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changed username to Dr. D. at last rich-c: hello Rich, on time, too! Dr. D. at last: Hi Richard Dr. D. at last: Sorry it has been so long...this is the worst time of the year. rich-c: Pamela will not be jining us till later - she was supposed to be home at 8 p.m. but is still talking to her mother on the front porch Dr. D. at last: Every time Wednesday has come around, I have needed to go to bed at 9 PM. Dr. D. at last: To be up at 2 or 3 AM or somesuch. Dr. D. at last: The last 3 weeks have been rough...but I will save the tale for when more folks are here.
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changed username to BobS rich-c: heloo Robert BobS: AHSO, you have retuened Dr. D. at last: Hi Bob BobS: sleep is good Richard rich-c: well it's wierd because I haven't done enough to need 10-1/2 hour sleeps rich-c: you want from wierd? try this BobS: ok Dr. D. at last: 10.5 hours is not weird...it would be great if it were restful BobS: heck I try to get 6 solid hours rich-c: last few mornings when I've got up, my blood pressure has been about 125/55 - with a pulse of 95! BobS: and get awakened to hit the little room BobS: pulse a littl ehigh there richard.......afib Dr. D. at last: BP is not bad, but the pulse is high. BobS: bp low # too low Dr. D. at last: I have been holding around 125-130/68-78 rich-c: by evening, the blood pressure hasn't changed much - but teh pulse is 70 or less Dr. D. at last: Depends what I eat...still trying to avoid meat, esp. beef. BobS: tha's good Dr. D. at last: No meds, all diet Dr. D. at last: No salt Dr. D. at last: No beef Dr. D. at last: No pop BobS: boy your diet sucks Dr D rich-c: constant headaches - halo too tight ;-) BobS: next thing you will be telling me is NO breathing Dr. D. at last: I have been away from fast food so long that an order of McDonald's French fries makes my fingers swell way up. Dr. D. at last: I view meds to regulate BP as an irrevocable step. BobS: well that is prolly true rich-c: your slat is supposed to be in balance, not non-existent! Dr. D. at last: Once I start, if ever, I will never be off them...side effects are bad. Dr. D. at last: US diet Richard is waaaaay to much sodium, not enough potassium. rich-c: no argument about the side effects - but the option aint fun either Dr. D. at last: Pretty solid study that reversing ratio of sodium to potassium will bring systolic BP down about 10 mm mercury Dr. D. at last: So, no salt, no salty meats...and taking OTC potassium supplement about 5 times a day, total about 1000 mg. Dr. D. at last: I can't argue with it...I have been logging all the BPs since July, and I can correlate it with my food log (which I have kept since May 2002). Dr. D. at last: If Rin comes to visit and she wants to eat out, and I break down and have some beef, next couple days BP is up. Dr. D. at last: So I have told her, no more :-S Dr. D. at last: She isn't happy, she likes her burgers :-S BobS: VEGGIE burgers!!!!! Dr. D. at last: I miss all the stuff I used to eat, believe me I do. Dr. D. at last: A giant portabello mushroom in lieu of beef is not bad, though it's expensive. Dr. D. at last: Chicken and fish don't seem to bother me, not even canned tuna or salmon. rich-c: I have outlived the majority of my birth cohort, withpout dietary extremes on the good side... Dr. D. at last: I just eat veggie stir-fry most nights. BobS: fish is good on the grill...........been using telapia (?) prettyr tasty stuff Dr. D. at last: My Dad has had high BP since he was 30...and at 66 he is running out of drugs that work.
