?
(BobS reboots bair's computer remotely.) SubGenius: I want to say 1986 or so. Scott: That's right. How are you Bob??? rich-c: now don't you kids start squabbling there, Bobs Pam / Erin: then I have an original here - copyright 1985 bair: getting better i think SubGenius: I was close..."dolor" is the Latin version. Pam / Erin: or the spanish version rich-c: as in teh name "Dolores" SubGenius: Mine, whatever year it is, says "First Edition" on the title page. SubGenius: Does yours? rich-c: was there ever a second edition? SubGenius: Many editions...expanded vocabulary... Pam / Erin: Mine says First Pocket Books Science Fiction Printing December 1985 SubGenius: Then that is it. Pam / Erin: wow! we have a first edition! Scott: Dan -- any other projects in the work other than Game Pack 2? SubGenius: E-bay and yer goin' to El Paso in style!!!! rich-c: ah, first printing - edition not mentioned though SubGenius: :-) SubGenius: Marc Okrand invented Klingon for ST3. Pam / Erin: picky, picky Daniel B: I will have to leave soon. My brother will be here tonight to visit us during this very long week-end. SubGenius: The Klingon spoken in ST:TMP is gobbledygook, not the same. rich-c: ah yes, Pacques SubGenius: ST2:TWOK was 1982...so 1985 time frame sounds right to me. Scott: I gotta go too. Wife need the computer :( SubGenius: I am a First Edition Rich-Speaker. rich-c: everyone gets Friday off this week Scott: See you all next week.
Scott left chat session SubGenius: Ha I wish... BobS: ok Scott rich-c: see you, Scott bair: tell her she has to wait SubGenius: (to Richard's comment) Pam / Erin: cool - shall have to check it out. It's in good condition, too SubGenius: Bye Scott. Pam / Erin: night Scott Harvie Powis: Not here Richard Daniel B: Scott: Yes, I'm thinking about finally release my project Jeepers Creepers. I also worked on a PIANO software to compose Coleco music with the PC keyboard. And I've done a CODEC to add small movie clip. I think it's enough for this year. :) Daniel B: shit, my answer takes too long. SubGenius: Merde! SubGenius: :-) Daniel B: oui, merde! Pam / Erin: see, you do speak French! Pam / Erin: I just realized -we're missing Guy tonite rich-c: that's the last thing a racing driver says before he hits the wall SubGenius: "Only the good parts" (as in "The Princess Bride" abridgement) Daniel B: rich: you are right! :) rich-c: I noticed that; he didn't turn up Saturday as he thought he would either Pam / Erin: Hmm. Pam / Erin: we're missing Ron too SubGenius: Jean-Luc Picard says "Merde!" a few times during season 1 ST:TNG episodes. Daniel B: George was here? rich-c: he has his volunteer stuff, though I thought that was over Harvie Powis: Out with his new girlfriend maybe Pam / Erin: Perhaps, Harvie rich-c: with Guy, one never knows Pam / Erin: oui, Daniel Pam / Erin: he does Rich? Pam / Erin: when? SubGenius: Can't remember the episode titles... SubGenius: But J-L was more "French" early on. bair: bob is judy still plaing Adam Bomb SubGenius: I think he mumbled it whenever "The Boy" was on "my Bridge" :-) Daniel B: BTW, I'm continuing my CODEC. I think I can have a better rendering result with less data. Pam / Erin: yeah, that would make sense SubGenius: Poor Wesley. rich-c: one keeps forgetting, Daniel, that programming in 64K of space is far more demanding Pam / Erin: he was much abused, wasn't he? SubGenius: I have a JPEG of Wesley getting stabbed somewhere, my first Photoshop/video editing effort, back in 1992 or so... Daniel B: I'm programming 32K rom. it's the limit. :) SubGenius: Lemme see... rich-c: right, I forgot about the memory split Daniel B: I just have to use another reserved byte number to do someting else than RLE encoding. I'm thinking about copying graphic data from one square to another square (square=character). rich-c: which I suspect, come to think of it, is the reason for teh ROM limit SubGenius: http://junior.apk.net/~drushel/weasel.jpeg BobS: Bair,,,,,,not lately, i blew up her computer an lost the saved version BobS: and now she is a little lost as to what to do....start over or not SubGenius: From a Q episode, I think, too. bair: i bet she love you for that Daniel B: I still don't know what Dale Wick was done in the past but I think my CODEC is going great. :) Harvie Powis: Blowed up real good did it Bob? BobS: ah....no....she did NOT think it was funny. I can NOT understand why though rich-c: hey, that you even drew a rewsponse from Dale is a triumph rich-c: he hasn't talked to anyone else here for months BobS: uh huh Harv.......formatted it and started over......
