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changed username to Eric Harvie: Hi rich Harvie: Hello Eric Eric: I'm Eric from alabama Eric: hello Harvie rich-c: greetings to our simultaneous arrivals! Harvie: Hi, back again I see rich-c: how's life going today? Harvie: A little chilly, I was working outside rich-c: we didnt go outside except for our weekly shopping - not too bad with limited exposure Eric: getting cool here 50' rich-c: but we apparently have a cold front coming through tomorrow
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changed username to Erin rich-c: we've had our first had frost, Eric - about -5C or 22F Eric: brrrrrr. Erin: good evening gentleman Harvie: Hello Erin rich-c: hello, Rin, see you're yourself tonight ;-) Eric: hello Erin: I am...couldn't think of anything catchy that I haven't already done :-) rich-c: had to give your sister-in-law a small slap on the wrist today Erin: oh? rich-c: she sent me a hoax xhain letter - I sent her a link to the full story Erin: ahhhh I see rich-c: I don't thinbk she'll get taken in again, at leasst if she listens Erin: that's true rich-c: by now I have a whole list of bookmarks in my "debunker" file rich-c: deal with virus aleerts, real and phoney, urban legends, the lot Erin: well that's good rich-c: there is so much dangerous stuff out there on teh 'net you need to know how to cover yourself rich-c: it can be dangerous even to send someone one of those electronic greeting cards Erin: not surprising though well meaning rich-c: do it with some sites and their email addresses will become so spam laden they have to give them up rich-c: they have great privacy policies - for you rich-c: they don't say what they are going to do with your friend's address Erin: that's true rich-c: I've managed now to convince my brother and nephew in Florida that they're Not A Good Idea rich-c: but when we got back from holiday late October I had to delete 967 spams Erin: oh wow rich-c: and we'd been home and cleaned things out two weeks earlier Erin: that's ridiculous rich-c: I think it's criminal - but how do you stop them? Harvie: I get about 150 spams a ady Harvie: day Eric: about 50 rich-c: yes, and that's after Tamco's filtering, right? Harvie: Tamco does not filter Erin: I only get about 3-8 rich-c: I'd say my daily total runs 75 to 100 Erin: but I'm not doing as much as you gents rich-c: Rin, you shouldn't get any, your address is too new rich-c: or did you fill in a form somewhere or take up an offer?
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: hi daughteer Harvie: Hello Pam Erin: I meant my hotmail acct Pamela: hallo Erin: hi Pam Pamela: no alias tonite, cousin? Erin: nope...just being me rich-c: oh, on hotmail everyone gets spam - I think they send blind to likely names Erin: 'cause I ain't so bad :-) Pamela: no argument there : ) Erin: yeah that's why I am surprised at how few I get Pamela: Hi Dad Pamela: Hi Harvie, Hi Eric rich-c: hi Pam, how's it going? Pamela: busy Eric: hi pam rich-c: figures, I guess rich-c: what are you two doing for Russell's birthday? Pamela: I dunno, haven't thought that far ahead - besides, he's working rich-c: your mother was asking since it's only five days away Pamela: well he goes back on midnights tomorrow night till next Thursday at 8:00 am, so we can't do anything about it till next weekend anyway Pamela: but I will keep you posted rich-c: OK, I have some stuff to passa onto you rich-c: you know those business cards that are really CDs? Pamela: yeah rich-c: well, I have a set of four that have Harry Potter stuff on them Pamela: have you looked at them? rich-c: for some reason my DVD player doesn't like teh format rich-c: and my CD player is still hors de combat Pamela: still? rich-c: Star has a story today on the Mississauga train crash 25 tears ago - like us to keep it for you? rich-c: haven't had time to uninstall and reinstall everything to get it working again Pamela: sure - but don't quiz me anytime soon - still haven't read the article on Hurricane Hazel : )
