Guy B.: HI Dr. D Dr. D.: Hello Guy. Dr. D.: Glad you got back to Chicago okay. Guy B.: My flight came in early, a half hour. Dr. D.: Big tailwind?
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BobS changed username to BobS BobS: hi der Dr. D.: Is the OB in the middle for Oh Boy? :-) BobS: yup Dr. D.: Ah, you fixed the spelling :-) BobS: si Dr. D.: it was bOBs BobS: hows the movie deal gfoing? BobS: had the same problem as everyone Dr. D.: I fixed the webserver so it downloads correctly now. BobS: ok, give me the website again will ya? Dr. D.: The tech explanation is in some coladam E-mails I sent today Dr. D.: Sure, hang on:
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moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: http://drushel.cwru.edu/adamcon19/ac19_0727.avi
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Guy B & Annie changed username to Guy B. Dr. D.: http://drushel.cwru.edu/adamcon19/ac19_0729.avi Dr. D.: 3 movies Dr. D.: Hi Judy, and Guy is back again. Guy B.: Back, I'm on WinXP with the Compaq. Automatic updates were installed. Dr. D.: They played for Dale so they must be okay. Judy: Hi, Guy Guy B.: I'm installing another one. Guy B.: HI Judy Dr. D.: I am trying to find my wife, she went out with her next-door neighbor this afternoon to celebrate her birthday and I haven't heard from her since. Dr. D.: Rin celebrating her birthday, to clarify. Judy: does she have a cel phone? Dr. D.: I miss it by a day, we don't meet up in Niagara Falls until tomorrow. Judy: better late than never Dr. D.: It's her BlackBerry, which if it's on, should also respond to E-mails, which it hasn't, so either she has it off or is somewhere out of range. Dr. D.: I called the motel just to be sure they knew about our reservations, thankfully they did. Dr. D.: I drove past it the time before last that I was in Toronto. Dr. D.: It is very 1930s-type, kinda like the El Paso setup.
moved to room Meeting Place Dr. D.: Would be great for a NF ADAMcon except there seems to be no network access there.
changed username to rich-c Guy B.: Hi Rich Dr. D.: Certainly significantly cheaper rates than the most recent. Dr. D.: Hello Richard. rich-c: good evening all Dr. D.: Rin finally wrote back, still not home yet :-S rich-c: if I may judge from the weekend ads in the travel section of the local papers, NF is very competitive in rates Judy: Hi, Rich Judy: at least you know that she is okay Dr. D.: Rin and I have a single room, 4 days Thursday through Monday morning, $260 CDN. rich-c: lots of hotels (not all of which are suitable), lots of restaurants (ditto) lots of attractions (yay!) Dr. D.: It's 2 miles from the falls, basically a straight shot down Lundy's Lane and you end up going through the touristy part of NF and then down to the Parkway. Judy: then if a hotel is notified early you could maybe get some kind of a deal Dr. D.: Well we went through some regional hotel-finding service on-line, lemme see if I can call it up. rich-c: yes, almost all hotels offer group rates - or other concessions, or both Judy: when we did convention we had a hotel spoken for before the end of the year Dr. D.: Niagara Central Reservations. Rin found it just by Googling around IIRC. Judy: best way to make any kind of a deal rich-c: wow, Pam plans to be early, but that's really early Dr. D.: Our problem is that we barely have enough regulars to qualify as a "group". BobS: NWVER tyoo early BobS: NEVER rich-c: speaking of which - who is likely to come, and what weekend is best? Judy: early is the key Dr. D.: I had to twist arms at the hotel in Cleveland for XIII to get 20 considered a group.
moved to room Meeting Place Judy: we only had around 10 and they would talk
changed username to Frances rich-c: I think we ended up with about ten rooms in Gatineau Dr. D.: Week 3 of July is likely best for me dodging various summer activities of the girls. BobS: with 10 rooms we got conference for free, less than 10 on fri-sun we would have had to pay for conference room......in Texas we paid anyway, but room rate was down so it worked out rich-c: OK, I rhink that fits Ron's schedule too Dr. D.: Week 3 of July has usually been the target, right? rich-c: not necessarily - Sarasota was October, wasn't it? BobS: don't know what DFoug and meeka BobS: 'schedule is Dr. D.: AFAIK only IV and VI were in September. BobS: think they have a weekend each month devoted to their side business
moved to room Meeting Place rich-c: given their problems, I fear their attendance is uncertain BobS: think it may be 2nd weekend
changed username to Meeka Guy B.: HI Meeka BobS: so is a lot os us Dr. D.: VII was 5-8 Sept. 1996 Dr. D.: VIII I meant rich-c: hello meeka, welcome aboard BobS: next July, what weekend is not good for you Meeka??????????????????????????? Dr. D.: 09 was 14-18 August 1997 Dr. D.: 10 was Oct 8-11 1998 BobS: 10 was in Florida Dr. D.: The one I had to skip due to teaching Meeka: hello Judy: there is Meeka now, so she can let us know what week-end is bad for them Dr. D.: XIII was 12-15 July 2001 Judy: hi, Meeka Dr. D.: I am copying those dates off my website at APKnet Dr. D.: I know IV was in September just after Labor Day rich-c: well we have precedents for many, but what they add up to is what's most convenient for most of those attending Dr. D.: 14 was 8-11 Aug. 2002 BobS: si Richard senor Meeka: aahhh, not sure right off hand. we normally have a weekend function that month, typically it is around the fourth. let me see if they have posted any of the schedule for next year yet rich-c: note also that Frances has joined us Dr. D.: Hi Frances BobS: Hi Frances Judy: Hi, Frances Frances: Hi Dr. D.: So has anyone other than Dale successfully downloaded my chat movies since I fixed them earlier today?
moved to room Meeting Place Frances: Had to come along to see what tall tales were being told Dr. D.: I haven't been able to sit at the console and look at the webserver log. BobS: Dr D, I can't get sound on the movie.........using Window Media Player.........problem ?
