rich-c: greetings RRobert RobertoS: guten TAG mon RobertoS: Tis I the .............door holder for beautiful women......etc rich-c: isn't beunos dias moe consistent with your name? RobertoS: missed chat last week, did you ever get back on ????? RobertoS: si senor RobertoS: actually. it's italian (???????) RobertoS: I don't know rich-c: yes, I did eventually, but Ma Bell had a router go bad and cut me off the net RobertoS: ah ha !!!!!!!! RobertoS: Doug was here and we got busy with stuff and I clean foregot about the chat until bedtime RobertoS: by then twas too late rich-c: anyway when I phoned my ISP had checked, told me what was up, and told me the only cure was time rich-c: anyway Daniel and Dale ended up in a high geek discussion so I bailed rich-c: are you still selling Adams on eBay? RobertoS: shoot Dale was here, eh? RobertoS: hasnt' been around much rich-c: yes, Dale was on when I got back RobertoS: any info on convention??? RobertoS: coming up soon ya know rich-c: haven't a clue; they were being techie when I was around RobertoS: am planning on Toronto in Judy RobertoS: so better happen rich-c: yes, the word is Whitby actually (just outside Toronto) weekend after the Moolson Indy rich-c: I think Dale did say (before I fell off) that Jill has a place chosen but hasn't closed any deals yet RobertoS: how far east is Whitby???? rich-c: I'd guess about 15 miles from the easstern boundary of Toronto - say 40 minutes from my place in non-rush hour traffic RobertoS: holy cow. dats RobertoS: another hour past the airport, yes? rich-c: let me check a minute rich-c: need to go get a magnifying glass - hold on rich-c: airport connector road is exit 352 (mine is 365) RobertoS: and rich-c: Whitby exit is 400 so say 50KM from airport to Whitby rich-c: or 30 minutes if you can maintain the speed limit rich-c: just don't arrive in rush hour (after 3 p.m. on the bad days) RobertoS: ok works for me......figured about 8 hours to you and IF we speed a little we can make it in 8 1/2 to Whitby RobertoS: what about taking the payway norht of toronot into whitby???? does it go that way?? rich-c: well, what time are you thinking of lasving in the a.m.? RobertoS: probably about 8am
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: I don't know; I have never used the 407 and really don't want to
changed username to Pamela RobertoS: what is the freeway you catch west of the airpor that is pay??? rich-c: hi daughter Pamela: oooh, big crowd RobertoS: YO Pamela Pamela: hi, Dad - Hi, Bob rich-c: 407, Bob RobertoS: ok Pamela: what about the 407? rich-c: Pam, any idea how much of a mess 407 is in rush hour? Pamela: from my experience, not at all rich-c: would you recommend taking it from Malton to Whitby? Pamela: absolutely rich-c: and how do they bill foreign drivers? Pamela: what you spend on tolls, you save on gas from sitting in traffic Pamela: send a bill to the address generated by the licence plate Pamela: try www.407etr.com for more information rich-c: and of course there's the extra charge for not having a transponder rich-c: OK - rich-c: Bob, trust you're copying that URL Pamela: oh yes, I forgot - they call it a video toll charge and its $3.25 a trip, I believe rich-c: that of course is in addition to the mileage chrage - how much is that for 50 km? RobertoS: YUKES try to killthe tourists!!!!!! rich-c: no, we have people commute the length of it every day Pamela: everybody, Bob,not just the tourists. If you don't have a transponder that's what you're charged RobertoS: 'tight' dutchmen don't like that idea rich-c: so get here early and take the 401 already Pamela: dunno what the mileage charge would be - if you check the website it'll tell you. The rate is higher during rush hour. rich-c: something around 14¢ a km, isn't it? Pamela: website will tell you what they define as rush hour too RobertoS: am checkin as we type Pamela: something like that rich-c: looks like you're looking at about $11.00 Canadian for teh run RobertoS: they WIL waive the $10 activation fee IF i sign uup now.............. Pamela: : ) rich-c: the website should also say where the 407 ends at the moment Pamela: check the map,it will tell you where it ends in the east rich-c: sin e you'll only use it once, the transponder is not a good deal RobertoS: OK, so think the cheap way is better, just AIM and hit the gas Pamela: if you try to come