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changed username to Judy Dr. D. at last: Hence I don't ever want to start on them :-S rich-c: ever tried eating tune with a bit of a curry sauce? we are quite fond of it Dr. D. at last: Hi Judy rich-c: hello Judy Judy: Hi, Dr D Dr. D. at last: I am not much of a curry guy, the very rare Indian restaurant trip notwithstanding. BobS: was curry taste like?????? Judy: Hi, Rich BobS: I know....curry Dr. D. at last: haha Dr. D. at last: It's a mix of stuff, not monolithic spice. BobS: but that is not the correct answer Dr. D. at last: Saffron makes it yellow, cumin makes it spicy, dunno what else. Dr. D. at last: It is basically edible Egyptian embalming paste :-) BobS: YUCK Dr. D. at last: That BobS: pickle me insides??????? rich-c: right - which there is a general consensus, apparently every Indian woman has her own private and personal receipe, and holds commercials mixes in utter contempt Dr. D. at last: 's what they did up their mummies in Dr. D. at last: Along with palm wine and salt to dry it out rich-c: and what did they use to embalm their cats? Dr. D. at last: The same. Dr. D. at last: Go to the ROM and read about it; Rin and I did :-) Dr. D. at last: My membership at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History got us in there free, both of us. Dr. D. at last: There is a reciprocal agreement for full members. rich-c: anyway Bob, curry is a mix of spices and can be red, green, yellow, hot, mild, whatever the compounder likes Dr. D. at last: So it saved us $30 CN Dr. D. at last: The ROM has a collection of cat and other mummies. Dr. D. at last: Royal Ontario Museum I should say for Bob and Judy. rich-c: I hate to think how many decades it's been since I've been in the ROM - and the last time was for a political meeting Dr. D. at last: The dinosaur skeleton hall was closed while we were there though :-( Dr. D. at last: They are building a Crystal Palace or somesuch through it. rich-c: and don't get me started on the new Libeskind addition - YUCK! Dr. D. at last: Yeah, it is pretty icky. Dr. D. at last: The same "arteeest" stuff that parks a glass pyramid in front of the Louvre. rich-c: I think it's simply the ruination of a fine, modest, classic building - but then their curator has always put me off rich-c: comparatively speaking, the Louvre got off easy... Dr. D. at last: I.M Pei, P.U. Dr. D. at last: He did the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame glass pyramid here in Cleveland, ugh. BobS: Ah tis like our very own Grand Rapids CALDER sculpture BobS: darned if anyone knows WHAT it is rich-c: we are still having difficulties getting beyond Frank Lloyd Wright Dr. D. at last: Well at least inside the ROM, it still looks like a 19th-century building. Dr. D. at last: FLW built chairs you couldn't sit on and roofs that leaked :-) rich-c: though some of Muriyama's local works I find most attractive, and then there's our City Hall Dr. D. at last: And the ROM had one of his chairs on display. Judy: and the paint to paint it costs way to much Dr. D. at last: We have a giant rubber stamp downtown in front of one of the courthouse buildings...it says FREE on the stamp part. Dr. D. at last: It's about 40 feet tall. rich-c: we will have the opportunity to peer at a fair bit of Wright's arcxhitecture in Chicago should we choose rich-c: actually, that sounds kinda neat Dr. D. at last: The house Falling Water is literally falling into the creek now. Judy: and they call it art Dr. D. at last: Re: stamp, the artist did a whole series of huge office supplies. Dr. D. at last: They are scattered around the country. rich-c: there are structural issues with Falling Water? Dr. D. at last: There is one of them, though, that I bet nobody under 30 has the faintest idea what it is now. rich-c: what's that? Dr. D. at last: Re: FW, yes, the creek has eroded the foundation and the rebar is rusting inside the concrete. Dr. D. at last: Remember the round erasers with a brush on the end for use with typewriters? Dr. D. at last: The guy made a sculpture of that. Dr. D. at last: Kinda like a pizza cutter with a brush. BobS: COOL, I have some of those and they work great for pencil work also rich-c: yes, though I don't have any of that kind for my typewriter any more Dr. D. at last: Since manual typewriters are extinct, so are those erasers...and eraser pencils... Dr. D. at last: and erasable bond typing paper, my favorite, it was easy to draw on in pencil and erase after you had india-inked a drawing on it. BobS: paper is so cheap, just print it out again onthe puter andrecycle the pap;er rich-c: well, I have and use (rarely, admittedly) a manual typewriter, and certainly use pencils and erasers Dr. D. at last: Non-photo-blue pencils are gone too, the ones that wouldn't show up on an (analog) Xerox machine. Dr. D. at last: They are all digital scanners now, and the blue pencil shows up. BobS: same here Richard......confession....TWO manual typewriters.......... BobS: what the heck....got lots of old computers too rich-c: funny you should say... Dr. D. at