rich-c: test rich-c: hello, undefined, are you there?
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changed username to BobS BobS: YO richard rich-c: hi Bob rich-c: sorry, I had the cursor delsewhere BobS: how are you and " rich-c: man, that makes you feel dumb! BobS: Frances doing this fine night???? BobS: don't care where the cursor is as long as you are here rich-c: oh, we're fine, such Christmas things as need doing have been done BobS: yup, we are ready for Christmas and almost ready for our trip rich-c: how about ylu two? rich-c: you're leaving day after New Year's, right? BobS: day after Christmas BobS: SATURDAYT rich-c: you driving or something? BobS: 'yup rich-c: your cruise is the 2d to 18th, isn't it? BobS: takng motorhome for a week long cruise and then take A cruise rich-c: wait a minute that's 16 days - 2d to 16thy? rich-c: where do you get teh ship, Ft. Lauderdale? Miami? BobS: plan is to be in Nashville Tennessee Sat night to visit the Christmas decorations and lights at the Opryland hotel, then haed on down ot Florida and warmth BobS: shi;p on the 3rd of Jan.....and again on the 10th os Jan rich-c: we could use a lil' old dab of warmth here this week BobS: gonna rain on Friday........ rich-c: uh - are you on two cruises back to back? BobS: then back to light snow chance on Sat BobS: yes sir rich-c: one with each set of parents, or something?
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changed username to Judy BobS: second won eiwth Doug and Meeka rich-c: nothing like living it up! Judy: Hi, Rich BobS: alone first cruise, then w/ Doug & Meeka rich-c: and if I sdon't believe it, all I need to do is see your waistline Jan. 18th, right? BobS: nope, gonnna LOSE weight rich-c: have Doug and Meeka gone with you before? BobS: ya think??????? Judy: no, I will keep him walking and that keeps the weight downn rich-c: I have to walk every day and it isn't helping my weight at all Judy: it is a big ship and the only way around it is to walk it rich-c: at least it won't have an icy wind blowing straight in your face! BobS: we'll go out walking.............or die tryin' BobS: no kidding, we can walk to our hearts content Judy: and you have to use the stairs as much as you can rather than the elevator BobS: just check Ft Lauderdale Fl weather..........70's daytime and 50's nights rich-c: and the more you walk, the more content your heart is, right? BobS: and we arte goin south Judy: hopefully BobS: yup BobS: walking is GOOD exercise
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changed username to Merry Christmas BobS: HI MERRY Merry Christmas: hello rich-c: with me, it helps control the edema in my legs BobS: hows Quebec?????? Judy: hello, Merry BobS: or is it Chicago Merry Christmas: neither BobS: ok, MOntreal Merry Christmas: nope BobS: gotta hit is soon rich-c: Clevweland? BobS: Japan Merry Christmas: try agian rich-c: soggy Vancouver Island Judy: the island Merry Christmas: nope rich-c: Grand Rapids? Merry Christmas: yup lol rich-c: hi Meeka, looking forward to the cruise? Judy: meeka that you?
