Ginger: hi Uncle Richard
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changed username to Daniel B Daniel B: hi Rich rich-c: salut, Daniel Ginger: hi Daniel Daniel B: <waves> rich-c: Frances was on the computer mostly today, and lik3ed your report very well, Daniel Ginger: <waves> Ginger: it was very well done :-) rich-c: I haven't had time to read it, or Dale's "trqanslation" yet - sorry
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changed username to BobS BobS: HI KIDS !!!!! Daniel B: the translation is ... well... not good rich-c: got home OK, Roberto? Ginger: howdy Bobs! BobS: ginger........... Daniel B: hi Bob! BobS: RTIN BobS: ERIN BobS: yes got home safely and happily BobS: saw 2 major accidents on the way home, but didn't involve us and happened shortly before we camne to them so traffic was not backed up much rich-c: Frances said it was a little free, but hilatious in places - Whci does not necessarily indicate a "good" translation BobS: i LIKED Dale's translation of your post Daniel.......was from your heart !!!!!! rich-c: sounds like you got lucky then, BobS: very llucky, could have been in long lines of stopped traffic rich-c: which entry port did you use going back to the USA? BobS: went thru tunnel @ Windosr BobS: windsor rich-c: seill a masochist, eh? rich-c: still BobS: had NO trouble gettign back in ,,,,,did not even ask for id or birth cert rich-c: really? that's quite unusual for that road, I've heard
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changed username to Guy Foster Guy Foster: Greetings everyone. rich-c: salut Guy! Ginger: hi Guy BobS: YO Guy Guy Foster: BobS: How was the drive back home? BobS: good trip home mon????? BobS: yes easy trip back little long but rich-c: hope you enjoyed your Adamcon as much as we enjoyed the Quebec representation
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changed username to Dr. D. BobS: doktor Daniel B: After seeing you in person, the adamcon chat is different, I can add a face, a voice, an attitude to the names Guy Foster: Rich: We certainly did! Dr. D.: Hi everyone. Ginger: isn't it cool Daniel? Dr. D.: Hi Ginger Dr. D.: And Daniel and Guy Ginger: hi Doctor Guy Foster: Greetings Dr. D! rich-c: yes, the contact is very revealing - sorry I was personally not up to par Daniel B: the adamcon chat is better now, less problem to figure out who is who. rich-c: hello Rich Dr. D.: We are just glad you made it, Richard. Guy Foster: Daniel: Not connected to Yahoo! messenger? BobS: "ain't it COOL ??????" Dr. D.: Now you see how weird I am :-S rich-c: yes - we will turn off the air conditioning tonight and make do with the fans BobS: true. true Ginger: <smirk> Dr. D.: I liked all the A/C... Guy Foster: I finally know most of the people here by their names/aliases, but one question. Who's Ginger? Dr. D.: You old cold people BobS: naw TOO cool Ginger: oh shoosh Frosty Dr. D.: Who was at the convention who had red hair, Guy?
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changed username to Guy B. Guy Foster: Dr.D: Ahhhhh, OK... <blush> Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Dr. D.: hehe Ginger: hehe Ginger: Hi Guy B. rich-c: hello Guy, got back to Chicago OK I assume Guy Foster: Hi Guy B! Guy B.: About 15 minutes late and that's because of the airline switching the gate numbers around for everyone. Guy Foster: Dr. D: We forgot to take your digital camera pics. We ended up making a CD with all of the pics combined. and gave it away in the morning. BobS: hey Guy B Guy B.: Hi Bob Guy B.: When I checked out, I got a CD-Rom. Must have been from Neil Dr. D.: I still have pix here... Guy Foster: If anyone wants the pictures, I can .zip them up and put them on my website. rich-c: why don't you just post it on one of the chatters' websites so all can share? Guy B.: That explains it Guy. Thanks. Daniel B: I almost saw all the pictures burned in the cd-rom Dr. D.: I haven't even looked at the ones I took... Guy Foster: A lot of very nice pictures were taken at the event. Some people are very talented. Dr. D.: Lots of duds during the fireworks display I am sure (i.e., no fireworks). rich-c: I haven't had time to look yet - cramped my leg in Guy's room and now it's all but grounded me Daniel B: I were in the conference room during the fireworks Guy Foster: Fireworks were surprisingly very good, considering how far away we were from the harbor. rich-c: I'd have thought you would have neede to be up higher BobS: actually we were NOT far from the harbor, we took a trip down after leaving the hotel....was only about6 city blocks away or so Guy Foster: We had a clear view of the fireworks, which was right next to the Canadian Tire. rich-c: yes, but there are other buildings obstructing the view Guy Foster: Hope the chat server behaves tonight. rich-c: oh, shame, Guy - now you've gone and broken the spell 8-)
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changed username to Pamela Daniel B: hi Pam! rich-c: hi daughter Ginger: hi Pam Pamela: allo, Daniel Daniel B: <big hug> Pamela: hugs back Guy Foster: Hey there Pamela! Pamela: Hey Rin, Guy, Rich, Dad, Bob, and Guy Pamela: sorry I'm late
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changed username to Judy Pamela: Hi Judy Ginger: hi Judy! Guy Foster: Hey there Judy! rich-c: hello Judy - aren't networks great? Judy: Hi , everyone Pamela: Daddy, first of all, how are you feeling? Daniel B: I dont' know why but now I saw BobS as David Letterman. rich-c: well, we haven't heard from Ron yet, but maybe he got a slow airplane Judy: he wasn't going right home was he? Guy Foster: Ron I beleive said he was to stay 2 extra days. rich-c: so-so, Pam - the IV needle worked itsel loose and I had to call in the nurse to remove it Dr. D.: Ai Richard Dr. D.: That is not good :-( BobS: LETTERMAN ?????? Pamela: : ( is right rich-c: only lost one cheduled injection though, but it did mess up my arm Ginger: oy Dr. D.: Probably all swollen and bruised? Guy Foster: BobS: Maybe he meant, funny like Letterman, which I would have to agree! Guy B.: Hi Judy Guy B.: Hi Pam. BobS: ok, I will take that as a GOOD thing !!!!! rich-c: let's say it isn't pretty, Rich - Frances is glad I'm on the oral antibiotics Judy: hi, Guy Guy Foster: BobS: Sure is! Ginger: I dunno Guy....Letterman is quite the catch :-) Pamela: Guy, how was your flight home? Better than the trip here, I hope Guy B.: I got my new processor Monday. And it's sounds WAYYYYYYYY different. Pamela: but he's caught, remember? Wife and baby now Pamela: different how? Guy B.: I got to the airport about 20 minutes late. Better than 8 hours. BobS: sounds????? Guy B.: Sounds are all different. It's not the same as the old processor. Pamela: so we'll all sound different to you next year then? rich-c: and not easy for you to determine if it's more realistic Guy B.: I may have to have it re-programmed. I have until August 31st to decide which is better for me.
