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changed username to Harvie Harvie: Hi rich rich-c: hello Harvie, as usual you're among the earliest rich-c: how are things going with you today? Harvie: Probably coincidence rather than good planning :) Harvie: Not bad, was on my feet too much rich-c: well, a little clock watching is helpful rich-c: but of a stand and bend job? Harvie: More of "stand around and argue with engineers" rich-c: oh, one of those - whre elegant theory runs on teh rocks pf necessary practice ; - ) Harvie: Yes, the engineers handbook states that just because we designed it wrong you won't get paid to rebuild it properly rich-c: right - I get your meaning rich-c: at least teh weather has been better for outside - or unsheltered -work of late Harvie: Yes, can this heat wave last? rich-c: good question, actually - Jan 21st to Feb. 7th historically is teh coldest period of the year rich-c: but climate is one thing, weather is another Harvie: Sorry rich, the telephone rang (ironically someone selling storm windows) rich-c: check rich-c: the funny part is that storm windows apparently are better insulators than all these new triple-pane windows and such Harvie: Actually it was new windows he was selling rich-c: but I have a way with telephone solicitors - they'll quit rather than have to talk to me again Harvie: They grow new ones every day rich-c: I wotk on the theory that teh phone if for my convenience, not theirs rich-c: oh yes, but if you can make their experience negative enough, they quit Harvie: Wonder where the others (except Slopsemas) are?
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: well, Rich sent an email around saying he wouldn't be on - workload
changed username to jeffc rich-c: but Daniel and james and Ron and Pam and Erin and Guy (well, he;s usually late) - I dunno Harvie: Hello jeffc jeffc: hi all rich-c: hey jeff, glad to see you rich-c: hoiw's life over Chicago way? jeffc: busy with the baby jeffc: holding her now and typing with 1 hand rich-c: yes, kids can be quite a challenge - one of Pam's friends was over here with her new baby on Sunday rich-c: about four months, seriously cute jeffc: lorena is 4 months also rich-c: bet she's a real doll, too - you got a picture on your website? jeffc: yes, pics area bit old though rich-c: 'fraid my "baby" wil be looking at teh big 4-0 in a few months jeffc: brb rich-c: yes, kids require attention - amazing how effectively they can squirm even at that age Harvie: Sorry folks, gotta go, furnace acting up rich-c: maybe we should start another inventory of the missing and see how many more turn up ; - ) rich-c: OK Harvie, take care
Harvie left chat session rich-c: catch you next week jeffc: okay babies in bed, rich still there? rich-c: oh yes I'm stillhere rich-c: how's your weather there? sharing our "heat wave"? jeffc: got some great pics of a unreleased modem from a guy named Howard for my tribute site jeffc: he was an engineer at Coleco rich-c: really? Howard who? jeffc: well tommorrow will be 40, if you consider that warm :) rich-c: ah - I assume then it was something he was working on when Coleco folded jeffc: not sure, never gave me a last name. I will ask him next email rich-c: in February anything over freezing is a heat wave
moved to room Meeting Place jeffc: no, they just went the cheaper route with the 300 baud expansion slot version
changed username to Pamela rich-c: OK, how did he find you? rich-c: hi daughter Pamela: wow, where is everyone? Pamela: Hi, Dad jeffc: thru the mailing list, did you see my email about my Coleco ADAM tribute page project rich-c: Harvie's furnace went wonky so he had to leave rich-c: the Slopsemas ARE ON A CRUISE Pamela: (Pamela turns pea green) rich-c: and Dr,D sent round an email saying not tonite - where is Rin? Pamela: dunno, haven't talked to her tonite rich-c: oh yes, I saw it - but I gave almost all my newsletter collection to Dr. D. last year for his archice Pamela: and we're missing Ron, James, and Guy too rich-c: well, th0se three are more likely to come in lateer jeffc: I know I am trying to talk him into giving or borrowing them to me so I can scan them rich-c: and Daniel is somewhat unpredictable Pamela: True. Well, I think I'll go find something to do for half an hour and come back. rich-c: you'd better plan on a sma;l; quantity at any given time for workload control Pamela: I'll leave you two to talk computers at your leisure rich-c: also because we do not want huge files going missing in the mail jeffc: rich, did you have more newsletters than the Nibbles & Bits? rich-c: oh hang in daughter, at least we have a "new" face Pamela: I know,and welcome, Jeff jeffc: Hi Pam rich-c: yes - enough to fill two "bankers boxes" with some left over Pamela: but I have stuff I can be doing so i'll come back Pamela: see you at 10:00 rich-c: just as I have a file drawer full of old Adam supplier catalogures Pamela: kerpoof jeffc: What were the others - Sprite Chaser, ADAM Garden, ECM>