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BobS confirmed ban SubGenius: It's a Twin Pamerin! Daniel B: Well, I received two or three e-mails from him last week. Pamela / Erin: Oops, dumped us Daniel B: About a possible job in the phone company to do games. BobS: well I axe3d ya just now SubGenius: Phone company? Daniel B: I don't fully understand Pamela / Erin: Yes, that's from the first Q episode, I believe Pamela / Erin: thanks Bob rich-c: I think Dale may have enough French that if you ask him to clarify, he can do it BobS: yes'm rich-c: but Dale isn't with the phone company, he's with Best Buy rich-c: maybe they need some games for cell phones they sell? SubGenius: Who knows, with all the mergers... Daniel B: Who knows? Maybe Gamepack will be available for mobile phones. rich-c: any idea what OS a cellphone uses? the game-capable ones? SubGenius: EOS :_) Daniel B: Dale tell me that they programmed Embeded Java software. rich-c: or they will by the time you getr finished with them, right, Daniel? ;-) Harvie Powis: Can't be WINCE. They work. rich-c: now, Harvey, don't be bitter - Bill Gates didn't send you those worms SubGenius: If I throw a data pack hard enough at my ADAM, it will be embedded software :-) Pamela / Erin: yes, but embedded in what? rich-c: I dunno, every time I try that, they just bounce off :-) Pamela / Erin: exactly my point Harvie Powis: Yes but he supplied the ideal platform for them to propogate Daniel B: funny guy! SubGenius: Throw harder, Richard. BobS: YOU WOULD throw somethign AT your ADAM ????? rich-c: well, my Windows Update free cd is on teh way, so if I do crash I can do a fully updated restore SubGenius: We all do, Bob...$$$, for starters :-) rich-c: yes, lots of those, rich bair: but he does not blow it up Harvie Powis: At least he doesn't blow them up Bob SubGenius: Magic smoke release is good. BobS: that is true, at least rich is gentle while he is angry.......... rich-c: besides, I still have Guy Cousineau's Adam backup device BobS: DON'T let the smoke OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 rich-c: but if it gets out, use teh device to gather it up so you can stuff it all back in SubGenius: It's hard to be gentle and angry at the same time. bair: the phone is ringing so I will say good by rich-c: it's somthing teachers learn, Rich - or else
bair left chat session Pamela / Erin: nite Biar BobS: it is a rather bad idea to put smoke back in.........some ALWAYS escapes rich-c: night Bob, come again soon BobS: nite Bair BobS: say HI to Ginia SubGenius: Sigh, is Bair well enough to travel yet? Harvie Powis: Goodnight Bob, talk to you in another decade or so :) rich-c: yes, and it plays hell with your video display SubGenius: He and Virginia haven't been to a convention since 9, right? rich-c: he's apparently had job obligations that kept him groundeed BobS: I think...........since before that BobS: or maybe was 9 SubGenius: I thought it was health problems mostly...but I could be misremembering. rich-c: I also do not think Ginny is an enthusiast of conventions SubGenius: He's such a jolly guy, I miss him. Harvie Powis: Isn't he a volunteer firefighter? rich-c: don't know about that, but he's with Emergency Services - fairly significant position too, I gather BobS: Bair had a BAD colon infection, operation, couldn't sit for months.........then son got killed last year........ BobS: all in all a rough go of it the last 4 or 5 years SubGenius: Tim, sigh.... rich-c: ah, didn't know about the plumbing problems BobS: he's with civil defense harv........and yes pretty high up rich-c: and I'd guess since 9/11 the heat has been pretty heavy SubGenius: Osama won't mess with The Bair :-) BobS: well kids....gotta go here BobS: been FUN yaknow Pamela / Erin: nite, Bob rich-c: time is getting on, Bob - take care, then SubGenius: FUN INDEED. Pamela / Erin: nite to Judy too BobS: but all good things must be postponed till later SubGenius: Ha Harvie Powis: Good Night Bob BobS: nite SubGenius: Bye Bob.
