Windows Update: Hello Rich, I'm terminating a Windows Update. I'll be back later. -Daniel
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changed username to Meeka rich-c: OK. it won't take long - it'd just for IE7 rich-c: hi Meeka Meeka: hi rich-c: Daniel was here but doing the Windows Update, so he has to reboot Meeka: ahhh rich-c: I have it downloaded but I'll install and reboot later
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changed username to Guy B. rich-c: hello Guy Guy B.: Greetings!!!! Guy B.: Got really warm here today. Hit 78 degrees BobS: hi guy BobS: we hit 77 rich-c: yes, we're supposed to get that Friday - looking forward to it BobS: 80 for tomorrow Guy B.: Yep, same here. Meeka: hi guy rich-c: yep, and when you two finish with it, it'sd coming our way rich-c: unfortunately it will be cold spring weather after Guy B.: I have a new computer coming. It will be a former computer from work. Dell Optiplex 280 Meeka: thats cool guy rich-c: don't know the Dell models - assume it's an Intel machine Guy B.: And work is exploring about upgrading us to Windows 7 Guy B.: It is. rich-c: what are you running now at work? Guy B.: Win Xp Pro Guy B.: And they are planning to install Office 2007 sometime this summer rich-c: that's going to be a major effort then, you can't install 7 over XP Pro, you have to wipe the disc and start over Meeka: doug says they dont like that model at work, they keep blowing the caps on the board rich-c: the Optiplex you mean? Guy B.: Yes, they know about that. What they are doing is randomly selecting some of us to see if our applications will work with the new system Meeka: yup Guy B.: I think that's why they started replacing our PC's with new one's the past year rich-c: the answer is more than you think but the applied geekery need to do it is challenging rich-c: yes, Win7 has much higher demands than even Vista - power hasd its price and it's high
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changed username to Judy Justin: Hola Rich, Meeka, everyone else. Meeka: hi mom rich-c: if there's anybody here, you aren't late ; - ) Justin: What are we gabbing about? Judy: Hi, everyone Justin: Hi Judy, feeling better? BobS: hi Justin Judy: yes, been a better week rich-c: Guy's work is retiring some computers so he grabbed one for himself Guy B.: Hi Judy and Justin BobS: Guy is gonna get a hand me down from work BobS: REtired?????? Justin: Hey Bob. BobS: more than tired????????????? Guy B.: Be the third one I had. The other two Dells have been retired Justin: Sent PayPal earlier today Bob. BobS: yup got notification Justin: okee dokee Meeka: we have a llot of hand-me-downs round here too Guy B.: I'll be back, Have almost 30 e-mails that I have to check BobS: when they retire, do you give them a proverbial pasture to graze in???????????????????? rich-c: I'll bet your basement looks like my basement - computer peoples' homes tend to get cluttered Meeka: yup.....thats what the basement is for...right :-P BobS: um yes rich-c: hope you can convince Frances of that, Meeka Meeka: lol, your stuff, your wife, your problem.....sory rich rich-c: although actually since we brought home all the trailer stuff and parked it there, she can't complain Judy: we really have way too much stuff in the basement Meeka: we do too, ubt lord forbid we part with it as we will need it right after we do rich-c: my latest is ten boxes of Adams and parts from a minister in Saskatchewan rich-c: Doug is getting you well trained, Meeka ; - ) Justin: Rich, how recently were those Adams being used? Justin: Blown away to hear that you have 10! Judy: so much for cutting down on your Adam stuff, Rich BobS: how much have you unpacked yet? rich-c: have no idea - fairly recentl;y, I'd guess - why? Meeka: well, sort of, he placates me with cool toys to play with and decent equipment of my own to use Justin: Just wondering what they were used for. rich-c: he was an Adam addict, and couldn't bear to send them to the landfill - by the way 10 boxes not 10 Adams Justin: ah Justin: Thought maybe they were employed at some RETRO trade school or something. rich-c: he wznted to send them to me, I told him he was nuts, but he pleaded so hard I said OK Meeka: the latest was a second flatpanel for muy big puter Judy: nice rich-c: I'm not sure I want a flat panel - love the convenience