moved to room Meeting Place Guy Foster: Pamela: I can't wait to go to "Lick's" now... too bad we don't have one around here. Judy: we didn't have near the delays we had on the way Pamela: got you hooked, did I, Guy? : )
changed username to james Guy B.: You did my dear. rich-c: good morning james Ginger: hi James Pamela: good morning James : ) james: good morning Guy B.: HI James BobS: hi james james: how is everyone? Pamela: pooped thank you Judy: saw two accidents but they didn' t slow us down too much rich-c: still on the right side of the grass Guy Foster: Pamela: Yep... now I have to find where the closest Lick's is to Montreal... :) Guy B.: Recovering and now I'm working overtime. Guy Foster: Greetings James. Dr. D.: I had no delays at all :-) 35 minutes back to Toronto Sunday night, 5 hours 15 minutes (deducting lunch stop) from downtown Toronto to Cleveland. Judy: hi, James Ginger: probably helped leaving later...good to know Pamela: good luck, Guy - you may have to try Ottawa rich-c: sounds like maybe you were flying a bit low, Doc Guy Foster: Pamela: Ottawa it is then!!! Dr. D.: Ate a salad at Denny's at the Angola service plaza on the NY Thruway...read some Harry Potter 6. james: glad to see everyone has made it back ok Guy B.: The delay at the airport was they switched the gate numbers on the flights and confused everyone. Pamela: I make no guarantees, Guy Dr. D.: I bought a copy at Loblaw's Monday morning (40% off). Dr. D.: Hi James. Guy Foster: Pamela: I'm sure they have a website. :)
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changed username to Dale Guy Foster: Pamela: Maybe I can call them as if they deliver to Montreal. :) Ginger: hi Dale Pamela: hey, Dale Dr. D.: Hello Dale. Guy B.: Pam, I have to thank you for telling me to leave early. Good thing I did. Guy Foster: Greetings Dale. Guy B.: Hi Dale james: what's this about ottawa? Pamela: wouldn't it be nice, Guy rich-c: I figure I'll be ready to borrow Pam's copy juyst after she and Russell finish it Pamela: maybe there's a new business opportunity there Daniel B: hi Dale Judy: hi, Dale rich-c: hello Dale, didnt see you come in Dale: Hi all. Pamela: Guy (B), I figured it would be better for you to be early than late, especially for a flight that early Pamela: Have you finished it then Rich? BobS: Hi Dale Pamela: Dale, did my post go through to the col Adam list? Dale: James, I hear that you want to go to AdamCon 20 in Ottawa. james: aiden is cranky and sleepy. i'll be back soon Ginger: he did...but it was Scotty that died at the end :-( james: i would love that Dr. D.: Re: Scotty, heavy sighs Guy B.: Paid off. Got there early. Manage to print my boarding pass at the check-in kiosk and got through customs and security with no problems. Pamela: I'm so glad, Guy Guy B.: Now, I'm going to plan out for next years. rich-c: then all you had to do was stay awake until they allowed boarding Dale: Pam, I haven't seen it come through. Are you subscribed? Pamela: Guy, how long is the flight from Toronto to Chicago? Pamela: I should be Dale, but I may have the wrong address - hang on whilst I check rich-c: only about two hours, isn't it? Guy B.: Pam, I heard on the radio that a truck overturned on 401 and it blocked all three lanes. And I got off at 409 when it started backing up. Guy B.: It was an hour and half. rich-c: wel, 409 is the natural route to the airport anyway Guy B.: And it was clear sailing all the way. Pamela: is this it?: firstname.lastname@example.org
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changed username to Ron Back West Ginger: hi Ron Daniel B: hi ron Ron Back West: back Guy B.: HI ROn Dr. D.: Hello Mighty Mitchell! Dr. D.: <scissors> Dale: Hi Ron. Ron Back West: evening all rich-c: hey Ron, you made it - long flight to Comox BobS: hey !!!!! the WET coast heard form Ron Back West: yessir james: back Dale: <paper> Pamela: ah, no wonder Ron Back West: rock Dr. D.: Ron wins! Judy: we saw one that had rolled but it was on the entrance ramp Dr. D.: Broken scissors can't cut paper Pamela: hi, Ron Judy: hi, Ron Ron Back West: Hey Bob- did you guys have to go back to the hotel Monday night? james: dale, was the con that just finished #17 or #18? Ron Back West: Hi Pam, Judy Dale: Was 17. Daniel B: #17 Dale: http://www.adamcon.org/17/ Dale: has some stuff. Judy: no we were home james: so i think that means i'd want #19 in ottawa, not #20. if this can be done BobS: no, were back home in Gr on Monday night Pamela: okay, fixed. Gonna re-send. rich-c: why don't you talk to everyone who got pictures and invite them to post them Daniel B: Guy Bona is in charge of the Adamcon next year. Dr. D.: I will gladly take 20 :-) Only 3 years to prepare Ron Back West: Ok, must have been somebody else - another Grand Marquis, same colour with Michigan license plates. And a hat on the back seat that looked like an Adamcon hat Dale: http://www.adamcon.org/~dmwick/warmfuzz/ has a tuned up version of the game I was discussing during the show. Ron Back West: I thought -oh oh... something's amiss Daniel B: I'm downloading the new version, Dale. BobS: OUCH !!!! a parallel world here........ james: hey ron, glad to see you've made it back to the wet coast Guy Foster: Dale: Let's check the game out! Ron Back West: Thank you sir..... I'd forgot how much I hated waiting in airports Dale: Richard, I actually gathered up all of the images I could and made CDs that I gave out to those who contributed. james: lol. yeah, we used to have a really bad layover in vancouver going from osaka to ottawa Judy: we stopped and picked up the ref and made it home by 7 Dale: Guy B, did you get a CD when you checked out? Ron Back West: so y'all got a double rich-c: it' all comes back to you in a hurry the next time, doesn't it? james: i can't believe we used to go directly from my wife's house to my parents' place without stopping james: this time we're breaking it up