Meeka: hello faniel Meeka: daniel** Daniel Bienvenu: hello meeka Daniel Bienvenu: too soon to chat I guess. be right back then. Meeka: k Daniel Bienvenu: is there a football match tonight? Meeka: dont know, i dont follow sports that much
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changed username to rich-c rich-c: salut, Daniel! Daniel Bienvenu: salut rich Meeka: hello rich Daniel Bienvenu: ca va. rich-c: hi meeka
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changed username to Pamela rich-c: hi daughter Daniel Bienvenu: hi pam Pamela: what crowd? LOL Pamela: bonjour Daniel Meeka: hi pam Pamela: Hi Da Pamela: d Pamela: Hi Meeka rich-c: we're working on it Pamela: contributing where I can : ) rich-c: scored a minor victory today Pamela: oh? rich-c: phoned Star Chice and canceled my supplementary channels Pamela: which means what exactly? rich-c: then pushed and asked if there was anything cheaper than the basic package I have rich-c: turns out there is - about half the price Pamela: and? Pamela: ah! rich-c: so now it's down to around $20 a month from around $50 Pamela: and what does that consist of? rich-c: pretty well anything likely to interest me - still haven't downloaded the list from them rich-c: but I'll have the local Canadian and American channels and TSN, and beyond that, who cares? Pamela: well that depends when you ask me Pamela: during the summer I pretty much give up watching TV Pamela: however during the winter . . . Pamela: different story altogether rich-c: oh, over last winter I suspended servi ce entirely from Grey Cup to Daytona 500 Meeka: i will be glued to it for the olympics :-P Pamela: do you watch any sports in particular, Meeka? rich-c: if I find the Olympics intruding, I'll turn it off Meeka: gymnastics, swilmming, beach volleyball, diving Daniel Bienvenu: here, in Quebec city, since yesterday, it's festival again. rich-c: now that's fun, Daniel! where are you doing your eating and drinking? Pamela: I find the only coverage I turn away from is the basket ball, weight lifting, wrestling, boxing etc Pamela: I'll watch almost anything else Meeka: exactly pam :-) Pamela: I like the rowing too Daniel Bienvenu: I hope it will have a nice sun coming out soon to make the festival even more interesting. Pamela: I particularly like the gymnastics, rhythmic, trampoline, swimming, diving etc rich-c: naw, they need to have a Dragon Boat class ;-)
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changed username to Guy F. Pamela: greetings Guy Daniel Bienvenu: you should know about his festival since I talked about it at least one time. Daniel Bienvenu: http://www.nouvellefrance.qc.ca/en Meeka: hello guy rich-c: which events do you plan to attend, Daniel? Guy F.: hi rich-c: greetings Guy Guy F.: just dropped in to say hi, but won't be able to stay long.... Pamela: are you still off work, Meeka? Pamela: pourquoi pas? Meeka: yup rich-c: oh, we have stories in our newspapers, Daniel, and I suspect some on tv too (I never watch so can't tell) Daniel Bienvenu: you are talking about the olympics... well, the opening and closing may be more interesting the the rest because I don't think it will be a good olympic event. rich-c: i'd rather hear what you are doing for Festival, Daniel Pamela: I hope they re-run the opening ceremonies in prime time - they start live at 7:00 am on Friday Guy F.: not interested in how fast and strong human beings on steroids can be... Pamela: and I'll be soaking my head at that point Meeka: i think they are playing it on fri night pam Guy F.: Thanks Pam, I'll set my DVR to record them. Pamela: hope so : ) Daniel Bienvenu: well, I will take pictures and films if there is a sun. Guy F.: going to the olympics Dan? Pamela: on CBC I believe, Guy rich-c: don't look on TSN, there are doubleheader football games Thursday and Friday Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not going to the olympic, it's "fetes de la nouvelle france" this week Guy F.: I'll go with CBC, thanks Pam for the advice. Pamela: who is carrying it in the US, Meeka? Meeka: nbc i believe Daniel Bienvenu: friday, it's 2008-08-08 Meeka: yup, that it is Pamela: oui Daniel, it's supposed to be a very lucky number Daniel Bienvenu: lotoquebec