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changed username to Pamela Pamela: Hi Dad rich-c: hi Pam, you're on early toonight Pamela: well, I got everything done on time for a change rich-c: isn't often you're the first aboard Pamela: of course, I still have six loads of laundry to put away, but . . . rich-c: heavens! the age of miracles has not yet passed ; - ) Pamela: glad to have made your night. Pamela: How are things? rich-c: there is always a load of laundry to be put away - even if you didn't do any Pamela: well, i just finished putting away the last four loads last night - figured it was time for some different colours rich-c: oh, saw Dr. Santo yesterday - he told me to watch the USGP on tv but vacation travel is OK Pamela: well thats good - but where is the USGP? rich-c: he thinks that tumble I took in February was a symptomn of peripheral vascular dystrophy rich-c: that's not enough blood flow to teh parts that stick out Pamela: well that would make a certain amount of sense rich-c: it's at Indianapolis - they have a course in the infield rich-c: yes, it would also explain why I'm so sensitive to cold
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changed username to Harvie rich-c: he thinks the long walk into the course plus the long stair climb might be too much Harvie: Hello rich-c: and if I should have to carry heavy stuff or allow for rain, forget it rich-c: hi Harvie, how's it going? Harvie: Incredibly average :) Pamela: greetings Harvie - sorry, I was cleaning my mousepad rich-c: do you think we might have a spring this year? Pamela: how is Arthur-itis this evening? Harvie: Next monday rich-c: well, if you got an optical mouse, Pam, you wouldnt have to worry Pamela: I have an optical mouse Dad Harvie: Artie is ok for about an hour max Pamela: it's not what's on the eye that's the problem, it's what's on the mousepad and the feet of the mouse rich-c: that's a pretty narrow window of opportunity, Harvie Pamela: and spring must be coming soon Dad - all the windows in here are open and I'm not freezing my tush off rich-c: well, on our errands today I was able to back off the heater a bit Harvie: After an hour things start to throb, have to have a very short walk Pamela: I was outside in my fleece today and fine with it, despite the wind rich-c: does that relieve it then, Harvie? Harvie: Helps the knees a bit Pamela: I guess the question becomes Harvie, can you walk and type at the same time? rich-c: yes, I think I'll be able to switch to my fleece sweater soon too Harvie: I don't think so Pam Pamela: gotta love polar fleece - I'd like to shake the hand of the inventor -him and Post It notes rich-c: I gather just stretching them and moving them isnt enough? rich-c: well the guy who invented post-it notes is well known Harvie: After the short walk I like to get them up for a while Pamela: I'd still like to shake his hand Pamela: talk about things I use every day rich-c: you could likely find his email address and send him a thank-you Pamela: all I have to do is wend my way through the maze at 3M rich-c: then Harvie what you have is a cramping and stiffness that moves into pain? rich-c: that's what google is for - search post-it Harvie: Stiffness rich-c: that's almost more like muscle cramping than arthritis, in the description rich-c: mind you, the two can go together - I know Pamela: when does James leave Japan? Harvie: The stiffness is from inflamation of the tendons rich-c: Pam, did I send you the URL for the screen cleaner? Pamela: yes, and I got my screen duly cleaned. It only took 10 minutes to load : ( rich-c: right - I forget, what are you doing for the inflaamation? rich-c: trust you passe3d it on to those who would appreciate it Harvie: Sometimes aspirin Pamela: I will. rich-c: there is more effective stuff, Harvie - have you discussed it with your doctor? rich-c: I'd suggest Erin and Kimberly, for starters Harvie: Pam, did you get your memory problem fixed? Pamela: I haven't even tried yet Harvie - been too busy rich-c: if she waita a little long the computer will die of old age and make the whole thing moot Pamela: these days I'm lucky if I get at the computer once a week Pamela: there is that consideration too Dad : ) rich-c: sheesh - your mother and I are trying to get away from it occasionally Harvie: rich, He said medication only masks the pain and encourages you to do more damage
