Meeka: hello rich-c: hi Meeka, how are you tonight? Meeka: ok I guess rich-c: I'm a minute or two late because I had to reinstall XP again and hadn't picked up Java yet rich-c: you sound a little dubious about your health - problems static? Meeka: sounds fun :-P
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changed username to BobS BobS: OK kids.......I am HERE Meeka: hi dad rich-c: well, the basic re-installation hung three time and cost me over four hours 8-( BobS: hows the weather in CA ?? BobS: hi meeka rich-c: greetings Bob BobS: you blew up another computer install ? Meeka: ok rich, just tired
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changed username to Guy B. Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Meeka: hi rich-c: hello Guy, made it on time tonight! BobS: YO BRO !!!!!! rich-c: just telling Meeka, even on a clean install it took four runs to get it on, and then it's pretty unstable Guy B.: Had to wrap up some dishes, feed Annie and I'm on two PC's again. More LP recording BobS: clean install of what? XP? rich-c: well, since an LP will run for 30 minutes, you should have lots of time for chat rich-c: yes, formatted the partition and went in from ground zero, so to speak BobS: WHACK that sucka
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changed username to Remav Meeka: i just let doug handle that, much easier LOL rich-c: I wsant one of those shirts that says "Defenestrate Windows" Remav: Wow... Adam lives! Hi All (Robert Miller) rich-c: we have a new handle - who might that be? Guy the second, perhaps? Guy B.: I've burned 11 albums already and have a whole lot to go Meeka: hello Guy B.: to CD that is Guy B.: HI Meeka rich-c: ah, Robert - I guess the word is welcome back - it's been a long time Remav: Yes, thought I was not going to be able to attend tonight... Java kept erroring on me. BobS: Hi robert.....glad ya stopped by mon rich-c: earlier on, the server was balking on the latest Java, but Dale got that fixed sdeveral weeks ago BobS: meet Robert Miller, designer of the ADAMCON 11 logo and ADAM efficienado BobS: correct????? Remav: thanks... Spoke with my boss about combining AC20 & some work. I think it's going to work out. Remav: hehehe... yea, real big time adam legend huh? rich-c: I just had to install the latest Java about ten minutess ago, and here I am! BobS: AND if I remember from that era, you were running LOGO messaging over the hotel tv's.................... Remav: Nope not me. I didn't bring one to AC4. rich-c: Bob, the motel manager was from Rhode Island, not New Jersey BobS: well tha would be great if you can make the convention this year BobS: not Joursey????????? BobS: bummer rich-c: you're from down across the river from Philadelphia, aren't you, Rob? Remav: I used to be from Bethlehem, PA when I went to the User's group meetings. DelVal I think
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changed username to Dale Dale: Hi all. rich-c: up on the Saucon river - not that long, but a bit of a drive down Dale: Just checking that the server is up okay. Meeka: hello rich-c: hello Dale, welcome aboard Dale: brb Guy B.: HI Dale rich-c: and I can tell you the chat works the the absolutely latest Java RTE BobS: hi Dale BobS: yup working great tonight Remav: I had a virtual machine running & after I shut it down I was able to get on. BobS: and Richard would KNOW, he just keeps reinstalling until his puter works rich-c: well, if it won't work or respond to anything else, not much choice, is there?
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changed username to Pamela Guy B.: Hi Pam Pamela: hi everyone Meeka: hi pam rich-c: if I'm going to get an up to date computer I will have to learn to run a virtual machine rich-c: hello daughter Pamela: sorry I'm late, I was talking to Kimberly rich-c: oh yes, she just lost her uncle, didn't she BobS: morning Pam Pamela: yes, she called to tell me Pamela: I gather you saw the obit? Pamela: Hi, Bob rich-c: we spotted it in the paper and I planned to send you an email - did I? BobS: got Robert on here and he WANTSW to come to the convention this year.................give him the TALK Remav: So who ran the Deleware Valley User's group? I cant remember anything any more.
