MtlBrat: Hmmmm for once I'm on time and no one is here?!?!?!?!
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changed username to rich-c MtlBrat: as I was saying, for once I'm on time and no one is here?!?!?!?! MtlBrat: I want my money back!!! rich-c: yeah, ain't no justice in teh world, is there? MtlBrat: hahah, good evening Rich!
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changed username to Harvie rich-c: how goes it, Guy? MtlBrat: That's old news, the new news is that the 2 remaining canadian times are doing even worse... bleah. Harvie: Hello rich-c: helloe Harvie, missed you lst fwe days MtlBrat: *teams MtlBrat: G'morning Harvie. rich-c: well, they aren't out of it yet - I can remember the Leafs being down 3 - 0 and winning their series Harvie: Yes my timing seems poor lately. Probably can't stay long tonight, expecting a phone call MtlBrat: ... and to make matters worse, a white dude got the MVP in Basketball, what's the sports world coming to? rich-c: some nights you just can't win
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changed username to BobS MtlBrat: As I was saying.... Bob bob bob Harvie: Hi Bob rich-c: this time at last I am on my "big" machine (the desktop) BobS: hey kids !!!! rich-c: hello Bob BobS: what is happening ? BobS: some stuttering going on? MtlBrat: Cheering for Bob! rich-c: well, he's Canadian, so the Yanks will never figure out his ethnicity MtlBrat: I'm a Canadian, therefore I might be a terrorist. lol BobS: as per usual, the weatherman is wrong......was supposed to get lots of rain, but now flood warnigns are cancelled because...GUESS WHAT !!! no rain...... rich-c: hey, he even comes from Toronto and you know what that place is like rich-c: that's OK, we are still suppposed to be getting some rain overnight and into tomorrow BobS: don't bet on it rich-c: but they can change that if they like - we're off to a luncheon tomorrow MtlBrat: Weather has been nice in Montreal so far.... BobS: don't hold back for the weather Richard rich-c: today was glorious here, in fact the car was seriously hot Harvie: We managed to duck the t'storms last weekend MtlBrat: Weatherman predicts a very hot and dry summer for us rich-c: oh I wont, it's at the hourese of one of my high school classmates - our quarterly old farts lunch rich-c: when the weestherman says that, buy wading boots and a rowboat... MtlBrat: Rich: Wow, you still talk to people from your high school??? I was happy to never have to see anyone again from my old high school, and a few years later, I end up marrying a girl from my old high school. Ha. BobS: don't even know what our weatherman is predicting for the summer, BUT as Richard puts it.....they DON'T know anyway rich-c: yes, you should have seen our 50th anniversary weekend in 1999 BobS: COOL rich-c: we even haed one of our guys flew in from England for the event Harvie: There is that phone call , at least I got to say hello, goodbye MtlBrat: Rich: It's interesting to see what people make of themselves after all those years. BobS: be quick Harvie rich-c: bye Harvie, glad you could drop in however briefly MtlBrat: bye Harvie BobS: so now what......... BobS: here we sit, broken hearted........ rich-c: some do pretty well - our host has the AOrder of Canada and makes seven-figur3e charitable donations BobS: get the email from Guy about the hotel????? BobS: says he is working on youe extra nights Richard rich-c: well, he confirmed we have it which is teh critical point
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: we know they over continental breakfast so that's dealt with BobS: tis tru brat Guy B.: Greeting!!!! BobS: hi guy rich-c: we've always been on our own for dinners anyway, so only lunch to consider MtlBrat: Bob: At least that's what us poor b*star*s like to believe. ;)
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MtlBrat confirmed ban rich-c: oh herehe is now - hi Guy BobS: you can BE whatever you want to be MtlBrat: BobS: Not in Canada... rich-c: that is quite true, and Jim had a head start - but he is a good and effective guy Guy B.: Hang on while I send an e-mail about the ideas for Saturday afternoon. MtlBrat: So where's Dan? Let's all hold hands a do some sort of chant to get him to log on. rich-c: oh, he'll turn up, likely just has to wait for his sister to get off the phone or something MtlBrat: How about a Hooters bar for Saturday? Always wanted to go to one. BobS: but he can't hear you Guy....... rich-c: you mean for dinner? that sounds cool - is there one down by the Loop? BobS: HOOTERS ?????? now that is not nice.....if you area girl