through Toronto anytime after about 2:00 on the 401 Bob, you'll be using the brake, not the gas pedal RobertoS: that sucks don't it? Pamela: big time rich-c: I assume you'll come up through Lansign and cross the bridge at Sarnia/Port Huron Pamela: my recommendation is, if you can come in at around 11:00 am, that's the best time rich-c: I assume you are planning to make it a one-day trip, Bob RobertoS: that's the route Richard Pamela: also, tune your radio to AM 680 which gives you traffic and weather on the 1's every ten minutes rich-c: yes, you shouldn't hit any tough traffic till you [ick up the 401 in London RobertoS: OR windsor way....... how much farther you think it is to go thru windsor Pamela: toss up Bob - from our trip to GR in '02, it's about two hours from GR to Windsor and another four or so to Toronto. rich-c: the northern route leaves you longer in the U.S. - in fact a tank of nice cheap US gads (not I am NOT smart-assing) bought in Port Huron might get you to Whitby Pamela: Add another hour to get from the outskirts of Toronto to Whitby
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changed username to Daniel B RobertoS: GR to Windsor is more like 3 hours methinks Daniel B: hello hello! Pamela: Hi Daniel RobertoS: Daniel !!!!!! Daniel B: Hello Rich, Pam, Robert and friends! :-) rich-c: in fact there isn't much traffic at all by our standars, in the US or Canada to the 401 Pamela: we made it in two - left GR around 11:00 am, were checking into the hotel by shortly after 1:00 in Windsor rich-c: bonjour, Daniel1 RobertoS: ya we have CHEAP gas...went upto $2.50 US this weekend RobertoS: NOT RobertoS: speeders !!!!!
changed username to james james: you people and your time changes rich-c: trust me Robert, by Canadian standards that's cheap Pamela: it's still cheaper than $3.03 a gallon Pamela: I just did the math (yuck) rich-c: hi james and good morning Pamela: James! Pamela: I got your e-mail - thanks RobertoS: sucks then.......going to go thru Sarnia RobertoS: AND fill up at the border Pamela: brb, gonna say hi to my hubby rich-c: smart idea, Bob, much easier on the nerves and pocketbook rich-c: you can see how we're doing at www.torontogasprices.com RobertoS: HI James james: hi pam! glad you got my email. james: thanks so much for your instructions rich-c: sounds like her directions worked, james james: like a charm james: hi roberto, dan RobertoS: HEY, just like we have......grandrapidsgas.com rich-c: I'm most happy to her that rich-c: I assjme you are bacvk home now, james james: that i am rich-c: Bob, are you still selling Adam stuff on eBay? james: still a little jetlagged but not too bad now RobertoS: not right now......but need to put some stuff up i guess rich-c: going west is always easier than going easst RobertoS: prices jump all over....this week somebody is paying $0+ for a PRINTER ONLY RobertoS: $40+ rich-c: OK - I suggested Tom Mackie get in touch with you - he has some unique items for sale RobertoS: like?????? rich-c: remember he's the guy who made the Adam mouse? rich-c: floppies, hard disc, big memory I think, modem, game cartridges, lotsa stuff james: was that the modified 1394 mouse from the c64? RobertoS: ahso RobertoS: trouble is I got so much......and it doesn't sell either rich-c: I haven't a clue james, but he's the only one who offered an Adam mouse for sale rich-c: I know - it wont be ,ong before I give up and feed the dumpster RobertoS: think he made one from possibly the Commie mouse, I have (had) plans to make it and make up 2 of them and they WORK RobertoS: just a limited use on the ADAM for them....basically PowerPaint Pamela: I have to see that - heck, I'll help, Dad! rich-c: does Thomas Electronics ring a bell? RobertoS: yes that too rich-c: them's him RobertoS: ;there were more than a few......one had printer interfaces, another min 64k RobertoS: mini rich-c: I told him about teh mailing list and these chats, and to approach you and Dr.D. directly Pamela: I was thinking about you on the 30th James Pamela: wondering how you were coping with four teenage girls rich-c: well at least in an airplane they can't hide from him Pamela: brb rich-c: daniel, you are very quiet tonight rich-c: all talked out after your session last week? james: i have to feed aiden, i'll be back shortly, though not for long. far too nice outside Daniel B: sorry, it's