Pamela left chat session rich-c: and another full of Colecovision game instructions jeffc: those would be great contributions to the tribute site, got a scanner? jeffc: Whats in the supplier catalogs, any pictures? rich-c: NIAD, Adams House, 463 Adam, MTAG, AUFG, dozens of others rich-c: no - remember these guys wre awful small time operators with a minuscule market jeffc: I think Dr. D;s plans are to scan them and archive them online for all, but I think he just does not have the time rich-c: some, like Reedy, had fuller product lines and descriptions, but that's it jeffc: I remember Reedy and Digital Express rich-c: exactly - if I had teh time I would have done it long ago, but I haven't jeffc: M.W Ruth comes to mind as well rich-c: Digital Express was Sol Swift rich-c: yes, I think I have a Ruth catalogue jeffc: Just got a new scanner - Canon 9950F supposed to be very good
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changed username to james jeffc: Hi James james: wow.. big crowd here today james: and i thought i was late :P james: hi jeff, hi rich rich-c: mine is a Plustek Optic Pro - seems decent but rather slow rich-c: good morning, james james: would be better without the 45" of snow we got jeffc: so james what time is it over there? rich-c: you folks didn't get the tsunami, did you? james: nope, we got somewhere on the order of 80cm of snow rich-c: nearly four feet of snow? so that's where ours went, jeff ; - ) rich-c: and james, Harvie and Pam have been in and gone, Pam will be back james: 79 of which i consider rather superfluous to my needs rich-c: oh, 80 cm - more than enough, but "onl.y" about 32 inches (brrr) james: i'm not sure how long i can stay on, but if i miss pam, can you tell her thanks again for her help two weeks ago james: and sorry about not being around last week? jeffc: we had 7 inches here a week ago, but that will probably all melt tommorrow rich-c: OK, she said she would be back at 10 james: ok so another.. 15 minutes or so james: should still be here rich-c: how is your planning going, by the way?
moved to room Meeting Place james: just about done. i've got edmonton figured out. contacted my travel agent. will proceed with the rest of the planning
changed username to Ronald james: once i know if we can leave directly out of edmonton or if we have to go back to calgary and fly out from there rich-c: how are you going to handle the Toronto transfer? Ronald: Yo! rich-c: hello Ron james: from what i've read, the greyhound station in edmonton is two blocks from the west edmonton mall james: hi ron james: @rich, got it all written down ;) james: and i'm going to leave it at that Ronald: Hi all jeffc: Hi Ron rich-c: just wondering which of several options you fond most attractive Ronald: Everybody well? james: we're goign to take the subway up to some stop and then just take the #58 which puts us within about a 5 minute walking distance to our hotel jeffc: finally feeling better after a 3.5 week bought with a chest cold james: it's actually fairly straightforward james: 3.5 weeks.. holy crap rich-c: yes, the Slopsemas are cruising, Dr. D. has homework, Pam wil return, Harvie has a furnace problem, don't know about Daniel or Erin Ronald: not good james: doing well, ron. you? jeffc: I know, I was on steroids to stop the cough, unfortunately I did not bulk up like I wanted :) Ronald: got one eye open james: the power was out here yesterday for 1 1/2 hours in the morning. we have no central heating so the entire house was about 4c james: lol rich-c: yes, we have electric heat too and know the problem james: houses here are built like such crap rich-c: anyway Ron I go to the cardiologist Monday so will see what he says james: it's amazing anyone gets a house paid off before it completely falls apart. no insulation, crappy single paned leaky windows jeffc: so are dishwashers, got find a repairman for ours rich-c: well, they're meant to be expendable in earthquakes james: canadian or not, i'm tired of living in a walk-in fridge four months out of the year rich-c: I've heard dishwaashers need a lot of attention, jeff
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changed username to Scott Scott: Surprise! james: my dishwasher works really well, but sometimes she gets moody :P Ronald: hey! jeffc: LOL rich-c: hi Scott, where's my disc drive? Scott: Wasn't sure you were still doing the Wednesday chat Ronald: we are indeed Scott: Oh yes, the disc drive. rich-c: you should know we never give up Ronald: we're here because we're not all there jeffc: scott just saw your new updated site, its awesome james: hey.. it's thursday morning and don't you forget it Scott: Rich - I will make an effort to find it this weekend Ronald: half our later in Newfoundland rich-c: and can you hijack some of your old man's schematics for jeff's Adam tribute site? james: arright, i need to go to the school to check my fax and bring some documents over and i'll likely have to shovel my way in james: hopefully it's not snowing so hard that i have to shovel my way back out too.. jeffc: you are Scott of Adam Resource, correct? Scott: I know that I have it, just go to look in my storage Ronald: James, do I detect a certain amount of resentment? Scott: Yes, unfortunately I'm that Scott james: (ron - we're up to 80cm or so over the last couple days) Scott: Of the ADAM Resource Ronald: oh my jeffc: I want to make my tribute site more picture visual oriented