changed username to Pamela Dr. D.: There is no sound, Bob. BobS: no wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dr. D.: It's just a series of screen captures I made at random intervals. BobS: then they work ! :-) Judy: no wonder he can't get sound rich-c: hello daughter - we are discussing Adamcon 20 Dr. D.: Only Neil has the actual video from his one session camera. Pamela: without me??? Hi everyone Dr. D.: Sorry, I thought it would be obvious that there was no sound. Judy: Hi, Pamela Pamela: Hi Mom - keeping us all honest I see Dr. D.: Hi Pam, don't worry, no coups being plotted. Meeka: hi pam Frances: Trying to BobS: hi Pam, leader extrodinair rich-c: so far we have determined that Niagara Falls sounds acceptable and the third week of July is favourable Pamela: we'll see if you say that this time next year, Bob : ) Judy: not to worry BobS: it is NOT a big deal, start early and with a happy attitude, some organization and yo uwill do GREAT Pamela: well now that it's all decided : ) Frances: there are good campgrounds around there so you can bring the motor home if you want BobS: we'll cmp inthe shadow of the falls rich-c: the only problem will be how many of us will be able to attend Pamela: I'm not too worried actually, and we already have some ideas Dr. D.: If you had seen one of the early ADAMcons, Pam, like IV, which had 3 parallel 1-hour session tracks for every day, 9-noon, 1-4, you would say that the organization needed nowadays is a piece of cake :-) BobS: and have the sessions falls side........ BobS: don't wait, take your time, but keep going forward. Pamela: I figure, I planned a wedding (in secret!) - this shouldn't be any tougher Dr. D.: Daniel should write a new game having something to do with waterfalls... BobS: think we had the hotel by Oct one year and by Nov the other time Judy: then everyone else doesn't have to worry BobS: well once you decidee don't keep it a secret Dr. D.: Maybe be a shooter type game, Maid of the Mist at the bottom of the screen, barrels coming over, MotM has to shoot them, Space Invaders-style :-) Judy: piece of cake Judy: ha, ha
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changed username to FredK FredK: Hi All rich-c: hello Fred! Pamela: Hi Fred BobS: now THAT is a great idea Dr D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BobS: suggest it to Daniel Frances: hello, Fred BobS: HI Fred Pamela: second that Rich Judy: hi, Fred Guy B.: Hi Fred Guy B.: Fred, I'll have the docs for the utilities back up by the weekend rich-c: got home OK, I gather FredK: Great Guy! thanks! BobS: Daniel,, where are you when we have a gREAT game idea.......... Pamela: he'll be here rich-c: yes, Daniel is definitely one of our regulars BobS: I LIKE Dr D's idea Pamela: I do too Frances: Fred. have you ever used Smartlogo before? FredK: Sorry Frances I havent. Dr. D.: Rin has just phoned, she is home.
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changed username to Daniel Dr. D.: Everyone has to sing her "Happy Birthday" when she finally logs in. rich-c: I suspect its behaviour under XP may be ledss than perfect Pamela: which reminds me, I have a card for her Daniel: I want to sing too... but who? FredK: Salut Dan! Dr. D.: She is washing up dishes right now :-) Judy: hi, Daniel Pamela: to Erin, Daniel Daniel: 28 yo? rich-c: salut Daniel Dr. D.: Yes Pamela: oui, Daniel Dr. D.: Or 1C hexadecimal Guy B.: HI Daniel and Pam Pamela: Hi Guy Daniel: ni jyû hachi Pamela: Meeka, how are you feeling this week? BobS: DANIEL, great idea from Dr D for a game next convention........................ BobS: Maybe be a shooter type game, Maid of the Mist at the bottom of the screen, barrels coming over, MotM has to shoot Dr. D.: A Niagara Falls themed game. Dr. D.: Kind of like Space Invaders BobS: YES Frances: just make it a game where you have to steer the boat to keep it out of the rapids and off the rocks Dr. D.: Or that :-) Dodge US border patrol Daniel: sounds fun! BobS: but hte boat has to say "Maid of the Mist" Judy: and from going over the fallls Pamela: go for it Daniel Frances: yes, that too,Rich rich-c: and around the barrels which explode when touched? Dr. D.: Could be Dr. D.: And also the random swimmer going over Dr. D.: Or random flotsam/jetsam Judy: poor Daniel we have all the ideas and not a clue how to do it Pamela: rescue the random swimmer Daniel: if someone take notes like this : the boat can go left-right, not up and down.... to fix the game concept. Dr. D.: Divert some water to run hydro power Frances: and the can. boat out of US territory and vice versa Dr. D.: Yes Daniel Frances: and keep the Can. boat Dr. D.: Chased by border patrol if caught over the border Daniel: need someone good on drawing for the title screen. Dr. D.: Just some thoughts Dr. D.: I could try to draw a title screen Judy: this thing is taking on a life of itself Frances: Yes, then get shipped to the far side of the world Dr. D.: Use lots of white noise for the roar of the Falls Pamela: all good ideas for you Daniel - better start taking notes Dr. D.: The chat is logged Frances: I think the word is rendition Daniel: you know that english is not my cup of tea, so you should take notes ans also sketch "screenshot-like" pictures to give me a good idea of the game. rich-c: call it something like "rapid runner" Judy: this is your mission let's see if he decides to accept it or not Pamela: your English is fine Daniel - you worry too much
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changed username to ginger_rin Pamela: coulda fooled me, DAniel Guy B.: Hi Rin rich-c: hi Rin Frances: here's the birthday girl Pamela: Happy Frances: birthday Pamela: Birthday to you Pamela: etc Pamela: Hi Rin ginger_rin: allo allo and thank you Frances: and so on Daniel: la la la la... Dr. D.: Happy Birthday to Rin Dr. D.: My Wonderful Rin Pamela: darned enter key BobS: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Frances: what did it do? Dr. D.: Happy Birthday Dear Rinny-Roo Dr. D.: Happy Birthday to you. Dr. D.: <kiss> ginger_rin: :-) BobS: fah lah lah lah lah, la la la la Pamela: got in the way before I completed my thought Dr. D.: Now 28 spanks Judy: Happy Birthday to you, Rin ginger_rin: thanks all Dr. D.: whack * 28 ginger_rin: no spanks :-( rich-c: many happy returns, Rin Daniel: did you dream of bunnies for your 28th anniversary? ;-) Dr. D.: water balloons then ginger_rin: hehe Dr. D.: She is all giggly about bunnies ginger_rin: no bunnies ginger_rin: just My Honeys BobS: bunner BobS: bummer ginger_rin: lol Dr. D.: Only if spanks Bob BobS: oh ok Dr. D.: Though bun and bum are both appropriate Dr. D.: <runs> ginger_rin: ha ha ha Frances: you should! Dr. D.: <pbbbbt> rich-c: I think we're getting a little silly at the moment Frances: her mom wanted her to wait so she could arrive on grandpa's birthday Frances: but she wouldn't Dr. D.: She works for the Ministry of Silly Labour Tricks ginger_rin: I have a mind of my own I guess BobS: babies are NOT co-operative Pamela: she's always been strong willed :) Frances: but one of her brothers arrived on our anniversary Pamela: we do a lot of that in this family BobS: COOL ginger_rin: somebody cooperated rich-c: wonder where GuyF is tonight? Frances: I've given up on most birthdays Frances: Pam and Russell excepted Dr. D.: I think Rin will like the birthday present I got her. ginger_rin: (someone ask what it is) Frances: immigration papers? Pamela: oh my, August is here Pamela: what is it, Rich? Dr. D.: Oh I wish Frances, but I would not hold that as a present if I had them Frances: yes, half the summer has gone Judy: we wouldn't do that it would spoil the suprise Dr. D.: Me to know and you to find out, as we used to say Pamela: tease : ) ginger_rin: yes he is ginger_rin: :-) Frances: I think it would be easier if you immigrated to Canada, Rich Pamela: my point was that I have . . . um Daniel: I'm happy. I were able to fix bugs in my programs, in the bus, when returning home. Dr. D.: Probably, but I cannot leave my kids here Frances Pamela: six birthdays this month Pamela: only May is worse BobS: good Daniel Frances: Bring them too Pamela: Erin, when is Caitlyn's birthday??? Judy: Bob's is coming up real soon rich-c: that's neat, Daniel. I guess