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changed username to rich-c rich-c: hey, youse guys is yumpin the gun! Russ: oops rich-c: Bob I know, welcome Russ whoever you may be ;-) Russ: <------new Russ: hello rich-c: noticed you were here earlier, Russ Russ: i've been a little excited about checking this out rich-c: well, feel free to introduce yourself - or just lurk if that pleas3es you more Russ: recently pulled my ADAM out rich-c: we're just a bunch of folks so nuts we still play with 23 year old computers BobS: rioght mates......how are???? rich-c: hi Robrt, how are things in Grand Rapids? rich-c: we have a visitor ith us - neat, eh? BobS: welcome then Russ.....hope you are a "yank", as richard likes to day.....I feel a littel outnumbered here sometimes you know Russ: wisconsin here BobS: COOL mon !!!!!! rich-c: aw come on, teh Canadians are more talkative but still outnumbered - when everyone turns up BobS: michigan here BobS: RISHCARD you are OUT numbered BobS: anwhere near milwaukee????? Russ: just north.....Grafton rich-c: jeeze, I'll have to phone Pamela (my daughter, Russ) and tell her to get on BobS: think we had some guys in Mil with ADAM's rich-c: that was history, I'm afraid, Bob Russ: cool. I know noone with an ADAM rich-c: I'm hoping to get out to Wisconsin in September BobS: richard, remember the Milwaukee guy????? wasn't colecoguy, but something like that BobS: have his name on the tip of my tongue......... BobS: but....... rich-c: well hey, Russ, that's what the internet is for - now you'll meet a number rich-c: there is also a mailing list you can join BobS: he has stopped in here.....and the professor from Chicago.....Willie B !!!!! Russ: i'll have to sign up rich-c: wasn't teh oen from Milwaukee the security expert? rich-c: how does Dale have the list set up for new subscribers, Bob? rich-c: is it self-register or apply, so to speak? BobS: let me think/////// BobS: OR let me get it...... http://www.adamcon.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coladam and then sign up !!!! rich-c: anyway, it's coladam@adamcon.org, right? BobS: yes he was in security rich-c: forget his handle, but it's Michael who uses Colecoguy BobS: wasn't michael BobS: he even had the domain name locked up for wahile rich-c: btw fair warning now, I am using the world's most screwwed up computer at the moment and may crash out anytime Russ: it can't be an ADAM then BobS: figures, you always get knocked off rich-c: and Frances is using the laptop so I don't have a backup ;-( BobS: naw, Richard likes those ibm animals Russ: we have some mac users here? rich-c: no, I followed Microsoft's instructions in installing an XP upgrade Russ: never upgrade, i've heard rich-c: now I've had one of their escalation engineers (in China, I suspect) working on it for two weeks trying to unscrew it
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changed username to *Geoff!* rich-c: no, I show myself here *Geoff!*: That's better. Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Geoff! *Geoff!*: Hey there. rich-c: hey Geoff, back for a rerun - good to see you BobS: Hi Geoff Russ: hi Geoff BobS: well just b ecause you think you are here, Richard, maybe you are dreamong rich-c: Geoff, Russ is an Adam owner who just found us Daniel Bienvenu: Welcome Russ! Russ: Thanks Dan *Geoff!*: Hey Russ. :) rich-c: I admit I likely shouldn't believe what this machine tells me at this stage BobS: maybe Geoff remembers.......a guy in Milwaukee....in security business.......heavy into ADAM at one time and still interested *Geoff!*: nope! Fraid not... Russ: you've not no backup Bob rich-c: you been following the discussion on disc drives on the mailing list, Geoff?