because i didn't catch the c64 mouse project. Pamela: back rich-c: oh, we were talking about the man who designed a mouse to be used with the Adam Daniel B: hello again pam rich-c: it may have been an adaption of a mouse used with the Commodore 64 Daniel B: ok! RobertoS: a couple wire switches and a power supply and BAM a mouse for the ADAM rich-c: in honesty it was a fascinating toy but not much real use RobertoS: neat trick he did.....................................but a limited use for the ADAM RobertoS: GoDOS was supposed to change everything anduse a mouse like the big boys rich-c: yes, no Adam programs were ever written contemplating a mouse RobertoS: but alas.........GoDOS bombed...to say the least RobertoS: guess it would work good, but had NO memory to sue rich-c: yes, I still have a copy, but it didn't seem to work RobertoS: the program used all the ram RobertoS: don't do much just looks dumb at you rich-c: regrettably, that seemed to be the weakness of all of Sol Swift's programming rich-c: mind you, Logo is good even though your workspace is infinitesmal RobertoS: and ADAMcalc rich-c: far as I know Adamcalc isn't that big a memory hog RobertoS: a lot of Sol's stuff was good....but as Dr D says......spagetti code RobertoS: no. ADAMcalc just uses only 5k to store anything in no matter how big you try to make it rich-c: reminds me - wonder where he is tonight - didn't say anything about being late RobertoS: SO got to be compact Daniel B: right, he didn't say anything about tonight rich-c: and Harvie hasn't shown up either rich-c: james, did I hear you bragging about your weather today? rich-c: test Daniel B: 1..2.. Pamela: james went to feed Aiden Pamela: didn't you see that? rich-c: sorry, my internet traffic light showed nothing going on rich-c: saw it but it didn't register RobertoS: naw it was just RED Richard Pamela: hmmm Pamela: I could make much of that Daniel B: i think i have some ramens somewhere... it's cold here. rich-c: actually when "coasting" it's maroon and yellow RobertoS: heck mine always shows green
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changed username to Harvie Pamela: ta da! Pamela: Hi Harvie RobertoS: that will teach harvie to sulk around, eh???? Harvie: Hello all RobertoS: HI Harvie !!!!! rich-c: hey Harvie, we wsere just wondering where you'd got to Harvie: Got Puter troubles today rich-c: you don't use Zone Alarm as your firewall, Bob? Pamela: hit it again, Harvie Pamela: that should solve it : ) rich-c: Harvie, you Linus users aren't allowed to have3 computer trroubles RobertoS: nope Harvie: I'm tempted rich-c: it makes Tux get all upset ; - ) Harvie: I've had to resort to the XP box (yuch) rich-c: just from curiosity, will X accept the Adam emulator? rich-c: XP Harvie: I haven't tried, when I get the other machine (hard drive) fixed I should test Adamem on this thing rich-c: given how far out you work now, that's likely immaterial Daniel B: hi harvie Harvie: Hi Daniel rich-c: anyway, Harvie, what sort of problems is your 'puter giving you? RobertoS: seem to remember Dr d saying XP will run it RobertoS: don't know for sure though Harvie: I got a new 200 gig hard drive and Win98 won't install on it rich-c: that's why I was asking Harvie, maybe he tried Daniel B: I'm still looking for a job. ubisoft is coming in quebec city and i'm trying to be part of this company. Daniel B: sorry to be quiet rich-c: go for it Daniel - you should have the skills and they are a solid company RobertoS: say WHAT ???? Harvie: Good luck on that Daniel Daniel B: dear harvie, 200 gig can'T be formatted in fat32 (for windows 98), but in ntsc. Daniel B: mtfs RobertoS: oh oh Daniel B: ntfs ... soprry rich-c: I think Win98 does have a size limit over which it won't work, but have no ide what it is Daniel B: arg... problem typing on my keyboard. :-) RobertoS: why the heck can't you format the darn thing any wasy you want?????? rich-c: way the file systems are set up they run out of indexing bits Harvie: I'm going to look at Ranish Partition Manager, I only want half for windows anyway rich-c: hey Daniel - given up my Guiness tonight to try St.Ambroise Biere Noire - any recommendations? Daniel B: I only take one beer in my entire life. i can't help you rich-c: trist, c'est dommage Daniel B: but harvie, why you buy a new hd 200gig size? rich-c: I'll guess - he got it incredibly cheap, right? Harvie: I needed a new HD so I thought I would get a Big one, My nephew loads a lot of games on it Harvie: $139.00 rich-c: yeah, well that should hold the whole Ubisoft catalogue and still not even challenge a small partition RobertoS: that's cheap Harvie: Cheaper than the 120 gig I had rich-c: which reminds me, Harvie - George has a computer flea market out at his warehouse Saturday and and computer show up at Thornhill Community Centre Sunday Pamela: I'm starting to zone folks so I'm gonna head out Harvie: I also have a lot of Autocad drawings
