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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!!! rich-c: aha, Guy, made it this time rich-c: trouble with your DSL line again? Guy B.: I had to fix my phone line that had the DSL. It popped out of the jack. rich-c: I don't think I even want to know about that... Guy B.: Basically, I tripped on the line and that's how it popped out.
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changed username to Terry H rich-c: aside - do you know can you use Direct Computer Connection between a 98SE and X machine on USB? Guy B.: Abby is doing better. Her paws are healing up with antibiotics. Guy B.: Hi Terry Terry H: hello, new guy back. Happy turkey day almost rich-c: hello Terry, decided to visit us again? rich-c: not for us - we get the bird on what you call Columbus Day Guy B.: I don't think it will work. It usually requires a serial or parrelal connection. Terry H: yes, had to wor lasst wednesday so could not get on rich-c: yeah, that does tend to inhibit things 8 - ) Guy B.: Have you tried a crossover cable connection with the network? rich-c: so the pooch is getting you out for your daily walk again, is she, Guy? Guy B.: Yep, she is walking much better now. rich-c: both computers have USB ports and I have a USB null modem rich-c: feel free to dive in, Terry, if you have anything to contributte rich-c: you may also recall, Guy, that I've been having a wee tad of trouble getting the network to work? Guy B.: You would have to get soemthing like PC Relocator if you want to transfer programs between two PC's. USB connections will work with that program. Terry H: I thinks that u could try a serial cable I have ha had luck with that rich-c: not the objective, maybe just transfer files rich-c: not sure I have a serial null modem, Terry - parallel, yes, have used it before Guy B.: Yes, I remember that. You need to use the Microsoft network and install NetBeau and you can connect two PC's and transfer files. I do it all the time for mine. rich-c: (picture wild-eyed old coot diving into a box and tossing out wires while screaming cables! cables! cables") Terry H: i have not tried a usb before, will have to try, Guy B.: What you have to do is when you install the Microsoft network on you Win98 PC. You check the box that you want to share the files. The same for the other if it's Win98 or WinXP. rich-c: OK, if I can get the Microsoft Network set up, I'll be using Client for Microsoft Networks, right? Guy B.: Correct rich-c: then I'll have to go back and install NetBUE on both, is that it?
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changed username to BobS BobS: OK Pilgrims.........tis the bewitchignhour BobS: bewitching hour BobS: speak to me guys rich-c: sorry, our pilgtims came and went last month BobS: oh ok Guy B.: Yes and then when you reboot both computers. Go into My Computer and click on your C Drive then right click then click Properties. rich-c: like who'd give thanks for our winter ; - ) Guy B.: Hi Bob BobS: HI GUY rich-c: btw Roberto, is it snowing there too? BobS: richard, terry and undefined BobS: nope done snowing until late onight
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changed username to terry h Guy B.: Then you should see a Sharing tab and click on the Full button. You don't need to supply a password and then you can Map the drive on the other computer. Guy B.: Bob did you get that lake effect snow by you last night? terry h: I am using an air card and have a bad signal in a hotel. may have to try again later if I keep droping BobS: this morning guy rich-c: OK, whre are you at the moment then, Terry? terry h: in butler pa. Guy B.: We got a half inch here. All melted now. BobS: said we had about 3" rich-c: should know where that is, Terry, but can't quite place it. Southwest part of the state? BobS: started about 7am and built up until noon, then melted rich-c: we are supposed to get 2 to 5 CM (2") overnight, but cold and flurries tomorrow BobS: could get 5-7" tomorrow BobS: or not rich-c: since I have to drive up to teh sleep clinic for a session tomorrow night, I am less than enthusiastic Guy B.: Going to get cold here and a wind advisory is up for tonight and tomorrow. rich-c: we have it really weird - one of those days that drive Frances obsessive BobS: gonna stay at a hotel overnight yourself eh Richard????? rich-c: every time she turns on the weather radio or looks at Environment Canada or NOAA, she gets a different prediction BobS: well that is what they do !!!!!! change like the weather rich-c: well, hardly a hotel, Bob, especially since they get you up and turf you out by 7 a.m. 8 - ( BobS: I know, my dad went and is now using a breating machine.......and is sleeping a lot better rich-c: well, we seem to be in a quiet little oval that's calm when everything around is catching hell rich-c: yes, it's called a CPAP and is for sleep apnea - my younger brother considers his well worth the anoyance rich-c: actually all it does apparently is blow a breeze on your nose and mouth all night BobS: that's it BobS: but you get alot deeper sleep and breathing is forced, therefore regular rich-c: I could certainly use all teh help I could get right now - my blood oxygen is WAY down
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu BobS: oh oh, why?????? rich-c: salut, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: hello Terry, Rich, Bob, Guy! BobS: lungs not working effiecently? BobS: hey Daniel BobS: how are??????? Daniel Bienvenu: err... I'm fine!