but a CRT renders colours better Meeka: yup Meeka: makes editing things easier Meeka: mine is just as good Justin: You folks do video editing? Judy: what are you editing? rich-c: really? I've never noticed that between my CRT and laptops Meeka: havent done much video justin, mostly photos Justin: oh ok Meeka Justin: Noisy bunch rich-c: wonder where Daniel's got to? he was doing an update to Windows but should be back by now Meeka: dont know rich-c: and justin, you will find every once in a while the board acts up and bootsd some or all of us BobS: heck didn't even see him BobS: true especially you richard BobS: ;-) Judy: and last week Pam rich-c: oh I have not had that much trouble of late - I think it was Pam had the last bad night
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changed username to Daniel Bienvenu Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Again Meeka: hi daniel Judy: there he is now, Hi, Daniel Justin: i see rich-c: we weree just wondering where you got to, Daniel Daniel Bienvenu: I was here at 9pm, but I needed to install an update for Windows apparently rich-c: did you have something more than yesterday's update to IE7? Judy: we had a beautiful day today, it was warmer here than in Key West Justin: The latest wallpapers are at http://www.boxing4free.com/mystuff/wallpapers.zip Justin: If you have any ideas you can throw my way, for a desktop wallpaper, lemme know. rich-c: sorry, I don't use wallpaper, and my friends prefer cars, usually racers rich-c: Frances has been tempted on occasion but what turns her on is fractals Daniel Bienvenu: colecovision, coleco adam, atari, and commodore 64... My childhood in a few pictures Justin: Well, thats what my wallpapers are about! Retro computing/gaming. But I need some more details. Justin: I was trying to have one with the SmartBASIC screen and top of the keyboard, but that didn't work out too well. I suck a taking photos. Daniel Bienvenu: My brother had a ColecoVision, an Atari 2600, and later a Commodore 64. I had a Commodore Vic-20 and a Commodore 64 later. My friend by then had a Coleco Adam and NES. Justin: I have a couple in that collection with the Commodore 64 screen and top of the keyboard. vic-20 came before 64, yes? rich-c: that reminds me, Daniel - do you have an Adam yet, and do you need one? Justin: Funny, I have the NES sitting on top of my Adam, to my left. Daniel Bienvenu: I've one that works, but not the disk drive. I've one like a PC tower that works fine too... and I think I still have an expansion module Coleco Adam that works. rich-c: I wonder if I still have the Vic20 - have to do some basement archaeology Daniel Bienvenu: My original Vic-20 is dead Daniel Bienvenu: I did program on it during 10 years or more... it was too much for the computer. rich-c: it wasn't the greatest powerhouse around rich-c: I have never used the one I got Daniel Bienvenu: After booting, the screen turned suddently black and the letters on screen started to wave, gradually collapsing, difficult to describe. So, it was the end for it. Daniel Bienvenu: A friend of mine gave me another one, 10 years later, I think I still have it, never tried it yet. rich-c: that sounds like one of the very early prank malware Daniel Bienvenu: not it was simply the vic-20 dying, not a prank at all. Meeka: mom........i found the link i was looking for the other night Meeka: http://www.allcrafts.net/f.php?url=web.archive.org/web/20070504161441/http://www.angelfire.com/folk/celtwich/PineFan.html rich-c: did the Vic-20 have the Basic program built in, on a ROM? Daniel Bienvenu: I had the Commodore 64 a month later to replace the Commodore Vic-20. I was hesitating between Commodore 64 and Amiga 500. Daniel Bienvenu: Vic-20 is a 64K machine, no bank swicthing, with BASIC builtin. Daniel Bienvenu: The memory space for RAM was around 4K rich-c: like Adam when you are running SmartLogo Daniel Bienvenu: C=64 is a 64K machine, but it used bank switching, almost like Coleco Adam, so it was able to give a lot more RAM space. Daniel Bienvenu: Vic-20, low resolution and no sprites. C=64, hi-resolution and sprites. rich-c: yes, about all you can say for the Vic-20 is it was a nice toy for its time Daniel Bienvenu: I did program a lot with it. Still remember a bunch of tricks, like POKEs and PEEKs to change to graphic mode and make