Harvie: Hello rich rich-c: Hi Harv, how's it going? rich-c: enjoying the rain? Harvie: Not so bad that it can't get worse :) Harvie: Is it raining? rich-c: yes, I'll wsecond that! rich-c: here? not this minute, but it has been much of the afternoon
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changed username to james rich-c: good morning, james Harvie: Hello James james: good morning/evening to you all rich-c: so how are things tomorrow? james: sunny it would seem james: how is everyone? Harvie: Hunky-Dory here Harvie: How are the wee ones? james: they keep me busy rich-c: that's an evasive understatement ; - ) james: let's just say that when they're both finally in school i'll have a lot more free time
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changed username to Ginger Harvie: Hi Ginger Ginger: hello gents rich-c: well, who have we here? Erin? Ginger: indeed it is Ginger: :-) Ginger: hi Uncle Richard rich-c: any particular reason for teh choice of that handle? Ginger: not really...just felt kinda kicky rich-c: the final arrival of a bit of cool is getting to you, is it? Ginger: I liked my hot island but the breeze is nice Ginger: would be even better if it was blowing into the apartment
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changed username to Daniel B Daniel B: hello rich-c: after a bunch of 30° days we Daniel B: hi james, rich, ginger and harvie rich-c: will take all we caqn geet Harvie: Hi Daniel Ginger: hi Daniel rich-c: salut, Daniel, ca va? Daniel B: how are you today? Daniel B: je vais bien, merci! rich-c: much cooler, at last 8 = ) james: hi dan rich-c: well, everywhere except under the collar... james: what's got you steamed up, rich? rich-c: I have been configuring my new laptop rich-c: it's XP wth which I am unfamiliar rich-c: and I had to get all new security programs before going on th3e net james: i don't care for xp myself rich-c: and XP is a bitch to configure anyway rich-c: I'm a lot more comfortable at the moment at the desktop with WIn98 rich-c: finally with the help of my ISP I got the laptop online this afternoon Ginger: Harvie...are going to the convention? Harvie: I hope to, one way or another Ginger: very cool rich-c: you don't have to go for all; you can go for s3lected days (as I will) Ginger: I haven't spoken to Pam on this yet but that may be the opportunity to get that modem card from you.....not sure her schedule for getting out to you before then Harvie: Sounds good to me Ginger: coolio rich-c: with luck she'll be on anytime now; she hasn't said otherwise Ginger: Rich is going to be a bit late tonight rich-c: more end of term stuff?
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changed username to Pamela Ginger: nope, the girls wanted him to go see Star Wars rich-c: hjk daughter Harvie: Hello Pam Pamela: good evening Ginger: he is currently in the middle of that computer sim course james: rich is gonna be tired. he tells me he's been up since 3 a.m. Ginger: hi Pam rich-c: we were just discussing when you can take Rin out to fetch the modem Pamela: I see - discussing my taxi services : ) james: we've been talking about the new dr. who and corresponding a little by email Ginger: exactly :-) james: hi pam! Ginger: that and cat services Ginger: hehe Pamela: hey james james: how's it going? Ginger: the family support group that you are :-) Pamela: i got my mouth full Ginger: hehe rich-c: makes your fingers sticky, does it? ; -) Ginger: yes Rich has been up since 3 again...sigh
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changed username to brian Pamela: well it's hard to eat and type Ginger: and likely wired for sound rich-c: whats this? a brian? I should know who that is brian: i came on once a couple weeks agoa james: he said he had a lot of prep work to do for his course rich-c: right - knew there was something familiar - welcome back Daniel B: hi pam. Ginger: yeah, and he seems to be doing it day by day Daniel B: hi brian! Pamela: Rin, any trip out to Harvie's will have to wait till after the weekend since Diamond Transmission currently has custody of my car, and it's a trailer weekend Ginger: luckily it's almost second nature to him Pamela: bonsoir, Danile Pamela: oops, Daniel Pamela: there, that's better rich-c: what is the verdict on the tranny, Pam? Pamela: still have to bail after about 15minutes to get my laundry Ginger: I figured as much...I was just telling Harvie that worst came to worst it may be the convention weekend Pamela: it needs fixing rich-c: big fixing or little fixing? Pamela: dunno for sure yet, didn't hear from Julio today brian: hi daniel rich-c: still, given teh mjleag3e on it, if it's sensibly repairable you're ahead of thde game Pamela: yeah, i'll just be broke for the rest of my natural life rich-c: hey, you got off real easy on the engine job - count your blessings brian: who here can give me the lowdown on adding a hard drive to my adam? rich-c: well, the first problem is to find one, brian Pamela: easy is relative, since I'm not independently wealthy rich-c: there are two or three interfaces james: talk to rich, brian brian: where do i get an interface board, and then can i just use an ide hardrive Pamela: speaking of which, got a couple grand you can loan me Erin? Pamela: : ) rich-c: two were from MjkcroInnovations
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changed username to Guy B. Ginger: not off hand, sawwy brian: oh the powermate? Pamela: shucks Guy B.: Greetings!!!!! Harvie: Hello Guy Pamela: greetings Guy Ginger: hi Guy rich-c: allo, Guy, how's Chicago Guy B.: Cool and cloudy as of this moment. rich-c: and loving every minute of it, right? Pamela: and wow, am I glad Guy B.: Better than what we had the last two weeks. Daniel B: hi Guy! Pamela: on top of everything else, our LR a/c died last week