Merry Christmas changed username to Meeka Meeka: yes, we are, and the week in fl also Judy: are you all tired out? Meeka: not to bad Judy: Ryan was rich-c: what have you been doing, Meeka? Meeka: lol, kept him busy all day, he should have been Meeka: babysat Ryan today Judy: and half of yesterday rich-c: that's a job and a half, I hear 8 - ) Meeka: some days rich-c: so how are you folks organizing your Christmas? Judy: Christmas eve at Sherri's and opening presents BobS: fun time and presents tomorrow eve, then Christmas D&M and Mandy & Ryan come over to work onpacking the motorhome Judy: Christmas here with Doug and Meeka and Amanda and Ryan rich-c: and Mom gets all the work ; - ) BobS: then up early on Sat and HEAD OUT Judy: they don't know it yet but they are helping us finish up the packing Meeka: nope, not all the work, we bring some of the food and we are old enought to clean up after ourselves Judy: that is for sure rich-c: just keep your eye on the weather reports you're mostly on the plains to Nashville, aern't you? BobS: looks like the weather will be ok, especially once we get south of the lake ind into Indiana
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changed username to LucMiron BobS: hi Luc Judy: as long as this storm that is heading our way tomorrow is gone we should be good to go Meeka: hello rich-c: salut, Luc, et joyeux noel Judy: hi, Luc LucMiron: You better watch out, you better not cry, 'cause LucMiron's in the house! :) LucMiron: Hi guys! BobS: cute man, cute rich-c: so how are you keeping, Luc? Judy: we are under another storm watch again BobS: ready ofr Christmas???????? BobS: for LucMiron: I've been meaning to drop by here for the last two months, but I always ended up missing it. BobS: 8 days until a new year also BobS: 'well welcome to the right time then rich-c: for Christmas, we are supposed to get snow changing to freezing rain changing to rain BobS: we get that tomorrow LucMiron: We'll be getting nice weather in Montreal, from what I've heard. Judy: and then turn to snow rich-c: well, Pam has four-wheel drive on her Escape, and lives on a bus route so gets cleared early Judy: lucky you Judy: what are your plans for Christmas? LucMiron: Hey, want to see the boxes and cart labels for two of my upcoming ColecoVision homebrew games? rich-c: Pam and with any luck Russell will join us for dinner BobS: yes rich-c: you going to send us scans on the Adam mailing list? BobS: or give us the pic location? LucMiron: Xmas plans = me and my mom eating supper at a friend's house. We've been doing that every year since my father passed away. BobS: cool BobS: a tradition
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: yes, it does not do to be alone at Christmas Guy B.: Greetings from Icy Chicago Meeka: hi guy rich-c: hello Guy BobS: hey Guy, yougot YUCKY weather in Chicago, no???????? Judy: hi, Guy LucMiron: Anyway, here's the link to the pics: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/155232-team-pixelboy-news-bulletin-december-20th-2009/page__pid__1904023__st__0&#entry1904023 rich-c: oh, you the culprit who's been shipping all that freezing wind up here? Guy B.: Oh yes. Snow, sleet and ice from the freezing rain. Tomorrow that will change to all rain Guy B.: My car has a sheet of ice on it LucMiron: Sound like you got a sheety deal... ;) Judy: bummer rich-c: we have done our shopping so do not expect to mpve the van again till next Wednesday LucMiron: Okay, bad pun. Guy B.: At least I'm off both tomorrow and Friday Judy: sounds like a good plan, Rich rich-c: we keep having power outages - I'll have to see when the block heater is actually coming on Judy: that doesn Judy: t sound good, Rich rich-c: no, three in teh afternoon isn't when I need it BobS: looks COOL Luc LucMiron: Thanks. :) rich-c: Luc, you should put it out on the list, that way your customers will see it LucMiron: "the list"? BobS: even though it is not ready.................FREE ADVERTISING rich-c: the Adam mailing list - don't you get it? LucMiron: I do not believe so. :) rich-c: talk to Dale Wick about it - maybe he wil;l be on later tonight LucMiron: This reminds me, has anyone here heard from Guy Foster about next year's Adamcon in Montreal? BobS: noe rich-c: Daniel can clue you in, he posts constantly, but Dale runs it rich-c: well Dale and Dakel insist it's the week after the Grand Prix BobS: OR you can go here........... http://www.adamcon.