Meeka: hello rich-c: you're on early, Meeka Meeka: guess so rich-c: so snowboud there;s nothing else to do? ;-) Meeka: something like that Meeka: way to cold to do anything outside rich-c: we got a thorough dusting last night rich-c: we aren't that cold - cold enough, -5C this afternoon, about -10C now Meeka: heard on the news last night we have had snow for 47 of the last 50 days Meeka: we were hovering right around 0 sunday/monday rich-c: oh wow - we haven't had that but we may end with a record seasonal accumulation this year Meeka: our high today was a wopping 14 degrees Meeka: lol rich-c: 0 is around -18C, wse have been close but not qauite that cold Meeka: i think they said we were about 80 inches already Meeka: for the season rich-c: you always get a lot from snow streamers off teh lake, don't you? Meeka: yup, we get lake effect snow from most storms rich-c: we had a lake effect storm yesterday, strong east winds so a band right off Lake Ontario into Toronto rich-c: usually teh wind is from the west so you and Cleveland and Buffalo get it Meeka: lucky us
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: hi daughter Meeka: hi pam Pamela: well, quiet, isn't it Pamela: hello everyone Meeka: so far rich-c: just be glad you don't live in teh southeast corner of Lake Ontario Pamela: I thank my lucky stars every day, Dad Pamela: I'm tired enough of snow rich-c: check out snopes.com for Oswego, NY - snow Pamela: no thanks : ) rich-c: our snowfall this year is above average but hasn't been too exceptional year rich-c: sorry, yet Pamela: I wouldn't mind it so much if we weren't getting it all at once! Meeka: but thats the way it works rich-c: oh come on, you've had your struggles getti g to work I know, but really the days have been few Pamela: I was just discussing with Mom the difficulty of finding a day to travel to St. Catharines Pamela: if it isn't snowing, it has just snowed or is just about to snow again rich-c: well, get in the habit of using the Environment Canada website - they are thorough, up to date Pamela: yes, I've been looking at it every day Pamela: bad news all around rich-c: and in our experience offer teh best percentage on their forecasts. too rich-c: well, next five days we have about a 30% POP at worst, some days better rich-c: mind you it is going to get very cold over the weekend Pamela: yes, but every time it snows it adds to what's already there
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: hello Guy Guy B.: Greetings from Snowy and COLDDDD Chicago Pamela: Hamilton, heck - they go all the way to the border at Ft. Erie Pamela: Hi Guy Meeka: hello Guy rich-c: do they now? they've added a bunch, then Pamela: greetings from cold and snowy Toronto, Guy rich-c: so you should be able to see the state of snow clearing, then Guy B.: Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm ready for spring. Too much snow here. rich-c: yow cold is it over by you, Guy? Pamela: Meeka, have you heard from Bob and Judy? Guy B.: We had a wind chill warning last Sunday, temp's never made it above zero and -30 below windchill. Pamela: Did they make it safely out of the snow belt? Meeka: not since they got on the boat on saturday Guy B.: Had more snow last night and guess what, more is forecast for tomorrow night Meeka: ya, they had a decent trip down rich-c: if they're on the boat I reckon they're out of the snow ;-) Guy B.: Good timing by them Pamela: I think we're on the same storm track Guy - you get it, then send it up to us Guy B.: That sounds about right Pam Meeka: no kidding rich-c: actually, Pam, yesterday and last night were two different storms Pamela: so Mom was saying rich-c: the one during the day was a snow streamer off Lake Ontari rich-c: then the wind shifted and that storm from Texas moved up onto us Pamela: we're gonna have to have a chat with Texas Meeka: lol rich-c: it's OK, later this winter we'll find a nice chill high to ship to them rich-c: just remember, between the North Pole and Texas, there's only a barbed wire fence for a windbreak rich-c: wonder vwhere our Quebecois are - our storm should be just pulling away from them now Pamela: M. Foster has been shovelling for four hours, according to his Facebook post Pamela: ah, the joys of home ownership : ) rich-c: guess they got dumped on pretty good, then! rich-c: well, he'll just have to go out and get himself a power shovel rich-c: Clive and his crew were here about lunchtime and did us and teh neighbours in about 15 minutes Pamela: I was talking to Adriana earlier - she's certainly happy that she started her mat leave when she did Pamela: and her hubby is insisting they need a snowblower rich-c: yes, these streets are no place for walking when your balance is distorted Pamela: she's in Barrie rich-c: now if you want to see some serious snow, then move to Barrie - they have prime skiing when we're bare Pamela: she certainly wasn't looking forward to driving back and forth to work on the 400 rich-c: no, around now it can be a significant challenge Pamela: FYI, Meeka and Guy, Adriana works at my old workplace Pamela: or worked - I'm not sure she's going back Pamela: after her mat leave is up Meeka: most of the time these days it makes sence to stay home rich-c: I guess it depends how life with the baby works out - some can find good caregivers, other won't accept any Pamela: just one more reason I'm glad I switched jobs - they spring us early when the weather gets bad Meeka: daycare is so bad around here that your whole check goes to cover the cost, then whats the use rich-c: babies take a lot of looking after, but some have extended family and such to help Pamela: don't forget, in Ontario you get 50 weeks of maternity leave, so by the time her leave is up, the baby will be almost a year