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: well, the combination of pneumatic edema and COPD doesn't leave you excessive lung to work with, and if that isn't working well' Guy B.: Hi Daniel rich-c: I'm on Lasix which has almost no effect at a double dose though may be reducing teh edema slightly Daniel Bienvenu: Did you all receive the small gif file I sent in the adamcon mailing list? rich-c: pretty sure I did - the sudoku thing? Daniel Bienvenu: yeah! I tried to make it more Coleco Adam look by using the Coleco Ascii Pattern for the numbers
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changed username to Dale Dale: Hi all. rich-c: I suspect Pam got it but we didn't get around to that in our phone chat tonight Dale: Just dropping in to say hi. rich-c: hello Dale Daniel Bienvenu: Dale? are you the one who tried twice to connect to the chat session? Dale: Not me. Dale: I just came in now. Daniel Bienvenu: who is undefined then? BobS: Hi Dale Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Dale! rich-c: likely someone who tried to connect but couldn't hold - quite likely Terry again Dale: I got my new USB programmer tonight. I haven't had a chance to try it yet. But it looks good. rich-c: he's as a hotel with a dicey connection and keeps having trouble Daniel Bienvenu: I don't understand why you didn't received my letter yet rich-c: what does a USB programmer do, Dale? Dale: I think it can do EPROMs, PALs, and test simple logic gates. BobS: programs usb's.......... rich-c: OK, hardware then to program firmware - got it Dale: I bought it to program EPROMs for cartridges, MIB3 cards, etc. Guy B.: HI Dale Daniel Bienvenu: I think I will send you two other pcbs ... I still have your posting address. rich-c: (ingenuously) like a boot prom to let an MIB3 handle a hard disc drive? Dale: I haven't got your package yet Daniel. I think that the Christmas mail must be slower than in the summer. Dale: Exactly Richard. Something I've meant to get for a long time. Now I can make my own custom Hard Disk boot PROM. Daniel Bienvenu: it doesn'texplain why you receieved YOUr eprom programmer before my letter rich-c: (mental note carefully made and filed) rich-c: Dale, bet you'd know - can Direct Computer Connection be made to work bewteen 98SE and XP computers on a USB nul modem? rich-c: btw Guy, Pam did plan to get on tonight though as she has a cold not necessarily for long Guy B.: Hope she is feeling better Rich. rich-c: long as she doesn't fall asleep in front of the TV... Daniel Bienvenu: Dale, did you teST the minigames? Dale: Well, I bought the programmer on the 14th, and it was sent airmail to me and got here today, the 23rd. Daniel Bienvenu: I tried half of them Guy B.: Dale, I was telling Rich that it won't work. DCC expects either a serial or parallel cable connection. Dale: I figure it normally takes a package 3 days+ 5days to get here from you surface mail. rich-c: with all respect, Guy, Dale has a tendency to know things the rest of us don't rich-c: or he can be sure when we can only make informed guesses Dale: USB networking 1-1 devices do exist. Dale: Should work fine on 98SE and XP. Dale: I can't remember the brant -- maybe Belkin? Dale: brand of product that is./ rich-c: one would think, just haven't heard about it - or got that far into the XP help files Daniel Bienvenu: I sent my letter by mail around the november 11 Dale: Daniel, I've done some of the minigames, but I ahven't sent in marks yet. Do you think that the 4k Race Reloaded is favoured to win? rich-c: the device I have is a Mobility Data Link Cable- "easiest way to network your notebook to another Pc" Dale: I've never used it, all of my equipment has ethernet, so I usually use ethernet. rich-c: haven't opened the package yet so not sure if it supplies its own software Dale: It would have to Richard. Dale: It is something that requires some