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coladam BobS: and then sing up for the ADAM list BobS: sign rich-c: we get the feeling Dale looks at that about once a quarter, but ask online and it's instant response LucMiron: The hills are alive, with the sound of muuuuusic... rich-c: but of course you have to catch him first LucMiron: Oh, sign, okay. ;P rich-c: yes, we have cheap keyboards that can't spell worth spit BobS: methinks it is the fingers LucMiron: So you have cheap fingers that can't spell worth spit. BobS: could be......... rich-c: Bob will have to speak for himself on that LucMiron: LOL BobS: maybe we need to work on getting BETTER fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LucMiron: I'll try to find a good surgeon for you. BobS: now, these games..........are they ColecoVision versions of a Sega gaeem?????? rich-c: you have to remember, Luc, in the US surgeons COST LucMiron: I bought myself a Christmas present yesterday: A new flatbed scanner. Guy B.: I must have hit the jackpot with eBay today. I sold some new inkjet cartridges today. And I had a bidding war going for them rich-c: why would anyone be bidding up inkjet cartridges? LucMiron: @BobS: Yeah, they are both ports of SG-1000 games. BobS: meaning whole new programming???? or just adjusted prgoramming? Guy B.: Don't ask me why. I acquired 8 (2 black and 6 color), brand new from a friend of mine LucMiron: The original ROMs were dissasembled, studied, and fixed up to work on the ColecoVision. rich-c: what printer? Judy: well good for you, Guy Guy B.: HP 800 and 900 series printers BobS: cool, do you have to make a deal with Sega to do this and pay a royalty?? rich-c: but those are easy to get refills for dirt cheap LucMiron: @BobS: I will answer that question only in the presence of my lawyer. ;) BobS: ok as long as you aren't like a certain Texan we know who just swipes anything that touches his hands BobS: :-) rich-c: Prudence rules, and in this scenario she's a tought old bird Guy B.: brb LucMiron: A certain Texan? BobS: ADAM'S House rich-c: names not mentioned in polite company BobS: not a technical legally firm nature LucMiron: Oh, well, I'm only selling copies of these games at cost, I'm not making any profit from sales. LucMiron: I'm just doing it to get new CV games in the hands of CV fans. rich-c: doesn't matter, look what just happened to Microsoft when they "borrowed" some cose from Toronto rich-c: code BobS: I think if you can do that and put more games into Coleco useage, GREAT LucMiron: Well, if Sega has a problem with my endeavour, I'll cease and desist, but I'll be surprised if they do. rich-c: you may be in for a shock - after all Atari are in and out of classic games, and I'll bet pretty protective rich-c: who has the rights for Colecovision these days? LucMiron: We're talking about pretty old games here, on a mostly forgotten japanese system, ported to another american system that's over 25 years old. rich-c: buying and suing over patents is a billion dollar business in teh U.s. - ask Blackberry LucMiron: Last I heard, the ColecoVision trademark was owned by River West Brands, but they didn't do anything with it. BobS: ColecoVision games........good question.........Mattel had some, Telegames had some but have let them go it seems LucMiron: I'd say it's mostly a grey area today... BobS: if you can get games into CV use without raising problems, go for it LucMiron: Of course, some arcade-related names are still owned by companies, like Mr Do, and of course Donkey Kong. rich-c: you just don't want someone coming out of teh blue and demanding every cent you made, plus triple damages rich-c: yeah, mess with Donkey Kong and you're toast BobS: that is the biggest problem I would think, that some company owns the name rights rich-c: you're almost certyainly right, Bob, code is notoriously hard to prove rich-c: that's apparently why it took 141 so long to collect from Microsoft BobS: who's 141? LucMiron: I'll be lucky if I sell 100 copies of any game I make for the CV, and as I said, I'm not making any profit from it. Seems like companies like Sega would pay more to their lawyers than they would get out of suing me. Meeka: well folks, i am off to go crawl in bed and watch a movie. Have a merry christmas rich-c: Merry Christmas to you too, Meeka, and to Doug too BobS: okmeeka see you tomorrow LucMiron: Merry Xmas Meeka! Judy: night Meeka see you tomorrow