last: I found that out when wanting to make some reproductions of comics I drew in college...they were blue pencil with ink on top, for the school newspaper. rich-c: w3e just gave away an old electronic typewriter Dr. D. at last: I can't find a machine to Xerox them on that doesn't show the under drawing :-( rich-c: well, that's what Photoshop is for Dr. D. at last: Haven't found a remove-the-non-photo-blue filter for it yet. Dr. D. at last: Old-fashioned high-contrast film (and F5 high-contrast Kodabromide paper) wouldn't show it. Dr. D. at last: I am so old...I know how to do B&W darkroom stuff with materials that probably aren't made now. rich-c: yes, I can remember developing my own b/w films, though I did not print them - too much time Judy: getting old isn't all bad, DR D rich-c: yes, it does beat the alternative BobS: NO, you get to walk slower Dr. D. at last: As long as it's kept dark, the photo paper doesn't go bad...in the late 1980s we had some Kodabromide paper in the lab that was from 1970, giant box of it in 11x17, which was why we used it up so slow...usually 8x10 or 8.5x11 for reviewer copies of plates for journal papers. rich-c: but I guarantee it is not for sissies BobS: and you get to hurt all over a lot Dr. D. at last: I lived in the darkroom as a grad student...I was doing electron microscopy, had to develop 4x5 sheet film negatives 50 at a time, then print them. rich-c: yes, if it don't hurt, it don't work - that strts at a quite young age Dr. D. at last: I am not worried about getting old...my gripe is I know perfectly good ways to do stuff that the infrastructure has disappeared for, that I don't know what the *current* way to do it is. BobS: NOW yo are talking MY langugae Doc rich-c: wait till you get to my age - you're still a kid Dr. D. at last: It's like when Woolworth's went out of business...no store since then has emerged to carry the stuff that Woolworth's did. Dr. D. at last: So I don't know where to go to get it. rich-c: well, five and dime pricing is a bit of a dead issue these days too Dr. D. at last: At some point I am running out of new brain to absorb new things that are new just for the sake of being new. rich-c: that's what the internet is for, Rich - you can find ANYHTING on the internet rich-c: I have an easy solution - ignore them and soon they go away Dr. D. at last: I can find anything but what I want :-) Dr. D. at last: haha rich-c: by the time they look worth buying, they're gone and replaced by something new rich-c: you're just looking in the wrong places, Rich Dr. D. at last: I have always said I would do better in the 19th century. BobS: well, things went much slower then rich-c: don't think you'd prosper with teh lab methods they used then - they weren't conducive to longevity Dr. D. at last: I recently had to revise my resume (annual thing for the Department) and I admit I was agog at how many different things I have done...most resumes I have read are very narrow. BobS: since about 1985, the eloctronic world has developed at breakneck speed Dr. D. at last: Hehe, I should post the link to it, it's just a PDF file, albeit 15 pages long :-) BobS: and left most of the civilized world shaking their heads rich-c: I know - my neck is beginning to seriously hurt rich-c: at the moment my battle with XP continues apace rich-c: migod, the amount of reading I need to do just to find out what's going on, let alone options on fixing it Dr. D. at last: Just in time for Vista...you still have 6 months Dr. D. at last: Xtreme Prejudice rich-c: I think I can confidently state I will not end up using Vista Dr. D. at last: Microsoft themselves are recommending that crashed or virus attacked machines just be wiped and reinstalled rather than attempting repair or antivirus. Dr. D. at last: Fine if Dell et al. actually sold XP install disks instead of IMAGES. Dr. D. at last: buggers rich-c: yes, and there goes all your dta - letters, pictures, spreadsheets, the whole schmeer Dr. D. at last: Yes. Dr. D. at last: I guess burn to CD-R early and often...or DVD-R. rich-c: I have the XP Upgrade install disc - that's the one giving me the most trouble Dr. D. at last: Upgrading from what, 98 or Me or 2K? rich-c: I think I am going to have to get an external DVD burner for the laptop - it only burns CDs rich-c: 98SE rich-c: maybe a poweered USB 2.0 hub might be a worthwhile acquisition - I don't think the laptop rserves are that good Dr. D. at last: Get an x86 Mac and dual-boot XP and MacOS X :-)
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!!! rich-c: you need teh very latest Phoenix OS on the Intel Macs to do that, right? rich-c: hello Guy Dr. D. at last: No, it is still 10.4 Dr. D. at last: hi Guy rich-c: Pamela was supposed to be home at 8 p.m. - instead she is still on our front porch gossiping with her mother Judy: hi, Guy BobS: Hi Guy Guy B.: One pup has fallen asleep. BobS: tell Pam to get inside and get on chat rich-c: One? you have more than one? rich-c: I can t3ell her but she won't listen Dr. D. at last: There are multiple flavours of OS X in circulation.