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: our, I think by now our wives have pretty well developed senses of humour Guy B.: Hooters!!! MtlBrat: Well, they make good chicken wings. rich-c: hi daughter Guy B.: Hi Pam Pamela: 'scuse me????? MtlBrat: WE'll let Pam decide. Pamela: what's this about hooters? MtlBrat: Rich wants to go to Hooters rich-c: we thought Russell would like to go so we were volunteeering to escort him ; - ) BobS: yea right rich-c: so Guy - is there a Hooters in teh area of Chicago where we are likely to be Saturday afternoon? Pamela: he looks like he's been hit upside the head with a mackerel right now : ) rich-c: Russell or Bob? Pamela: tell you what - you guys can go to Hooters - we women will go spend your money. Sounds like a fair trade to me : ) Pamela: Russell - can't see Bob, can I? BobS: don't think so MtlBrat: When I was in Albany, I went to a shopping mall and they had a Hooters there. I was there during my 1 week honeymoon in the NY area, so it wasn't a good idea to propose "Hooters" as a restaurant idea to my new wife. rich-c: right, though I thought you might have been being intuitive BobS: WHY does Russel llok like a mackeral ? Pamela: good call, Guy Guy B.: Ok folks. An e-mail has been sent to all on some propose trips for Saturday. It will be through the Adamcon.org address. MtlBrat: Pam: Hahaha... Pamela: it was the way you took his name in vain, I think Bob : ) BobS: MOI ????? Pamela: y'all rich-c: I'm sttil getting my mail on the laptop, Thurderbird isn't fully configured yet Pamela: by the way, Hi all rich-c: so won't see the email till later - what are you proposing (besides Hooterrs, of course) MtlBrat: Argh, an attachement. rich-c: we will go for the Adler or Shedd Guy B.: Some of the museums around the area. Just want to get ideas and see if all offer group rates. BobS: no attahcmenrt I could get Pamela: Guy, there's no attachment on mine Guy B.: Those two are on the list Rich, along with a couple others I thought of. MtlBrat: Pam: There should be, check closely. rich-c: OK, Field is great, so is the Art Institute - think our buncj would love the miniature house dioramas Guy B.: There is Pam. Pamela: nope, there isn't, Guy rich-c: you could always look into one of the lake/river cruises Guy B.: I ruled out the Field since the King Tut exhibit will be there and they are expecting HUGE crowds for this. Pamela: wouldn't Mom be bothered by a cruise, Dad? rich-c: yeah, I think a Tut exhibit on a Saturday will be a no-go Pamela: she's not exactly friendly with bobbing boats rich-c: she actually suggested it and plans to take one while we're there Guy B.: Now mind you. All the museums are open until 5 PM. Pamela: **really** rich-c: that means we'd better be planning dinner downtown in the museum vicinity Guy B.: Yes, those are the hours. MtlBrat: How's traffic in Chicago? Comparable to Whitby? Guy B.: And we will all be back in time for the traditional chat? rich-c: so they close just at teh peak of rush hour? as I stay, eat near the museum and come home when th9ings have thinned out
moved to room Meeting Place Guy B.: You don;t want to know Guy rich-c: comparable to Toronto, not quite so homicidal as Montreal MtlBrat: Guy: That bad eh?
changed username to Murray Pamela: well as I live and breathe, it's Murray! rich-c: hello Murray, haven't heard from you for a while Guy B.: And downtown can be quite a mess. It's just too bad that I scheduled the con after the Taste of Chicago. Murray: hi rich BobS: HEY Murray Guy B.: HI Murray Murray: hi all Pamela: me, I'm all about public transit. Park at the L stop and take the train. MtlBrat: (PRIVATE) Who's Murray? rich-c: still, if we drive in (and can park) then the traffic should be navigable by teh time we have finished dinner MtlBrat: will there be a tour of the Chicago subway? That would be nice to see. (that's if there is one) Guy B.: Now, the only way to get to the Shedd and Adler is by bus and that can take a wile depending on the traffic. BobS: PARK ?????? you got to be kidding Guy B.: We have two subways. Red and Blue lines. rich-c: (PRIVATE) long term Adamite and convention regular Pamela: are the others elevated, Guy? Pamela: and what train station are we closest to? Guy B.: I know some ways around downtown, so I'm famliar where to go. MtlBrat: (PRIVATE) OH, I remember him, he works in jail or something.... Murray: Is the Adamcon on this summer, Guy? rich-c: (PRIVATE) live in central Ontari -Cplborne; teaches and helps on the family farm (should inherit it soon)
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: the Chicago subway (and elevated in the Loop) is quite famous - or infampous - Guy
changed username to Judy Guy B.: We would have to get off between Washington and Jackson and walk to Michigan Ave. to catch the bus, I'll see what the bus route is that goes there. rich-c: hi Judy MtlBrat: Bonsoir Judy. Judy: Hi, Rich Guy B.: The Loop L is the famous one and it is a historical landmark. Pamela: Hi, Judy Guy B.: HI Judy BobS: didn't ya get the emila Murray, hotel is booked !!!! BobS: Hi judy BobS: :-) Guy B.: Murray, we have the hotel. Judy: and Guy, Pam,Murray, and Mtl Brat Guy B.: I sent the e-mail on Friday. Murray: No the last email I got was from Guy saying he was still looking!!! MtlBrat: were the rates posted? Guy B.: It will be in Elk Grove Village at the Super 8 Motel. rich-c: not for the extra days - you did say we can get the room layouts we require, right? MtlBrat: Guy: Is there a shopping center next to the Super 8 motel? Pamela: Guy, can you e-mail me the attachment again, please Pamela: (PRIVATE) firstname.lastname@example.org