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changed username to Judy Guy B.: HI Judy Pamela: no you didn't rich-c: hello Judy Judy: Hello, Everyone Pamela: Hi Judy Meeka: hi mom rich-c: no, wasn't he in upstate New York, not far from Amsterdam? Remav: I remember herman online, but dont think it was his house we went to. rich-c: I remember DVAUG had about two or three very long-term users, tight knit group BobS: then I am lost Robert Pamela: hello, Robert rich-c: Robert designed the logo for AC11, Pam Remav: I'm sure I have it in my big stack of Adam Stuff. I'll have to dig (or in my case "climb") Remav: Hi Pam rich-c: are you still in Bethlemhem or have you moved, Rob? Remav: No, I got banished to NJ in '00. rich-c: where are you in NJ, then? Meeka: hey mom, guess what new toy I got this week Remav: The freeway filled up. Back when I was online with you guys it was a 45 min commute. Remav: When I gave up & moved it was about 1.5hrs. Judy: what did you get? Judy: another new computer? rich-c: so you're still in the Delaware Water Gap area, or downstream? Meeka: LOL, nope, it does have a hard drive in it though rich-c: TiVo, Meeka? Meeka: no, had that for several years already Meeka: its a new camcorder Remav: Yes, about the same distance as when I was in PA. Judy: ohhhh Meeka: its bairly bigger than my digital camera rich-c: oh, they are just being introduced here Judy: a little one/ Remav: Mendham, NJ near Morristown. Judy: you will have to take it Sunday Meeka: they are great rich, we dont have to watch all those comercials rich-c: OK, I'm a New Jersey native, but that was far over half a century ago that I left Meeka: ya, we will
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(goes to fetch his beer) Guy B.: Hi Guy F GuyDoune: Greetings everyone. Meeka: if I leave it on the low setting I can get 37 hours of recordings on it before it "fills up" Judy: Hi, Guy Meeka: hi guy Remav: OH rats... I thought I was going to be supplied a beer, not have to go get one! GuyDoune: Did someone get a DVR? Pamela: Hi Guy BobS: hI GUY GuyDoune: Beer, good idea, let me go get one for myself... Meeka: no, a new HDD camcorder BobS: snow stopped in Montreal yet????????? Remav: I got a TiVo GuyDoune: Ahhh, cool toy, wish I had one. BobS: I got a vcr !!!!! dows taht count ???? Meeka: just bought it this week so still trying to figure it all out Meeka: lol dad Remav: sure it counts! Remav: I had my Laserdisc player repaired this year. rich-c: now that is yestertech! GuyDoune: I bought a Pioneer DVR a few weeks ago... lots of fun. Meeka: we love our tivo's rich-c: my vcr player busted a few months back - now have a vcr/dvd player combo Remav: I find it's quite the time-zapper though. Pamela: we need to get ourselves a PVR Remav: woot.com had a blowout on the TiVo HD a few weeks ago. I couldn't resist. GuyDoune: My Pioneer PVR is awesome... although it's lacking a few things like automatic DVD ripping, playing movies off of USB, but it has many redeeming qualities. rich-c: I jusy don't watch tv enough to make anything fancy worth the expense Meeka: ya, but its nice that stuff records for you and you dont have to worry about missing things Remav: I added a 750 GB drive last week. Just under 1 TB total now. GuyDoune: exactly and it can skip commercials for ya, so more tv watching in the same amount of time.... and you can then burn it onto DVD which is a plus for archival. rich-c: I can't fathom where you folks get all the time for these things Meeka: its called multi-tasking Remav: Been trying to figure out how to save things off of mine. What interface do you use for DVD burning Guy? Meeka: I watch tv, chat with you guys and am cross stitching right now as we speak GuyDoune: Remav: The DVR actually burns theshows and episodes I ask it to automatically. Remav: Oh, it's built in, it just doenst do it automatically, right? Judy: I was knitting, and watching TV Pamela: okay - opinions - DVR or PVR? BobS: am sitting here looking at tv and chatting........ = multitasking, yes?????? Meeka: for a man...yes it does Judy: Meeka, that is dad BobS: HREY HE Remav: My idea of multi-tasking is doing anything ...with a beer. rich-c: what is PVR? BobS: taht too GuyDoune: Remav: Yes, it's built in, it saves it to the hard drive first and then I can edit out the commercials and save it to DVD, very simple interface... also has a firewire port, so i can connect my mini dv camera to it and archive my video on DVD-RAM (or any other type of media) Meeka: ya, your point :-P GuyDoune: Personal Video Recorder? Pamela: personal video recorder - hard drive rather than burn to DVD BobS: pvr = brain richard Meeka: we have both Pam BobS: low tech at that GuyDoune: I have both hard drive and DVD burning, but I think it's called a DVR. Judy: we get the hand Dale: back Pamela: HI Dale Meeka: we have tivo's that have harddrives in the to reocrd off the dish...then we have a dvr to make