and flying northworst with only a 1hr layover in detroit Daniel B: ho! I saw a screenshot in the warmfuzz folder Judy: Bob got a little wet putting the fridge in Ron Back West: I'll bet Ron Back West: Hot in Michigan? Ron Back West: phone is ringing BRB Daniel B: ok, it's an old screenshot BobS: si, just like in Whitby Dale: It is in the zip file and called result.rom Judy: yes, high 80's and it rained tonight Pamela: I must say, one of the things I like about being on dial up is NOT having to answer the phone Judy: just got the grass cut and it started raining Pamela: that's the way it goes, Judy Pamela: I think it's written somewhere: cutting the lawn shall make it rain rich-c: it's almost as effacacious as washing your car - but doesn't attract birds Dale: I can beat the computer now, if I use both hands to carry items. The computer only ever uses one hand. Judy: it really needs it so I wasn't complaining, would do any good anyway Dr. D.: I mowed the lawn this morning and no rain yet here. Pamela: well, we had a beautiful day - much cooler, no humidity, clear skies and no smog Pamela: actually worth going outside rich-c: yes, last week we told our gardener to trim the hedge instead as the grass wasn't worth cutting james: pamela, surely you weren't in toronto then :P Pamela: I did have to double check, James : ) Daniel B: Wow! you improve the game and add a title screen and receipe screens between the games. Guy Foster: Dale: how do you carry items when you're over them? Dale: The top left corner of the sprite has to be over the object you want to pick up. Dr. D.: You didn't ask me to cut any hedges on Monday, Richard :-) Judy: needed it in places Dale: Then hit either the left or right fire button. Judy: and Ryan liked the ride Dale: Daniel, I added that on Monday. Guy Foster: Dale: And then you press the fire button? Daniel B: thank you to slowdown the speed of the coleco bunny. :-) rich-c: no, you did more towards reducing the cluuter (a.k.a. preserving heritage items) Guy Foster: Dale: Ok, so the ears of the bunny have to be on the item.... Dale: Top left corner in particular. Pamela: yes Frances, there really is a basement . . . : ) Dale: I still need to make it so that the paw of the bunny is the pickup point. It would make more sense. Pamela: what did you end up taking home, Rich? Guy B.: Yes, I got the CD. Thanks rich-c: if Rin takes one of the Adams, Pam, will you take another to keep up woith her ; - ) Guy Foster: Dale: Yes, but that's easy to change I guess. Pretty impressive. All that's left is some sounds. Dr. D.: I took paper docs and books. Pamela: sure Dad, just as soon as I add another room on : ) Dr. D.: And 3 to-be-tested disk drives. Ginger: I would like to have one :-) Dale: I have some sounds compiled in, I just need to trigger them. Dale: Mostly. Judy: in an apartment? Pamela: I'd love to have one if I just had the space Dale: I also want to write a little jingle to go with it. rich-c: it can be arranged, Erin, soon as I am less - uh - physically challenged? Guy Foster: Dale: I started work on my shooter-game. It's advanced pretty well in 24 hours, but I still need to work on the AI. Guy Foster: Dale: Yes, a nice fast-paced background jingle when the rabbits are running around. Guy Foster: Dale: What's those numbers that appear inside the brick wall? Pamela: believe me Judy, I wish I could add on. Daniel B: need help? you know, I improved my coleco sound knowledge reccently Ron Back West: back Pamela: however, I'd settle for getting some of this junk outta here Pamela: I am my father's daughter Guy Foster: Daniel: speaking of which, dunno if it's my computer, but did you change your java applet recently? A lot of the sounds don't work on my end. Dr. D.: I am pretty sure that the actual sorting/disposal can be easily done in a single longish Saturday, as long as there is a dumpster. Judy: you just have to rent the apartment next door and you have an added room Daniel B: the applet is the same, and i didn't recompile it Guy B.: Rich C, did you copy Qbasic from your desktop to your laptop? Pamela: don't think we haven't considered it : ) Pamela: unfortunately, it's just a little impractical rich-c: have been too otherwise occupied to even look to see if I have it, Guy Guy Foster: Pamela: garage sale time! Pamela: mais Guy, je n'ai pas un garage james: cd /var/www/ james: oops Guy Foster: james: hmmm. :) Pamela: www.oops? Judy: they aren't all they are cracked up to be anyway, Guy
Ron Back West changed username to Ron james: lol. trying to get something running on my linux box Dr. D.: Anybody successfully grabbed my PowerPoint presentation yet? Ron: Speaking of JAVA applets, Dale, did you change the one Spaniel is using? Guy B.: I figured out why I couldn't transfer through our own notebooks. Needed a crossover cable. I'm going to put a Powerpoing presentation for you on the emulator and the utilities. Ron: Was unable to get in with my Mac Guy B.: Powerpoint Daniel B: I didn't read the whole Coleco prog manual, but my own coleco prog document will take some info from this doc for sure Dr. D.: You couldn't get my PPT Ron? Ron: couldn't access the chat from the Mac Dr. D.: Oh, you were talking about Spaniel. Ron: ya Dr. D.: I see (brain is foggy, it is too warm here) Ron: your pres has arrived DR. D. I haven't opened it yet Dr. D.: You should enjoy the bonus final slide, eh Ginger? Ginger: <smirk> rich-c: I think MS makes a Powerpoint viewer now that can be downloaded free Daniel B: yes, here it's warm too... I want to return to the hotel and hear Bob says "Welcome to Alaska"
Pamela created action SO/A/C Dr. D.: She knows what it is :-) Guy B.: Your Easyoffice may have one. Does it? Ginger: indeed I remember Judy: we have turned on the air again, I really didn't want to be cold anymore
(Pamela sends Dr. D. some air conditioning) Dale: Ron, I didn't change it yet. I'll do it for next week though.