BobS left chat session rich-c: y3ep, time is running down Pamela / Erin: why do I picture all night talkathons in September? SubGenius: I think I will get tired before then. rich-c: Pam: cardiology lab visit was good - tell you later Harvie Powis: I think I'll call it a night, see you all next Wed. SubGenius: Oh yes, I had meant to inquire... Pamela / Erin: okay Dad Pamela / Erin: Night, Harvie rich-c: night, Harvie SubGenius: Glad it's okay, Richard. SubGenius: Bye Harvie.
Harvie Powis left chat session SubGenius: Did the Wizard give you a Testimonial from his little black bag? rich-c: Pulse still up, fibrillation not present, BP nice Pamela / Erin: that's good news Dad SubGenius: Indeed. rich-c: didn't hesitate to book a followup appointment in October SubGenius: But still tachycardia is not what one would like to see. Pamela / Erin: any suggestions as to the cause of the tachycardia? rich-c: true, but maybe it is coming under control, and if the fibrillation is gone it's not especially dangerous Pamela / Erin: did you mention your meds Dad? Pamela / Erin: sometimes they can be a cause rich-c: well, it's always a problem with the atrial electrical circuits, but beyond that little is known rich-c: don't know where it comes from or why Pamela / Erin: ah, idiopathic. Helpful. SubGenius: Doctorspeak for " SubGenius: "magic" rich-c: yes, sometimes drugs work, sometimes they don't; there are various surgical approaches possible Pamela / Erin: surgical? not again SubGenius: No electrolyte imbalances, I take it from the lab work? rich-c: but I am not at a point whre any heavy intervention should be considered. Daniel B: My brother is there. I have to turn off my computer. SubGenius: Yes, cut vagus nerve, implant pacemaker. Pamela / Erin: g'nite Daniel. Happy Easter SubGenius: Good bye Daniel. Pamela / Erin: not good Dad Daniel B: Joyeuse Pâques Daniel B: :) rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - salud a votre frere Daniel B: je vais saluer mon frčre, oui. Daniel B: bye! Daniel B: au revoir! Pamela / Erin: bonsoir! rich-c: oh the pacemaker is a last step usually reserved for V-fib when all else fails - I'm nowhere near that
Daniel B left chat session Pamela / Erin: that Pamela / Erin: 's good Pamela / Erin: besides, that's ventrical, isn't it? SubGenius: You could always use an ADAM to control it... SubGenius: :-) rich-c: yes, there's some scientific report I saw once that used it as a neat timing circuit... SubGenius: COLECO PRESENTS SmartPACEMAKER SubGenius: That was me :-) Pamela / Erin: yeah, but the ADAM gets kinda heavy to carry around : ) SubGenius: But you can play video games while you maintain a constant heart rate. rich-c: anyway, time for me to bail, too - gotta take out the garbage and recycling SubGenius: It would totally rule! SubGenius: Our garbage day was today. Pamela / Erin: problem is, most video games increase BP Pamela / Erin: okay, nite Daddy SubGenius: Have to play only the dull ones, then... Pamela / Erin: <E> nite Uncle Richard SubGenius: Good night, Richard. rich-c: goodnight all - see you Sat or Wed Pamela / Erin: Dad, will call tomorrow rich-c: colour me gone
rich-c left chat session Pamela / Erin: just what is the colour of gone anyway? SubGenius: Transparent. Pamela / Erin: okay, that will do. SubGenius: The absence of all everything. Pamela / Erin: that's pretty profound Pamela / Erin: especially for 11:30 at night SubGenius: I read it in "The Book of the SubGenius" SubGenius: (no lie) Pamela / Erin: where can we get a copy of this? SubGenius: http://www.subgenius.com/ Pamela / Erin: so how fast can you read a novel, my friend? SubGenius: And follow the links to stuff you can buy. Pamela / Erin: scary SubGenius: Depends...I finished HP 5 in 6 hours. SubGenius: But only for plot. SubGenius: "The House of the Seven Gables"...weeks.... SubGenius: What novel? Pamela / Erin: wondering if we bring ST novels to the con if you'll finish them in a weekend SubGenius: No. Pamela / Erin: although I could just mail them : SubGenius: Because it would be a misuse of ADAMcon time to read ST novels. Pamela / Erin: alright, fair enough SubGenius: Other things are more important. SubGenius: Thought appreciated, though. Pamela / Erin: here - have E for a while - gotta go get a drink SubGenius: Gladly...
