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changed username to Roberto Roberto: HEY RICHARD Roberto: WAKY WAKY !!!!!! rich-c: hi Robrt. how goes it? Roberto: not so bad mon Roberto: wether sucks, but.....tis only April after all Roberto: enjoyed the few NICe days we had and want MORE Roberto: from????? jsut plain sore throat? Roberto: or something else rich-c: we had a glorious day today and same foecast for tomorrow rich-c: don't know - both Frances and I have it, will likely change to cold soon Roberto: it was nice andsunny here, but could be alittle warmer...think we hit mid 60* F rich-c: hey, don't throw that back! Roberto: AH HA, Francis got you sick, eh? Roberto: that iswhy I said, tis on ly April aftera ll rich-c: we aren't sure if it's a share proposition or if we both got it from a third party Roberto: MAY will be even nicer Roberto: undoubtedly it came from without rich-c: tomorrow we hope to got get the hitch assembly out of the trailer
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: there;'s a guy feels he can set it up to make it work and still have me able to lift it
changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: finally... I tried 3 times before it works for me tonight rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - comment ca va? Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Rich Roberto: hmmmmm, that is a rather heavy thing isn't it........ Daniel Bienvenu: super Daniel Bienvenu: ca va bien Roberto: HELLO Daniel !!!!!! rich-c: really? I got on with no problem at all Daniel Bienvenu: HELLO Roberto !!!!!!!!
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changed username to La Rousse rich-c: the problem is, Robert, after you pass 70 you rapidly lose muscle mass Daniel Bienvenu: La Rousse? est douce? rich-c: just like you get shorter but your weight doesn't change - just moves to your middle rich-c: I suspect that's Erin La Rousse: indeed it is :-) Roberto: yes Richard, methinks you are correct !!! Roberto: HEY Erin!!!! La Rousse: Howdy! Roberto: don't know what I am using here....DSL was down al day I hear rich-c: oh, it's a well known and documented medical condition, Robert Roberto: and I thought I was just gaining weight :-( Roberto: bummer dude rich-c: that must have been local, Bob - I had no problem when I was on nor did Frances Roberto: DON'T laugh Rin.....Dr D is soon to have that problem too La Rousse: weight gain? rich-c: well, you haven't started to lose height or muscle yet, Bor Roberto: nope weight redistribution to the center of the universe.......er, body La Rousse: he already complains about it :-) rich-c: at your age it shouldn't be happening, again that's a late 60s or later phenomenon Roberto: oh OK rich-c: well with Rich''s fullback build, it's a hard call to make Roberto: had me worried ther for a minute La Rousse: his is likely just the weight gain as one starts down the path of "maturity" Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtFLkA9zZtU Daniel Bienvenu: it's a video, a demonstration of things that can be done with a special touchscreen rich-c: right, I have it copied Roberto: am busy making cd roms of a pd game for the grandkids after tonsil surgery.........strangely; the 8x write speed is about 1/2 the speed of the 4x write......WIERD Daniel Bienvenu: Roberto, did you install a video game reccently? Roberto: nope rich-c: yes, that is kinda not what you'd expect - except of course that you are dealing with a computer Roberto: the computer I am using to make cd roms is strictly a work machine for stuff like that. NO games La Rousse: so an unprecedented workout Daniel Bienvenu: if I asked it's because some gamers had weird problems with their cd/dvd burner... going slowly for no reason rich-c: still, a burner doesn't know what you're burning - bits is bits, after all
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: welcome Guy, how goes it? Daniel Bienvenu: The following link is a blog that show you some informations about this strange situation. La Rousse: hi Guy Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.glop.org/starforce/ Roberto: so then if it is bits for bits; WHY is 8x slower tahn 4x ?????? Guy B.: Greetings, I'll be right back with an annoucement Roberto: Hi Guy!!! Roberto: yea man I got an announcement also....got a real good line on a job.......course that means I have to work Roberto: maybe no vacations Roberto: bummer dudes, and dudettes rich-c: tell us about it, Bob Roberto: bulding manager for local TV station Roberto: could work out real good La Rousse: you need a travelling job Bobs....6 months in Rio might do it :-) Roberto: ya but how to get ???????
moved to room Meeting Place La Rousse: the eternal question rich-c: hey, that sounds neat - sure you can't get sick for three days if you need to?
changed username to Pamela rich-c: and that's assuming you don't get Saturday and Sunday off Daniel Bienvenu: based on the forums and this blog, windows take errors as a compatibility problem and try to decrease the performance to finally got a burner that will be impossible to use again. Pamela: who's getting conveniently sick? Roberto: greetings Pamela rich-c: hi daughter that tpok you a while Daniel Bienvenu: hi Pam! Roberto: didn't see yo wsneak in Pamela: Hi Dad, Bob, Erin, Daniel, Guy Roberto: YO La Rousse: hi Pam Pamela: Rin, while I think of it, I remembered to order your anklet Pamela: 'twill be here next Thursday rich-c: anyway Bob you can drive around the corner to Chicago and back in a very short time Guy B.: Ok, I''ve decided that I going to take some offers of help. La Rousse: oh, thanks...I almost forgot about it La Rousse: excellet Guy B.: Dale has offered to get T-shirts and the banner and I took him up on it. rich-c: well that's how we work, Guy, so just name what you need Pamela: your total will be $12.29 rich-c: good choice - Dale's family is in the banner business and produce good stuff at fair prices La Rousse: cool, thanks Daniel Bienvenu: again, visit the blog. maybe you can find a clue about what is going on with your cd/dvd burner. Guy B.: If someone had told me this before then, I would welcome any help. Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.glop.org/starforce/ Guy B.: Now I've got a good theme for this year. Pamela: oh?? rich-c: geez, everyone assumed you knew, Guy - no one has ever done an Adamcon single handed Guy B.: I know, I guess I should have realized that I couldn't do this all and keep my sanity. But, I do want to do a couple of things with this con. Roberto: gonna blow now kids....be back later !!!!