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: finaly, I'm here! Guy B.: Hi Daniel Dr. D. at last: 10.3.x, 10.4.x are the most common nowadays, but earlier ones are around. Judy: hi, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: good evening! rich-c: salut, Daniel - tu es en retard Dr. D. at last: Hello Daniel. Guy B.: Ok, I've contacted the person at the hotel and I'm going to setup an appt. with her. I have some questions to ask her and hopefully I can get a tour of the place. BobS: hey Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: sorry to be late. I had a discussion with some guys. Daniel Bienvenu: it's was more a bad discussion Dr. D. at last: :-( rich-c: a bad discussion? what went wrong, Daniel? rich-c: do you know yet, Guy, if theyv will offer a price we can live with? Daniel Bienvenu: they didn't appreciate a program I did, a code that read files from the net and extract informations without any effort. rich-c: ah - afraid you might use it to swipe their code? Daniel Bienvenu: no relation with code from the net, it's a game made in flash, that is a time consuming. Guy B.: That's what I'm going to ask Rich. I'm hoping it can be in the range of last years. Daniel Bienvenu: I just did a shortcut to quickly see if the game changed to give me the difference rich-c: Guy, you mean you have gone ahead and done all your planning for a place that may be way out of our price range? rich-c: do you remember teh rfeaction to the prices last year? it cost us at least two, likely half a dozen people Guy B.: Rich, I won't know until I talk with her. rich-c: and if the numbers aern't there - what is your plan B? time is a'flittin Daniel Bienvenu: I shared my discovery with the other players, and some didn't appreciate. Dr. D. at last: Rin and I are coming regardless... Guy B.: That's why I need to talk with her and so far, I have 16 people coming. George was the latest that he is planning to come. But, I'll need less rooms than I originally thought. Dr. D. at last: Why were they so angry about it, Daniel? It is just a form of diff, right? Daniel Bienvenu: exactly Dr. D. at last: Then they are just being very petty and stupid. Guy B.: Nothing is final yet until I ask questions and what is covered. So, relax and if I need help I'll holler for someone to give me a hand. Remember, this is my first time doing something like this. Daniel Bienvenu: the program act in two parts, first pass load the files (like a browser cache), second pass search for the diff. rich-c: well, bI do believe that Bob has offered his help a number of times Guy B.: And he is the one I'm going to confer with. Daniel Bienvenu: I personnaly think it's the moon Dr. D. at last: haha Dr. D. at last: Maybe they should go visit a crater or something. Dr. D. at last: My brain is full of craters right now :-( BobS: testing Dr. D. at last: I am here. BobS: you been here moon BobS: mon Dr. D. at last: Just got a phone call from Rin...so I think I am going to sign off for tonight. Daniel Bienvenu: it's full moon effect Guy B.: Bye Dr. D Judy: night Dr D Dr. D. at last: I can't talk one conversation and type another simultaneously Dr. D. at last: haha Daniel rich-c: OK, better tell her Pamela will be a while yet ;-) Dr. D. at last: Until next week, happy Easter to all. rich-c: night to both of you Dr. D. at last: nite from Rin Dr. D. at last: <poof>
Dr. D. at last left chat session rich-c: and happy Easter to you Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Dr.D Daniel Bienvenu: (too late) Daniel Bienvenu: how good is going the planning for the adamcon meeting? rich-c: anyway, Guy, we already have people with use 'em or lose 'em holidays committed to your date, and money committed to non-refundable air tickets rich-c: we need some very firm reliable answers - by yesterday Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not going this year, but I want some news rich-c: well so far Daniel we aern't sure wshre it is going to be Guy B.: Rich, the dates are definate. No matter what rich-c: yes, as long as we can find a place we can afford, within range of the airport rich-c: don't mistake me, I can live with the Holiday inn you are eyeing rich-c: but I am not the only one needing consideration