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changed username to Dr.D. rich-c: anyway brian, I don't know where either of the MI interfaces might be had, now Guy B.: I sent my payment to Dale this week. Daniel B: hi Dr.D Harvie: Hi Doc Guy B.: Hi Dr. D Pamela: Hi Rich Ginger: hi Rich <hugs> Dr.D.: Hi folks, got back from the movie. rich-c: in the event he shows up tonight or something you could ask Scott Gordon if there are any around Dr.D.: Hi Sweetie <hugs> rich-c: it was his father Mark who built them Dr.D.: Pouring rain here, I am soaked. Guy B.: We missed that here Dr. D. rich-c: hello Doc - sorry I was preoccupied as you cqame in : = ( Dr.D.: No prob, Richard. Harvie: I had some MI cards and components, I'll have to dig into my parts department and see if any are left Dr.D.: It is nice and cool though, very refreshing. rich-c: we were just discussing where an Adam hard drive setup might be found brian: did this allow you to use any ide harddrive Dr.D.: Does Ginger have good news from the Premier? Pamela: Erin, you didn't tell me - what worked on your a/c? Harvie: Yes Ginger: no news yet Dr.D.: Sigh. Ginger: and the stove was a great idea Pam Dr.D.: HD, I think Robt. is the fellow to ask. rich-c: but only up to 64 MB whic is all teh Adam will support Dr.D.: Hi James! Dr.D.: Like all the Doctor Whos? james: hello. sorry, was just changing a diaper Dr.D.: hehe Dr.D.: need a transmat for that rich-c: I believe Michael has one of those setups George & Herman made, and wants to sell it Harvie: When you format the drive you just lie about the c h s james: he's a good 4 pounds lighter now Dr.D.: A Mini-Wini is a rarity. Pamela: Erin, was it the fuse, or the cord? rich-c: all Brian needs is one, in working condition Dr.D.: couple kilos of poop is good for any baby Pamela: ewww, James : ) james: sorry if that was tmi :P rich-c: TMI, I'd say brian: whats a mini wini? I thought that was a motorhome.....:-) rich-c: oh, Pam, I have the latest Hub for you Dr.D.: Miniature Winchester drive Ginger: both were shot...so I just bypassed blowing another fuse and used the stove to avoid the problem Pamela: recycle it Dad, I don't have time to read it rich-c: not that you'll be buying that sort of stuff anytime sdoon Ginger: when we get the chance I'll replace both the fuse and the cord for you and thank you Dr.D.: WInchester being a late 1970s term for a hard drive Pamela: glad to have helped - but I should have come down to your place and camped out for the last week james: so dr, you must be pretty tired Ginger: did you get the parts you requested? Pamela: yes, they came in and the bedroom a/c was all that saved us from insanity Pamela: knowing we could sleep cool was a lifesaver rich-c: Rin, if your Minister gets shuffled, will you move with him or stay with the department? Ginger: I'd opt to stay or go wherever he does Pamela: okay, my laundry just went ding - be back in about five minutes rich-c: no decsion yet then - he's rumoured up for a sideways promotion Dr.D.: BRB, getting ice cream Ginger: it's all very tight lipped....I have to say that the article in the Star was the first I heard about my guy
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left chat session Guy B.: Hi Daniel james: lol rich-c: another reboot, Daniel? rich-c: brian, you might send an email to email@example.com to see if he has a salable hard drive (Mini-Wini) brian: ok thanks i'll do that. brian: i see a floppy was for sale on ebay rich-c: when Dr. D. comes back he can tell you the pros and cons of that setup brian: i assume those are easier to come by rich-c: one of the Micro Innovations ones, or an original? Dr.D.: back Daniel B: hi Guy brian: original 190k Daniel B: no, not another reboot. Daniel B: i did enough reboot last night rich-c: if it was 190K it was for a TI 99/4a - Adam are 160K brian: sorry 160k Dr.D.: Always drop out for strawberry ice cream with extra fresh strawberries on top...and Hershey's chocolate syrup. Ginger: mmmm rich-c: I'm surprised there is one still left working - trust it has a money-back guarentee? Dr.D.: My Mini-Wini still works. brian: nope sold as is Ginger: Ontario strawberries available now....maybe should try that soon Dr.D.: The fancy internal all-in-one I made. rich-c: not in yet at our grocery store, Rin Ginger: hmmmm rich-c: then they should pay you to take it - likely won't work and can't be fixed brian: really? what usually goes on them? Ginger: I think I may pop over to the farmer's market on Saturday and see what goods they have rich-c: they have a hotspot (power supply) on the card that fries things Dr.D.: The Coleco drives always run hot...very poorly-heatsinked rectifier section. rich-c: also, the innards are rather corrosion prone, and need frequent cleaning Dr.D.: Poor little 1-amp 3-terminal regulators with 3 amps running through them. Dr.D.: I meant regulator not rectifier brian: come to think of it, i had one in the 90's that quit working. I ended up tossing it Daniel B: after one reboot i didn't have access to my "desktop", after a second reboot it doesn't boot and says "windows security problem, you must reboot", after a third reboot (in safe mode this time) i did a scandisk on all my drives, at the fourth reboot windows didn't recognized the sound card, at the fifth reboot (in safe mode again) i looked in the system information and the sound material was clearly installed, i taked this time to add two missing vxd files, and finaly, another reboot and all things seems to work fine again. Dr.D.: But the rectifier is tiny discrete diodes, too, not a full-wave bridge IC.