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Pamela: allo, Daniel Bienvenu: good evening! Pamela: Daniel Guy B.: Hi Daniel Meeka: thats way better than here Daniel Bienvenu: did I miss something important? rich-c: salut, Daniel Pamela: rien, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Pam, Meeka: you only get 8-10 weeks depending on your company around here rich-c: non - avez-vous assez de neige? Daniel Bienvenu: well, I have to ask you if you, Pam, have a Paypal account? Daniel Bienvenu: oui, il y a de la neige. ce matin, plein de neige Pamela: no Daniel, I have no need of one, why? rich-c: tu as recu notre neige d'hier Pamela: is that all, Meeka?? Meeka: yup Pamela: holy cow Meeka: thats standard for most of US rich-c: here it's set by law - is it provincial or federal. Pam? Daniel Bienvenu: Well, since I asked someone to sell my game in europe, with the help of Nico, he's got some money for me, and he's asking if he can pay me back with paypal. rich-c: that used to be the standard in Canada too but it got changed Daniel Bienvenu: And because I want to go to adamcon this year, I'm asking you if you have a paypal account to receive the money. Pamela: not for some time Dad, even before they increased it, you had 26 weeks rich-c: PayPal is very convenient, Daniel, but it has severe drawbacks - that's why I refuse to use my PayPal account Pamela: Federal or provincial, I have no idea Dad rich-c: Daniel, offer to accept an international money order - explain that PayPal costs you a commission because of the exchange rate rich-c: if you are with one of the larger banks they will even likely cash a personal cheque for you from Europe Meeka: b rb, i need a drink rich-c: he could also wire you the money but I think the sevice charge might be excessive Daniel Bienvenu: well, I think it's safer the electronic way... if the money order is lost in the mail, I lost every dollars. rich-c: do you have a bank account with one of the larger banks, Daniel? or a big Caisse? Daniel Bienvenu: I have 1 account, at the Caisses Desjardins Daniel Bienvenu: that's all rich-c: the European postal services are pretty reliable these days, Daniel - loss is very unlikely rich-c: unless he's in Bulgaria or someplace Meeka: b Pamela: Meeka, how do you find your postal service recently? Meeka: slower than snails like always rich-c: well, check with the Caisse and see how they feel about cheques drawn in Europe, in Eurps Pamela: I wondered if it was just me Meeka: nope rich-c: bewt you'll find they view it as totally routine and will happily cash it for you Meeka: thats why we bill pay most of our bills through our bank Pamela: I've sent some stuff to the US recently from Toronto, and it's taken FOREVER to arrive Daniel Bienvenu: About the annual meeting, it's still in june? Pamela: yes Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I receive no message about it rich-c: Pam, the mail I am monitoring (which is first class) is moving well - don't ask about magazines though Pamela: I haven't sent any yet Daniel, not much to say until I get the hotel straightened out Pamela: it's moving fast in Canada, Dad, but in the US it takes forever Daniel Bienvenu: approx. cost for this year? rich-c: right now Dale's mail server is down so there can't be a general mailing, Daniel Pamela: it shouldn't take four weeks for something to get to California Pamela: he's not talking about the coladam list Dad, he's talking about adamcon20news Pamela: $375 Canadian Pamela: that's what I'm aiming for Pamela: I don' t know if I'll hit the target or not, but I'm doing my darndest Daniel Bienvenu: that's approx. the money I will got from Nico. rich-c: where is Nico? Daniel Bienvenu: in France rich-c: OK, tell him to get a money order from his bank and send it to you Meeka: Pam, I finally finished redoing the adamcon photo albums on my site Meeka: only one i dont have is 18 Pamela: I have some photos to send you Meeka, and I know Neil got copies of pics from a number of people Pamela: oh, wait, I'm thinking of last year Meeka: i "stole" a bunch from Dales site but he didnt have 18 posted Pamela: 18 was Chicago and I didn't have a digital camera yet Meeka: I am sure someone did, just have to hunt them down Meeka: adam.hollowdreams.com here is what I have so far Pamela: Dale and Jillian did for sure, as did Mom and Dad, Guy, and Ron rich-c: I have one and may have taken some shots but I am having big computer problems Meeka: ya, i knew that rich rich-c: got a free replacement copy of Windows XT Monday, put