Pamela / Erin changed username to Erin / Pamela SubGenius: Typing is thirsty work? Erin / Pamela: apparently SubGenius: So E, now I have you...now what? SubGenius: Do you have a busy workweek before Easter? Erin / Pamela: no not really, I got a lot of filing done this week Erin / Pamela: quite productive Erin / Pamela: going to Windsor for the w/e SubGenius: Sounds fun. Erin / Pamela: always <rolls eyes> SubGenius: Talked to my Dad tonight, we will be going to visit either him or my stepsister on Sunday afternoon. Erin / Pamela: :-) Erin / Pamela: cool SubGenius: Not happy back home? SubGenius: We get final decision by tomorrow now, stepmom and stepsister are still haggling over venue. Erin / Pamela: it's fine right now, I'm just used to rolling my eyes to the idea Erin / Pamela: are they far from you? SubGenius: About 75 minute drive. SubGenius: Southeast. Erin / Pamela: not too bad SubGenius: I will let Christina drive. SubGenius: I will sleep if she keeps the radio down. Erin / Pamela: is the whole gang going? SubGenius: All but Joan, who must work evening shift. They will all go to church in the morning, though. SubGenius: We will probably be leaving around 2 PM, back home around 9 PM. Erin / Pamela: <P> obviously you trust Christina's driving SubGenius: She drives at least as well as me...better than her mother... Erin / Pamela: <P> LOL SubGenius: It's true. Erin / Pamela: <evilly> better than Pam? SubGenius: Joan does not drive with confidence and destabilizes surrounding traffic. Erin / Pamela: She HIT ME!!! SubGenius: Well... SubGenius: Since I'm on my side of the US-CN border, I will plead my 5th constitutional amendment. Erin / Pamela: <P> c'mon I'm not that bad SubGenius: If you can get me on your side, then I will fall under your jurisdiction and I will talk. SubGenius: You aren't :-) SubGenius: Joan doesn't drive as fast as you would. Erin / Pamela: I foresee a kidnapping SubGenius: That is part of her "destabilization", she tends to drive to slow. SubGenius: too slow. Erin / Pamela: <P> I drive with confidence SubGenius: Confidence is good. Joan doesn't have it. SubGenius: Christina does. She has driven fine, I have no qualms. Erin / Pamela: <P> that's good Erin / Pamela: <P> a lot of first time drivers don't have a lot of confidence SubGenius: If the next time you see me, I'm in hospital with body cast, though, then I will rethink it. Erin / Pamela: ie, me SubGenius: Erin has no confidence? SubGenius: Coulda fooled me based upon Toronto...but that was only 3 days,. Erin / Pamela: not in driving, but I lack practice Erin / Pamela: naaa, just a drama queen as I have been told :-) SubGenius: Well dearie...I guess save your pfennigs and groschens and get your license. Erin / Pamela: Pam says yes SubGenius: Drama Queen, LOL. SubGenius: Yes to Queen or yes to saving $$$. Erin / Pamela: yes to getting licensed Erin / Pamela: (yes to Queen too) SubGenius: Mobility is good...if you ever get outside Metro Toronto, where there is not perfect public transportation, you will be stranded. Erin / Pamela: cab it Erin / Pamela: :-D SubGenius: $$$ Erin / Pamela: so's a car my dear SubGenius: And sponging rides gets old :-) Erin / Pamela: and maintenance Erin / Pamela: and gas Erin / Pamela: etc SubGenius: True... Erin / Pamela: I never sponge SubGenius: Just whatever is the right balance for where you live. SubGenius: In Cleveland, having no car is pretty unthinkable. SubGenius: Borrow nicely and sweetly? <bats eyelashes> Erin / Pamela: I will get my license eventually, now that I am in TO and (hopefully) Pam is patient enough Erin / Pamela: exactly SubGenius: <Erin gives Pam chocolate> Erin / Pamela: <sweet, innocent smile> SubGenius: <Pam