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changed username to Dr.D. rich-c: hello Rich Pamela: greetings Rich Dr.D.: Hi all. Pamela: you're home, awake and here - how did that happen? Dr.D.: Only here for a bit...long night ahead, have to write a lecture for tomorrow :-( Harvie: Hi Doc Dr.D.: Probably won't finish until about 4 AM :-( Dr.D.: Small turnout, looks like. Pamela: so far, anyway rich-c: it's early yet, don't fuss it Harvie: High traffic last week rich-c: yes, but it took a while to develop and some didn Dr.D.: I was busy then, too. Wednesday night is like my worst night of the week this semester. rich-c: t come in until others had left Pamela: besides, if I want to sleep tonite, I'll have to take off early to put my laundry away Dr.D.: I have lecture class Tuesday and Thursday, but 2 3-hour labs with half-hour prep each on Wednesday. Dr.D.: Plus lab Tuesday afternoon...so I hardly get to work on stuff for Thursday during normal working hours. Dr.D.: Tomorrow I have to spend the evening at the Theta Chi chapter at Kent State University. Pamela: does it always take that long to write a lecture? Dr.D.: So I am going to have a long day... Harvie: Keeps boredom at bay I'll bet Dr.D.: Yes, when I am teaching something that I have to relearn after 25 years. Dr.D.: I could do with boredom, Harvie. rich-c: the first year teaching any ciourse is a killer, Pam - even for kindergarten Dr.D.: Anatomy was a review, physiology has been major relearning. Dr.D.: I am struggling to stay ahead of the class. rich-c: lesson planning is - well, a challenge Dr.D.: This class was invented from scratch, new book, new syllabus, new everything. Harvie: Show reruns of CSI :) Dr.D.: ha Dr.D.: Christina would like that rich-c: when I was teaching classes I spent far more time on prep than I did doing lessons Dr.D.: 6 hours prep for 75-minute lecture this semester :-( Pamela: good Lord! Dr.D.: And I have little of this lecture written...hence the 4 AM estimated time of finishing. rich-c: that sounds about right, Rich Dr.D.: You try giving a coherent talk on something totally new for that long, Pam :-) Pamela: do you actually get through all of your material in that period? Pamela: no thanks : ) Dr.D.: Usually...sometimes I guess wrong (always on the too-much side). rich-c: aside to Harvie: my arthritis pain was kept fairly well under control with Arthotec Pamela: is this a first year class? rich-c: it's a prescription NSAID easier on the plumbing but good on inflammation Dr.D.: It's a junior/senior level class. Dr.D.: So I can't BS my way through anything, they are sharp, mostly pre-meds. rich-c: didn't realize how good till I had to give it up a week before my surgery - that was the worst part of the operation
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: hello! Daniel Bienvenu: c'est moi! Daniel Bienvenu: ;-) rich-c: bon nuit, Daniel Pamela: do you actually write / read the lecture word for word, or point form it? Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Rich Pamela: allo, Daniel Harvie: The pain is Mother Natures way of saying Whoa Boy Dr.D.: Hi Daniel rich-c: comment ca va a Ste.Foy? Dr.D.: I write out mostly what I will write on the blackboard. Harvie: Hi Daniel Dr.D.: I have to put all the details in or I will forget them. Dr.D.: I have not been doing this so long that I have it all totally memorized. Daniel Bienvenu: À ste-Foy, la neige fond doucement. Dr.D.: And I never use PowerPoint, thank goodness, that would add another 6 hours to it. rich-c: very true, Harvie, but don't play hero - that';s what my surgeon said Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Pam! Hi Harvie! Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Dr.D Pamela: what is the goal at the end of the semester then? rich-c: we have not had much snow lately, so some significant melting has taken place Dr.D.: That they be exposed to all of human physiology at the almost-med-school level. Dr.D.: Every organ system...emphasis on neuro, cardiovascular, pulmonary, and endocrine. rich-c: I assume you mean a once-over-;ightly of all major systems? Dr.D.: Tomorrow is the one lecture on the immune system. Pamela: and how does physiology differ from anatomy - identification vs function? Dr.D.: No, once over in great detail. Dr.D.: Anatomy is the names of structures. Dr.D.: Physiology is how they work. rich-c: I'm surprised you can get that done in 150 hours a week rich-c: sorry - 150 minuteeds Dr.D.: It feels like 150 hours. Dr.D.: I have to cover 2 textbook chapters per lecture, about 30-60 pages. rich-c: or do expect them to read a textbook a week in addition? rich-c: in heavyweight scince? that is seriously tough Dr.D.: It is, yes. Dr.D.: But med school is worse. rich-c: so I have heard; you just get them conditioned, is that it? Dr.D.: I am not abusing them on purpose. They have to know a ton all at once in med school, there is just no escaping it. rich-c: oh, that's understood Dr.D.: And molecular biology advances over the last 20 years have pushed anatomy/physiology aside...but the molecular stuff doesn't help you diagnose/treat stuff as well as traditional anatomy/physiology. Dr.D.: Most of the molecular stuff just drives new drug design. rich-c: by the time they're out practicing, an 80-hour week will feel like a vacation Dr.D.: haha Dr.D.: Anyways...I need to sleep at least a couple hours tonight, so I think I will say sayonara. Pamela: probably a good plan Rich rich-c: yes, if you don't know what/s going on in there, 6you can't treat it even if treatment is available Dr.D.: Good night, all. Sleep some for me :-) rich-c: OK Rich, take care, see you next week Harvie: Happy trails Doc Pamela: good luck getting it written. Pamela: Gnite. Dr.D.: It will get done, it has to. Dr.D.: <poof>
Dr.D. left chat session rich-c: hey, he's gone, I'm still here rich-c: wonder if that's Firefox or Dale fixing the program? Pamela: what were you saying about the age of miracles Dad? Harvie: Firefox or IE? rich-c: actually I haven't been dropped since I started using Firefosx - well, maybe once rich-c: I still use IE a lot because Firefox makes password handling so awkward rich-c: and they didn't improve things with the new 1.0.5 upgrade rich-c: getting the setting right and the look right isn't easy Daniel Bienvenu: I'm quiet, I know... but it's not because I'm not there, but I received messages to answer. rich-c: and I still haven't learned to use tabs Pamela: you'll have to show me Dad Pamela: I've never seen Firefox rich-c: yes, this would be a good night for you to hold forth, Daniel - less competiton Pamela: it's gotten awfully quiet all of a sudden rich-c: Harvie, have you heard of a new browser called Phaseout? Harvie: That's a new one on me rich-c: It's a tabbed browser, and I believe a freebie Daniel Bienvenu: I'm using FireFox for about 3 months now. I uninstalled Netscape and Mozilla and I keeped Firefox. rich-c: take a look at phaseout.net - I'm not sure if it's a www. or just http:// Daniel Bienvenu: And I found why firefox crash on my computer, it's a well-konw problem with the ocx file by macromedia. rich-c: well, Netscape is just Firefox with a bunch of spyware added, using a different name Harvie: I'll look later (weekend) if I remember Pamela: well gents, I think I'm going to hit the road - I still have to put my laundry away, and I'm zoning Pamela: an early bedtime won't hurt me rich-c: OK daughter, take care, see you Pamela: g'nite Daddy, I'll call in the next few days Pamela: night Harvie, Daniel Harvie: Goodnight Pam rich-c: ok - have a good sleep (for a change) Pamela: Say hi to anyone I miss Pamela: I will Dad. I'm outta here. Pamela: kerpoof
Pamela left chat session rich-c: how come you don't use IE, Daniel? Harvie: He is too wise Daniel Bienvenu: I still need IE... windows update works only with this one rich-c: just don't like it, is that it? or prefer tabbed browsing? Daniel Bienvenu: Well, Firefox is good compromise between Mozilla and IE. Daniel Bienvenu: Firefox don't use the same special keys than mozilla to be more IE compliant rich-c: Firefox is just a development of Mozilla, a little lessdemanding interface, I gather Harvie: IE = hijack prone, nonstandard implementation of web standards Daniel Bienvenu: do you know the popular BBS in php (forums)? rich-c: well, I keep IE right up to dsate (all updates) and have about four layers of protection Daniel Bienvenu: well, it works better under IE than Mozilla Daniel Bienvenu: starnge knmowing php is not microsoft rich-c: yes, a number of the BBSs I use, are using php rich-c: it's actually open source meant