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changed username to Ronald Pamela: hi, Ron! Ronald: Evening all! Guy B.: Glad you asked. I'm going to go up there this Saturday to see what is there as of shopping, restaurants, etc. Guy B.: HI Ron Judy: Hi Ron rich-c: hello to the west coast Pamela: as it stands right now, Richard, Frances, Russell and I, and Ron are planning on staying through the 19th, flying out on the 20th Murray: Hi Ron How's the waether out west? Pamela: well, Russell and I are flying Ronald: yes Guy B.: Of course, Be right back. Pamela: M & D are driving, Murray Ronald: Hi Murray Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Of course, be right back
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Murray: i plan to fly out and stay for a day or 2 to site see. Daniel Bienvenu: wow! Pamela: bonsoir, Daniel Guy B.: Hi Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir Pam rich-c: salut, Daniel - we were wondering what was keeping you Daniel Bienvenu: Hi GuyB Pamela: you'll be in good company, Murray : ) MtlBrat: Dan: Hey mon toi, ca va? Judy: Hi, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: @GuyB : I didn't see the attachment file (a word file) with your last message. Ronald: Salut Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: salut Rich BobS: HI Daniel Murray: Hi Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: well, I forgot my ... cap (casquette) at the restaurant. MtlBrat: Man, am I the only one who received his email properly with the full attachment? Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Ok Pam, Try now. Guy B.: Ok, did anyone receive the file? BobS: uh huh BobS: I din't get an attachemntn rich-c: well, we haven't checkeed yet BobS: ya that one Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Bob! Guy B.: Be right back. Murray: I haven't received an email! Daniel Bienvenu: Hi Murray! Did you finish your book about computer? Pamela: well now that we're a good crowd, may I also suggest something that Russell found when going thru one of the museum websites: it's called the Go Chicago card, and for one price you can get free or deeply discounted admission to most of the attractions in Chicago MtlBrat: Dan: Hey c*lis, tu dit pas bonjour? Pamela: check out www.gochicagocard.com for more info Daniel Bienvenu: minute... sois patient Daniel Bienvenu: :) Murray: I've got my book finished but haven't done the editing yet Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir MtlBrat MtlBrat: Dan: haha Guy B.: Well I got it. I'll resend it again. Ronald: sounds like a plan Pamela rich-c: Guy - we got the email but IA am not sure that I have a Word reader on that machine Ronald: I'm not even sure what it is I want to see yet rich-c: and AI lost it on the desktop when I had to do formatA: c:\ MtlBrat: Dan: I had a CV game inspiration today on the bus... Daniel Bienvenu: well, it's almost the time to do a minigame for the compo Pamela: okay, got it this time, Guy MtlBrat: Dan: I will make it a minigame then... 4K is small though for my idea. I want to write a chess game in assembly. Daniel Bienvenu: the 1k contest is done, and later it will be the 8k contest Pamela: you can read it, Dad - it's a notepad file Murray: my connection will die in 2 minutes or so Hope to see everyone in Chicago this summer Murray: Bye all Ronald: right Murray. Looking forward to that Daniel Bienvenu: a chess game? Daniel Bienvenu: not checkers? Pamela: night Murray! Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Murray! Judy: bye Murray Guy B.: Bye Murray Daniel Bienvenu: Keep us informed about your book Guy B.: Ok, I sent it again. MtlBrat: Dan: I'm going through a chess phase these days, playing lots of it, so I want to make a chess game, more challenging. Pamela: and for information on the CTA, go to www.transitchicago.com