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changed username to james Daniel Bienvenu: hi james james: good morning rich-c: good morning, james - it's been a while BobS: hia james BobS: guten morgan!!!!!! Judy: hi, James Guy B.: Hi James Daniel Bienvenu: how are you? james: how is everyone? Daniel Bienvenu: and aiden? Daniel Bienvenu: and case? james: doing well BobS: brething and warmer...tis spring!!!!! rich-c: still on the right side of teh grass - I think BobS: breathing Guy B.: Organizing Adamcon 18. james: lol james: been insanely busy here, but things should finally calm down a bit next week rich-c: oh, is the teaching business suddenly hot in Nippon? BobS: busy doing what? james: well i was really busy last month getting organized for the trip with my students james: and we just got back last friday night BobS: ah....when will that be ? rich-c: ah, right - when is that, I've lost track james: it was a couple of weeks ago Daniel Bienvenu: how old is aiden? she's walking now? BobS: about July? BobS: AH james: aiden will be 2 next month james: he's walking and talking lots
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changed username to Ronald Daniel Bienvenu: shit rich-c: so soon? it just deosn't seem that long since Case was a newbirn Ronald: I beg your pardon? Daniel Bienvenu: I knew I did a mistake Ronald: evening all Judy: hi, Ron james: well case turned 4 just before my students and i left for canada and started kindergarden yesterady james: *day rich-c: hello Ron, how's life on the wet coast? Daniel Bienvenu: hi Ron james: hey ron! BobS: YO ron Ronald: turned 62 on Monday, so life goes on despite my best attempts to prevent it rich-c: ye gods - case in kindergarten. How time flies james: yeah, it's gone by quite quickly to say the least Ronald: Rosie the Bull is still in the garage Judy: well, Happy Birthday, Ron Guy B.: Hi Ron rich-c: well, mayhap the results will be to your satisfaction james: happy birthday ron Ronald: thank you Judy, James Ronald: could be BobS: Happy b'day to you.........Happy b'day to you....... james: $RON=2*$JAMES
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changed username to Russ Ronald: actually, 62 don't feel much different from 61 rich-c: you know I'm all for repairing rather than feplacing - in fact I still have this old computer I use... ;-) Russ: Hello all Ronald: Hey Russ BobS: Hi Russ rich-c: greetings to you, Russ Ronald: nice formula James.. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne fête Ron Judy: hi, Russ Ronald: merci Monsieur james: heh heh, fortunately it only holds valid for this set of numbers james: otherwise in 10 years you'd be 80 :P Ronald: :) james: 84 actually, but i'm not gonna split hairs rich-c: anyway, Ron, I don't think you'll feel that much change till you hit about 70 Ronald: that is a pleasure that I will look forward to with apprehension Rich rich-c: anyway, Russ, don't just sit there, join in - you're welcome Daniel Bienvenu: I will be 31 years old this summer BobS: YIKES....a babe in the woods of Quebec Guy B.: Hi Russ rich-c: that's about the same as Guy Foster, isn't it? Ronald: tempus fugit Daniel Russ: acutally i was putting some ice on my finger Russ: i've decided i hate soldering Russ: :) BobS: oh oh an OWEEEEEE rich-c: why? did you manage to cut it or hurt it otherwiseA? Judy: what did you do to your finger?> BobS: can be a hot subject Daniel Bienvenu: (PRIVATE) .a babe in the woods of Quebec ? what is the meaning of that? Russ: i slipped and burned it Ronald: you're supposed to solder the joint Russ, not your finger Russ: those chips are hard to get off the board rich-c: yes, hot solder and cold fingers can get uncomfortable BobS: (PRIVATE) that means a young guy Ronald: there were no doubt some zesty words uttered to the air rich-c: what wre you trying to desolder, Russ? BobS: and bery nasty words also BobS: very Ronald: yup, can almost hear 'em now Russ: Coleco IC chip BobS: (PRIVATE) kind of an old english idiom ........ or saying Judy: think how good it will feel when it stops hurting Ronald: oh my..... willingness to undergo personal injury to support the cause..... that's very NOBLE james: what's your project, russ? Ronald: brb BobS: need the desoldering mesh cable....thiink it is like copper????? Russ: mostly i play with controllers Russ: nes for colecovision Russ: atari 5200 paddle james: cool BobS: no james......HOT rich-c: that's down in Waycross, right? Russ: but i thought i'd se about reprogramming the BIOS for the 12 second skip Russ: gotta get the chip out BobS: yank it out by its dark roots Russ: maybe i should just stick to controllers....got some Jaguar ones that'll work sweet for Coleco rich-c: they tend to get a little too used up that way, Bob Russ: this coleco is broken so it's a test machine Russ: should see if i can install a/v jacks rich-c: in fact if I've heard correctly, unsoldering most chips and having them re-usable is something of a challenge Russ: lotsa burns coming my way Russ: i can see why that would be true rich Ronald: mmm... banana cream pie Ronald: was invited out for dinner the other night... and my hosts sent me home with a care package rich-c: I gather most were surface mounted, poked through the holes in the boardds, and the wirs cut short at the board level basically BobS: you are SICK my man........sit and eat it all yourself BobS: PASS IT AROUND rich-c: oh, I am into my evening bottle of stout james: maybe you could solder in a socket? Russ: it's getting that solder out of the holes BobS: but ya still got to geto out the old chip
Ronald created action P/pie rich-c: yes, but teh chip still has to have some length of attachment wire left, james BobS: got to have a little blow syringe....like a baster it is
(Mitch faxes banana cream pie to all) BobS: blows the solder out of the hole Russ: i recently picked up a bulb but i'm not good at it yet i think Russ: too busy burning myself rich-c: is it really better than desoldering wire, Bob? faster maybe, but better? Ronald: I am a total clutz with a soldering iron BobS: just make sure you blow it into the wastebasket, NOT into your hand or your pants Russ: i usually use the braid but it only gets the surface rich-c: hey Ron, disclose to him the secret of - ta da!!! - PUSHPINS!!! BobS: the solder mesh sire will pull it out of the way, and the blow bulb can clean the rest out very nicely Ronald: yes.... the almighty pushpin Ronald: there was a time...... Ronald: when this dude had to attach the connectors of an Adam memory card to a serial card Ronald: twas done with alligator clips and pushpins BobS: yes....pushpins and alligator clips......MODERN computer technologies Ronald: Needless to say, I've never lived that down BobS: and you WON'T Ronald: no, I don't imagine BobS: but what the hey....it worked, right ????? Ronald: yup, that it did my son rich-c: of course not - with any sense of design, the pushpins should have been sufficient unto themselves 8-) Ronald: too easy Rich Ronald: and guess who were first to see this rig rich-c: right - forget you worked for the gummint... Ronald: the Slopsemas Ronald: Doug didn't stop laughing for quite some time rich-c: (that was your first mistake...0 BobS: he's just a kid!!!!! BobS: he got over the shock......after a little while Ronald: yes, but he knows what he's doing rich-c: well yes, but he's a BRIGHT kid BobS: yes he does, my right hand man for computers, he is Ronald: yup.... he's a good young man Ronald: just like his Dad rich-c: and left hand, and brain, and... BobS: :-) Daniel Bienvenu: @james : before I forgot, i didn't pay yet for the domain name. I have difficulties to do a good budget for myself and I still didn't sign for the extension of my actual contract. Ronald: and probably his Mom had something to do with that too BobS: probably........ Ronald: anyway..... been looking at Toyotas Ronald: and Honda Ronald: s BobS: wish he could make it this year, but he and Meeka are into one of those multi level marketing deals and working at it......they have a meeting th weekend of convention james: well the domain expried a few months ago BobS: in Niagra Falls james: i don't know if anyone has taken it over or not BobS: so won't come this year either Ronald: you know... I've had two friends lately trying to get me into something like that rich-c: that's a shame, Bob - though maybe the whole thing will have collapsed by then - MLM deals aren't mervels of stability Ronald: I have not jumped Daniel