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: did you post any advice for Dana? Russ: disc drives? i need to get on that list rich-c: greetings, duaghter BobS: mostly IF you do NOT know how to fix a disk drive, you are screwed and need another working one Pamela: g'day rich-c: I picked up Hub for you today Pamela: thank you : ) BobS: g'day me matetress rich-c: you can pick it up when you bring over the lampshade Pamela: 'kay, Dad *Geoff!*: Hard to tell from the description, but I would think that since the drive is acting as though the computer is off...(i.e. drive light on all the time) BobS: is that wahta a girl mate is called????????? *Geoff!*: and he's already checked the cabling... Pamela: dunno, Bob Daniel Bienvenu: (loading my emails...) Daniel Bienvenu: hi Pam! Pamela: allo, Daniel BobS: ya, missed the part about light on all the time, that is classic cable in wrong port rich-c: I have two MI drives for sale, but I need to see $150 each out of them - under my cost, btw BobS: what sizes?????? *Geoff!*: yeah, could be that. rich-c: I do not think many flks will view this with enthusiasm or even understand rich-c: one 320 one 720, effectivewly brand new rich-c: demo miles only, you might say BobS: 2 things VERY important with ADAM disk drives......cable in correct port AND drive turned on...... Russ: MI drives? BobS: I hate to tell you how many times I have had the drive off and can't figure out WHY the darn puter won't work *Geoff!*: I have fixed one bad drive controller in the past... can't remember what was wrong with it though. Russ: are those hard drives or floppy? rich-c: Micro Innovations - Mark Gordon built them Russ: d'oh. i;ve heard of them rich-c: double density floppies, 5.25" and 3.5" respective;ly BobS: used to be Dan Elliiot in Missouri was the disk drive repair whiz, but last I heard, he is not doing them anymore rich-c: Pam, did you get the gmail invitation? Pamela: I did, thanks Dad rich-c: right, and teh same for Harold Pines *Geoff!*: If anyone has a drive that they'd like me to try and repair, I'd be willing to give it a shot. Russ: i have a drive question Russ: i've got a 5.25 drive but no power cord Pamela: brb, gonna go check something out
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changed username to GuyzzzF BobS: can check out voltages adn let you know Russ........nothing exciting, just need the correct (think 12v or 5v) voltage adn polarity BobS: hey Guy GuyzzzF: Hi Bob! Hi everyone. BobS: got a newer guy than you mon.......say HI to Russ form Wisconsin Russ: i don't know if it works, i wouldn't have a problem buying the correct one but want to check it out first rich-c: now there's our Montrealer - good day, Mr. Foster Russ: hi Guy GuyzzzF: haha, good day Rich. Daniel Bienvenu: Hi GuyF GuyzzzF: Salut Dan. GuyzzzF: HI Russ. BobS: the ZZZZZZ man is from up ther in the far north also Russ *Geoff!*: It's just a 9V AC power supply. As long as the new supply is rated over 31VA, you're okay. *Geoff!*: Atari used the same power brick for some of their early 8-bit computers and disk drives (Atari 400 I think used one). rich-c: what about teh connecting cable, Geoff? IIRC it's a little unique? BobS: Mitchell had this plug into the wall sucker with screw leads to go to the dirve BobS: frive rich-c: silly but I can't look at mine because my Coleco drives are down in the basement, where be dragons BobS: drive rich-c: no pushpins? ; - ) rich-c: (private joke, Russ) BobS: not your standard 4 wire phone cable, but one with 6 wires all hooked up Daniel Bienvenu: I received good news about the special minigame multicart hardware tests. Micheal want to do a real test with a valid software menu and some minigames. BobS: NO pushpins OR alligator clips richard rich-c: that's for teh data and no sweat to get, but what about the power cord from the power supply to the drive? GuyzzzF: Dan: Thanks for your effort, I'd really like to see that cart published one day, would be nice to have as a memory of my Colecovision programming efforts. BobS: only 2 wires and has to fit the plug in rich-c: yes, but isn't that what Russ is saying he is lacking? *Geoff!*: I'm looking at a schematic for the controller right now... Russ: I have the cord that connects the drive to the computer Russ: just looking for a plug to give the thing juice rich-c: yes, that's your six-wire RJ-11 for teh Adamnet Russ: looks like the keyboard wire right? rich-c: you do have the power cube and its wall plug? *Geoff!*: he still needs a power supply though. rich-c: right, Russ Russ: no wall plug rich-c: uh? Russ: just the unit and a cable to plug into the ADAM
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BobS confirmed ban rich-c: but the wall plug is built into the pow3er supply cube - well, hardwired rich-c: btw Pam, it's a huge mess still but I am on with the desktop right now Russ: just looked at my drive. it has a spot labeled power with a little hole under it rich-c: am I still on? rich-c: right - the disc drive uses an external power supply, a little bronze-coloured cube rich-c: you'll also find a switch on the back to designate drive 1 or 2 BobS: more like a drab brownish green isn't it????? Russ: never seen it....bought the thing off eBay a few years ago with an ADAM rich-c: your basement must be even damper than mine! ; - ) Russ: i do see a switch rich-c: OK Geoff is the guy who can tell you how to get a replacement for the power supply *Geoff!*: The drive I have right now has a black transformer instead of the usual beige colored one. rich-c: the MI power supplies are big black bricks, but his is a Coleco (I assume) BobS: the switch is to set it for drive 1 or drive 2 Russ BobS: IF you have 2 drives *Geoff!*: Yeah, mine's stamped with the same label as the beige one, but it's black. Russ: ok BobS: 12vac is good, but which is + and - inside of plug or outside.......assume inside is + but not sure rich-c: really? you have a prize - I've never seen or heard of a black one BobS: me niether BobS: neither BobS: OR someone painted the thing *Geoff!*: yeah, it's unusual. All the atari ones are this color.