think it's a lucky number too rich-c: if you're Chinese Pamela: Daniel: oh? Guy F.: I predict some terrorist events during these olympics. Pamela: I hope not Guy Daniel Bienvenu: no terror, maybe a manifestation rich-c: I am sure there will be a number of tries, Guy, but I doubt they'll come to much Daniel Bienvenu: they already tried to "kill the flame" if I can say this. Guy F.: weren't 15 police officers in China killed a few days ago in terrorist attack? Pamela: yes, but in a province on the other side of the country from Beijing Pamela: and it's a big country rich-c: maybe so, maybe no - Ghina is a big and secretive place and what happens and why is rarely clear Guy F.: Which is why, perhaps they will take advantage of all the eyes watching Beijing to be heard and seen. Pamela: many groups are using the torch relay as an opportunity to get their pet causes televised, especially Free Tibet Guy F.: Free China! rich-c: there are discontented minorites who will be happy to let the central authority lose face Pamela: that too, Guy Guy F.: Their bigger problem I think these days is getting rid of those nasty clouds overheard beijing. rich-c: they think they can do it - I am less sanguine Pamela: Russell had a "well there's your problem" moment the other day regarding the pollution in China Pamela: in China, they think that an AQI of 100 is good Pamela: here, an AQI of 30 is "moderate" Pamela: 50 is poor rich-c: did it ever occur to you, Pamela, that our index might have an element of extremism in it? Guy F.: Extermism is good.... makes my children breath better. Pamela: I don't think there's such a thing on the scale as "absolutely unbreathable" rich-c: an AQI is not absolute - if it gets so low there's no political mileage to be made, they change the definition Pamela: have you seen the pictures of the air in Beijing? I think we'd both be unable to handle it with our lung troubles Daniel Bienvenu: being at the margin, makes things evolve... but I don't think extremism is good. rich-c: again - they use high magification telephotot lenses which introduce wild exaggeration - even so, it's bad rich-c: you can guess teh magnification if you've used telephotos much - and the Chinese pictures aren't that high magnification Daniel Bienvenu: what I mean is if we are not all the same, things evolve... but extremism is nothing but pain. rich-c: I'm talking more political extremism, Daniel, but your comment is still valid rich-c: Meeka, your folks are up to Traverse City this week, right? Meeka: yes they are Daniel Bienvenu: I hate politic talking... specially with friends... I prefer talking about bbq, video games and festivals. Meeka: hopefully they not geting our weather Meeka: we got a big thunderstorm tonight rich-c: you're having weatehr problems, Meeka? Daniel Bienvenu: it's raining here. Pamela: talking politics can be interesting - but you have to have an open mind rich-c: oh, we had a beaut yesterday afternoon - and a lightning strike two lots over other side of the street Pamela: rain to the west, rain to the east - but clear, 23 and 50% humidity here : ) rich-c: Frances was half asleep at the time - she woke up in a hurry Pamela: I think you're getting yesterdays weather, Daniel Pamela: and Meeka, you're getting tomorrow's Pamela: what time, Dad? Meeka: nope, we got todays weather pam Pamela: LOL rich-c: yes, air masses move about 1000 km in 24 hours, I think rich-c: I was still on the laptop so it was early afternoon - maybe 3.30 or so? Pamela: hmm, wasn't raining downtown at that point Pamela: I did get very wet feet going home though rich-c: no, the rain was very spotty - downpour one minute, completely stopped the next Pamela: what is it about rainstorms that they wait until 4:59 before the heavens open??? rich-c: it's a law of nature - the only way to change it is for everyone to change quitting time rich-c: even then it will adjust in a week Pamela: and if everyone worked until 4:00, the rain would start at 3:59 rich-c: you catch on quick Pamela: it got really really dark about 4:55, started to rain shortly thereafter and was still coming down in buckets when I left at 5:20 Daniel Bienvenu: I need sun to take good pictures during the festival here. Pamela: waited until 5:30 to see if it would slack off, then bit the bullet and walked to the station rich-c: yes - I can say our rain forest appreciates it Pamela: what a pain - I was juggling my purse, lunch bag, a plastic bag, my sweater and my umbrella rich-c: depends on what you are taking pictures of, Daniel - general city views are best in full sun Pamela: nothing stayed dry rich-c: but wait till dark when the lights are on and take some shots from Levis Pamela: and of course I chose yesterday to wear sandals : ) rich-c: there are significant advantages to being retired Pamela: let me just say: ppbbbbtttt! Daniel Bienvenu: I want to take pictures of people, because they wear costumes like in the beginning of the colony. rich-c: Daniel, learn how to use your lens length adjustment and flash and there will be some dynamite photos after dark rich-c: wander down to the View Carre - I suspect it will be pretty livelt (maybe too much so?) rich-c: what kind of camera will you be using, Daniel? Pamela: Vieux Carre, Dad rich-c: sorry, you know my keyboard can't spell - obvious vieux is something I know all about Daniel Bienvenu: the same camera I bring at the adamcon. I took pictures of butterflies with it. Pamela: I must say I love my digital camera rich-c: I didnt see it, except that it seemed to be some brand of digital Meeka: they are wonderfull inventions rich-c: so make sure you start off with fully charged batteries and have another set in your pocket Daniel Bienvenu: remember, it's a panasonic dmc-fz9. Pamela: just the freedom to take as many pics as I can squeeze onto my card without having to worry about running out of film is a huge bonus Pamela: yes, and I need to get better batteries Pamela: or more of them rich-c: Panasonic - zoom lens, then; what is the "equivalent" focal range? Meeka: yea, after our trip to disney before ac10 I was almost forbidden to use nirmal cameras :-P Meeka: lets just say i am a bit of a shutterbug Pamela: gee Meeka, I would never have guessed that : ) Pamela: didn't you say you had something like 19 rolls of film after that trip? Meeka: thats good to know rich-c: well, film and digital camera both have their advantages, Meeka - but digital is much more flexible, if lower quality Meeka: no, only ten rolls in two days Pamela: oh well then, hardly any at all : ) Meeka: its just as good depends on the resolution rich Pamela: I have now taken enough pics to use up my 1 gig thumb drive Pamela: time to get another : ) Pamela: oh and rich-c: there is no digital mechanism in existence, Meeka, that can match the resolutioo film can achieve Pamela: Dad, did you see that Future shop was offering a 16 gig Kingston thumb drive for something like $50.00? rich-c: the issue is can teh digital get sufficiently close to the limits of your eye that it doesn't matter Meeka: most professionals are using the digital now rich-c: no, but I am not surprised - memory is getting cheaper by teh minute Pamela: pleased, am I : ) rich-c: still, I'd suggest burning it to a cd, and erasing teh thumb drive and starting again Pamela: why? Daniel Bienvenu: we lost guy Meeka: well, laptop is getting warm, see ya all next week
Meeka left chat session Pamela: gnite Meeka rich-c: a cd can take anything up to about 10 gigbytes which is more than enough, and only costs about 30 cents Pamela: but it's not as portable rich-c: you can still play it in any laptop - and a cd really is plenty portable Pamela: have you seen the size of my purse??? Pamela: I've got a year's worth of pics on my thumb drive and it take up about one square inch of my purse Pamela: I'll stick with my thumb drive, thanks rich-c: how big is your thumb drive? Pamela: I have three 1 gig thumb drives, one specifically for pics Pamela: finally filled up the first one recently rich-c: time to do some editing and deleting, if you have filled up a one gig thumb drive Pamela: pardon me, I still have 23.3 MB open rich-c: I still haven't come close to filling the 512mb CF memory card in mine Pamela: the whole point is to keep my pics on it Dad Pamela: it's a backup to the computer and I can carry all of them with me rich-c: but there is no point in keeping pics that aren't worth having - I will likely delete 75% of mine