Bienvenu: it looks like no one taken the domain name yet. james: so you can take care of the registration yourself james: hhhhhh james: aiden is helping me type Daniel Bienvenu: hi aiden james: i had a guy here that i *used* to deal with for trees rich-c: Ron, take a look at the new Ford Fusion - it's getting some very good reviews BobS: don't !!!!!! almost all are not money makers for you unless you are a GREAT salesman Daniel Bienvenu: sorry aiden, I was sure you was a girl. james: was trying to get me into mlm but i7m not interstd Ronald: ok Rich. Noted Ronald: Gotta see what the market has to offer Ronald: would sure like something that delivers 40 miles per gallon Ronald: or better BobS: need some pocket change?????? or just bored ???? Daniel Bienvenu: next week, I will have enough money to try registering the domain name BobS: Saturn was advertising 35 hwy james: i got tired of his lip service and unfulfilled promises and then he approaches me with that Daniel Bienvenu: now, I have enough money to eat rich-c: have heard little about it (but that very favourable) and only seen one, but the Ford Five Hundred could be a winner too rich-c: but then everyone knows I have teh blue oval tattooed on my butt... Ronald: that's a good thing Daniel james: yeah, eating is a good thing Ronald: Not sure if I want new, or a couple of years old Ronald: Have had better luck with my used cars than my new ones BobS: how about a mini cooper?????? Ronald: hey now there's a thought BobS: don't know about mileage, but darn small rich-c: realize Bob that with pour bigger gallons, 35 US is well over 40 here - except we use litre per 100 KM Russ: Toyota is a good choice for used Ronald: criterion 1: If I brush my head getting into whatever it is, It ceases to be a candidate BobS: got ya Ron rich-c: if you're intpo the older used, Toyota can produce some good candidates Russ: i agree Ron...it's the reson i bought my subaru Ronald: still haven't wrapped my head around "litres per 100" yet rich-c: they're dull as dishwater, no fun to drive, but they endure Ronald: think that's the last bastion of metric for me, along with kilopascals rich-c: yes, I just sort of automatically convert it Ronald: well... we'lll see. Rosie the Bull (aka 1993 Taurus) will employ her new head gasket to get me around to the car lots rich-c: you realize that I don't consider a vehicle broken in till it's passed 150,000 miles Guy B.: I will be back.
Guy B. left chat session Ronald: so what's 186,000 km?? Ronald: 110,000 mi Ronald: and change BobS: good lord Richard, by then they are worn thru one time and need rebuilding rich-c: likely around v115K in miles - 100K miles is 160K km Ronald: right. Ronald: If I get the idea that Rosie is game for another year, we'll see. But no more major stuff rich-c: so? a rebuilt engine is cheap, so is a rebuilt tranny - by comparison, anyway rich-c: you do realize the the engine in my truck is virtually brand new, don't you? Ronald: and that ... is really about all that could go wrong go wrong..... go wrong Ronald: the trannie I mean Ronald: think I knew you'd had it replaced Rich rich-c: well, I have a truck tranny and rear wheel drive so it's likely to endure Ronald: would be the devil I know versus the devil I don't rich-c: front wheel drive trannys can be expensice and awkward to repair, I know Ronald: yeah.... trans-axle and stuff rich-c: yes, I junked teh V-6 and put in the V-8 rich-c: but we have driven so little sdince that it's barely merited an oil change rich-c: in fact my oil changes are done by time, not distance these days Ronald: didn't you have that done when you were thinking about coming out here for my con? rich-c: yes, and you'll recall I ws grounded by illness - didn't get anywhere, and have been limited since Ronald: that right rich-c: once I got over the hip I had to deal with the heart and now lungs Ronald: never rains but it pours rich-c: that's why I'm not certain for Adamcon, I think I can make it, but... Ronald: We know you'll give it an honest attempt Rich rich-c: anyway, I bolught my gas for teh month Monday so I'm set now Ronald: what are you paying per litre in Toronto? rich-c: more along teh lines of as long as I don't arrive feet first, I'll be there rich-c: if