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: hello hello Pamela: hello Daniel rich-c: I've got a companion article to that for you too - also Hub Erin: hi Daniel rich-c: salut, Daniel Harvie: Hello Daniel Eric: hello Daniel rich-c: what is doing in Quebec City tonight? Pamela: okay. I have an appointment with the podiatrist on Saturday morning - maybe I'll drop by for a short time afterwards, before I have to meet Russell rich-c: sounds reasonable - expect we'll be here Daniel Bienvenu: Well, tonight it's cold and dark (as dark a city can be) . Pamela: will be around noon, by which time I hope you'll be up and about : ) rich-c: they just brought ion the backhoe next door so life will be noisy Pamela: you can tell me more then rich-c: did you see the aurora borealis, Daniel? Daniel Bienvenu: no sorry, I don't see aurora rich-c: we missed it too, but there was apparently a very impressive display this week rich-c: I figured with less light pollution and more northern location, you would have had a good show Harvie: I was in Aurora today , no Borealis though Pamela: any snow Harvie? : ) Harvie: No rich-c: oh, I get nosebleeds north of Rich ond Hill, Harv ;-) Daniel Bienvenu: this week, we had snow.. but it did stay long. Pamela: well Dad, I guess that means no more trips to the trailer then rich-c: same here - we have had teh odd flurry but it hasn't lasted Daniel Bienvenu: the snow didn't stay more than a couple of hours rich-c: well, our trailer is winteized and parked Pamela: so you only get nosebleeds in the winter? : ) Pamela: and speaking of which, when did you take the trailer back? rich-c: over teh weekend - going up was no problem rich-c: but coming back with teh construction on the DVP and 401, we came home through teh city Pamela: oh, good Pamela: I don't blame you rich-c: came across Finch, down Don Mills RD, across Lawrence rich-c: so got a look at the new additions to Don Mills centre and the houses on the Bridle Path Pamela: was out at Katherine's on the weekend rich-c: do you go through teh city or across 401 to get out there? Pamela: 401 or 407 depending on day and time rich-c: it's a pretty long trip - Toronto is a big city Pamela: 41 kms one way Pamela: puts a dent in the gas tank rich-c: for the benefit of Eric - it's a hair bigger than Chicago or Phoenix Eric: thanks rich-c: 41 km is about 25 miles Eric: been to kinston ont. before rich-c: what brought you up there, Eric? Eric: work I carpet mill shut down and we removed the machines Eric: A rich-c: gee - I didn't even know there was a carpet mill in Kingston Eric: not since about early 90's rich-c: we are missing Bob and Dr. D. tonight - wonder what's up? Pamela: dunno - no message from them Pamela: and I checked just before coming here rich-c: Kingston has changed much - its main business is Queens University and Royal Military college
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changed username to Dr.D. Pamela: speak of the devil Daniel Bienvenu: hello Dr.D Pamela: Hi Rich rich-c: and a couple of federal pens, not mentioned but the jobs are valued Dr.D.: Hi everyone. Erin: Hi Rich Harvie: Hi Doc Dr.D.: Back from planning out the movie schedule for Science Fiction Marathon XXX. Pamela: we were just wondering where you were rich-c: Rich, before I forget - make a note of www.robotgames.ca Dr.D.: 30 years of SF marathons at CWRU. Dr.D.: 6 PM meeting. Dr.D.: No food served. Dr.D.: Got home after 9 PM, needed to eat. rich-c: what is an SF marathon? Erin: well that wasn't very nice Dr.D.: Science Fiction. Dr.D.: http://films.cwru.edu/ rich-c: yes, but what is it? a reading match? trivia quiz? rich-c: ah, flix Harvie: Triple x rated? :) Dr.D.: CINEMA, KINO, FILM. rich-c: anyway, the Ontario Science Centre is having a big robot fest this weekend Dr.D.: Roman Numeral Thirty, Harvie. rich-c: aaaparently lots on teh net - try that url for info Harvie: D'oh Dr.D.: okay Richard Dr.D.: If they have a robot that will teach gross anatomy, I'll hire it as an assistant. rich-c: who knows, next year some of your (former) students may want to enter Pamela: well folks, hate to come and go so fast but I'm exhausted so am signing off. Will see you all next week. Dr.D.: Not sure about former students, but current ones in anatomy are all keen to sign up for my physiology course next semester. rich-c: take care, Pam Eric: I always wanted a hero robot from heath kit Dr.D.: Bye Pam. Erin: bye Pammie Harvie: GoodBye Pam Dr.D.: You can still find them, Eric, but they are pricey. Pamela: night everyone Daniel Bienvenu: bye Pam Pamela: kerpoof