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rich-c confirmed ban rich-c: yes, Guy. got us a place to get together yet? BobS: Guy, Russ is in your neck of the country Guy B.: I'm working on it. This is tenative, but I'm looking at July 13-16. BobS: cool works for me.......... Guy B.: And I'm, BobS: I am easy though you understand BobS: what????? rich-c: I can live with that, but you have to hurry 'cause folks have to book holidays early Guy B.: And I'm looking at surgery for my right hand. BobS: right matey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BobS: well you can have surgery the week before and then rest it rich-c: before you look at that, Guy, look awfully closely at your medical plan and company policy on long leaves Guy B.: It will out for me as well, since when I return to work. I'm probably will be starting overtime again. rich-c: also look at some of the support groups on the subject- they can be seriously scary *Geoff!*: I believe this is the same PS as the ADAM drive one.... http://cgi.ebay.com/Power-Supply-for-Atari-400-800-video-game-system_W0QQitemZ8265662448QQcategoryZ41008QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Daniel Bienvenu: strange to not see Dale online tonight... I've got a new email from him now. *Geoff!*: yeah, I got that too. Guy B.: Right now. I haven't decided on setting a date for the surgery. But, I'm looking at two weeks off from work and a 6 to 8 week recovery with a 95 success rate.
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: Dale usually has his hands too full to join us, Daniepity because if he does come on he can add Russ to teh mailing list tout suite Guy B.: And I goy my new Dell notebook today. I haven't opened the box yet. Russ: i think i have a p\PS for an Atari 800 somewhere Russ: PS i mean Pamela: Hi, I'm back Guy B.: HI Daniel BobS: YIKES Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Guy! *Geoff!*: I believe that's what you'll need... I think the 400/800 PS is the same thing. Guy B.: HI Pam Russ: sweet Pamela: I don't know how you stand the suspense, Guy - I'd have it open right away *Geoff!*: Look on the back and see if it sez 9VAC 31VA. BobS: bout time my dear rich-c: Pam, Source is offering the updated clone of my notebook for $700 this week Pamela: sorry, was checking some stuff, and on dial up, it takes a while. Plus I had a site which didn't want to load Pamela: interesting Dad, but I'm not there yet Guy B.: Well, I got home late due to a freight train and I had to pick up Annie. Then we have the rain here. Pamela: er?? a freight train?? rich-c: that's OK, another two months and it will likely be $500 Pamela: you have to explain that one : ) Russ: not to be retarded but where would it say 9VAC 31VA? Guy B.: There is a railroad crossing on the way home. Pamela: Just how long was that train?? rich-c: I would think, daughter, that you are sufficiently familiar with grade crossing delays? Pamela: yes, but the seldom last more than five minutes Guy B.: Don't tell that to me here. *Geoff!*: Russ, on the back of the supply it should say Pamela: sorry : ) rich-c: well Pamela mostly only has to cope with little commuter trains Pamela: I guess they don't want to tie up the bus routes for too long Pamela: we get the odd freight train, mostly later at night and mostly about 25 to 30 cars long - about five minutes Daniel Bienvenu: (PRIVATE) What was the 'convoy' you talked about earlier? BobS: raining here too Guy Russ: it gives some info....60Hz, 120V, output +5V, DC 1.5A Pamela: so Guy, have we got a convention date yet? *Geoff!*: nope... that won't do it... rats. Guy B.: Off and on? That's what it has been doing here. Russ: actually this plug is a 7 pin, maybe this isn't right? Guy B.: I'm looking at July 13-16. *Geoff!