sounds. Judy: thank-you, Meeka have it saved will have to look at it latter but looks exactly like what I had in mind Judy: finished another one of the little ones that I started Sat Meeka: cool Daniel Bienvenu: and the users manual that came with it was showing a keyboard with a face on it, with legs and arms, at almost every 2 pages. Judy: it is a cute little doily Meeka: it should be any easy pattern to do if I remember right Judy: good for scraps of crochet cotton, takes very little Meeka: yup Judy: good that is what I like, easy Daniel Bienvenu: @Justin : How did you manage to draw the ColecoVision logo like this? It looks like you did redraw it with nice lines and curves (like a graphics made with vectors). Daniel Bienvenu: test... rich-c: we're here, Daniel, just quiet rich-c: giving Justin a chance to answer you rich-c: I am waiting to hear from a taxi driver Justin: sorry Justin: stepped away, gonna read what you typed rich-c: when I got in the cab Monday, I didn't know my cellphone fell out of my pocket BobS: BUMMER DUDE Judy: did you call the cel and see who would answer it? rich-c: he found it this morning and will bring it by when he has a call up our way Justin: Well, I got my hands on a pdf file of the Colecovision logo. Then I resized the C & V, and well, viola! Justin: Also got my hands on the Adam logo as well. rich-c: I always leave my phone turned off - lying on the cab seat it wouldn't ring Guy B.: Ok Back Guy B.: Hi Daniel Judy: that would be no help then Justin: I was having a difficult time matching the SYSTEM with the Colecovision, so I found what ever was the closest. Forgot the font name. Daniel Bienvenu: Hello Guy Judy: glad he found it then rich-c: fortunately when he found it this morning he turned it on to see who owned it - but no I D rich-c: but then I phoned and we connected Justin: I would like to make one with the Colecovision game system but I cannot find a high quality photo of it. Daniel Bienvenu: More than 5 years ago, I did a font for Windows based on ColecoVision logo. It did works well... until a certain Windows Update that did screw up everything and make the file impossible to use, for no real reason. Many people asked me if the file was still available, but it was useless. rich-c: Dale found a font very close to the Adam one - maybe if he comes on later we can ask Judy: don't you have any numbers saved in your contacts? Daniel Bienvenu: Spend a week and $100 on a font editor software to do that. Justin: Dammit Daniel! Not yelling at you, just damning! Justin: That would be a nice font to have. rich-c: no, Judy, my phone is strictly a lifeliner, for dire emergencies only Justin: Be great in my video editing projectss. Daniel Bienvenu: video editing project? rich-c: in fact it was unusual for me to phone for a cab instead of having the receptioist do it Judy: I see Judy: I take it you had a doctor appointment? Justin: not anything specific, but I may do a retro computing one in the future. Just for sh-ts & giggles. BobS: that is what AL cellphones are rich-c: yes, then he wanted me to have an x-ray so I had to phone from the lab Judy: everything okay? rich-c: no, I ma having a very nasty bout of a-fib, for the second week in a row - first one faded away Daniel Bienvenu: I did phone to a place where they do laser printing. I need to do a banner for the Adamcon as you may know. Well, I saw that they also do t-shirts... but they can't promise anything and I need to bring my own t-shirts for the big ones. Daniel Bienvenu: I didn't realized before that bigger is the size, more it cost... 36"x24" poster is $30 to print. Judy: that is not good, Rich rich-c: no, we have started juggling medications to see what can be accomplished rich-c: I take so many pills every day I rattle when I walk Justin: Hmm, retro computing shirts... Wonder if they're out there. Daniel Bienvenu: And, printing on white t-shirts seems to be the best solution... otherwise it's like $6 more per t-shirt... because of the white ink I suppose. rich-c: I have an almost complete set of t-shirts from every Adamcon except the first Daniel Bienvenu: Some guys are selling already t-shirts with Atari and ColecoVision logos on them. I think they are made by fans, not by people who own the rights to exploit these names. BobS: ya knnow Richard, you would be better off if you got into