resists bribe> Erin / Pamela: the first time she yells at me I quit Erin / Pamela: Pam? resist bribe? Erin / Pamela: you so funny Erin / Pamela: :-) SubGenius: Queenie is gonna get crowned again... Erin / Pamela: naaa.....she agrees so long as it's chocolate Erin / Pamela: :-) SubGenius: ...by the Sceptre of Pam's Right Arm With Fist... Erin / Pamela: hehe SubGenius: Christina was not hard to teach to drive. SubGenius: I can imagine Elanor being a pain, though, she has no patience at all. Erin / Pamela: no one's ever been patient enough and I wasn't ready at 16 when my father wanted me to learn SubGenius: Just take your time. SubGenius: Find a big mall with a big parking lot and start there. Erin / Pamela: now golf carts that's a totally different story SubGenius: I rode about 4 hours (over multiple days) with Christina in a parking lot as her very first sessions. Erin / Pamela: that's what Pam said SubGenius: Sunday morning, deserted. Erin / Pamela: perhaps in the nicer weather SubGenius: Low speed, put it in 2nd gear and leave it. SubGenius: Go round and round, make figure 8s, pull into parking spaces, etc. Erin / Pamela: no stick......that's too many thoughts at once for me to start with SubGenius: Just get used to driving it around. SubGenius: I would have trained Christina on a stick if we had a car with one...I learned both 5-speed on floor and 3-speed on column. SubGenius: Highly recommended. SubGenius: But not always possible these days. SubGenius: Not sure a column-shift has been made for about 25 years. Erin / Pamela: it's hard enough getting me behind the wheel of a car....I can learn a stick later Erin / Pamela: I go it Erin / Pamela: I'll just get a motorcycle SubGenius: Well...if I am ever in Toronto in decent weather, I would let you drive around a parking lot with me :-) Erin / Pamela: that way no one to freak me out while learning Erin / Pamela: :-) Erin / Pamela: that's sweet SubGenius: Flopping a motorcycle on pavement is no fun... Erin / Pamela: hopefully you don't start having the visions of "body cast" again SubGenius: Besides, the helmet would mess up your hair...nobody could see it was red. Erin / Pamela: it's all the unique mystery of me Erin / Pamela: :-) Erin / Pamela: <not too modestly> SubGenius: Can you at least ride a pedal bicycle? Erin / Pamela: yes SubGenius: Elanor refuses to learn. Erin / Pamela: why? SubGenius: She was about 15 minutes away from mastery when she was 6, flopped it (no worse than she had flopped all that afternoon), and resolutely walked away. SubGenius: Wuss. Erin / Pamela: hehe SubGenius: Christina hasn't been able to influence her, either. SubGenius: But Elanor has made Diana scared of learning. SubGenius: Double Wuss. Erin / Pamela: LOL SubGenius: And Gretchen has been completely indifferent. Erin / Pamela: dominoe effect SubGenius: Yes. Erin / Pamela: I can ride a bike, roller skate, .....um Erin / Pamela: that's about it SubGenius: I can fall down on roller and ice skates. Erin / Pamela: oh me too SubGenius: I can coast about 10 feet on a skateboard before falling. Erin / Pamela: I just laugh it off SubGenius: No sidewalks, and a gravel driveway where I grew up. Erin / Pamela: that's never helpful SubGenius: So I can't play basketball, either, it won't bounce on a gravel driveway. Erin / Pamela: now that would suck SubGenius: Country boy, I can climb trees etc. though as recompense. Erin / Pamela: that's more adventurous anyway :-) SubGenius: I have wrong height for basketball anyway, at least a meter too short. Erin / Pamela: Zeek SubGenius: Dig in dirt, walk in creek, etc. Erin / Pamela: adveturous science type....you collected crayfish didn't you SubGenius: Well, maybe 650 cm too