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changed username to Daniel B jeffc: I think Scotts got the info part covered on his site, that an understatement :) rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - tu es en retar Scott: I haven't updated the old site in awhile james: methinks it's time to buy a snowblower or coerce someone into doing it :P bbs Daniel B: bonsoir Rich! je sais... désolé Scott: But I am working on an entire new Coleco ADAM site jeffc: Scott, did you ever scan more of the newletters you have? Ronald: Daniel Hi! rich-c: porquois? Daniel B: Hi Ron! jeffc: Also the ASG would be great to see completed online Scott: I need it for my portfolio so I can look for a new job (later on down the road) Daniel B: pourquoi je suis désolé? j'avais complètement oublié le chat de ce soir. Scott: My scanner isn't working, so I haven't done anything lately rich-c: yes, Scott, you have the masters of teh ASG, don't you? Scott: I thought I had a pair of copies that you had sent, but it's possible one is an original rich-c: hey, that's my Saturday trick, Daniel - as you've noticed ; - ) Ronald: deux minutes pour avior oublie Daniel jeffc: Well, Scott if you need any help scanning stuff let me know, just got a new Canon 9950F rich-c: very very dark one is the original - it will take a special scanning technique rich-c: it's not teh scanning per se, jeff, it's the editing after Scott: Special scanning technique = as in better off typing it in by hand :) rich-c: now, now, Scott, let's not be getting cynical (synonym for realistic) jeffc: I have some pretty top notch OCR software, but not sure how it works in real practive rich-c: the smaller teh print the tougher teh chore - and the ASG print is small Scott: Sounds good. Should I send you a copy, Jeff jeffc: Abby Finereader is the OCR soft I have Scott: I've done some of the ASG, but it's gigantic. And not very easy to OCR. jeffc: Sure Scott, reply to my tribute email that I sent to the ColAdam mailing list jeffc: I can then give you my address Ronald: Been my experience that some of our old newsletters don't OCR too well Scott: Ok. I think I saw that. rich-c: I have Textbridge but there's no way I'd try the ASG on that Scott: I was using OmniPage 11. That was ok for most stuff. Scott: I am in the process of developing a PHP driven site for the ADAM Resource. Scott: I will be changing the name and focusing on specific content. rich-c: probably too you'd have to send the files as TIFFs - jpegs aren't good on small print jeffc: PHP, this is something I want to learn Ronald: TIFF files are large Scott: PHP's good stuff. jeffc: What type of content is your focus, don't want to reinvent the wheel rich-c: humungous, Ron - remember the dialup days? Ronald: yeah Scott: I'm using PHP with MySQL at work Scott: ColecoVision and OS-7 Game Development jeffc: GIF is best for text rich-c: yes, my automotive chat site is the learning tool of teh webmaster Ronald: very difficult to say these days Jeff. I have no focus around here at all - 4 Mac's a Duron, and an eMac, as well as 5 ADAMs rich-c: he wants to learn php nad mySQL and that's how he's doing it Ronald: seldom sit down to the same machine twice Scott: Also need to convert some VB programs to Java Scott: These are development tools for ColecoVision games jeffc: I am also working on a DVD Organizer program in Delphi 7, but I want to creat on online part with PHP/MySQL rich-c: if it ever matters, Scott, I have instruction sets for many Colkecovision games rich-c: some are original, many more enlarged photocopies Scott: Instruction sets? What exactly do you mean? Scott: Ohh -- as in game instructions. rich-c: the documentation for teh various games Scott: Gotcha! :) jeffc: I have a few game manuals, wanted to scan those and put them on the site as well Scott: I was thinking of assembly dumps -- mind elsewhere! rich-c: but you'll have to get teh docs for Daniel's from Daniel 8 - ) Scott: I came across a web site that had all of the ColecoVision instruction manuals, so the content's already out there. rich-c: and that implies a larger and better collection than mine, then Scott: How are things, Daniel? jeffc: really, I searched pretty hard an only found one with a few jeffc: Scott, whats that site? Scott: I found a site that had 50-100. Will need to relocate it again. jeffc: Was it named something like "Moby.." Scott: Don't remember. rich-c: you should at least have bookmarked it and established a link, Scott Ronald: forget to to that Scott: Maybe I did bookmark it. But on which computer? Which browser? jeffc: this is the one I am thinking of: http://colecovision.mobygames.com/home rich-c: especially when you're all wrapped up in the excitement of the hunt Ronald: you got the same problem I have Scott Scott: So doing any game development these days Daniel? jeffc: this Moby site has 76 cover art scans and over 400 screenshots for Coleco games Daniel B: Ok! How are things, daniel means anythings including my projects? well, I'm planning the return of my dacman game for its 5th anniversary Scott: Wow, did you really program DacMan 5 years ago? Scott: Doesn't seem like that long. rich-c: time really flies these days Scott: The website with all the manuals has it in plain text files. Daniel B: dacman was released in august 2000 during the CGE2K Scott: How many years have you been programming ColecoVision games? 10 years?