a lot of time and "nothing to do" helped ginger_rin: either the 27, 28 or 29 Dr. D.: I think that would be unfair to them and to Joan, Frances Daniel: I'm in a good way to make an update to satisfy some programmers who had problems to run the compiler with their windows (too recent) Pamela: okay, make that seven birthdays Judy Pamela: when is it Bob? Frances: Well, bring Joan too - we need nurses Pamela: the 29th sounds right, Erin Judy: the 7th FredK: good news Dan! Dr. D.: Somehow I think it all a bit unlikely Daniel: I don't know for a pascal compiler, fred, but I can help you doing a first test coleco program in C if you want Pamela: I wish you could Rich rich-c: I dunno - Ontario has just discovered it's going to need another university Dr. D.: I would have to land a very sweet job in order to leave the security that I have finally gotten after all these years at CWRU. Frances: of course it's unlikely, but we do have more sensible law, at least in this matter FredK: Super, I can always get back to C, I checked for some Pascal to C though. Pamela: all you have to do is start CWRU North, Rich Judy: I didn't know that it was that difficult here Dr. D.: North Coast College of Broadcasting and Professional Drafting Judy: or do your teaching on line ginger_rin: Canuck Western Reserve University :-) Dr. D.: bo Dr. D.: boo Frances: the most difficult part, Judy, is that Erin can't enter the US at all, for any reason Dr. D.: <Rin razzes the phone line> ginger_rin: <pbbbt> Dr. D.: Nope, or she will be summarily banned for 5 years Daniel: what pbbbt means? Dr. D.: So we have to play by the rules. Dr. D.: It's the sound that sticking your tongue out makes BobS: that is just plain STUPID, but so is the immegratioln here Judy: that is strange, never knew that such rules existed Frances: new word, Bob rich-c: it's the raspberry sound, Daniel - framboise in French? BobS: set in the troublemakers, but keep out the friends Frances: I doubt that it is frAMBOISE in French BobS: so WHAT is the prognosis for entering the US after paper work is done BobS: '????? Dr. D.: When paperwork is done, entering US will be guaranteed. Pamela: getting the paperwork done seems to be the challenge Daniel: strawberry is fraise, blueberry is mirtille or bleuet in Québec. rich-c: they might let her in if they feel like it Dr. D.: I see no reason why they would refuse the request (though they could). Just have to wait for them to do all the processing steps. Frances: Daniel, if you stick your tongue out a little way and blow past it, it makes a rude noise Pamela: I can't imagine why they would either Rich Dr. D.: And given the passport backlog, I imagine that all available personnel have been pulled from immigration to dealing with passports. BobS: probably Dr. D.: So we wait. Frances: What do you call the rude noise? Dr. D.: They cashed the check, they have the $$$. Dr. D.: Some day they will get to us. Daniel: so, it's kind of childfish activity doing pbbbt? I'm not sure I use the right words... Frances: yes rich-c: once they have your money, governments get very forgetful of you Dr. D.: But the wait won't provoke me into doing anything stupid or hasty. Judy: then it should be just a matter of time, you have waited this long hopefully it will be very soon!!! Frances: but do you have a word for it in French? Dr. D.: Rin will stay on her side of the border until they say otherwise. Dr. D.: It should be, Judy.
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Meeka confirmed ban Daniel: not sure, it's like "tirer la langue" but maybe not exact. rich-c: did you fall off and reMeeka? Pamela: that better Meeka? Meeka: yup
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BobS confirmed ban Judy: and good for you for following the rules most people probably do not Meeka: my puter has pms tonigth Meeka: i locked up and wouldnt et me do anything Pamela: that is sooo annoying : ) rich-c: the way they are tracking the border these days, she had better Judy: better the computer than you
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changed username to Guy B. Daniel: hello GuyB Frances: I looked in my Dictionnaire Canadien but they don't know the word Guy B.: Ok, I'm back Pamela: everyone is falling off Judy: how are the two of you doing, no problems, I hope? Dr. D.: I will have to leave soon on purpose, need to finish packing for the trip to Niagara Falls tomorrow. rich-c: no, I think they're bailing, Pam Dr. D.: I want to be on the road by 7:30 AM. Meeka: us mom? Pamela: do you leave tomorrow? ginger_rin: same with me...packing and dishes left to do Judy: yes Dr. D.: Rin's train gets into NF at 11:45 AM. rich-c: you're going this weekend, then? Dr. D.: 11:54 she corrects Dr. D.: yes Pamela: Erin, when are you back? Meeka: we doin good. started the 50% dosage tonight ginger_rin: Monday eft/eve Pamela: so is Lindsay cat sitting? Judy: and no side effects to that so far are there?' ginger_rin: yepper I know you guys are at the trailer Dr. D.: I can sit on the cat on Monday ginger_rin: hey! rich-c: do keep notes on any promising hotels, eateries and attractions you see Dr. D.: <splat> Dr. D.: We will. ginger_rin: and <smack> Pamela: I don't know if we're going or not - will probably stay home Frances: 50% of what, Meeka Meeka: not yet, but they said a lot of people dont have them on the lower starting dosages BobS: Pam, this is an anniversary, you are not included mayube?????? Dr. D.: I haven't been to the touristy parts of NF since my high school marching band went there in Spring 1977. Meeka: so far so good thoguh, so crossing my fngers Pamela: no no Bob, they're going to Niagara falls for their anniversary Judy: we are too Dr. D.: Yes, 1 year on Sunday. Pamela: we are supposed to have the trailer this weekend Meeka: I have to take shots 3 times a week for MS Pamela: however, I doubt we're going Dr. D.: Yikes BobS: and yo don'tknow if You are gong............ Dr. D.: Have you started the shots yet Meeka? Judy: 50% of the total dosage of the shot that she will be getting for MS Frances: shots of what Meeka: yup, this is the start of my third week Pamela: well it depends on how hot it will be and whether I get a chance to do laundry ginger_rin: one washer was working today btw Meeka: the med is called "rebif" Dr. D.: Is it too soon enough to notice any effect? Pamela: I know, Russell got two loads in Dr. D.: is "fiber" spelled backwards Dr. D.: Serutan is Natures Meeka: the med does npt "cure" anything rich-c: it is going to be likely the hottest weekend so far - above 30 Frances: that's fibre in English Dr. D.: I know, but it can alleviate symptoms if working correctly Pamela: in which case we'll stay home Meeka: it is designed to slow it down and extend the time period between episodes and lessen them when they do happen Dr. D.: Meeka is getting the American form, Frances Frances: weak cold front on Friday, I think. and a little b it cooler ginger_rin: silly Meeka: it is up to my body to reverse the effects if it will BobS: the idea is that the meds counteract the flairups, no ??????? Dr. D.: I am sure it's called "erbif" for OHIP. Dr. D.: I think so, Bob. Pamela: who's silly?? BobS: cross your collective fingers and hope it works ginger_rin: my hubbys Pamela: ah Dr. D.: Is lucky to have My Rins Pamela: Rin, I have a birthday card for you ginger_rin: cool, thanks! Dr. D.: Gretchen made her a card, too. Pamela: I will give it to you when you get back ginger_rin: sounds good Pamela: Rich, are you coming home with her? Dr. D.: Yes. Then I will depart for Cleveland on Wednesday. Pamela: okay Daniel: (PRIVATE) SI TU VEUX DE L'AIDE POUR COMMENCER LE COLECO EN C SELON MA MÉTHODE, ÉCRIS-MOI UN EMAIL À : email@example.com Frances: Meek, i saw in the paper that they are considering using hormones. Has anyone suggested that to you? Meeka: http://www.mslifelines.com/rebif/index.jsp this is a site that explains a bit jore if anyone is interested Frances: Sorry - Meeka Dr. D.: All right folks, I am closing hailing frequencies for this week. See you all next Wednesday. Pamela: good night Rich, happy anniversary and safe trip rich-c: OK Rich, drive carefully Dr. D.: And I'll see Rin tomorrow Dr. D.: Thanks Pam Dr. D.: <over and out> Frances: Bye, Rich.