Ginger changed username to Rin-berry rich-c: when you figure out how to fix them, Rich, let everybody know! Dr.D.: Better circuit design! Dr.D.: Forced cold air Dr.D.: Frigid unheated winter basement rich-c: I have at leasst five u/s Adam floppy drives - in a nice cold basement rich-c: waiting for any offers - as is james: are these standard coleco drives, rich? rich-c: absolutely, james - I actuallu suspect two of them merely need a very deep cleaning rich-c: all I have to do is figure out whre I put the power supplkies Pamela: that could be a challenge, Dad : ) Pamela: I"m back james: well my mi drive is dead. i think the controller card is fine. it sounds like it's just dead mechanically. finding a replacement genuine 360k pc drive could be troublesome though Daniel B: sorry but i have to quit for a moment. we need the phone here. be right back! Dr.D.: Any 386 or 486 James. rich-c: Pam, your mother says if you see any strawberries on your trip to the trailer, plese get the usual james: see you soon, dan Dr.D.: Or 286.. Dr.D.: 8086 is likely to be full-height. james: 5 1/4" yeah, even most 486s that i've come across that had 5 1/4" had the 1.2mb drives Pamela: noted, Dad (also planned : ) rich-c: I even managed to put one in my Athlon 1600 desktop james: guess i could poke around ebay or recycling stores rich-c: just about any old DOSbox will have one, though you likely need vthe double density only version james: exactly rich-c: I believe early on some offered teh option of double or quad density - I know some 3.5" did james: and those are hard to find around here, because at that time in japan, it was all nec crap, and it's very non-compatible Dr.D.: Find some Sanyo Dr.D.: MBC-555 Dr.D.: It had dual half-height 180K or 320K Dr.D.: An early MS-DOS compatible, not IBM BIOS compatible :-) Dr.D.: I have one...it was my Ph.D. lab's first non-Mac PC...I got it from the dumpster. rich-c: how about drives meant for other classic computers, like the TI 99/4a? Dr.D.: Many old memories typing my first journal paper on it :-) Pamela: we were talking recently about learning to type - I learned on an electric typewriter Dr.D.: I see now that Rin has become a fruit. Pamela: and had to practice on the old manual at home Rin-berry: tee hee Pamela: who are you calling a fruit? Rin-berry: hey rich-c: I never did learn - I am still search, discover, and land 8 = ( Pamela: she's a nut! Dr.D.: I learned in school in 10th grade on a business upright Remington manual. Rin-berry: :-) Rin-berry: lol Dr.D.: Columbus method, Richard Pamela: seek and ye shall find? Harvie: "Hunt and Peck" :) rich-c: still have the old Smith-Corona portable, too - and it still works Rin-berry: point and peck but with 3...and sometimes 4 fingers :-) Rin-berry: that's me Pamela: well I know James is a touch typist james: i try :P james: i also learned in gr. 10 but probably on something a little more modern than what rich used rich-c: at least the Adam keyboardd is good for typing on - one of the best Pamela: despite having a fairly good rate of wpm, the backspace key is still my best friend james: but they were electric typewriters rich-c: our first Adam was our first electric typewriter Pamela: and it didn't like me any better than the *bleep* typewriter rich-c: in fact, we bought it because we figured it was a typewriter that worked like a typewriter should james: you guys think this would do the trick? james: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44959&item=5207335867&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Dr.D.: When you *bleep* at ADAMs, they don't work...just ask Herman and George Pamela: I did a lot of bleeping at it in the early days Dr.D.: tsk tsk Pamela Pamela: quietly of course, that was before I spoiled my parents image of me Dr.D.: Bleeping never helps Pamela: there was also a lot of " Daaaad! Help!" Rin-berry: sometimes is a stress reliever though Pamela: it made me feel better : ) brian: I have to head home now, but thank you all for the disk drive info! Dr.D.: ThanWe for stopping by Brian! brian: good night
brian left chat session rich-c: night Brian Guy B.: Of course, I have an Eve 320K drive that has a fan over the vents. It gets hot and if I don't have that little fan over that, then the drive won't work until cools off. Dr.D.: All done diapering James? rich-c: james, that drive from Quebec looks credible if it works rich-c: but you still have the problem of the interface card Harvie: Well, an hour at this computer is about all my body can stand, Goodnight folks Pamela: so where is the illustrious Mr. Wick this evening? rich-c: OK Harvie, take care, catch you next week Rin-berry: bye Harvie Dr.D.: I read your question Richard and was wondering why you were asking James about a drive from Quebec...I was thinking, shouldn't that be Daniel? Pamela: g'nite Harvie - we'll call about picking up the modem - if worst, maybe July 10th when I'll be in Brampton anyway rich-c: unless I'm watching teh football game! Dr.D.: <smirk> Guy B.: Bye Harvie rich-c: season opener is 7 p.m. on the 22nd - BAD timing
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<undefined> changed username to Pamela james: ok, so we all got bumped? Pamela: there, we're back Pamela: looks like james: well apparently my ebay account has been suspended. they say i'm past due rich-c: WHO PULLED THE PLUG????? Pamela: t'weren't me
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: I assume that's just a phishing email, james? Guy B.: Wonder what happen there?