set up the first time. rich-c: with my medical problems of late I have little free time so I'm way behind on my computer mainteneance Guy B.: I did use DCC with a serial, but since I installed ethernet cards and used crossover cables. It's much faster doing it this way. Daniel Bienvenu: I didn't give 10/10 for 4k race minigame... it's not original to submit two times the same project. rich-c: since I normally will not want my computers networked, I'd rather have a more informal or casual device Dale: That's my feeling too. But it does look good. Last time it only had an 8/10 I think. rich-c: looks like Terry has lost his connection again rich-c: if you're interested, Dale, remember to ask me about the device next time we're on Daniel Bienvenu: the controls are just fine, but it's not my favorite in this contest. Dale: I really liked Bell Ringer 2, and 4kgyro the best so far in the 4k category. Daniel Bienvenu: I also saw that AtariAge is selling a multicart atari 2600 with the atari minigames submited this year. Dale: I think that I might be able to do 4kgyro in 1k next year. Dale: I'll ask you Richard. rich-c: I will try to find some time somewhre - at least there is only one football game this weekend
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changed username to <undefined> Dale: In the 1k category I'm looking forward to trying the cats game -- it looks interesting to me.
<undefined> changed username to Dr. D. Dr. D.: Hello everyone. Dr. D.: Sorry I have been away from the chats for so long. Dale: Anyway, I should really go again. Daniel Bienvenu: try to finish first your actUal minigames , Dale. ;-) Daniel Bienvenu: hello Dr..D Dale: Just wanted to check in and say hi. Dr. D.: This is the first Wednesday I don't have anything to do... rich-c: hello Rich - you all snowbound over there? BobS: hey "D Dr. D.: Getting there, Richard... BobS: \NOTHING???? Dr. D.: So glad to hear that you are improving...Cynthia sends me regular reports. BobS: Cleveland predicted 2 feet...... Dr. D.: We have perhaps 5 cm here, still coming down. Guy B.: Dr. D. How have you been? Dr. D.: Goodness knows what it is like a few miles east. Dale: Bye all. Dr. D.: Very busy Guy. Dale: See you next time. Dr. D.: Good night, Dale. Guy B.: Work? Guy B.: Bye Dale Dr. D.: I hope Erin's bus gets here okay...she is due at the Greyhound terminal downtown about 12:30 AM. Dr. D.: She is coming here for Thanksgiving. Dale: poof BobS: nite Dale Guy B.: She's coming over tonight? Dr. D.: I will take her back to Toronto Sunday, after driving Christina back to college in Erie. Dr. D.: Yes Guy.
Dale left chat session Dr. D.: She is en route, left Buffalo about an hour ago. Dr. D.: She sent me a Blackberry message before she signed off for a nap. Guy B.: Is it snowing out by you? Dr. D.: Lots, Guy. Guy B.: How much? Dr. D.: Nice snowman/snowball fight weather. Dr. D.: Few inches right now. Dr. D.: I bet it is more further east. Guy B.: You got more than Bob and I did. Dr. D.: It was blowy powder this afternoon. Dr. D.: Then the ground finally froze and it started to stick. Dr. D.: Slow going driving home about 5 PM today. rich-c: that's going to be a tough drive Sunday, on the weather probs Guy B.: Be careful when you pick Erin up. Dr. D.: Fortunately I have been parked and indoors since about 5:45 PM. Dr. D.: Yes indeed. Dr. D.: I will leave here about 11:45 PM, it's normally a 20-minute drive, but I won't take any chances. Dr. D.: So what is new with all of you folks> Dr. D.: ? Guy B.: We had a nasty train accident here this evening in Elmwood Park. An express train hit 15 cars. Dr. D.: I read Daniel's programming reports on the list. Daniel Bienvenu: be right back Dr. D.: Ai! Dr. D.: (about the wreck) rich-c: I'm having medical problems but Erin can likely fill you in - Pam will have told her Guy B.: The good news is no one was killed, but 10 injuries.