Meeka left chat session rich-c: i4i is a small Toronto outfit that developed XL code that Microsoft pirated for Word or Excel or something LucMiron: Not a smart move on MS's part... rich-c: they sued and got a judgment for hundreds of millions, upheld by teh Supreme Court yesterday rich-c: yeah, it seems pretty basic to XML apparently, and they can't do without it BobS: from what I always heard, Micrsoft was always good at 'borrowing' code, etc rich-c: they should have simply licenced it in the first place. or just bought i4i Guy B.: Ok back. Got $43 for the inkjet carts LucMiron: Oops, I just remembered that I need to wash the dishes before I go to bed, so as it's already pretty late, I shall need to take my leave of you fine people. :) rich-c: ever since MS-DOS showed such interesting similarities to CP/M BobS: ok Luc, have a FINE Christmas !!!!!! Guy B.: Bye Luc. Merry Christmas rich-c: Luc, joyeuxnoel et hereuc nouvelle annee rich-c: joyeux noel / hereux Judy: night Luc and have a Merry Christmas BobS: yup Richard rich-c: this time it was farn dingers, just lubricated them
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changed username to PEV BobS: course, it is hard to prove theft of an idea when it is out for public consumption............and if you change some stuff or improve on other things..... Guy B.: HI Pam BobS: hi Pam rich-c: hi daughter Judy: hello, Pam PEV: Ho, Ho, Ho . . . ly smokes I'm tired PEV: Hi everyone rich-c: hard day, Pam? BobS: that is why Coleco was so fusy about releasing code for the ADAM, and in the end it almost killed ADAM Judy: what you been doing? PEV: not really, just seemed like it Guy B.: Tomorrow, I'll be wrapping gifts and baking before I head for my cousin's house rich-c: Guy, the $43 was for the full lot of eight? PEV: running around for the most part Guy B.: Yes Judy: you ready for Christmas? PEV: <snort> not so much rich-c: OK, no bargain for the buyer, but not outrageous either
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changed username to Daniel rich-c: what's the word with Russell today? does he get off? PEV: I still have all the presents to wrap, none of the ornaments are on the tree, the house is still a mess Daniel: I know... I'm late Judy: hi, Daniel PEV: yeah, he's off Daniel: bonsoir tout le monde! PEV: Hi Daniel Guy B.: Well, at least I sold 1 out of the 5 items I listed this month rich-c: salut, Daniel Guy B.: Hi Daniel LucMiron: Hi Daniel. Nice of you to drop in just as I'm leaving! :D PEV: and I seem to have misplaced my ambition Judy: ooops, not good Daniel: Well, preparing stuff for tomorrow night... PEV: oh, and I have to tackle Mt. Laundry at some point Daniel: so I was unavailable rich-c: good, can you get over here in time for us to have a really serious beer together? PEV: Hi Luc, I didn't see you there Daniel: was unable to be online sooner LucMiron: Hi Pam. :) Daniel: Bonsoir Luc, comment avance tes projets? LucMiron: As-tu vu les boîtes de Girl's Garden et Gulkave sur AtariAge? PEV: I don't know what our ETA is right now Dad, I'll have a better idea tomorrow Daniel: Hello Bob, thanks again for the dsk files... I'm having a problem to record footage but I'm working on it rich-c: OK, teh LCBO just got a very special one in so we made a trip today and got some samples Daniel: err... I don't think I've seen these boxes yet Daniel: I was not quite active lately on forums PEV: how are your preparations going, Judy? LucMiron: @Daniel: Another piece of interesting news is that I got Bruce Tomlin on board to work on the test program for the 64K bankswitching system and EEPROM I/O for my PCB project! That's a major advancement, I'd say. :) Daniel: i did notice that the voting pack for the 4k minigames is already available and nobody's mention it rich-c: speaking of which, time for my chat beer now - brb Daniel: I need a multicart pcb to release compilations of all my Coleco games PEV: and are you hosting this year? Daniel: Micheal Flemming, in Germany, does have a pcb for this, but need money to produce them LucMiron: @Daniel: I'm not sure if my PCB could help you out, but if it can, it would