*: nope... should have the same barrel plug as the drive. Pamela: okay, good. Our vacation calendars came out today and they have to be back by March 31st rich-c: but are you looking at a place, Guy? any quotes yet? BobS: (PRIVATE) just an old joke Daniel.....about having more than one truck ( or people....or whatever) going the same way Russ: i'm sure with all the classic systems i have, i got something laying around here Guy B.: I'm going to have Jeanene call the hotel I would like to have convention at and see if I can get something setup. I'll keep you all posted. rich-c: time's a'flitting, Guy - some of our limited-leave folks are getting antsy Daniel Bienvenu: j'ai faim! brb Pamela: well, I'll book that week and if necessary, I can change it later. As long as I don't clash with my relief, I should be okay BobS: ya mon.....remember last year, when we were all worried about Dale getting a place.....WE'S HERE MON rich-c: so Daniels's hungry - guess he was wroking late again Pamela: brb, rich-c: where is Rin tonight, Pam? She and Dr.D. on Messanger? Russ: anyone know about ADAM expansion cards....how to identify them as to what they are? Guy B.: You guys have to be patient. I have been having a few problems of my own and now the surgery for my right hand and the left could be next. rich-c: well, there are teh memory cards, and the MIB-3 basically *Geoff!*: Russ: how many pins are on the card edge? rich-c: the MIB-3 has serial and parallel ports, a fancy version has a boot prom for a hard disc Russ: 22 pins, 2nd slot rich-c: what sort of connectors does it have on it? *Geoff!*: That's probably a serial card... Russ: i have a 64k expander...it states that on the card at least rich-c: don't serial cards usually get put in the first slot, Goeff? Russ: it has 6 different chips... Russ: a chip that looks like something couldplug into Russ: and a chip with pins sticking out of it *Geoff!*: Sounds like maybe an MIB-3 card. *Geoff!*: Does it have any connectors on it, jumper blocks, etc? BobS: Russ...go here.... http;//ann.hollowdreams.com and then follow the links to get to ADAM'S House.....Terry has pics on there of different boards rich-c: doubt it Geoff, the MIB-3 has the two sets of connector pins across the top Pamela: Dad, Erin probably worked late tonite - she was off for two days with a nasty cold and so is probably catching up rich-c: yes, at the moment they have a lot of prep to do for the early budget Pamela: sorry, the food thought set up a train of thought which I had to go deal with to avert yogurt disaster Russ: Geoff...i'm not real familiar with terms like jumper blocks BobS: the pics of the ADAM boards are kind of crude Russ, but gives an idea.....eack board should have SOME identification on it rich-c: that's OK, soon it will be time for my biere noire - et jai un grand soif BobS: very few had nothing on them Pamela: it's 10:00 - do you know where your beer is? *Geoff!*: sorry... I'm a little disconnected right now... talking to the girl on the phone too. :) bbl. BobS: in da fridge!!!!!!!!! rich-c: you got it, Roberto BobS: gettin' cool mon rich-c: but not for much longer Russ: i'll have to look osme more for pics. i haven't found any yet that look like what i've got rich-c: no numbers or maker's name or anything? BobS: you could always buy one from Terry for $20 for the power supply........sucks eh?????? bad idea :-( rich-c: wonder if it could be a dot matrix printer interface card? they were often anonymous (for good reason) rich-c: also have teh strange pin or apparently useless hole where you connect the addressing wire for memories over 64K Russ: there's a PVK-1JK-AS Russ: and it says mem and adr under that rich-c: got a serial cable you could t4ry to see if it fits teh pin setup? could be a clue Russ: there's numbers on the chips BobS: hmmmm doesn't sound familiarlike BobS: like Russ: there's 2 rows of 13 pins each rich-c: my printer interface card has 22 pins on teh connecting edge BobS: wrote it down, will research it with cards I have ........ later rich-c: no maker name - lettering HE 3 VO OW P Russ: the opins are in even rows...aren't most connectors more on top and 1 or 2 less on the bottom?