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changed username to Pamela Daniel B: I really programmed a coleco game in year 1999 Pamela: well, I see the ranks have swelled rich-c: welcome back, daughter jeffc: So maybe there is no site with scans of the game manuals, like AtariAge does Pamela: thank you Scott: I've been working on and off on ColecoVision games since 1986, but always found myself distracted by something else Scott: Jeff, I'll find that link for you. Could be useful rich-c: well if you are stuck for any individual manual, let me know and maybe I can help Scott: I would like to go ahead and publish some of my code. Ronald: Fundraiser at the door Scott: I OCRed the manual for Tarzan. But it's really time intensive stuff. Don't know I'd want to do that for all ColecoVision games jeffc: Rich, I keep that in mind, thanks for the offer Scott: One idea I had for the new ADAM Resource website is to create a small compiler that can create ROMs in PHP rich-c: why not just slap the thing on the scanner and send the result? It's the information content that counts, not how pretty it is Ronald: has to be readable Rich jeffc: the scans of manuals on AtariAge are quite good, so the coleco ones should be just as scannable like Rich says rich-c: sure, but a typical folder will fit easily size as on a standard page size scanner Scott: I did program a simple 8 X 8 image editor using JavaScript that will give you the line of code you need to include the bit image data in your source code rich-c: my scanner is ancient but it ain't THAT bad Scott: Have you had a chance to play around with PHP, ASP or JSP, Daniel? Scott: And there was silence across the chat room... Pamela: sorry, nothing to contribute, Scott Ronald: have two books on PHP.... I need to open them Ronald: Our community net web site is PHP based Scott: PHP is pretty fun to use and very easy. Ronald: so I hear rich-c: btw, Pam, jeff has a daughter the same age as Jessica Pamela: congrats, Jeff Ronald: I can change (update) data on a website, but beyond that I let our young lads / ladies down at the office do it Scott: Change data, do you mean changing it in the database? Scott: At work we've been building a Nessus web based application for creating reports of our vulnerabilities
Pamela left chat session Ronald: it's been a while since I had to go in there. We have a lot of non -profit organizations with their info placed with us Daniel B: I programmed only one time in php and asp Scott: We're working with thousands of records and a few hundred megabytes of scans james: back james: it's a total white-out now jeffc: Thanks Pam, pretty soon I got to leave an make a bottle, oh the joys of parenthood Ronald: we have a content management system now that allows users to update their own material james: if anyone needs some snow, i have several hundred thousand metric tonnes of it at my immediate disposal Scott: Daniel - what did you think? Pretty powerful stuff, isn't it? Daniel B: All I know came from my knowledge in vbscript and javascript... php and asp are based on these script languages Daniel B: the rest, I only experimented it one time. query to a database with php and mysql jeffc: seems like PHP is the craze for any dynamic sites these days Scott: I am in the process of sucking in all of the op codes for the z80A and making it available for people who need to quickly look up what opcode does what rich-c: Pam has left - she says goodnight to all, and james, you're welcome Scott: At work we're doing some things with object oriented PHP Scott: Belated, but, good night Pam. jeffc: I am thinking of using a PHP based picture gallery like Coppermine for the ADAM tribute site jeffc: sorry guys/gals gotta go attend to my baby Scott: I haven't looked at Coppermine. I am planning to write all of the code myself for the image galleries
(rich-c gives rich-c a nice tall frosty Guinness) rich-c: see you jeff, good to have you come by Ronald: In my humble view, we need a history of ADAM, including all the post-market activity that is still going on (ADAMCONS) jeffc: Scott send me an email and we can chat offline about stuff for my tribute site Scott: You can reach me at sctegordon@aol.com jeffc: Scott, I think there are many open source ones out there, may just want to base it off these jeffc: Got the email scott, thanks. Scott: Your ADAM tribute site sounds interesting. What exactly are you doing? james: back (again) jeffc: Scott, are you on the ColAADAM mailing list? I sen out a detailed email about it few days ago Scott: Yes, but I haven't checked my AOL e-mail in a few days. Scott: I was in the hospital, but all is ok. Daniel B: an interactive z80a opcode list? good idea james: no takers on that surplus of snow, eh? jeffc: see my email, I really detailed things Ronald: ya oughta stay out of hospitals Scott. they're full of sick people james: i hate hospitals Scott: Actually, it goes a little deeper than just the interactive lists of op codes rich-c: sorry, james, we're still dealing with the local supply james: crappy music, boring magazines and nowhere to get a cocktail Ronald: bummer jeffc: BRB, time to feed the baby Scott: Since the data will be in the database, my idea is to be able to do disassemblies online Scott: As well a create ROMs, etc. james: @jeff, wait till they can feed themselves, then the fun begins :D Scott: This is a lot of work, so I will start with the lists