Pamela left chat session Eric: night pam rich-c: you mean Heathkit is still around, or are they collectibles now? Dr.D.: Collectibles. Eric: collectibles ebay$$$ Dr.D.: Though someone might make a Hero kit. rich-c: fodder for eBay 8-) Dr.D.: My colleague at Wright State in Dayton has one. rich-c: there's a Wright tate college? that's new to me Dr.D.: Wright State University, Dayton, Ohio. Dr.D.: Home of the Wright Brothers. Dr.D.: Has been for at least 50 years... rich-c: full university - they offer graduate degrees, then Dr.D.: Yes indeed. Dr.D.: Up through Ph.D. rich-c: they must be small - I can't recall ever hearing the name rich-c: and I've been to Dayton to see the Air Museum Daniel Bienvenu: Coleco Question: In the OS-7, there are many routines for graphics named objects (can be characters, sprites and even mix of characters and sprites). In the OS-7 lisiting, I find the sprites object data format, but I'm looking for the other object formats. Dr.D.: It's still there and still impressive. rich-c: the Museum or Wright State? Dr.D.: The museum. rich-c: well, the Air Force has lots of money Dr.D.: My recollection of the listing Daniel is that it documents the object format, simple, complex, etc. Dr.D.: I don't have it at hand, though. Harvie: brb Daniel Bienvenu: ok Dr.D.: I do remember that ACTIVATE has a bug for complex type objects, a fatal one. Daniel Bienvenu: a fatal bug? Dr.D.: Yes, it doesn't work. Daniel Bienvenu: i didn't see it Dr.D.: It was documented in a problem report, Coleco internal document. Dr.D.: Just like PUTVRAM and GETVRAM have bugs that they don't work for more than 255 bytes. rich-c: Rich, I referred Joe Blenkle to you for Adamlink 55 - heard from him yet? Dr.D.: I saw his post to the list, not sure I got anything from him personally. Dr.D.: He should ask Herman or George, they are still selling it. rich-c: I think I suggeste4d you, later mentioned Herman Dr.D.: My stuff is quite packed away... rich-c: OK, I sent him their url Daniel Bienvenu: Well, I suppose I will have to wait for your coleco information to update my own documentation. rich-c: maybe eric will know something about it? Dr.D.: The EOS version of PUTVRAM and GETVRAM fix the bug. Dr.D.: But nothing fixed ACTIVATE, it was in ROM. Dr.D.: And they never released an updated ColecoVision console with new ROMs to fix it. Daniel Bienvenu: But I don't have the EOS VRAM routines in the Adam tech doc. Dr.D.: They are in the EOS commented assembly listing on the ATM site, Daniel. Daniel Bienvenu: ho the site, ok Eric: sorry, I havent even mastered smartbasic yet Dr.D.: I think GETVRAM and PUTVRAM are the first 2 routines. Dr.D.: No problem, Eric. rich-c: strictly a hardware man, are you, Eric? Eric: yea thats it Dr.D.: hardware is good. Dr.D.: Sigh, I am still hungry... rich-c: oddly enough, despite my vast fund of ignorance where computers I concerned, I can almost follow this discussion Dr.D.: I am going to adjourn to eat some more supper. Dr.D.: My day started at 5:30 today... Erin: see you later Rich rich-c: hey, bring it to the keyboard - that's what I do with my beer Dr.D.: So I think I will follow Pam and bow out for tonight. Dr.D.: Sticky fingers not good for laptop. rich-c: OK - remember to check that URL Dr.D.: I wrote it down, Richard. Harvie: Goodnight Doc Dr.D.: Good night all, happy chatting...the logfile will appear tomorrow (at least it has so far, Dale's bot is good) rich-c: take it easy then - nite, Rich Dr.D.: <poof>
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(rich/c gives rich-c a nice tall frosty Guinness) Eric: Milwaukees Best here Harvie: A "Shotz" ? :) rich/c: well, with Milwaukee's best, the price is right Eric: how much is a pack of cigarettes in canada now? rich/c: don't know - a carton is about $58 rich/c: the 7-11 was advertising that price today
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changed username to BobS Harvie: Hello Bobbo rich/c: but I've been unable to smoke since my bout of pneumonia about two years ago or moe BobS: hello guys rich/c: greetings, Robert, where you been? BobS: smokin BAD for ya anyway, yes ???? BobS: was out for dinner w/ Doug & Meeka; then had to fix Mandy's car lights, then LAX was on so we stayed @ Doug's......then bs'ing
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changed username to rich+c rich+c: dropped again!! rich+c: it's all your doing, Bob Guy B.: Light crowd tonight rich+c: or maybe I can blame it on Guy? Guy B.: You got dumped again, eh! rich+c: you came so late half them have gone home, Guy BobS: ok si I take responsiblity BobS: WHAT ???? who was here???? BobS: and we BOTH feel badly rich+c: Pam and Dr. D. had to log out early Guy B.: Shucks, I wanted to tell Pam something. rich+c: and we seem to have lost Erin, too BobS: aw bummer dudes rich+c: send her an email, Guy Guy B.: I have her address. rich+c: she's not teh best at picking them up but does eventually Harvie: Guy, what is your site url? BobS: BUT Fuy....beware of that woman's jeaolous husband !!!!! BobS: well anyway, you knolw who youare Guy B.: www.geocities.com/bonag_3 Harvie: Thanks