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changed username to Ronald rich-c: welcome back, Guy, balance to follow 8 = ) Guy B.: Hi Ron Ronald: Hi! james: about to buy that drive, when it told me my account was suspended rich-c: greeting Ronald Pamela: hey Ron Ronald: Everybody well? Pamela: your timing is excellent - we all just got dumped rich-c: you were on eBay itself? Pamela: hot! Ronald: so I hear rich-c: we've had it cool since last night, Ron - and wet Pamela: finally cooled off yesterday rich-c: the garden is back to growing from wilting Ronald: aha..... a little reliev Ronald: relief rich-c: james, how does one get overdue with eBay? Ronald: brb..... forgot to take my pills rich-c: oops - which pills is Ron on, again? diabetes? Pamela: not sure Dad Ronald: yes rich-c: where are Rich and ERin - over on the backup? Pamela: ??? Pamela: dunno Ronald: Just sent my cheque to Dale today rich-c: I know the feeling - I take so many these days I rattle when I walk Ronald: keeping the pharmasist in good situation, you know Ronald: booked a Westjet (redeye) via Calgary Ronald: leaves Wed evening, gets into Terminal 3 at 6:35 am Thursday rich-c: I'm lucky - in Ontario OHIP picks up the tab (except for dispensing fee) Pamela: 6:35 am??? oh, ick Ronald: Returning the following Wednesday. rich-c: there is such a things as a 6.35 a.m. om Thursdays? ; - ) Ronald: Twas a seat sale - just over $600 return Pamela: once a week Dad Ronald: Travelling Thursday to Monday would have cost over 900 return james: yeah, i was on ebay, i know the phishing emails Pamela: twice, if you're flying east rich-c: and you won't get extra sleep either - Westjet are famous for being on time james: well apparently if your credit card is declined. i can't see that happening though, my cards have always been in good standing Ronald: well ..... if I'm dead when I get there, so be it Pamela: just take a nap - it'll help Ronald: yep rich-c: OK, put a ticket on your vest button telling them to call me - just send burial instructions before you leave Pamela: hmm note to self: don't reverse the ceiling fan without cleaning it first Ronald: Last time I took a red-eye, I got sat next to a Catholic Priest who had just lost a family member, and he wanted to talk Ronald: maybe this time I'll get sat next to someone I can ignor Ronald: true Pam rich-c: by the clock, you'll get here about an hour after you leave there, right? plus grond time at Calgary, of course Pamela: I'm surprised you aren't all ROTFL Ronald: something like that james: one would think that even if an account were suspended you could at least view transactions without being able to buy and sell Pamela: I think you can James, if you don't sign in james: and they don't even give an email contact. like i'm going to contact them by post rich-c: do you have a Japanese issuing bank on your credit card, james? Ronald: ground time at Calgary is most of the evening. I get in there about 7 pm, and we dont leave for YYZ until just after midnight james: i forget which card i'm using james: i have two canadian cards and one japanese Ronald: plastic? rich-c: some of the US intermediaries have trouble with Canadian cards, let alone other furriners rich-c: brb - beer tyime james: alright, i can go to the "My ebay" section.. give me a few minutes to see if i can figure out what these boneheads have done Ronald: oh.... you're talking e-bay....sorry Ronald: I must learn how to sell Ronald: haven't tried it yet james: np. sec.. Pamela: so what are you going to do in Calgary for five hours? Ronald: read.... play with laptop, play with HP handheld..... phone my brother..... watch girls Ronald: not necessarily in that order rich-c: if he's thinking, sleep in teh departurs lounge with his alarm set for 11.30 Ronald: that too Rich Guy B.: That will pass the time. Pamela: ah yes, girl watching - the universal male constant Ronald: Guy, when are you getting into Toronto the Good? james: ok, my account has been suspended because of a $2.63 outstanding listing fee which those boneheads didn't charge Ronald: silly buggers Pamela: for boneheads, read *bleep*? rich-c: yes, they can be awfully stupid - had my own fight with them a few months back Pamela: Ron, I don't think Guy has booked his flight yet Ronald: ah... thanks Pam Ronald: was contemplating renting a car at the airport, and since I'm going to be there early, could pick up whoever wants to go east rich-c: one if my chat board cronuies was talking about using priceline, today - got VERY satisfactory results Guy B.: I will be the weekend. Ronald: oh Guy, so much for that idea Pamela: you mean booking Guy? rich-c: besides, there's no point in leaving the airport much before 10 a.m. anyway - unless you're a connoisseur of traffic jams Ronald: good point Rich Guy B.: I have a saved Itinerary and I would be coming into Toronto in the early afternoon. Ronald: if the beastie has reclining seats, I'll park somewhere nearby Ronald: and zzzzz Pamela: if you can manage it, traverse the 401 around 10:30 or 11:00 am - the best time to travel across the city Ronald: point taken...... sounds like a fine idea rich-c: haven't been into teh jazzy new terminal yet - but assume like all airports, chain your luggage to you while you sleep rich-c: or check