originally for Unix, isn't it? Harvie: But the site maintainer probably uses Ms server rich-c: aren't Unix servers still far more popular? Daniel Bienvenu: yes unix-like still popular Harvie: Linux and Unix, yes rich-c: anyway, Daniel, I believe Mozilla is simply an earlier draft of Firefox, in effect rich-c: are you saying, Daniel, that Macromedia Flash programs can crash Firefox? Harvie: Mozilla is a suite like app, Firefox and Thunderbird are modules Daniel Bienvenu: I notice that Firefox is starting and running much faster than Mozilla rich-c: right - so Mozilla being more memory consumptive would run slower Daniel Bienvenu: I tried the free antivirus software I talked last time and... my verdict is don't try it. rich-c: which one is that, Daniel? Daniel Bienvenu: asvast.. i think Daniel Bienvenu: avast? Daniel Bienvenu: anyway rich-c: OK, I have AVG on my laptop and Anti-Vir on my desktop, but haven't tried Avast rich-c: I think of the pair I have AVG may be a little easier to get on with, but the jury is still out Harvie: AVG protected my system by locking the Windows system files, prompting a re-install Daniel Bienvenu: two bad things about avast : using too much disk space, and can bug by trying to uncompress archives (in windows/temp) and do an infinite loop. rich-c: really? I have never heard of any such misadventures - you must have something rally strange
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changed username to Scott Scott: Hi guys Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Scott! Scott: Need to get food for the dogs Scott: Be back in a minute... rich-c: hello Scott - how's Colorado today? Daniel Bienvenu: I saw your message telling us you fix the problem Harvie: I found the best anti-virus protection is Linux rich-c: yes, if there aren't many viruses written the chances of infection have to be lower rich-c: some claim open source means it's easier to spot and meet a virus challenge rich-c: or at lest clean up the mess afterwards rich-c: but it also means all the script kiddies can keep probing it Daniel Bienvenu: it's easier to find faillure or security problem... but it's valid for both sides. Scott: I'm back Daniel Bienvenu: hello again scott Scott: Yes, I fixed that little issue Scott: Thanks for pointing it out. Scott: I'm also reviewing TFS rich-c: once Linus gets popular enouigh, I suspect it's going to get a plague of viruses too Harvie: That's true, but also Linux has users and administraters (root), if you run as a user malware can only hurt your home partition Scott: The extract from ROM/Save to ROM needs some work Daniel Bienvenu: I didn't test with rom yet Scott: I didn't really touch it in the last 2 weeks of development Daniel Bienvenu: today, i programmed a windows application in vb5 to do screen mode 3 screens. Scott: I put off the file I/O until last Harvie: That is a misconception rich Scott: Interesting. Don't remember what mode 3 is. Multicolor mode? Daniel Bienvenu: yes, very big pixels Daniel Bienvenu: the screen is like a 64x48 pixels image Scott: The only graphics mode I'm really interested in is mode 2. Scott: I don't touch the rest. Scott: Perhaps I'll dabble around with the VDP some more. rich-c: I've heard both sides in my newsletters, Harvie, but no real information yet Daniel Bienvenu: yes, the very interresting one is mode 2 and I adapted my icvgm software for it in the version 3. Scott: So what is this meeting you're going to? Scott: CCVG or something or other? Harvie: A virus can only operate in Linux if you explicitly tell it to Scott: Lakers lost last night, BTW, life is good! Daniel Bienvenu: it's a meeting where video games collectors (mostly classic gamers) exchange, trade, buy and sell video games/game systems and also computers. Scott: Interesting. Any development? Scott: Or stictly collectors? rich-c: I am sure some ingenious hacker will find a way to bugger things up 8 = ( Daniel Bienvenu: it's CCJVQ for Club des Collectionneurs de Jeux Vidéos du Québec (Quebec Video Games Collectors Club) Daniel Bienvenu: Well, there are 4 coleco programmers in the club. :-) Scott: Cool. When TFS is ready, I'll send each a copy on CD Harvie: Well , my hour is up, I must go, Goodnight all Scott: Obviously, much work still needs to be done on TFS! Scott: Some of the functionality that I want is there.