permanent A fib like me rich-c: you're likely right, Daniel, so they will be made to stop to protect the copyright BobS: then you ajust to it and stay that way Daniel Bienvenu: The laser printing way cost about $10 per white t-shirt, and it's colorful... not only a single color like serigraphy methods. Justin: I'll take what I can get. Question, since Colecovision went bye-bye, are all their properties public domain? rich-c: no, they belong to whoever bought the bankrupt estate Daniel Bienvenu: The names Coleco and ColecoVision are property of Hasbro, and a company named River West Brand did bought the names to exploit them. Judy: it is 10 plus the price of the t--shirt or just 10 dollars rich-c: I am in permanent, Bob, it's just that it's busted out of control last two weekends Justin: Hasbro... hmm... that's right, someone made a hand held Coleco game system a few years back, must have been Hasbro. Justin: River West Brand owns the Coleco names now? Not Hasbro? rich-c: yes, and teh rights to teh cartridge games went back to the creators, or were sold to third parties Daniel Bienvenu: Back in the late 80s, Coleco Industries was bought by Hasbro and a couple of other companies, which I think included Telegames. also, Hasbro splited in two, with Hasbro on one part and Hasbro entertainment on the other part. And Hasbro Entertainment did own Atari copyrights... making the same company owning the 2 big names in competition of the early 80s rich-c: they have gone through a lot of hands in 20 years, Justin Daniel Bienvenu: Hasbro Entertainment became Atari now Daniel Bienvenu: Or something like that Justin: I can see that Rich. Daniel is doing a good job explaining. Daniel Bienvenu: Ok, I find it back. Infogramm Entertainment bought Hasbro, and got Atari rights. Justin: This is fascinating Daniel. Daniel Bienvenu: Now I go tit right rich-c: well, Daniel and Neil are our authorities on CV history, Judy Justin: Ah, they're the go to guys for info eh? Justin: Cause I am full of questions. Daniel Bienvenu: I'm not full of answers rich-c: you can always just post them on the Adam mailing list - it has been very active lately Justin: Adam mailing list..? What's that? rich-c: in fact Joe Blenkle even managed to get a response out of Jim Walters - thought he had given up on us years ago
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Guy B. confirmed ban BobS: the list hs been jumpin a little lately with information rich-c: eager young man, but not long on patience Daniel Bienvenu: gone too fast. I did wanted to tell him that I don't know why it was Mattel who got the rights on Coleco and ColecoVision names during all that time after the backrupty, because Hasbro did bought almost all the coleco Industries by themself. rich-c: he'll be back next week, Daniel, so patience till then Meeka: well, i am off too, got a few things to do tonight before bed rich-c: unless he signs up for the mailing list first, in which case we will hear sooner, no doubt BobS: did Mattel buy the Cabbage Patch line and name????? Daniel Bienvenu: That's why buying Hasbro did make Infogramm owning coleco and Atari in a single company. Judy: night Meeka see you this week-end Meeka: yup Daniel Bienvenu: Mattel did dolls yes
Meeka left chat session rich-c: night Meeka BobS: so, is the cabbie gonna give ya back your cell phone????? rich-c: he is supposed to bring it by when he has a call in this area rich-c: this being Passover, I don't think many taxis will be called here Daniel Bienvenu: I did look everywhere and I've no evidence that anyone still have rights on the coleco bios. Telegames don't have the rights of it, and it seems to be lost inside hasbro, now atari. rich-c: unless there is money to be made from it the owner wont assert the rights anyway Daniel Bienvenu: Telegames got the Coleco games Daniel Bienvenu: but not the bios Daniel Bienvenu: Hasbro bought almost all the coleco industries rich-c: by now the patents may well have expired anyway - there may have been no reason to renew them Daniel Bienvenu: Mattel got the brand names Coleco and ColecoVision, and also head-to-head BobS: very true......about 25 yrs is the average......then they are for sure PD BobS: for a while the roms that surfaced onthe internet got pulled, but now there are multiple sites freely advertising them and free for downloading Daniel Bienvenu: 25 years... than means all the software I did use back then is now public domain, like logo, basic, and a lot of games... but it looks like companies wtill own the brand names and still fight for them. Like I can't use the wrd breakout. Daniel Bienvenu: I should say "Breakout trade mark by Atari"