it Pamela: and just getting out of the airport and onto the 401 will wake you up, believe me Ronald: yep Ronald: I know... Last time I did that, I was with a taxi driver..... it was not fun rich-c: in fact if you can get off before the nervous breakdown, we're off exit 365 Pamela: now *that's* scary Ronald: indeed it was james: who's flying where? rich-c: oh no, survival rates are MUCH higher if you're in the back seat Ronald: me..... Comox to Tarana Ronald: and (hopefully) return james: for the con? james: lol Ronald: yessir rich-c: Guy too, we think - Thurs July 14th for Adamcon james: we've been looking at real estate in your neck of the woods. nothing serious, just browsing Ronald: whose neck? Ronald: my neck? Pamela: to what purpose James? james: ron's neck. no way you could pay me enough to live in toronto Pamela: I happen to like living here Ronald: prices going up here - but you can still get in james: not saying it's a bad place. i just don't go for big cities Ronald: normal Comox Box now going for 250k Ronald: give or take james: yeah, saw that Ronald: back in January it was 210k Guy B.: I'm beginning to plan for next year's, so watch my webpage after this one is over. Pamela: any hotel ideas yet Guy? Ronald: good for you Guy. Good Lord willin' I'll be there Pamela: and oh yeah, US shopping. Book a week rich-c: it's OK james, you couldn't afford Toronto now. The house next door to me is selling for $1.1 million Guy B.: Jeanene and I are looking around the Oakbrook Terrace area, which is about 10 minutes from O'Hare and it's close to the expressways and tollways. Pamela: easy access to the El, Guy? Pamela: HOW MUCH???? Ronald: good. I get to watch the aircraft coming and going Guy B.: The Blue Line runs to Forest Park, but I can pickup anyone from there. Ronald: I love aircraft james: holy crap
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changed username to Daniel B james: what's yours valued at, rich? rich-c: O'Hared's too deep into the city - get way off teh southeast side so all the folks driving from the east don't have to contend with your traffic Pamela: you can say that again James Ronald: Salut Daniel Daniel B: Sorry to be so long rich-c: welcome back Daniel james: ok, now i can buy that drive for $5.99 u.s. rich-c: they'd pay $350 - 400K for the right to tear it down Daniel B: we needed the phone, but after i saw some news on tv like the earthquake-tsunami alert and other things Guy B.: Midway is the other airport. Ronald: you got it straightened out James? james: i think it'll do the trick james: yeah, morons james: i mean ebay, not you guys :P Ronald: gross inefficiency once again rears its ugly head james: ron, do you plan on staying out in comox? Daniel B: hi Ron. Ronald: yes, as long as they'll have me.... although later when I'm unable to sit up and take nousishment, my son wants me in Vancouver Ronald: I will not think about that Ronald: nourishment...?? james: well hopefully that's a ways off yet rich-c: I reckon that will be some way down the road, Ron - you're much younger than I am Ronald: who knows.... yes... one would hpe Pamela: let's put it this way Ron - it better be Ronald: As long as I have a choice... Comox is it james: dan, sais tu ou se retrouve mascouche? rich-c: way the medical research is going now, you could end up breaking the century mark Daniel B: pas vraiment, non Ronald: with my lifestyle? naw james: my guess is that well off people from my generation have a chance at pushing beyond 120 or 150 rich-c: I just got a new road atlas, james - I'll have a look - brb Pamela: I'm not sure I'd want to live that long james: if i were sharp and healthy sure. if it were 50 years tied up to tubes, no thanks Ronald: good point Pam. Ronald: exactly James james: anyway, we'll see. mortal is mortal, adding 50 years doesn't change the end result james: sorry to be so morbid Pamela: lots of things to think about when it comes to quality of life at that stage Pamela: well, as Dad is fond of saying, life is a terminal disease rich-c: it'/s off the island, n.e. from Laval, north of Lachainie Ronald: :) rich-c: basically Montreal metro area james: thanks Daniel B: vous parlez de la vie comme si c'était un "mauvais moment ŕ passer" ou quoi? je ne comprends pas bien. rich-c: that is true, but they are making enormpus progress on medical matters right now Ronald: brb james: non, pas de tout, mais le fait qu'on pourrait etender la vie d'une dixaine d'annees ne change pas le resultat qu'on est mort le jour qu'on nait rich-c: we just accept, Daniel, that for now no man lives forever rich-c: but you will likely live a great deal longer than the elders here rich-c: in fact you will have problems finding some cause to die of ; - ) james: i just thought of something not so good though.. rich-c: for people born in the year I 2was, the average age is dead - I'm in the surviving minority james: that's a *damn* long time to spend married Daniel B: and you really think that the life could be better if we stay alive forever? Pamela: well the record is 80 years and two weeks James - so you have a tough record to beat rich-c: well, the first 50 years are the hardest, james (speaking from experience) james: oh, i'm not trying to beat it. trust me on that one james: lol rich-c: not