be great if we could develop a way to make games in C for it. BobS: Judy is goofing off right now, but we are READY Pam PEV: oh good, care to pop into Toronto for a day and help out? : ) BobS: daughter Christams eve, us Christams day rich-c: they are more concerned with packing for the cruises LucMiron: @Daniel: It's mostly a question of designing a way to compile C code with bankswitching included. BobS: Judy BACK Judy: was not was just wrapping up my baking Daniel: to not confuse me, let's say "mega game" when we talk about a game in cartridge using bankswitching to get more than 32K of ROM. Super games are the games in tapes... and the 32K or less are regular Coleco games. PEV: I left the baking to Mom : ) rich-c: note to Luc and Daniel: Dieu de ciel! P'eche' Mortel is a very nice beer PEV: someday I really need to get organized LucMiron: I never touch alcohol. :) rich-c: she has teh puddings made, Pam PEV: oh good Daniel: You should say that to GuyF... I don't know this beer rich-c: the real issue is whetehr the turkey will thaw in time Judy: i was working in the kitchen all afternoon so I am almost done just have to bake a pie tomorrow but the crust is made already Daniel: I'm not a fan of beer in fact BobS: POWER thaw it PEV: you have another 36 hours Dad, should be fine Judy: I decided today I want a pecan pie for Christmas day PEV: ours is coming along nicely now that we've turned down the fridge rich-c: I used not to like beer, but with teh specialty stouts I found something that appealed to me LucMiron: @Daniel: Anyhow, if you want, I can keep you informed of the developments with my PCB project. At a certain point, Bruce Tomlin will code some routines that will validate Batari's PCB design, and these routines will be reuseable for real CV games. rich-c: Dieu de ciel is a quite new craft brewer in teh Montreal area PEV: how much work is that Judy? Judy: not much is easy pie to make rich-c: Frances is threatening to put our turkey out on the front porch to thaw PEV: Russell likes pecan pie but I'm not a big fan BobS: crust......pecans.......eat BobS: me neither Pam Judy: that sure wouldn't work here, Rich Daniel: If I understand well, the new pcb you guys are planning to do is using a ram space to execute a code to switch the entire 32K bank and then continue the program like if nothing happend ... and by doing that you "access" to mirrored ram space simply as indicator for bankswitching... I a way, it's how a multicart works, except that the bank newly swicthed is executed by a soft reset (call $0000). PEV: interestingly Bob, I often find them too sweet BobS: sink of cold water and let the turkey float in it Judy: so he will have mincemeat rich-c: you're porch is below freezing? ours is JUST above PEV: now THAT I'm a fan of PEV: the difference between an open and enclosed porch Dad BobS: yea lady Judy: that is why you can't have a big piece or eat it tooo often BobS: Doug likes it too Daniel: So I guess I can use your pcb for multicart purpose, not only for bigger games. rich-c: our fridge is about a quarter degree above freezing - it is very cold LucMiron: @Daniel: I'm not really sure I understand all of Batari's technobabble, but yeah, that's about it. Actually, it will work a lot like Opcode Game's MegaCart, in the sense that the first 16K of ROM will be fixed, anf the other 16K ROM will be assignable to one of three banks. Judy: that I don't like and Ryan has tried it because grandpa likes it but just can't eat it PEV: I've got mince tarts - single serving size : ) PEV: interestingly Dad, the thermometer in the bottom of our fridge insists it's minus 5 PEV: but the turkey is thawing Daniel: err... but I've read that the full 32K bank will be switched instead of only 16K... it's not true? Judy: but to buy the filling cost more than buying the whole pie, go figure LucMiron: @Daniel: But from what Batari told me the other day, it will also be possible to have all 32K bankswitched. LucMiron: @Daniel: Both options will be available, apparently. PEV: really? How much is a jar of mincemeat? rich-c: depends on quality, doesn't it? good stu8ff being very pricey? LucMiron: I think I'll ask Batari for clarifications about that. Perhaps the PDL programming is slightly different in one case compared to the other. LucMiron: PDL = PLD Daniel: swicthing