our dvd's with .... and a tivo server in the basement to store movies on Pamela: didn't see you there Pamela: quick question Remav: Wish I could take the best features out of the MS Media Center PC, TiVo, & the FiOS DVR that I gave up for TiVo... They all have things they do better than the others. Meeka: yup rich-c: are you telling me to wait to buy till they perfect them? 8-) Pamela: Dale, sent you an e-mail a couple weeks ago re: t-shirts but never heard back Meeka: doug hacked our tivo's fo they are all networked together Pamela: do you still have a contact for t-shirts? Dale: Well, I was talking to some DVD experts from HP a while back, and they point out that the perfect DVD player seems to change every 6 months. Remav: they'll never perfect them dale. (they're not like the ADAM where they got things right the 1st try! LOL!) rich-c: I find tht painfully credible, Dale Dale: So I guess consumer electronics lives on the "there's always something better around the corner -- enjoy what you have now" theory. rich-c: you remember what Zonker told us SONY stands for
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(A dog howls in the distance) BobM: hehehe... 2 Bobs are better than one! BobM: chatroom spelunking (sp?) I guess you'd call it. rich-c: well, we have a couple of Guys, too - though they pronounce it differently rich-c: trouble is, click on an item and the screen tattles on you Pamela: couple Riches as well when Dr. D shows up rich-c: yes, he seems to be boycotting us Pamela: no, I think Wednesdays are just really busy days for him recently BobM: I gotta hand it to you guys. 15 years ago if we had 9 users chatting it was a HUGE night! rich-c: well he also has an alarming tendency to burn the candle at both ends, too BobS: heck sometimes we have like 15 or so Dale: I think logging the archives helps. Especially when they updated automatically. rich-c: well essentially you have the Slopsema family, the Clees, and a couple of individuals Dale: I really have to devote some time automate that again tomorrow. BobM: I guess this whole Internet fad may catch on afterall, huh? BobS: thought maybe Jean Stone would pop in.......had to forward her the chat link again, her kids upgraded her computer and she lost it rich-c: well, it's a little early to tell you, Bob BobS: tell me ?????? rich-c: sorry - tell yet, BobM rich-c: why would Jean want her computer upgraded, anyway? BobS: naw, the internet is here to stay !!!!!! Al Gore said so !!!!!! BobS: think Jean's kids just did it and she followed meekly along BobM: hehehe... Work is paying for a certificate course in IT Mgt. One of this semester's classes is "Programming the Internet" rich-c: have to tread carefully - the new boards and chips won't run any Windows earlier than XP rich-c: and they are even a little shaky on that BobM: Just throw a virtual machine at the problem Rich. Meeka: mom, doug says to tell ya he passed those two microsft exams BobS: that's good for him, she says rich-c: that's what my IT buddies keep telling me, BobM Judy: good for him Pamela: Dale, did you catch my question? Meeka: lol, good for me anyway, he waited till the last possible minute to take then Judy: so does that mean more money for him? Meeka: and he is grumpy when he has to study Meeka: not that I know rich-c: I actually have a couple of VM programs in my Downloads file - the one outside the crash zone Judy: that figures BobM: I made the mistake of loading up 64 bit XP & none of my class software can use it. Virtual PC saved me a HUGE rebuild... easy too. Dale: Looking at the history Meeka: they were jsut to upgrade his MCSE from 200 to 2003 Dale: You weren't quick enough,,,checking... Judy: he never did like to study Meeka: 2000 to 2003** Meeka: ya, and lord help you if you make ANY kind of noise while he is either Dale: The embroidered t-shirts were done at a local place in Whitby which my brother deals with. Pamela: do you have a contact number? rich-c: I'm thinking in terms of running legacy programs, like earlier Windows and the Emulator - which is a VM itself sort of Judy: ya, he always needed his own room Dale: If you look in the yellow pages are are dozens of those embrodery shops around. Dale: They are quiite common place. Dale: When pricing it, you have to ask lots of questions. Also there is usually an artwork setup fee to convert your art into a sewing pattern. rich-c: new computers are ridiculously cheap these days, but I have nothing to do on one Meeka: well he has graduated...now he wants the whole floor. I got grumbled at for putting dishes away once when he was studing rich-c: the computer I have is grossly excessive to my needs Dale: I think the AdamCon 17 shirts were $18 each with a setup fee of $50 or $75. Something like that. Dale: Traditionally I have sold them for $12 to $15 each. But with the low volumes, I guess we should really put the price up to the approx $20 or so that it costs.