forever, daniel, but longer than your elders james: sad, but in this day and age, the fact i've been married 8 years means i've gone beyond expectations already Pamela: what I find strange is that in my head, I've been married for 16 years, but it's only 1.5 on paper rich-c: hey, Pam and Russell lived togehter for 1`5 years before they even got married james: miyuki and i have been together for 10 Pamela: so unless we count from the beginning of our cohabitation, we'll likely not make the 50th mark rich-c: you're barely starting, james james: you don't have to rub it in :P rich-c: Guy, did we ever find out when your plane gets in here for the 'con? Pamela: he hasn't booked yet, Dad rich-c: isn't that leaving it a little late (as in expensive)? rich-c: or is now the time they start panicing and offer seat sales? james: guy, you're in michigan, right? Ronald: no that's Bob and Judy james: oops Ronald: Guy is in Chicago Pamela: Guy's in Illinois james: well which is it, chicago or illinois? :P Pamela: speaking of which, where are the Slopsemas tonite? Pamela: both you goose james: heh heh james: hook, line and sinker Pamela: my brains are fried from a week of plus 30 temps Ronald: better get back to this continent James james: in good time Pamela: the cat just walked out into the hall and is now whining because he can't see me james: we might finally get some rain here. we've had maybe a week of rain in the last 75 days rich-c: meow at him Pamela: ya gotta wonder sometimes Ronald: I have a friend who thinks that Vancouver Island should be home to about 5 million people, and wants that to happen soon Guy B.: Well folks, going to call it the night. Will see you all next week. Daniel B: it's my brithday this saturday... 30 years old. it's supposed to be the "blues" period or something? rich-c: we had quite a drought building till the last 36 huours - now we're wet Ronald: then watch real estate prices Pamela: Daniel, 30 was the best year for me Pamela: I'll let you know about forty in a couple of weeks rich-c: see you Guy Pamela: night, Guy Daniel B: bye guy! Ronald: night Guy.. be well Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: don't rmember 30, it was too long ago rich-c: besides, times were different then Ronald: 30 was 4 years married. Jeff was 3 Pamela: yeah, that was BP Ronald: we had our trials Pamela: Before Pamela james: 5 million people on vancouver island? rich-c: 30 was five years married, but still five years BP james: uhmm... "no". Ronald: yes... that's what he says Ronald: we're no where near that now james: that would not be a good thing james: send 'em to toronto :D Ronald: Victoria would be about 700,000, and the rest of us maybe 300,000 rich-c: I think he's out of his skull - more people you do not need Pamela: thanks, but we're overflowing now Ronald: I want to build a fence around the Island. Anyone who hasn't been here for 10 years would be asked to leave rich-c: 5 million is half the population of Ontario james: i agree that canada as a whole would do well to triple our current population, but we need to start making other places for people to go rich-c: a much better idea, Ron Ronald: I think so james: toronto is big enough for sure Pamela: agreed James rich-c: I do not think Canada needs any more people; we have too many now Pamela: Toronto is so big now that places like Orangeville are becoming bedroom communities james: have you annexed peterborough yet? rich-c: Orangeville? even Barrie! Ronald: was in Vancouver this past weekend...... I only go to remind myself why I don't live there Pamela: not yet, but we're working on it rich-c: get the tongue out of the cheek, james, we're getting there far too fast Pamela: at least one of my former coworkers came in from Kitchener every day Ronald: had to help with planning for Jeff/Francesca's wedding james: vancouver too. montreal is plenty big and ottawa is growing at a breakneck pace still Pamela: how's the planning coming Ron? Ronald: as in pay for the wedding cake james: at one million, ottawa can still grow, but it's no small town anymore Pamela: and how big is this wedding? Ronald: think they've got it pretty well done now Pam. looks like maybe 50 - 60 guests. Not that big really Pamela: bigger than my 10 people, but large or small, the planning is the same rich-c: no comment Pamela: its all in the details Ronald: yes Pamela: i'm really proud of myself - we pulled it off in just four months Ronald: I've taken to carrying my chequebook around with me Pamela: and it all got done - except for the garlic bread rich-c: I thought it was the father of the bride who picked up the tab Pamela: I didnt' hear you volunteering Dad! Ronald: well yes, normally , but in this case there are variations dictated by one thing and another Ronald: actually, the kids have done most of it themselves Pamela: which reminds me - should I bring my album to the con? Ronald: well yes, of course. I have not seen Pamela: what weekend is the wedding Ron? Ronald: July 2 Ronald: the long weekend rich-c: anyway, I have worked over a hot computer too long today Pamela: so you should have your pictures by the convention? rich-c: and I think it is time I packed it in Ronald: I would expect so. Whatever I have I'll bring Pamela: cool : ) Ronald: right Rich.... time for the 'needle and thread' Pamela: g'nite Dad rich-c: so good night, all Pamela: will let you know about the car soon Ronald: nite Rich rich-c: colour me gone Ronald: right