first james: @ron, i was able to make a really good change to my schedule for the trip Ronald: @james: yes? Daniel B: ho! an asm compiler? Scott: Yes, an ASM compiler / decompiler online james: well originally we were flying into calgary from tranna, taking the bus to banff, from banff to edmonton and then taking a bus back to calgary to fly out Ronald: ok james: i was able to change our booking so that we just fly directly out of edmonton Scott: I have been doing similar things at work james: so no evening five hour bus ride back to calgary to fly out the next morning Ronald: will save you a trip of about 3-4 hours james: yup Ronald: so are you still looking at Edmonton around the beginning of April? james: and the girls can have the evening at the mall too, since we wouldn't have been doing anything in calgary anyway Scott: I would like to have a cron job render new ROMs every day or so changing their contents. Similar to an online game Scott: But you have to put the new ROMs in your emulator. james: yeah, we were originally only there until 7 p.m. but now we've got all night to party :P Ronald: good Scott: As they become available. Thus the need for an ASM james: let me check the exact date Ronald: I'm thinking of driving over...... Daniel B: how many users will be able to use this online tool, scott? Ronald: will spend a few days with sister Steph james: we get in on the evening of saturday april 2nd Scott: I am also going to convert all of my old articles into XML and throw it in the database. james: and basically do the mall all day on sunday 3rd. please tell me it's open sunday.. didn't even think to check that Scott: Daniel - it will be available for the public. I would like ColecoVision to have as many developers as possible Ronald: ok..... willl plan on that Daniel B: ok, anonymous access then Ronald: oh yes Ronald: Albertans have had Sunday shopping for some time james: major tourist attraction so i can't see it not being open.. Scott: Sure. Anonymous access. You can cut and paste your code in a textbox to be compiled Scott: Or upload a file to be disassembled. james: "gee girls.. the mall is closed" heh heh.. don't think that would go over very well somehow. might find myself planted somewhere Ronald: it's a massive place. Basically, I have a subset of the mall that I always go to.....very small portion thereof Daniel B: sounds great! I really like your project idea. james: i'd probably hit all the bookstores james: @dan - i will be redoing my server on the weekend Scott: Since you are actually programming new games, perhaps you'd like to help me test it out? Daniel B: @james - under Linux and with PHP and MySQL? james: i ran into dependency hell with installing php and apache 2.0 james: yes Scott: You're not using SUSE, are you? Daniel B: It will be a pleasure to try it james: when i installed apache, i didn't know about apt-get and how it creates dependency trees james: no, debian woody Scott: We had *MASSIVE* problems with SUSE & PHP Scott: Easiest install I've had is PHP/MySQL under Mandrake james: so then when i used apt-get to get php, of course it didn't know about the existing apache installation and the versions were Daniel B: I'm not an expert in Z80 ASM programming but I can program coleco things in asm. james: mismatched Scott: But I've heard the later versions of SUSE are better. james: @ron, how far a drive is it for you? Daniel B: @rich: you are so quiet. are you ok? Scott: Daniel - that sounds good. There are a few things that I'm stuck on with regard to ColecoVision programming rich-c: ha, by teh time he pays teh ferry fare on a car, it's cheaper to fly Ronald: about 975 miles. a couple of days james: yeah, i was going to say after looking at a map, it's a bit of a drive rich-c: uh - Westjet? or don't they do direct Comox/Edmonton? james: well as long as you have family out there and can make it worth your while Ronald: yes that's also an alternative Scott: I have a problem setting up the screen where four sprites all point to the same image. Also had problems reading the joysticks Scott: That's why I want to create this tool and publish some of my code. Scott: I have the feeling I will be able to get past these programming issues Ronald: we'll see..... a lot will depend on whether or not my new digs are available. the Manager of the development where I want to go says that rich-c: given teh dicey weather, especially after you cross teh Rockies, flight might be advisable that time of year, Ron Scott: Daniel, your C programming tools for ColecoVision are great and very easy Ronald: a unit for me might be available late March, early april james: if we can hook up for a few hours at the mall, it would be good to catch up with you but that's a big trip to make james: digs? Ronald: so whether I fly or drive depends on what that plays out like