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changed username to Guy B. Harvie: Hi James RobertoS: hiya Guy rich-c: goodnight daughter Daniel B: in the internet, fat32 is limited into 32gig partition. Guy B.: Greetings. I'm talking with Karen on the phone. So, hang on. Pamela: before I go Dad, any suggestions as to where to get a 56K PC modem for a laptop? Pamela: Hi and bye, Guy RobertoS: EBAY Guy B.: Bye Pam RobertoS: pcmcia slot one rich-c: no, my surplus one is 28.8 - wait till I get a new laptop Pamela: okay. I'll talk to you in person soon. Pamela: Guy, say hi to Karen for me : ) Pamela: I'm outta here. Gnite, all Daniel B: ok, i have the answer... windows98 is using fat32 and it's limit for the hd is max 128gig rich-c: do it before Sunday, in case we go to the show Pamela: okay Dad. Kerpoof.
Pamela left chat session Daniel B: in the msdn Daniel B: The 127.5-GB limit on FAT32 volumes imposed in Windows 98 no longer applies to Windows Me. Harvie: Pam, I have a Xircom 56k - 10/100 you can have rich-c: she's gone, Harvie - do send her a message - she's tempest at tamcotec Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. Harvie: Daniel, fdisk sees it as ~66 gig Daniel B: The largest possible file for a FAT32 volume is 4 GB minus 1 byte. Daniel B: it looks like he cuts the hd size in 2. Daniel B: or 3 Daniel B: 2 possibilities : windows 98 or your bios. rich-c: Harvie, what OS are you using on the cranky computer? Linux? Harvie: Even on an 80gig WD drive it reported the size wrong but partitioned properly Daniel B: some problems are bios/hardware. rich-c: that is definitely weird, Harvie Harvie: Dual boot Win98 and Mandrake10.0 rich-c: of course 98 is one of the Windows versions that don't want to cohabit with any other system Daniel B: in theory based on the msdn, the new hd is too big for windows98 Harvie: Not realy rich, MS fdisk is a piece of crap rich-c: well, I use System Commander and Partition Magic to mess things up real good Harvie: I think if I format half of it fat32 I should be ok Daniel B: windows 98 : hd maximum 127.5 gig, 32gig partitions. rich-c: well, if FAT32 works to 128 gig, 100 should be OK rich-c: but Daniel, on a partitioned dual-boot system Win98 should see the HD as "only" 100 gig Daniel B: if the hd is 100gig fat32, yes. if it's not fat32, no. Harvie: I have had a 60 gig partition Daniel james: ok, mouths have been fed, diapers changed Guy B.: Speaking of booting different OS's. I'm going to test two different hard drive configurations using a portable HD enclosure. I found an old hard drive and going to install PC-DOS 6.3 on it. Harvie: We are all proud of you James james: lol Daniel B: super james! Daniel B: :-) james: i really can'T stay long. yesterday was miserable and i spent too much time cooped up james: dan, i'm turning on my linux server now Daniel B: fantastic james: what would you like your username to be? rich-c: so james, how is your weather now? Daniel B: anything except "mochi mochi" james: sunny and around 20 james: i'll be outside very, very soon Harvie: 20c or 20f? rich-c: nice, we're near zero overnight, 10-15 daytime james: dan, do you want "dan", "daniel", "newcoleco", "colecoshop", what would you like? james: c rich-c: sap is running and the sugaring off is underway james: not sure where we are at night since i've been crashing out around 10 these days from jetlag james: we were at the sugarbush james: in arnprior, near ottawa. in fact, i was on the news :D rich-c: bet that went over big with the girls! Daniel B: i think i can remember them all, james. james: was neat james: dan, which one? i'm not making all of them Daniel B: simply daniel will be ok rich-c: yes, the whole school and all their buddies will be hearing about that james: simplydaniel. ok :D Harvie: "Danny Boy" :-) Daniel B: <:o) <- clown james: Daniel Bienvenu (no e at the end, right?) Daniel B: yes, no e james: ok, do you have ssh? i do not support telnet for logins james: get a program called "putty" Daniel B: i will get the program then james: do you have my ip? Daniel B: actually, no. Daniel B: you can send me info by email james: sure rich-c: yes, remember teh chat is logged so the spammers can pick it up Harvie: Someone is calling, must go, Goodnight All Daniel B: good night harvie! rich-c: night, Harvie - take care