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changed username to Dr.D. Pamela: Hi, Rich Dr.D.: Hi everyone. rich-c: hi Rich Dr.D.: Sorry I am late, was on the phone with Rin, she is sick again. rich-c: Russ, the chips are SN74L series Dr.D.: She missed 2 days of work and was sent home early today. Pamela: I wondered about that Dr.D.: If she is not better by Friday, she will not be able to get through the border on the bus to come visit Cleveland this weekend :-( Pamela: what, the Americans don't want her germs? : ) rich-c: Russ, when I say connecting edge I mean the surface that plugs into the slot on the Adam Dr.D.: Nothing that looks like avian influenza. Russ: one chip has MDP1601-332G on it another has GRAYKILL and under that open on it rich-c: not a row of freestanding pins like it has on the top Pamela: this cold that's been going around is a nasty one, known for it's Klingon tendencies Russ: the area that plugins to the slot on the adam has 22 pins, the pins on the card in that slot has 26 (2 rows of 13) Pamela: she will more than likely be well enough to travel by Friday Dr.D.: I dunno, she is hacking pretty bad right now, and I don't mean on her ADAM, either. Pamela: SOP when she's sick, Rich rich-c: I am at least 99.9% certain what you have is a serial printer interface card - the whole description matches mine Daniel Bienvenu: hi Dr.D Dr.D.: Hi Daniel, I am sorry I missed last week's chat...I hope you are feeling somewhat better now. Russ: and that's used for what? hooking up a printer I assume? BobS: serial ???????? or parallel BobS: ya mon BobS: at one time it was possible to hook up an Okidata serial printer BobS: mostly there were paralle printer cards though Daniel Bienvenu: about my grandma, it's better now. about my job, it's something else. we are in a rush now at my work. Russ: ahhh....looks pretty old to me. didn't know that was an option back then Pamela: Rich, do you want me to go check on her? Dr.D.: We had a Silver-Reed serial printer for our Sanyo MS-DOS clone in 1985 :-) Dr.D.: I just put her to bed, was talking to her on the phone. rich-c: I am running a AStar NX-1000 dot matric printer (9 pin) off mine rich-c: some people could run 24 pin printers but I couldn't - no one knows why BobS: it's becasue of your yank blood living up in canada........
(BobS gives rich-c a nice tall frosty Guinness) Dr.D.: A quick question for Guy B.: any idea when a weekend will be chosen for ADAMcon? Russ: hmmm...don't really have much need for another printer on my ADAM or the card for that matter. rich-c: brb - gotta go get a glass for that stout Dr.D.: It is getting to be time for me to plan what I am doing in July... BobS: ya Dr.D.: My June is already filled up. Pamela: he said July 13 - 16, Rich - I asked the same question earlier Dr.D.: Thanks Pam. Guy B.: Dr. D., glad you asked. I'm looking at July 13-16. Dr.D.: I will put it into the info queue Daniel Bienvenu: Hey Dr.D! are you still working on coleco/adam schematics and documents restoring? Dr.D.: One plan is for Rin to take the train to Windsor beforehand to visit her family, I drive there one day, we leave for Chicago the next. Dr.D.: I haven't done anything recently, Daniel. Dr.D.: All the scans I had, I put on my webpage; nobody has given me any more. Russ: do any board schematics exist? Dr.D.: Yes Russ BobS: ya mon Russ: i have a broken capacitor on a board. don't know the rating tho Dr.D.: http://drushel.cwru.edu/schematics/ BobS: almost EVERYTHING exists, tis just a matter of finding it rich-c: yes, Windsor - Chicago is not a devestating drive BobS: tis an easy one mon Dr.D.: Cleveland-Chicago isn't either, just 6 hours. BobS: YOU have GOT to slow down on the turnpile Dr D Dr.D.: Then we would come back to Cleveland, then maybe on to Toronto. rich-c: really? from Toronto it is much more than that Guy B.: Annie had quite a day last Saturday. Dr.D.: I don't speed BobS: oh ok Pamela: yeah, but add another six hours for Toronto to Cleveland and that's a long drive rich-c: then you should so you don't get run over ;-) Dr.D.: I was just remembering when I went to Neurosciences National Meeting there in 1993 or 1994, memory is of 6-hour trip. Pamela: I'm thinking we might fly rich-c: though actually in Ohio it isn't necessary Dr.D.: I do note that most traffic on the QEW and 401 moves at 120-130 kph Dr.D.: Or 75 MPH rich-c: depending on timing, Pam, maybe