Roberto left chat session Pamela: you wanted to stay sane?? Cmon, no one else does : ) Daniel Bienvenu: Roberto?
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changed username to Dr. D. Daniel Bienvenu: hello Dr.D La Rousse: Hi Honey Pamela: Hi, Rich rich-c: hi Rich Daniel Bienvenu: you just miss Roberto. rich-c: see you made it home in good time Dr. D.: Hi folks. Dr. D.: Sorry I am late. Daniel Bienvenu: he was there, but then poof Dr. D.: No, I am not home, still on campus. Guy B.: When Bob had something lined up. He didn't tell me much, let alone put some pressure on me and yet, I panicked. Daniel Bienvenu: you was there and not him Guy B.: Hey Dr. D. rich-c: what sort of ideas are you playing with, Guy?
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changed username to Judy Guy B.: The side trip and the banquet. Judy: Hello, All La Rousse: Hi Judy rich-c: my own sense is don't fuss about the side trip, just leave that afternoon free Daniel Bienvenu: hi Judy Guy B.: Now, I hurt someone I know who was trying to help. Guy B.: Hi Judy Dr. D.: chat problems have to reboot Pamela: Hi, Judy Dr. D.: back soon rich-c: hi Judy, your old man has done gone and skipped out on us Daniel Bienvenu: quite fast Guy B.: You guys feel you want to do something on your own? Daniel Bienvenu: two in a row Judy: is probably coming upstairs, was working in the basement Daniel Bienvenu: anyone else want to say "be back" then instantly disappear? rich-c: well bluntly, we;'re going to anyway - I've mentioned Shedd and Field and Art Institute and shopping and that's just my family Guy B.: Well I just found the Art Institute will start charging a $12 admission beginning in June. Pamela: don't forget Dad, we'll be staying an extra three days to fit in some of those things Pamela: that's not bad, Guy rich-c: in fact, if you sort of put general intereest sessions one day and high geek another, it would likely be appreciated Guy B.: It use to be a whatever you want to donate before. Pamela: Erin, what's the current admission to the AGO? rich-c: last time we were there it was for the Monet exhibit so it had an entry fee then anyway La Rousse: $15 I think now....and they still charge it even when half the place is under renovation rich-c: I think it's free, Pam, because of all the construction - payback for the annoyance
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changed username to Dr. D. Pamela: so there you go, Guy Daniel Bienvenu: hello again Dr.R Daniel Bienvenu: err.. Dr.D Daniel Bienvenu: :-) Pamela: better Rich? Dr. D.: Curse Safari, will not support this chat...had to go to Exploder, ugh. Dr. D.: Hi Pam La Rousse: Hi again Honeys Dr. D.: La Rousse? Dr. D.: The Russian? La Rousse: no rich-c: Pam, your mother went last week and everything but the special exhibits was free rich-c: the dictionary Pamela: oh yes, slipped my mind - for the Milne exhibit, right? Pamela: (note to self - call my mother) La Rousse: Daniel...what's the translation of "la rousse" rich-c: yes, she really likes his stuff - won't say it leaves me cold but I am not big fan Daniel Bienvenu: err... pink hair? Daniel Bienvenu: not sure Pamela: close enough, Rin : ) Dr. D.: PINK HAIR?!?! Dr. D.: bleh La Rousse: red head Daniel Bienvenu: in fact, it's red hair rich-c: The French equivalent of Webster's (or Funk & Wagnalls) is the Larousse - so it's used as a term meaning dictionary La Rousse: see! Dr. D.: Then it must be RIn...jeez have you been at the Miss Clairol again? La Rousse: I am always a redhead....just not the same shade Dr. D.: The Red-Headed Dictionary...sounds like something Ambrose Bierce would have written. Pamela: brb, gonna go kiss my hubby g'bye Dr. D.: Bye Russel Dr. D.: Russell Daniel Bienvenu: roux / rousse : reddish, reddish-brown; red-haied, sandy. ... choose what you prefer rich-c: right, Daniel, and Miss Clairol will produce it for you! La Rousse: I choose red-haired and thank you Daniel :-) Daniel Bienvenu: err.. missing a letter r in "red-haired" rich-c: don't worry, Daniel, my typewriter (keyboard) cant spell either Daniel Bienvenu: well, rousse is also a beer color :-) La Rousse: that works for me too :-) La Rousse: hehe rich-c: yes, it's a type that is gaining popularity now - I think Jill likes it
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changed username to Guy B. Daniel Bienvenu: twins rich-c: you're twins, Guy Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. The system froze while I was typing.
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changed username to BobS Pamela: you and Bob must have the same keyboard, Dad :) rich-c: vhange your name to Guy! so we know which to delete
Guy B. changed username to Hodar Hodar: The name is Hodar
rich-c requested to ban Guy B.