Murray left chat session Guy B.: I should have the registration ready by the weekend. Guy B.: I'm there right now. rich-c: see you Murray MtlBrat: Are dogs allowed in the hotel? Daniel Bienvenu: I think Atari have a chess game... 4k I think MtlBrat: Dan: Yes, ur right... I played it when I was 11. Dunno how good it is. Ronald: Sure would like to take in a ball game Daniel Bienvenu: well, they worked hard to make it small Ronald: wonder if it's possible to get tickets rich-c: Adam has one, but it runs under CP/M and is a port of a DOS game Daniel Bienvenu: first, they had to do it because the catalog showed chess and other games who didn't exist so they started one. MtlBrat: Sweet. I want to make this one from scratch, as a challenge, maybe I'll have something to show for the Adamcon. rich-c: I doubt the Cubs are selling out this early in the season, Ron Ronald: Will check on the net Daniel Bienvenu: I hope you have a lot of free time MtlBrat: Yeah, I should have some free time off of work in a few months... Pamela: (PRIVATE) that one didn't work either, Guy : ) but I got the one you sent directly to me Pamela: (PRIVATE) Dad, do you want me to forward the e-mail Guy sent me directly with the attachment? MtlBrat: Dan: Might make more sense to write it in C though. rich-c: work on it during your breaks and lunch hour, Guy
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changed username to Guy B. MtlBrat: Rich: Nah, I play chess during that time. Working for the Government is very relaxing. 2 hrs lunch breaks, 1 hrs breaks, etc... Daniel Bienvenu: I wanted to program a checker game, but I can't imagine a way to detect cases "no winner" Guy B.: Ok, kill my twin. My browser closed on me. rich-c: (PRIVATE) no, don't bother, Pam - if worst comes to worst I'll download the Word reader MtlBrat: Dan: I don't know how to play checkers... Pamela: (PRIVATE) there's no attachment on either general one sent to the coladam list, Dad Guy B.: I got an itinerary on how we can get to the Adler Planetarium by train and bus. Pamela: (PRIVATE) why don't I send it and if worst comes to worst you'll have two copies rich-c: there is on the one we got but it doesn't make sense BobS: Cub tickets available for Tues, Wed and Thurs
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Ronald confirmed ban Ronald: that sounds good Guy. Planetarium would be a good thing Pamela: I hope that was the right one, Guy : ) Guy B.: Ok, I'm one again. rich-c: Guy, we oyour attachment in MS Word Re4ader and got effectively noghting rich-c: how abiout sending the message again in plain text? Daniel Bienvenu: tu sais, quand il n'y a pas de vainqueur , un match nul... comment tu détecte ça? Guy B.: I used Word 95 while writing this. MtlBrat: Dan: I dunno the rules of checkers, but I would look to see if the possible moves have been exhausted and if they have from both sides, it's a tie. Guy B.: If you have a Word 97 on up it should read just fine. BobS: Ronald.....ONLY $18-40 us $$$$ Ronald: what's $18-$40 US?? rich-c: well, I don't know if you messed up in the program or in doing the attachment, but it isn't readable in Microsoft's Word Reader BobS: I got the 2nd email and got no attachement either Daniel Bienvenu: the same case exisit with chess... sometimes, your opponent suggest you to call it "a tie" to end the game. do you think you can detect a situation where it's a loosing time to not call it "a tie"? MtlBrat: Dan: In chess, it's easier, if it's your turn to play and every single possible move results in your king being in check, then it is a tie. Daniel Bienvenu: soory GuyB, no attchment again MtlBrat: Dan: granted that ur king wasn't in check to start off with. rich-c: well, in chess, you likely could write a separate sub-program to detect a stalemate BobS: CHECKMATE Guy B.: Rich, what versions of Word can that reader read? I can use OpenOffice and give the file another name with a different version of Word. Ronald: brb rich-c: Guy, I am rebuilding my C drive after reformat and new OS installation - I can read stuff in simple text for now, period rich-c: I do have Word Reader which Microsoft claims will support almost any edition of Word Daniel Bienvenu: well, I'm sure there are other situations where a tie is possible when there still some pieces on the board, not only the kings. rich-c: but that is on the laptop not the desktop rich-c: I spent all day downloading teh fundamental programs and utilities for teh desktop rich-c: and still haven't had time to install over half of them Pamela: (PRIVATE) Bob, I just forwarded the private one I got from Guy - let meknow if it came thru Guy B.: It should work then. But, I'll try another version. MtlBrat: Dan: Yes, you are right, there are certain combinations of pieces that can never do a check mate, such as a king and a knight, you can never checkmate with that, so it will result in a tie. rich-c: Guy, don't try to get fancy with attachments, just write the damn thing in plain ASCII test MtlBrat: Rich: amen Guy B.: OK, be right back. Pamela: Dad, did you get my e-mail and can you read it? BobS: got it Pam THANKS Pamela: no problem, Bob rich-c: I don't know, your mother is on the laptop and doing other th9ings MtlBrat: anyways, going to call it a night, have to go sharpen my axe. going camping next week. Pamela: well, let me know Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit! Pamela: (PRIVATE) Ron, are you still email@example.com? MtlBrat: good night