the entire 32K will be easier then for C programmer in a way... because we can make different ROM files as usual, using maybe a VRAM space to store player's data between the switching phase. PEV: well you have to figure that the bakery is using the same stuff, so why is the filling more expensive? Judy: last time we checked which was about 2 summers ago was 9 dollars PEV: (argh, darn chair) LucMiron: @Daniel: The way Batari designed his PCB solution, it will be quite flexible. PEV: HOLY SMOKES! Judy: don't have a clue PEV: that's a lot! rich-c: I believe tehre are a number of makers of varying levels of conscience and greed Judy: that is what we thought Daniel: having a fixed 16K will be more for making a single rom file and then a bunch of data banks to use PEV: I haven't a clue what a jar costs here, haven't looked recently LucMiron: @Daniel: Yeah, that's the configuration I would like to use for my planned CV version of Boxxle. rich-c: if they make it with a rum base and exotic fruits, it might be less than you'd pay for the ingredients alone Daniel: a rom file at 16K max, and data in the upper banks PEV: I don't even know who produces it, although my guess would be EB Smith Judy: don't know rich-c: yes, they are likely to have the Canadian licence, likely from Crosse and Blackwell Daniel: How big the EEPROM will be supported? 512KB? PEV: guess I'll appreciate my tarts more this year : ) Judy: yes, you should LucMiron: @Daniel: From what I've been told, supported EEPROM sizes will range from 128 bytes to 8K. Daniel: ??? PEV: why would they licence C & B when they can make their own? rich-c: that sounds very small, Luc LucMiron: Actually, an 8K EEPROM is very large, Rich. PEV: after all they do other pie fillings along with their jams rich-c: why do they make Lea & Perrins under licence - and sell it as L&P? Daniel: Luc, 8K is the size of Q*Bert Daniel: GhsotBlaster is 32K LucMiron: EEPROMs are used for savegames. Judy: good question, Rich LucMiron: Can you imagine the amount of data I could save in 8K? Daniel: no... EEPROM is an EPROM that can be erased only by UV LucMiron: Nope. It's an EPROM with input/utput capabilities. LucMiron: utput=output rich-c: I think you two have a misunderstanding, Luc - and Daniel sounds closer to the little I know PEV: on a totally different train of thought, having the desk in the LR and the computer on the desk is nice Daniel: "stands for Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory and is a type of non-volatile memory used in computers and other electronic devices to store small amounts of data that must be saved when power is removed" LucMiron: EPROMs are the erasable-by-UV kind, from what I know. PEV: I'm making fewer typing mistakes PEV: but we've discovered the floors are far from level PEV: mostly by spending all our time rolling away from the desk! rich-c: no, EPROMs once written cannot be changed (re-written) Judy: what does that have to do with making less mistakes? BobS: the new locatin is great, the floors can be shimmed with a folded up piece of paper here and there LucMiron: PROMs cannot be rewritten, EPROMs can. PEV: I can't shim the chair Bob, it's on wheels : ) BobS: ahso. take off the wheels PEV: I'm in proper typing position over the keyboard Judy BobS: maybe if you don't lean back..................... Judy: he always has an answer though Judy: got ya PEV: I don't have to reach awkwardly for some things the way I do when I'm on my little folding table rich-c: get bungee cords and tether it in place BobS: oh I have LOTS of answers, some for questions yo haven' even thunk up yet PEV: can type faster too BobS: great idea!!!!!! and gives you a slightly bouncy feeling also PEV: I guess we'll have to get one of those mats for rolling chairs on carpets Daniel: Ok, so I'll ask my question in another way... what is the ROM size possible in the PCB rich-c: just don't forget they're there when you get up LucMiron: Okay, now I really gotta go do the dishes. Hopefully I'll drop by next week (and we'll have some news from Guy Foster about Adamcon 2010!) rich-c: look for you, Luc - Merry Christmas PEV: Merry Christmas Luc! LucMiron: ROM size can be 8K, 16K, 32K, or 64K. Judy: bye again and have a Merry Christma Daniel: C'est trop petit pour du multicart. Joyeuses fetes! LucMiron: Merry Christmas to you all!