short. SubGenius: Yep. SubGenius: And snakes. Erin / Pamela: I knew it! SubGenius: And toads. Erin / Pamela: and tadpoles no doubt SubGenius: Found a turtle only once. SubGenius: Yes, had tadpoles. Erin / Pamela: any frogs? SubGenius: The tadpoles were from toads. Erin / Pamela: i figured as much, frogs are hard to come by SubGenius: Frogs are too sly, I couldn't ever get near enough to catch any. SubGenius: I could see their beady little eyes peeking up through the surface of the pond. Erin / Pamela: :-) SubGenius: Kermie hiding from Piggy. Erin / Pamela: shifty little suckers Erin / Pamela: LOLOLOL SubGenius: Found a snake with a toad in its mouth once. Erin / Pamela: consensus --eww Erin / Pamela: I had a pet praying mantis once SubGenius: It eventually gave up, it had grabbed one too big to eat. SubGenius: I've seen a couple PMs. Erin / Pamela: I knew a walking stick once Erin / Pamela: too big SubGenius: We had lots of katydids...and grasshoppers...and crickets... Erin / Pamela: looked like a sp**** SubGenius: sp**** = spider? Erin / Pamela: yes SubGenius: I detect a certain trepidation? Erin / Pamela: arachnophobia Erin / Pamela: just learned how to kill them this past year SubGenius: <lifts eyebrow> Fascinating. SubGenius: Leave 'em alone, they won't hurt you. Erin / Pamela: that and claustrophobia SubGenius: Really? Erin / Pamela: Christmas in a mall = hyperventilation Erin / Pamela: elevators are ok if they are fast enough SubGenius: Pam's car was pretty packed in Toronto, I didn't detect anything...if it was there and I didn't notice, boy I apologize. SubGenius: The Mandarin was pretty busy... Erin / Pamela: it's not a big deal....it's a slight issue Erin / Pamela: but I do notice it from time to time Erin / Pamela: not usually with people I know SubGenius: I was pretty strange in Toronto... Erin / Pamela: strange how? SubGenius: Typing is one thing, in-person is another. Erin / Pamela: you were my radiator :-) SubGenius: strange=unknown, foreign. SubGenius: <smirk> Erin / Pamela: to be scientific -- I only notice the claustrophobia at Christmas an at that, ummm, "time" SubGenius: Did you have a bad Christmas once? SubGenius: Or is it simply a people density thing? SubGenius: Ever been to a sporting event with 60K people and felt this? Erin / Pamela: understatement.....but that has nothing to do with the claustrophobia........unless I'm suppressing something I don't know about SubGenius: E.g. baseball or football game? Erin / Pamela: people density Erin / Pamela: China is off-limits to me SubGenius: Re: Christmas, sorry to hear :-( Erin / Pamela: it's just life Erin / Pamela: nothing more Erin / Pamela: nothing less Erin / Pamela: <shrug> SubGenius: I guess avoid big political conventions then, too... SubGenius: High raving politician density. Erin / Pamela: sometimes yes...usually I stay at the back of the room (more so to sneak out :-)) Erin / Pamela: A lot of the time I'm fine SubGenius: Someday you may have to give a keynote address or something...or take an oath of office, Mme. PM. Erin / Pamela: but I do notice it there Erin / Pamela: oh G no Erin / Pamela: no public office for me thank you SubGenius: Your first act can be to reduce the size of conventions :-) Erin / Pamela: actually thinking of looking into finding a career aptitude thingy SubGenius: What you're doing now isn't your aptitude? Erin / Pamela: I don't think so, but I don't know.....there's a lot of careers out there that no one even knows about.....I've been hearing about some and they have piqued my interest SubGenius: You could be a lion tamer...or a chartered accountant (Monty Python ref) Erin / Pamela: lol SubGenius: But you aren't dull enough for the