I can't drive I'll take a plane, amybe even train Ronald: ;) rich-c: besides, Frances wants to visit teh ARt Institute again james: bbs Ronald: I would like to take two or three extra days and do some sightseeing myself Daniel Bienvenu: ho! Dale message Daniel Bienvenu: I've just received an email from Dale BobS: and it says what ? rich-c: yes, we barely got in the door of the Field Museum, and I believe there's a fairly highly reputed aquarium on Navy Pier Ronald: et qu'est'qu'il a dit? Daniel Bienvenu: He will be at the adamcon meeting this summer with Jill and Jeffrey rich-c: good shpow! Ronald: bon Daniel Bienvenu: "Definately coming" he said BobS: Shedds Aqauarium Ronald: that good to see Bob? rich-c: problem is, getting to them - I do not want to drive through Chicago again Ronald: no.... probably not advisable eh? Ronald: there must be a tour of some sort rich-c: on the other hand, I've seen the commuter trains in rush hour and - uhhhhh,,,,,, BobS: don't kniw haven't been there.......but it is one of Chivago's tourist draws Ronald: I need to do a little research rich-c: if nothing else go to the Art Institute and see the miniature room collection - fabu;ous Ronald: Things to do and see in the "toddlin' town" rich-c: sorry, don't think there's a race at the Cicero track that weekend 8-( Ronald: wonder if the Cubs or the White Sox would be playing rich-c: thionk Pamela and her mother just came in - maybe finished their gossip Ronald: would be need to go and sit in the ball park Ronald: neet I mean Judy: I am going to call it a night, have to change the bandage on my toe before bed, bye all!!! Ronald: Nite Judy. Be well Russ: nite judy Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Judy
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changed username to Guy B. Daniel Bienvenu: hello Guy! Ronald: Hey Guy..... got a question rich-c: welcome back, Guy Daniel Bienvenu: did you see that? Dale said by email "Definately coming" Guy B.: Well folks, I had problems with system and it's getting late. So, I'll see you all next week. Ronald: is it possible to get tickets to a ballgame in Chicago - (either Sox or Cubs)?? Daniel Bienvenu: to answer your question rich-c: \OK, and keep us posted on progress with the hotel, OK? Ronald: or do you have to bequeath them to your next of kin? Guy B.: Cubs are playing during weekend of the con. Ronald: aha.... Wrigley Field BobS: cubs may be hard to get....Sox possibly rich-c: I suspect both teams are walkup-friendly on weekdays, Ron - MLB isn't that prosperous these days Guy B.: That's right Ron. And I'm a Cubs fan. I was considering that, but I know that would be hard to come by. Ronald: yeah..... well, we'll check into it from here Ronald: I've got a year's subscription to MLB.Com Guy B.: Ok, folks will see you all later. Poof Ronald: so can check it thru them
Guy B. left chat session Ronald: night Guy Russ: think i'm gonna go too BobS: gone....in 60 miliseconds BobS: nit eruss rich-c: Pamela is going home now, but says hi and will see you next week Russ: put some more ice on my finger BobS: nite Russ Russ: nite all
Russ left chat session rich-c: smart idea - I'm trying to remeber the salve that works well for that Ronald: I probably won't be here next week people...... so it'll be a couple of weeks Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit tout le monde! Daniel Bienvenu: good night! Daniel Bienvenu: I'm leaving too Ronald: nite Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I'm sleepy rich-c: et toi aussi, Daniel? bonsopir, then Daniel Bienvenu: Joyeuses Paques Ronald: I'm going to thrash about with my latest linux install... so we'll see y'all BobS: nite Ronald: may the Bunny be with you Daniel Bienvenu: Mangez du bon chocolat! rich-c: man, they're dropping like flies - in a week or two then, Ron Daniel Bienvenu: du vrai Ronald: certainment BobS: well.......guess it will be time to go to bed also...... Ronald: nite all rich-c: yes, this old guy is hitting his limits too
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changed username to Dale Dale: Echo. Dale: Must be too late for the chat. Dale: Everyone left an hour ago. james: anyone here? Dale: Nope.
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