BobS confirmed ban
Pamela confirmed ban
La Rousse confirmed ban BobS: which means WHAT???? Hodar: So get rid of the original me. rich-c: now you can put it back to GuyB if you like
Hodar confirmed ban rich-c: anyhow, Guy, let's talk convention
Hodar changed username to Guy B. And Annie Pamela: Guy, have you got a website address for the El? rich-c: for the banquet - won't that be dictated to some extent by where we end up staying? La Rousse: employment insurance? Guy B. And Annie: www.transitchicago.com. Oh, by the way we are going to have a new line, Pink. rich-c: opening in time for the con? 8 - ) Guy B. And Annie: I thought I put Annie here. She's now 7 months old. Guy B. And Annie: June 25th. It will run from 54th/Cermak and go over a line that hasn't been used in 50 years and then it will join the Green line to the Loop L downtown. rich-c: any promising hotels near it? Guy B. And Annie: Bob what was that hotel you had last week? Pamela: I have to find a decent map of Chicago
Dr. D. confirmed ban BobS: http://www.hotels.com/property.do?COYear=2006&searchID=AC102642-4865-CE91-0A92-53B6F0395F28&propertyIdsToCompareString=&destination=0a76bcac-47c9-49d9-8f2d-b164a6e568d4%7Ca4612550-4076-4a1a-b92d-11868a13f267%7CChicago%2C+IL%2C+USA%7C1&mtnHotelID=306200&numrooms=3&roomOccupancyString=3%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0&searchMtmPropertySupplierId=&PSRC=OT2&usertypedcity=&paging=3&alternateSell=&searchType=&sortBy=HCOMPICK&CIMonth=7&CODay=16&allPropertyTypesSelected=true&COMonth=7&priceRangeKey=1&TSRC=1&CIYear=2006&CIDay=13&js=1&zz=1146102320120 rich-c: may have to go online for it, Pam - the road atlases are not that great BobS: super 8 by the airport Guy B. And Annie: No hotels near there. I will have to venture further west from that location. I'm inquiring a Super 8 in River Grove. Guy B. And Annie: That's long man. Pamela: I bought a map of Chicago from Chapters the other day but it doesn't go out very far -just Chicago proper, I think. rich-c: didn't you say, Bob, this is a brand new one and their new flagship? Pamela: Hard to tell BobS: supposedly Guy B. And Annie: I wait until the log is posted and copy and paste it from there. I can't get it right now. Guy B. And Annie: Is it, aww shoot. I'll still check it out. rich-c: I know Frances had a real problem finding it on the Super* website Guy B. And Annie: I found several spots there during the weekend.
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changed username to *Geoff!* Pamela: greetings, Geoff BobS: hey Geoff *Geoff!*: hey y'all! Judy: hi, Geoff rich-c: hi geoff, and welcome La Rousse: hello Geoff rich-c: @Guy - it's in Elk Grove Village, 5 miles NW from O'Hare Pamela: which reminds me, I wanted to start buying US dollars while the Canadian $ is still up there rich-c: don't rush it Pam, I suspect ours will climb on average for the next month *Geoff!*: speaking of canada, I'll be going to Victoria again this year. :) rich-c: hey, neat - shall we speculate as to the purpose of the visit? Pamela: I don't want to wait till the last minute either, Dad - spread out the pain a bit : ) *Geoff!*: just a short vacation. It'll only be for a day or two. Principally going to see more of Seattle on this trip. Pamela: somehow the $6.65 in small change I've collected over the last couple of years (not to mention about $3.00 in pennies) is going to cut it *Geoff!*: with the way gas is right now, I don't suspect that the exchange rate is going to be any more favorable for me as time progresses to the 4th of July holiday. rich-c: well, don't rush it - remember we supply 30% of all US oil imports - and they're paying big bucks for that these days rich-c: if you're going to Victoria, geoff, buy your Canadian dollars now *Geoff!*: that's what I've been thinkin. *Geoff!*: May have to make a trip to the bank downtown tomorrow... payday's tomorrow. rich-c: atthe moment they are about US$0.88 each Dr. D.: folks I am sorry for not being talkative...I am on campus and there is some developing stuff with a troubled student that I am going to have to sign off to deal with. Pamela: okay Rich - good luck rich-c: OK Rich take care, see you soon Dr. D.: Thanks...hope all goes well here. *Geoff!*: yeah, just noticed that. I remember the first trip I made to Canada a few years back it was like $.68US->$1CAD. Those were the days. ;) Dr. D.: <poof>
Dr. D. left chat session Pamela: depends which side of the border you're on, Geoff : ) *Geoff!*: heheheh rich-c: you can still spend US dollars in Canada, of course - just don't expect a good exchange rate *Geoff!*: that's true. *Geoff!*: 'course in my experience at some places you pay in USD, and you get change back in CAD $ for $...works out real good for those scoundrels. rich-c: yes, that's one of the subtler rackets Pamela: to buy US dollars today per TD was $1.149 rich-c: likely you'll get the best deal from your own bank, but they may have to order the currency in, so give them a few days notice *Geoff!*: I know a local branch of my bank will exchange currency, but I'm not sure what the brokerage fees are right now. rich-c: if you are a depositor you will likely get teh best - likely 1 or 1.5% though some banks are greedy rich-c: make sure they know you are a depositor before you start negotiating, of course BobS: around here the ba$$$$$ are very greedy, was better off getting ripped off at the border Pamela: Erin, what do you do if you want to buy US $, go into CIBC? rich-c: but your banking system is so different from ours that it's really hard to offer advice La Rousse: sometimes....but now I just get cash out at the Key Bank Pamela: oh, withdraw from an American bank machine? That works : ) La Rousse: yep...better than going to a bank La Rousse: discovered it worked and ran with it rich-c: your own branch will almost certainly have all the US $ you want, though you may have to take some 50's, maybe even 100s Pamela: seems to me we did that in Cleveland and GR and it worked just fine rich-c: ever figured out what their exchange rate is, and their service charge. Rin? *Geoff!