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Guy B. confirmed ban Guy B.: Well, that looks better. BobS: ahso !!!!! the equal rights guy Harvie: Only one left , get it while it's hot :) rich=c: that's why I change the connector each time - I know which are teh dups for deletion rich=c: yeah, judging by the way things are going tonight, if Ron comes I'll be bounced again 8-( Guy B.: Anyway, looks like Jeanene will be getting a new computer. This one will have to have USB ports. So, we are going to look for one at the next computer show. The Gateway I gave her is going to the scrapheap. BobS: what did she do Guy ???? not treat the Gateway nice ????? rich=c: what's the CPU on teh Gateway, Guy? Guy B.: Keeps hitting a certain key and the whole display goes blank. So, the computer has to be rebooted. There is a bad board that is causing this. Guy B.: P166 rich=c: Frances is happily using our P166 laptop at the moment BobS: and like why is she not on ?????? rich=c: well, if the board is toasst, repair is not economic on a P166 rich=c: as a desktop in top shape it might bring $39.95 if you're lucky rich=c: she's using it to browse one of her BBSs Guy B.: Well, I going to get the Gateway back, take everything out and scrap it. The hard drive is fine and it has Win98 and Office 2000 Pro on it. If I put this hard drive into another computer. Will it work? rich=c: a hard drive is a hard drive - but is it big enough for these days? BobS: should work....will update itself witht he new cpu settings Guy B.: If any new hardware is detected then I can just install the drivers in that then. rich=c: yes, I can see Win98 getting a little confused in its new home Harvie: Win 98 will try to reconfigure to the new hardware ( be prepared to "insert win98 disc" several times and reboot 20 times rich=c: but any drive 10 gig or over should do fine Eric: just buy a new mobo and cpu and install in the old case rich=c: will the power supply be up to it, Eric? BobS: trouble is eric.......if guy gets fasta board, he will need a new p.s as well Guy B.: It should be easy removing the old ones from the system list. I have the CD-Rom, so I'll give it a whirl then. rich=c: my old P166 desktop only had about 180 watts available Eric: just dont get anything too fancy Harvie: New Mobo will need new Ram, new Video card Eric: new psu said rich Guy B.: I wish I could to that, even though the case is an ATX. Most of the Mobo's have network ports and this case doesn't have the room for one or for a game port. BobS: chop a new hole in the back !!!! rich=c: given how cheap a new up to date computer is these days, fooling about doesn't pay BobS: you gotta be inventive my son Guy B.: Easy for you to say. rich=c: Dell are advertising a barebones desktop for $349 Canadian delivered Guy B.: I can get a barebones too and I have built two of them this way. Guy B.: The Athlon and P133 are the ones I did. rich=c: exactly - and given how cheap they are, why fight it? rich=c: I didn't do it myself but my Athlon is a white box to my specs Guy B.: The show is next Sunday. So, I'll check around and see what we need. rich=c: now I can get a laptop equally or better equipped with 15" screen for $1000 here rich=c: if teh show has used as well, you shoiuld get something excellent Guy B.: My Compaq is worth $49 according to what HP gave me. rich=c: especially if you don't care about an OS, CR or hard disc Eric: CRT? rich=c: yeah, but your Compaq is what? a 486 with a 12" screen? rich=c: no, Eric, LCD rich=c: same screen area as the CRT on my Athlon rich=c: actually, I'm just waiting for my CRT to die so I'll have an excuse to buy an LCD to go with it too Daniel Bienvenu: good job guy B Guy B.: I found out it's PII 266. Thought it was a P266. Daniel Bienvenu: I saw your web site update :-) rich=c: no, early P1s didn't go beyond 166 if I recall Guy B.: Thanks Daniel. Look for a special page sometime later in January. Daniel Bienvenu: ok :) Guy B.: I'll make an annoucement by then. rich=c: plotting something, are you, Guy? Guy B.: Thought so Rich. So, I have two Pentium II's. The Compaq and the Dell. Guy B.: I think you will know what it will be Rich. So, I'll keep you in suspense till then. rich=c: a PII 266 should be worht a bit over $50, Guy, even in US dollars - a bit, not much Harvie: Well, I gotta go nod off, Goodnight gentlemen Eric: goodnight rich=c: OK Harvie, take care and stay warm in teh cold Guy B.: Bye Harvie Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight harvie