Dr. D. left chat session ginger_rin: I'm going to head out to so I'm not totally out of it tomorrow Pamela: night, Rin Pamela: Happy Anniversary Frances: Sleep on the train Judy: bye Dr D have a great time ginger_rin: nitey nite Pamela: (PRIVATE) we love you rich-c: OK Rin, take it easy and enjoy your weekend ginger_rin: (PRIVATE) love you too! ginger_rin: thanks Uncle Richard Pamela: have a great trip
ginger_rin left chat session Judy: night Rin and have a happy time Meeka: I have heard they are doing research on it, but i dont think it is an option at this point Daniel: I have less the blues than the first time. But I cry again one time at the adamcon. Daniel: it's too emotional for me Pamela: why Daniel? rich-c: why, Daniel? Hard to leave? Meeka: I need to be one something that has a track record for npw and get everything back under control Frances: Considering that they are natural, they shouldn't be dangerous BobS: saying goodbye is ALWAYS hard, even when you know you may see everyone again 1 year form now Frances: Yes, certainly Frances: Yes, I cry too, Daniel. Judy: yes, and I sure missed the hugs this year, could have used a few lately Frances: a year is a long time rich-c: remember Pat Herrington? she just couldn't say goodbye to anyone without a good cry - and she said goodby to everyone Frances: and i didn't want to leave Ottawa. either Frances: I said goodbye to all the building as we crossed the bridge and drove along Sussex Pamela: virtual hugs for you, Judy Pamela: at least for now rich-c: yes, Judy, from all of us Judy: thanks, is was great and hugs back Pamela: I also didn't want to come home Daniel: I had difficulties at my presentation... that was really hard, not for the english but I "revivre" all the steps I did to do these games. kind of nostalgic moment rich-c: considering the amount of work you put into them, Daniel, it's no wonder rich-c: you're entitled! Pamela: I like a man who's not afraid to cry Frances: I really like Ottawa - it's so nice to be ina city that you can get out of easily
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changed username to Neil rich-c: ah, Neil is here - hi Pamela: Hi Neil! Judy: not like Chicago Daniel: embarassed, I was. I had to talk, show must go on... Frances: I like the cnountry and Ottawa has a lot of it Neil: Hi Pamela: I want to go back in the fall Frances: I liked Chicago bit it's too big Judy: Hi, Neil Frances: so is Toronto Pamela: I want ot go back to Chicago too rich-c: well, it isn't that hard a drive Daniel: hello Neil, neil...daniel... just two letters different. Judy: not easy to get in to or out of Frances: and it is easy in Ottawa rich-c: or around for that matter, Judy Frances: you and Bob should see it sometime, Judy Judy: very true!!! Judy: we hope that we can Frances: and there is a very nice campground just outside the city Pamela: so neil, any further problems? Judy: but this year it just didn't work at all for many reasons Daniel: I have absolutly no idea if I can make it for next year but I will try to for sure. Pamela: start saving now Daniel Frances: you have to see Niagara Falls at least once, Daniel rich-c: well, let's say the odds seem to be in your favour, Daniel Guy B.: I'll be right back. Have to reboot
Guy B. left chat session Daniel: I saw them once already... I find pictures of me at niagara falls with my family, I had 6 or 7 years old. Frances: I know, Judy - but I missed you Neil: No, no further problems that I've seen. I was very, very tired so I haven't actually got around to calculating the final bottom line. Daniel: I had is in french,... I was is in english... I still have to remember that Judy: that is where we went on our honeymoon many, many years ago Frances: Too young Daniel, do it again Pamela: we haven't been there since 1992 rich-c: OK - seems I have a leftover bottle of St. Urbain needs investigation - brb Pamela: we plan to go on a scouting expedition : ) Daniel: je suis 32 ans, it's english translate wrong in french. Neil: The guy at the hotel seemed disappointed that we probably wouldn't be back any time soon, so I guess the hotel had no complaints about us anyway. Meeka: we were there last year Frances: we spent a month in the peninsula in '04 Pamela: well not as a group, Neil, but possibly individually Frances: had the trailer Pamela: last time we went, it was before I got my drivers licence Pamela: took the train and walked everywhere BobS: we were to the falls sometime BobS: um..........maybe after AC12 Judy: we haven't been in a long time but the first time we were there was in January Frances: isn't that, I am 32 years old, Daniel? Neil: I was in Niagara Falls just a few years ago, but I still like it. I even like the "tacky" aspect of it. It has a certain charm. Frances: that seems okay in English Judy: it is a whole different falls in the winter Frances: were you there in winter, Judy? BobS: in January Judy: yes, january 11
moved to room Meeting Place Frances: I'd love to see them in winter BobS: married the 10th and in the falls...AT the falls, 11,12th Daniel: In french it's "to have" not "to be" 32 years old.
changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Back BobS: COLD and lots of ice on the railings, etc fromthe mist Judy: it is beautiful, maybe prettier in the winter, ice everywhere rich-c: a votre sante, Fred - St. Urbain is just the thing for this weather Frances: if you went on your honeymoon, that was a long time ago, Bob Pamela: how long have you been married, Pamela: Bob? BobS: whats holding you back???? if you and Richard are well this winter, book a room for a few nights and slip down for a third honeymoon BobS: 38 1/2 Frances: Too slippery for Richard Judy: 38 years BobS: stay in the van Judy: ]you don't do much walking at that time of the year rich-c: I'd like to deny it but I'm afraid she's right Neil: Yes, Frances but in French it is "J'ai 32 ans" literally "I have 32 years" BobS: go when there is a thaw so that the only ice would be on the railings etc and stay inside Frances: Yes, Neil, I had forgotten BobS: winter in NIagra canbe a last minute trip, no waiting or crowds Judy: it really is worth seeing in the winter Frances: but the best thing, Bob, is to see everything covered in ice, even the trees rich-c: the hotels have really attractive weekend packages, too BobS: we stayed in a hotel just up from the falls (canadian side) which is not there any longer, it is all park now BobS: one weekend the weather will be good, sun out, temps around freezing, ..... PAM, we are LEAVING for a few days Pamela: hotels come and go, we've found Frances: the day we went to see the falls in '04, the wind was blowing towards the Can. side and it was pretty wet Daniel: bonhomme, depanneur, chaise longue, ... BobS: make Pam and Russell take you.........they can do the legwork BobS: what are kids for, aynway ??????????????????????? BobS: :-) Frances: do I have to answer that? Pamela: we'll write it off as research : ) BobS: see??? it works rich-c: every weekend the Niagara hotels have ads in the Toronto papers offering special deals BobS: see? last minute...........depends on the weather BobS: a short trip for you Judy: there you go take them up on one of the deals Frances: I think Pam and I should do the research, leave Riachard and Russell at home BobS: :-) rich-c: that's OK Bob, my nurse was by to do my dressing today BobS: AND ????? Pamela: I could be persuaded to do that Mother BobS: lookin good ????? rich-c: she was very, very complimentary about the way Pamela had done it in Ottawa Pamela: but who will feed Dad? Russell can feed himself Frances: yes, Bob, it's getting much smaller Judy: Frances are you in need of a break BobS: good, and will be gone when????? Frances: Richard buys frozen, he has feed himself Pamela: when you see her again Dad tell her thank you, I had a good example to follow Frances: the question is, who will wash the dishes Pamela: no comment Judy: the dishwasher
FredK left chat session Frances: don't have one Pamela: neither of us has a dishwasher, Judy Judy: Richard would be the dishwasher
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changed username to FredK Daniel: déjà vu. Frances: to have a d.w, I would have to give up too much storage rich-c: well, it's been there since February, but gone from 7 x 5 to 3 x 2 cm, so you figure it out Judy: I see Frances: it is a terrible scar, Judy, but it is getting there Pamela: and we're not allowed one in the apartment rich-c: we don't have a microwave for the same reason Judy: that sounds like quite an improvement, richard Pamela: it still looks horrible Judy, but much better than it was
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Roberto requested to ban BobS
Pamela confirmed ban
rich-c confirmed ban Pamela: it's the first time I had a good look at it in months
Meeka confirmed ban Daniel: Bob?