Harvie left chat session Guy B.: Bye Harvie james: who's left? rich-c: still haven't had Ron check in tonight Daniel B: 2005-02-20 SECURITY HOLE, fixed in PuTTY 0.57 rich-c: oh, for all the Windows users, MS put out five critical updates today james: ok dan, je t'ai envoye un corriel avec les renseignements Daniel B: parfait james: guess i should get the new version too james: ok, i have to tell my router to point to a new machine on my lan, so i'm going to drop out for a bit when it reboots rich-c: seems these ones are pretty major and apply through WinXP - SP2 - like, EVERYTH>ING Daniel B: courrier reçu rich-c: that was quick, Daniel
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changed username to james james: i think i'm a clone now rich-c: rebooted now, james? Daniel B: hehehe james: had to reboot the router rich-c: yes, and I'm not sure which is the real one RobertoS: THROW the bum OUT james: dan, can you try http://18.104.22.168 and see if the apache screen comes up? rich-c: OK, which one? RobertoS: not sure Daniel B: Si vous lisez cette page, c'est que les propriétaires de ce domaine viennent d'installer le serveur web Apache avec succès. james: parfait james: ainsi, essayer: http://22.214.171.124/test.php rich-c: got it on the first go, james - nice work rich-c: you are not a www. address? Daniel B: rich, i started windows update and i've got 3 critical update to do... mostly for the service pack Daniel B: My PHP Test Page james: dns is a beast that i have yet to slay rich-c: yes, I downloaded and installed them this afternoon, soon as I heard about it rich-c: the press release sounded sort of urgent james: i want to host several domains, so i need to figure it out eventually james: dan, you should also try ftp rich-c: will you be a .com, .org, .jp. edu or something else? james: and ssh. both ftp and ssh servers should be up and running though Daniel B: your test page give the php configuration. potentially dangerous, but it's usefull to do the php pages. james: i'll have the domain for colecoshop - colecoshop.com, my school: yokota-eikaiwa.com and a couple of others all running off this box james: good point james: think i'll take that down now that i know it's working Daniel B: downloading the critical updates... 27 minutes rich-c: I thought that the .com addresses weere a bit pricey compared with some others james: nope james: and much cheaper than .jp james: hmm.. dan.. i need to figure out how to add your web directory.. rich-c: really? that's surprising. For cheap, one of my buddies is runing .ws on one server and .cc on another Daniel B: my web directory? Daniel B: oh! james: right now you can'T go to http://../~daniel james: hmm james: none of them work. i have to figure out how to set this up in apache Daniel B: exact, I can't access to ~daniel or even daniel Daniel B: i hope you give the rights to read the files for everyone in my web directory Daniel B: include the right to access to my web directory for everyone james: well i think the problem is that it doesn't exist yet james: let me check something james: more to learn i see :D too bad i couldn't afford the books i needed when i was in canada. Daniel B: oh! did you give the right for everyone to execute my "daniel" folder? james: i don't think so Daniel B: at the university, we had to do this to let the internet access to my sub-directory with my web page. james: yeah, i'm still working on permissions james: dan, for security reasons, i will send you a private message now Daniel B: ok Daniel B: critical update done... rich-c: that was quick, Daniel, considering the site must be jammed rich-c: Microsoft must have some unbelievable server bandwidth RobertoS: gonna hit the road now gang. work the problems out James & Daniel........to all a GOOD NIGHT !!!!!!
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