Harvie left chat session Guy B.: Originally, the Compaq came with 32mb of ram. I have 96mb of ram in it. rich=c: btw, before any more go - I expect to get teh Saturday chats going this weekend BobS: nite Harvie Daniel Bienvenu: sorry Rich, I can't be online this saturday BobS: oops gone !!!!! Guy B.: I'll see if I can make it. rich=c: yep, the divisional finals are both on Sunday, same for teh Grey Cup BobS: heck I can stop by IF I can remember !! Eric: Its at 3.00pm right rich=c: I know the problem - Frances often has to remind me BobS: seems like I get busy with whatever adn then it is 4 or 5pm and oh oh rich=c: you are right, eric Guy B.: 2:00 central time for me. rich=c: if I recall you're still in the Eastern time zone, right, Eric? BobS: roight mate Eric: centals Eric: central rich=c: Central? then 2 p.m. for you Eric: thanks
Eric left chat session rich=c: Guy, do you have any disc management program like Partition Magic? BobS: and THAT will be THAT Guy B.: No, but I have System Commander Deluxe that I believe has that feature. rich=c: yes - if I recall from my copy of SC, it also allows you to image one disc onto another (or partition of another) rich=c: so if Jeanine's new computer has a big disc, you can bolt in the old one and copy it over Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit tout le monde!bonne nuit tout le monde! Guy B.: V-Com has dropped support of System Commander Deluxe and are advising to upgrade to the newest version. Guy B.: Bye Daniel rich=c: bonsoir, Daniel - dormez bien! BobS: bye Daniel Guy B.: I have Data Lifeguard that will do the same thing. So, that should work. rich=c: yes, at a suitably extortionate markup - they've learned from Microsoft rich=c: there are even freebie programs that will do it, but they are rather more geeky Guy B.: I like the Data Lifeguard tools that Western Digital included when I bought the 40gb drive last year. It was really easy to use. Guy B.: It will work with non Western Digital drives. rich=c: I think I have a WD hard disc - wonder if I have it? rich=c: if not, can I download it from their website? Guy B.: I have two of them on the Athlon. 13gb and the 40gb. Guy B.: Yes, it is available to download. rich=c: let me check what I have - brb Guy B.: We lost Rich again. BobS: figures......he gets lost alot
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changed username to rich-c Guy B.: Anyway, Abby is doing fine. She's on some new medication for her leg. But, we are walking again. Your Back Rich. rich-c: ok, my bad this time - I goofed rich-c: anyway, I checked and my hard disc is a Maxtor - no joy rich-c: maybe I should check their website, though - they may be matching the competition on tools Guy B.: Boy, I remember 4 years ago when my old 850mb hard drive went out on the P133 and that was a Western Digital. I worked on that for a week when I finally got that back up.
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-c: you were lucky to get it back up - hard discs are not easy to resuscitate Guy B.: Had to get a new HD. And it's still going fine. 4.3gb Western Digital. rich-c: now that I have teh DVD burner backups are easy - teh software comes with the burner rich-c: so idiot-resistant even I can handle it Guy B.: I bought a new one of those all in one printer, scanner and copier. It's a HP and it was on sale at K-Mart for $99 rich-c: unfortunately I now have my drivers so mixed up my CD-RW won't work rich-c: yes, they're incredibly cheap these days, aren't they? BobS: AND they work greqat, I bought one strictly for a copy machine.....and COLOR to boot BobS: stand alone too yet Guy B.: This one has a feature where you can hookup a digital camera that is Picbridge compatible and print without using the computer. BobS: well kids, time to blow this pop stand for tonight rich-c: I actually have a little program that makes my printer act as a copier, but's it on command from the computer rich-c: I think you're right, Bob - hope to see you Saturday BobS: so BE GOOD, have FUN, and don't let the politicians GET YOU DOWN
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