rich-c: you listening to all this, Daniel? Pamela: I wonder where everyone is? Pamela: actually, I know - Bob and Judy, Pamela: Dale and Jillian are camping rich-c: well, Meeka said her laptop was overheating so she logged out - don't know where Guy went Daniel Bienvenu: well, I'm still there Pamela: Rich is either here or has just left for home Pamela: no Mr. Bona yet Pamela: no Ron, but not a surprise Daniel Bienvenu: are you sure there is no football? rich-c: you should be joining the argument, Daniel - we all have things to learn Pamela: no CFL tonite Pamela: NFL, dunno rich-c: there are two games tomorrow at 7 p.m. and two Friday at 7.30 rich-c: the NFL won't start for months Pamela: who plays who when and where, Dad? rich-c: the Argo game is first, in Hamilton Pamela: just so I can tell Russell - he'll be impressed that I know : ) Daniel Bienvenu: I personally don't like throwing things, specially some papers and pictures from the past. I know if I throw them in the garbage can, I will not find them after. I actually did a little clean up in my stuff, and I did take diffcult decisions about what to keep and what to not keep. rich-c: but I'm not sure about the otehr - Calgary at Saskatchewan, maybe? return half of the home and home? Pamela: hmm, will have to check the website Daniel Bienvenu: But, for the pictures I took with my digital cameras, I already did lost tons of pictures. rich-c: yes, the big advantage of digital is that you can take a dozen shots of the same subject figuring one will be good (or better) rich-c: off to get my beer - brb Daniel Bienvenu: not always easy to take a decision. Pamela: the other thing I like is the ability to take short movie clips Pamela: you're right Daniel, which is why I keep most of mine even though they may not be the best shots Daniel Bienvenu: specially when it's time to do a clean up of a tons of pictures almost all the same, but you also know that you will not take pictures like those anymore. Pamela: the AC pics are like that - unless you can tell who's presenting, they're all pretty much the same of everyone sitting around staring at the projection screen rich-c: yes, you have to check each one carefully before you toss it Daniel Bienvenu: even a blury picture is almost the only thing you keep from the past, and you are happy to have it even if it's not the best picture. rich-c: depends, Daniel, how many more and better you have of the same subject Pamela: I got a very good short movie clip of Kimberly dancing with Christopher at Wonderland, Dad Pamela: great blackmail material : ) rich-c: I haven't figured out how to take movies yet - not that I think it matters Pamela: does your camera have the capability? rich-c: I haven't really even had time to read the directions, which are not well written rich-c: I think it likely does - I think my cellphone does, too Pamela: the problem with the cellphone camera is, you have to e-mail the pics to yourself - you can't just download them with a USB cable Pamela: and of course, e-mailing them costs $$$$ rich-c: exactly and I have no idea how long it takes or how much it costs - remember I'm on a minimum contract Daniel Bienvenu: well, sometimes, a blury picture of a scene, of a moment, is all you have. and beside that, in the same day, you have tons of great pictures of things that finaly doesn't matter. Pamela: I wish I could keep my instruction book with me but the camera case is too small rich-c: that can well be how it works out, Daniel - the really important stuff gets messed up rich-c: that's why I say burn them to a disc; it's so cheap you can afford to store the junk too Daniel Bienvenu: actually, the pictures are too big to fit in a cd, too big to fit in a dvd too. I need 3 dvd double-layer for them. rich-c: even a single layer dvd is 4.7 gig now - it would take half your life to fill it and still cost 30 cents rich-c: how big is a single picture, Daniel? and what file format are you using? Daniel Bienvenu: well, you may probably remember that the entire set of pictures + little movie clips from the adamcon this year was more than a cd Daniel Bienvenu: and it's only this one single event rich-c: well are you using a huge resolution and bmp format or something?