you could come with us Pamela: yeah, do 100 on the QEW and you get run over rich-c: I like to lag back at 110 - 115 when I can get away with it, which isn't always the case Dr.D.: I saw an interesting video on Google Video this week, a group of "protesters" in Atlanta formed a block of cars and drove the posted 55 MPH speed limit, so nobody behind could pass :-) Pamela: problem is Dad, we want to play tourist as well and will probably stay an extra couple of days - if we have a two day drive either way, that sorta puts paid to that idea Guy B.: There will be construction this summer and I'll find IDOT's website and add the link to my webpage for those who are driving in. Pamela: because I for one am not going to try to drive from Toronto to Chicago in one day Dr.D.: We are used to Orange Barrel Season in Ohio :-) Dr.D.: Would be doable if Russell drove and you could switch off... rich-c: I'm afraid making it in a day is a bit beyond us old folks, even with a relief driver Dr.D.: I am going to Norwich, VT for the 150th Anniversary Convention of Theta Chi, 8-11 June, me and 2 other alumni are driving there, 9.5 hours. Dr.D.: But after all the 5-hour drives to Toronto from Cleveland, a 3-hour shift and tradeoff will be nothing. Pamela: I looked at the calendar and figured if I took the 13th, 14th, 17th, 18th, and 19th off, that would net us enough time to fly in, fly out and spend a couple of days sightseeing in addition to the convention Dr.D.: Richard, you can afford to take as long as you wish to get there :-) rich-c: we can make it to Grand Rapids in a day, but Chicago is just that little extra bit beoyond rich-c: besides, it takes six hours to get from the state line to teh hotel - at least Dr.D.: Far be it for me to invite you to someone else's house, but maybe you could do a Toronto-Windsor leg and visit Cynthia; I doubt she'd complain. rich-c: no, but I woulsd have a fw thins to say about the bridge and Detroit traffic, and Frances might too Pamela: Interestingly, all of these scenarios have been brewing in my head for a while Guy B.: I found the website, so I'll add the link to the Adamcon 18 webpage. Pamela: I didn't think that the traffic around Detroit was all of that bad, Dad Dr.D.: Ambassador Bridge has not given me any probs in Windsor. Pamela: and the sum total of our border experience was about 30 seconds rich-c: let's just say there are days, then there are days, and the bad ones I've met.... rich-c: anyway, Sarnia/Port Huron is a far faster routing Dr.D.: And the bit of I-270 bypass around Toledo that is currently closed for renovation is on the Ohio side, you would miss it. Pamela: so, IYHO, is it faster to go through Michigan, or PA and Ohio? rich-c: and a huge lot easier on the nerves, too! Dr.D.: Hehe, can't have it both ways, Richard, either drive to make time, or drive for sightseeing :-) rich-c: I don't plan any rubbernecking on that route, Rich - been there, done that Dr.D.: I would do Ohio-Indiana-Illinois just because I know I can get there that way. BobS: go thru Mi for sure....straighter shot Pamela: LOL Dr.D.: Bob is the Michigan Man, so I defer to him. rich-c: we'll be going in through Port Huron to Flint and Lansing, turn down around Grand Rapids most likely BobS: major construction around Detroit yet in late Dec.....but clear from Pt Huron thru Gary In Dr.D.: However you go, just don't make that left turn at Albuquerque. BobS: RIGHT rich-c: I won't - my Spanish is non-existent Dr.D.: For Daniel, that is a joke from a Bugs Bunny cartoon... Dr.D.: And maybe for Richard too... Pamela: isn't the tag line "it's a killer" ? rich-c: Bugs Bunny I know about - that line, no Dr.D.: He uses it in about 5 different cartoons...tunnelling and then coming up in the wrong part of the world. Dr.D.: The reason, was making that wrong turn. rich-c: oh, eat your heart out, Rich and Pam - we got the complete works of Tom Lehrer today Pamela: it came already? That was fast Dr.D.: I like him in small doses only. Dr.D.: And he dropped out of sight 40 years ago, too rich-c: yes, they actually only promised to ship it today Dr.D.: He got too depressed by the world and stopped laughing at it Pamela: my faves - Pollution, New Math, and Vatican Rag rich-c: well, it includes everything he ever performed, some duplicatess, even some never before published Dr.D.: I don't know any of them by heart, never had the records, only