rich-c left chat session Pamela: I still don't know what colour that is james: lol Ronald: transparent - like the invisible man james: so now we're 4? Daniel B: i'm asking to myself the same question about the colour Pamela: about to be three actually, I have to get up extra early tomorrow james: colour him 0xF :D Pamela: without a car, I'm transiting to work and that takes much longer Ronald: ah the great Toronto Transit System james: well you certainly know your way around though. we were at our hotel in very good time Ronald: long may it live Daniel B: i don't know the answer Pamela: well, it's one of those "you cna't get there from here' things Pamela: I'm glad of that James Pamela: as far as the north south lines, I'm pretty good for most stations james: and i may very well use those instructions again next year Ronald: right- remember those from Ottawa james: got a group of six going with me Ronald: you get over pretty well every year James? Pamela: it's the east west stations I don't know that well james: our schedule is a little different, but i do have us flying out of toronto to calgary again and staying the night. likely at the same hotel since that worked well Daniel B: well, after calculating my small budget, i think i can't make it to the adamcon. i really wanted to meet you in person and see the game related presentations by the two Wick. james: pretty close these days. i'll be in ottawa again for my brother's wedding in october Pamela: I'm sorry to hear that Daniel - we were hoping you'd make it Ronald: that would be a good reason james: if it weren't for that, we could have maybe scheduled a july trip and i could have ended up at the con Daniel B: i think there is no way for me to be there and come back with only 200$ Ronald: well James, one of these years you'll make it james: but i can't do march, july and october all in one year. way too much and veyr pricy james: i'm essentially paying for the equivalent of 3 adults on my salary alone Ronald: I guess so eh? Pamela: ouch Ronald: yes, ouch is right Ronald: I have only me james: yeah, case is 80% fare and aiden is 20%, plus we have to get to the airport all the way from out here Ronald: money Pamela: given that we've missed the last two conventions because of budgetary constraints, I fully understand James Ronald: and me the last one james: miyuki' salary is negligible so i pay for everyone. no choice. at least i can write some of it off though james: well vancouver is a bit of a haul too Pamela: what does Miyuki do, James? james: she packs fish at minimum wage in her father's store every morning including sundays. we won't go there as to how i feel about it Daniel B: i can only hope that one day, i will be able to make it, and i hope we will all be able to make it to the adamcon to meet you all in one time to be a very good moment. Pamela: about the fact that she's working, or where she's working? james: the fact she's working every morning, working in a fish store, when she could be using her fluency in english to do much more Pamela: you can solve that Daniel - host a convention. That way, you are guaranteed to see us. Pamela: ah, gotcha james: i'll be in ottawa at this time of year (end of july) in two years. james: for my father's 60th (he's 58 this year) Ronald: hmmm.... wonder how many AUFG types we have still there - I know of 2 or 3 Ronald: probably more were I to look james: so if in two years time it were in toronto or montreal/qc i could go james: we should get in touch with them Pamela: there you go Daniel Ronald: we should consider that Daniel B: ho james, I didn't asked you this question before because i feeled stupid about it, well, my question is about names. how you know if a japanese is a male or a female just by its name? is there a trick or something? Pamela: we can all practice our French on Daniel, and his English on us Ronald: good question Daniel Pamela: it's an excellent question, one I've never thought to ask james: a lot of it is just becoming familiar with names, like in other languages. a person might not know "Jane" is feminine not having studied english james: if you can read the characters that helps - girls' names tend to make use of characters for flowers, seasons, beauty etc (older names anyway) Pamela: here's another question for you James: are Case and Aiden Japanese citizens? james: boys' names would have characters from concepts like strength etc james: case and aiden are dual citizens until they reach 20 Pamela: cool! Ronald: then they have to choose? james: some names can be used for either boys or girls but may be written differently, like "jamie" and "jaime" Daniel B: what are the common names choosed for flowers, seasons, etc.? james: still a little fuzzy on that, but for all intents and purposes yes. thing is, i'm told it's actually quite difficult to lose your canadian citizenship Ronald: would be a difficult choice I would think james: sakura is still popular, the character for "beauty" (mi), snow, hope, chance etc.. also names that end in "-ko" are girls names Daniel B: But I know a girl named