in over four hours before I could get it to install Meeka: i got my first one after ac10. Doug decided I was to much of a shutterbug for anything else Meeka: been no stopping me since Pamela: I've wanted one forever, but didn't have a computer that would support one till last July rich-c: and I am pretty sure tehre are still major problems - ntBackup couldn't make a restore disc Pamela: I've been snap happy ever since rich-c: well, the firdst key is to remember the cameras don't produce pictures, they creeate digital images Meeka: its easy to do wehen you know you dont have developing costs just to see what you get rich-c: they are not expected or intended to be used like film cameras Pamela: I'm thrilled with the pics I've gotten so far Pamela: I took 60 pictures at Pamela: Adriana's baby shower and they all came out - I printed them all Meeka: they are just as good in most cases rich-c: just remember the assumption is shoot first, shoot lots, bring out the real picture with Photoshop or equivalent later Pamela: Photoshop isn't necessary if you take a good shot in the first place : ) Meeka: i very rairly have to do anything other than cropping with mine rich-c: since electrons are cheap :-), the assumption is you will take many pictures and edit them Pamela: I use all the tips you've given me over the years, Dad : ) Pamela: and I take more vertical pics than anyone I know rich-c: that's fine, Pam, but with 'shopping you can get pictures that conditions would not normally allow rich-c: wish I could say teh same about your mother, Pam ;-) rich-c: do you have Photoshop on your laptop, Pam? Pamela: nope rich-c: then get something else suitable - there re lots for free, I can tell you where
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changed username to Ronald MacBook Meeka: hi ron Guy B.: Hi Ron Ronald MacBook: Yo! rich-c: your mother rather likes Ultimate Paint from up.com, but does her light editing in Irfanview Ronald MacBook: Howz everyone? Pamela: one of the things I'm finding really handy about the digital camera is taking pics of things so Russell can see them later, such as apartments Pamela: Hi Ron Ronald MacBook: Hi Hi Hi Hi rich-c: hi Ron - cold and snowbound Ronald MacBook: not good Ronald MacBook: We actually had a day of sunshine here today rich-c: well, we got dug out well today. and should be OK for a few days more now Ronald MacBook: Heard from Mom and Dad yet Meeka? Meeka: last time was just after they got on the boat before it sailed off rich-c: yes, we had a fair bit of sunshine too, melted snow on the windshiled despite -5C temp Ronald MacBook: ah. Meeka: i think they get off agian tomorrow or friday Ronald MacBook: right rich-c: Ron, any sources you might recommend for Mac freeware? Ronald MacBook: Well now........ Daniel Bienvenu: hello Ron... do you have a paypal account? do you use it? Pamela: I'm sitting here thinking my ankles are cold! rich-c: google gives 242,000 hits but not all are to be trusted Meeka: everything is cold these days :-P Ronald MacBook: Yes Daniel, but I have not used it for more than a year. Keep getting bogus messages asking me to confirm my account details, but I don't respond Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.framasoft.net/mot17.html Daniel Bienvenu: framasoft offer links to freeware for windows and mac Ronald MacBook: I have told that company in no uncertain terms that it's hard to separate bonafide from bogus, and if I want them I'll rattle their chain rich-c: Windows I can get all sorts of things from very reliable places, but I have a buddy with a Mac Ronald MacBook: you don't need freebies with a Mac Ronald MacBook: however...... rich-c: those thins dont originate with PayPal, Ron Ronald MacBook: Yes I know that Rich. rich-c: anything legitimate from PayPay will address you by full name in the text Pamela: Daniel, why not have him do an e-transfer into your bank account? Ronald MacBook: I don't even respond to that any more. Just don't trust the process. If I initiate contact with Paypal, then it's a different matter. If my account has been frozen, so be it Ronald MacBook: what am I paying for? rich-c: well, they did apparently send out a change of terms that had to be acknowledged and agreed to rich-c: this was several months ago. but with no response they are freezing accounts Ronald MacBook: they've done that before. and I got Hell for not responding. But I told them why and that I wasn't about to change rich-c: unfortunately they won't let you run an acocunt in US dollars
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changed username to Dale Dale: Hi all. Ronald MacBook: Daniel, am I supposed to pay you something? Meeka: hi dale Pamela: Hi Dale Guy B.: Hi Dale rich-c: so they take a big whack to exchane foreign currencies (including US) into Canadian Daniel Bienvenu: hi Dale,