LucMiron left chat session PEV: wonder if I could convince Russell to get out the card table for me . . . Daniel: Yes, the EE is for being erasable with electricity... but why using this instead of a flash memory ? rich-c: as a place to pput your laptopo? Daniel: anyway PEV: no, to sort out our ornaments PEV: just for the day PEV: holy smokes Dad, I didn't realized just how much stuff we had for goodwill till we got there on Sunday Daniel: I still have things to do before going to sleep. I'll have to leave soon. rich-c: ah, I keep the laptop on the computer desk rich-c: it can be quite a shock, can't it? PEV: well the little folding table is great if I'm sitting on the couch, but I have to be just the right position on the couch to reach the computer properly rich-c: yes, you surely keep active, Daniel PEV: Doesn't make as much difference if I'm surfing or on FB, but a lot of typing is much easier at the desk rich-c: yes, I put the desktop keyboard on top of the laptop BobS: slides around doesn't it? rich-c: oddly enough, no Judy: I just put the laptop on the foot stool and it works great BobS: hmmmm rich-c: and lets me use one desk for both computers BobS: i just put it on my lap rich-c: with my back, footstolls are out, and lap is dicey BobS: get positioned jsut right so my elbows don't hit the arms of the chair PEV: one of the things that we discovered in the process of moving the couch is what went sproing on me a few weeks ago rich-c: tell us teh worst Daniel: well, I knew last week that I'll be busy the day of the chat today PEV: unfortunately, it's the support bar for the seating PEV: doesn't affect the bed portion at all PEV: but my side is slowly sinking rich-c: now that's a discovery you really need PEV: well the couch is 15 years old and has been used daily so I suppose it's entitled rich-c: I have a jackstand I'm not using at teh moment, just don't try to moe the couch when using it rich-c: a good upholsterer can fix it, but may not be economic PEV: guess it's something peculiar to sofa beds PEV: unless they have a good blowtorch, it ain't getting fixed rich-c: needs re-welding? Daniel: How does the "zoo keeper" game on Facebook works? it looks like I was subscribed to this game? and 3 persons did gave me animals for that. I'm pretty sure I've never subscribed to this game in the first place. PEV: it's a piece of tubular steel, bent at 90 degrees at the corners, running from the frame on the left to the frame on the right PEV: it broke at the bend rich-c: Pamela is your expert on that BobS: facebook...........sounds familiar Judy: sounds serious PEV: Daniel if you don't want the app, go into your settings, scroll down to applications, and click the X beside Zoo Keeper - it should remove the app from your page rich-c: possibly it could be sleeved and scewed/rivetted in place, but that bend makes for problems PEV: I'm pretty sure it's terminal Judy PEV: yes, we tried splinting it Judy: sounds like it PEV: worked for about 4 hours, then SPROING again rich-c: that doesn't make for an optimistic prognosis, does it? PEV: well we were leaning towards needing a new one soon anyway - I've worn out the upholstery in a couple of areas rich-c: btw, for those interested, I may have a website next year BobS: cool PEV: what prompted that Dad? BobS: just for Clee.com ????? or to well your ADAM sutff????? BobS: stuff rich-c: to sort-of replace my favourite forum, which is being trolled to oblivion PEV: Carnuts? rich-c: the URL will be carnuts.ca rich-c: whether there will be an Adam page eve, I do not know rich-c: yes, Pam, there are major problems and many users have left PEV: that's too bad Dad Daniel: Well, I'll keep it now... nice to get gifts from others. rich-c: unfortunately the owner made some bad decisions and now the whole thing has blown up in our faces rich-c: I am hoping to save enough pieces - and people - to be worthwhile BobS: better get on it then Ricahrd. the sooner the better rich-c: I have ordered the url, the location, and all - John at Tamco will be the host rich-c: I just have to learn how to run teh thing, then get the trade PEV: I suspect if you put the word out to your buddies, they'll help pass it on to the right people PEV: enuf bandwidth? rich-c: oh I plan to, I will tell the carnuts.us guys of course, [plus as many of those who have left as I can find rich-c: Jphn says no limits on bandwidth, storage or transfers rich-c: I won't use much anyway - it isn't a porn site, after all! PEV: good PEV: as long as it isn't too graphics intensive, you'll be okay rich-c: he will also do fairly regular backups and help me with making it go PEV: Ireferred someone to him recently PEV: hope she goes over to him rich-c: hopw he can take her - not sure how close he is to capacity rich-c: still, I'm sure if he gets squeszed, he'll increase it PEV: I can't see him turning down business BobS: would not think so BobS: that is how a business grows rich-c: our