latter. Erin / Pamela: thought about CA in highschool -- hate numbers SubGenius: What has piqued your interest? Erin / Pamela: I enjoy my job well enough....but I think I am meant for something greater, well, at least greater to me SubGenius: Well, if you can find it, and still get paid for it...that is great. Erin / Pamela: that's the key Erin / Pamela: my other options are: marry rich or win the lottery SubGenius: Any sugar daddies in your office? SubGenius: Lotteries are not very likely... Erin / Pamela: naaa...the boss is single but...naaa SubGenius: I can't see Erin on the make for a meal ticket...right Pam? Erin / Pamela: lottery seems to be my best bet Erin / Pamela: she's not listening Erin / Pamela: now she is SubGenius: What was she doing? Erin / Pamela: fiddling with a tape Erin / Pamela: cueing "New Math" by Tom Lehrer SubGenius: I hope you have higher hopes than the lottery... Erin / Pamela: well of course SubGenius: Because I counted in base 3, right? Erin / Pamela: <P> yes Erin / Pamela: <P> do you know the song? SubGenius: He counts in base what, 8? Erin / Pamela: <P> base 12 I think SubGenius: I couldn't remember. Erin / Pamela: I'm lost SubGenius: Find Lake Erie. That is south. To your left is east. Everything else follows from that. And, don't try to walk on the water. Erin / Pamela: I'm listening to the tape SubGenius: Ahhh...he does go through it fast. Erin / Pamela: frustrating SubGenius: Look up the lyrics somewhere, it will help to see them written down. Erin / Pamela: i don't understand why they are laughing SubGenius: You didn't have to learn New Math...they (and I) did :-) Erin / Pamela: <P> it is base 8 Erin / Pamela: TG Erin / Pamela: I was screwed enough with "normal" math SubGenius: Certain computers of that era counted in base 8, instead of base 16 like they do now. Erin / Pamela: I always understood the big picture but not the simple stuff Erin / Pamela: that's what my teacher said anyway SubGenius: Don't sell yourself short...a good teacher could fix that. Erin / Pamela: math is not my forte Erin / Pamela: I'm a philosopher SubGenius: It can be your pianissimo :-) Erin / Pamela: hehe Erin / Pamela: philosopher, dreamer... SubGenius: "E pluribus faecum", that describes things in this country pretty well...hope yours is better... Erin / Pamela: translation? SubGenius: US motto is "E pluribus unum" = "out of many, one". Substitute "faecum"...I think you recognize the root... Erin / Pamela: sorry, dense SubGenius: Must be the hour...or the lateness thereof. SubGenius: Proclaim bedtime throughout the land, unto all the inhabitants thereof... Erin / Pamela: or the fact I never learned latin SubGenius: My 2.5 hours of sleep is running out, alas and alackaday... SubGenius: I never took it as a class, but I picked up lots of roots and endings. Erin / Pamela: it is beddy bye time though SubGenius: Pam can sleep in, right? <pout> Erin / Pamela: yeaaaaaaaahhh <double pout> Erin / Pamela: :-) Erin / Pamela: well, get some sleep Rich SubGenius: Well...then how about we close this down before Pam throws you out on your ear. Erin / Pamela: hopefully you're feeling a little more upbeat SubGenius: I will try....zzzzz. SubGenius: Yeah, would be nice. SubGenius: Better now than before. Erin / Pamela: <hugs> Erin / Pamela: that's good SubGenius: Sorry for crabiness. Erin / Pamela: :-) Erin / Pamela: not at all SubGenius: <hugs to all? Erin / Pamela: :-) SubGenius: all> Erin / Pamela: hehe Erin / Pamela: sleep well SubGenius: Typos now, brain is going. SubGenius: Good night Erin and Pam, Pam and Erin, etc. Erin / Pamela: nighty nite SubGenius: <poof> Erin / Pamela: colour of gone
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