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: I would not count on doing it by road through the Rockies in late March Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Scott: Hello, Guy Guy B.: Scott, how are you doing? Ronald: I already have a $400 westjet credit because Mom didn't make the trip at Christmas rich-c: hello Guy, where have you been? james: @rich - that's exactly why we're bussing it instead of my renting a van Guy B.: I was out to dinner with Jeanene tonight. Daniel B: @scott: I have to admit that something in the original z80 specs document was not emulated in coleco emulators until now and it cause a bad surprise when testing under a real coleco. it's about a time window we have to wait to be able to pitch data to the VDP and this window depends on many things like the screen mode used, sprites used and if the data are transfered during the refresh or not. james: if it were summer, i'd go for it, but not at that time of year james: brb Scott: Hmmm... I'll have to look into that Guy B.: Rich, any word from Dale on the con? Ronald: it can be iffy - I'm not one for dealing with snow drifts any more Scott: Daniel, I need to show you the JavaScript 8X8 editing tool I developed. It's kind of neat Scott: This creates the bit image data needed for and 8 X 8 image rich-c: I've even sat out a snowstorm north of Banff in July Scott: When I get time, I'm going to do another for sprites Ronald: yup Rich. No guarantees Daniel B: And it looks like the z80 emulation made by Marat (used in many emulators) doesn't emulate right the speed because something is missing and this explain why my digital sound test run faster under the emulators than the real coleco. rich-c: Guy, I sent an email at him, it didnt get bounced, but no action Scott: Then put a slew of images in the database and make them available as a library of images Guy B.: Guess we'll just have to wait and see then. Daniel B: I developed a dacman maze editor in javascript. rich-c: if Westjet weren't discount, and didn't go direct Comox - Edmonton, I wouldnt suggest it Scott: Neat. How large was your grid? Daniel B: 19x21 Guy B.: Although I won't be planning my vacation time until May. Doesn't hurt to plan ahead, so I can get my dates in. Scott: Ever thought of putting that online, at very least in a protected area for yourself rich-c: I think he must be at leasst checking the transcripts here - I'm not gettting bounced off any ore Scott: So you could put do game development in your browser? Scott: And save the results to a database Scott: You could create hundreds of screens Daniel B: The dacman maze editor I did is to let everyone participate to my special dacman special 5th anniversary edition. I just need to tweak it to submit the maze data. Guy B.: Scott, how are you doing in school and what courses are you taking this year? Scott: That's also partly what I'd like to do - create a ColeoVision game where the levels could be saved in a database Scott: And one could select their favorite boards and generate a ROM on the fly Ronald: brb Daniel B: Actually, the submit button do simply a "mailto" to my mailbox. Scott: School is going well. I'm taking Astronomy (for my degree) Telecommunications and a soft course, don't laugh -- Intro to HTML Daniel B: having more time and a web server with php support, I will probably do a databse with all the mazes and a tool to manage these mazes Guy B.: That wouldn't hurt at all taking HTML. Who knows it could come in handy sometime. Scott: A course in HTML is fairly below me. I've been doing web design/development for almost 6 years Scott: And it's a VERY simple class Guy B.: Well, then it should be a breeze for you then. Scott: But I need it to get a certificate in Web Design from the college. I would like to have that for my resume Guy B.: That would be a big Plus there. Scott: Daniel, you should definitely do that. That would be incredible if you could have all those boards at your disposal and effortlessly create ROMs Scott: I've already got 6 certificates from the college, but none in web Guy B.: Wow, then this would be good for prospective employers. Guy B.: When are you due to graduate? Scott: Well that's what I'll be focusing on for my new site. An online assembler/disassembler and assorted other code and development tools Scott: I graduate at the end of this semester for my Associate of General Studies (AGS) and a certificate in Networking. Guy B.: Fantastic. Then what next for you? Scott: Next semester (summer) I'll be taking another bonehead class and receiving a certificate in Computer Information Systems Guy B.: Some programming in that? Scott: Afterward, I need 3 classes for an Associate of Applied Science in Computer Information Systems Scott: Oh yeah. Java, C, and Visual Basic. I've taken all those already Scott: Still need to take a class in C++ Scott: Learned PHP on the job Guy B.: Looks like you got the main part done. Scott: But if you know C, and a little bit of Perl, PHP is really easy Scott: I'm very close. That's why I'm taking a few extra classes and beefing up my resume Scott: After I get a little more math, I'll move on to the university Scott: Math = very scary thing Guy B.: I remember that crash course in C back at Adamcon 13 with those Lego robots. Boy, I got all messed up with that. Scott: Sounds like fun. Ronald: it was rich-c: quite a hoot - hope you looked at the website, Scott Guy B.: I'm sticking with Qbasic, Cobol and Visual Basic for now. I have 6 years programming experience in Cobol. james: back james: for what it's worth :P rich-c: how's the snow now, james? Scott: Never taken Cobol, but it's still in use today Scott: We have Cobol programmers somewhere in Northrop Grumman Scott: I've heard VB.Net is good stuff, but I haven't checked it out yet. james: it seems to have abated somewhat james: i'll be happier when i can see my trees again Ronald: Just keep it your side of the Pacific James james: i was gonna crate it all up and put it on a ferry Scott: We