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Judy: not something I would like to repeat Daniel Bienvenu: I think the brands are still defendable by the law, even if some don't really care anymore... but the software made back then, I guess people decided it's public domain long time ago now Pamela: Friday in Wasaga with Cynthia, Saturday haircuts and dinner with Em and Criss, and dinner here Sunday with Barbara and Lindsay Pamela: not to mention its kookoo nutso at work rich-c: oh, will the insurance do the repair? rich-c: I keep forgetting it's Easter weekend Pamela: it snuck up on me BobS: I think that is the case Daniel.......games pd, or not drawing attention, but DON'T use the trademark Judy: they do not want to so gave us a price for them to take it away and another for us to keep the car Pamela: we'll get sprung early tomorrow and I still have stuff to do rich-c: yes, I think trademarks last longer than patents, don't they? Daniel Bienvenu: it's April fool day tomorrow... what should I do? Pamela: how much to repair? rich-c: Daniel, ignore it and it will go away Pamela: nothing Daniel - just smile and look mysterios : ) Judy: they don't want to repair, says is 75% of the cost of the car BobS: trademarks are worth re-patenting rich-c: too bad, what are they writing insurance for, anyway BobS: IF they use all new parts, the cost gets into the 75% rule for totaling the car rich-c: they should pay up to 100% if necessary - comment Pam? Judy: but Bob got the thing running and took ti to a few places to see what they would give us for it or repair cost Pamela: uh uh BobS: but if used parts like daashboard are available, price goes down Judy: but their 100% won't replace it a couple of thousand short BobS: had it to a registered mechanic today, and he flles the wiring harness is salvageable and a used dash and ducting and windshield woudl do well and a lot cheaper rich-c: thee wiring harness is the killer because it's so hard to warrant and trouble if it doesn't work BobS: first offer from the ins company is too low...................haven't gotten back to them yet BobS: everything works except the headlight auto sensor, which burned up Judy: and they say there are many different harnesses for the same car rich-c: Pam, you live with Canadian rules, but do you know anything on this? Pamela: no, i've been out of the game too long Judy: Mandy is our insurance agent so she should help us some rich-c: who are you insured with, Bob? Pamela: well, that helps! Judy: EMC BobS: EMC..............and I don't remember what it stands for rich-c: small, local outfit? Pamela: not a name i recognize either BobS: no, large outfit BobS: ????......Manufacturers Comapnay BobS: or some such thing Judy: after the 10th of April we are changing insurance companies because they are pulling out of Michigan rich-c: Equitable? Daniel Bienvenu: Nest year, Quebec will instore fees for going to the hospital .. I don't fully understand but the reason seems to be that some people exploited the public system so much that makes the entire health system slowing down more and more. So, as a disuasive action, small fees will be charged to the person who enters the hospital... the story don't tell if it's for every cases or just for those who like to visit hospitals. rich-c: ah, they won't be answerable to your state regulator so they figure they can shaft you Judy: they were supposedly not charging enough and we have a freeze on rates so they can't raise them Judy: was only the first offer we haven't got back to them yet rich-c: same old song and dance - look at their financial statement for the year for the truth Daniel Bienvenu: and taxes raising of course Judy: they are staying with businesses but pulling out of personal lines rich-c: Daniel - there is a limit what Quebec can do, because the federal legislation governs health care Judy: we have had them for a while now Pamela: I've been with State Farm since I was first insured and they're pretty good rich-c: but face it, with pubblic services