Neil confirmed ban Roberto: my wireless is working??????? don't know why, but it told me that and my chat stopped rich-c: he's gone and come back as Roberto, Daniel Roberto: si senor rich-c: I had quite a time convincing our laptop that it was no longer on wireless when we got home Daniel: ok... Bob is Robert... and Jim is James... any other names have this kind of variations? Frances: I could probably work out a way to get a microwave if I tried but it is too much trouble right now Roberto: sometimes they get a mind of thier own Pamela: strangely enough, we had no trouble switching back Dad rich-c: finally got it online by firing up the desktop with the laptop sharing the router
moved to room Meeting Place Frances: lots, Daniel - John becomes Jack Pamela: one of the things we did first was remove the wireless card Roberto: when we came home from Traverse City, my laptop wansted to connect to the wireless is saw up there, even though it couldn'thook up
changed username to Guy B. Daniel: welcome back Guy
moved to room Meeting Place Guy B.: Ok, back again
changed username to Dale Pamela: Richard become Rich, or Rick Daniel: hello Dale Dale: Hi all. Pamela: Hi Dale Roberto: hi Dale Judy: Hi, Dale rich-c: hello Dale Frances: hello, Dale
Roberto changed username to BobS BobS: that better Daniel ??? Neil: Daniel many other names have these kinds of variations. Frances: Elizabeth becomes Beth or Liz Meeka: hello Pamela: or Liza or Elli Daniel: so for these names, the person can choose how he or she likes to be named. and too bad for the other names. Frances: sometimes it's what you grew up with rich-c: yes, I refuse to answer to Dick, though my namesake uncle preferred it Pamela: Pamela becomes Pam, but never Pammie Frances: my first cousin is Elizabeth but she's always Liz Judy: Judy is Judith but no one calls me that Neil: Usually you have to accept several variations. My mother purposely gave us all names that didn't have common variations. Frances: and my grandmother wanted to call me Fanny but I wouldn't answer to it Daniel: i understand , rich. dick is... well... had another signification... rich-c: well, not unless they're mad at you ;-) Pamela: it's oldfashioned now anyway, Daniel Frances: Richard, don't confuse Daniel Neil: "Dick" not so common these days since the other meaning has become more common. rich-c: yes - I established my choice by writing and getting a byline in print Pamela: though I notice Bob that you prefer that to Rob Frances: a "dick"is a detective, Daniel Daniel: yeah, dick tracy Judy: he has never been called rob rich-c: or as a mystery writer, Dick Francis Pamela: he doesn't look like a Rob either Daniel: how a Rob looks like? Pamela: not like Bob : ) rich-c: shorter and fatter Frances: good question Neil: I remember when the Dick Tracy movie came on video (my favourite comic strip by the way), that some kids in the video store thought it was the funniest thing they had ever heard of that someone could be named "Dick". BobS: getting fatter, butnot shorter Frances: the latter will come, Bob Judy: isn't that funny that you do feel that, that certain people don't seem to fit a name BobS: but Richard Tracy does not have the "ring" to it Daniel: I think Bob is the taller here. Frances: what about Rob Walker, Richard rich-c: Frances= female, informal Fanny; Francis=male, informal Frank Neil: In case it's not obvious "dick" is nothing other than a slang word for "penis" to the youngest generation. Pamela: for instance, I'm definitely not a "Fiona" which was the other name option BobS: SHAME, this is a family chat Neil Dale: Well after some extensive batch processing last night, I published 22 MB of images to the AdamCon 19 galleries. That's down from the original 780 MB. FredK: Dan, msg gone! sorry disconnected myself earlier! Dale: Anyone look them over? Daniel: it's ok Fred. :-) BobS: was just looking Dale, great job !!!!!!!! Judy: that doesn't work, Frances is not a Fanny BobS: WHO is the gentleman with the beard????????? Dale: I may yet try to order them more carefully by session, if I can figure out Ron's west coast timestamps. Daniel: Fiona... she's a princess in a cartoon? Pamela: not had a chance yet Dale, I'll do that tomorrow at work on hi-speed Frances: Fanny is old-fashioned, Judy Pamela: it's actually a very Celtic name rich-c: not yet, Dale, but soon I hope Neil: A Canadian guy taught a song with "Fanny" in it to Scouts in England and they were quite shocked. "Fanny" is a quite vulgar word in England. BobS: oops Judy: how is the crocheting coming, Meeka? BobS: he was there on Friday dale Daniel: Frances... it's "Fêtes de la nouvelle France" here in Québec, August 1-5 rich-c: well, the English have some different standards in vulgarity - they seem to need a lot more Meeka: pretty good Neil: Bob, words change meanings quite often and can become taboo quite easily. Dale: Who was there on Friday? I took the times stamps from the image files, but Ron's are all three hours before anyone elses. Meeka: got about a dozen rows and the first set of blocks will bbe done Daniel: Here, no kids is named Robert... kind of adult only name. Dale: So they are still a little mixed up. FredK: Hi Neil! Dale: I tried to order the images by date. Neil: Propriety tells me not to disclose what "fanny" means in England. Neil: Hi Fred Frances: Ron was on west coast time Meeka: should have plenty of time to work on it in the car this weekend Pamela: unless you're looking at Saturday and it's Guy Foster, Bob Judy: that is good, maybe when I finish these classes I can start something again Pamela: Fred was there on Friday and Sunday but no beard Meeka: we gonna go up north since qwe didn t get up there a couple weeks ago BobS: it was definately not GuyF Frances: gent with beard is Sale Daniel: I had no beard too FredK: I shaved just before leaving, I asked my wife to take a pic...hehe Judy: when are you leaving? Meeka: friday nognth BobS: ok Sale???????? Pamela: Dale rich-c: we were there all three days but doubt we could confuse anyone Frances: did you have a beard, Fred? Judy: that is good, say hi to your grandparents for us FredK: Only a vacation one (too lazy to shave!) Dale: On the home page everyone is labeled. Meeka: k, will do Dale: I'm the only one with a beard I think. Dale: Looking extra bushy this year I guess. Frances: Richard had a beard for a while in the hospital FredK: Now thats a beard Dale !:) rich-c: sorry, who was Daniel's buddy who was supposed to appear but didn't? Pamela: Steve Begin BobS: the pic I was referring to had 2 guys I didn't know and one woman Pamela: now I have to look : ) BobS: looked like a project being built with some string ????? Frances: women - there were Pam and me and Guy Foster's wife and Jillian Arnott Wick rich-c: uh - sure you were sober when you took it? in the right place? BobS: Saturday pics right by the pics of the plaques at the museum Neil: Steve sent me a message today. He is sorry he didn't really get to meet anyone. He is going to send his registration money now. Daniel: Steve Bégin (Bé sound like bay) Frances: Murray McCullogh's mother was there too but she stayed in the room Dale: I met Steve for 30 seconds on the sidewalk on the way to the museum. But it was so