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: testing 1..2.. Daniel Bienvenu: ok, it's betWer now rich-c: back with us, Daniel Dr. D.: Like I said, Richard, Cynthia sends us reports...it sounded quite bad for a while, but now it sounds like you are improving. Daniel Bienvenu: the applet was too slow, I closed the browser and retry rich-c: I'll go get a beer to celebrate - a good St. Ambroise Biere Noire, of course... Guy B.: How is Christina doing in college Dr D.? Dr. D.: (just back from checking on an apple pie I have in the oven) Guy B.: Pass a slice when it's done. Dr. D.: She got back last Wednesday for Thanksgiving break. She got her report card today: one A, 3 B+. Dr. D.: She was happy, and so were we. rich-c: well, let's say teh doctor was optimistic enough to set the next appointment for Dec. 22 Daniel Bienvenu: Is there somebody who was upset to see a sudoku puzzle in the adamcon mailing list? Guy B.: Wow, she is doing great. Dr. D.: The pie is for dinner at my Dad's tomorrow, Guy :-) Guy B.: Well, I'll be baking pumpkin. Dr. D.: It's the same recipe I used last month for Canadian Thanksgiving: I visited Erin and her family in Windsor, and baked them a pie. Dr. D.: Actually 2 pies. Dr. D.: This apple pie is seasoned with pumpkin pie seasoning. Dr. D.: Next ADAMcon I can bake one I guess :-S Guy B.: That should be a new taste experience. Dr. D.: Christina is really liking school, though her first best friend there is transferring to another school because she got too homesick. Dr. D.: It is yummy, bit of cinnamon in it. Guy B.: Sounds even better. Dr. D.: She also "officially" has a boyfriend, she is going to "introduce" him this weekend. Dr. D.: He went to the same elementary and middle school as her, but moved away in 8th grade...somehow they hooked up again, and there you go. BobS: oh man.....NOW you got to watch that girl Guy B.: I'll be working on the convention later next month. Have a couple of hotels I would like to look at. Dr. D.: I am not worried Bob, she has a good head on her shoulders...she didn't date any in high school (nor did I), so I am sympathetic. Dr. D.: ADAMcon, wow, only 6 months away :-) BobS: tell her to keep it slow doc rich-c: well away from rail crossings with defective gates, I trust, Guy 8 - ) Daniel Bienvenu: I'm hungry now BobS: but being young,.......won'thelp to tell her Daniel Bienvenu: be right back Guy B.: Might be late July/early August. Will let you all now. Guy B.: know. rich-c: preferably away from teh major pollution areas
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changed username to Ron defined Dr. D.: Experience is only learned by experience, Bob. Ron defined: Is there life? rich-c: hello ye of the Wet Coast Dr. D.: Hi Mr. Mitchell sir. Guy B.: Hi ron Ron defined: foggy coast is more like it Ron defined: haven't seen the sky or any further than 1/4 mile for the past 5 days Guy B.: You get the fog. We get the snow and cold. Dr. D.: We have snow here, bet you won't want to trade though. rich-c: somewhat fresh-frozen here but so far most of us are making it through BobS: I guess, but you always hopw that the experience will be gained headed in the right direction Ron defined: negative Ron defined: subject? Dr. D.: predicate nominative Dr. D.: ablative case Dr. D.: with a dangling participle Ron defined: :( rich-c: likely means a warm front, Ron - send it over to us when you're finished with it; we can use it Ron defined: will do Rich rich-c: who are you picking for the Grey Cup? Dr. D.: White Thanksgiving means Green Christmas around here. BobS: coldest air of the new winter season coming towards us tomoorw Ron defined: but then a gerund can be a subject Dr. D.: Using a gerund as a subject is a fun task. Ron defined: we been chilly, but not as bad as you guys rich-c: (would you believe in this weather I just had a FRUIT FLY buzzing me!!!) Dr. D.: <that was an example> Dr. D.: I guess you have to eat your fruit faster Richard :-) Ron defined: yes, exactly - grammatically correct Dr. D.: My favorite bit of grammar humor is perhaps the ultimate oxymoron" rich-c: as you know I'm finding it prudent to keep large stocks, Rich Dr. D.: (meant