Harvie left chat session rich-c: night Harvie - easy on those knees Scott: Wow, quiet night! Scott: Or am I too late? Daniel Bienvenu: My software ICVGM was not done in one day. Take time! Daniel Bienvenu: you are not too late. Scott: And I still have The Animation Studio to develop. Scott: Ouch! Daniel Bienvenu: it was a quiet night Scott: Will be burning the midnight oil! Daniel Bienvenu: comparing to the previous chat session Scott: It's never a quiet night while I'm here. rich-c: yes, Pam has come and gone, and Rich, and Bob hasn't shown, and Ron isn't due yet, nor Guy Scott: Right, Rich? Scott: Ron's moving, right? Scott: So Dan, what is your initial impression to TFS? rich-c: yes, on April 15th, apparently rich-c: want some old computers? Scott: Sucks? Needs work? Alright? Good? Great??? Scott: Old computers? rich-c: he has a basement full adn no basement to take them to in the new place Scott: Coleco ADAM computers? Daniel Bienvenu: my impression? well, it's good, but I still prefer my own software for now. rich-c: I think he was talking about handing out a couple
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changed username to Guy B. Daniel Bienvenu: hi Guy rich-c: they are still salable but he doesn't want to make his maiden excursion on eBay right now rich-c: hi Guy, wondering when you'd show up Scott: Yeah, it is quite different than yours. I would also prefer the tool that I developed since I know its limitations Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Effective this past Monday. I got promoted. Scott: Congratulations, Guy Scott: And, hi!
(rich-c gives Guy B. a can of Diet Coke.) Daniel Bienvenu: But your "to do" list is very interresting. the final version should be my prefered tool in the future. Guy B.: Wow, only four of us tonight? Where has everyone gone to? Daniel Bienvenu: I think they all gone to bad, Guy Daniel Bienvenu: err.. to bed! :-P Scott: TFS will integrate completely with The Animation Studio, so it will get interesting. rich-c: don't know where Bob is, Ron's not here yet, Pam and Rich have come and gone Scott: Yeah, the TO DO list keeps growing. Scott: The core functionality is present, but there's a lot more that it should do.
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changed username to Ron Daniel Bienvenu: it was a one-day developing project. Guy B.: Hi Ron Scott: Wow, then you're pretty close to being do. Ron: Hi all Ron: Sorry to be late, but had to attend to some action on the house rich-c: ah Ron, here at last Scott: The ASM source code was a breeze to develop. Daniel Bienvenu: hi Ron rich-c: I think Scott wants to ask you about used Adams Scott: Surprising that the GUI design eats up a lot of time Ron: Hi Daniel Ron: Guy B. Scott: I can only imagine how long it would take to develop in Java Scott: My GUI design for each font set changed several times Scott: I actually revamped it quite a bit in the last two weeks. Scott: Oh yes, hi Ron Ron: Hi Scott Scott: One feature that I wanted to add was the ability to download fontsets directly from TFS Scott: Perhaps store font sets directly into a database
(rich-c gives rich-c a nice tall frosty Guinness) Scott: Need to think it through some more. Scott: I am quite pleased with Visual Basic, though. A very good prototyping tool
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changed username to james Scott: Definitely has its use. Ron: Guiness is good james: hi, not here for long james: how is everyone? Ron: Hi James Scott: Hi James. Guy B.: Hi James Ron: You're here for a good time, not a long time Scott: How are your ColecoVision/ADAM projects going? rich-c: btw, gentlemen, I expect to miss Saturday's chat - Sebring race is on, and GP of Malaysia rich-c: good morning, james james: it's all i can do to keep up with my regular work Scott: How's Japan, my friend? Daniel Bienvenu: saturday, it's the ccjvq meeting rich-c: maybe I should