heard other people play them. Dr.D.: I know much much more Spike Jones...or Monty Python for that matter Pamela: I know pretty much all of TW3 from hearing it in my childhood rich-c: oh, I thought your position was the intellectual snobbery of a biologist confronting a mathematician ;-) Pamela: what, no Monty Python? Dr.D.: There are numbers in biology, but life is more than numbers, I will say that. rich-c: yes, we have a good Spike Jones LP, and back in the 78 rpm days my family had a fw Dr.D.: I have a 78 of Der Fuehrer's Face Pamela: that was a category on Jeopardy the other day - one we both got all the clues for rich-c: yes, that was a classic - if I could sing, I'd be able to sing that for you Dr.D.: The 1960 LP collection "Thank You, Music Lovers" was played into the ground by me...still have it, scratches and all. Dr.D.: Hitler put the fatwa out on Spike for that one... rich-c: we need to find out how to patch our LP turntable/amplified into the computer so we can record LPs then burn them to CDs Dr.D.: Winamp or its ilk ought to let you do it. Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight Pamela: bonsoir, Daniel Dr.D.: I have an LP of my Mom's vocal group singing a Christmas Concert in 1960 that I want to do that to. rich-c: I still have to investigate the software on the laptop, I think it permits it - what typoe of file to I want to make? Dr.D.: She sang with a women's chorus in Cambridge OH called "The Musigals" for 2 years when Mom and Dad lived there. Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Pam Dr.D.: AIFF would be the biggest but best quality rich-c: Bonsoir, Daniel Dr.D.: Nite Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: Nite Dr.D Russ: nite Dan Dr.D.: Save MP3 for post-processing later, it is a lossy compression format Daniel Bienvenu: nite Russ Daniel Bienvenu: bye BobS BobS: nite Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bye Geoff! Dr.D.: They did a concert in 1960 that was recorded and records were pressed...I have 2 extant copies, hers and her mom's Daniel Bienvenu: bye GuyB
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-c: which program produces AIFF? Dr.D.: All of them...it is the actual file format used on CDs Dr.D.: Audio Interchange File Format I think it stands for Dr.D.: You could also do WAV rich-c: so would it allow direct burning to the CD then? or rather, direct into and out of memory? Dr.D.: Nobody can do that, have to record to HD and burn later Dr.D.: AFAIK Dr.D.: The burning is too slow I think to burn straight to the CD rich-c: but if I create a 30-minute AIFF file on my hard disc, then I can burn it directly to the CD, you're saying? Dr.D.: Yes. Dr.D.: There are programs that will let you make a multi-track CD from arbitrary audio files. Dr.D.: Mac iTunes for one Dr.D.: I am sure Winamp and its ilk will also rich-c: and then teh file won't be over 750 MB, if it is to fit on a CD? Dr.D.: Yes Dr.D.: 60 minutes of audio, thereabouts Dr.D.: No matter how you have it, to make an audio CD, it will get converted to AIFF. rich-c: I doubt any of our LPs run over 30 minutes - at lest per side Dr.D.: That is why I said, might as well get AIFF to start, have max quality. Dr.D.: A standard LP will easily fit both sides onto a single CD rich-c: cool! rich-c: now I just need teh patch cords to take the output from the turntable to the computer BobS: nto hard to find Richard rich-c: and of course a computer that is working, to receive them! BobS: duh yah Dr.D.: Still computer woes, Richard? rich-c: the laptop only has a single jack, though I suspect it does support stereo BobS: I think it is a love/hate relationship Dr D....between Richard/Gates Dr.D.: Use the Flintstones method: myna bird to mimic sound, engrave groove on stone record on turntable :-) Pamela: ya got that right, Bob rich-c: there is a Microsoft Escalation Engineer in (I suspect) China who by now is likely contemplating suicide rich-c: it is that much of a mess, and getting worse Dr.D.: If it's Win98 it is only you escalating, they are not supporting it anymore AFAIK rich-c: no,. I made teh mistake of following the directions for the WinXP upgrade disc. rich-c: today I called up Media Player to read the help file rich-c: I got blocked, it told me I needed to upgrade "now" so I clicked OK rich-c: it downloaded the files and installed them (it said) but then stopped on teh "opening cabinet