still have snow on the ground out here in Denver. Guy B.: I've used Cobol back when my company had an IBM mainframe. Ronald: no! no! rich-c: thught you didn't see teh ground until July, Scott Scott: My wife and I are thinking of moving back to the east coast to get away from the altitude and long winters james: if i aim it just right i can probably hit your place Guy B.: When did you get married Scott? Scott: It's pretty much gone by May Ronald: I'll send it to Tarana Scott: May of 2002. Scott: My wife's name is Ligia. She's Colombian. Guy B.: How did you two meet? Scott: Her english is pretty good rich-c: better stay in teh bkue states, then. latins aren't popular in teh red ones Scott: We met on a blind date to see a horror movie. It was the remake of Psycho. Kinda funny sounding, isn't it? james: interesting that blue and red are opposite what they are in canada Scott: We're in a red state right now rich-c: or anywhere else in teh world pretty well, james Scott: We're looking at North Carolina -- Charlotte area Guy B.: Oh wow. I remember you mention your girlfriend whenever you came on here, So, I guess it was her. rich-c: yes I know - does that have anything to do with teh itch to move? james: i consider myself socially liberal but economically conservative. many of my generation do. james: too bad there'S no party that matches that rich-c: oh at teh moment with Martin the federal Libs do james: @ron, i think the torontonians won't recognize it :P Scott: Yes, my girlfriend moved out here awhile ago. It's the same person Ronald: So what's the State of the Union. Missed the speech. Now listening to the "experts" on CNN Scott: I heard that you just got the Fox News channel in Canada Guy B.: That's great Scott. Send us a photo of her sometime. Ronald: @James. They'll blame us, they always do Scott: Just curious how that's going over in Canada james: oh crap? really? isn't "fox news" something of an oxymoron? Ronald: Yes, God help us Scott: I will. Will put it on my new web site james: i'm no big fan of the windbags in ottawa rich-c: let's say it's available, Scott - not that anyone is likely to watch it rich-c: Bill O"Reilly is not our kind of people Guy B.: Well, folks guess it's time for me to go. I'll see how my time is for Saturday, otherwise I'll see you all next week. Ronald: our media globs are billing it as a Gov't influenced propaganda channel james: screw the east, screw the west, kowtow to quebec and send ontario's profits directly into federal coffers Scott: Wow, that's sad. I usually like to watch both sides of the fence james: @scott, we do, just not fox. we'll watch cnn and abc rich-c: OK Guy, will keep an eye out for you Scott: See ya Guy. NIce talking with you Scott: CNN and ABC aren't balanced james: well i wouldn't say fox is balanced either rich-c: maybe you should get in touch with jeff, since you live so close together Scott: Not saying Fox is, but those other two are fairly well slanted Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session jeffc: Scott, my wifes Colombian too Ronald: dont think any of them either side of the border are balanced james: i get most of my news online anyway Scott: Slanted to the left, I mean james: and try to get as wide a sample as possible Ronald: only way James Scott: I like watching O'Reilly. james: i think canada could do with a shift to the right, economically anyway Ronald: I just signed up for the online version of the Victoria - Times-Communist rich-c: funny - here we seem them as running dogs of teh capitalist reactionaries ; - ) Scott: What part of Colombia is your wife from? james: and well.. the u.s. and the christian hegemon just scare me right now Ronald: should be Times-Colonist jeffc: Born in Bogota Scott: My wife was born near Cali in Candelaria jeffc: I've been to Colombia to visit her family, how about you rich-c: hell, $9 billion in surplus, paying down teh debt - how conservative do you want, james? james: practise what you want, but keep it out of state affairs and keep your churches and sexual repression to yourself Scott: Not yet. Not very safe especially for americans james: @rich, i'm totally in favour of debt repayment, best way to go rich-c: no question, james. should tell the neighbours james: where i get ired, and i think most do, is when i read about hrdc, the gun registry, the governor general's expenditures james: and the likes of liberal pigs feeding from the public trough james: not that the conservatives are any better Ronald: we had Stephen Harper here a week ago Ronald: Listened to him speak out at the Crown Isle Golf Club rich-c: I'll agree, james, but teh hrdc has been duly chastised, the gun registry is still under increasing fire Ronald: room was full of Tory Reformers james: was that a pun? :P Ronald: and the fed me, which is why I went rich-c: and as for teh GGs expenditures, I think we got full value for money and more james: lol Scott: Lost in Canadian politics... james: meh, i say sack the monarchy, sack the g.g. and hire another auditor general Ronald: Harper is not at ease in a crowd Ronald: he's a good speaker, but when he has to schmooze, he looks stilted and uncomfortable rich-c: yes, nothing to say, and a bit wacko about what he does mutter james: i think it's harder than it looks Ronald: He had an aide very close to him throughout rich-c: I am not a fan of Mr. Harper and do not fancy his friends much either james: some people