(Pamela sends Daniel B some air conditioning) Guy B.: I turned mine off for the day. Had it one for the dog. rich-c: not sure - StarOffice on the desktop does Guy Foster: Dr. D: how can i access your presentation? I missed it, so I'd like to see it. Judy: but after it rained it turned awful Guy B.: Take a look the next time your on it. Dr. D.: http://drushel.cwru.edu/adamcon17/rfd-ac17.ppt rich-c: also got a giveaway disc today with a lot of Corel stuff on it Dr. D.: if memory serves Dr. D.: It is 9.3 MB, so hope you have DSL... Guy B.: We did get some rain here. Then some severe weather hit south of me. Pamela: we haven't had any rain since Sunday
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changed username to MacMitch Guy Foster: Dr. D: The path is valid. rich-c: we had some rain overnight but not enough to wake us up - the grass appreciated it though Judy: they had some t-storm warning south of us, also Guy B.: Ron, you're on twice. MacMitch: Ok, well so much for that theory ... guess it must just be my laptop MacMitch: Yes, I know.... .I'll kill off one Pamela: you don't have your tongue in the right place in your cheek, Ron
Ron left chat session Dr. D.: Still some working brain cells for me then, Guy. MacMitch: There Pamela: Ron, when did you get home? MacMitch: About 5:30 pm our time Dale: Guy F, the numbers on the brick wall are debug code still. The joystick position. Pamela: ah, just recently then MacMitch: Flight was about 20 minutes late getting in MacMitch: yes Pamela: so did you have dinner with M & D last night? rich-c: did you get a chance to snooze on the way? MacMitch: yup. We ordered in pizza MacMitch: good time had by all Pamela: good. MacMitch: I snoozed at the airport, I snoozed on the plane, I snoozed in Calgary.... the day was one big snooze MacMitch: snoozed in the east, snoozed in the west Judy: we didn't even have to show id at the border to get back in rich-c: ah, you had a layover in Calgary, then? MacMitch: 2 hours Pamela: did they ask you anything interesting Judy? rich-c: wouldn't do me - for some reason I've been snoozing all day MacMitch: I don't mind layovers. Would rather have too much time than too little Judy: what was our plate # rich-c: didn't even get up until 10.30, back to sleep after lunch Pamela: really? That's different Judy: that was the most important thing on her mind Daniel B: Question : What is the problem with the hour in usa to have a new law to keep the advanced time 9 months per year? Pamela: Rich, what about you? Dr. D.: What about me? rich-c: they are just trying to make the rest of the world annoyed with them, Daniel Pamela: any problems at the border? Dr. D.: Nope. Dr. D.: Guy looked at my passport. Dr. D.: Asked where I was at, I said Weston, Whitby for computer convention, Weston again, then here. rich-c: actually it's the revenge of the southern red states (where sunrise/sunset don't vary much during the year) on the blue states where they have winters and things Pamela: did he know where any of those places were? Dr. D.: What did I have in the car? Clean clothes, sack of dirty clothes, laptop, printer and scanner for laptop. Dr. D.: Have a nice day. Dr. D.: How should I know? Dr. D.: It was the truth. Pamela: tee hee Judy: and if we bought anything Guy Foster: Do Americans have to pay any duty fees when they buy things in Canada? Dr. D.: All of your Dad's stuff fit conveniently behind the rear seat and the hatch, after some reorganizing. Dr. D.: Probably if you buy a lot of stuff...but since I don't drink or smoke, and those are the two things most people try to bring back to the States...I am safe. rich-c: with free trade most items are duty free - but there are exceptions both ways BobS: after 48 hours, can bring back $700 of stuff i think it said....including some alchohol and some sigarettes Pamela: I thought it was the other way around - people import those things to Canada from the States BobS: cigarettes Dr. D.: All the Americans want Canadian high-test beer. rich-c: they are cheaper at the duty free store going either way james: so next year's con is in chicago? Guy Foster: When I go to the states for less than 3 days, I have to declare everything, and pay close to 30% taxes. After 3 days I can bring in about $450 worth of products, and pay duty on the rest. Pamela: wow, we only get $300 (I think) after 48 hours BobS: sowed the customs lady my tshirt and Judy said she bought some shampoo/conditioner james: pam - that's apparently being reviewed rich-c: I doubt it - they don't seem to seek out the higher-alcohol brands BobS: said GOOD BYE to us and away we went Judy: told me my hair looked good Daniel B: I like Whitby. I didn't saw the entire city but i like what I saw. Pamela: good - I want to go clothes shopping next year Dr. D.: That isn't what Erin's friend Pat said... Guy Foster: Daniel: It's a pretty big city.... Surprised I hadn't heard of it before my trip there. rich-c: check with Canada Customs and find out what is duty free, Pam - though rmember you WILL have to pay sales tax MacMitch: Monday I drove up to Canadian Forces Base Borden and saw the house I used to live in 53 years ago Dr. D.: Wow Ron james: how old were you at the time, ron? MacMitch: about 7 Pamela: I just pack it MacMitch: give or take james: wow MacMitch: looks like they were about to tear them all down.... none of them were occupied.... the married quarters Pamela: speaking of which, what if any sales tax does Illinois have, Guy? BobS: glad you found it ron james: dale, are you still here? Guy B.: Now that Adamcon 17 is over. I'm going to start on 18. And going to get rid of a couple of old computers here. Dale: I'm here. MacMitch: me too.... james: @guy, are they adams? Dale: Jeffrey says that I should be playing a PS2 Nascar game. james: lol Pamela: apparently everyone has the cleaning bug : ) Dale: So he is trying to distract me with that. MacMitch: yeah Dale, get your priorities straight eh? Daniel B: Jeffrey is better? good! Pamela: how is he feeling, Dale? Guy B.: We do have a sales tax here. But, several cities added more to the base tax. We also have a sales tax to fund mass transit. Judy: Bob had to play games with Ryan, also Dale: Jeffrey is a bit better, but I couldn't get him to take an afternoon nap, as much as I tried. Guy Foster: Hmm, Neil is not on tonight. Dale: So he is a little gumpy today. james: how old is he? Dr. D.: Neil is rarely here AFAIK MacMitch: I can relate to that, and I had my nap! Guy B.: No Adams James. They are PC's. Guy Foster: Guy B: Phewww, because getting rid of an Adam would be... blasphemy! MacMitch: a chargeable offence Dale: Neil is usually on only when I ask him explicitly. A few times a year. Dr. D.: Guess I am going to jail in 3 weeks then Guy B.: I have two here at my place and two more at my sister in-law's crawl space. Both in the original boxes. rich-c: oh? how many would you like, GuyF, and when would you like to come collect them? Pamela: we'll protect you, Rich Guy Foster: Guy B: Awesome collector's item! Dale: Jeffrey is 3 1/2 years old. MacMitch: In that case Dr. D., it is justified Dr. D.: Magic Chef brand 286, right? Dale: James did you download my updated game. Dr. D.: Doubles as a toaster oven. Guy Foster: Rich: Hehehe. Until I buy myself a house, I cannot bring in anything more into this crowded little appartment of mine. Guy B.: One of my Adam's is the Expansion 3. Dale: We were discussing it earlier. MacMitch: brb Pamela: cook your eggs on the hard drive? Dr. D.: No that is the baloney slicer attachment Guy Foster: I would like to get the ADAM expansion module that plugs into the Colecovision though. Dr. D.: Cutting wheel Pamela: ah rich-c: wellm get shopping, your market may take off like ours rich-c: here they buy a bungalow for $400,000 just to tear it down Pamela: considering the difference in housing prices we discussed Guy, now would be a good time Pamela: (says she, who lives in a glass house) Guy Foster: Rich: Those are the prices you would expect to pay in the prestigious areas of Montreal, but around Montreal, things are still reasonable. Guy B.: That one was my first Adam. The others are the standalones. Dr. D.: Not much glass in your apartment, Pam. rich-c: well, get one while they are still rasonable, Guy Pamela: that's because I've been throwing stones : ) BobS: got some here Guy, not