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changed username to Guy F. rich-c: hello Dale - Frances wants to know when you'll update the chat archives Guy F.: Bonsoir Daniel Bienvenu: Ron, I'm just trying to find a solution for a small little tiny problem I have. Dale: Hi Guy F Ronald MacBook: Hey Dale! Daniel Bienvenu: bonsoir GuyF Ronald MacBook: oh? How so? Guy F.: Hi Dale, Daniel and the rest of the crew! rich-c: hey, the Dorval Digger is here! Pamela: allo SnowGuy Meeka: hello Guy F.: Yeah, I shovelled for at least an hour today again. Been in thsi house for about 2 weeks or so and I've been doing is shovelling. I'm sick and tired. Either that, or I'm gonna get meself a nice snowblower. Guy B.: Hi Guy F Guy F.: Dorval? Nah, Laval... Guy B.: Got just as much snow as I have then, eh! Ronald MacBook: What is the nature of the small little tiny petit probleme Danlel? rich-c: with your snowfalls, I'd say get a snowblower - an electric is less risk and more reliable Guy F.: I woke up this morning, saw all the snow out of my window and said... Screw that, I'm staying home. Ronald MacBook: good for you Guy F. Guy F.: An electric just doesn't have the torque that I need... Dale: How's it going Ron? rich-c: yeah, but no alliteration comes to me for Laval... Ronald MacBook: Six computers, Dale, one brain....need I say more? Guy F.: I did get myself a lawnmower this week-end though, found a nice used lawnmower in very good shape, 4 HP, Briggs and Stratton Quattro engine. Dale: So you're keeping the computers in check. Ronald MacBook: Had to buy tires today for the Chrysler Daniel Bienvenu: Selling my game Jeepers Creepers in Europe was a success. Nico, in france, helped me to distribute it. And now, he want to conclude this by sending me the money, it's approx 350$... it's close to the cost for one person at the adamcon this year. Ronald MacBook: sheckles going out Guy F.: Daniel: Tell him to send the money via Western Union, works well in Europe to Canada. rich-c: e're trying to convince Daniel that a cheque or etransfer or bank money order will work Ronald MacBook: I see Daniel. Would be nice to have that kind of problem. I my case, I have more people demanding payment than I do sending me money Guy F.: Cheque is iffy. I've been screwed over with cheques from France actually a few years ago, wasn't able to cash it here in Canada. Pamela: that's the issue for most people : ) Guy F.: Every singel letter I get in the mail is either a bill or someone that wants money from me. Pamela: the best bet would be money order, I think Dale: I do it all by paypal from europe lately. Pamela: there you go, Daniel Guy F.: Paypal is good, but they keep a percentage. rich-c: bank money order should be OK, he's with a big Caisse, they should do it without blinking an eye Daniel Bienvenu: money order cost something too Daniel Bienvenu: nothing is free Guy F.: Make sure it's an INTERNATIONAL MONEY order. I received a money order once from the US of A and wasn't able to cash it here in Canada. Pamela: for the sender, not the receiver Dale: They only keep a percentage if it is paid by credit card. Ronald MacBook: Surely in this day and age of electronic sculdugery there is a way? Guy F.: Dan: If those are the only problems you are having right now, I have to say you are leading a fantastic life. Ronald MacBook: @Guy F. ya got that right pilgrim! rich-c: yeah, but they'll charge his exchange from Euros to US$, then from US$ to Canadian - and he won't get the best rates either Daniel Bienvenu: well, I was expecting maybe sending directly money to Pam in prevision of Adamcon. Guy F.: No, with Western Union you send it in Canadian... eitehr way he still has to have his money exchanged at least once. Dale: International money orders can be sent in Euros for sure. Guy F.: Will the Adamcon be a 3 day event this year? rich-c: Pam can accept a cheque, International MO. whatever, long as it's made out to her - she is with a big bank Pamela: I'm not set up to handl AC funds yet anyway, Daniel Ronald MacBook: Put a bag of gold in a rowboat at LeHavre, and set it adrift across the Atlantic Pamela: <note to self: get banking set up for AC> rich-c: ugh! I need a beer Dale: I think it is starting Thursday evening to Sunday evening. Dale: So that's sort of 4 days. Guy F.: Best way to carry and transprot large sums of money... Gold bars. Guy F.: 3.75 Ronald MacBook: yeah..... and rowboats Pamela: the problem is Guy, they weigh a ton! rich-c: eft is neat if you can set it up Guy F.: Gold coins too, but if you need to carry it on you, you get gold fillings. Daniel Bienvenu: Valentine's Day... well, for me it's an ordinary day, but for you? Meeka: brb, need another drink Dale: Neil didn't bother with a special bank account. Ronald MacBook: Sorry Daniel nous ne te prennons pas serieusement Meeka: dad never did erither pam Guy F.: I got my sweetheart chocolates and a card, and was then contemplating buying her one of these new DVD recorders where you can record TV on a regular DVD-RW, but... they were all sold out. Bleah. Dale: I found for AdamCon 17 that no-one wanted my checks, so it was a waste having a bank account. Dale: I paid for everything by credit card. Pamela: I have a couple of ideas on the subject but have yet to think it through Dale: So neil had everyone get cheques written to him. Dale: Saved the conference money overall I think. Daniel Bienvenu: dvd recorder... it's for both of you. :) Meeka: back Guy