just aren't comfortable with direct interaction with people they don't know Ronald: I love that word R E F O R M !!! rich-c: honest men don't need aides to coach them - which is why every politician has one james: lol Ronald: exactly james: @rich, then i assume you know how to tell if a politician is lying rich-c: sure as long as hiis lips are moving Daniel B: @jameS: I know, it's when his mouth is moving. james: :D Scott: If there's a pulse... james: @ron, is edmonton a big city geographically? rich-c: to revise an oldie, there are liars, damned liars, and politicians Ronald: @james - yes - covers quite a square area Scott: Somewhere lawyers fit into there too Ronald: the West Edmonton Mall is 170th St.... west side of town james: ok. i've got us (probably) staying at the west edmonton mall in the first night, but being pricy rich-c: pretty big, james - those westerners like their elbow room james: i'm going to get us to an airport hotel for the second night Ronald: my sister lives at 50th st......next to the river..... east side of town Ronald: Takes maybe an hour to transit - under normal traffic rich-c: avenues run one way, streets cross them Ronald: The airport is 35 miles south of town james: so i need to figure out what routes to get from mall to close to airport or if cab fare is pricy james: wow james: that's a ways rich-c: to go from 170th St. to 50th St. you'd use an avenue Scott: Just before I go, anyone care to make a SuperBowl pick Ronald: whitemud freeway Scott: I think the Patriots are going to win. james: i give the cheerleaders thumbs up. that's my pick. Ronald: Oh Hey.... it's Superbowl weekend eh? rich-c: New England - just because I have a buddy in Rhode Island roots for them Ronald: almost forgot Scott: The other team is Philadelphia rich-c: as for weekend tv picks - I'm taking the Daytona 24 Hours Scott: I think New England is too experienced going into this SuperBowl rich-c: I only watch Canadian football - it spils one for teh furrin imitations Scott: Ok, well I've gotta go. Are you guys still doing a Saturday chat? james: alright so i should figure out edmonton. rich-c: yep, I hope to be there, ditto Guy Ronald: would be a good idea James rich-c: sheesh, I didn't realize teh time Scott: Saturday chat? rich-c: I gotta bail, folks rich-c: see you Saturday or next week Ronald: nite Rich Scott: Bye james: and update my schedule. first night and day is easy. just need to figure out which airport hotel and how to get there Scott: I'm gone too Ronald: yes.... must try to remember that Scott: Later! james: by, to those who are leaving rich-c: colour me gone
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Scott left chat session james: *bye Daniel B: bye rich... too late Daniel B: bye scott.... late again Ronald: James - esentially the River (think it's the North Saskatchewan) divides the town north south james: and the airport is south? Ronald: streets run north/south Ronald: yes the airport is south - due south of town centre Ronald: avenues run east west james: and where is the mall in relation to all this james: i really should look up a map, i guess Ronald: so if you've got an address lie 11619 73rd Ave you're on 73rd ave just off 116 street Ronald: yeah, a map would be useful james: the girls were asking me about seeing the aurora too james: don't think we'll be making the 475km drive up to fort mcmurray though Ronald: you know, that's something I've never looked for while over there james: well we'd be there at the right time of year, but i mean the odds are never in one's favour with stuff like that Ronald: Around the 21 of June, it's light till about 11 pm.... so they're up there james: and edmonton certainly is far enough north Ronald: yes. Must ask my sis about that. I'm sure they must of seen the aurora. Their living room window faces north james: i doubt they'd be visible from the city, but perhaps from city limits where things aren'T all washed out Ronald: yeah..... city light tends to obscure it james: it'd be a nice bonus for our trip but i'm not going to plan on it Ronald: right james: are they visible when it's overcast? Ronald: think it has to be clear Ronald: but I'll find out james: good chance of that though at that time of year. cold northern air tends to clear things up james: had a good view of jupiter the other night, but it was too cold for me to be outside stargazing Ronald: most times james: think i'll look into this more once the rest of the schedule is set Ronald: it's actually too cold on the deck out here too - I go out for a few minutes at a time and gaze skyward Ronald: Last year the Mars thing was neat to see james: yeah, i took a peek too
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Daniel B left chat session james: @dan, i'll be in contact with you soon about the server Ronald: yes Daniel -I'd rather that too james: missed him Ronald: gone james: aurora would be cool. gonna keep that at the back of my head for now Ronald: Well - I have two more forms todo for Mom's probate submission, so I better get at it Ronald: then I go do battle with the court house james: yeah, i should get some scheduling done and a couple of emails/faxes sent james: i just might get this tied up this week Ronald: right have a good week sir james: only been working on it for five months now james: you too! Ronald: take care james: *poof*
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