oxed, but in good shape BobS: boxed Pamela: got that nice big picture window in the living room : ) Guy Foster: Pamela: Here, you can still get something decent for $150K. Guy B.: I'm going to turn one PC into a DOS machine for the emulator and Adamserve. And install two original 360K floppy drives. Guy Foster: Pamela: Even $80K if you don't mind driving for an hour. :) Pamela: it makes a person jealous, Guy rich-c: that won't even buy a secondhand, rundown condo in Toronto BobS: so prices are more normal in Montreal eh????? Pamela: heck, that's a half decent downpayment around here rich-c: yes, very substantially more sane. Bob james: $80k for what, a house? Guy B.: My Dell will have two new upgrades. One, a 40GB hard drive and a 17" monitor that I will get free from work. Guy Foster: James: Certainly.... nothing too big or luxurious, but yes. james: wow Pamela: I second that Guy Foster: http://www.mls.ca - to see properties for sale in Canada. james: in ottawa if you want a single home, you're starting at about $220k Guy B.: This I would love to see sometime. james: yeah, miyuki and i spend a lot of time on that site Guy Foster: James: Thinking of going back to Canada? :) james: oh, we plan to eventually james: idea is to get my mutual funds built up and then subsidize the purchase of a house on the interest james: so once the school is paid off, i've got ten years to slave away and invest Guy Foster: James: You'd need lots of mutual funds for that. rich-c: it can be done but it ain't easy, james james: yeah, figuring on $300-$400k Daniel B: Did I say something bad? Bob is not talking at all... Judy: he is watching a movie at the same time BobS: nope.....listening Pamela: of course not Daniel Guy Foster: Daniel: Yeah Dan, he's mad at you! :) rich-c: naw, he's gone looking to see how many surplus Adams he wants to unload... BobS: none.........ADAM'S ade collector items Pamela: speaking of quiet - Erin, you've hardly said a word rich-c: all the time, Bob - so where are these collectors? Ginger: dozing and watching Judy: we may need the room when we close up the antiques Pamela: how's work going? rich-c: I gather the antique trade isn't what it used to be? Ginger: been very busy...still getting up to speed on a lot of issues Judy: that is an understatement Guy Foster: I guess there must be fluctuations with Antiques. I've seen a lot of Antique shops in Montreal closing, yet there are a few that seem to be doing pretty well. (the ones that deal with eBay) Judy: this is the worst year that we have ever had rich-c: hard in a government that can't make up its mind - and messes up when it does Pamela: I'll bet. : ) Ginger: words of wisdom...from the press Judy: we have bought on ebay so the prices aren't good on there either Guy Foster: Judy: Hang on to those antiques, the market will come back, I'm sure of that. rich-c: I had such high hopes for the Liberals when they came in - well, at least they are a little less crooked Judy: have sold a few items on there but it is really iffy Daniel B: Question : Neil's presentation he didn't do at the Adamcon, is it possible to have a copy the powerpoint file of it? rich-c: yes, eBay is something of a lottery, isn't it? Judy: not a problem we have 3 booths full not to mention the stuff that we have in the house Guy Foster: Rich: Yes. Items that sell for $350 one week, will sell for $75 the next week, etc.... rich-c: yes, and one of the worst for the yo-yo actioin is the Adam Guy Foster: Rich: I can believe that. Colecovision is pretty strong though. rich-c: maybe I should try flogging my TI-99/4A instead james: i see those for sale on ebay from time to time Dr. D.: Don't flog it too hard, poor thing, only 256 bytes of CPU RAM... Guy Foster: Rich: You have any disk drives for the TI-99/4A? Dale: Daniel, a copy of Neil's powerpoint is on the CD i gave you. rich-c: I do not understand why the Colecovion would sell and the upgrade, the Adam, won't Daniel B: not the presentation based on newspapers rich-c: yes, I have the cabinet with the hosepipe and a couple of drives in it Daniel B: the one about digital camera... something like that Guy Foster: Rich: Might have to do with the fact that youneed to buy a printer with it to make it work. Dr. D.: I have the Expansion Unit, with RAM upgrade, serial/parallel card, and I think the disk drive. Guy Foster: Rich: Awesome! Was looking for one last year. Let me know if you ever want to get rid of it. Dr. D.: And somewhere, an entire set of schematics, full-sized. Guy Foster: Dr. D: You also own a TI-99/4A? Dr. D.: Yes. Dr. D.: And the XRAM cartridge, speech synthesizer, TI BASIC, some game carts Dale: Daniel, I don't think he prepared a presentation for that, as he continued on with the history sessions. Guy Foster: Dr. D: Fully loaded TI-99/4A I see! Daniel B: ok rich-c: I have about six but just the one console - but I'm open to offers Dr. D.: I got it from a guy who also had some ADAM stuff, way back when. Guy B.: I would say that Coleco at least, kept their word that they released the Adam Expansion Module 3. MacMitch: Get thee behind me Satan! Dr. D.: I think it was $50 for the whole lot...or maybe it was just whatever was needed to cover shipping. Guy Foster: Rich: Sure thing! MacMitch: I have no room for such things rich-c: when did that ever stop you, Ron? MacMitch: It has to now Dr. D.: Or maybe it was shipping to cover the lot and some ADAM stuff...I can remember the guy's name, but nothing else. Dr. D.: Had to have been 1992 or so. rich-c: BTW Bob, did you get the copies of the Makine emails I sent you? Daniel B: Question : Is there someone here who have a picture of the Coleco company? I can't find one. Guy Foster: Daniel: It would be wise to look through Montreal newspapers. Perhaps they had a picture of it inside. rich-c: The Coleco company has several locations including W.Hartford, CT., Amsterdam, NY and Montrea;l Daniel B: any picture of one of theses building? rich-c: Gppgle it and see what you get BobS: yup I did Richard Guy Foster: Daniel:Let me seeif I can find anything for you. BobS: trouble is the shippign form CA to US Guy Foster: Daniel: I found a COLECO truck.... http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/macneil/vintage/frm_negs/c/coleco_industries_ih_sml.jpg Dr. D.: There was a place you could buy old stock certificates, including from Coleco. Dr. D.: They wanted $120 for one about 5 years ago... rich-c: it is expensive, Bob, as we have nothing like small packet rates, but in qualtity it isn't bad Dr. D.: It was pretty but too pricey Pamela: that would be the one worth $2.55 or whatever it was, Rich? Dr. D.: Something like that...though now, worthless as stock. rich-c: not necessarily, Pam, a single stock certificate can cover a number of shares james: dale, if you rejoin us, i'd like to ask you a couple questions about running java stuff on linux Dr. D.: I am going to have to go...gotta get up at 6 AM to take Elanor to school. Guy Foster: Have a good night Dr. D. Pamela: that was all-inclusive, Dad : ) Guy B.: Bye Dr D. BobS: nite doktor d Judy: night Dr D Dr. D.: Nite all Pamela: goodnite Rich james: good night! Dr. D.: <poof> rich-c: that does mean it's time for some shuteye - take care, Rich
Dr. D. left chat session Daniel B: bye Dr.D ... too late Guy Foster: Hmmm, distance of 847 miles from Montreal to Chicago. Pamela: holy cow, that was fast Dale: James, yoyu didn't respond to my last two comments to you. rich-c: that's a bit dicey to drive all in one day, but easy over two (if you're young enough) james: i have to admit that i didn't see them Dale: But I run java stuf f on Linux. james: aiden left a deposit that i had to withdraw Pamela: LOL, James james: ok, i'm just wondering how. i'm trying to set up nfcchat Guy Foster: Rich: About 600KMs/day. I could probably manage that... probably better to take the plane though. james: so far i've unzipped the package and put it on my box and i'Ve installed jamvm (java virtual machine) Ginger: well g'night folks...alarm says 5 am Pamela: I checked and we have enough air miles right now for one round trip air fare to Chicago Ginger: see you next week Dale: I've done an apt-get install jamvm rich-c: night now Rin Pamela: oh, ick sweetie gnite james: yeah, exactly what i did Guy Foster: Speaking of chat, I must admit that the chat is behaving amazingly tonight.