F.: Dan: Actually, no, I never ever watch TV. It's for her. Pamela: yes, I think that credit card will be the way to go, but it's all in the details Pamela: I want to be able to ensure that I'm accountable for everything Dale: That or debit seems to be the transaction technology of today. Ronald MacBook: Dale, just for your info, I've ordered (from Sioux Lookout no less) an ide to Compact Flash card, which I'm proposing to use as an HD for my Adam rich-c: forconvenience you may want to open a new personal account just to keep stuff separated Ronald MacBook: was only $25.00 Dale: But the largeest expense is the hotel, and they strongly prefer credit cards for most of the charges. Ronald MacBook: alls I need now is a 64 Meg Compact Flash card Pamela: I'm actually using less cash these days Dale: scour ebay is my suggestion. rich-c: do they make cards that small any more, Ron? Ronald MacBook: they had em there too, but they were asking about twice that Dale: they should have lots of 64 Meg Flash cards there. Pamela: I may not need to Dad, we already have a couple on the go Meeka: doug has one of those...compact flash hooked up as a hard drive Ronald MacBook: Oh yeah, I see. yes for the card Pamela: need to think on it some more Ronald MacBook: all they seem to have in the stores around here are 2 GB and up Meeka: he has a 128 in it, but i dont think it uses the whole thing rich-c: yes, a year ago a 512 was a really big deal, now it's subminimal Ronald MacBook: yes, they're available Rich. Trick is finding one. Think Dale might have a point....so maybe I'll use my Paypal account again after all Meeka: check on e-bay, i know he has found a bunch of diff cards there Daniel Bienvenu: I saw your message, Dale, about the homebrew game contest. Ronald MacBook: Going to Vancouver next week. Maybe I'll check there. Will be there for a week Daniel Bienvenu: what are you doing for? Ronald MacBook: BRB Daniel Bienvenu: err... Dale? any plan? a new DS or Coleco game? Daniel Bienvenu: well, maybe I lost the connection Daniel Bienvenu: testing? 1..2.. Pamela: nope rich-c: you're still on, Daniel - Dale may not be Ronald MacBook: un deux trois quattro rich-c: quatre Ronald MacBook: what's Italian for quatre rich-c: t'other one is espagnol Pamela: how's the italian coming Ron? Ronald MacBook: Not well. My attention span is about 28 seconds Ronald MacBook: Will have to keep Francesca at my elbow Meeka: lol rich-c: well, that ain't bad for an old guy Ronald MacBook: daughter-in-law Francesca Ronald MacBook: Or her mother Anna Pamela: that will be a hardship, I'm sure : ) Ronald MacBook: exactly Pamela: where are you going in Italy? Ronald MacBook: Firenze Pamela: Florence? Ronald MacBook: or, as you wish, Florence rich-c: said to be a beautiful and fascinating city Pamela: are you sure I won't fit in your suitcase? Ronald MacBook: well..... since I'm a museum freak....it'll probably have some things to offer rich-c: that's pretty nice wine country up there, too Pamela: the - uh - Bargello is in Florence, isn't it? Ronald MacBook: believe I've read that , yes Meeka: just dont go into anywhere they sit you down and shut off the light LOL, ;-) Pamela: ah if they do, the worst that will happen is he'll catch a nap : ) Ronald MacBook: articles I've covered to date about Florence say, don't look rich, don't look like a tourist, and don't carry a handbag etc etc Ronald MacBook: there are skilled pickpockets, operating in packs rich-c: well, you might have a problem with the tourist look part Meeka: i was teasing cuz the last time ron was here we went to the museum and we all fell asleep wathcing the show about the stars Ronald MacBook: like... yeah... Pamela: I know Ronald MacBook: Oh....that....yes... Meeka....how could I forget rich-c: Dale, are you still weith us? Meeka: not sure Ronald MacBook: poor hosts....... Bob and Judy and Doug and Meeka..... taking me to the planetarium, and there I fell asleep. (not polite) Meeka: was kinda funny that we all did the same thing Daniel Bienvenu: I will have to leave now. thank you for your advice. and talk to you next week. rich-c: well actually some skilled pickpockets got at the ventilation system... Ronald MacBook: but you guys (quite rightly) didn't admit to that until you'd rode me suitably about it Meeka: well, in our defense, we did a lot that day Pamela: <note to self 2: make sure to schedule sleep into the con schedule> rich-c: OK Daniel, a la prochaine Ronald MacBook: true... t'was a busy and interesting day Pamela: goodnight Daniel Meeka: meijer gardens, ford museum, gr museum/planetarium Ronald MacBook: Nite Daniel. Regle ton 'tit probleme eh? Meeka: call is "siesta" time Pam, sounds more adult Meeka: LOL Pamela: Meijer Gardens - we've been there, have we not Dad? Ronald MacBook: Really enjoyed Gerry Ford's museum Guy F.: I'm off as well, have to sleep. Work tomorrow and then more work when I come back, have to finish painting the kids room, install a ligh fixture, start the kitchen, ARGH, so much work!!! Daniel Bienvenu: <note to self : did I influence all the note to self tonite? Pamela: works for me, Meeka Daniel Bienvenu: *poof* Ronald MacBook: But I shoulda warned you. I always fall asleep after lunch rich-c: no, Meijer Gardens is up towards teh top of Grand Rapids -we didn't get there