files" bit rich-c: since it said installation 100% complete, I said wotthehell and clicked close rich-c: I not only didn't get MP10, mpw I've lost MP9 as well rich-c: I am not amused Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to call it the night, Will see you all next week. Dr.D.: hmmmm Pamela: gnite Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you Russ: nite Guy Pamela: thanks for nailing down the dates for us Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Me too and Annie does too. Dr.D.: Nite Guy rich-c: my tsr's are lost and won't load either, my Mozilla programs won't connect to the internet. just for samples BobS: nite guy. holler ASAP about dates K ?????? rich-c: about the only thing running right is FreeCell Guy B.: Poof Dr.D.: :-(
Guy B. left chat session rich-c: nite Bob, till next week Dr.D.: I think it's time for a Mac, Richard... BobS: well then you can play games.....er, A game Pamela: whatsa TSR? rich-c: well, I have an old Windows 3.1 game set, and everything in that works too BobS: the stinkin' routines rich-c: terminate and stay resident, like Zone Alarm, your anti-virus, that sort of thing Pamela: ah BobS: ahso....speaking of which,.......where is James of Japan origin?????? Pamela: dunno BobS: anybody heard of him????? rich-c: yeah, he hasn't been here the last few nights, nor has Ron Dr.D.: Eaten by Gojira :-) BobS: right Dr.D.: Or gamera BobS: Ron is long absent, no????? Pamela: yeah, it's been a few weeks Dr.D.: I hope he's okay Pamela: i"m sure he's fine, Rich rich-c: yes, he isn't as fussy about his health as he needs to be Pamela: just galivanting rich-c: you're likely right, Pam; we hope so BobS: ever since he retired, he acts like he doesn't have to check in ......like he is the energizer bunny rich-c: happens to all of us, Bob Pamela: well, someone send the man an e-mail and see what happens rich-c: when you have that much free time you use it, plus about 50% more rich-c: I sent him a couple of jokes this week Pamela: but jokes don't require a response Pamela: send him a question and see if he responds Dr.D.: Joke...here is one for you tech types BobS: ready Dr.D.: You should always carry with you a length of fiber-optic cable. rich-c: true, but they have been known to evoke one, or even just a counter, just so they've been riminded you're here Dr.D.: It will allow you to be rescued if you are ever stranded on a desert island. Dr.D.: If you get shipwrecked, take out your piece of fiber optic cable and bury it in the sand. Dr.D.: Within 30 minutes, someone driving a backhoe will appear to dig a trench that will cut the cable. Pamela: good one :) Dr.D.: When this happens, you can be rescued by the man on the backhoe. rich-c: that's so true it hurts! BobS: THAT is a GOOD one Dr D Pamela: unless of course, he happens to be shipwrecked too : ) Dr.D.: Douglas Adams had it wrong: you need to know where your fiber optic cable is, not your towel. BobS: naw, nobody gets shipwrecked with a backhow rich-c: don't be a wet blanket, daughter - that is a funny! Pamela: there are numerous responses to that comment, none of them printable : ) Pamela: cute, Rich Pamela: and on that note, it's time I went to bed Dr.D.: yeah me too, up at 5 am I must be Pamela: ick rich-c: yes, it's time for us old folks to pack it in, too Dr.D.: have to grade 29 exams Pamela: double ick Dr.D.: So...good night to all. rich-c: any idea when you'll be by, Pam? Dr.D.: Well, before Friday at 4 PM. Pamela: soon, Dad Pamela: gnite, Rich BobS: nite Dr d rich-c: OK, let us know when you do Pamela: at the very least, I'll see you Sunday for the party rich-c: goodnight to you, then rich-c: and Dr. D. Pamela: nite, Daddy BobS: and on that note, I also need to wander on and OFF to the sack. see ya's next week, same time and same place, YA ?????? Pamela: g'nite Russ, Bob, and Geoff
BobS left chat session Russ: nite Pam rich-c: and Russ, great you came by, come again real soon (next Wed. at 9E) Dr.D.: And I'll probably see you sometime *NEXT* weekend Pam, I am planning to be in Toronto 17-20th. Pamela: sounds good Rich rich-c: nite Geoff, hope you'll be more regular now Pamela: I'm outta here Pamela: Kerpoof! Dr.D.: Just hope Rin is well enough to travel Friday. Dr.D.: Bye all. Dr.D.: <poof> Russ: yeah, i should go too, thanks for letting me visit. i'll probably be back next week
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