*: Only problem with using plastic (other than an ATM card) is that the credit card company charges 3% transaction fee for foreign currency charges. At least all mine do. La Rousse: the service charge was $3 rich-c: and what was the brokerage? La Rousse: exchange changes with the bank.....so throughout the day it changes to reflect BobS: THAT is the problem Geoff.....but whatcha gonna do mon.........they will get you one way or the other Pamela: seems to me that our Visa charges a small flat fee *Geoff!*: U got that right, Bob. They'll get you coming and going. Pamela: again, big differences between Canadian and US credit cards BobS: well Pam ours screws us....Discover Card doesn't charge, but it is hard to find anyone in CA taht takes it Judy: Discover charges the least but no one will take it rich-c: there is a difference - that is why I maintain a US dollar VISA card La Rousse: on my bank card all I had was the $3 and whatever the rate was at the time I withdrew BobS: kinda sucks don't it....we are supposed to be good neighbors............BUT Pamela: I've never seen anyone in Canada who takes Discover, Bob rich-c: you don't know what commission was built into the rate, Rin - and did your home bank have a transaction charge too? BobS: first the postal system beats you up, then the immigration is fighting within itself about ID
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changed username to Guy B. BobS: hotel on Vancouver Island did Guy B.: Ok, I'm back. I'm having all sorts of problems with the Athlon. Pamela: speak to it sternly, Guy : ) *Geoff!*: Where's the best places to stay in Victoria? As in good'n'cheap? rich-c: there are a few places here that take it - mostly subsidiaries of US outfitsd Pamela: we need Ron for that, Geoff BobS: KICK it BobS: pp[sx Guy B.: Pam, did you check the website? rich-c: in July, geoff? surely you jest ; - )
(Pamela gives rich-c a nice tall frosty Guinness) *Geoff!*: stayed at one of the many Travellers Inns last year. BobS: YES, we stayed oncve at the Royal Dutchman or something like that La Rousse: cosidering my bank there probably was not commission at this end....next time I'm there I will check and as for my bank charge not sure Pamela: the transit one? Not yet, I'll look at it later rich-c: gonna swap it for a Biere Noire, Pam, but thanks anyway BobS: ANd last time we stayed at........about 5 blocks for the waterfront at a family owned hotel.....cant remember the name thoug Pamela: one works with what one is given, Dad BobS: was about 55US per inght I think La Rousse: probably no more that haviing a bank account with the big companies that charge regular fees *Geoff!*: wow, that's pretty good. BobS: look in Hotels.com Guy B.: Ok, folks. Any ideas for Saturday afternoon??? La Rousse: I mean comparatively to how many transactions I make to monthly fees (with TD or CIBC) Pamela: Shedd Aquarium? La Rousse: anything to do with Capone :-) rich-c: think that would fly with us rich-c: I think Ron wants to go to the White Sox game Guy B.: Has anyone ever been to the Adler Planetarium? Pamela: just thinking it would be a good place for a group because we can wander at will but still loosely stick together, as we did last year at Cullen Gardens Guy B.: It's a museum with space and it has a super sky show. Pamela: that's another good idea, Guy La Rousse: that's one place we didn't go rich-c: no, but we had one in Toronto for some time, and I've been to the Hayden in New York Pamela: I know both Russell and Rich would be very interested Guy B.: They recently got a capsule from the Gemini mission. Pamela: speaking of which, Erin, you might mention to Rich if he doesn't already know that there's a possible comet tail sighting ( I think it's a comet tail) this weekend La Rousse: oh really??? nevermind Rich, that interests me rich-c: sorry if I sound unexcited, but I have been to Cape Canaveral and the Air & Space Museum in Washington - sort of seen it Pamela: Russell's very interested in getting the telescope set up and is keeping fingers toes and eyeballs crossed for good clear weather BobS: GEOFF.....Paul's Motor Inn (about $80 US it says.....we were there 4 yrs ago) and it is about 4 blocks form the waterfront - walking distance - little olderhotel, but clean and neat rich-c: but book now, Bob? BobS: corporate rates $80 CA Pamela: I know I want some time to go shopping, too Pamela: just give me a mall with a Lane Bryant and a Coldwater Creek and I'll be happy rich-c: yes, but you are staying extra days, Pam *Geoff!*: Yeah, I was just noticing that. That's about the same distance to the waterfront as the one that we stayed in last year. BobS: simply checked for June 26th.....easy date- http://reservations.hotel-guides.us/hotel/10012605-11277483O.html rich-c: which reminds me, Giuy - when you start bargaining, remember some of us will want additional nights, so you'll be offering extra business Guy B.: Ok, Rich. I'll keep that in mind. Pamela: Guy, right now we're planning on flying in Friday morning the 14th and leaving Thursday the 20th, so Friday to Wednesday night - six days Daniel Bienvenu: someone here tried adobe photoshop elements? I need opinions about this product. Pamela: (note to self: don't pack more than I can carry) BobS: haven't done it Daniel *Geoff!