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Daniel Bienvenu left chat session rich-c: take care then Guy, lots of luck with the recorder rich-c: see you next week Ronald MacBook: Nite Guy. Sleep horizontal Pamela: someone should tell Guy he doesn't have to do it all in the first month Ronald MacBook: right Pamela: although in his defence, the kitchen does need updating pretty badly from the pics I've seen rich-c: have to find a way to solve Daniel's problem, too Ronald MacBook: Don't think I've ever met a kitchen that didn't need updating Pamela: its a gorgeous house Meeka: i still happy with mine and its 8 years old Ron rich-c: about twice ours, at half the price, right, Pam? Ronald MacBook: Oh my.... well yes, as I recall, a large and spacious kitchen it was too Meeka: yes, it is plenty spacious Pamela: it's newer Dad, I don't know about size, but re price, I think you're right Meeka: three or four can comfortab;y workin there Ronald MacBook: indeed they could Pamela: colour me jealous, Meeka (says she from her galley kitchen) Meeka: ya, had a few of those in apartments Pamela: however, we may have found a new place with far more kitchen space Meeka: cool Ronald MacBook: Mine (rented) doesn't have enough drawer space..... or maybe I have too much stuff rich-c: you have a lead on a new one, Pam? Meeka: lol, there is never enough storage room rich-c: just don't ask to borrow the truck too soon - I haven't bought this year's gas yet Ronald MacBook: nope..... and stuff expands to fill the space available Meeka: if you have more room then you just have more stuff so it still doesnt fit Pamela: yes, went to see it on Saturday and it's quite nice - on Mimico Ave, about half way between Lakeshore and Royal York. Literally five minutes from Russell's office Ronald MacBook: that's the law of "Stuff" Pamela: nope, this time around it's movers for us Dad Pamela: ya got that right Ron rich-c: at least it's convenient- a very mized area down there Meeka: ya, we cant ever move agian because of it Pamela: I'm hoping that we'll be able to weed out some of our stuff rich-c: we know that feeling, Meeka! Ronald MacBook: indeed Pamela: some of our stuff never got unpacked after the last move in 1997 Meeka: we filled a three bedroom-two story house with items from a two bedroom apartment. rich-c: does that tell you something? Meeka: I cant imagine what we would need now to fit it all Pamela: yeah - we need more space : ) ! Ronald MacBook: I have several unpacked boxes here too..... been here 3 years in June Meeka: i dont have any of those anymore Ronald MacBook: I have no idea what's even in 'em Meeka: but did when we were hopping apartments every year or two rich-c: computers Ronald MacBook: yes Meeka, then you throw stuff out to make room for new stuff Pamela: I know what's in ours Meeka: but you cant throw it out....might need it someday Pamela: some of it's knick knacks that I never got around to putting up Ronald MacBook: like I have 5 ADAMs and associated gear that I've sworn in blood not to dispose of with out reference to you guys Pamela: most of it belongs to himself Ronald MacBook: that's right Meeka. the moment you throw it out, then you need it Pamela: I'm getting to the point that if we haven't needed it in 11 years, we don't need it at all Meeka: its a never ending cycle Pamela: but some of it is sentimental - like the afghan that Grammy made for my bed Ronald MacBook: But really, I like stuff Ronald MacBook: Ya have to have some stuff around rich-c: that's the problem isn't it, Ron - stuff is so NEAT Ronald MacBook: yes it is Ronald MacBook: I have nobody here to urge me to get rid of my stuff rich-c: a perilous situation Ronald MacBook: I did once, but I got rid of her instead.....or she got rid of me, can't quite recall which Dale: Daniel, did you see that info about the pdroms.de competition with prizes for a ColecoVision game? Pamela: and stuffedness is apparently inherited : ) Dale: Wait. Daniel is gone. Dale: I'll catch up eventually. :-P rich-c: Daniel left some time ago, Dale Ronald MacBook: yes Pamela, we have proof Ronald MacBook: s'ok Dale rich-c: Dale, any idea when teh chat archive will be updated? Dale: Tha'ts okay, Daniel answered my question while I was called away. Ronald MacBook: still waiting for my Adam Lotto program to win rich-c: yoiu too, huh? Ronald MacBook: it is in development Meeka: well gang, bandit is bugging to go outside so thats my clue its time to go Dale: I've just got to practice that in-order conversation stuff. Ronald MacBook: then I can buy a bigger house, and have room for more stuff Dale: First I ask the question then he responds then I respond to him. rich-c: OK Meeka, you were here early too, so see you next week rich-c: good night and take care Ronald MacBook: Yes...Bandit must be seen to Ronald MacBook: Niters Meeka Dale: Instead of he answers, and asks me a question then he leaves then I ask the question he responded to... Pamela: nite Meeka Meeka: nighty noght Dale: By Meeka.