breif that I didn't manage a picture. rich-c: finished the St. Urbain, Fred - very nice, thank you Dale: That was me building a canoe at the museum of civilization. Frances: Steve? did I miss someone? rich-c: as it happens, yes - but he sort of flashed by Dale: And the gray bearded guy was giving me directions on how to make the scale model canoe. FredK: Very welcome rich, I am glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the Wellington! Daniel: he just pass by when we goes to the museum. BobS: AHSO,,,,,,,,,didn't recognize those folks rich-c: but we weent over in the van, so we missed him Neil: Steve stayed in the hotel one night or two, but except for those of us who talked to him for 20 seconds on the sidewalk on the way to the museum, we never saw him. I think his girlfriend kept him occupied. rich-c: wait till next year, Fred - Niagara is Canada's premier wine region, after all! Daniel: it looks like Neil's pictures are dated earlier than reality Daniel: or maybe it's ron's pictures BobS: kind of like Alan Neilly @ AC10, he and wife and kids spent all their time at Disneyworld, etc other than one hour at conventiona dncoming to thre banquet rich-c: I doubt Ron changed his camera off west coast time Daniel: anyway it's mixed... I saw the inside of the musuem then me with my laptop then inside the museum again... weird Neil: Dale where did you hide these pictures? I can't see anything on the adamcon.org home page. Frances: Are there any pictures taken of the river? Dale: Look under the heading "News from AdamCon 19" Dale: http://www.adamcon.org/19/ is the galleries organized by day. Daniel: finally, it's Ron's picture who are dated some hours earlier Frances: the view from our hotel was stupendous, Judy
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changed username to Scott Neil: Oh, I reloaded the page and now it's there. Frances: Are there any on the AdamCon site? rich-c: well, hello, Scott Daniel: Hi again Pam BobS: ALL of them Frances Judy: that is cool, Frances Scott: Just wanted to pop in and let you know there's an article with a picture of the old Coleco ADAM Daisy wheel printer Frances: I mean of the riverview, Bob Neil: I did take pictures out the hotel window at the very end when I was clearing our room. Scott: Here's the link: http://www.slipperybrick.com/2007/08/study-printer-particle-health-risk/ BobS: the link to click is right below Pam and Russell getting the banner Pamela: Hi Scott Daniel: I like the picture of the tiny bird and the squirel Scott: Hello Pamela: It seems you got some pictures I wasn't aware of Dale Guy B.: Well folks, I'm going to call it the night. Will see you all next week Pamela: gnite Guy BobS: nite Gyuy Frances: bye, Guy FredK: nite Guy! Pamela: (PRIVATE) hugs to you Daniel: hello scott Guy B.: (PRIVATE) Me too Pam Guy B.: Poof Daniel: bonne nuit Guy Frances: because I have several good riverview pictures
Guy B. left chat session Scott: Hello Daniel Judy: Bye Guy, until next week rich-c: OK Guy, next Wed then Meeka: I am off to bed also Meeka: see ya next week Pamela: good night Meeka - have a good weekend! BobS: nite meeka Frances: good night, Meeka BobS: say HI to the grandfolks Dale: Frances there are pics of the view a little bit on Monday's. But there are some nice pics in the park on Sunday. Pamela: and Doug Judy: night meeka, have a great time this week-end rich-c: nite Meeka, take good care of yourself - and Doug Meeka: k, you all have a good weekend too :) Daniel: so my printer is my ennemy
Meeka left chat session Scott: 1 Daniel: but it doesn't smell like ink, so I suppose it's safe. BobS: hi Scott Frances: I haven't seen the pictures yet. BobS: IF it starts to stink whack it !!!!!! rich-c: I have some but they did not come out as well as I had hoped Frances: Daniel, what do you mean? Daniel: I just read the paper from the link scott gives here. Frances: Oh, I see Dale: Pam, pictures you weren't aware of? Pamela: wasn't aware that you were taking : ) Daniel: sorry Dale, I wer unable to use well your camera when you did the canoe Pamela: usually I'm very conscious of cameras Frances: I missed him, too, Pam Scott: It's not much of an article, but it was nice to see a picture of the old ADAM printer, however nefarious Dale: I've known about that printer issue for many years. And I do try to follow that advice for heavy use printers. Daniel: I forgot my camera in the "conference room" Daniel: I mean, when we went to the museum, I left my camera at the room. Daniel: you know what I mean... rich-c: you mean we have to put health warnings on our ribbon stock? Pamela: I must say, I'm very impressed by my camera Frances: Lord, Scott, I see that printer every day Judy: it is time to sign off, night all Neil: We can probably use your pictures too, Frances. I have some from the hotel window and some from the picnic, but we were in the shade so the river is overexposed in the background. BobS: well gang, I do belive it is time for the two of us to head for bed also, I for one have enjoyed the crowd here tonight Frances: and we wore out 2 rich-c: goodnight Judy, you-all take care Daniel: bonne nuit Bob et Judy. Frances: goodnight, Slopsemas Pamela: good night, Bob and Judy FredK: nite Bob&Judy BobS: nite see ya's next week Scott: Night Pamela: see y'all next week
BobS left chat session Frances: It hadn't occured to me that you didn't have riverview pics, Neil
Judy left chat session rich-c: if we have any good Ottawa photos, where should we send them? Frances: I'll try to send you some Daniel: Someone here knows who is "Raymond Beaudoin"? Dale: Send them to firstname.lastname@example.org and I'll try to post them by next Wednesday. rich-c: Scott, I still need that disc drive back Neil: It doesn't look like an Adam printer to me. I think the issue is laser printer toner. Daniel: from "bleu poudre" group? Dale: Laser toner looks like the issue from the description. Dale: I think it is a Brother laser printer. rich-c: the issue would apply also to the Xerox800 and Diablo Hytype! printers Neil: The best view of the river is from the Museum, but it was very hazy when we went in and I was anxious to go get in line so I didn't hang around outside for long. Dale: I think that liquid ink based printers wouldn't cause the issue that they are talking about, judging from the article. Daniel: At the end of an humoristic interview, Raymond Beaudoin takes a picture of himself and the interviewed person by himself. And Dale did take a picture of himself and me at the restaurant. that makes me laught. Frances: I was over to the museum park earlier in the week by myself and I have pictures from there rich-c: yes, and we have lots from the river cruise, too Neil: Of course I have numerous pictures of the river from all different angles, but not taken during Adamcon. Frances: also from the marina in the park in front of the hotel Scott: Rich, I have no idea where it is. If I find it, I will send it your way. We did a thorough search of each of our houses when we moved, but did not come across the disk drive rich-c: my problem is all the pictures are on the laptop and all the editing software is on the desktop - which "isn't working" Frances: Richard, we can edit in Irfanview and it's on