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changed username to Guy B. Pamela: well hello Guy Guy B.: Here I Am Finally. Had DSL problems rich-c: hello Guy, you are very late tonight - whaddup? Guy B.: Overtime, take care of Annie and dinner rich-c: yeah, those things can snowball on you, can't they? Daniel Bienvenu: well, I prefer to keep my pictures as is. I try to not modify them, to keep them original. rich-c: oh you always keep them original - but if there is a better picture in there, you can bring it out - it's very easy Guy B.: Guess you guys heard about the severe weather we had Monday night rich-c: we've been seeing a bit of that ourselves - had a lightning strike just across the street last afternoon Pamela: I heard something about a tornado watch shutting down the baseball game Pamela: any damage in your neighbourhood? Guy B.: Wrigley Field was evacuated. No tornado, but the sirens went off Guy B.: Broken branches, that's about it rich-c: when the probabilities pass a certain point, you get out - whether a tornado appears or not Guy B.: Bolingbrook and Bloomingdale had tornadoes touched down in those two areas rich-c: had one of my cursor cronis in Kansas had a tornado rip right through his yard Guy B.: Annie and I just made it back before the storm hit Guy B.: It got really dark though rich-c: bashed up his car a bit, flipped his neighbour's truck with the neighbour in it - guy lost his arm Pamela: ouch rich-c: he posted pictures of the damage - mainly proves what you need is luck Guy B.: Power flickered 4 times, but did not go out. The storms blew up on my way home on the train rich-c: so you just get off at your station and wait for it to blow over? Guy B.: No, the storms were approaching when I was walking the day just before 8 PM Pamela: how do you get to and from the El, Guy? Do you drive? Guy B.: And I think the humidity made her a little sick, but she's fine now Guy B.: I drive to the parking lot Pamela: so how far from the train to the car? rich-c: do you take the El, Guy, or one of the Commuter lines? Guy B.: The L, Blue then transfer to the Purple line rich-c: how is it for crowding when you travel? Daniel Bienvenu: well, it's getting late... goodnight Rich, Pam and Guy. I still have coleco things to do and I hope to have at least one great sunny day during the festival. rich-c: very best on the weather, Daniel - a la prochaine! Pamela: goodnight Daniel, have fun at the festival. Can't wait to see the pics - good luck with them! Guy B.: It's fine in the morning, but on the way home. Purple gets crowded and sometimes on the Blue, but trains there are running more frequently Guy B.: Nite Daniel Pamela: I've pretty much given up on the TTC Pamela: too crowded, too many people with no manners Daniel Bienvenu: last week. I was at the restaurant with Dale... we talked about coleco minigames and the possibilities for a new cartridge project. Daniel Bienvenu: it was fun to see Dale, Jillian and Jeffrey outside adamcon. Guy B.: Tonight on the Blue, it wasn't very crowded and that's because another train was ahead of the one I was on rich-c: you guys are really getting on, aren't you? Pamela: did they say hello for me as I asked? Daniel Bienvenu: goodnight and talk to you next week rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit!
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changed username to LucMiron Pamela: hi Luc LucMiron: Hello! rich-c: eh Luc! tu es en retard - Daniel vien de partir Daniel Bienvenu: I was leaving the chat for tonight, luc Pamela: vous etes en retard ce soir : ) LucMiron: Has Guy Foster been here? Pamela: yes, been and gone Daniel Bienvenu: you miss him... about one hour ago LucMiron: Okay, no big deal. Thanks Pam. Guy B.: Well, even though I got on late. Annie and I will be calling it the night. Will try to get on earlier rich-c: oui, but only for a short while Pamela: pas de probleme : ) LucMiron: So Daniel, before you go, did you have a look at the document I gave you today? Pamela: you're going Guy? Guy B.: Yep, see you all next week Pamela: goodnight, take care rich-c: night, Guiy LucMiron: Bye Guy Daniel Bienvenu: yes, I did give a look. there still a lot to do. should be faster to find an older version of the document and add the new parts in it. Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session Daniel Bienvenu: well, at least, you make it as your vision LucMiron: Well, I did rewrite a lot of the document... LucMiron: Was I over the top? I can never tell. :P Pamela: I think it's time for me to go too Pamela: hopefully have time to chat with my hubby for a few minutes before bed Daniel Bienvenu: you are like many other coleco programmers here, you are a perfectionist. take your time and enjoy coleco programming. LucMiron: I have to go too. I still have four packages to tape together (Opcode game orders). LucMiron: ... and it's already WAY late. :) Pamela: ya got that right Pamela: goodnight, Luc and Daniel Pamela: Goodnight, Daddy rich-c: yes, way late it is. I'm also planning to pack it in. LucMiron: Bye guys! Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit Pam Daniel Bienvenu: bonne nuit rich rich-c: goodnight, Pamela
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