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Guy B. left chat session Dale: If you give up on me, I can always supply the list of who is on the old list at any time. Ronald MacBook: aka "Drop What you're doing" rich-c: I know what you mean - I'm wondering whether to precipitate my weekly XP crash tomorrow or wait for the weekend Ronald MacBook: ROTFL Rich! Ronald MacBook: that good eh? Dale: XP decided to reboot on me today for security reasons. I lost my place for sure. Pamela: LOl Pamela: Dad rich-c: unfortunately it's the truth, Ron - MS even sent me a free replacement installation disc to see if that's the problem Pamela: never do today what you can put off till tomorrow, Dad : ) Ronald MacBook: My Vista Box is in the bad books this week. It's turned off, contemplating its future Ronald MacBook: and was it Rich? Pamela: what's wrong with it, Ron? rich-c: since 18 months of trying have yet to make XP work, i'm not about to buy something even worse Ronald MacBook: or do you know yet? Ronald MacBook: slowing down, the mouse stops unpredictably, and it's just generally P'ing me off rich-c: no, I sent a backup log to Beijing, so maybe they can find a clue Ronald MacBook: Getting a little weary of the "Cancel or Allow" schtick Pamela: once a Mac person . . . Ronald MacBook: suppose Mr. Gates is trying to protect me from myself, but really rich-c: oh, mine is BSOD followed by a crash that won't even let me boot into safe mode Ronald MacBook: exactly Pam rich-c: I think Mr.gates wants us to be Linux persons, Ron Ronald MacBook: the mid week I get a panic e-mail from sister Stephanie over in Bali saying that she can't get her HP laptop to start because it keeps asking for a password - she's never used a password Ronald MacBook: but then, she's still XP I think Ronald MacBook: that one I referred to my son-guru Jeff rich-c: tell her to hit return Ronald MacBook: didn't work Rich. It thinks it's been given a password. Pamela: well gentlemen, I will leave you to discuss Mr. Gates foibles - I'm going to bed rich-c: though god knows how HP sets up a computer - they all have their weird ideas Dale: Ohhh...that password when there wasn't a password problem is annoying. rich-c: Acer is scared spitless you might actuallly get in and find out what's going on Ronald MacBook: sorta figure there ought to be an HP call centre within hailing distance over there Ronald MacBook: right Rich.... I know that from experience Dale: There is a recovery disk that you can download and boot into to repair the two login files. Ronald MacBook: you've heard of it before Dale? Dale: It means that one somehow got corrupted. rich-c: OK night Pam - keep us posted on the apartment search and Con Dale: And if they're out of sync, they'll ask you that. Ronald MacBook: ok...that would explain it Pamela: I will, probably in the next couple of days Pamela: re the apartment, at least Ronald MacBook: unfortunately she didn't take her startup/recovery disk with her Pamela: good night Dale and Ron Ronald MacBook: otherwise she might have tried reboot that way <NOTE TO SELF for ITALY....TAKE DAMN DISKS> Ronald MacBook: nite Pam Pamela: good night Daddy rich-c: no Ron, take backups of damn discs rich-c: nite Pamela Ronald MacBook: yes Rich...thank you for that important correction Dale: Well, search around a bit on google, but the problem has happened to some computer that I maintained. Ronald MacBook: you're quite right of course Pamela: kerpoof
Pamela left chat session Ronald MacBook: Yes, Jeff's been doing that. I just delegated and disappeared. rich-c: yes, Dale, but unlike us peasants, you know what you're doing rich-c: hell, the Adam still baffles me - and don't get me started on CP/M Ronald MacBook: been my experience that no matter what kind of problem I have, there is somebody out there who has also had it as some time or other rich-c: oh, there is never any shortage of problems where computers are concerned Dale: I've certainly had a wide variety of problems on the maybe 50 or 60 desktop/laptops that I have at various times maintained. Ronald MacBook: you've no doubt seen it all rich-c: hell no, he hasn't even seen the tip of the iceberg Ronald MacBook: All I tell my friends around here (octogenarians mostly)...is I'll come and have a look, but if it's over my head, I'll tell you what you need to describe to the professionals Dale: Now if only I could convince my freind in Florida that check disk is safe to do on his computer. rich-c: hey, I could give him a lifetime supply of problems off my one computer Ronald MacBook: he don't want to try that? rich-c: want to bet even that won't find a way to give him problems? Dale: Richard, the thing I don't understand is why your problems seem to linger. I usually solve my problems in just a few days one way or another. Dale: I'm jsut glad that you don't have car problems that are like that. :-) rich-c: all I have to do to generate a tota; crash is allow the weekly downloads Ronald MacBook: some nights I just go back to DOS. Have an old 386 here, and it's only reason for life is that it has a 5-1/4 inch drive which I use to ship Adam stuff back and forth Ronald MacBook: Windows 3.1.1 - some nights it's a refreshingly more simple world rich-c: well, Dale, even Microsoft hasn't been able to solve them in 18 months - and that rich-c: 's with full data and logs Ronald MacBook: Think Microsoft has lost touch with its core Ronald MacBook: and that touch was always rather tenuous Ronald MacBook: now it seems to be non-existant rich-c: I can't get my scanner softwre to install (HP) and a number of other things Ronald MacBook: tried an older driver Rich? rich-c: nope, it's the one HP sent and worked on when I couldn't get it going. They gave me another which worked on the laptop Ronald MacBook: hmm rich-c: but don't forget a year ago today I was rushed to hospotal and away from computers for three months Ronald MacBook: that will certainly have an effect rich-c: help desks dont like it when you abandon them for three months then suddenly reappear Ronald MacBook: confusing for them rich-c: oh yes, just bought Acronis, and it won't make a backup Ronald MacBook: I have yet to get satisfaction out of a help desk Ronald MacBook: don't try them much Ronald MacBook: maybe that's the problem rich-c: their so-called support tells me is my memory, it's my hard disc, it's my USB port, it's everything but their product rich-c: I have stuff I would hate to lose but I may yet - again - reinstall XP on a clean install Ronald MacBook: well actually, a bad memory stick will look like all sorts of problems. My Acer had all sorts of problems over the Chicago trip, and for months after.... turned out to be just that..... one of my 512 Geg memory cards was bad Ronald MacBook: it's fine now rich-c: and of course hope it doesn't fiddle with the partitions so I don't lose D and E as well Ronald MacBook: you've got an Acer right? rich-c: well, my memory is checked every time I turn on and it comes up OK on the POST check Ronald MacBook: yeah, it would show there I believe rich-c: my laptop is an Acer, yes - gradually deteriorating but still working rich-c: also I can't fiddle with the innards of the desktop because I can't lift it till I get my hernia fixed Ronald MacBook: I used to think I knew something about these beasts, but more and more these days I rely on son Jeff -- a real port in a storm Ronald MacBook: no that's right.... one wrong move and you're going to pay rich-c: well, I can't even try, it is too painful Ronald MacBook: and these days, any "fiddling" I do is restricted to making sure cards are properly seated, and cables are firmly attached rich-c: and in any case an emergency abulance run with a strangulated hernia is no picnic Ronald MacBook: no, I suppose not rich-c: well I hope to put in two one-gig memory stacks (take out the old) adn put in about a 250 gig hard disc rich-c: but first I want the damn thing working Ronald MacBook: should give the beast new life Ronald MacBook: memory is so cheap these days Ronald MacBook: I'm still running one GB on the Vista box, maybe that's what's ailing it Ronald MacBook: Anyway Rich, I think I'm going to call it a night rich-c: I can't get a new one because the new motherboards won't support 98SE (actually ME) or anything ewrlier Ronald MacBook: yep.... and Microsoft won't support either rich-c: something about being set for the dual core chips means they cant handle legacy stuff Ronald MacBook: true rich-c: anyway agreed - bedtime so see you next week Ronald MacBook: By the way, I'm away in Vancouver next WEd.... will hopefully be able to sign on from Jeff's place, but if I don't it'll be because we're out doing something else rich-c: OK - maybe I can tell Jeff my troubles! Ronald MacBook: right.... we'll put him to work Ronald MacBook: nite Rich, nite Dale rich-c: nite Ron and Dale Ronald MacBook: poooofff!!!
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