*: Pam: I can relate... last year I packed way too much stuff. hehehe Pamela: and Guy, you might ask the hotel if they offer a AAA / CAA discount rich-c: Guy, Frances and I will likely come early and stay as long ass others are around Pamela: should have seen me in Grand Rapids, Geoff - I couldn't lift my suitcase : ). I had to get Russell to lift it. rich-c: and Ron Mitchell usually stays extra days too Daniel Bienvenu: ... well, I suppose no one tried this adobe product. Pamela: sorry Daniel, I've never worked with it : ( rich-c: actually, Daniel, a number of my buddies on carnuts.ws use Photoshop, but none talk about elements Pamela: maybe I should come with an empty suitcase and fill it while I'm there : ) rich-c: and I never do any editing at that level - just use Irfanview or other freebie products Guy B.: Got an idea. For those who want to stay past the con dates. E-mail me how long you want to stay past, so I can have a log and to tell the hotel. Send to firstname.lastname@example.org rich-c: tentatiovely, Guy, we will look to arrive on Wednesday and likely stay through the following Wednesday rich-c: if it doesn't look suspicious, Pam, maybe we could bring one of your suitcases home for you and save you airline charges rich-c: in fact, maybe we could even take an empty down with us Pamela: now there's a thought : ) Pamela: we'll see Dad rich-c: keep it in mind and negotiate with your mother when you call ; - ) Pamela: Guy, just sent you an email with our dates rich-c: I think the Clevelanders will stay only the minimum Guy B.: Ok, great Pam. So far, you and your dad are the ones staying past the con dates. Pamela: bet Ron will, too La Rousse: Rich and I unfortunately won't be staying longer rich-c: and from what Bob said earlier, he may be driving hom,e right from the banquet Pamela: Bob, you're going home Sunday night??? BobS: don't knoiw yet Pamela: that would be the convenient illness I came in on, right? BobS: depends on whether I get the job offer extended and starta new one rich-c: he may have a new job and have to play sick to get to the con at all BobS: won't know for 3 weeks or a month at least BobS: SICK at a con??????? Pamela: well I'm in the same boat - I've applied for a job and if I get an interview, will simply have to advise them that I've already got this booked and ask for the time off rich-c: no, sick to be off work a day BobS: sucks to have to work, don't it Pam????? Pamela: it's what I did when I applied at the Bay - advised them at the interview and said if that's not acceptable, then don't hire me Pamela: it does, Bob Pamela: I keep hoping for that lottery win : ) BobS: yea right....got hit by lightning lately ???????? BobS: THEN and only then should you start playing the lottery rich-c: getting hit by lightning is actually more likely Pamela: well, hope springs eternal, but in the meantime . . . rich-c: at least on that I've come close once or twice, better than I can say for the lottery Daniel Bienvenu: Can someone here purchase something for me? I can't purchase something I want because I'm outside usa. Pamela: it's only completely unlikely if you don't buy a ticket Daniel Bienvenu: the something I'm talking about is the adobe photoshop elements Daniel Bienvenu: at this url : Pamela: surely you can get it here, Daniel - it's a very common program Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00006ANW9/ref=dp_olp_2/002-4583475-4517608?condition=all rich-c: tell us about it, Daniel, and I'm sure we can find a way (I assume it's legal ; - ) ) Daniel Bienvenu: it's less than 20$ Pamela: did you try Amazon.ca?? rich-c: or better still, try eBay Guy B.: Just read an e-mail from Dale. He will do the t-shirts and banner. Pamela: Erin, can you feed our critter this weekend? rich-c: but I bet Future Shop and Best Buy have it, not to mention the computer-only chains Guy B.: Oh, I didn't give you all the theme for this year. Pamela: tell us, Guy rich-c: probably even find it in Stapes Guy B.: Rediscover Adam La Rousse: I can...just remind me on Friday :-) Pamela: via email? La Rousse: nope phone is fine...here tho Daniel Bienvenu: on Amazon.ca ... a used version is 50$ :-((( rich-c: look on eBay, Daniel - software is often available there Pamela: okay. Saturday a.m., Saturday p.m., and Sunday a.m. only - we'll feed him before we go on Friday and be home for Sunday evening Daniel Bienvenu: I want to avoid ebay Pamela: @ Daniel: ick rich-c: also, do a Google search for it - that's how I got the best price on Windows XP La Rousse: okie day Pamela: thank you, sweetie rich-c: when you do the google, select pages from Canada only Pamela: that's a good theme, Guy - I like it rich-c: and emphasize the game aspect 'cause that's where the big interest is at the moment Guy B.: Bob, I got the hotel. It looks good, I'll check into it. BobS: good Daniel Bienvenu: not luck with bestbuy ... probably "out of stock" everywhere Daniel Bienvenu: nope... it looks like the best deal was Amazon for this product Pamela: try Staples, Daniel Pamela: any idea who's doing presentations yet Guy? rich-c: just looked at bestbuy and future shop - they have it at $129 but I think there's a French version on at $99 rich-c: what do you want it for, Daniel? Guy B.: Ok, I'm printing it out. Pamela: brb, gonna refill my juice Daniel Bienvenu: I don't have photoshop and I have to fix(?) tons of old pictures we scan here. rich-c: OK, first try teh freebies Daniel Bienvenu: it looks like that Elements is powerfull and easy to use Daniel Bienvenu: I tried Gimp, I don'T like the interface... in fact I don'MT understand it rich-c: for small fixes use Irfanview (Irfanview.com) it's great Guy B.: Ok, gang. I'm getting a little tired here. I will keep you all posted. Bob, thanks. rich-c: for more significant work try Ultimate Paint (I think is's www.up.com but googl;e for it if I'm wrong) Pamela: (PRIVATE) Gnite, Guy - hugs to you and Annie rich-c: Guy, book as soon as you can - rooms aren't lasting - OK ? Pamela: (PRIVATE) anything I can help with, just let me know : ) Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Thanks Pam. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Guy ;- rich-c: and lots of luck! La Rousse: nite Guy Guy B.: (PRIVATE) I will Pam. Dale has taken a load off with the t-shirts and banner. Pamela: (PRIVATE) good, glad to hear it : ) Guy B.: (PRIVATE) I'm glad he offered it. Guy B.: We will see you all next week. Guy B.: Poof Pamela: (PRIVATE) me too : )
Guy B. left chat session *Geoff!*: Time for me to go as well... rich-c: also Daniel google for Pixia - it's a growing project BobS: check out the hotels Geoff AND have FUN, Victoria is GREATG rich-c: try teh freebies and you might get better results for no dollars *Geoff!*: Thanks, Bob. :) Pamela: night Geoff *Geoff!*: later guys....