snow crea rich-c: our snow clearance crew just did - twice PEV: which reminds me, still need to get my mailbox fixed rich-c: at Tamco? PEV: what, clear or grow? BobS: or at the building PEV: yes BobS: yes what BobS: be specific girl !!!!! PEV: at Tamco PEV: happy? BobS: yes ma'am PEV: L PEV: OL rich-c: have you really investigated that program (horde?) it will filter, allow replies, do all sorts of neat things PEV: yes but I find it somewhat awkward to use rich-c: your mother is upset because I use it in preference to Mailwasher now PEV: maybe if I had a different PW it would be better rich-c: it does take a bit of learning but it's worth it PEV: still using the original rich-c: you have the lasst free edition of Mailwasher I think PEV: and I can't for the life of me memorize it, which means I have to look it up every time I want to go into it rich-c: I'm not enchanted with the Horde filter, but Mailwasher makes it look good rich-c: sorry, PW? what's that? Guy B.: Well folks. Have a lot to do tomorrow. Merry Christmas to all and see you all next week PEV: password rich-c: merry charistmas to you Guy, see you next week PEV: good night Guy, Merry Christmas! BobS: MC Guy Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session Judy: bye Guy have a MERRY CHRISTMAS rich-c: you can set your own much simpler password with teh mail progam, Pam - ask me Friday Daniel: me too ... I must go now! merry xmas to you all! PEV: good night Daniel - Joyeux Noel! rich-c: joyeuses fetes a toi, Daniel - a la prochaine! Daniel: and an happy new year (in case I miss the next chat session) Daniel: bye PEV: you won't : ) BobS: nite Daniel
Daniel left chat session BobS: MERRY CHRISTMAS Judy: I am signing off now so have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year PEV: Merry Christmas Judy, to you and all the family rich-c: the same to you, Judy, and do enjoy your cruises! Judy: will do PEV: Happy New Year, and have a wonderful vacation Judy: thanks night all
Judy left chat session PEV: give Doug and Meeka a hug for us PEV: you too Bob PEV: Bob when are you back? rich-c: anyway, Pam, the password you got with your Tamco subscritpion is only necessary for certain purposes BobS: nite rich-c: and using Horde on your mailbos is not among them BobS: will try to hit a Mickey D next week and sign on for awhile onthe road to Florida rich-c: nite Bob, good holiday and good trip, see you mid-January PEV: safe trip Bob BobS: MC & HNY
BobS left chat session PEV: can't wait to hear from you PEV: oops rich-c: unless of course you can remember Wednesday nights on shipboard! PEV: and if they have wireless on ship rich-c: looks like he's gone. PEV: yup PEV: I think that's one of the first things I'd check PEV: whether there's wireless internet aboard rich-c: he did say something last week about their having a fair amount on net access on shipboard at reasonable rates PEV: guess I'm a little too connected for my own good rich-c: well, Bob isn't quite as addicted to the 'net as you and I PEV: it's that darn FB I tell you PEV: I have a fish hook in my mouth where it's concerned rich-c: I gatehr you are not the only one PEV: not by a long shot : ) rich-c: anyway, why don't you give Daniel one of your elephants? PEV: interestingly I'm the tech addict around here PEV: the app doesn't work that way rich-c: taking after your mother PEV: or should I say, apps PEV: Russell could care less as long as he can play his computer games rich-c: well, Adam convinced me the only way I can make a computer work is learn to do it myself PEV: I think what I like is the social aspect PEV: allows me to stay connected with everyone rich-c: I would rather not re-install Windows or build web pages, but these things can become necessities PEV: LOL PEV: sorry Daddy, but I really think you offended some major computer god rich-c: wish it were that funny - but at least it lets me feel vaguely useful PEV: you know I've used XP for years now and never once have I had a problem with it PEV: so I'm afraid it's back to the computer god theory rich-c: well, you never had Microsoft send you a piece of malware, either PEV: yes, but I'm talking Speedy, Somerville, Marsh and home rich-c: although I suppose that fits your theiry too... PEV: : ) PEV: anyway Papa think I'd better poof rich-c: yes, but in an office setting, with networks and IT departments, you can't USE the computers anyway PEV: only half a day of work tomorrow but I still have to be there at the same time rich-c: but youre right - time for teh zzzz's PEV: and I have a lot of work when I get home rich-c: OK, keep us posted on your Friday schedule PEV: well, couldn't use them at Somerville, anyway . . . PEV: I'll let you know once I've spoken to Lindsay and Barbara PEV: hark, the husband returns rich-c: OK, see what works out. Goodnight, then. PEV: night Daddy PEV: TTY tomorrow rich-c: night duaghter PEV: kerpoof
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