have saved it for toimorrow, Ron Scott: Daniel: Are you still planning to finish that 3D ColecoVision game? james: wet but better than what we had rich-c: but I've got errands in the afternoon and early evening, so it isn't discreet james: got 60cm of snow here on the weekend Daniel Bienvenu: with the editor scrn mode 3 I'm doing, I will be able to do one of my "to do" projects. Ron: ah well..... that's your call my son Daniel Bienvenu: the 3d game is based on screen mode 3... Scott: I am contemplating doing Dragon Master in Flash, then porting a version to ColecoVision. rich-c: hey, that's about two feet - all at once? james: yup. started friday night and finished sunday night Scott: Ahh! Ok, gotcha then. Mulicolor mode + sprites, right? Should be interesting... Daniel Bienvenu: hi james, i can't chat with you saturday rich-c: that's a real dump, james - make you fell like Ottawa? Ron: merry Christmas james: we get dumped on here like that a lot in the winter, sometimes more Daniel Bienvenu: yes scott, the monsters in the cave will be sprites. james: it's mostly gone now though. 2 or 3 days of temps above 10 with sun and rain have cleared almost all of it rich-c: I guess our news media are deficient - we never hear about your blizzards Scott: That's an original way of using Multicolor mode. Scott: Should work fairly well. rich-c: but then they didn't cath that 90-car Interstate pileupo over by Bob last week either Scott: How's the graphics at 64 X 48? james: ok, case is having a tantrum, i should go Scott: Pretty blocky? rich-c: OK james, take it easy, come back soon james: he'd better outgrow this soon or he might not be with us for his 4th birthday james: a year of this shit is more than enough Ron: see ya J Scott: Bye! rich-c: they do, but I can't offer advice james: ttys, sorry to be so brief Daniel Bienvenu: In theory, in full-screen, the game can do 30 fps rendering, but it's too fast for nothing. james: *poof* i'll try to come back if he calms down Daniel Bienvenu: bye James
james left chat session Scott: Wow, 30 FPS. Really? Scott: 24 FPS should be more than enough? Ron: brb Scott: Perhaps a little choppy at film camera rate? Scott: Ron - Don't go!!! Scott: ;) Daniel Bienvenu: NTSC 60 refresh per second. and my function should be able to show a new frame at each 2 refresh. Daniel Bienvenu: but, it's too fast for nothing Scott: That's pretty smooth. How much can you pack into a 32K ROM? Daniel Bienvenu: I will probably do a 10 fps
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changed username to BobS Scott: Hi, Bob! Daniel Bienvenu: hi bob BobS: Hi guys and gals BobS: ok, no gals Scott: We were just talking about you ;) rich-c: about time you got here, Bob - james, Rich , Pam and Harvie have already come and gone BobS: I know, I am late, but at tleast I made it Scott: We'll beat you later! rich-c: we will give you credit for that - trust you have a good excuse ; - ) Guy B.: Hi Bob. To those of you who missed when I came on. I got promoted effective on Monday. BobS: COOL Guy Scott: You are the man... BobS: yes, went out w/ family for Judy's belated b-day
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changed username to rich-c Scott: $BIG MONEY$ Scott: My performance review is tommorrow Scott: The chat room has SLLLOOOOWWWWEEEEDDD down... Scott: Uh, oh, overload! rich-c: back to normal - dumped again!
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changed username to Bob Bob: got dumped rich-c: anyway, Guy, maybe now my congratulations on the promotioin will get through Guy B.: Ron, just got through reading about those floppies you have. What do you have on them? rich-c: me too Bob - what did you do to us? ;-) Bob: good stuff!!!!!! Scott: Well guys, I gotta go do some homework. After the homework, I'll get back to programming TFS! Bob: not me mon Scott: Have a good evening... Bob: well be good Scott Guy B.: Bye Scott.