*Geoff!* left chat session rich-c: OK geoff, enjy our fair land and your own Pacific coast, so equally glorious BobS: hmmmmmmm.what you need Daniel ??????????/got ADOBE PhotoDeluxe BobS: right here....... rich-c: anyway Guy, before you spend any money on Adobe, download and try the three programs I just referred you to rich-c: I strongly suspect they will meet all your photo editing needs nad a lot more rich-c: sorry, meant Daniel of course BobS: and got some other Photo program here somewhere La Rousse: well folks, it's waaaaaaay past my bedtime.....hope you all have a goodnight and a good week BobS: nite Rin Pamela: night, Rin - thanks and I'll talk to you Friday rich-c: take it easy, Rin - see you next week Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs and kisses - love you La Rousse: (PRIVATE) love you too La Rousse: thanks all!! bye bye rich-c: PhotoDeluxe is a freebie bundled with certain hardware - totally useless I've found
La Rousse left chat session rich-c: so Bob - I gather Guy has seen some reason to buy into your suggestion BobS: could be........see what hppens rich-c: I very much like the property but am most unhappy about the location rich-c: I fear he will not be able to better it, though rich-c: at lest it will be handy for those arriving by air Daniel Bienvenu: I saw the reviews about adobe products, and it looks like the product I need is Photoshop Elements. There is a "test" on Adobe web site to know which software I need. BobS: I could not find any better and certainly not for the price Richard....most were quite high Pamela: If you're worried about driving it Dad, try to come in early - before noon if possible. Pamela: if necessary, get a hotel for the night just outside Chicago and come into the city early the next morning Pamela: that way you're not fighting city traffic so much rich-c: Daniel, there are better products free - trust me. Don't expect Adobe to tell you Daniel Bienvenu: the comments is that version 2.0 still a good choice, 4.0 is too big and more for expert rich-c: go to any of the Open Source sites and get gimp - most reviews say it's more than a match for Photoshop Pamela: Bob, what job are you looking at? rich-c: and it doesn't cost anything, Photoshop is nearly $1,000 Canadian Daniel Bienvenu: I tried Gimp. I have difficulties with the gui. BobS: building/property manager for a local tv station........would be a good fit methinks Daniel Bienvenu: but the deal on amazon is less than 20$ rich-c: honestly, Daniel - you can get better free, I have told you the names, will email to you if you like Pamela: oh, I like it. Is it shift work though? BobS: meaning???????? Pamela: ah, you poor thing. A riding mower, what hardship : ) BobS: asically a 8-5 job Pamela: will you have to work evenings, nights or weekends? Pamela: even better : ) BobS: THAT is a hardship.......probably no umbrella for ths sun...... :-( BobS: probably not Pamela: I can recommend a good sunscreen : ) rich-c: you think you won't have problems with the gui on Photoshop? those things are murderous commercial or fre rich-c: no copy of Photoshop will ever sell for remotely near $20 - you are confusing it with something else BobS: well kids, gonna go here BobS: see you's next time Pamela: Bob, I'm sure if you simply inform them that you already have this trip planned in July, they'll have no problem letting you go (especially if you've already put down $$) rich-c: take care Bob and keep us posted, OK? Pamela: so good luck and keep us posted Pamela: gnite, Judy! Judy: night all Pamela: counting on your shopping help, don't forget : ) BobS: nite rich-c: night, Judy
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Judy left chat session rich-c: OK Daniel - before you go out and spend any money, know a couple of things Pamela: well, I felt that was productive rich-c: Adobe products have confusing names Daniel Bienvenu: don't worry, I checked twice Pamela: Dad, as you've probably gathered, we're going to the trailer for the weekend rich-c: there is one that is just a throwin with cheap digital cameras and stuff Photo Home or something Daniel Bienvenu: the good reviews I found talked about Photoshop Elements. rich-c: there is a cheap limited version of Photoshop called Elements rich-c: the big expensive one is Photoshop - about $1.000, Elements is around $10Wed Apr 26 23:00:34 GMT-04:00 2006: Daniel Bienvenu : Daniel Bienvenu: and it's only 20$ for the version 2.0 on Amazon.com Daniel Bienvenu: it's not the tutorial or a book about it Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00006ANW9/ref=dp_olp_2/002-4583475-4517608?condition=all Pamela: I guess the key question is Daniel, what is the most current version? Daniel Bienvenu: the current version is 4.0
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: yes, that's two versions back - make sure it's compatible with whatever Windows you are running