Jaime. Ronald: ok Daniel, I've got a name for you..... which is it - male or female? Gaetan Pamela: but having been born there, they won't have to become landed immigrants will they? james: well maybe, just maybe in 20 years this won't be such a bass akwards place and they'll have dual citizenship agreemetns with a few countreis Pamela: Gaetan - male james: no, i've got case's canadian citizenship card and aiden's is being processed Daniel B: i will say male too Ronald: I know a woman in Ottawa who has that name Pamela: fooled us both Ron Ronald: although maybe I haven't spelled it right james: @dan, that's what i'm saying about "jaime". when the i is in the middle, it's a girl's name (unless it's spanish) Daniel B: well, in french there are "Gaetane" with an 'e' Ronald: ok...that's it Ronald: Her name was probably spelled with an e Pamela: you know what I was thinkng earlier James? I can't imagine anyone ever calling you Jim Daniel B: like James T Kirk in star trek? Daniel B: always called Jim by his friends? Pamela: LOL james: no one calls me jim. not without consequences anyway Ronald: As in "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a tree surgeon" Daniel B: hehe! Pamela: that's what I mean - I can't imagine it Pamela: and I've learned my lesson about shortening names without consent - it's hazardous to the health Pamela: as Kimberly can tell you Ronald: oh yes Ronald: my mother called me Ronnie. Everyone else gets a black eye Pamela: and I myself am picky about the use of my full name Pamela: ditto with anyone who calls me Pammie Ronald: :) Pamela: except Erin - she's always gotten away with it Pamela: dunno why james: :D Ronald: well, you see, there was a reason. My father was Ron, so I had to be Ronnie Pamela: Pam is fine if you're talking to me but when my name is written, I prefer Pamela Ronald: still have cousins who use the latter Daniel B: Did you see Stone Trek? it's like Star Trek in the time of dinosaures, what is the name of this cartoon "yabadabadooo!" james: my family calls me "jamie" that's it. anyone else who calls me that had better be female and intimate :P Pamela: the Flintstones Ronald: Remember from the newsletter days James... when you were writing Logo articles Ronald: it was always Jamie deCarlo Daniel B: that's it it's Stone Trek is Star Trek in a Flintstone look. it's in Flash animation somewhere on the net. Ronald: but that was then....this is now Pamela: I must admit I like Jamie better than Jim for you james: james,btw, is my middle name Pamela: what is your first name? Ronald: oh... now there's a bit of trivia for you james: i've never gone by my first name and it irks me no end when people use it. i usually sign first intial with my middle name to avoid confusion w/ credit cards etc Daniel B: ho, another question about name... is there a word in japanese that is close to your name James (or Jim)? Pamela: and pay attention class - this may be on the final exam james: nope Ronald: like Mom. Marjorie Gladys Mitchell became Glady Ronald: but signed M Gladys Mitchell Pamela: my grandfather was like that James - he was alwas F. Ross MacLean (F for Francis) james: there's no original "ja" (long a) sound in japanese so my name just gets transliterated Ronald: now there's a word Ronald: translated/obliterated james: transliterated = mapping syllables while matching the sound as closely as possible Pamela: what do your students call you James? Daniel B: so there is no confusion about your name... but your name must be deformed a bit in japanese Ronald: "teach" james: they call me "pops" Ronald: Good Lord james: yeah, gets mangled somewhat. not as bad as others Pamela: <snicker> Ronald: (me too) Daniel B: pops? popsickles? Ronald: now we're off the edge james: some of them who came last march and were at my parents place for turkey dinner heard my parents calling me "jamie" so i haven't heard the end of that yet, either Ronald: ohh geeze! Ronald: they tease you james: and reasoning with jhs girls is not unlike reasoning with a 3 year old, that's to say impossible james: oh yeah Pamela: wow, it's down to 24 degrees in the living room. Yay! Daniel B: and your parents never call you pops now? Ronald: I'm only 16 C and I've got the window open and fan going Ronald: I will not survive in Toronto Pamela: considring yesterday when I got home from work it was 30, I'll take 24 anytime Pamela: boy, my spelling is down the tubes today Ronald: anyway good people.... I must away Ronald: have more boxes to unpack... james: no, my parents don't call me pops Pamela: yes, it's not getting any earlier Pamela: and mornign comes very early Ronald: and Pamela should be asleep by now james: good luck with the unpacking. Ronald: I still have way too much in here Daniel B: it's getting late. i didn't sleep for a long time last night. so i gotta go now. good night everybody! Ronald: gonna have to get mean....real mean Ronald: Nite Daniel Pamela: g'nite Daniel Ronald: Afternoon James Ronald: Nite Pamela Pamela: nite Ron Ronald: :) Pamela: have a good day, James Daniel B: Good night Pam, Ron and James james: think things are winding up here james: good night, pam Pamela: I'm outta here - see you next week! Daniel B: talk to you next week.
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