the laptop Neil: The printer story was everywhere in the news yesterday, but I only saw promos "Coming up on tonight's news: Why your printer could be harmful..." Frances: Oh, THAT story Daniel: yes, Ron's pictures are dated 2 hours earlier than reality. Pamela: um if the desktop isn't working, who is on what computer?? rich-c: I doubt it would apply to impact printers, somehow Frances: it is, daughter, and I'm on the laptop Pamela: oh Scott: Rich - do you want me to send a check? There's no telling if and when I'll ever find it. Pamela: slightly confused, was I rich-c: note the quotes? I'm nursing along the desktop Pamela: I'm thinking it's time to do something about the desktop Dad Pamela: like, get a new one? rich-c: let's leave it open, Scott - cheques I can get anytime, disc drives are precious Frances: no, just red-do XP rich-c: maybe somehow it got left with your father, or something Frances: re-do Scott: He's in Arizona now, BTW rich-c: like format c:\ u\ followed by install Neil: IF you do a Google search http://news.google.ca/news?q=printers there IS a picture of an Adam printer, but they seem to have changed it to something more appropriate since then on Slippery Brick. Daniel: at this moment, when I taken this picture of pamela and james, I was not sure if it was a good idea, but finaly I don't regret it. danielP1000863.JPG Frances: time for me to leave - goodnight all and daughter Pamela: why would you regret it Daniel? I'm glad you got it Pamela: goodnight Mom, I'll be not far behind you rich-c: night, wife Pamela: hugs and kisses FredK: goodnite Frances! Daniel: bonne nuit Frances. Frances: merci, Daniel
Frances left chat session Daniel: well, I had this feeling of maybe disturbing the moment by taking the picture Neil: It's laser printers. Pamela: I didn't even notice you'd taken it Pamela: I'm also glad we have photographic proof that James was there! rich-c: note to self: add only dot matrix printers to Adam. Find out if inkjets are OK rich-c: Pam, I'm going to have to pull the plug too. Call us with your weekend plans when known? Pamela: we're staying put as far as I know Dad. Will call. Goodnight! Pamela: I think it's time I packed it in too - I have to be up at 6:15 rich-c: goodight, daughter - also goodnight to Wicks, Scott, Fred and Daniel - a la prochaine Pamela: and 6:15 = ick Daniel: and I don't have my finger in my nose in this picture : daleDCP_2134.JPG Daniel: à la prochaine, rich Pamela: duly noted Daniel : ) FredK: Bonne nuit à vous rich-c & Pam! rich-c: colour me gone
rich-c left chat session Pamela: Good night Dale, Scott, Fred, Neil and Daniel Pamela: see you next week Dale: Later Richard. Dale: Goodnight Pam. Neil: Good night Pamela: kerpoof! Daniel: bonne nuit pam
Pamela left chat session Daniel: fred, je vais lire ton courrier. FredK: j'aurais du racourcir! Dale: Daniel, that was you pressing the "think harder button" on your nose. ;-) Dale: Trying valiently to find my bug in the sample. Daniel: yes, i'm thinking sometimes with my nose. i still don't know if it help Dale: lol Neil: Did you hear me saying before that it looked like you had your finger in your nose. (I knew you didn't.) Dale: I deleted all of the rich EXIF information from the images when I down scaled them. I may feel guilty enough to reinsert the EXIF later. Daniel: you said that when we were at the hotel Neil: Okay. Dale: The EXIF info tells the shutter speed, and info about the camera. Neil: I don't know how big each image is, but I'm very impressed by how fast the index pages load. Daniel: fred, je n'ai pas encore regardé le fichier, mais je crois que je vais commencer par terminer les derniers détails avec cci et les librairies pour nous faciliter la vie par la tuie. Daniel: ... la suite Daniel: I type fast and it's late. Daniel: la tuie... it means nothing. FredK: Ok super Dan, j'attendrai! Daniel: tu n'auras pas à attendre longtemps, je suis en plein dedans Daniel: I saw your file, fred... it's a big exec file and it shows a christmas tree in ascii. Scott: Nice to see all of you, will drop by soon.
Scott left chat session Daniel: scott is fast... well, good night scott FredK: Yup! thats it! FredK: I also liked the info. about th e Coleco in the distribution list, very interresting! Daniel: maybe you want to do the same on coleco that should be easy FredK: Yes would be cool to start! Dale: Daniel, have you looked again at why your menu is not working? Daniel: Dale, have you looked at your emails? I sent you a working rom file monday night or the next day Dale: Apparently not carefully enough. Neil: I have to sign off and finish eating supper. Bonne nuit, tout le monde. FredK: :) Dale: I was barely awake yesterday. FredK: NIte Neil! Dale: And Monday got home late. Dale: Good night Neil. Dale: Let me try it. Dale: Does it work at all? Daniel: the menu show 3 items but only the 2nd and the 3rd ones are games. the 1st one is not working. Daniel: because at this time, I didn't add my game yet. FredK: Well I am in a mood for a snack I had a lunch/supper thing and getting hungry! good night Dale, Bonne nuit Dan! Dale: Until next time Fred.
Neil left chat session Daniel: bonne nuit Neil Daniel: too late... Daniel: Fred, I will send you something by email to help you start with Coleco programming like I did. Daniel: like I still do FredK: Great! thanks again! good night! Daniel: bonne nuit fred
FredK left chat session Daniel: so Dale, did you find the tiny 7k zip file? it's getbooty and spacehunter in a single rom file Daniel: it compressed a lot. Dale: It's running now. Dale: Wow, I never believed it was possible. Daniel: I saw a graphic glitch when running this getbooty version with bluemsx. I saw one time the money bag beeing graphicly corrupted Dale: Or wait, maybe I was the one insisting that we do it this way. :-) Daniel: actually yes, you were one who suggest this way Daniel: and it works apparently Dale: So that's exciting to see. Dale: GuyF and I needed to make only very small changes to our programs too. Daniel: and that was a good news Dale: Will it be hard for you to add in your game? Daniel: based on how I coded my game, I don't think so. Dale: It was your game that I was most concerned about, but maybe it'll be good then. Daniel: with the coleco_header adapted and the coleco library also adapated to avoid erasing the address in 7000$ it should work no problem Daniel: and actually, the header was modified that way sunday Dale: Because your menu is in C, right? Daniel: I can try to compile tonight if you insist Daniel: I deal pretty well with C stuff Daniel: still have to perfect my assembler skills Dale: I don't hear any sound. Is that me, or is it the game? Daniel: I played this rom with sounds under bluemsx. Daniel: there is no sound in the menu because it was a test menu in fact, but the games should have sounds. Daniel: and the menu and my game will use the graphic mode that is not my invention. Dale: Sound does work in vcoleco. Dale: So it is something I did wrong in my AdamEm setup. Dale: CALL MODE1 :-D Daniel: it's a graphic mode 2 but in text mode way... and yes, it's documented somewhere. Daniel: not in smartbasic Daniel: but somewhere Dale: CALL 1f85h == CALL MODE_1 Dale: It sets up graphics mode 1.