changed username to gohabsgo Daniel Bienvenu: err.. the actual version is 4.0 Pamela: then don't forget to factor that in, and make sure that it's compatible gohabsgo: err... hello all. Daniel Bienvenu: allo Guy Pamela: Hi, Guy - you're late rich-c: but Frances is very much into graphics and very fond of Ultimate Paint gohabsgo: I know, left home at 5:30AM this morning, just got back.... rich-c: hello Guy, we were all about to leave Pamela: oh, long day : ( Pamela: glad you made it at all then Pamela: How's Sandra feeling? rich-c: and how is the new job? gohabsgo: Rich: It's cool, took my chances to see if anyone was still around... just wanted to drop off and say hi. Now... the deed is done and I can too go to sleep. Sandra, she's feeling very good nowadays, the worse is over (at least for a while) rich-c: that's a relief, Guy Pamela: I'm so glad to hear that Guy gohabsgo: New job is awesome, am so happy to have found something with job security, nice people, good pay, etc... I can finally think of starting a family. rich-c: we've been talking about the Adamcon and things may be falling into place gohabsgo: yes, how much will it cost? $$$ Pamela: Um Guy, I hate to break this to you, but . . . Pamela: it's a bit late to be thinking about it : ) rich-c: basicall about $300 US from the look, assuming a shared room gohabsgo: $300 is not too bad. For everything? Room + Convention? Pamela: that's ballpark, Guy - no firm dollars yet rich-c: better send an email to Guy for most up to date - though it will be on the Adam mailing list Pamela: and don't forget that's US $ - about $350 Canadian gohabsgo: yeah, about... 3 nights, right? rich-c: yes, it should be doable for that, but you're on your own for lunch and dinner rich-c: mind you, Chicago is famous for their hot dogs and deep-dish pizza Pamela: depending on when you arrive and leave either three or four nights Pamela: mmm, pizza gohabsgo: Never been to Chicago so it might be a possibility, money isn't as tight this year either. Pamela: sorry, had to throw that in for the Simpsons crowd gohabsgo: But I will be showing up alone. rich-c: tedchnically, four, but Thursday is arrivals only, and Friday morning will do Pamela: : ( !!!! Pamela: not that we don't love you, but is Sandra not feeling up to it? gohabsgo: I might as well go to Cuba for a week at that price for 2 people. ;) gohabsgo: My wallet ain't up to it. Hahaha. rich-c: well, I suspect Cuba might be a bit more than that - but then eithers way you have to pay transportation gohabsgo: I'll have to see, lots of time in between, last convention, I decided 2 days beforehand that I was going. Daniel Bienvenu: c'était effectivement stressant rich-c: if you're really durable you could drive to Chicago in two days, but it would be a toughie Pamela: we're going to assume you're coming Guy Daniel Bienvenu: une décision si près de la date de départ rich-c: there is no rail service on any meaningful terms gohabsgo: Daniel: The stressing factor was Daniel, indeed... He harassed me till the end to go to the convention, not that I regret it, but I hated the pestering. :D gohabsgo: Any trains to Chicago from TO? Pamela: way to go, Daniel : ) Pamela: of course, Guy gohabsgo: How much $$$? gohabsgo: ballpark rich-c: no, TO to Chicago by rail is over 24 hours, 12 of which are spend changing trains in Buffalo Pamela: dunno - check VIArail.com and Amtrak Pamela: how do you know this, Dad??? rich-c: I checked VIA Rail and Amtrak gohabsgo: 24 hrs is a long time, I'd rather spend the 6-7 hrs driving Pamela: are you sure you read that right??? rich-c: we consider TO- Chicago two fairly easy days drive, add teh distance to Montreal and you have problems rich-c: wrong question, daughter gohabsgo: TO to Chicago is how many hours by car? Pamela: check flights too, Guy - I found one from T.O. to Chicago for about $300 return gohabsgo: That's not bad at all. rich-c: do you want a wild guess or an honest anser? if the latter, try MapQuest or whatever the website is gohabsgo: wild guess is usually more precise. Pamela: we thought about driving, but the flight is so cheap, and the cost of gas so high, and the flight so short, it didn't seem worth it Pamela: LOL gohabsgo: would be fun seeing you guys again, that's for sure, had a blast last time! Pamela: about six hours from Toronto to Grand Rapids, probably another four or five to Chicago - ball park Pamela: and we want you there, Guy rich-c: I can't really tell, Guy; I drive gently, start late, stop early, so my estimate won't suit you Pamela: you could bring Daniel : ) gohabsgo: I could, but won't be able to pay for him... gohabsgo: If I take the plane. Pamela: I know, just wishful thinking gohabsgo: But hold on, he's got a job too!!! rich-c: I can make it comfortably from Toronto to Grand Rapids in one of my days, and Bob says it's about 90 to 120 minutes to Chicago from there. gohabsgo: Money is rolling in... Daniel Bienvenu: no, I already said to Guy that I will not be at the convention this year gohabsgo: Bah humbug... Pamela: et pourquoi pas? rich-c: of course it depends on where you're going in Chicago, and teh traffic Daniel Bienvenu: mauvais timing Pamela: ah Daniel Bienvenu: situation financiere incertaine Daniel Bienvenu: another summer in quebec Pamela: well then, I'll just have to practice my French on Guy gohabsgo: Yeah, you could, no problem. Pamela: I get that Daniel - been there, done that Pamela: c'est tres mal, Guy rich-c: well then start planning now to organize Adamcon 18 - in La Ville or Levis or even Ste. Foy! gohabsgo: Been there for many years, know how bad it is, glad to be out of the hole. Pamela: 19, Dad gohabsgo: Montreal perhaps? rich-c: whoops, sorry gohabsgo: Great city with a great hockey team. ;) Pamela: we're into Montreal, no problem rich-c: anyone can bid, Guy, singly or incoop[eration gohabsgo: although we did lose tonight. Daniel Bienvenu: could be interresting to see the passing of the banner... with two Guy rich-c: maybe you and Daniel should pick a city and organize together - help and consultation is available ; - ) Pamela: we'll all help, and Sandra will probably be a big assistance - anyone who's planned a wedding can plan a convention gohabsgo: Yeah, we've managed our wedding together with no outside help within 6 weeks or so and came out really nice! Daniel Bienvenu: be sure that Dale