everyone, have a good one and god bless. Daniel Bienvenu: I will stay a little bit longer rich-c: OK Guy, take care swith that axe and we'll see you here next Wednesday Pamela: gnite, Gui rich-c: you came in late, Daniel, so we'd expect you to hang for a bit Judy: night Guy BobS: be good GuyF Ronald: (PRIVATE) yes Pam Guy B.: Bye Guy rich-c: Ron, you have been uncharacteristically quiet tonight Ronald: busy reading BobS: read faster BobS: :-) Ronald: seem to be having some difficulty sending Pamela: okay, forwarding rich-c: one has to, the way this can scroll sometimes BobS: RON go here for Cubs tickets http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=chc&m=7&y=2006 Daniel Bienvenu: This week-end, it will visit my friend for a bbq party, the first one of the year for me. rich-c: yes, but the next question is, for which game? Ronald: I seem to be stuck in the private message area Guy B.: OK Rich, check your e-mail. The file is a plain text file. rich-c: as far north as you are, that's rushing the season a little, Daniel Ronald: test test test BobS: Houston Astors BobS: Astros BobS: all 3 days rich-c: you're getting through, Ron Pamela: so having read this, Russell and I would cast our vote first for the planetarium, and second for the Shedd Aquarium, but we plan to see both anyway so if other choices are made, that's okay by us BobS: 7:05pm Daniel Bienvenu: I received an e-mail, with 4 points Guy B.: Grab those fast Ron. Night games are the most popular. Ronald: test? test? 1-2-3 BobS: think Judy wants the aquarium BobS: NO THIS IS NOT A TEST Ron rich-c: our priorities with those would be Shedd first, Adler second
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changed username to Ron Daniel Bienvenu: 1 - Planetarium... BobS: RON did TOO !!!!!! BobS: remember sir ?? Guy B.: Those seats are very confortable you can fall asleep in them. Ron: somehow managed to shoot myself in the foot BobS: OUCH Daniel Bienvenu: 2- Aquarium Daniel Bienvenu: 3- Museum Pamela: Ron we could see you, even if you couldn't Guy B.: Daniel are you coming? Ron: yes, it was in my mouth at the time rich-c: sorry, Daniel, only those coming can vote Daniel Bienvenu: no, I'm not coming Ron: oh...... somehow got hung up in the private chat area Daniel Bienvenu: but I just wanted to tell you that I received the email Pamela: Ron, you should have the list now Daniel Bienvenu: no choice without "um"? rich-c: thought you said teh Field was hopelessly crowded with teh Tut exhibit, Guy? Ron: no attachment to either message here Guy Pamela: Ron, check the one I sent you (from Tempest) rich-c: Guy, who is coming from Cleveland? Ron: not here yet- when did you send it? rich-c: more to the point, which address did you use for him, Pam? Pamela: 10:06 pm : ) Pamela: the one I checked was correct, DAd rich-c: shaw.ca? Pamela: yes, Dad] Ron: got it Pamela: see? rich-c: OK - last time I used mac.com and it bounced BobS: Dr d and Erin are planning on coming depending on price.......Geo K coming anyway I guess ???? Ron: Can't load that one Pam for some reason.... but got Guy's text. I'd vote for the Planetarium Pamela: AFAIK, Dr. D and Erin are determined to come Pamela: weird, Ron Ron: for me, use firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com Ron: well I tried to open it directly from the mail program. Suspect I'd have to save it first, then open it with Word Pad. Ron: but since I'm currently in Linux.... I'll go there later BobS: I simply opened it and it came in WordPad good Pamela: just goes to show you, there's no such thing as a universal attachment : ) rich-c: last time I used mac.com for you, Ron, I got a bounce - no big deal, just resent to shaw.ca
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moved to room Meeting Place BobS: guy is havin prollems too Ron: oh doubtless. We do things in reverse out here Pamela: well send some of your wet this way, Ron - we can use the rain rich-c: no,I'm on XP now and I think it's a tota;l disaster area
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Guy B & Annie changed username to Guy B. rich-c: we have soOntario getting flooded right now, Pam, and it's moving this way - look for heavy rains through tomorrow evening Ron: I take it that the message asks for a choice between several options as to what to do Saturday afternoon? Guy B.: Ok, You hit the second one, so I had to add Annie to it. Guy B.: We have rain here. BobS: keep it Guy Guy B.: I think it's heading towards you too Bob. rich-c: look on the NOAA weather radar, that will tell you Pamela: I hope it slacks off by tomorrow evening or I'm going to have a wet trip out to Pickering Ron: In Comox there is no rain BobS: no want it....not heavy rain anyway Ron: We sent it east again Pamela: and I'm not a big fan of driving in the rain at night Judy: we really do need some rain here rich-c: right now you are right on the northern edge of a steam of big juicy clouds, Bob rich-c: I'd guess they are moving over you - inflate the life raft, you never know Pamela: bring your wetsuit to work day : ) Ron: (slurping a large glass of V8) rich-c: looks like the rian will pass out of Chicago fairly soon, moving over the lake Guy B.: I can bring Annie to the hotel for a visit. Pamela: so what else is new in the world? BobS: 100% chance of heavy rain overnight.........HAH probably won't happen Ron: same old same old Pamela rich-c: I have spent the last two days starting teh rebuikld of my C drive, to get teh desktop working again Guy B.: And it's getting cooler now. Now I have to close the windows. Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Got a surprise for you! Ron: is it humid in Chicago in July? rich-c: look at the NOAA website, Bob - it's almost in your lap now Pamela: (PRIVATE) oh??? BobS: you gotta quit breaking computers Richard.........only ron has that problem Daniel Bienvenu: Did I tell you that I have Mandriva and Windows Xp in dual boot? Guy B.: That depends Ron. Yes, it can be humid and hot sometimes. Ron: Moi aussi Daniel Ron: this is Mandriva 2006 Guy B.: (PRIVATE) I'm meeting a new girl tomorrow. rich-c: well my mistake was that I followed Microsoft's directions Ron: Super 8 air conditioned? Daniel Bienvenu: exactly, I tried the 3 cd version Guy B.: Yes it is. Ron: It actually works BobS: think most of it will bypass up to the east Richard Daniel Bienvenu: worked just fine.... detected the hardware Ron: good Guy Pamela: (PRIVATE) oh really ? : ) when did this happen? tell all, my friend BobS: O I HOPE SO Ron Pamela: see what happens when you read the instructions, Dad? rich-c: go to the website, Ron, it looks pretty snazzy - oharesuper8.com Ron: that's right Daniel. Best distribution I've tried in a long time Daniel Bienvenu: still have to configure something for the sound... alsa I think Guy B.: (PRIVATE) I knew you couldn't resist. Her name is Carla and I saw her ad in Yahoo. We both have a lot in common. Dogs and computers. BobS: instructions ???????/ READ ??????? naw, WHY ???? rich-c: either of you looked at ubuntu or freespire? Guy B.: (PRIVATE) In the past week. Daniel Bienvenu: at my job, they used Fedora, then now migrate to Mandriva 2006 Daniel Bienvenu: that convince me to try it Ron: Sound worked out of the box on mine Daniel, but yes, it's alsa that's responsible for the sound Ron: ubuntu aced on the Mac Rich.... and most of them have trouble with the Video. Ubuntu worked out of the box. Others here have nothing but good to say about it rich-c: when I was installing XP said it couldn't find a driver for my Nvidia graphics card - but teh display works anyway Guy B.: You should be able to get it at the website RIch. rich-c: my techie newsletter seem really enthusiast Pamela: (PRIVATE) so far, so good - so where are you meeting? Ron: I'm not nearly as patient with configuring things as I used to be. It either works, or off with its head BobS: AGREED Ron rich-c: take a look at www.freespire.com - it's another iteration of Lindows/Linspire/ etc. Ron: most often I have trouble with wireless on the laptop Daniel Bienvenu: had problem with ubuntu Ron: right. Haven't heard of that one Guy B.: (PRIVATE) TGI Fridays near her area. She lives in Hometown. It's south of me. Daniel Bienvenu: problem detecting one hardware BobS: what trouble........????? Pamela: (PRIVATE) good choice, we love Friday's Daniel Bienvenu: got generic driver rich-c: they just put it out a bit over a week ago - I'm on their mailing list BobS: our trouble was talking to the wireless unit....and Doug gave me .bat file to holler at it with Guy B.: I'll be right back. Annie is now telling me she needs to go out. Daniel Bienvenu: but I had 5 copies of Ubuntu for free with the "shipit" service Ron: well, in two cases now, one with Mandriva 2006, and once with Fedora, I got the wireless working with ndiswrapper rich-c: I got the XP driver for my Nvidia card from Nvidia - and when I ran it they said they couldn't find hardwre to match Pamela: amazing how the critters communicate, isn't it : ) Ron: then when I updated the Linux system, the wireless dropped out. Ron: there's probably a config file that got replaced, so next time I'm going to have to keep track of my /etc directory BobS: man you guys got to talk ENGLISH here, not computerese BobS: OR it upgraded something it should not have........ rich-c: yes, that's teh one drawback of Linux - you have to have a working knowledge of geek Ron: ndiswrapper uses the windows driver and Linux to use it to talk to the device Ron: exactly Bob Ron: right.... enough of that Daniel Bienvenu: if you ask why 5 copies of Ubuntu... well, their service that ship for free Ubuntu cds said that it's the same cost for them to ship 1 or 5 copies. so they suggest by default 5 copies. Judy: he really has some bad vibs rich-c: what is the url for that, Daniel? BobS: had that here when I upgraded to IE6........4 computers worked good, and then 2 would not run MacroMedia Ron: That's always been one of my objections to Linux. Before I get to do the job on the computer that I went there for, I always have to fix something first, or re-write something Daniel Bienvenu: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ rich-c: now there's an IE7 beate out - aren't you thrilled? BobS: had to bcak up on the offending dll file to a 2 month older version Ron: yup Daniel Bienvenu: for my computer, the best choice for a Linux distribution is the Mandriva 2006. BobS: yes Richard, I see that.....but only beta.......means=test purposes and probably no good Ron: So is Doug still into Linux, Bob? BobS: not much I don't think ron rich-c: yes, if you actually gop on the website, it has some "features" that are none too attractive BobS: hasn't talked about it lately Ron: I know he was playing with it, last time I was at your place rich-c: Guy, you will be doing your session on putting Adamem on teh XP Friday morning, right? BobS: was toying with it for work, but think they stuck to XP Ron: ah rich-c: I wonder how they will react when they have to cope with Vista? Ron: Ah yes, "Vista Whenever" BobS: as the price on used coputers dropped out the bottom, not much sense in toying with alternatives, just buy faster newer computers Ron: ya rich-c: I think I have already bought one Microsoft OS too many Ron: Jeff tells me that there Ron: is more to come BobS: meantime got about 7 computers systems here from 400 mhz up and can';t find buyers Ron: more problems with processors, compatibility yada yada Ron: He says, don't buy anything new this year rich-c: never thought I'd be nostalgic for CP/M BobS: go back to Win95 Ron: sounds like a plan Ron: my next will probably be an Intel equipped Mac laptop Ron: running Windows rich-c: oh, I can go back to 98SE if necessary - I'm tempted, I admit Ron: This other crowd that I run with (comox Valley Mac User Group) that's where they are all going BobS: I haveno intention of going forward from Win98Se unless I absolutely have to Ron: you'll be good with that for a while Bob rich-c: and if you have to, you will regret it - learning Linux will be worth it in the long run rich-c: the problem is that the software for 98SE is drying up rather fast Ron: Linux, in my humble estimation, is almost ready for prime time, but not quite yet rich-c: I'd say your assessment has a high level of validity, Ron Ron: just about got drummed out my last Linux UG for saying that Ron: I am something of a heretic rich-c: well, True Believers always tend to be a bit intolerant Ron: yup. and some nights, I could take a gun to them all Ron: the operating systems, thatis, not the people rich-c: with ubuntu, the way they're pushing it, wonder if they're equally eager to offer support? Ron: don't know.... have never tried asking them a question. But I did ask them for some CD's for the club, and they sent a pile of 'em..... 25 or so Ron: So they do respond rich-c: 7yes, Daniel was saying they prefer to ship five at a time 'cause the postage is the same Daniel Bienvenu: I think, like most of the linux distribution for everyone, a community is formed by users to answer questions Guy B.: I'm back Ron: Mr. Bona, I presume Guy B.: Raining pretty good out here. Had to dry Annie off. rich-c: I was asking yoiu, Guy, if you are placing your Ademem/XP presentation on Friday morning Judy: it is raining here, also, had to shut the windows Ron: Well you just get all that rain thing out of Chicago's system before we get there, Guy BobS: Chicago.......the WINDY city Ron: yes.... is it? Guy B.: I think Friday is good idea for that. The next e-mail I'll send is what kind of presention you want to do. Dale is going to do the schedule for me. Judy: they will need more by then or they will be the same place as Florida Pamela: wind just picked up here Guy B.: I got a CD from Bob Sebelist that has some stuff for the emulator. I'm going to check what's on it and bring it with me. Pamela: and may I say, brr rich-c: Guy, since it's the key to our using our laptops for the rest of the 'con, TELL Dale it WILL be the leadoff presentation Ron: Good.... Guy, I think we were supposed to have that a few 'cons ago Guy B.: After the welcome and keynote speech. Ron: He sent a message asking me if Herman had brought it along to 15 Ron: Of course, Herman wasn't at 15 Guy B.: He was suppose to have it back at 15? Guy B.: No wonder it never got off the ground. Ron: yes, that was my understanding BobS: ahso, NOW me unnerstand Ron: oh well.... we'll see it this year, and that will be good Guy B.: Bob burned this CD on a 2X burner and it's labeled V2.1a Ron: my my rich-c: yes, I want to get it set up on the laptop as my real Adam is getting cranky Guy B.: Yep, he hasn't upgraded. BobS: upgrade?????? naw Guy B.: He still has slow machines over there. Guy B.: (PRIVATE) You want to know more about Carla? BobS: ya sure Ron: Slow machines aren't all bad BobS: got some of those meself BobS: no lie Pamela: (PRIVATE) sorry, was sort of dividing my attention. Sure - what else? Ron: sometimes slow is good Pamela: as do I :) Judy: very good!!!!! Guy B.: And I'm giving my P133 to my brother in-law. So, the last slow poke will be leaving me. That was the first PC I built. rich-c: depends on how you define slow - some functions, even my 2.8 gig laptop drags anchor Guy B.: (PRIVATE) She has 3 dogs and we both lived in the same town we grew up. Only 5 blocks from each other. Ron: exactly Rich. rich-c: in fact, I time the boot of XP with an hourglass Ron: rotfl Pamela: guess that makes my P3 a boat anchor Pamela: (PRIVATE) are you close in age? rich-c: no, you'e still running 98 - or is it 95? Guy B.: (PRIVATE) She's 37. Pamela: 98 Ron: Gotta get Jeff over here again. My XP is dragging its butt. He knows what he is doing with this newer stuff better than his old man rich-c: upgraded to 98SE? Pamela: (PRIVATE) so is it possible you might know each other by sight? Pamela: nope Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Tomorrow night. Ron: Usually involves uninstalling a bunch of stuff that I didn't even know was there rich-c: the only thing that runs better here under XP is my printer - go figure Ron: tee hee Guy B.: I have an article that I can dual boot between Win98 and WinXP. Pamela: (PRIVATE) well, I guess you'll find out if the face is familiar rich-c: that's the problem with XP - MS is very careful not to burden you with too much information as to what is going on Ron: Everything old is new again Ron: do you remember System Commander? Guy B.: (PRIVATE) This could be very promising Pam. We have a lot in common. rich-c: seems XP is no longer a typically Windows territorial OS - it will accept the presence of other OSs rich-c: I have a copy, I think Ron: yes Pamela: (PRIVATE) it's really good news, Guy. Now I'll be dying to find out what happens! Guy B.: Dual booting will work if you have both OS's in separate partitions and XP goes last. Daniel Bienvenu: For PC computers unders Pentium III, I really suggest to not go over Windows 98SE. rich-c: don't remember if it was a dow2nload or if I burned it to a CD - if so cant find the CD BobS: well kids.....time to head for bed and sleep like a baby, with the pitter patter of rain Pamela: it's alright Dad, we hope to have a new computer soon anyway Ron: prefer separate hard drives for each OS Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Me too. She is shorter than me and that's around my sister's height. Judy: it is that time again folks, time for me to call it a night, so night all, talk at you next week!! Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Bob BobS: nite all
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Judy left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: Bonne nuit Judy Ron: Right Judy...... g'nite...... hope we haven't been boring you with all the tech talk Daniel Bienvenu: bon, je vais y aller aussi Guy B.: And I think that does it for me too. I'll keep you all posted. Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit à tous Daniel Bienvenu: talk to you next week Pamela: bonne nuit, Daniel Ron: dormez bien rich-c: donc, Daniel, bonsoir - a la prochaine Daniel Bienvenu: |-) zzz zzz Pamela: (PRIVATE) Guy, send me an email. Hugs to you. Daniel Bienvenu: à la prochaine! Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Will do. Ron: :) rich-c: nite, Annie, and that Guy you're hanging out with Daniel Bienvenu: vous aussi dormez bien! Pamela: (PRIVATE) good luck! Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Thanks. Daniel Bienvenu: * p o o f * Guy B.: Bye all. Guy B.: Poof Pamela: : )
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Guy B. left chat session Ron: won't be doing any sleeping for a little while.... but eventually Pamela: well, that was quick rich-c: seems like we have been decimated pretty thoroughly Pamela: just so rich-c: guess that means it's bedtime for all of us Ron: yep, well it's late in your neck of the wood Pamela: it looks like we'll have to get together and discuss outings in Chicago soon Dad rich-c: yes, and tomorrow comes early Ron: I will go too I think >. Haven't had supper yet Ron: have no idea what I want rich-c: yes, give us a call soon, Pam - may be busy this weekend (lots of races) Ron: niters all Pamela: got a lot to do this weekend Dad, but we'll figure it out. And I'll call soon. Pamela: nite, Ron rich-c: night Ron, enjoy your dinner - whatever it may be Pamela: in the meantime, I'm for bed Ron: (drifting to the western sunset....) poof Pamela: gnite, Daddy rich-c: me too, so goodnight all Pamela: kerpoof
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