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changed username to tu..papi...chulo Daniel: I retyped all comments to complet the absolute os7 listing I did. Daniel: who's there? Dale: Okay.
tu..papi...chulo left chat session Dale: Someone who came and left. Daniel: strange Dale: Some day, I want to make a game that uses PUTOBJ for something useful. Dale: But I've heard it said that only Donkey Kong used it or something. Daniel: John Dondzila uses this mode 1, and you use it too. but I prefer the multicolor option that gives the graphic mode 2. Dale: Maybe Zaxxon used it? Daniel: putobj... you have to set objects in ram that use them, right? Dale: Yes, and they can be built of both char graphics and sprites put together. Dale: I think that the flaming cats on the second level of Donkey Kong are like that. Daniel: but the complex object support part is "not correct" and need a fix in the rom. Daniel: and it's better using mode 1 than mode 2 with putobj because it uses less ram with mode 1 than mode 2. Dale: There is a note about that in one of the Coleco circulars Dale: But they also documented a workaround I thought. Daniel: I included the "patch" code in my coleco coding guide Dale: Have you used the PUTOBJ then? Daniel: no, but I'm looking for it when I will try a 2k game in assembler Dale: I never got around to it. And I always thought an editor would be the way to go. Daniel: showing graphics moving like sprites but are characters Daniel: that the useful part with putobj Daniel: I may want to use Dale: Well, it isn't really small, it is more graphically rich, so I don't think it'll help much for a 2k game. Daniel: should be good for a game like asteroid Dale: But you may be able to work it out. I can usually think of a cheaper direct method without all of the setup required to use PUTOBJ. Daniel: but I dont know what is the next step ... after doing putobj, how to make the animation rather than overlapping. Dale: Did I tell you that I'm working on a 3D skateboarding game for the PSP. Dale: I can't find any 3D skateboarding games that aren't commercial. So I'm a little discouraged by that. Daniel: no, you didn't tell me about the skateboard game Dale: I have people working on the skatepark, and skater models. Dale: Someone to do the texturing. Dale: And a couple of people to maybe help me with missions and minigames. Dale: And someone to do some levels. Dale: It seems like I require about 8 people to help me make a PSP game. Daniel: never did one alone? Dale: Sound effects, music, menus, environment, characters, levels Dale: The first few I did alone. After that I found people to help with all of the different parts. Dale: My experience is that I usually still spend as much time as all of the other contributors put together though. Daniel: tomorow is the deadline for a demoscene competition and a friend of mine did a 4k demo I didn't it was possible. Daniel: the tiny 4k exec file run on windows and uses windows possibilities to show full screen motions and add music and voices. seems impossible to me, but they did. Dale: I've seen some stuff from Assembly and Breakpoint. There's some amazing things you can do in demo scene constraints. Daniel: my friend told me that the compressing phase did a better job on Cstuff than with optimized assembly stuff that did the same thing. Daniel: so he tried to optimize to save space and finaly realized that the first verison in C was more adpated for compression Daniel: continue your psp games, I will continue with coleco this week and try to help fred to start Daniel: good night dale Dale: Fred is think of programming games? Dale: Maybe I should have done more assembly language ;-) Daniel: at least think of doing coelco things. I will show him my way. Daniel: with the special mode Daniel: and the C stuff Dale: Some day, I'd like to finish my kayaking game for the CV. Dale: Do you think he'd like to learn the Express Basic Compiler (my compiler) Dale: What kind of programming has he done before? Daniel: I have this week for vacations and my coleco long due things are in work in progress. so I keep going. Daniel: he knows java and pascal. I think he will like basic a lot. Dale: I have the last week of August off, so maybe I'll do some of the Cv conversions of PSP games I made last year. Daniel: but give me a chance to show him what my library can do, first. Dale: If he knows Java, then C shouldn't be hard for him. Dale: I'd like to convert you to sdcc. It seems much better. Dale: But I don't know what you'd lose. Dale: Maybe Marcel's lib? Daniel: i think i will lose in stability because sdcc still have some compiling errors issues. Daniel: also the tons of functions to convert in sdcc format Dale: Well, the new cci is quite nice. Dale: I look forward to doing some more with it for the next AdamCon. Daniel: I sent you by email i think the version I did yesturday Dale: It should be good. Dale: I'll just have to decide what kind of game to make. Daniel: next adamcon? they all talked tonight about a game to do for the occasion Dale: I saw that email. I'll download it and get it going on the weekend maybe. Dale: What did thay say? Dale: You're in a barrel, and you need to survive over the falls and through the rapids? Daniel: moving a boat at the bottom of the falls and avoid rocks and barrils... something like that Daniel: dr.d said he will try to draw a title screen Dale: I still want to make a multiplayer game based in the card game "Falling" where you're falling from a building with the simple goal of hitting the ground last. Dale: I think it could be a fun CV game based on "Falling" by Cheapass Games. Daniel: the card game I wanted to do for coleco is a simplified version of Emerlaüs. Dale: That could be good. You're in a boat, eh? Dale: You remember I was working on a game where you're in a fishing boat, and trying to guess movie titles. Daniel: the boat have a name on it and it looks like it was important... it included the word "maid", I can't rememeber the rest Dale: Maid of the Mist. Dale: Based on a local Indian legend about someone who died chasing after her true love. Daniel: you checked the log tonight or you guess? Daniel: so this boat have this legend name but still have this action related features of avoiding rocks and barrels. interresting. Daniel: but why the boat don't go away from the falls rather than staying there and getting hit by rocs.... need a reason. Dale: Well, the boat tour that has been going since like 1800 is called "The Maid of the Mist" based on the legend. Dale: But it seems that I got the story a little bit wrong. Dale: At any rate, the Maid of the Mist boats are hired by tourists to get as close to the falls as possible. Dale: So getting close to the falls is something that you're paid to do. Dale: You just have to do it. Daniel: it's just moving to the falls then come back or it's many pass? Daniel: I see now. the boat have to stay close to the falls a period of time so to keep it safe you have to control quite well your boat, not too close to the falls, no hits by rocks. Dale: Exactly. Daniel: I suppose the next level intermission is the boat getting new tourists. Dale: Then you also have to go to the whirlpool a little further away. Dale: Yes, new passengers I guess. Daniel: a whirlpool? Dale: I'm not sure how to make the difficulty progress. But 4 levels would probably be okay. Dale: the Great Gorge Whirlpool Rapids and the Whirlpool Daniel: I didn't know about the whirlpool Dale: about 2 km from the falls, downstream is a 90 degree bend in the river. I creates a whirlpool. Dale: So you have to take tourists there to show it too. Daniel: seems too risky Dale: Could always to a traditional tightrope walk over the falls for a level. Daniel: it's passed midnight. I think I will simply stop chating and watch tv until I fall asleep. Dale: First done in 1890: http://www.iaw.com/~falls/devil_frame.html Dale: okay. talk to you later. Daniel: un funambule? it's a funny idea but in realy it's crazy! Daniel: take care, goodnight Dale: So: maid of the mist boat under falls, past whirlpool, tightrope walk over gorge, and survive going over the falls in a barrel. Dale: That would be a pretty sweet game I think maybe. Daniel: yeah, i think so Dale: I won't keep you. Daniel: keep me? Dale: you wanted to leave. Dale: I will say good night, so you can watch some TV. Daniel: just stop talking after saying my goodnight words then. :-) Daniel: bonne nuit! à la prochaine! Daniel: bye!
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