Ginger left chat session Judy: night Erin james: well it helps when there's only one rich-c :P Dale: It seems to be reasonablly good, except for the occasional lockup with a large number of connections. Guy Foster: Hehe. rich-c: yes, I haven't been drop[ped once (touch wood) Daniel B: Bye 'rin... too late again james: we could forcibly remove him :D MacMitch: Be well - all who are saying g'nite Pamela: you have to be quick, Daniel : ) james: but he might put up a fight Pamela: careful, he'll whack you with his cane : ) james: so dale, is jamvm what you've been using to run spaniel chat? Dale: What zip have you downloaded? Daniel B: is it a "pace" game saying goodnight to those who are leaving? james: nfcchat Pamela: sometimes : ) Dale: jamvm just for a month or so. Guy Foster: Daniel: Just set yourself up a macro. james: from sourcefourge.net. i downloaded the binary james: ok, so i'm on the right track then james: i know that to actually run the java chat server i need the java virtual machine Dale: Daniel :-) it's all reflexes. james: i used nfcchat last night on another site and i really liked it rich-c: think I'd better get up while I still can get up Pamela: you heading out Dad? rich-c: as Guy knows, too long on a chair cramps my legs james: http://nfcchat.sourceforge.net/ rich-c: so time for me to duck out - goodnight to all james: good night, rich! Pamela: Dad, I'll try to call tomorrow night Dale: I'm thinking of trying sablevm instead, to see if it works better. Guy Foster: Goodnight Rich! (quick Daniel,say goodnight) rich-c: OK, I'll be here Pamela: goodnight till then, Daddy BobS: nite richarda james: sablevm is another java virtual machine? Daniel B: bonne nuit Rich! Judy: night Rich, hope you feel better sooon rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel et Duy Daniel B: YES! MacMitch: How is your arm Rich? The one with the bandage on it? Guy Foster: Get well soon Rich! rich-c: take it easy all - a la prochaine Guy B.: Bye Rich Pamela: ta da Guy Foster: <poof?> rich-c: colour me gone
rich-c left chat session Dale: I have a shell script that runs every 15 minutes, to make sure that the chat server is running. Dale: Guy F: you can say goodbye for 15 minutes (or an hour) james: ok, 1st question - i've installed jamvm - how do i start it or know it's running? Dale: But if you say poof, you promise not to continue the conversation. james: lol Guy Foster: <poof>. Didn't a wizard in Zork use that word? Dale: Well, once I have the paths set up correctly, I start the java application: Dale: java SpanielChat2Server >/tmp/spaniel.up 2>/tmp/spaniel.err & Pamela: okay Mr. Bona - what pipe cleaner creations are we going to make to represent Chicago? Guy Foster: Pamela: Perhaps a gun? :) Dale: Pam LOL Pamela: LOL Guy B.: Hmmmm. Haven't thought about that yet. Any ideas? james: hmm.. Guy B.: No, we are NOT the mob here. Pamela: I'm thinking about it Guy Foster: Guy B: ... but it is Chicago!!! Guy B.: I know. Pamela: perhaps we should make that next year's MMA Guy Foster: MMA? Pamela: Mighty Mitchell Award Guy Foster: Ahhh yes.... Guy B.: Anyone heard of Sam Giancana? MacMitch: mighty mitchell aswardc MacMitch: award Dale: I guess it is my problem to determine the contest for the MMA. Pamela: but no, that's Dale's job next year, isn't it Pamela: that name rings a bell, Guy Pamela: but I don't know why Judy: no, I have not, Guy MacMitch: yes dale Pamela: famous mobster perhaps? Dale: HCMMMMA (the Highly Coveted but Much Maligned Might Mitchell Award) Pamela: and Dale, please, no chess - I don't know how to play it MacMitch: you dihrty rat Guy B.: He was the BIG boss of the Chicago Mob. He was murdered 30 years ago and that still remains unsolved. When I grew up. My neighbor was Sam's brother and I never knew that until my mom told me. Dale: Pam, I was kidding about the chess thing. I'll come up with something appropriate though. Pamela: ah yes - seems to me there was a Biography about him on A&E Pamela: <huge sigh of relief> THANK YOU Daniel B: Question : At the Rock Paper Scisor game, Dale did Rock then ___ then rock again... what is the word missing here? MacMitch: bear in mind that the originally stated purpose of the MMA was to encourage programming MacMitch: not that we ever did thaty MacMitch: that Dale: Rock crushes Scissors Dale: Scissors cut paper. Guy B.: Anyway, you guys don't have to worry about anything like that. But, there is a lot to see and I have an idea for a sidetrip. Dale: Paper smothers rock. Pamela: isn't it that rock dulls scissors? Guy Foster: Dale: I like the modified RPS version better.... What was it again? Earthquake, Human, Roach? Dale: You can also play water wood fire: MacMitch: right... that's better Dale: water puts out fire james: @dale, is there a way to use apt-get to just tell you *where* something has been installed? Dale: fire burns wood Dale: wood floats on water. MacMitch: water douses fire MacMitch: water rots wood james: most woods do Dale: James, try dpkg -L jamvm MacMitch: let's hear it for water Guy Foster: YaY Judy: and on and on MacMitch: :) Pamela: I am in favour of water, especially the kind enclosed in a pool and chlorinated Guy B.: Well folks, got to get going. I'll see you all next week. Pamela: gnite, Guy Guy Foster: Take care Guy! Judy: night Guy MacMitch: nite Guy. Good seein' ya again Dale: Water doesn't really rot wood. In Ottawa river, they are recovering logs that were stuck in the log drive 100 years ago. Water preserves wood. MacMitch: Pam.... not if you get your hair tangled in the intake Dale: See ya Guy. Daniel B: bye guy BobS: later Guy Pamela: my hair isn't long enough : ) Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session MacMitch: I think MacMitch: oh Guy Foster: DanB: Still there? MacMitch: was one of these pools like Dale has in his back yard Daniel B: GuyF: yes... Guy Foster: Daniel: Good! Dale: James, I posted my whole presentation to http://www.adamcon.org/~dmwick/warmfuzz/ including a reasonablely playable game. Pamela: Judy, what is the ultimate size of whatever you were crocheting? Guy Foster: Afghan sized? Judy: 40 inches and it is going to be a tablecloth Pamela: wow Pamela: double wow Judy: I am on round79 of 119 Guy Foster: 2/3rds done! Pamela: how long does a round take you? Judy: a long time Pamela: I'll bet - that's a lot of yarn Judy: in the time we were gone I did 2 rounds Pamela: so, you should be done round about December? james: sec, i'll try it. seem to have misplaced virtual coleco BobS: I gonna leavenow guys and gals Guy Foster: Judy: You definitely don't want to get bleach on that thing by accident...