a colon : there) Dr. D.: "The passive voice is to be avoided" Ron defined: went out today looking at computing devices (as in new in the store) Ron defined: my Duron is beginning to P me off Dr. D.: At the Apple Store, Ron? Ron defined: nope Ron defined: the other side of the street Dr. D.: I gave my PowerBook to a Genius in September to get fixed. rich-c: the way things are going in goodies for dollars now, by January they'll be paying you to take them away Ron defined: looking at an AMD 64 Ron defined: type box Ron defined: Oh I won't buy anything stupid before Christmas Ron defined: jut looking (ahem!) Ron defined: just that should be Dr. D.: My latest Wintel offering is only a P3-450 MHz with Win98...so I am behind the times, Ron. rich-c: have you seen the stuff MDG is offering or are they not out your way yet? Ron defined: and doing just fine, I bet Ron defined: no, not west here yet MDG Ron defined: but then we have London Drugs Ron defined: which sells more electronics than drugs rich-c: if you get HUB magazine you'll get a good idea of what dealers are offerinmg Ron defined: Have a wish to deal locally in any case Ron defined: have my friends rich-c: anyway I have an Athlon 1600XP in the desktop and Sempron 2888+ (64) in the laptop, both of which overpower me Daniel Bienvenu: hello Ron! Daniel Bienvenu: (I was away...) Ron defined: Hi Daniel Ron defined: @Daniel: did you send me a pic for the Xmas card? rich-c: yes, but if your buddies know you know what the market is, they usually want to stay friends... Daniel Bienvenu: @ron: I sent a santa clauss Ron defined: well let's just say I'm prepared to pay more to support locals Daniel Bienvenu: @ron: only a few days after your message Ron defined: ok.... Daniel, would you send it again please? rich-c: shame, Daniel - from you we expect a Pere Noel Ron defined: I thought you had, but around here there are so many boxes receiving mail that I tend to lose things Daniel Bienvenu: yes, I can send it again Ron defined: Thank you sir rich-c: around here the locals tend to be cheaper than the office chains or Dell - yours could be the same Ron defined: pretty much Rich, let's just say they're generally quite aware of what the big boxes are offering Dr. D.: Guys, I have to logout now to attend to my pie...Happy Thanksgiving to all on this side of the border, and Happy Start of Winter Weather for everyone on the other side :-) Ron defined: and prepared to match or beat Ron defined: yes, Rich Happy Thanksgiving Ron defined: and enjoy the pie rich-c: besides, buy a white box and you get to configure it to what you want, not what somebody else thinks you might like Dr. D.: I get 2 turkeys this fall, I feel lucky :-) BobS: same to you doc Dr. D.: <poof>
Dr. D. left chat session rich-c: take it easy Rich, hope the kids have a safe trip Ron defined: yes Rich, that's true.. Ron defined: anyway..... we'll see what boxing week brings Ron defined: meanwhile, I'm in no rush rich-c: I picked a pricey but VERY capable motherboared, my choice of CPU, memory, hard disc side, graphics - in short, the lot Ron defined: Yes, I thought about that.... and I've done it before (Duron is a case in point), but I dunno - I'm not in the mood as I used to be Daniel Bienvenu: @ron : your email start with bytehacker? Ron defined: yup Daniel Ron defined: email@example.com rich-c: yes, lay back, relax, figure exactly what you want, in the interval till you're sure the prices will only drop anyway Ron defined: indeed rich-c: I actually consider the motherboard and all it will support most important of all Daniel Bienvenu: you got mail Ron defined: Got it Daniel Ron defined: thanks rich-c: oh yes, in my highly prejudiced view, Win98SE is less annoying (if less capable than) Win XP Ron defined: If I should ask you again - it's on my Duron - in Outlook Express Daniel Bienvenu: Do you need more pictures? I can work on more this week-end Ron defined: believe you're right Rich Ron defined: Since I got the camcorder, I've been into video processing. The Duron will do it, but with a fair amount of sluggishness rich-c: early word is, if you think X is bad, wait till you see Vista - Pheeew! Ron defined: oh really? rich-c: won't your motherboard take an upgrade to a faster Duron or Athlon? and is the graphics board up to it anyway? Ron defined: @Daniel... well sir, yes, I could use a few - although I've downloaded some clip are and ported it over to ADAM. Probably have enough, but it would be nice to have your particpation Daniel Bienvenu: @Ron: ok Ron defined: probably - that might be an option Ron defined: but the beast is 5 years old Ron defined: memory upgrade might provide interim improvement (512 Meg to a Gig) rich-c: sorry, I tend to viw that as barely broken in Ron defined: not sure yet how I will proceed on that rich-c: I feel I hit a sweet spot with my Athlon 1600XP - there is no way anything AI do can press irs limits Ron defined: there was a time when I would have too Rich rich-c: and at that, I havent challenged the limits, like using the RAID capability Ron defined: Well, we'll see. I just put in a ATI TV/graphics card, and the beast is not comfortable with it Ron defined: don't suppose that's really justification for turfing my good and faithful servant rich-c: saw a report saying SATA is fantastic on paper and in performance, but is indistinguishable from a conventional hardd disc in speed rich-c: on the contrary, if it can't do the job you need (or be coaxed to do it) it's time to change Ron defined: Meanwhile, have my ADAM set up in the piano room, and honestly, it feels like I'm home whenever I sit there Ron defined: all this other stuff notwithstanding rich-c: I can identify with that - though for Frances it takes an Amiga Ron defined: :) BobS: the ADAM is surely simpler Ron defined: life was simpler then rich-c: total change of topic upcoming, gentlemen Ron defined: go rich-c: have any of you noticed that the Tempurpedic mattress patent appears to have expired? Ron defined: I'm now very happy that I did not turf all the 5-1/4 inch disks Ron defined: hadn't, no rich-c: which means that even though they can't allude to the Tempurpedic in their ads, others can clone it Ron defined: yes? rich-c: they do show diagrams, though, that indicate inner workings the same as the pricey version rich-c: anyway, I bought one and installed it some few days ago rich-c: previously I had a custom cut polyurethane mattress which served me comfortably and well BobS: ya don't install a mattress ///// you just throw it onto the bed frame rich-c: but when I saw the TP clone at a decent price I bought it Ron defined: I'd like one of these adjustable jobbies.... so I could prop up and watch TV while falling asleep rich-c: conclusive rsults are not yet in, but I feel I am likely sleeping better on the new one than the old one Ron defined: anything for a good night's sleep Rich Ron defined: what I need to remember is.... if I want to sleep, I have to lie down rich-c: it isn't adjustable, but if you're not happy with the sleeping qualities of what you've got, look for the new one Ron defined: indeed rich-c: they're new so I can't suggest names but look for the ads which give the game away rich-c: and Bob, you will find at least one brand in Wal-Mart Ron defined: right Ron defined: ah.... venerable Mal Wart BobS: ya but I don't need one rich-c: well, that isn't quite the adjective I (or certain others) might use, but BobS: but alas......I can't hardly keep me eyes open here......... Ron defined: I, on the other hand, - perhaps I should buy a bed, rather than another computer BobS: gonna have to say NITE BobS: see yo all next week Ron defined: commin' up on bedtime Bob Ron defined: niters, my son BobS: ya REAL quick