Scott left chat session Bob: nite nite rich-c: night Scott - don't forget teh disc drive Bob: good luck richard Bob: I think Scott has a real bunch of unorganized boxes so far rich-c: well, I'll keep reminding him Bob: that'll do rich-c: bout all I can do Bob: so......what did I miss?????? rich-c: not a great deal, actually - chit chat, discussions of Firefox, that sort of stuff Bob: ah..........thas ok
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: Dr. D. was explaining why his appearances are short these days Bob: oh oh rich-c: well, he has significant workload Bob: he is BUSY.......wid a capital B rich-c: he is in effect a first-year tqacher rich-c: been there, done that, so I can sympathize Bob: and they are piling the workj on rich-c: undefined, if you want to give yourself a name, click on edit Bob: ya and then what? rich-c: well, as he pointed out, 60 minuts of class is six hours of prep Bob: probably at the first crack at ti Bob: will get easier as time goes om rich-c: in the first year you have no lesson plans or lecture notes or handouts, have to prepare them all
(Bob gives rich-c a nice tall frosty Guinness) Bob: nice, eh??? rich-c: easy there, Bob - I'm already working on my first one - and it isn't St. Paddy's Day for another 80 minutes!
(Guy B. throws a hot potato at Bob.) rich-c: ya tryin to make a drunk of me? Ron: back Ron: Hi Bob Bob: oh yes...don't want you to get ahead of your own self Bob: HI Ron Bob: what do ya meand back........ never left, eh? Ron: had to do an e-mail to my brother and sis re the house rich-c: got an offer? Bob: ah, sold it did ya?????? or still waiting??? Ron: yes, but...... Bob: but, but Ron: too low Ron: maybe I'll counter Bob: bummer, talk them UP rich-c: with offers, yes, buts- are S.O.P. Ron: ?? Ron: S.O.P. rich-c: the market these days, if your price is fair, you'll get a bidding war rich-c: standard operating procedure - thought a good bureaucrat would know that ; - ) Ron: haven't actually put it on the market yet..... there have been people coming to the door Ron: never heard that one Rich Bob: well they should be truly interestd than rich-c: I'd read that as a sign when you do formally offer it you'll get inundated rich-c: sign the offer back to them about $50 K over what the place is worth Ron: think so. Pretty hot around here right now Ron: Trying to do "Sale by Owner" and I'm not at all comfortable with the process rich-c: tell me about it - that monument to execrable taste next door to us is listed at $1.1 million Ron: but then, I've been uncomfortable before rich-c: suspect if you apply yourself "Sale by owner" will work better for you rich-c: but get a good lawyer and talk to him ahead of time Ron: Yes, like to the tune of about 12 grand rich-c: at least and maybe more Ron: Oh well..... it will all work out. Will see my legal guy tomorrow Bob: good advice there rich-c: gather then you already have your lawyer chosen, and consulted - you should be fine then Ron: hell no........ I haven't had a chance to consult yet...... Like I just got the probate papers last week. rich-c: oh, OK - just know where you are and don't let anyone push you Ron: But yes, the lawyer I'll be dealing with has done other things for both Mom and I Ron: exactly Rich. rich-c: right, and remember folks assume that "sale by owner" means you're not in the market for lowballs and haggling Ron: ok... point noted Ron: Sister Steph has the business head in the family Ron: I tend to give away the shop Guy B.: Ok folks. Got to run. I'm working this Saturday and will be helping Karen with an job application online. So, I'll see you all next week. Ron: Niters Guy. Be well rich-c: better get her deeply involved then - gives a good excuse for stalling, too - "gotta consult with the others" Bob: nite Guy rich-c: nite, Guy, Be good. Ron: exactly. I've already used it Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: that's OK, it wears well rich-c: oh, Ron, I have another little joke to send you rich-c: this time don't reply though - Frances read the incoming with the last one and was not amused Bob: oops rich-c: quite - she never looks at the outgoing Ron: oh..... my apologies rich-c: I survived (if barely) ; - ) rich-c: anyhow, bedtime here, folks - see you next Wednesday rich-c: good night, all Ron: Coke Ron: night Rich rich-c: colour me gone
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