BobS left chat session james: have a good one bob Pamela: night, Bob Guy Foster: Night Bob. Judy: don't know, haven't done much so it is new for me Daniel B: Wow... he was fast Daniel B: bye Bob Judy: talk at you next week Pamela: good luck and good night
Judy left chat session Dale: Well, there is one in http://www.adamcon.org/17/z80-3.zip for sure. Dale: (a virtual colecovision exe) james: i think i've got one here.. just moved some stuff around a few weeks ago Guy Foster: www.bluemsx.com - a better emulator. Virtual Coleco has certain annoying bugs. Pamela: Dale, I know you'll get or have already gotten my e-mail, but let me say again: good job to you and Jillian on this convention. A wonderful time was had by all. Dale: Thanks Pam. Guy Foster: Well, I'll be idling for a few minutes, will be back shortly. Pamela: and on that note, I'm heading for bed so will say good night Pamela: see everyone next week Pamela: Guy, please say hi to Sandra Pamela: Dale, please give Jillian a hug for me and tell her I'm sorry I didnt' get a chance to say goodnight on Sunday Dale: Jillian, said that she really liked meeting Sandra too. Pamela: gnite Daniel Daniel B: Well I checked all the pictures on Google with the keyword "coleco", no coleco industry, no coleco building, nothing except the truck Guy talked earlier james: interesting game Daniel B: bonne nuit Pam Pamela: kerpoof
Pamela left chat session Dale: It demonstrates a few of the ideas in my presentation. Daniel B: good presentation you did Daniel B: easy to understand the logic james: @dale, i'm gonna put this chat server stuff aside for now Daniel B: It will be difficult to do better next year Dale Dale: BRB MacMitch: sorry about that, had someone come to the door Daniel B: hello again MacMitch: to return a video they had borrowed some time back james: wb ron MacMitch: have you ever seen "The Pirates of Silicon Valley"?? Daniel B: twice MacMitch: that was the one that got returned Daniel B: A story on Steve Jobs and Bill Gates MacMitch: thats the one james: http://126.96.36.199/colecoshop/index.html james: not much there yet james: think i'll download that sometime Dale: back. Guy Foster: back as well. james: in fact i'm downloading it now Guy Foster: James: I'm really impressed so far with the Colecoshop. I know it'll be a hit! Daniel B: Do you have an idea of what you are going to talk next year at the Adamcon Dale? james: when we get it mostly up, yeah james: on that subject dale, i'm going to worry about the chat server later Dale: Daniel, I of course could do better. I ran out of time to do a hands on portion of the presentation. james: hopefully it'll have been up and running for awhile by the time adamcon 19 in ottawa comes around :D MacMitch: php eh? Dale: Daniel, I usually just talk about whatever I do in February/March, which annually is my highest recreational programming time of the year. Guy Foster: Dale: Might have to do with it being the coldest too. :) james: the forums are php james: and at some point this summer i hope to learn a little php and database connectivity to mysql Dale: I also tend to have a lighter workload at the office, and have an itch to create something. Guy Foster: Ron: Oh yes, before I forget. About the hobby we were talking about: www.rac.ca - a good starting point. james: conceptually, i doubt it's all that different from .asp connecting to databases Dale: Pretty similar James. Guy Foster: Ron: They had a Jay Leno competition, where they did a Morse Code vs. Text Messaging. Guess who won? MacMitch: got it Guy, thanks. I'll check that out - looks interesting Dale: But I like PostgreSQL better than mysql (not to start a giant flame war) james: so uhh dale.. can i pick your brain a little more about dns? MacMitch: morse Guy Foster: Ron: Indeed. james: lol james: i wouldn't have the knowledge to argue the merits of one sql over another MacMitch: I remember several marine incidents where I was happy to have International Morse Dale: DNS. MacMitch: doesn't matter what language you speak, you can convey your situation Guy Foster: Ron: Not only that, MORSE code can reach places using very low power that voice simply cannot. MacMitch: absolutely Dale: Well, I think you missed something important in the daemon.log. Guy Foster: Ron:Ahh, I wish I could pick your brain and know morse code.... Unfortunately, it seems like way too much work. MacMitch: It has to arrive in that place in your head where you can do it in your sleep james: wasn't it only a few years ago that they took the transatlantic morse cable offline? MacMitch: It was supposed to be dead by 1980 James, but in actual practice, it was more like 1990 james: interesting Guy Foster: Ron: You said you listened to Shortwave Radio as well? MacMitch: there were old rustbuckets running around the Pacific where upgrading wasn't practical, so they kept Morse alive until most of 'em sank james: is the cable still laid out? MacMitch: I have no idea, but I suspect so.... probably part of some contingency plan, but I'm guessing james: in case aliens attack and we just have no other way to get a message to europe :P MacMitch: it would be something like that, yes james: @dale, just saw your message. i wish there were a way to change colours in this james: how do i view the log? Guy Foster: In periods of crisis, the first to go down are usually the communications. james: @guy, sounds like marriage Dale: If you "grep colecoshop.com /var/log/daemon.log" what do you get? MacMitch: :) Dale: You should get something like: james: lol. let me check Dale: Jul 20 23:24:56 asterix named: master zone "yukonruby.com" (IN) loaded (serial 2005052302) james: does that command actually produce output to the screen or do i have to go look for it? james: because it returned nothing visible Dale: Output to the screen. Dale: A bad sign. james: ok. nohting then. i think i know what the problem *may* be but i'm not sure james: do i have to use rndc reload to have the changest take effect before restarting bind? MacMitch: Anyway good gents - I'm not sure what time zone I'm on here, but I think I may be down a quart MacMitch: so I'll bid you a fond g'evening Dale: Are you sure that you have a record in /etc/bind9/named.conf that points to the colecoshop.com domain file we were discussing last week? james: lol. ok ron. you have a good evening Daniel B: good evening MacMitch: niters Daniel B: talk to you next week Dale: See you later Ron. MacMitch: yup james: @dale, let me check