BobS left chat session rich-c: gee, you usually last a little longer - guess it's because Judy isn't on 8 - ) Guy B.: Bye Bob Ron defined: will have the card your was asap.... got your message re Jan 15 Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight Bob.... Daniel Bienvenu: oops rich-c: nite Bob rich-c: @Ron: decisions, decisions Ron defined: terrible, isn't it Guy B.: Guess I'll take off too. I'm off tomorrow and Friday. I'll see you all next week. Ron defined: good for you Guy Ron defined: enjoy the time off rich-c: OK Guy, good luck on the hotel hunt - and the weather! Guy B.: Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Ron defined: ok, righty Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session Ron defined: And I should go do some more on the ADAM rich-c: gee, just us tougher Canadians left now ; - ) Ron defined: will at least pick off Daniel's picture Ron defined: tough and robust Ron defined: that's us rich-c: so last round: who are you picking Sunday? Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit tout le monde! Daniel Bienvenu: aurevoir Ron defined: Hoping for Edmonton (obviously) but don't have a great deal of confidence Daniel Bienvenu: talk to you next wednesday rich-c: a la prochaine, Daniel Ron defined: night sir
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session Ron defined: I shall watch it with interest rich-c: yes, I'm not fond of either, but Edmonton may be more deserving Ron defined: we shall see rich-c: if only all their superior opponents (in the semis and finals) hadn't thrown their games away Ron defined: Just watched a heated debate on TV between Matt Dunnigan and George Climie Ron defined: re the effectiveness of Ricky Ray rich-c: you just can't hand out six or more turnovers and win a football game Ron defined: yes... that's gonna be an issue Ron defined: Jacques Climie rich-c: so what did Matt and Jock have to say? they are both seriously bright observers Ron defined: Dunnigan felt that Troy Davis had shut down Ray - Climie begged to differ Ron defined: they were about as pointed in their debate as they were allowed to get Ron defined: Not even sure who Davis plays for..... wasn't paying close enough attention rich-c: I suspect I'd be with Jock on that - I didn't feel Ray (or Danny Machocia) really used Davis properly at all Ron defined: that was the essence of the discussion rich-c: Troy Davis is the running back Edmonton picked up from Hamilton in mid-season, to get an effective running game Ron defined: ok, thank you rich-c: they got it but have not always used it well Ron defined: I don't do a very good job of following the trades rich-c: even indoors, you can't win without at least teh credible threat of the run Ron defined: yes..... the pass will only take you so far. BC sometimes tends to be a big play club, and can't move along the ground - then sometimes they can.... you just never know rich-c: my own guess is the two highest priced quarterbacks in the league may be looking for new opportunities this off season rich-c: I als think teh same will apply to Toronto's punt return star Ron defined: there was a report last night that the Lions will have to ditch one or the other of theirs Ron defined: both want the starters job Ron defined: Dickinson and Printers rich-c: but Printers comes cheaper, seems less fragile, and has proven he can win a lot of games Ron defined: yup.... that's how I see it. But they keep putting Dickinson in there Ron defined: Whatever they had going at the beginning of the season, they've lost rich-c: besides their third string backup is pretty promising, too - and Wally Buono knows how to build winning teams Ron defined: Wally doesn't want to tip his hand Ron defined: oh yes Ron defined: we seem to have this trouble in Vancouver..... flashes of brilliance, then thud Ron defined: same with the Canucks rich-c: smart coaches never do - but some folks can find messages between the lines, or even in what isn't said Ron defined: oh we've had a following of sports journalists in Vancouver trying to do that since last year Ron defined: Printers got off to such a fine start last year when Dickinson was out rich-c: yes; of course the Toronto media are infamous for theircollection of columnists offering coaches the benefit of their superior wisdom Ron defined: right Ron defined: Wally should do this..... Wally should do that...... I'm sure he reads every word rich-c: anyhow, old buddy, seems it's nearing bedtime in our neck of the woods Ron defined: yes sir....well rest well. Talk to you later rich-c: and time to continue my testing of the new mattress Ron defined: write a report Ron defined: nite Rich rich-c: think about that - niteers for now Ron defined: poooof
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