like anything else, you want them you have to pay for them rich-c: Quebec has a lot of really neat high class public services - but they do cost Pamela: well lets hope we don't have to try them out! rich-c: reminds me I have to nag my insurance company about teh trailer - I should have had word by now Pamela: put in on your to-do list Papa Judy: they take their time and you are pretty much at their mersy Daniel Bienvenu: I hope the poster will be ready in April< Pamela: Dad's pretty good at handling them Judy rich-c: well since my insurance is a group policy I can get teh group after them if the try to play games Judy: that is good BobS: well, hopefully we can work wsomthign out Daniel Bienvenu: Talk to you all... next week. I need to go already. Pamela: do you really want to keep the Marquis on the road? rich-c: bonsoir, Daniel - a la prochaine! Daniel Bienvenu: bye, good night, take care! BobS: well yes and no
Daniel Bienvenu left chat session Pamela: all right Daniel. Good news about the t-shirts and the poster BobS: what's with the trialer Judy: me, no Bob not sure BobS: ???? Pamela: wow that was quick rich-c: I want to see if they will buy it in or repair it BobS: think the repari option is probasbly off the table rich-c: problem is their appraiser knows squat about trailers Pamela: get your own estimates Dad Judy: yes, must have been in a hurry BobS: but the damage probably added up, no???? rich-c: might be cheaper than buying it in - though frankly if they're smart they could make a profit on it rich-c: it has far more desirable used pieces than the unit as a whole is worth BobS: thouble is, you have to get someone to go OUT and give an estimate rich-c: I can't move it for an estimate, Pam - my drawbar was stolen, remember? BobS: that is the case with the car...but the yards don't want to pay for it rich-c: there's only one repair shop left for 50 miles around and they charge $250 to come BobS: a car worth $8000-8500 with a bad dashboard, and everything else perfect, and I can only get $1000 at a parts yard????? ridiculous rich-c: that what your insurer is trying to tell you? Pamela: agreed Bob Judy: they say the yards will only give them $800 BobS: the idea of bringing the trailer for estimates is knida OFF the table....................... rich-c: that'ds the message I got, bob BobS: have the adjusters gone out yet, or don't you know Guy B.: Well folks. I'm going to go. Will see you all next week BobS: when did you have to get it out of the storage yard?// Pamela: gnite Guy rich-c: the Blue Book puts it as worth about $1450 US BobS: nite Guy rich-c: night Guy Judy: night Guy Pamela: end of April, Bob Guy B.: Poof
Guy B. left chat session BobS: got 30 dasy then BobS: or days BobS: s the case may be rich-c: the appraiser has been out, he has a truck camper but knows nothing about trailers Judy: our insurance ends on the 10th of April so we will have to make a decission by then rich-c: I'm waiting to hear from the adjuster - will nag them tonight or tomorrow BobS: go for it Pamela: is Mandy with the insurer or is she with a broker? rich-c: told him $1250 for the trailer and $250 for the drawbar and we have a deal BobS: she is the agent BobS: go fit it Richard BobS: for Judy: she works for the insurance agency that handles several different companies BobS: all they can say, geez, we'd rather fix it rich-c: I plan to go for it and offer a hard time if I don't get it - it's a vry good deal Pamela: so she can help you shop around Judy: yes, she already gave some compairables so that sould help our cause rich-c: if they pay to fix it I can sell it almost overnight for $1500 on Kijiji or Craigslist BobS: we already have anew inssurance company lined up Pamela: good : ) rich-c: can't suggest mine, they don't sell in the US BobS: they don't know about us.....shhh Pamela: I won't tell : ) BobS: ok BobS: keep it hush hush Judy: well, need to go to bed, was out working in the yard today and am beat BobS: had car ifxed in Feb......bashed in grill and bnged up rubber front bumper Pamela: yes it was a long day on this end too rich-c: I'm also used up - goodnight, Judy BobS: us too Richard. nite BobS: nite Pamela rich-c: ...and Pamela BobS: have agood week rich-c: and Robert Pamela: gnite Bob Pamela: g'nite Judy BobS: see ya next Wed
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