MacMitch left chat session james: well my diry is /etc/bind and not bind9 Dale: Daniel, I think that this is the first time I wrote my own powerpoints. Dale: Well, I use bind 8, and I put my files in /etc/bind/named.conf james: but i do have a zone "colecoshop.com" entry Dale: So that seems plausable, I guess. james: ok, did you see my question about rndc? Dale: To make sure that the output I'm looking for wasn't logrotated away, stop and restart the bind server james: ok Dale: /etc/init.d/bind9 stop Dale: /etc/init.d/bind9 start Dale: Then run the grep again. james: ok, did that but just bind, not bind 9 james: empty Dale: Daniel, usually I make a hand out in a word processor or hand write my notes. Dale: dpkg -l bind Dale: for me returns Dale: bind 8.4.6-1 Internet Domain Name Server Dale: But last year, and the year before, I cheated and presented your presentation. james: rc bind 8.4.6-1 internet domain name server Dale: Not ii bind? james: hmmm... Dale: Removed, with just the config files left? james: status=not/installed/config-files/unpacked/failed-config/half-installed Dale: Are you sure that you're bind server is even running? james: /err?=(none)/hold/reinst-required/x=both-problems Dale: Do a dpkg -l bind9 james: (status,err: uppercase=bad) james: ok james: ii bind9 9.2.4-1 internet domain name server james: and same stuff above as when i did the dpkg -l bind Dale: I think that you're using the wrong config files, or the wrong version of bind. james: seems to be the case Dale: ii is good: install/installed james: what does rc mean? Dale: Switch back to bind8 then, and you'll use the version that I do. Dale: unless you have a reason to choose bind 9. james: so maybe my config files aren't in the proper location? james: ok, so apt-get remove bind9 and then reinstall 8? Dale: apt-get install bind will remove bind9 and reinstall bind 8 james: ok james: will i lose my named.conf and zone files? Dale: No, they belong to bind8 already. Dale: And by default it doesn't remove config files. james: ok Dale: Which is why they were there already. Dale: Daniel, I would certainly be willing to talk about other parts of that book that my slides were based on. james: actually it asked me if i want to install their version or keep mine Dale: Is there anything that you'd specifically like to hear about? james: and "n" means to keep mine Dale: I'd keep yours. james: ok, so it seems to have completed james: should i do a dpkg -l bind again? Dale: Sure. Dale: You should now see ii bind Daniel B: I didn't read the pdf file... but I certainly want to hear again the presentation james: ok, ii bind 8.4.6-1 idns james: so now i should try and look at the daemon log, right? Dale: So do a /etc/init.d/bind start james: ok Dale: then try the grep colecoshop.com /var/log/daemon.log Daniel B: For me, AI programming is a good subject. but for the non-programmers.... james: well we get output james: unfortunately it doesn't seem very happy Dale: There is lots to be said still about AI programming. Dale: The real issue is getting some interactive content into the presentation. Daniel B: Actually, I want to know how you can implement what you said at the Adamcon 12 if you set the walls in the WarmFuzzy game. Dale: James, what kind of output do you get? Dale: You're referring to: http://www.adamcon.org/~dmwick/adam/12/maze.html right? james: sec.. too much to type Dale: Well after AdamCon 12, I implemented this in assembly for an Adam supergame. james: stuff is invalid, database naming error etc Dale: I found that the algorithm I used was not as fast as it could be, and came up with a better method. james: wish putty would let me select a part of the screen to cut and paste. not the whole damn thing james: sec Dale: I think I presented it at AdamCon 13. james: ourd named: mail name "root.colecoshop.com.\(.colecoshop.com" (owner "colecoshop.com") IN (primary) is invalid - rejecting james: Jul 21 12:41:20 gourd named: /etc/bind/colecoshop.com:2: database naming error james: Jul 21 12:41:20 gourd named: /etc/bind/colecoshop.com:2: Database error near (bad name "root.colecoshop.com.\(.colecoshop.com") james: etc.. i think the other errors are being caused by the first james: i don't as far as i know, have a mail server set up yet james: is that a problem? james: test Daniel B: 1..2.. testing :-) Dale: Daniel are you still on? Daniel B: yes, i think so james: http://www.maquina.ws/maquina_3/photos/400_photos/coleco.jpg Dale: Well James, it looks like your missing a space between 'com.' and the '(' Daniel B: what is in this picture? james: i need a space there? oh.. Dale: Maybe AdamCon 14 -- but it looks like I didn't publish my notes from AdamCon 14 anywhere obvious. james: @dan, i think it's the hind end of a coleco truck Daniel B: yes, it's possible james: hmm.. restarted bind, it's still not happy Daniel B: but i'm looking for a picture of the company... must be one Dale: Here is a picture of my notes: http://www.adamcon.org/14/sat/P0002725med.jpg Dale: :-) james: still complaining about the mail name james: nano colecoshop.com james: oops Daniel B: yes, your notes... i saw a note about your project "adam street", what is this project? james: http://radio-canada.ca/actualite/montrealcesoir/v1/reportages/img/coleco.jpg Daniel B: ho! a building! james: @dale, do you have an ssh client? Daniel B: is it the one in Montreal? Dale: Is is a session I did at AdamCon 14 about writing "Interactive Fiction" james: @dan, not sure if the building is actually a coleco factor or not Dale: James, I thought you'd never ask. james: would be easier than my trying to relay all this stuff to you through the chat or ftping files over my local network and then emialing them to you james: let me email you some info Dale: I have never implemented the game that was described at AC14, but I may have included my outline for it in z80-3.zip perhaps. james: only thing i ask is that you don't change anything. let me do it so i can learn Dale: np James. james: http://www.dieterkoenig.at/ccc/bilder/s_story_baer13.jpg Daniel B: yes, I saw the sub-folder "adam street" james: at what email addy should i send you the info? Dale: firstname.lastname@example.org james: dan, if you are curious, i did my search under pictures at www.alltheweb.com james: sent Daniel B: thanks James! Daniel B: Yes, I'm curious, but I'm also tired... Good night Dale, James and Guy james: good night, dan! james: sent you the info, dale Dale: Is it okay for me to install screen, so that we can share a terminal window with each other? Dale: I'm online now. Dale: See you Daniel. james: sure Dale: Wow, 400 not upgraded? Dale: You are a might behind on updates. james: and i can't express enough my thanks for your help james: don't know how to update james: know nothng about recompiling kernels Dale: apt-get update Dale: apt-get upgrade james: that's it? Daniel B: take care <poof>
Daniel B left chat session Dale: Do it after I log off in case there are other tools that I need to install. james: ok Dale: Okay, pick a window, and type screen and hit enter twice. Guy Foster: I will be going to sleep too... Take care everyone. Dale: I'll use screen -x to join you. Dale: Guy F., it was great to meet you in person. Dale: Say hi to Sandra from Jill and I. james: ok. do i need to do the same? Dale: You need to type "screen" and hit enter twice james: lol. i'm gonna get a dunce cap :D james: sec, i'll do that Dale: Guy, I'm keen to see your mini space fighter when it is ready. james: ok, done james: ooh, elite, you like vi. nano is there too if you prefer Dale: Maybe I'll get back to some assembly programming when I've got the warm fuzzy game well rounded. Dale: Well James, I've used vi since 1990, so I'm used to it :-) james: i've used it a bit james: by no means comfortbable with it james: miyuki came in and i missed part of what you did
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