(goes to fetch his beer) Pamela: I'm looking for a t-shirt supplier only at this point, I have another idea for the artwork Judy: sorry!!!
(goes to fetch his beer) Dale: I don't think I priced silk screening recently, but I think that with AdamCon 12, I found that silk screening and embroidery are about the same price, and the embroidered shirts are surely nicer. Meeka: lol, not your fault Meeka: i know people study differently Dale: At least with less than about 25 shirts. Meeka: I always had to have the radio or something on when I did so its weird to me that he wants scilence Dale: For AdamCon 12, I bought the tshirts only at a wholesale place near my work at the time, in the Finch Downsview industrial park. Dale: I think it is the second left north of finch, and was on the left about two blocks from there. BobM: Well, I pull the early shift these days (Which is one reason I have not been on in such a long time.) So I'll have to say good night all... rich-c: BobM, what are your feelings on beer and wine? Pamela: do you by any chance remember the name? Judy: gets that from me, I need quite BobM: I guess I'll be needing to get "the talk" about AC20, cause it looks like I'll be there. Dale: But I just don't remember a name. They could custom order any size, any color with about two weeks lead time. And the shirts were good quality for $7 each as I recall. Pamela: Bob, if you're interested in the convention information, send me an e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org - I'll add you to the list BobM: Rich... everything in moderation. incl. sobriety! Pamela: that's what I need Dale BobS: go STRAIGHT home now BobM rich-c: OK - you need to know AC20 is in the heart of world-famous wine country - and the beer's good too Pamela: second left north of finch off dufferin? rich-c: sweet dr4eams! Dale: Looking on mapquest.ca it reveals that it would have been on Martin Ross (or maybe Supertest) to the East of Alness at the time. BobM: Just sent the email Pamela. thx rich-c: OK does Google show the businesses on those streets yet? Pamela: thank you, Bob BobM: Rich, I used to be a big fan of Pino Nior until that movie "sideways" ran the prices up! hehehe rich-c: our best ice ral icewine, but there's some fabulous Reislings around, too Pamela: I can work with that, Dale BobM: Night All <poof> <<<haven't typed that one in years!!! Sounds good Rich! rich-c: sorry - is real
BobM left chat session Pamela: T-shirt wholesaler? Dale: I really don't remember the name of the place. But mapquest suggests that Eagle Sportswear is on the street that I said 416-650-5144 Dale: 313 Supertest Road. Pamela: okay, they're one of the places I looked at I think. I have noted it down. Thanks, that's perfect. Dale: There are probably 5 or more places in the specific neighbourhood. rich-c: maybe you can get up there Saturday, Pam - though if they're wholesalers they may run 9 - 5 hours Pamela: I'll have to call rich-c: and there's always the mob of schmetta shops on Orfus Road Dale: They have a pretty good website, but no hours listed: http://eaglecanada.com rich-c: got a buddy who makes t-shirts, but he's in North Carolina and is wholesale only - like he has a mill Pamela: not a huge help here, Papa : ) rich-c: I had a suspicion that might be the case ; - ) Pamela: thanks tons, Dale - I will investigate tomorrow Pamela: Guy, you were going to send me a pic of your banner rich-c: Dale, I am having problems understanding how an exclusively 64-bit environment can produce a 32-bit or 16-bit virtual machine BobS: got any news for us on ADAMCON Pam ??? rich-c: among other things, don't you have to load the VM OS somewhere? adn what if it's 16 or 32 bit? Pamela: I'm working on the forms for signup Bob rich-c: what information do you need, Bob, so Pam can be sure to include it? BobS: everything !!!! rich-c: that's really not a great help - can you be a bit more specific? BobS: June 18-20 ??????? BobS: Thurs eve is what date...? Pamela: June 19 - 22nd, Quality Inn Parkway Hotel, St. Catharines, Ontario rich-c: 19-22 I think but Pam can tell Pamela: Thursday evening is the 19th Guy B.: I haven't had a chance to get it out and take a photo yet. BobS: ok got to turn it in for the time off Pamela: don't forget, please Guy B.: It's in my closet with the rest of the computer gear. I'll get that to you soon Pamela: Meeka, you have pics of all the other banners on your website. Do you have .pdf's of all of them? Meeka: no, they are all