will do the banner if it happens Pamela: we did it in four months with no assistance - If I can do that, I can do anything : ) rich-c: well, if you're serious, why don't you to discuss it? Compromise, maybe, on Trois Rivieres? ; - ) gohabsgo: It's a big responsibility to hold an adamcon! Daniel Bienvenu: Montreal should be a better choice... more closer than Quebec for almost everyone here rich-c: I've done it, the Cleveland guys have done it, Dale's done it twice, Bob's done it - lots of experienced help available Pamela: tis true, but all the oldtimers are around for assistance, and once you have the basics - hotel, meeting room and banquet, the rest is details gohabsgo: 3 rivers is really nice for conventions, they have a nice big hotel for that. rich-c: years ago friends of my family owned teh Ford delarship there Pamela: you never told me that, Dad Pamela: boy, the things you learn after 40 years gohabsgo: ... until their vehicles were "Found On Road Dead"? rich-c: that's why Mabel Kimball had that neat '38 Fored sedan, in silver gohabsgo: FORD Pamela: be nice Guy, we're a Ford family - or we were, until Dad defected rich-c: easy there, Guy - I have the blue oval tattooed on my butt - and it's Pam's birthmark ; - )
moved to room Meeting Place Pamela: and besides, it's Fix or Repair Daily : )
changed username to james gohabsgo: I like Fords... Ford Taurus SHO, Ford Mustang james: fashionably late Pamela: Hi, James! james: hi! gohabsgo: I had a Jeep before. Just Empty Every Pocket. Pamela: i'll say : ) rich-c: good morning james - you're lucky Guy came in and kept us open james: been busy with the kids lately in the mornings gohabsgo: Yo James! Been years! This is Guy/Time-Bandit james: g'day Pamela: unfortunately, the SHO is notoriously bad for repairs rich-c: we're trying to taslk Guy and Daniel into staging Adamcon 19 Daniel Bienvenu: hello James james: with the nicer weather here, i'm not inside as much james: hi dan Daniel Bienvenu: Well, only speculating gohabsgo: If Daniel is interested, I'm willing to help out with details Pamela: get outside as much as possible before it gets hot, James james: no worries of that yet james: it's been unseasonably cool here this yera james: *year Pamela: I've been doing that alot recently rich-c: yes, what's your time difference now we're on daylight time, james? Daniel Bienvenu: yesturday, it was snowing here. Pamela: we've had some beautiful weather - Easter weekend was mostly gorgeous rich-c: did have a bit of cold and wet early this week, though Pamela: it was 28 in Windsor on Saturday, the day before Easter Pamela: that's okay, this too shall pass - and we need the rain james: holy crap Daniel Bienvenu: I'm sorry, but I really have to quit. rich-c: we had the rain already - wait till next week Daniel Bienvenu: and Guy, try to sleep sometimes Pamela: bonsoir, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Pam Daniel Bienvenu: bonjour James Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Guy rich-c: goodnight, Daniel - a la prochaine Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Rich james: salut dan Daniel Bienvenu: talk to you next week gohabsgo: Dan: Take care. Daniel Bienvenu: * p o o f * Pamela: yeah, I know James, it was a bit too much, too soon - I prefer to ease into it Pamela: that's why I prefer spring and fall rich-c: well, it's going to depend on his job picture, but wouldn't it be neat if Daniel could organize 19? Pamela: it would, Dad gohabsgo: Montreal would be a nice choice I think, lots of nice hotels, not too expensive. Pamela: I'd love to play touriste in Montreal again gohabsgo: Especially a bit outside of downtown you can find some good deals. Pamela: but first, I have to brush up on my French, with Guy as my guinea pig james: i've still not gone to a con rich-c: imagine there might be something highly suitable not a million miles from Dorval, which would please our fliers gohabsgo: haha, no french needed in mtl, you'll be fine with only english Pamela: but if I don't speak French, how will I practice?? : ) james: yeah, i've been to places in montreal and they didn't even speak french in a few of them gohabsgo: exactly. Pamela: there are some places in Quebec that I'm not sure they speak either : ) rich-c: still it's handy to have a little, just in case - even if you don't go into the east end gohabsgo: yeah, montreal is different, outside of montreal, you got to speak french. james: yeah, isn't montreal almost half the population of the province of quebec though? rich-c: anyway people, my leg is cramp9ng, got to get up and move for a while Pamela: I wonder if it might not behoove me to get an up to date French textbook and practice - hmm gohabsgo: yeah me too, time to go to slepe, we will talk next week gohabsgo: well, you'd have over a year! ;) Pamela: okay Dad - you got the bit about the trailer? rich-c: so have to shut it off for tonight - goodnight et bonsoir, tout le monde gohabsgo: bye all rich-c: no Pam what was that? Pamela: night, Guy
gohabsgo left chat session Pamela: we're heading for the trailer Friday night, will be home Sunday late afternoon or early evening Pamela: if you need me call me there james: guess everyone is going eh rich-c: OK have just told your Mom james: well at least i got to say hi :D Pamela: sorry, James, I still have dishes to do and laundry to put away Pamela: okay. Gnite, Daddy rich-c: fraid so james - you and the family take care james: thanks james: one of these days i will get on earlier rich-c: colour me gone james: nite Pamela: promises, promises : ) james: lol
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