jpegs Pamela: sorry that's what I meant Meeka: ya, I have all but 18 I think Pamela: I would love it if you could send me e-mails of them Meeka: I can prob do that Meeka: I just finished re-designing that sight so the pics are all sorted properly now Judy: how are you doing on your picture work, meeka? Meeka: adam sight is finished as it gets until I get photos for 18 from someone Meeka: the personal one is pretty much complete Judy: I am impressed Meeka: just have to light a bonfire under your some to get the SSL running so I can realse the site Meeka: ty Pamela: perhaps we can talk Guy into sending the AC18 banner to you and I at the same time : ) Meeka: theres a thought, then I at least would have one picture in that album Meeka: the adam one was pretty easy, the basic structure was already there, just had to reformat it Meeka: the personal one took longer as I started from sccratch Pamela: Unfortunately we didn't get the digital camera until last year Meeka: lol Pamela: I'm not sure I have pics from AC18 - must remember to check that Meeka: I did a bunch of scanning of pictures sent to me by various people for the old conventions BobS: whats the convention pic listed under Meeka: www.adam.hollowdreams.com BobS: got it Guy B.: I'll be right back. I have to quit the chat in order for me to install a new version of OpenOffice Meeka: k
Guy B. left chat session Pamela: boy we're a quiet bunch all of a sudden rich-c: I can't tell right now but I may have some Adamcon pis on the other computer - remind me rich-c: yes, our otehr Guy hasn't said a word for hours Meeka: lol Pamela: brb folks rich-c: anyhow, is spring starting to show over in western Michigan? BobS: find themrichard BobS: may havew some jmore here also Meeka: its trying BobS: spring is springing....yesterday sucked with cold and blowing, but today was better as the sun resurfaced and got to almost 50* rich-c: well, until I get this stupid desktop sorted, sending is moot Meeka: ya, doug says there were a couple on one of the silde reals we went through the last time, but I havent double checked that yet rich-c: we were lucky to see #C - about 38F rich-c: 3C BobS: warmthj is coming your way rich-c: I can't clip or save stuff at the moment and don't have my utilities to hand - much still to go in rebuilding the drive BobS: good thing you are retired Richard, you now have the time Pamela: sorry about that, small domestic crisis rich-c: just looking, I do have photos from last year's Adamcon Pamela: do you have any from 18 Dad? rich-c: with Windows, time demands will always outweigh time available Meeka: I was talking to my mom about pictures the other day, she says both my grandparents already had their slides converted, so I begging them for copies :-P rich-c: don't know Pam, can't check those right now Meeka: ya, i got some of last years from dales site Meeka: he just doesnt have 18 up there rich-c: meeka, you don't have any bandwidth issues, do you, if I send a bunch of photos? rich-c: and where would I send them? Meeka: nope, we have dsl and we are our own e-mail provider rich-c: that suggests a pretty high degree of flexibility BobS: well kids, got to work tomorrow swo got to head for the sack Meeka: yes well, you know Doug right ? LOL rich-c: yep, that time, Bob - take care then Meeka: night dad BobS: Judy got thrown out, so she is ready for the sack, looking at Meeka's pics of Miejer Gardens BobS: nite all, and see ya's next week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 BobS: POOF rich-c: your email, meeka? Pamela: goodnight Bob and Judy
BobS left chat session rich-c: nite Bob and Judy Meeka: mslopsema at hollowdreams.com Meeka: remove the spaces and replace the @ rich-c: OK I will try to remember rich-c: yes, have to leave out the @ when you're on a public chat rich-c: otherwise teh 'bots will get you and spam you to death Meeka: yup Meeka: and i get enough of that already Pamela: don't we all rich-c: anyhow guess it's the witching hour for me, too Pamela: I guess that I had better hit the road too, since I have some stuff to do before bedtime Meeka: ya, I should be off too rich-c: so I shall bid everyone goodnight and see you next week Pamela: morning comes waaaay too early Pamela: goodnight Meeka Pamela: Goodnight Dale Pamela: Goodnight Guy Pamela: Goodnight, Daddy rich-c: goodnight, Pam rich-c: and goodnight, all Pamela: will call soon rich-c: colour me gone Pamela: kerpoof
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